who stilll thinks george W bush got into the war to liberate iraq?
816312
GW went to war to try and finish the job his chickenshit father didn't do in the early 90's. They both don't have a clue!!!
1121515
I am totally against the war, however, people who join our military go in knowing that even if it's not necessarily a war they would back, they have comitted to doing their job.  I might also say that no matter what war or why - they have my absolute respect for being a part of a bigger picture that may cause them great harm or even death.  I salute all of them.  Bush, however, can kiss my flabbly butt.
487083
The Iraq war is a complete waste of time for the U.S.   I thought the objective was to catch Bin Laden and the terrorists after 9/11.  Apparently not.   Bin Laden still resides in Afghanistan or Pakistan, but certainly not in Iraq.\n\nBin Laden still runs free while we are left holding the bag to pay for nation rebuilding out of our own pockets.  While a noble thing, it's not the objective.  If we were all about creating democracy, we'd have invaded North Korea in the 50 years or so that it's been the most horrific dictatorship in the free world.  It was about protecting oil and going after Daddy's nemesis.\n\nMeanwhile, our poor troops patrol Iraq while lunatics take potshots at them, many on their 3RD tour of duty, ridiculous.  No, these aren't "insurgents", these are Iraqi's who don't want us there, and will never give in since they have lost power and are a minority.  Would you give up your guns if you knew you would be killed and/or put down into the dregs of society?  We are trying to "fix" a country that has thousands of years of issues that we cannot possibly be successful in curing.\n\nEven Bush's daddy knew Iraq should not have been occupied. Read it for yourself, like Karnac, Bush Sr. predicted what would happen if we invaded.  Jr. fell into the trap.  http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3019.htm\nThis is the time article extracted from Bush/Scowcroft book.\n\nSo there you have it, a useless war so far from the objective of catching the terrorists it might as well be in the wrong country, uh, oh yeah, it is.  I wonder how the families of the victims of 9/11 like Dubya?  \n\n"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." - GW Bush, 9/13/01\n\nReal important.  Yeah, ok.
544357
NO, and thats why Bush is still there!!
1138443
YOU are correct..bush...like his father, is a war-monger!  Bush thinks he is above the law, he has forgotten that it was american citizens (59 million jackasses that is) who put him there...oh, wait a minute....Jeb Bush helped put him there...that's right!  Anyway...Bush has no conscience, no idea what a front line is like...the horrorr of war, the physical and psychological consequences our soldiers will have to endure long after leaving IRAQ...IT's all about MONEY!!!!!!!!!! (OIL=Money).  Therefore American lives are not important...they weren't important to him in New Orleans, and they are not important to him in IRAQ!
1127212
No, not at all. \n\nAs early as summer of 2000, I was taking bets on when --- not if, when --- GWB would get us involved in a mid-east war (provided he secured the presidency, of course). Giving the military to George W Bush was like giving a hammer to a three year old. Suddenly everything looks like a nail.\n\nThere were so many other options available this evil man chose to ignore those other options in his rush to war. He has deliberately and dishonorably sacrificed the lives of our sons and daughters to his pride and ambition.
850626
I agree with you.  Bush has never given a hoot about his ratings like a certain former president (wont say who, but his name starts with a "C" and rhymes with Flinton).  That's why we have stayed in the war as long as we have.  It's not over yet, we haven't won yet, we shouldn't pull the troops out.  When Dems got control of Congress I saw this coming.  They're probably going to send the troops home on a rinky dink little plane, then have Bin Ladin fly his terrorists here first class.  Good Lord, this is a bad, baaaaaaaaaad idea.
1052932
That's tough, because while I do support the idea this country is based on, I see how farther and farther we are drifting from that ideal.\n\nBut as far as this war?? It's been known from the beginning, whether people want to admit it or not (due to blind following) that this war was started with word games. There were no WMD and they knew that because their top spy there told them so. And then they conveniently brought him up on charges when he came public with that information. Was Bin Laden in Iraq, yes. But he left long before we got there. The administration in power (and I'm not saying Bush was the mastermind) wanted to ease the peoples minds by starting a war, any war. This also brought the country together while dividing it at the same time.\n\nBut this quote could be taken out of context. We really should hear the whole quote before making a decision about it.
14666
If you want my honest opinion the US is in too deep to pull out in the near future.  I don't think we should have invaded Iraq at all.  If we had wanted to take care of Saddam we should have done it back during the Gulf War but George Bush Sr. was too much of a...yeah anyway, the future of Iraq is occupation by US led coalition forces.
136142
It is a widely held believe that Bush was pushing for the Iraq war well before 9-11. \n\nThe British are all over a story that has not touched down in the US. See link below.  Bush and Blair discussed painting US aircraft to look like UN planes and fly them over Iraq baiting Saddam to fire at them.\n\nBush was prepared to lie about this. Blair committed troops to Bush plans in January 2003 based on cheap stunts like that.\n\nThere are 100 other reasons to believe that Bush has a secret agenda, if you will a conspiracy.\n\nCheck Bush´s pal Scooter who was arrested for his actions to get us to war with Iraq.\n\nBTW, I dont remember a time when any vice-president has played as big a role as this executive of Haliburton.  By the way of the total dollars spent in Iraq how many have gone to Dick´s company?\n\nSorry that I don´t seem to have an opinion on this!!!
13816
I think that Iraq was on Mr. Bush's mind the day he took office.  On day one he put a target on Saddam's head and was ready to use any excuse to finish his daddy's job.\n\nHis father, however, knew the consequeces of a march on Bahgdad.  That is why we stopped short of Saddam in 91, we had a clean victory and Sr. quit while he was ahead.\n\nJr., however, wanted blood.  He was convinced that Saddam would one day become the next great tyrant.  Like Johnson in 64, Bush was ready to pounce at the first sign of any agression.  The perfect reason to declare open-ended war fell into his lap on an early september monday morning.\n\nIt has been reported that just hours after the planes hit Bush was heard asking his advisors if Iraq was involved.  He was asking very leading questions of his advisors, including donald rumsfeld, who both wanted to pin 9/11 on Saddam before the towers even hit the ground.\n\nBut some would say they were smart, they went for the easy win first.  They needed to prove to the public that America could lead a successful nation-building war.  Of course I wouldn't call Afghanistan rebuilt when 95% of their economy is from the sale of opiates (I am against prohibition, but Bush isn't).  Even today, after the supposed elections and overthrow of the taliban, the only way an afghan woman can make any kind of living is to work in the opium fields.\n\nWe all saw the buildup for war.  He and his messengers (condie, rumsfeld, right wing puppet congressmen) had us all believing that we were about to be nuked.  The sad thing is that the public at large bought right into it.  I must say he even got me wondering just what Mr. Saddam had up his sleeve.  I suppose that's why I was rather exited to watch the war on tv, I just wanted to see what this guy had.  I watched the sabre rattling in the weeks leading up to 'shock and awe'.  It was entertaining to watch these two morons square off.  I thought Saddam would have had more of a back bone though.  I expected to see a tienemen square scecne in Bahgdad, but right away I could tell once we entered the capitol that something was wrong.\n\nIf Bush had been right, I have no doubt that Saddam would have used those weapons on American soldiers.  But they never existed.  Just like the second attack at the gulf of Tonkin.  It never happened.  LBJ however did not lie himself, rather his advisors lied to him.  True, Johnson was willing and ready to pounce should a tit-for-tat oppertunity present itself.  He believed the second attack on a stranded US cruiser was just such an oppertunity.  His advisors knew of his willingness to decalre war and fed him intel that would lead him in that direction.  LBJ wanted to look strong on defence and strong against communism going into a tough 1964 election.  He knew that he would be judged to the standard of 'what would JFK have done?' in the public eye.  Once he had blindly acceped the attack as truth and declared war, it wasn't long before the conflict spiraled out of his control.  "For all I know, they're shooting at whales" Johnson said the next year about the war that was now out of his control.\n\nThe rhetoric leading upto Iraq was different.  The intel was 'misread' by everyone in the aministration, so either everyone is lieing or everyone is that dumb.  I think they were seeing what they wanted to see.  As soon as any intel came accross that would give a glimmer of hope to uniting the country behind a war surfaced, they took it as fact because they wanted to.  It suited their political end.\n\nI believe that this intel was also pressured out of the cia and nsa from the white house.  Bush pushed so hard for 'actionable intel' that people eventually told him what he wanted to hear.  This still continues as they try to quell the uprising.  The president is so desperate for information on both insurgents and al-queida (sp?) that he is willing to turn his back on the rest of
201612
There's not really a way out now that he's involved the U.S. in a country we have no business invading.  If we suddenly pull out, there'd be chaos.  Since he thought there was WMD, it gave him credibility to attack, but now as it turns out, he and his administration were DEAD WRONG.  I think it's all a big conspiracy myself in that it's a fight re: oil and he's continuing what his pop started when he was in office.  Bush is a complete idiot and has no business being the president.  He has failed us time and time again (Iraq; Hurricane Katrina; running up the deficit; etc.)  The man deserves to be impeached.
912228
Bush needed to appear to be proactive and doing something to avenge the 3000 who died on 9/11. He could have declared war on walmart, called it a righeous holy war, and the ignorant nabobs would have gotten behind THAT too.\n\nIt was face-saving P.R., nothing more. There's no dumber person than the one who says we are in Iraq to contain terrorism, for freedom or over 9/11. Those who say these things don't have a dreaming clue of what the reality of the situation is.\n\nThe Iraqi people rightly want an end to the rampant random slaughter of hundreds of thousands of their fellow countrymen that has ensued in the chaos after the American invasion destroyed social order and infrastructure, without replacing it with anything.
1179634
In my opinion the search for Bin Laden was justifiable after the tower attacks.  But going into Iraq to so called free the country and derstroy the weopons of mass destruction was bullshit.  The only reason we are in Iraq is for the oil.  Our occupation of Iraq should have been over a long time ago.  And increasing the budget to continue where we no longer belong is also bullshit.  Bush is running the country into the ground,  why don't we take care of our own country first before everyone else's.  We have people starving and living in the streets and he takes 8 billion dollars to keep our friends and family fighting his own personal war that his father didn't finish.  It is time for him to go!  We need someone who will take care of his own first.
964137
George is still not happy that he didn't take over Iraq like his dad failed to do as well.  He basically said on the day he was sworn in that he would complete his dad's undone task in Iraq - and amazingly as soon as we were attacked (not by Iraq) - he immediately went to Saddam.  I think he would've gone after him if it were anyone's fault - It could've been the Japanese and he'd have blamed Saddam.
1139307
First of all we did not take over Iraq.  Iraq has its own government (Thanks to the USA) and they make their own rules and laws. We are their to keep the county from falling apart.  You are right about it not being about 9/11, it is for other reasons.  Iraq is the country the took over another country when it invaded Kuwit in the early 90's.  After we kicked them out they have broken over 20 UN resolutions which were put on them by the whole wrold not just the USA.  They consistaly shot missiles at our planes which were patroling their airspace (if thats not an act of war then I dont know what is).  They have used WMD's and would refuse to let weapons inspector into there country. Us going into Iraq was voted on by our congress and by the UN secerity counsle, both of which agreed that Saddam needed to go.  And for your "Bush is a oil hungry Mad-man" comment.  We have not taken one drop of oil from the Iraqi people that oil belongs to them. If you want proof of that just look at the gas prices.
886627
I truly believed that we went into Iraq because the intelligence information said that wmd's were present and we wanted to stop it.  Also, I think the threat to our oil supply was an issue (unstated).  Additionally, we just had to hit someone, after 9/11.\n\nBy going into Iraq, we have bought some peace time on our soil.  We have disrupted the Islamic terrorists by our presence in the area and by capturing/killing some leaders of the movement.  We also have a base camp in the middle of this messy part of the world and will probably keep it, even if most troops withdraw.\n\nIf we had not gone into Iraq, I think that we would have had more terrorist acts in the US by now.  History will have to determine if it was worthwhile or not.  \n\nGood question.