John Kerry's comment: Botched joke? or Bad joke?
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To shelly and the one who posted just before (Or is it after?) her (The one who posted no name)... I don't see information here from you. I see the talking points of the left. \n\nFirstly, the Iraqi war is not illegal. It was fully supported by numerous resolutions including res. 1441. In addition, NO country should need to ask the corrupt United Nations to defend itself from a maniacle dictator, nor to free 25,000,000 people from a dictator's grasp. \n\nSecondly, NO ONE in this country, either in the administration or in the armed services of this nation support torture. There is quite a difference between that and strong interrogation techniques.\n\nThirdly, anonymous, I resent your statement about people of conscience not fighting in Iraq. I, sir, have family in Iraq, in addition to over 140,000 young men and women who have volunteered to serve this country in its time of need. You dishonor them with your words, and I think you owe an appology.\n\nShelly,\nI know that Bush is not a great orrator. No one denies that. However, considering that he graduated with two degrees, one from Harvard, and one from Yale, I find it a bit unfounded for you to call his intelligence into question, ESPECIALLY considering that he graduated with slightly BETTER grades than 2004 challenger, demoncrat John Kerry.\n\nIn addition, it is the leaders of the left in this country who have demeaned our troops from the beginning. \n\nJohn Murtha, without waiting for investigations to be complete and without giving our men and women in uniform the benifit of a trial accused them of, "murdering innocent civilians in cold blood."\n\nJohn Kerry has accused our men and women in uniform of "sneaking into homes in the dead of night and terrorizing women and children..."\n\nCharlie Rangle, the would-be speaker of the house weighs and means commitee has vowed to cut off funding for our troops fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.\n\nI have more examples, but for now, I'll let you chew on those.\n\nNow, let me get back to the question at hand. To me, it does not matter one bit whether it was a botched joke or not. The fact is it came out as an insult to our men and women in uniform. And instead of doing what he SHOULD have done and appologizing for the offense it caused our troops, John Kerry came out and ARROGENTLY said that he appologizes to NO ONE. Then he went back to the tried and tired democratic talking points saying that, "Bush should appologize" to our troops... Talk about a childish remark.\n\nEdit: Grist,\nIf the left is supposedly in support of our troops, why have they worked to undermine this war effort from day one? Why do the left-wing leaders in congress criticize them, accuse them, without benifit of trial or even an investigation? \n\nMark,\nJohn Kerry has worked to undermine the military from thirty years ago. \n\nDon't forget, this is, again the guy who accused our men and women in uniform of sneaking into homes in the dead of night and terrorizing women and children. This is the guy who, while criticizing the president for not putting forth enough funding has said, "I voted for the eighty seven billion... Before I voted against it..."
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funny but as per his usual reaction to saying something stupid he of course flip-flopped and said what he meant to say was bush was stupid and uneducated (didn't bush go to Yale and actually got better grades than Kerry !) i guess with Kerry and Edwards we have to be mind readers too and guess at what they might mean...scary thought to have to get inside those two brains.
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Kerry was giving a campaign talk to students for the losing candidate in California, Phil Angelides, when he said that if you paid attention and got good grades you could be a success and, if you didn't, you'd get stuck in Iraq. Everyone took that as a backhanded swipe at the troops indicating that they're stupid.\n\nKerry tried to state that he was making a joke and he flubbed it and people took it the wrong way. So I guess that he figures that people are stupid too. Then he refused to apologise. Then he apologised because people took his joke the wrong way.\n\nPersonally, I think he said what he said and given that he's done nothing but trash mouth the military for years, he meant it just the way he said it.
762522
Sorry, but I have to disagree with you.  Kerry said what he said.  It was not taken out of context, he was not talking about Bush, not was it a joke.\n\nKerry has spoken and acted against the military since he lied during his testimony to the Senate.  he has consistantly voted against the military and against all legislation that favors not just the military but soldiers as well.\n\nKerry believes he is above the common soldier and has proven he thinks that time and again.
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Those of you who accused this joke teller of being a twat and racist read all the writing if you're able. He did say it was a joke. Also look at Al V's response....\nI wish you lot woul lighten up...after all let's have a laugh before the buggers blow us up.
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Kerry just wrecked his political career. He doesn't deserve to be commander-in-chief with that kind of an attitude. The funniest remark about Kerry's remark was made by Dick Cheney.  "I guess we didn't get the nuance. Actually, he was for the joke before he was against it."
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:o\nis this a tricky joke?lmao->
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From what I have heard, most definitely.\n\nKerry was not "joking." He was at a forum on education, discussing education, and advocating education.\n\nAccording to Kerry, if you LACK education, you get "stuck" in Iraq. \n\nSo I guess people in the military aren't much for schooling.\n\nDoesn't sound like a "JOKE" to me.\n\nDid the media give Rush Limbaugh the benefit of the doubt last week? Of course not. Didn't matter that he was just pointing out Fox's duplicity.
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It's not a hoax. I googled this quote and got 31,300 hits.\nThe comedians have been having a ball.\n\nI am me and Rummy's he, Iraq is free and we are all together\nSee the world run when Dick shoots his gun, see how I lie\nI'm Lying... \n\nActually Bush and his followers are still blaming his failures on Clinton.
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He made a comment that, after he was finished botching it, came out as "if you can't get a college education, you end up in Iraq" (paraphrased from memory).  My question is, liberals say Bush is such a bad speaker, where does this put Kerry?  Bush never managed to botch a line NEARLY that badly.  Kerry is an idiot, undeserving of any attention.
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the joke is pretty dirty. so go to this website\n\nhttp://www.dirtyjokesinc.com/joke-dirty_jokes-14479.htm
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It is true, many recruits go to the military instead of college. But Kerry's statement implies more than just that.\n\nKerry's "joke" implied that people in the military are the ones who didn't study, who didn't work hard, and who didn't try to be smart. Basically, he implied that the military is the dumping ground or the graveyard of young failures; that it's where you get "stuck" if you don't do the right things. That is NOT true.\n\nThere are a lot of reasons a person might CHOOSE to go to the military instead of college. They may be very smart, but not have an interest in higher education at that point in their life. They may be joining the military to PAY for college. They may have interrupted their education because they felt the need to serve their country in a time of war. \n\nI've served in the military, and I'll be the first to admit that a lot of losers will try to join to get a guaranteed paycheck and a place to live. But they do not represent the majority of the men and women serving in the Armed Forces, as Kerry's "joke" implied.
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Okay, I had a really good and well thought answer to this- then I saw where someone said that Democrats are rational and have vision- and I started laughing so hard I forgot what the hell it was.\n\nOh well, if I can stop laughing before you resolve this one, maybe I'll remember what I was going to say in the first place.
968101
Is this a poor joke, or are you that poorly educated?
915859
John Kerry is the "botched joke" of American politics. For those of you keeping score at home, John Kerry has now called members of the U.S. military (a) stupid, (b) crazy, (c) murderers, (d) rapists, (e) terrorizers of Iraqi women and children. I wonder what he'll call them tomorrow. Whatever Karl Rove is paying John Kerry to say stupid things, it's worth every penny.
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I've read the transcript of the speech and I do NOT believe it was a joke.  Nothing about what he was saying referred to Bush or the White House.  It was a direct comment at the military.  For those who do think it was a joke, I suggest you read it in full content.\n\nKerry has made it clear for years that he doesn't like or respect the military.  This isn't the first time that he's lashed out at them.  We all know that his military career was a hoax, to say the least.  He nominated himself for awards so he could get out of Vietnam and have a future in politics.  So far, the only people falling for it are the people that believe comments like he made are a joke.\n\nWe don't know anyone that laughed at his comment.  However, we can all appreciate the joke the soldiers made in reply to it.  Awesome comeback by our troops!!
775956
Come on...We both know it wasn't ever even meant to be a joke.  You are far too smart to believe otherwise.\n\nBut to answer your question,  The GOP should capitalize on Kerry's inability to admit when he makes an err.