Evangelical leader resigns amid gay sex allegations?what do you think of the gay scandal?
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i think the leader is a human who can make mistakes...God will forgive him...it was smart to quit...unlike other leaders who demand to stay in power...
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Last week's Newsweek had a wonderful article about Evangelical Christians' impact on laws and government, and developments of the Evangelical movement.\n\nI do believe that the fundamentalist Christian viewpoint is influencing policy a little too closely these days.  I believe firmly in the seperation of church and state, which is a founding principle of this country, despite what some folks will claim.  However, I don't necessarily think that mixing religion and politics is always a bad thing, particularly if it happens on an individual level.  By this I mean, for instance, a lawmaker who, because of his/her religious upbringing, values service to the poor.  Because he/she has this ethical value of helping the poor, he/she sets up a program in his/her district that offers skills training and assistance with job hunting to people on welfare.  \n\nHowever, when the mixing of religion and politics becomes more a matter of attempting to legislate a particular moral code or prohibiting certain things simply because this is part of this religion, then there is a problem.  I think we are seeing this in several areas.  The first is the constant attack on a woman's right to choose, which since Roe v. Wade is being steadily chipped away by legislation such as parental consent laws and the ban on third trimester abortions.  Another is the push and increase in funding to abstinence-only sex ed. programs in schools, which has been shown to be ineffective.  Speaking of abstinence-only, this also applies to AIDS relief funding.  The government requires AIDS-relief programs to spend a certain amount of money on promoting abstinence as a preventative measure, which has caused difficulties in many of these programs to effectively provide adequate preventative care.  There is a continuous push to teach "intelligent design," a theory with no backing from scientists (outside of a handful of Christian scientists), alongside the well-established evolutionary theory in public school science classrooms.  Less succesful has been efforts to re-establish official school prayer, although this issue pops up periodically (even though no-one is stopping students from praying privately in school, or establishing after-school prayer groups).  Funding has been effectively curtailed for stem-cell research, which has the potential to provide cures for several life-threatening illnesses, based on the fudnamentalist belief that human life begins at conception.  And of course, the current debate over gay rights and equal marriage.\n\nThere are also the self-stated goals of several Christian groups, to promote Christian values and the Christian way of life in government.  That doesn't sound so bad, if we're talking about promoting the values of "Love thy neighbor," "Turn thy cheek," "Blessed are the peace-keepers" and "Whatsoever you do onto the least of these, so to you do unto me."  However, when we start talking about things like, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live," I get very nervous.\n------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nI got your e-mail, the answer is yes.  I couldn't reply to the e-mail because your e-mail address hasn't been confirmed yet.
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uh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...\nsomeone just came out of the closet.....
621375
Look, all those "christians" are full of $hit because when I went to sunday school, I was taught that Jesus died for your sins.  That means that, should homosexuality be a sin, it is forgiven.  Also guess what, i'm gay and taken communion and also been baptized and through confirmation (lutheran).  That being said, some people will believe what the media will tell them.  That means that if the president constantly spams anti-gay propaganda on the news and in his addresses, then most of the public will agree... sorry to say but at least 20% of Americans have to be told what to think.  In the 90's how many people did you see actively voicing their opposition against homosexuality, aside from places like tennessee, and extreme rural closeminded "everyone knows everyone else so you best be on yo' best behavior" type communities?  Some people just aren't open to change, and others just like to make sure that they are happier than others, while there are those that like to MAKE DA.MN SURE that no one can be happier than they.  Then there are those unfortunate people that were brought up in those unhealthy prejudice households.  Those are also the people that are still stuck in the 60's in the black rights movement... Please... we've gotten past that.  You just have to realize that this is the civil rights movement of our time and that the gays will prevail, just because that's how America is.  Some of you won't like that comment, but just wait until you're much older... say thirty years from now and read about it in the history textbooks.  Other than that, I still love the people that hate me for being gay, and if I were to come across them when they were involved in a car accident I would still call 911 for them and offer any assistance that I could... I'm just nice like that.  I'll quit now before i get myself all worked up over the subject.
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Liberals are supposted to support homosexuality, why is it a problem for liberals that some pastor and Foley turned out to be gay.  I'm a republican and I could care less about gay marriage and the like.  Plus, Foley and that Haggard guy don't represent the entire republican party, me, or any other conservatives
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Ford says: "Seems to me that you guys, insist to air your views. I do not care what you guys do, or not do, just stop talking about it, day in and day out"\n\n\nTell ya what, Ford.  As soon as Christians STFU about "airing their views" and their hate, we'll follow.\n\nYOU FIRST!\n\n\nAnd, for BettyBoop.  Walk in my shoes, sweetie.  It's ONE EXAMPLE of many.  Many on this board alone.  He took ONE example.  With only a thousand characters allowed in a question, ya can't list them all.  If you don't see a LOT of christian hate on here toward gays, then you are F'ing blind.  It's present in almost every question string in this category.  Just don't stick in in your face??  This means, again, that YOU are free to publicly display your affections, but gays can't??  They must keep it hidden, out of YOUR sight???  F--- YOU and your HATE!!!  You love everyone???  NOT!!!
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The Catholic Bishops are not jumping on the gay bandwagon.  The guidelines state that the gay parishoners cannot make known their sexual orientation or practice any kind of gay relationship.  \n\nThis would have happened if the Republicans remained in control.  These things will happen again and again until future generations ask "Why did your generation have such a problem with gay relationships".
925213
He was dismissed today for "sexually immoral conduct"... now he's out of a really lucrative job... wonder if the Metropolitan Community Church would be willing to let him apply... ROTFLMAO
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mudcat, you seem to be pissed with Christians. This is the only topic you have been discussing for the past 5 days. \nWhat happened?
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When I posted something about this earlier, I was met with .... what do you think?\n\n"Oh gosh, that's terrible!  I'll pray for him"\nor\n"I'm so embarrased.  I'm anxious to find out more about this.  What a hypocrite if it's true."\n\nhahahaha!\n\nNo!  I was met with "Hmmm!  Funny this should come out before the election!"  and "Atheists have gay sex too"
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I can guarantee that Pat Robertson is very disappointed (Again!) It must be those damned Gays that keep getting in the way of things....let's blame them for the world not ending.
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They can bring up scandal all they want - esentially saying, "Look, people in the church have sinned - it must be wrong"  So what?\n\nIt is a slippery slope and indeed cannot be from God.  For Pete's sake, their beliefs change daily!
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Did we miss the first part of this? I don't get the question.\n\n\nI am not Anglican, but I feel sorry for anyone who would not want to leave the church. A Bishop is supposed to be 'above reproach',  how can any so-called Christian church allow such a horrible abomination within the clergy. It makes no sense atol.
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You should instigate a torrid affair and then threaten to go public. Churches will pay huge amounts of money to avoid these sort of scandals.
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I'm so sick of staunch conservatives bringing up the Clinton scandal.  Almost every president we've ever had, had mistresses. Apparently there was a time when the media didn't feel the need to air dirty laundry. It is rather comical, however, that the same people lampooning morality and declaring gay marriage a sin often turn out to be a pedifiles and closet homosexuals.
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What about him?  Is he an evangelist?  I have nothing good to say about him!  He's a weasel.  OOOOOOHHHH, what a brainless jack-ss.  I can't imagine the Lord likes Him - it will surprise me if He does.   UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh, you know he did it. That's why he resigned. An innocent man would stay in and fight the good fight. Watch out for gay bashers, because they are usually gay bashing for a reason - ie, to keep people from looking at what they do.