Christians, How important is a U.S. President's Stance on Abortion?
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Yes, it is important, The U.S. Supreme Justices when they retire or leave or die are apponted by the President, how do you think John Roberts and Samuel Alito became Supreme Court Justices?\nYes , the president does have power in this area when it involves the appointment of Supreme court justices
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No------ Christians today must remain neutral and not get involved with politics in any way, shape or form. We must not put our trust in human rulers.(Psalms 146:3) \nIf we vote for any imperfect human, then we are showing disloyalty to our King, who now reigns in heaven. Our allegiance is to our righteous King, and his Father's heavenly government only. The Bible says that man was not meant to rule over man. ( Ecclesiastes 8:9 )\nWe must obey the laws of governments as long as they do not conflict with God's laws. We maintain the same position as Jesus' apostles: "But Peter and the apostles answered and said, We must obey God rather than men." (Acts 5:29)\nHuman governments will soon be put out of existance and will be replaced by God's government which will rule over the entire earth. When you say the Lord's prayer and ask for God's Kingdom to come, that is what you are praying for. \nThe new government will last forever as seen at Daniel 2:44--"\n"And in the days of these kings(current human rulers) the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever."\nAs long as governments condone war and make false promises they cannot hope to acheive, we will never see peace or security. Only God's government will make that happen. (PSALM 37:9-11)   \nChristians should not put their trust or confidence in political governments or rulers that God will soon overthrow. We need to look to God's Kingdom as the only hope for all mankind.
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Here again It's my body and my choice. If my religion decrees that I don't have an abortion and I am a religious person then whom is anybody to tell me that I should have an abortion? As for the men they should have a voice in the subject matter when they can carry a baby for nine months. Then go into labor for it. \nYou know the worst that can happen to a man if the woman decides to have a baby and keep it is they have to support it for the next 18 years.\nWith the woman she has to make a moral decision rather or not to have the baby. IF she decides to have it and keep it. Then she has to raise it and support it too. Just cause daddy gives some money doesn't mean it's covering all the expense. \nSo until you can sac rife as much as a woman does then forgot having a voice.
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He didnt. I dont vote.\n\nWe are to pray for our leaders. The bible tells us to do that. We are also supposed to follow the laws (like not speeding etc) unless the Laws go against God.\n \nAs Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, the president is explicitly charged with the duty of maintaining the military, defending our borders and preserving national interests through the use of violence if necessary or expedient. If I, as a follower of Christ, could not conscientiously serve in that role, then how can I in good conscience cast my support for someone else to do that in my stead? I am nonresistant.\n \nIn the past, members of the Anabaptist tradition have paid a very high price for their view —loss of property, forced emigration, imprisonment, and even martyrdom have all been a part of our collective story.\n\nVoting, after all, is not just a “right.” It is also a “rite”—a ritual of identity and loyalty binding the individual to the nation. Abstaining from elections signal that our first loyalty is to the worldwide fellowship of Christian believers, not to the nation-state.\n Jesus is my basis. He said follow me and enter the kingdom of heaven. He made no mention of service to another government. He also said to swear not. We are taught to say yes or no.\n\nWhen we as strangers and pilgrims are hindered by the laws of the land we are in, we submit without complaint or leave.\n\nThe gospel has been lived and preached in every land with persecution.\n\nWhen we live by his law and bless our rulers and enemies we are following his example even when it gets us imprisoned or killed.\n\nJerusalem in the days of King Solomon was a lot like America today with its "FREEDOM OF RELIGION" and BUSINESS,and like America and Europe today it was one big brothel.\n\nIt doesn't matter who is elected, the winner will not defend and preach the gospel of Jesus Christ even if he or she goes to church..\n\nBeing born in the United States I have many advantages, mainly that I can peacefully descent but that day is passing quickly as Satans world government takes over.\n \nChristian allegiance can only be to that one kingdom--the Kingdom of God. The second chapter of Daniel illustrates the kingdoms of the world and the final one kingdom that will rule the world in righteousness-the Kingdom of God. True disciples of Christ respect the flags of all nations but give allegiance to the flag of no nation. Our allegiance is to a kingdom that will never fall (Daniel 2:44).\n\nAs Christian believers, we are not first and finally citizens of the USA. We are citizens of Heaven. It is best not to speak of America as ,.our" country. It is not our country. It is the country in which we happen to have been born. None of us had a choice about where we should be born. What if you had been born in Pakistan or North Korea or Cuba? Would you be patriotic there? Then why should you be patriotic here in the USA?\n\nDuring World War 11, Lutherans fought for Germany and Lutherans fought for America. They killed each other. Why? For patriotism and for the glory of God. Does that make sense to you? They were, each in turn, patriotic for their own country.\n\nIf we vote, we are selecting a representative to act for us as individuals. When that representative makes choices and decisions, we are then obligated to support them. This could include going to war. If they declare war, that blood could well be on our hands. Those citizens who participate in the process of selecting civil officials (governors and presidents)--are then obligated to support the decisions of the officers when they are in office.\n\nWhat does the Bible say about our citizenship? Philippians 3:20 clearly tells us that our citizenship is in Heaven. Hebrews 13:14 says that God's people are looking for a country because they have no continuing city here. The Bible further says that we are ambassadors (2 Corinthians 5:20). An ambassador is a person representing a foreign coun
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In practice? I'd still have to say conservative but like most any large "group" of people out there, it'll be a mixed bag. From my own anecdotal experience, most Catholics are staunchly against America's handling of Iraq so in that sense they might be considered Democrats, left-leaning, liberal etc. With regards to other hot topic issues such as abortion Catholics are fervently Republican, right-leaning, conservative. Mind you with respect to issues of abortion and homosexual marriage there is a strong "liberal" vein in Catholic America. Unfortunately they are not in communion with the Holy See and, simply speaking, are not Catholic. The Catholic church has always had its ultra conservative elements and ultra liberal elements and has typically fostered good intra-Church debate. But at the end of the day, all true Catholics should submit themselves to the policies of the Vatican/Magisterium/Pope, if not intellectually then at the very least, in practice.
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good joke. He is a religious conservative.  They think that all the rest of us are wrong, and only their beliefs are right. Since they consider abortion bad, no matter what the circumstances of the pregnancy, and no matter what the child might be born into(such as retardation, debilitation, terminal condition), I think that G Bush is just waiting for the first opportunity to test a challenge to "Roe". Of course, it will not be him that is presenting the challenge, but one of the religious right groups.  He has just changed the makeup of the Supreme Court, which makes it far more likely that such a challenge will prevail.\n\nAs a personal opinion, I wish that each and every one of these people who oppose abortion, and who want to tell the rest of how to think, to believe, and to worship, would adopt as many children as they could.  On the one hand, dealing with some of the unadoptable chldren might change their view(never their opinion).  And, until there are no unwanted or abused or parentless children, I feel that they are being hypocrites, for forcing more unwanted children to be brought into this world.
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You underestimate the Christian Right.  They will rather modify the prayer and explain why Bush is right than impeach him.  Remember they believe he's the  President because God made him so.
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I am a Christian. I think abortion is completely and totally wrong. Its the same as murder. Once a baby is concieved, it is a human being, not just tissue. I also will tell you and every one else out tere, after a girl has had an abortion, she will most likey regret it the rest of her life, because that was a life. That baby could have become a president or someone who made a big difference in the world. Hope this helps out.   JesusSaves\nDo the same for the baby
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Mrs. Clinton does not encourage abortion. She believes that government has no right  to interfere in a decision between a doctor and their patient.
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This is another long one, sorry, but asking complicated questions and expecting short simple answers, isn’t realistic.\n\nThe religious right has two issues with Democrats; abortion and homosexuality.  Their need to impose their beliefs onto others is their motivating force behind supporting the Republican Party.  \n\nI am against abortion, but instead of creating laws which take control of a person’s beliefs and body out of that person’s hands, I believe in working harder to create a world where teenagers don’t get pregnant with unwanted children, where fathers don’t rape their children, and life is considered a gift from God.  Instead of being so determined to force a person to give birth to a child who will live a life of abuse and neglect or be dumped in a trash dumpster, they should work harder to create a world where people want to keep their children.  I believe they have given up on the power of faith and prayer.\n\nAs for homosexuality, most Christians don’t understand what the Bible says about homosexuality; they keep quoting a scripture from Leviticus which is alongside scriptures which condemn wearing cotton, shaving, and eating shell fish.  None of these Christians follow those rules, but still quote good old Leviticus to condemn something Jesus said nothing about. \n\nUsing watered down versions of the Bible which replaces the words for male prostitutes and rapists with homosexuals (a word and a culture which did not exist during the writing of the Bible), the Christian right are lost in a sea of misinformation.  \n\nInstead of following what Jesus commanded, they use the scriptures to justify what Jesus warned them not to do;  throw the first stone and judge in God’s name.\n\nUnfortunately there’s a lot of truth to what “bring ‘em on” says.  Up until the mid 1940’s modern day Republicans were Southern Democrats.  When Truman betrayed the party’s agenda of a segregated America by introducing the Fair Deal, they switched to the Republican Party.\n\nThe Republican puppeteers use the issues of abortion and homosexuality to instill fear into well meaning Christians in order to gain support for their agenda of a white, rich, segregated America.\n\nThe history is long and complicated and most people don’t have the desire to study Plato, Shakespeare, and read the philosophies of a man by the name of Emanuel Kant.  They don’t know who the Bones or the Skull and Crossbones are or how they originated.  It was no accident Roosevelt stayed out of WWII until the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor or that every American city named Delano is almost 100% white. They take the word of their leaders and don’t know much about underlying philosophies of their party.\n\nTo learn all the history, or study a man named Erasmus, or understand how the Bible came about, takes years of research and can’t be found on some propagandist web-site.   The answer to your question is written in the history of mankind by philosophers, religious leaders and world rulers, but is like a mystery which you must unravel.
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not very, he may say to stop abortion, and homosexuality but he does not say anything about helping the poor, the elderly and such, he is just using 2 highly sensitve issues to trick christians into voting for him, dont fall for this trick! On top of that he is guilty of helping big bisunesses too, taking bribes and such. I dont believe that he is a real Christian, he simply says that he is.
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Actually the Christian teachings of the Catholic Church have almost always been unpolitically correct and counter-cultural. So I don't think we are or ever have been fashionable in the United States.\n\nOne example, the Catholic Church is pro-life in the widest sense. This is often called a "Consistent Ethic of Life."\n\nThis pro-life stance stresses the highest regard for dignity of human life including that of:\n- All people in objecting to unjust war and nuclear arms.\n- The unborn in objecting to to abortion, in fitro fertilization, frozen embryos, embryonic stem cell research, and cloning\n- The elderly, sick and dying in objection to assisted suicide and euthanazia\n- Prisoners in objecting to the death penalty\n- The poor and minorities in supporting social justice issues.\n\nWith love in Christ.
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I think the main difference centers on two issues abortion and gay marriange (aka homesexual rights).  From there I think it branches out into legislations and morality.  Can a man who beleives stem cell research is bad and traditional values good enter into a war under false pretenses ?  I think we gravitate to what makes sense to us a man who refuses to let his religion interfere in legislation some believe can't be trusted.  I agree with Ann Coulter it boils down a relgious belief but both sides have their extreme representives the self-proclaimed Joan of Arcs and Buddah's.  All politics is faith based it's just a matter of where one invests his faith.  The problem with defining them comes when one side defines the other based on contrary views but that's politics.  I think at the end of the day because we can't agree on a few issues we choose to debate them all.
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Abortion is not murder. Murder is the willful taking of one human's life by another human. Physiologically, a fetus is more like a salamander than a human, and I'm not big into the salamander rights campaign. Neurologically, the child isn't complete until it's a year old, so while it's still in the womb, it's certainly not a developed human. Christians claim to take truth from the bible, and the bible makes no reference to abortion or infanticide. In fact the closest thing to a reference is in Exodus 21:22 to the punishment if a man does violence to a pregnant woman causing her to lose the child, which is different from the punishment for murder as described in Exodus 21:12, which clearly indicates that the basis for popular religious thought for the Judeo-Christian-Muslim traditions did not intend for the killing of a fetus to be regarded as murder
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As long as the person had the ability to save my life, I wouldn't care what religion they were...as a matter of fact, I'd almost be willing to bet the surgeon who did save my life many years ago isn't Christian....(never did ask, because it really didn't matter...)  It isn't spiritual matters that make the primary difference in your medical care, but whether a doctor has the knowledge, skills, and sometimes just the sheer nerve to try a procedure that might help. Competence, experience, intelligence, etc., are all far more important than whether we happen to share the same religious beliefs.
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I don't persecute him. \n\nI voted for the guy and I am glad we have a President that has guts to stand up for what is right and is a Christian.
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Being a Christian relates to your personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ.  It has nothing to do with your political affiliation.