In the Christian beliefs, there is the predestination and free will. How could they both be true?
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You do not understand "predestination." Many Christians also misunderstand and teach falsely that individuals are predestined to be saved or lost. This conflicts with scripture on several points:\n\n2Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow to keep his promise. He is not slow in the way some people understand it. He is patient with you. He doesn’t want anyone to be destroyed. Instead, he wants all people to turn away from their sins.\n\n1Timothy 2:1 First, I want all of you to pray for everyone. Ask God to bless them. Give thanks for them. 2 Pray for kings. Pray for all who are in authority. Pray that we will live peaceful and quiet lives. And pray that we will be godly and holy. 3 That is good. It pleases God our Savior. \n4 He wants everyone to be saved. He wants them to come to know the truth.\n\nEzekiel 18:23 “When sinful people die, it does not give me any joy,” announces the LORD and King. “But when they turn away from their sins and live, that makes me very happy.
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Your destiny, although God knows what it is, is not predetermined. He made us with freedom of choice; it is how we exercise that choice that determines our destiny.
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Well, I see it like this: God's will was already established both the good and the bad. But we are floating around with a choice to become either Judas Iscariot or Peter. Both were choosen to be Apostles, both sinned against God, however, only one of them chose to repent with godly sorrow and not just because he got caught like Judas did. People always say, was Judas predestined to go to hell? No, I don't think so, I believe God's will is predestined not the people that will choose themselves what part they want to play. So, predestination for those who don't want to receive Jesus because they think it will just fall on them are wrong. Proof of what I just said can be found in Deut 28, where he set before us both blessings and cursings, see the plan is set, but what part of the plan you'll be in is entirely up to you,thus, your freedom to choose! God bless you girl!
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Free will is an illusion created by those with power.  They mold society and deter or motivate the masses to do certain actions.  Religion is a fairytale used by the leaders of society to get everyone else to do what they want.
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The issue you are really trying to get at is this- Are events predetermined or not. And that means ALL events including human thought. You should research the topics "determinism" and "quantum mechanics" and then decide on an answer for yourself. One is definitely the deciding factor, but either way free will is excluded.
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There is something that is called free will.  \n\nYou do not get to do whatever you want and go to heaven . . . . . it is said Jesus will not return to the earth until every person has heard the truth.  You have people who are put in your path in life and they were maybe only there to tell you . . . Jesus loves you and accept him and you will go to heaven.\n\nThat seed was planted, you now have the knowledge and decide to listen or not.\n\nSame with Christians, they can decide to listen to God and follow him or not.  There are Christians that will go to hell.  \n\nThe difference is they know that God is a loving and forgiving God and as long as you are not intentionally sinning and saying you are covered by the spirit, you can and anyone can ask for forgiveness at any time.\n\nBy the way there are different places in heaven . . . . . everyone is not going to the same "level" if you will.
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The doctrine of free will is a lie.
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Even a slave may have free will, and slaves have been known to rebel and break away and even make a successful escape. So even the slaves of sin and Satan the Devil have free will, and God appeals to their exercise of this free will by having the message of salvation and deliverance presented to them through Christ. (2 Cor. 5:18-20) If this were not the case it would be very unfair for God to present to humans something that he would have to admit they were not free to accept. On the other hand, it is the Devil and his organization (invisible and visible) that try to wash the peoples’ brains, that try to deprive humans of free will, and try to terrorize them against using the God-given freedom of will. Some humans, too, so degrade themselves in sin and corruption (and that out of their own free will or choice) that they have very little strength of will left to incline them toward good and its continuous acceptance.—Rom. 1:20-32.
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The debate is an age old one, commonly known as Calvinism (pre-destination) and Armenianism (free will).  Christian theologians such as John Calvin support the idea that man kind suffers from complete moral depravity (the inability to chose right over wrong).  Because of that, it is by God's grace alone that any person is saved, and there is nothing we can do to achieve salvation.  Therefore, because humans are unable to make any correct moral decisions on their own, those who are saved are saved only because they were predestined by God to be saved.\nOn the other hand, theologians such as John Wesley support the idea that humans indeed do have the ability to choose, and therefore have a moral responsibilty to act morally and conduct themselves with holiness in mind.  \nBoth concepts seem to have their strong and weak points.  Ultimately, this debate will probably not be resolved in this life.  I personally think that predestination and free will are not mutually exclusive, seeing as God's ways are greater than ours.  Hope that helps.
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God doesn't plan your life he just knows your decisions and its outcomes before you do. We have free will and common sense a gift or blessing God gave to all of us. But our sufferings on earth doesn't have any comparisons to our paradise in heaven!
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If evil exists and god is against evil then god cannot be all good all knowing and all powerful at the same time.He either doesn't know about evil, doesn't have a problem with evil, or can't do anything about evil. \n\nThis is not about free will either, as if god is all knowing he would have known about evil before it happens, If he were all powerful he would be able to stop the evil, and were he all good he would not have created people who were going to do evil in the first place. \n\nThere is no way arround it, such a god would have created the universe for evil to be in it. He would have wanted evil. Thankfully there's polytheism.
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It is not sensible to believe that if you once recieved Christ and then want to back out that you can't.  Why anyone would want to, I don't know.  The very idea of free will must give us that option.  It is like saying that God will force you to go to heaven, when you have changed your mind..  I think he will send you where you want to go.
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For the Christian, God knows all. He knows what we will do and even think. But we don't. He has given us free will. So whatever decisions I make are new to me; I don't know the outcome, but God does.
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In Christianity the trinity is belived to be a mathimatical annomaliy. Instead of 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 (Father, Son, and Holy spirit) it is actually 100% for all three. The debate over free will versus destiny has existed since time began. I believe in a divine creator and His rule over my life, but I also believe in free will. To me it is another annomaliy in our reality. I believe we have 100% free will, but that we are also 100% bound to our destiny. I don't think it's one or the other, but rather both in a very complete way. \n\nWith that in mind we are divided in our aims and goals based on our relation with that source. Since we all carry the same creator and that creator gave us free will, we all take different paths. One leads to that creator, others don't. I would love it if pluralism applied to reality, but since all faiths say they are THE one, then they all can't be right. Especially with Christianity. Christ said "I am the way, the truth, and the light. No one comes to the Father except through the Son." In that scripture He is saying that you can only take one path to reach God and no other.\n\nImagine a city street with millions of pedestrains. Half of them are going in one direction and the other half are going in the oppposite direction. They are bumping and shoving and stumbling on to each other. This is the human experience. One group is traveling towards the creator and what is good, the other half is traveling away from the creator to satisfy their pride. Either way you travel you will have conflict and you will bump into others with different aims, goals, and destinies. What really matters is that you travel with kindness, love, and in the right direction.\n\nlightbringer1979@yahoo.com\n\nGodspeed\n\nP.S. Just one note on a comment above. The Muslims and Christians actually DO worship the same God. And both believe in Christ as well. It's just that Christians believe He is the son of God.
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free will.\nWe all are free to make choices.
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Simply that there are two things at work, here. Firt of all, Humans have Free Will, and their own free will can lead to problems, the natural consequences to their choices and their behavior. \n\nSecond thing is random chance, not a Gd who condemns and where every little thing is a result of some punishment, or, for that matter, a reward:::\n\n            ""Ecclesiastes 9:11  I returned, and saw under \n            the sun, that the race is not to the swift, \n            nor the battle to the strong, neither yet \n            bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of \n            understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; \n            BUT TIME AND CHANCE HAPPENS TO THEM ALL.""
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Good question. This is a big controversy in the church. I believe Gods word and it says that He chose us before the foundations of the earth and that we are predestined.\n\nRomans 8:30 \nAnd those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.\nEphesians 1:11\nIn him we were also chosen,[e] having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, \n\nPlainly we are told that we are chosen and predestined. But the Bible also tells us that we have to make a choice. Its really hard to merge these ideas together. But if you give God the credit He deserves its much easier. God already knows what your choice is. He will not intercede and force you to go against your will of your choice. For example; those who are unsaved, He already knows where you will spend eternity. He predestined according to the choice He knew you would make where your place in eternity would be. So why are some chosen and not others? He, who knows all, past, present, and future, knew which ones would trust Him and which ones would not. He chose to save those who trust Him and choose to be with Him. He chose to give those who do not trust him or want to be with Him their wish and seperate Himself from them resulting in hell. So we are predestined according to our choices that may or may not have even been made yet. We are merely in the process of acting out our choices to arrive at the outcome. \n\nPlease know that God didnt draw names from a hat to decide who would be punished.\n\nI hope this helps. It is impossible to comprehend without faith and trust in the Lord.