Friends against the ACLU, want to hear a church vs. state solution?
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how are businesses going to be run, when the majority of workers are Christian?\n\nlet's say hypothetically I was an athiest... and the day was a religious holiday... almost everyone in my office including my boss is Christian... so, I would have no boss and in fact, my job requires more than one or two people, so I couldn't even work... \n\nbut, I guess I could come in and just play around all day on the clock? but who would even be there to know that I showed up?
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Of course I'm appalled... but that's the ACLU.  Their origins were sound and reasonable... but they have crossed into areas that are amusing/appalling !!\n\nThe ACLU will defend anyones right to their interpretation of "free-speech":  the Klan, White Supremicists, Islamic Terrorists...\n\nThen again... it's nice to have a counter to the Religious Right who wish to ban: Harry Potter books, Catcher in the Rye, etc.
819560
I asked a fellow attorney today if the ACLU would be defending that father of 5 out in CO who got ratted out on by the drug-dealing prostitute.  \n\nInterestingly, he dissed the ACLU (a first), so I think the DNC is distancing themselves...
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I think shrty0525 is trying to protest the ACLU for helping picket soldier's funerals. I don't think an e-mail will help because they can filter the e-mails. The best is to have Law Makers passing laws on picketing any service personnel's funeral just out of respect for the family who needs to mourn.
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No we shouldn't.  But unfortunately in the times we live in there is to much religious sway.  Look at the supreme court.  Luckily the ACLU is involved and the woman will recieve legal counsel and wont have to pay out the rear end.  Its also good that the media, well one at least, is picking this up.  I'm sure other will be outraged.  Her rights have certainly been trampled on.  Not only in the fact that the reasoning behind the case is a mess, but the fact they had a court hearing without giving her due notice and while she is out of state is illegal.  \n\nThis is messed up on so many levels, all my positive energy and thoughts go out to this woman.  I'm sure justice will be done for this woman as more than one of her rights have been trampled on.  The right people have gotten involved anyway.  This is dispicable.
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I disagree that a better idea would be to not show up, give a high estimate, or claim to be overbooked.  As odious as the landscaper's response was, at least they were honest.  Also this way both sides got a huge audience to hear their arguments.\n\nFrom what I know of my conservative Christian friends, Garden Guy might have been trying to "witness" to the couple in their own misguided way, thinking that if they enclosed a few Bible verses and told them why they wouldn't take their business, the couple would see the light, become Christians (assuming they aren't already Christians), and thank Garden Guy for showing them the way.\n\nWhy is discrimination a political issue?  I guess I'm naive, but is there a certain political party that is pro-discrimination? (And what is the euphemism the party uses as a substitute for that phrase, so they don't sound like prejudicial, judgmental people?)  If there is a political party that is generally supportive of this kind of behavior, why on earth are we tolerating that?  It saddens me that anyone wishing to join that political party because of views on economics, defense, etc., has to "sign on" to this other group of beliefs that seem to support discrimination and other unacceptable policies.\n\nThere should be no question or ambiguity that this action is overt discrimination.  I have faith that God will call people forward to change things in this country, and that one day, hopefully not too long from now, equal opportunity and equal treatment will be ensured via a Constitutional amendment.  \n\nAnd though it might be a harder, slower fight, I have faith that someday Christian churches will see their error and accept and love people who are gay.
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I would bet that our "freedom loving" ACLU is in on it, but I'm not sure.  It sounds like the ACLU.\n\nSue the Boy Scouts.  Defend NAMBLA.  Sue ROTC.  Kick God out of the public square.  Kick God out of education.\n\nBlame Christians for the demise of the US.
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How come they are not protecting the CHRISTIAN RIGHT???  We as Christian have rights too...but they want to rip them apart!  Tired of the DOUBLE STANDARDS!!!  Can we sue them?
870724
Perhaps you're referring to the ACLU (American Civil LibertiesUnion)?
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PAT ROBERTSON UNIVERSITY! - Nah - I couldn't wish that one on my worst enemy.    The fact of the matter is, Christians should NOT get too deeply involved in the political process except Voting, and of that only because it is a right they may exercise in a free society.., actualy it's *supposed* to be free society.., what with the ACLU's bias leaning toward Islam over Christianity.
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When hate-mongering 'christian' bigots stop campaigning against basic equal rights.  \nWhen you, and others like you, start demanding that your representatives remove all barriers to two people in love being able to marry.\nWhen New York upholds the founding principle of the separation of church and state this country was founded on.\n\nIn short, hopefully soon!  :o)
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Christian bashing has become the liberals perferred past time.  Exactly WHY they have been allowed to get away with it it beyond my comprehension.  You are SO right that if it were ANY other group being treated that way the country would rise up in righteous indignation.\nWe, as Christians, need to rise up and assert our rights, and I am not advocating anything violent.The rights we have lost include  the right to freedom of religion and freedom of speech, and right to assemble.\nI think, in all honesty, it began with Madelyn Murray O'Hare achieving her goal of removing prayer from schools.  That was the beginning of the snowball effect.  From that point, the rights of Christians have slowly been taken away.\nWhy have we allowed this to happen?
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in what state do they allow this?\nif what you say is true,then stand up for what you believe in...take your Bible to school,spread His word and when they try and stop you sue the entire school system!\nbut make sure to have all the things you have mentioned documented and find a Christian lawyer!\nAND GET THE PRESS INVOLVED AS SOON AS YOU DO THIS...MAYBE THIS IS A CALLING FROM HIM,AND MAYBE YOU COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE!\nPRAY ON IT
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I for one totally agree. It a legal issue more than a religious one, in my book. But, you know the christers have to have a cause...They don't want abortion so that the kids can grow up and join thier cult. I wish they'd take it somewhere else.
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Nice Article...Interesting....Yea the ACLU is the bomb.....I Have actually filed 2 reports on behalf of clients with them within the last 2 weeks ... but.... what I find more interesting is the fact that RACISM leaves such a void where one's brain should be
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Have you been drug from your house at gunpoint ?  When was the last time a car bomb exploded on your street ?  Let me tell you something about the American way we have to fight for liberty like any other country fights for liberty.  As for justice there is a court in place and you can plead your case.  What is it  they wouldn't let you read a "smut" mag in a open cafe ?  Call the ACLU they got your back or is it they won't let prayer in a classroom call Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter or Hannity and Colmes they got your back.   It's called process engage it and  stick are you really don't know how justice and freedom is birthed.  Just complain that's new and  as unique as Paris  Hilton's porn film.
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The Founders did not intend a complete "separation of church and state."\n\nTheir concern was the state actively promoting or supporting one religion over the other. There is nothing close to this in the USA.\n\nThe ACLU and other groups, thru mountains of unnecessary litigation, have completely misread the Establish Clause of the First Amendment.  The mere mention of "God" for example, hardly favors one religion over the other. \n\nJefferson's phrase "separation of Church and State" was written to a group of Baptists to assure them that they would be free to practice as they wished. It appears no where in the Constitution.\n\nToday, however, this pseudo legal doctrine has been used as a sword to destroy even the most benign religious expression on public property. We are much poorer for it.