Are Christian so brainwashed that they can no longer follow basic reasoning?
831728
I'm not brainwashed. I am of my own will. You're brainwashed by the media into thinking a fish is your cousin and a monkey is your grandpa. And may I ask, why are you waisting all your points trying to take down Christianity? Jesus said, "The gates of Hell WILL NOT prevail against my Church." I'm sorry, but you lose.
846912
I don't think your mind is made up and I don't see this an attack on Christianity. You are perfectly entitled to ask this question and I see it as a serious one - well done, and thumbs up from me. Why are Christians soooooo insecure about their faith that they can't have it questionned? I'm agnostic and the reason for that is that I don't dismiss the idea of God entirely, I just think that too much dependency is on the Bible. But the Bible was written by a Man! and Man has a habit if distorting the Truth, sometimes unintentionally. Think of it this way: The Bible was written ina  different Age and different Language - neither of which we can fully comprehend. Supposing that the translations of the Bible got some words wrong and totally changed the Meaning of it? Think of the consequences - or look around you. Don't forget that doctrines are created by Man and not God ... and doctrines are Power. The Church has had that for a very long time ... but perhaps not for much longer.\n\nThanks for asking the question.
1133646
Simple people are afraid of what they don't know and don't understand. Isn't it so much easier to go to church and swallow down all that brainwashing that they feed them? \nOf course it is - it doesn't require thinking with their own heads, it doesn't require reading and learning and researching and making mistakes and developing themselves...\nThey just get taught a pretty story and told it is the only truth. What an ideal world, isn't it?! Too bad it's ot that simple. \n\nPeople have been deceived and brainwashed through centuries and millenia. We can't expect them to suddenly start thinking. Organised forms of religion have caused much too much damage by burning everyone who dared to ponder another side of truth...
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I haven't read other responses yet, but I don't want to forget anything, so I'm gonna rush into my response.\nYou brought up some great points.  I think the main fact that you brought up is that our (when I say "our" I'm speaking for Christian conservatives b/c I can) beliefs have progressed for the better.  When you grow from being a child to an adult, your views of the world change.  The same thing can be said for collective thought.  I think that's a GOOD thing though.  It shows that we're changing for the better in many ways.  Thanks for letting your readers see how far we've come.\nOUR opinions aren't the last word.  You've just shown that.  However, from a Christian perspective, God's word IS the last word.  It (and HE) doesn't change.  Of course you can say that the God of the OT was a big meanie and the God of the NT was way nicer, but that's another discussion altogether.  In this respect, it's not wrong to say that the rules haven't changed.  Our UNDERSTANDING of the rules have.  The more you learn, the more you realize you don't know.  Cliched, but oh so true.  \nThe people who used (some still do) the Bible as an excuse to hate and abuse people of different color were NOT actually Biblically based.  They misunderstood (or intentionally so) the whole tribes thing & took that to mean different races.  Again, they weren't actually Biblically based.  People who say homosexuality is wrong and use the Bible to support that belief aren't taking the Bible out of context (in my opinion).  \n\nI can't speak for the bigoted stuff you mentioned like wearing sheets & crusading.  That's not a part of Christianity.  It's a part of retardation (no offense to mentally challenged people).  \n\nLike I said, your point is a valid one.  Opinions have changed, and they probably will again.  That doesn't mean we should just all not have opinions for fear that they will change.  There ARE fundamental truths, so it's important to hold fast to them.
968239
brainwashed\n\n:> peace
1026902
I think i agree with you on this one, Christian should have more loves and understand for this kind of issue, they shouldn't condemn directly without knowing detail or why or give more understanding to the related people so at least they have time to learn or decide what they wish to do for both side.\n\nNo matter we accept or not, the world has changed...It didn't mean we do changed by the world, but we may need to learn how to balance ourselves so we can find the best possible way to help or cares about those that they are "different"!
39378
Yes, I agree. Most Christians are ignorant but most people in general are also. Maybe God has been laying this on your heart not in order to criticize them but for you to look deep inside yourself and see what you can do to help these Christians become less ignorant. (if they are truly Christians). Use your knowledge to help teach others. Sadly you will realize how heartbreaking this chore will be for you, but it sounds like you may already know this. Remember that God knows your heart and the teaching of His truths,wether accepted or not, always bring glory to God.
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Unfortunately religion has misled so many good God fearing people away from His original doctrine, which is layed out for us in the Bible.\nAlthough I attend a Baptist Church, it is up to me to study the bible every day, to ensure that the Church I attend is teaching the correct messages. Churches today have developed their own doctrine and rules, and have seriously fallen away from God's truth, because it became all about filling the seats in the church house, and bringing in more money into the offering plate. They pick and choose scriptures that they like, and completly ignore the rest. You have to accept the bible as a whole. you can't ask God to conform to your ways, by obeying just the scriptures you agree with. We are to conform to the laws of God and not the other way around. Follow God and go against the world. Forget about "religion" persay, and just be the Christian that God would be proud of. When I am asked about my religion, I Just say,"I am a Christian" and I follow God's rules the best way I can. Today's religion can de-rail the most faithful of Christians, if they are not committed to their daily bible study.
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That's the million dollar question isn't it.  In my experience, the people who don't have logical issues with their beliefs are believing in certain abstract aspects of the religion.  if you take any given part literally, your beliefs will come under attack all the time, because of different interpretations of that aspect.
183320
You are not wrong. But understand that Christianity is a religion based on fear.  Follow me or burn in hell for all eternity!  Believe or be damned!  It is been my experience that many Christian believers will not even listen to another religion's argument or concepts with anything other that complete disregard.  Brainwashing at birth.  Ask the majority of people why they follow there particular religion, the answer will most likely be that it is the only thing that they have ever known.  I only speak English because it is the only language my parents and peers ever spoke to me.  Most major religions believe in the same basic principles.  Be good and the end result will be good or better for you.  Don't let someone bully you into thinking their way.  Explore all religions and find the one that speaks to you.  There are millions of good people out there who do not believe in Jesus Christ - I find it hard to believe that they will feel the wrath of God because they have not accepted Jesus into their hearts.
127555
No but some christians do have the bible so far up there ass that they can see anything else. I am a christian but I do not believe in pushing my beliefs on someone else or got all irate about how someone else believes or acts. I am only responsible for myself and can only make decisions for myself.
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It's the way they are brainwashed to think by their church.
646101
People arent open minded about their religious beliefs because they have had their personal religion enforced into their brain as truth, not a belief ,since they were a child. They don't understand opposing viewpoints especially if they are older. Don't try to argue with someone whos closed minded about religious beliefs..You'll never win and you'll walk away angry. You can't change someones mind about something they feel is true. In their mind they don't feel its true they KNOW it. Its like trying to tell someone the sky is sometimes grey when they are positive that its always going to be blue. They won't listen.
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They have been brainwashed with the masses to belive that their beliefs are the only way. its sad really. i have some EX inlaws that will scream verses at you till their blue in the face trying to get you to agree with them. I like what a friend once told me_organized religion is for those who are afraid of going to hell and spirituality is for those who have already been there. I have no problem with any religion really. we all have our own beliefs and i will respect your religion for what it means to you and i expect you to respect my beliefs for what they are to me.If you want to go spread the word then please go spread it over there. I am not ignorant i already know what the word is and don't need another lesson and i will not debate religion with anybody cause that would take a life time.
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I agree with you. I'm a christian,but I really don't care what others believe,and the whole argument of who's right,and who's wrong is just stupid. No one is going to change others beliefs when it is something that is such a strong argument as religion.
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Anybody who is honest will admit that throughout their lifetime their beliefs change.  Only a child can honestly say, "my beliefs haven't change."  Only a child could think that they never will.\n\nLife teaches lessons.  If a person goes through their life and never learns anything new they become spiritually retarded.  They also become more vulnerable to deception.\n\nI cannot list all the things I have learned I was once wrong about.  There isn't enough bandwidth.\n\nI'm looking forward to finding out what I'm currently wrong about.  I embrace the learning process.  Doctrines and beliefs are human inventions and are flawed.
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I agree. Many times on this site, I'll see a good question, and then some well intentioned Christian say, "you just have to have faith," or "faith isn't about logic."  It's quite irritating.  I know I have so much to learn and am ignorant myself, but it seems like some people check their brains at the door when it comes to faith. God wants us to love him with all our minds as well.  \n\nRejecting worldy wisdom doesn't mean we're supposed to be ignorant.