Can Christians give me a list of crimes that justify little children being torn?
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Making fun of a bald prophet...\n\nHey, it's in the book...\n\nIsn't it interesting that a Buddhist can recognize a Biblical allusion while several Christians cannot?
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Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with a rod, he will not die. Punish him with a rod and save his soul from death.Proverbs 23:13-1 \n\nThese are proverbs written by Solomon.  He is saying discipline your child so they will know what is right and wrong.  Disciplining your child will not kill them, it will in fact save them from later mistakes.\n\n\nLet death take my enemies by surprise; let them go down alive to the grave, for evil finds lodging among them. Psalm 55:15 \nThis psalm was written by David, it was a song and prayer to the Lord.  There are more than 70 psalms attributed to David, at least 14 of them are connected with specific events of his life.  From them we see an outline of a growing relationship with God.\nsome events in Davids life:\nSaul sent men to his home to kill him\nrunning from saul\nhiding in a cave in Adullam\nlearning that doeg had murdered 85 priests and their famililies\nthe zephites betrayed him\nand the list goes on.\nThis is all recorded history.\n\nAmmom,Moab,EDOM, and Philistia although once united with Judah against Babylon, had abandoned Judah and rejoiced to see it's ruin.  But these nations were as sinful as Judah and would also feel the sting of God's judgement.  As seen in Ezekial 25:1-17.  Those are prophecies given to Ezekial.
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Good Lord. \nThe Old Testament was under the Law of Moses. As a christian today you should know that Jesus' death and resurrection removed us from the curse of the 'Law'. In the Old testament Israel was a fledgling nation. They were trying to seperate themselves from the 'pagans' Plus they were a lot less civilized than we are today. \nGod does not want you to kill your child, come on. If you truly believe that then you need psychological help and all your children should be removed from you care.
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An excellent list. And there isn't a christian that can deny the utter stupidity of the bible when presented with these outright contradictions.\nI mean, how can a "perfect" being's manifesto be so chock full of mistakes?
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The Bible definitely condones hitting your kid as a form of discipline.  \n\nSpare the rod and spoil the child.  It doesn't condone abuse however.  A loving parent will hit a child to teach him/her a lesson without causing real physical injury. Ever hear "this is gonna hurt me more than it's gonna hurt you."?  \n\nThat's the most important point here.  A loving parent should want to teach their child yet would never wish serious injury to their child.
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Mark 10:14 Suffer the little children to come unto me and forbid them not, for of such is the kingdom of God.15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. 16 And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them. \n\nMt 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.  \n\nMt 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.  \n\nMt 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. \n\nMr 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.  \n\nLu 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.  \n\n"Suffer the little children..." does not mean they are to suffer. It means nothing should get in the way of them coming to Him. \n\nBlame the faulty translation on King James English. \n\n.\n\n.
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Proverbs 20:11 "Even a Child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right." \n\nPsalms 58:3-5 "The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. \n\nRom 3.23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"\n\nDeuteronomy 1.39 (God said:) "Moreover your little ones and your children, who you say will be victims, who today have no knowledge of good and evil, they shall go in there; to them I will give it, and they shall possess it."\n\nProtestants believe the age of accountability usually begins at age seven, even though it is not in Scripture.\n\nJewish custom that a child becomes an adult at the age of 13.\nThis is the most common age given for the age of accountability. A child has passed the age of accountability once he or she is capable of making a faith decision for or against Christ.\n\n"The Bible tells us that even if an infant or child has not committed personal sin, all people including infants and children are guilty before God because of inherited and imputed sin. Inherited sin is that which is passed on from our parents. In Psalm 51:5, David wrote, "I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me." David recognized that even at conception, he was a sinner. The very sad fact that infants sometimes die demonstrates that even infants are impacted by Adam’s sin, since physical and spiritual death were the results of Adam's original sin."\n\nThe Age of Accountability as Defined by God\n\nGod's Bible says children are not fully capable of distinguishing between good and evil (Deu 1.39, Isa 7.16). \n\nNumbers 14.29 and Deuteronomy 1.39 establish the precedent that God will NOT hold children responsible when He brings judgment for sin. \n\nWhat is a "child?" By inference from Numbers 14.29, a "child" is a person who is aged 19 or younger. \n\nOne could conclude: "Only those persons age 20 and older are held accountable for sin. "
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http://www.gospellight.com/children/kidsontherock.html
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That is a hard one, especially coming from an 8 year old.\n\nAs a Catholic, we have the Sacrament of Reconciliation that allows us to confess our sins and have them forgiven.  However, there is one sin that can not be forgiven, and if that is committed then there is no hope for redemption, that sin is to turn your back on God, entirely.\n\nOnce condemned to Hell, there is no turning back, unfortunately.  It is hard to understand why a kind, loving God would do that, but it is based on the life that we live.\n\nJudgment day will dole out the punishment, but I do not believe that it is like a court of law where we have the opportunity to tell "our side" of the story, we are simply judged.\n\nI probably haven't helped much, and for that I am sorry.
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Church children's welfare services vary in different locations.\n\nCheck out local notice boards at public places like library. Also use your local yellow pages and ring the local churches. Do not be worried about making an enquiry, if that church does not run a service they may be able to guide you to one that does.\n\nAlternatively, i would suggest that you pop into your local connexions branch, they should have up to date information for numerous child welfare services, including church based ones.\n\nYour local council should also be able to help. Many have a children and families department with a one stop shop, again containing a wide range of information on child services and contacts for specialists involved. They may also produce a local council council newsletter with details of such services.\n\nHope this information is helpful.
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This is just one of many ideas that people can misuse.\n\nI believe that Christians are supposed to obey the laws of the land unless and until those laws contradict God's laws.  Currently there aren't any civil laws that fall under that category for me.  It's one of those hypotheticals.  This is the first case I've heard of that used that idea as a defense.\n\nI don't know enough about both sides to speak to whether he was justified or not.  The courts unfortunately, because they are so overloaded, often send children back into homes that are really still unfit.\n\nStill, based on what they showed on the segment I saw, he didn't seem justified to me.
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Children are not held accountable. and to those much is given much is required.  That is about knowledge also.  God loves, if you never knew and had no opportunity to hear, you are judged by your life, people sense right from wrong. Even a toddler who can't speak or really comprehend will get upset if you  wrong them, take a toy etc.  The bible can be taken out of context, but God id good. He wants us all to live with Him forever. To us who know, we are given the light, not to hide under a bush but to shine for all to see.  I agree that some "Christians" are judgmental, condemning they actually turn people away fro His grace goodness and love.  But to this They Will be made accountable also, I hope never to cause a child of His to die because i was a pompous judgmental sanctimonious person.  God is about love, mercy and forgiveness, without that NONE of us would be able to go, i as a true christian do not believe that i am better than anyone. i am a child of His like we all are.  I hope, pray that those who get "turned off" by some that call themselves Christians don't miss out on what God is really about.\n\n\n\nI cant respond to your em.  said that u havent verified your em address.  I have questions!!!
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It's obvious all this medication for all these so called "disorders" don't work because 5 year olds are controlling things. Your kid is sick alright, he was born with a sin nature. Ever wonder why babies cry when they don't get their way and are selfish as toddlers?  "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me(Psalm 51:5)". "Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him(Proverbs 22:15)". Years ago, when there was no such thing as A.D.D. etc, the parents were in control because they spanked their children, thereby teaching them that choices have consequences. "He who withholds his rod hates his son, but he who loves him disciplines him diligently(Proverbs 13:23)". "Do not hold back discipline from the child, Although you strike him with the rod, he will not die. You shall strike him with the rod and rescue his soul from Sheol(Proverbs 23:13-14)". If you don't whoop him, he will whoop you. One day he will probably be bigger than you and if you don't get him now, what will you do then? He will be an out of control adult who will be dealt with by society, but only much more harshly. So please, for his sake, yours, and the rest of the world's, raise him right!
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sadly your friend is the victom of a good christian upbringing! jesus brought the word of love and pease. man, invented a religion! in this religion a bunch of wackoos got together and dreamed up a lot of sick ideas and made them law. so for 2000 years people fearing eternal damnation have followed these sick laws. now that people have out grown the need for self punishment, a lot of these sick ideas are now criminal offences. for example, your freind was referring to the old addage, "spare the rod, spoil the child" this means you can beat the hell out of your children and feel good about it because," GOD demands it!"  now days, IT'S CALLED CHILD ABUSE!!  a hopfully  the bitch will get turned in and have to sit her ass in jail or at least have her kid taken away from her! don't you just love that old time religion?
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the Holocaust and Christianity.
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Christians pretended the war was "Holy" so they could feel justified in raping, pillaging, and murdering thousands of people.  Christians were no better than Hitler and should really be ashamed of themselves.  The Bible is often used to justify greed, murder, and all the terrible things Christians pretend to be against.
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''Keep in mind that there is NOTHING in this passage to suggest that the children were at any fault of anything.''\n\nactually, if you read before it, it's talking about the ''children of Jezebel''  but wait mike, didn't Jezebel like...die in the old testament?  that is correct.  well then how are THESE her children?  well, it's like ''the children of God'' or ''the children of satan.'' children in this context does not mean little ones, what it means is ''those who are following in the same teachings of'' Jezebel, who called herself a prophetess, but ate foods sacrificed to idols and enticed some of God's servants to commit adultery with her.  the church was about 40 years old now, and if you read after the verse quoted here, it talks about ''knowing the depths of satan.'' this is a pre-gnostic belief that one was free to engage  and explore the rituals/activities of satan, and participate in evil with the body without harming the spirit.