why don't doctors whom perform partial birth abortions get put in prison for infanticide? besides legal reason
823968
Modern American law spends a LOT of time dancing on the head of a pin. There's legal killing, and then there's murder. The girl committed murder. And while the abortionist did essentially the same thing, our society has window-dressed it so that the child is not 'legally' a 'person' until the head pops out. Which is why they are so careful to make sure that doesn't happen. \n\nIt's all just sophistry, and it's not going to fool God. These people WILL answer for their crimes, eventually.
774253
There are a few other things that are hypocritical about abortion.  \n\nIf you have a tooth pulled, you have to get informed consent.  Little or none is needed to get an abortion.\n\nWe are not told how many women die from legal abortions but it is far more then most realize.  Often the real cause of death is covered up.\n\nSomeone dies in every abortion.  Often they are unborn women.  What about their rights in what should be the safest place for them...their mothers womb.\n\nThey are not informed on the possible and probably long term effects of abortion.  I have worked with dozens of women who have regretted having an abortion years after the fact.  \n\nThey often accuse men of demanding a baby be aborted simply to avoid paying for it but these same people scream bloody murder if the father tries to prevent his child from being murdered.
1102168
Totally, cause it is a life. That baby could have grown up to be a doctor, humanitarian, or scientist. Why is it that you get in trouble if you shoot a baby, but not if you vacuum up a baby or inject it with poison?
846104
Infanticide is often seen as a deviant act and is viewed as being committed only by certain cultures and by women of severe mental illness.  Postpartum can make a mother want to kill her son. A woman letting her son die might be a priority-oriented decision.  Some cultures practice the killing of gender-specific children because they hold having a male of higher importance than having a female, this priority is high enough for them to kill their children.  Another priority to some cultures might be sacrificing their children to their gods.  Some of these people actually believe that is an honor for their children to be sacrificed.  Also, dependencies can be a cause.  Any crazed addiction can cause you to sacrifice the things you really need for the things you think you need.  In cases outside of culture, it could be rational impulse from certain emotions.  The son may cause her great pain and pain when manifested often leads to anger.   She might not know how to deal with that anger or what he has done and acts impulsively and rationally towards him.  This could lead to the murder of someone you normally care for.  Sounds crazy but we all allow our emotions lead us to some sort of rational behavior at some point.  I do think any woman who does such a thing as killing her own offspring needs serious help.  It is a shame that such things happen.
100521
Because their thinking and their sympathies are twisted.  A baby has done nothing to harm anyone.  Rapists, child molestores and murderers have.  \n\nI think the people that think murderers should be kept alive should be the ones to pay all their living expenses.
175694
Abortion should not have been legalized back in 1973 or so, because it is murder.  God allows individuals and governments to make mistakes with their free will, so it HAS been legalized. Whether we like it or not, I don't think this law is going to go away. However, whatever else I think of President Bush, I am grateful he has put an end to the abominable practice known as "partial birth abortion". I think ANYONE knows THIS is murder.\nI find it amazing that the woman whom our abortion law was named after DID NOT HAVE AN ABORTION. She had her daughter, and both are Christian believers who speak out against abortion. \nHere is what the Word says: If two men are fighting and a "woman with child" is injured and loses the baby, the guilty person has committed a crime. (Exodus 21:22) So I ask you-what if people hurt that child ON PURPOSE?\nHere are some beautiful words: "You made all the delicate, inner parts of my body and knit me together in my mother's womb...You watched me as I was being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb. You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was recorded in your book. Every moment was laid out before a single day had passed. \nHow precious are your thoughts about me, O God! They are innumerable! I can't even count them...And when I wake up in the morning, you are still with me!" Psalm 139
430668
You cant force people to be responsible, not in a Democracy anyways. Alot of violent criminals have some degree of brain damage from being abused as children (shaken babies), or from being in so many fights. \nIts ironic. In Michigan, in order to be married, you have to take a Marriage class of some sort. But, anyone with a working set of sex organs can become a mother or father. China has restriction on having children, could such a thing work here, in America? In my favorite movie, Starship Troopers, a person who wants to have children has to get a license for it, but they have a global military socialism. We will have to continue to clean up other peoples bad choices for the fore-seeable future. \nAlot of people dont choose to have children. They choose to have sex, and someone winds up pregnant. When you cant afford new shoes you probably cant afford condoms either. What about abstinence? HA! How does that fit in the hip-hop culture that the next generation is getting into? \nImprisoning parents for their childrens' crimes? GREAT idea! We arent imprisoning enough people, lets find a way to crowd the system even more. Prison is such a great way to reform people...\nI think we should bring back corporal punishment. Like public humiliation could work on some criminals with a certain psychological make-up. In prison, he has to conform with thugs even worse than he is. He learns about how to perpetrate even bigger crimes and is a better educated criminal when he gets out. If he was put on public display that had a sign telling what he is guilty of and he had to see the disgusted looks of old ladies, young kids, and the general public, he might find reform within himself.
952931
Hell yes abortion should be illegal! It's murdering a human being, no matter how you look at it! A woman knows what causes her to become pregnant, and if she doesn't want a baby, she should stop being a  s l u t  and close her legs! I understand  there's issues with rape and what not, but you have a point, that's still a child, and it's not that child's fault that he/she is a product of rape. Adoption would be a great idea I would think for situations like that.\n\nIt would be bad for a doctor to take a newborn baby and strangle him or her to death or bash his or her head in on the floor wouldn't it? So what's the damn difference with an abortion, just because you can't see the baby yet, it means it's not a person? Anyone who supports abortion is a total idiot, they should support murder of every kind then if they don't want to be a hypocrite!
1169061
Do a search on murder rates of pregnant women.I'm pretty sure there is a seperate charge for the death of a fetus when the mother is murdered.Abortion is murder and should be treated the same.
811032
Most abortions occur at 6 weeks, where the embryo doesn't have brainwaves or cerebral cortex. It basically looks like a salamander. This is not a baby. However, if the woman completes the pregnancy, a child is born with all the complete developments and cerebral cortex. That is a child. It would cause irreversible psychological damage to the child if his/her dad doesn't want to see them. It will screw them up for life. You're pro-life, will you support a man's option for the woman to have an abortion? He can't force her. Your reasoning contradicts your beliefs in abortion.
538642
Abortion is not murder. Murder is the willful taking of one human's life by another human. Physiologically, a fetus is more like a salamander than a human, and I'm not big into the salamander rights campaign. Neurologically, the child isn't complete until it's a year old, so while it's still in the womb, it's certainly not a developed human. Christians claim to take truth from the bible, and the bible makes no reference to abortion or infanticide. In fact the closest thing to a reference is in Exodus 21:22 to the punishment if a man does violence to a pregnant woman causing her to lose the child, which is different from the punishment for murder as described in Exodus 21:12, which clearly indicates that the basis for popular religious thought for the Judeo-Christian-Muslim traditions did not intend for the killing of a fetus to be regarded as murder
296933
It's a way for them to extend religion into government.  Most denominations of Christianity, but especially Catholicism, do not allow ANY type of birth control, but especially not abortion.  The belief is that if you are going to have sex, God will make you have a baby if He wants you to have one.\n\nThey're brining it to make sure that no one can "play God" by killing a baby.\n\nThe saddest part is though, they want to make it so that abortion is only legal if the mother's life is in danger, not if she is pregnant from rape or incest.  I think that a girl who was raped or impregnated by incest does have her life in danger though, many commit suicide.  No women should EVER be asked to bring her attacker's baby into the world.  She'll walk around and get the stigma that she's a little slut, and that is just who the Conservatives believe that she is, so she gets more pain and humiliation on top of what she suffers already.\n\nIt's sad, isn't it?\n\nAnd no, it's not the baby's fault, but would you rather be hated and scorned or never born?
1110618
So do the "not yet born" have nothing in store for them if they should be born? What else should we do with those who would risk the "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" of the rest of us? We have a right to be free to try those things, don't we? I surely don't want someone infringing upon those rights. Do you? Prison isn't the only "solution" to crime. Sometimes the death penalty can be a deterrent.....but only *if* it's used. How the hell can someone be on Death Row for 15-20 years and waste our tax dollars so? If we utilize our court system to determine someone's guilt, isn't it just as wrong to put an "innocent" person in jail for a long time as it seems it is (to you) to execute them? We're still "playing God" by determining another human being's fate for the length of the sentence.\n\nAnd why is it some don't mind killing fetuses (who have wronged NO ONE) but want criminals (who have wronged SOMEONE) kept alive? That's a$$-backwards, isn't it?\n\n\n\n>>Do only those not yet breathing have the right to live?<<\n\nHow would you or any of us be here if the answer to that were "yes"?
692374
I'm with you. I've often wondered the exact same thing! Like with Lacy Peterson, or other murdered pregnant women. There's this huge uproar...Oh that poor baby...it was...murdered. Ok, so then why is it legal to go and voluntarily murder that baby? Is it ok because it kills only the baby, not you? Sad thing is, if abortion were made illeagel women would still do it, and possibly get themselves killed in the process. But, why? Is it worth it to you?? To be rid of this "burden" as you see it, at the risk of your own life? If people aborted every unplanned pregancy, a lot of us wouldn't be here. Look, it isn't a choice between aborting the child or becoming a mother. there's another option...adoption. Heck, they even have laws now saying you can just leave the baby at a hospital or fire station or other drop points with no questions asked, no reprecussions. There are thousands of loving families out there who want a baby so bad and adoption is the only way they can. You say you were raped or something? Well, two wrongs don't make a right. Murdering an innocent baby changes nothing. Now you have to deal with the rape and the guilt of knowing you murdered your own child. I'm sorry, nothing makes this right. JMO
1105373
1.) Not sure that they feel pain, if they did I would think it would kill them because they are so fragile \n2.)The child is alive when there is a heartbeat.\n3.)That is life, a heartbeat, we know that someone is dead if they have no pulse and are alive if they do right?.\n4.) I don't think it should be legal except in the case of rape (which by the way you should have gotten the morning after pill if you went to the doctor anyway) or if it will cause the mother to die. \n5-6.)Yes, murder is taking the life of someone else. If they have a heartbeat and you take it from them for your own personal gain then yes. it is murder. especially in the case of partial birth abortion. That is just brutal.\n 8.)The government does need a say because they need to make the law,\n7.) should men? That is a hard one. A lot of men want children so badly and the only way to have your own child is if a women carries it but should they be able to tell a woman not to have a child? Absolutely not. So since a woman has the right to say you are relinquished of all resposibilities to this child part of me says the father should have the same rights but it is the womans body unfortunatly.\n10.) I can't stand the idea of abortion because I love children so much and I see so many people using it as a form of birth control and saying that it is a womans choice... well they also had the choice to wear a condom, to take a form of birth control (both free at family planning) and also the choice to not have sex! This is where I justify rape victims as they didn't have a chance to choose but all the other already made thier choice. Now they want to choose death for thier child because they are too young!?! Well then maybe you are too young for sex too. \n\nHow it affects me? High blood pressure and tears on my pillow at night.\n\nDoes no one rember ADOPTION is a possibility!?! All this "well the child would be abused" crap or "I couldn't give it a good life because I was too young" is rediculous! There are women all over crying for a child every night...did you forget about them!?
224044
I'm a pro-choicer, but only because I feel a woman has a right to choose what she does with her body.  I do, however, think it's a disgusting practice when women wait till the baby is fully developed and they have to deliver the baby half-way and suck the brain out.  There should be a time limit.  If you haven't decided before the baby has a heart beat, I think you waited too long.  Even if they enact laws banning abortion, women will find ways of terminating the embryo or fetus without a doctor, so you might as well let abortion be legal.  Besides, why have one more person come into this world unloved and unwanted.
60749
bismillahir rahmanir raheem. \n\nI will answer this to the best of my ability and knowledge and Allah knows best. First of all, pre Islamic Arabs did not kill ALL of the girl infants otherwise there would have been no more Arabs. But female infanticide did exist and was generally an economic concern more than anything, and had nothing to do with "bad omens", it says in the Quran "Kill not your children for fear of want". Prophet Muhammad (SAW) put an end to that practice of female infanticide. \n\nBut to answer your question, there is no concensus today amongst learned people, male and female but the predominant opinion is that Abortion is not allowed unless a physician says it is necessary to save the life of the mother. This is because our lives and bodies are not our own. They are gifts to us from our creator and only our creator has the right to take them away. But while we have them they are in our care and we are responsible for that. For instance, smoking has been shown to be harmful and the concensus opinion is that it is not allowed because of that. Taking a human life is the ultimate action in this way and it includes the taking of the human life that is growing in the mother's womb. Children also are considered to be a gift from Allah (SWT) and we are not allowed to kill them before or after they leave the mother's womb. \n\nA second, minority opinion, says that since the soul does not enter the body until 40 days after conception therefore abortion is legal for the first 40 days. This opinion is an extreme minority.\n\nSalim