Does any one really know the causes of fibromyaglia?
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Doctors give you the run around I know and they really don't know how to treat it.  the truth is, one needs to add up all the traumas in their life, their injuries, emotional traumas, birth etc. if an injusry occurrs and the body has not had proper therapy or eliminated all the trauma then the body and brain continues to send signals to the area surrounding the old injury to protect it.  When the protective devices occur spasms occur...such as an old spinal injusry or a tailbone injury.  The brain and body does not know that the trauma is over so it continues to protect the area.  As a consequence there is fluid or static tension that holds in and traps toxins.  It is the toxins that your body holds in that causes the pain.  For example...people often think of what they see on their inner thigh or outer hips as sellulite.  If you go in deep with heat and massage this acutally breaks it down so it cannot be cellulite it has to be sluggish or dead white blood cells that have been trapped.  Try ddeplyu massaging your calves in a hot bath, splitting the gastrocnemius apart and digging in, massage toward the knee keeping a strong grip and staying deep between the muscle.  You should feel a squishy type of felling and that is all those toxins being moved.  By the time we are in deep total pain, we are full of toxins.  I had a broken back, 3 ceasareans and years of anitbiotics treatmenet as a child.  Therefore i had a lot of txic buildup that cuased me unable to move in the morning.    I trained in Canada in myofascial release, ddep tissue massage and as a nutritionist.  I subsequently, witht he aid of a chiropractic began treating myself.  My body kept spasming bACK TO PROTECT THE OLD INJUSRIES.  i DECIDED i NEEDED TO DETOS AND WITH HERBAL REMEDIES iAND HOEMOPATHIC REMEDIES BEGAN. wHILE THAT HELPED THE PAIN IN MY LEGS IT DID NOT KEEP THE CIRCULATION GOING ALL DAY.  I SUBSEQUENTLY BOUGHT AN INFRA RED sAUNA WHIch provides deep heat into the muscle and stimulates the toxins to move.  Talk about a lot of poops!  The infrared aids your body to relax and circulation to occur.  When this happns, the new red blood cells can move in, oxygenate the old injury, move out all the old gunk and help you heal.  Once really needs to se a chirocpractor or massage therapist to move the joints that have been displace because of the different tensions caused by the toxins though right after a heat treatmenet and at least once a week until you can move them yourself.  This goes on and on...i can tell you more if you want to email me at lgsparrow@hotmail.com.  I want to tell you that the healing soes not take place over night.  I still need to deal with the old injusires, have my neck and lower back put into place (stress causes it to go out again) and exercise. Fybromyalgia is a catch 22 illness...your body needs the exercise but you can't do it because your locked up in pain.  i will tell you my sauna was my life saver..i don't get those blow off headaches and do not need pain killers and muscle relzxants any more.  ps  just read one of your replies...do not let people tell you that it is depression...that is the doctor's first answer ...the depression occurs because we've been in pain for so long...not only is your obdy full of toxins but the blodd supply to the brain as well....antidepressants aren't the answer...cleaning your system out and letting the body know it CAN heal now is the answer
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depending on how long....fibromyalgia?
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Personally, I have had Fibro since I was 16 and am now almost 36. I have seen more doctors over the years than I can count from Neurologists to Rhuematologists to Chiropractors to Psychiatrists to Pain Specialists. In my experience pain medications do not work. A muscle relaxant is much more helpful. I have also tried biofeedback, steroid shots, trigger point injections, two sleep studies, nerve blocks, accupuncture, foot braces, wrist braces, carpal tunnel release surguries, and so much more. All just torture and I felt like a guinea pig.\n\nMy best advise is make sure to get plenty of sleep, take a multiple vitamin, remember you are what you eat, keep active in at least low impact sports, and consider Magnesium and Malic Acid supplements (consult the doctor or a nutritionist to have your Magnesuim level checked- it is a simpe mouth swab and not painful), meditation does help some in keeping the pain back if you can seperate your mind from the pain, and try to take 2-3 warm Epson Salt baths a week (Epson salt contains Magnesium and soaking in a warm tub of it helps to get the mineral into the body. Magnesium aids the muscles in using oxygen and when the level is low which is typical in Fibro it can cause are cramps, spasms, and pain.) \n\nAlso, Fibromyalgia is a neurotransmitter disorder and certain foods can trigger similiar symptoms to Fibro. Try eliminating Monsodium Glutamate from your diet. I did and some of my symptoms (chronic headaches and nausea) went away. It is in everything from Doritos to chicken soup. A few key finding's of an FDA study found MSG to cause a "burning sensation in the back of the neck, forearms and chest". Otherwise, learn your limits and pace yourself.\n\nGood luck!\n\nHere's some of the best information available.\n\nTreatment of Fibromyalgia in Detail\nRobert Bennett MD, FRCP\n\nIf you are reading this you probably have a common syndrome of chronic musculoskeletal pain called fibromyalgia. This chronic pain state is now appreciated to be caused by abnormalities of sensory processing within the spinal cord and brain. As such you will usually experience a bewildering (both to you and your doctor) array of bodily and psychological problems that can seldom be “cured”. However, armed with both patience and knowledge, many fibromyalgia patients can be helped to live with less pain and be more productive. In my own evolving experience of dealing with this problem I can identify 7 aspects of management that are of importance for your doctor to successful manage your fibromyalgia.\n\nMy Advice to Doctors who care for Fibromyalgia Patients\n\n1. Realize that FM patients are going to be a chronic challenge.\n2. Be non-judgmental and prepared to be an advocate.\n3. Understand the pathophysiological basis for symptoms.\n4. Analyze and treat pain complaints in a systemic approach.\n5. Recognize and treat psychological problems at an early stage.\n6. Recognize associated syndromes of disordered sensory processing.\n7. Involve all FM patients in a program of stretching and gentle aerobic exercise.\n\nTreatment of pain in fibromyalgia \n\nPain is the primary over-riding problem for most of you. Many of the problems you experience are largely a secondary consequence of having chronic pain. When pain is even partly relieved, fibromyalgia patients experience a significant improvement in psychological distress, cognitive abilities, sleep and functional capacity. A total elimination of pain is currently not possible in the majority of fibromyalgia patients. However worthwhile improvements can nearly always be achieved by a careful systematic analysis of the pain complaints. As a generalization fibromyalgia related pain can be divided into general pain (i.e. the chronic background pain experience and focal pain (i.e. the intensification of pain in a specific region – usually aggravated by movement). The latter is probably a potent driving force in the generation of central sensitization. Attem
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Check out www.fibromyalgiatreatment.com/.  \n\nThen get the entire family checked for hyperinsulinemia - a precursor condition for hypoglycemia (a sometimes concurrent condition with fibromyalgia), diabetes and heart trouble.\n\nFor basic information on hyperinsulinemia, check out www.hufa.org.
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it is possible that your fibromyalgia is the key culprit to the deterioration of your body, I hate to hear that you have that because from what I have read about it, it is a terrible disease. I hope you find out what the cause is but my guess would be the fibromyalgia. Take Care and God Bless
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Something in your environment may also be triggering them, for my wife it was either cleaning chemicals or personal products, both can be quite toxic, when we switched to safe alternatives her migraines stopped and have not returned.
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i found some fibromyalgia wipes at rite aid ,they really help with the pain,out of them at the moment so not sure of the name .was in the bengay isle.
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Fibromyalgia is a soft tissue rheumatism problen.  It causes severe pain from the top of your head to your feet.  The arthritis foundation is realizing the severety and you can find much good\ninfo on this.  I have had it since 1985 and have suffered but\nI never gave up and tried anything and everything.  At this time I am taking rioboost and last week the Dr. said to go to corvalen.\ncom and use a product with ribose and mallic acid and magnesium.  I have not started this yet but will order it asap.\nI also have MG and arthritis so the money for OTC and prescriptiondrugs holds me back sometimes but I keep going.\nSometimes I have to choose which is the most important.,\nbut the pain of fibro rules most of the time.  I can't take steroids\nbut they will pull you out of pain fast while you research what will be best for you.  Good luck and God bless.
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I believe there are many conditions that can cause this, but you really should go see a doctor if you're suffering this.
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can be caused by any number of things if anything on or in brain MRI should find it good luck
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No but I would talk to your doctor and see what is causing that.
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I also live in PA.  try this webiste for some very good doctors.  www.geisinger.org    This hospital is fundemental in fibromyalgia and other problems that other hospitals can't fix.  I hope it can be of some help.  Glad to see I can help a neighbor.
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Here is a study that explains why people with Fibromyalgia are always in pain.\nFibromyalgia pain, isn't all in patients' heads new brain study finds.\nJune 7, 2002 fMRI scans give first objective measure of mysterious ailment, provide road map for future study\n\n\n\nANN ARBOR, MI - A new brain-scan study confirms scientifically what fibromyalgia patients have been telling a skeptical medical community for years: They're really in pain.\n\nIn fact, the study finds, people with fibromyalgia say they feel severe pain, and have measurable pain signals in their brains, from a gentle finger squeeze that barely feels unpleasant to people without the disease. The squeeze's force must be doubled to cause healthy people to feel the same level of pain - and their pain signals show up in different brain areas.\n\nThe results, published in the May issue of Arthritis & Rheumatism, the journal of the American College of Rheumatology, may offer the proof of fibromyalgia's physical roots that many doubtful physicians have sought. It may also open doors for further research on the still-unknown causes of the disease, which affects more than 2 percent of Americans, mainly women.\n\nLead authors Richard Gracely, Ph.D., and Daniel Clauw, M.D., did the study at Georgetown University Medical Center and the National Institutes of Health, but are now continuing the work at the University of Michigan Health System. In an editorial in the same issue, Clauw and U-M rheumatologist Leslie Crofford, M.D., stress the importance of fibromyalgia research and care.\n\nTo correlate subjective pain sensation with objective views of brain signals, the researchers used a super-fast form of MRI brain imaging, called functional MRI or fMRI, on 16 fibromyalgia patients and 16 people without the disease. As a result, they say, the study offers the first objective method for corroborating what fibromyalgia patients report they feel, and what's going on in their brains at the precise moment they feel it. And, it gives researchers a road map of the areas of the brain that are most - and least - active when patients feel pain.\n\n"The fMRI technology gave us a unique opportunity to look at the neurobiology underlying tenderness, which is a hallmark of fibromyalgia," says Clauw. "These results, combined with other work done by our group and others, have convinced us that some pathologic process is making these patients more sensitive. For some reason, still unknown, there's a neurobiological amplification of their pain signals."\n\nFurther results from the study were presented last year at the ACR annual meeting. The project will continue later this year at UMHS, joining other fMRI fibromyalgia research now under way.\n\nFor decades, patients and physicians have built a case that fibromyalgia is a specific, diagnosable chronic disease, characterized by tenderness and stiffness all over the body as well as fatigue, headaches, gastrointestinal problems and depression. Many patients with the disease find it interferes with their work, family and personal life. Statistics show that far more women than men are affected, and that it occurs mostly during the childbearing years.\n\nThe ACR released classification criteria for fibromyalgia in 1990, to help doctors diagnose it and rule out other chronic pain conditions. Clauw and Crofford's editorial looks at the current state of research, and calls for rheumatologists to take the lead in fibromyalgia care and science.\n\nBut many skeptics have debated the very existence of fibromyalgia as a clearly distinct disorder, saying it seemed to be rooted more in psychological and social factors than in physical, biological causes. Their argument has been bolstered by the failure of research to find a clear cause, an effective treatment, or a non-subjective way of assessing patients.\n\nWhile the debate has raged, neuroscientists have begun to use brain scan technology to identify the are
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Fibromyalgia syndrome (FMS) is a neurological disorder of hypersensitization - it definitely is NOT caused by depression. Joint pain would be arthritis, or a related condition :-)\n\nBecause there isn't one test that says, "Hey, you definitely have fibromyalgia syndrome (FMS)!" the diagnostic process can be pretty long.\n\nIf you've experienced pain in all four quadrants (above your waist on the right side, above your waist on the left side, below your waist on the left side, and below your waist on the right side) for more than three months (some doctors insist on six), and you've tested negative for everything else that would explain full-body pain (arthritis, scoliosis, degenerative disc disease, lupus, lyme disease, ankylosing spondylitis, multiple sclerosis, etc.), a rheumatologist should do a tender point examination. \n\nNo more than 4kg/1.54km2 of pressure is applied to 18 specific points on your body (don't confuse these with trigger points, which are different). That's a very little bit of pressure - if you push your finger against something, just as the skin under your nail starts to change color, it's a little less than that much pressure. That's how it was explained to me.\n\nSomeone who has fibromyalgia will experience significant pain in at least 11 of the 18 points. (There's some controversy on that at the moment, because symptoms can vary from day to day, but that's the official criteria right now as established by the American College of Rheumatology.) I felt like screaming with all 18. \n\nThere are people who say, "Oh, I think I have fibromyalgia!" just like there are plenty of people who walk around claiming to have chronic fatigue syndrome or who say they have "allergies" to everything under the sun when they really mean they don't like your perfume. Unless someone has been officially diagnosed by a rheumatologist, AFTER having everything else ruled out, call bullshit on any claims to having fibromyalgia. It's too often used as an by hypochondriacs.\n\nUnfortunately it's also used as a "wastebasket" diagnosis by doctors who are too lazy to find out what a patient's real problems are. Fibromyalgia is considered incurable, so it's easy to say, "Oh, you've got FMS, nothing I can do for you, get used to it." If you run in to that kind of doctor, fire him!\n\nThat kind of nonsense makes it very hard to get fibromyalgia, which IS very real, taken seriously. I speak as someone diagnosed with it in 1993. My daughter was diagnosed in 1999 (she's just 16 now). It's a nasty thing, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. If you have it, there are plenty of things you can do to improve your life. I've made it one of my missions in life to share what I've learned about it with others :-)\n\nOn the depression issue: People who have fibromyalgia often feel depressed, but that's understandable considering the symptoms we live with :-)\n\nAs for whether or not being depressed can cause a fibromyalgia flare - well, any stressor can make fibromyalgia symptoms worse. Most depressed people don't take care of themselves as well as they would otherwise, and studies have established that depression causes us to perceive any kind of irritant as more annoying than it would be otherwise. So the fibromyalgia is going to get to you more when you're depressed, and being depressed is going to make you less likely to take good care of yourself to alleviate your fibromyalgia symptoms. It's a pretty nasty feedback loop.\n\nI wish you luck in dealing with fibromyalgia and/or depression, if you or someone you care about are. Please let us know how you're doing.
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I have had Fibro since I was 16, actually 20 years now. It does sound like you have some of the symptoms. I am also wondering if you may have Rhuematiod Arthritis because of the joint involvement. Your headaches may actually be Cluster Headaches if they continue to reoccur frequently and you have a sharp pain around one eye. My clusters usually sit in the back of my head until a spike hits me in the eye (what it feels like). Also, these conditions can co-exist (you can have them both). I don't believe I have ever taken Accutane.\nFibromyalgia associated syndromes\n\nIt is not unusual for fibromyalgia patients to have an array of bodily complaints other than musculoskeletal pain. It is now thought that these symptoms are a result of the abnormal sensory processing – as described in the previous section. Recognition and treatment of these associated problems are important in the overall management of your fibromyalgia. \n\nNon-restorative sleep\nCognitive dysfunction\nChronic fatigue\nCold intolerance\nRestless leg syndrome\nMultiple sensitivities\nIrritable bowel syndrome\nDizziness\nIrritable bladder syndrome\nNeurally mediated hypotension\n\n1. Chronic fatigue: The common treatable cause of chronic fatigue in fibromyalgia patients are: (1) inappropriate dosing of medications (TCAs, drugs with antihistamine actions, benzodiazapines etc.), (2) depression, (3) aerobic deconditioning, (3) a primary sleep disorder (e.g. sleep apnea), (4) non-restorative sleep (see above) and (5) neurally mediated hypotension (see below). A new drug called Provigil is of some help when used intermittently for management of fatigue.\n\n2. Restless leg syndrome: This strictly refers to daytime (usually maximal in the evening) symptoms of (1) unusual sensations in the lower limbs (but can occur in arms or even scalp) that are often described as paresthesia (numbness, tingling, itching, muscle crawling) and (2) a restlessness, in that stretching or walking eases the sensory symptoms. This daytime symptomatology is nearly always accompanied by a sleep disorder - now referred to as periodic limb movement disorder (formerly nocturnal myoclonus). Treatment is simple and very effective – DOPA / Levodopa (Sinemet) in an early evening dose of 10/100 (a minority require a higher dose or use of the long acting preparations).\n\n3. Irritable bowel syndrome: This common syndrome of GI distress that occurs in about 20% of the general population is found in about 60% of fibromyalgia patients. The symptoms are those of abdominal pain, distension with an altered bowel habit (constipation, diarrhea or an alternating disturbance). Typically the abdominal discomfort is improved by bowel evacuation. Due to abnormal sensory processing these symptoms may be quite distressing to fibromyalgia patients. Treatment involves (1) elimination of foods that aggravate symptoms, (2) minimizing psychological distress, (3) adhering to basic rules for maintaining a regular bowel habit, (4) prescribing medications for specific symptoms; constipation (stool softener, fiber supplementation and gentle laxatives such as bisacodyl), diarrhea (loperamide or diphenoxylate) and antispasmodics (dicyclomine or anticholinergic / sedative preparations such as Donnatal).\n\n4. Irritable bladder syndrome: This is found in 40-60% of fibromyalgia patients. The initial incorrect diagnoses are usually recurrent urinary tract infections, interstitial cystitis or a gynecological condition. Once these possibilities have been ruled out a diagnosis of irritable bladder syndrome (also called female urethal syndrome) should be considered. The typical symptoms are those of suprapubic discomfort with an urgency to void, often accompanied by frequency and dysuria. In a sub-population of fibromyalgia patients this is related to a myofascial trigger point in the pubic insertion of the rectus abdominus muscles – and may be helped by a procaine myofascial trigger point injection). Treatment: involves (1) incr
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Fibromyalgia (pronounced "fie-bro-my-al-jia") is not a disease but a collection of symptoms (referred to as a syndrome) characterized by widespread musculoskeletal aches and pains, stiffness, fatigue and muscle spasms. The exact etiology of FS has not been identified although a myriad of mechanisms have been proposed, including inability to acquire appropriate sleep, micro-circulation disturbances, hormonal changes and others.
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I have done some research on this because my mom has been stricken with Alztiemers. Drs dont think its aluminium. They say most the time its triggered from stroke or stress. They dont know for sure the cause.