Did Republican Abe Lincoln rig the Diebold machines to win the Civil War?
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Of course. Republicans are evil and always have been, right? I mean who was it with the hoses trying to keep blacks from voting? Oh, that was the Democrats.\n\nBut who voted to keep slavery legal? Yeah, that was the Democrats again.\n\nHow about that racist George Wallace? Darn, he was a Democrat, too.\n\nOk, I've got it! Who appointed the first black person as Secretary of State, huh? Oops, that was a Republican.
771970
No, not as long as we are using Diebold voting machines.  (Diebold gives money to Republicans).  Democracy is dead.  Wake up and smell the coffee of the kingdom of George W. Bush...and his gay, merry, pranksters.
1072065
Good job! Evidently, you've done your homework! \n\nMany aren't aware that the American Civil War was "NOT" about slavery. Nor are many aware that slaves were still being held as private property in the North during that time. Abraham Lincoln owned a slave during the war, and Union General U.S. Grant owned 4. \n\nThe war was, from the Southern standpoint, over States Rights, i.e., a state had authority over the federal government within it's own borders. And also, to defend against an illegal military invasion from the North. \n\nBut it's always the victors in war that write the history, isn't it?
959435
Republicans get in by a hair.\nVoting machine fraud proven.\nCivil War.\nAssassination.
1123134
Economics...that's actually what the Civil War boiled down to, as well.  The Northern States had long since embraced the technological advances of their day (hence their having the time to stand back and see how reprehensible slavery was)  The South was still pretty dependent on physical slave labor, and didn't really embrace technologies as readily.  But even if the south had won that war, slavery would have gone away eventually because it would have simply become too expensive compared to the technology...
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He did not so much abuse presidential power as he expanded it. \n\nHe convinced Congress to suspend Habeus Corpus. \n\nNothing in the Constitution prior to the Civil War suggested that states could not secede, but Mr. Lincoln forged an amendment in blood over the issue.
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It's never been done.  \nUlysses S. Grant won the 1872 election against his main opponent Horace Greeley with 286 electoral college votes.  Greeley recieved 3, but they were never counted.  There were, however, four other candidates.  Thomas Hendricks recieved 42 votes, B. Gratz Brown took 18, Charles Jenkins won 2 and David Davis recieved 1 electoral vote.   \n\nit's almost happened a few times; \nIn 1820 Monroe beat John Adams 231-1 \nIn 1936 FDR beat Alfred Landon 523-8\nAnd Reagan beat Walter Mondale in 1984 525-13
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when mr Diebold  told Bush he would "deliver the presidency" to him what do you think he meant?\nThe diebold voting machines can be reprogrammed to say pretty much anything you like. Plus, they removed the option for a paper reciept, despite the fact that such a think is a basic right.\nFace it, Bush was never legally elected.
186416
Much like G.W. Bush, Lincoln's election was a bit of a controversy. The South had in the past benefited from political division in the North but in this election the Democratic party (not the exact same as today's, but relatively similar) was split and thus Southern votes were split. Lincoln, a Republican (again, not the same as modern Republicans, but relatively similar), won because his opposition was not unified.
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Agreed.  If Diebold was such a big issue, and the Dems were screaming about it days before the election, with their win, why are they not curious to know if their own win had anything to do with it.  Hell, I'm not about to cry voter fraud, but I will say its hypocritical to only whine and complain about fraud only if you lose.  Reps were respectable today, Bush was nice to Pelosi, and everyone is stepping down quietly.  I only wish the Dems would have done the same in the past
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If Bush had it his way, he'd continue the war until he tapped all of the available resources he could possibly get out of it!\nThat's why Diebold was created, so rupublicans can steal the next election as well, and continue to profit from his and Cheney's big oil, and war machine manufacturing companies.
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Abraham Lincoln \n\n(February 12, 1809 – April 15, 1865), sometimes called Abe Lincoln and nicknamed Honest Abe, the Rail Splitter, and the Great Emancipator, was the 16th President of the United States (1861 to 1865), and the first president from the Republican Party. Lincoln opposed the expansion of slavery and oversaw the Union war effort during the American Civil War. He selected the generals and approved their strategy; selected senior civilian officials; supervised diplomacy, patronage and party operations; rallied public opinion through messages and speeches such as the Gettysburg Address; and took personal charge of plans for the abolition of slavery and the Reconstruction of the Union. He was assassinated as the war ended.\n\nPresident Lincoln was opposed to what he saw as the Slave Power and staunchly opposed its efforts to expand slavery into federal territories. His victory in the 1860 presidential election was the final straw in the deep South, where seven states seceded, formed the Confederate States of America, and took control of U.S. forts and other properties within their boundaries, setting the stage for the American Civil War.\n\nLincoln is often praised for his work as a wartime leader who proved himself at balancing competing considerations and at getting rival groups to work together toward a common goal. Lincoln had to negotiate between Radical and Moderate Republican leaders, who were often far apart on the issues, while attempting to win support from War Democrats and loyalists in the seceding states. He personally directed the war effort, in close cooperation (1864-65) with General Ulysses S. Grant which in spring 1865 led to the surrender of all Confederate armies.\n\nHis leadership qualities were evident in his first diplomatic handling of the border slave states at the beginning of the fighting, in his defeat of a congressional attempt to reorganize his cabinet in 1862, in his many speeches and writings which helped mobilize and inspire the North, and in his defusing of the peace issue in the 1864 presidential campaign. Copperheads vehemently criticized him for violating the Constitution, overstepping the bounds of executive power, refusing to compromise on slavery, declaring martial law, suspending habeas corpus, ordering the arrest of 18,000 opponents including public officials and newspaper publishers, and killing hundreds of thousands of young men, soldiers in the war. Radical Republicans criticized him for going too slow in the abolition of slavery, and not being ruthless enough toward the conquered South.\n\nLincoln is most famous for his roles in preserving the Union and ending slavery in the United States with the Emancipation Proclamation and the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.\n\nHistorians have argued that Lincoln had a lasting influence on U.S. political and social institutions, importantly setting a precedent for greater centralization of powers in the federal government and the weakening of the powers of the individual state governments.\n\nLincoln spent most of his attention on military matters and politics but with his strong support his administration established the current system of national banks with the National Bank Act. He increased the tariff to raise revenue and encourage factories, imposed the first income tax, issued hundreds of millions of dollars of bonds and Greenbacks, encouraged immigration from Europe, started the transcontinental railroad, set up the Department of Agriculture, encouraged farm ownership with the Homestead Act of 1862, and set up the modern system of state universities with the Morrill Land-Grant Colleges Act. During the war his Treasury department effectively controlled all cotton trade in the occupied South--the most dramatic incursion of federal controls on the economy. During his administration West Virginia and Nevada were admitted as states.\n\nLincoln is always ranked as one of the two or three greatest presidents.
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let's look at the facts...\n\nA. Lincoln freed the slaves... his opponents did not want this to happen in the south... he was a Republican...\n\nB. in the 1960's Republicans were fought with everything they could to stop the civil rights movement... prominent republican figures like strom thurmond and jessie helms are clearly not in the line of Lincoln... \n\nhow do you explain this difference?
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Yes!  The voting machines can be fixed.  There was a show on HBO I think last Tues. or Wed. called Hacking Democracy.  It showed how a hacker could alter the vote totals in the memory cards that counted all the votes.  It also showed another arrogant company (Dieboldt), proclaiming it couldn't be done after it was shown to be possible.  There was also a voting machine showing 16,000 negative votes for Al Gore in the last election... and yes it was in Florida.  Dieboldt actually left the program on an open ftp site.  Go to HBO.com, there must be a link.  Old news to some extent, but pretty scary nonetheless.\n\n\n\nOkay- to the 2 thumbs down with blinders on.  Do the research and tell me I didn't see the show.  It's attitudes like that which divide us.
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It will ultimatley be decided on whether he is successful in his objectives.  Short term unpopularity is not despostive to historical greatness.  President Lincoln was one of the most unpopular presidents in his day, but now he is widely considered a great president.
1150308
Yes. Al Gore was cheated out of the presidency as was Kerry. Now they know how to rig the voting machines so there is no paper trail so they will win every time. It is disgusting.
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Makes sense to me since most of the people who voted to get him elected were apparently conservative Christians. I don't see a problem with that.\n\nPopularity doesn't determine right or wrong. Abraham Lincoln was so unpopular that half of the United States seceded from the union. Adolf Hitler (initially) was very popular in Germany.