Muslims: Explain to me what the Jews were doing 1500 BC?
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as a Jew I can tell you the entire concept of a blood atonement was an an invention of the Christian church.
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As a subject nation, Judea was not allowed to have their own army.  It wouild be the Roman legion or nothing.  Most likely nothing. As a rabbi he would seek a religious exemption.
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Passover is coming.  That is where the Jews eat unlevened bread.  It's called Matzoh.  You can find boxes of it in any chain market.  It comes in large squares and is wavy like ruffles potato chips.\n\nForget all those other suggestions, they are not correct or authentic.\n\nI think 'BC' near the bottom reads more superficially than anyone here.  How can he quote a bib;e written by order of a king 1500 years after the event.\n\n\nTry and remember that Jews know their scrptures from the Jewish bible better than anyone else.  Jews were always taught to read so they could understabd the bible.  Gentiles at that time (which includes converts to Christianity) were never schooled, and had to be told what the writings said.  Gentiles did not have the education to think for themselves.  Sorry, guys, but these are the facts!\n\nTry to remmember that just because you find it on the Internet does not make it the truth!
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It goes back to the beginnings of Islam.  Jews living on the Arabian penisula helped Muhammed initially, and when they refused to convert to Islam, Muhammed had a hissy-fit and slaughtered the lot of them.  since then, Islam has preached that Jews are sub-human and worthy only of death.
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Hi captain, I have got some thing for you which goes down to early history.\n\n" Charles only spared the lives of those Saracens[Muslims] who consented to be baptised, the rest he put to the sword."--[History of Charles the Great and Orlando, by Turpin, Vol-I, ch-ii, pg-5]\n\n"....460 years later, when the Holy land reverted to the Christian rule of crusading knight of Europe, the oriental Christians regretted the tolerating Govt. of the Arabian Khalifs."--[Rise and Fall of Roman Empire- GIBBON]\n\n"....A bloody sacrifies was offered by mistaken votaries to the God of the Christian resistance might provoke, but neither sage nor sex could mollify, thier implacable rage, they indulged themselves 3 days in a promisenous massacre. After 70,000 muslims had been put to the sword and the harmless JEWS had been burned in thier Synogogue, they could still reserve a multitude of captives whom interest or lassitude persauded them to spare."--[Rise and Fall of Roman Empire- GIBBON]\n\nThe critical Gibbon coclusively proves that, "...to his Christian subjects, Mohammad readily granted security of thier persons, the freedom of thier trade, the property of thier goods and the toleration of thier worship. This profitable principle of toleration was observed with more or less strictness, not only by all the immediate successors of the Prophet, but over the whole period of Arabic ascendency."--[Rise and Fall of Roman Empire- GIBBON] \n\nOn the other hand..........\n\n"....when Jerusalem capitulated to Khalif Omer, the inhabitants of the vanquished city were left in possesion of thier worldly goods, and allowed the freedom of worship. A special quarter of the city was allotted for the residence of Christian population with thier Patriarch and his clergy."--\n[Rise and Fall of Roman Empire- GIBBON]\n\n"....And Islam was tolerant not simply to the Jews but also to the Christians. The Christian church in muslim Spain was given large lands and considerable revenues, christian envoys were recieved with courtesy and allowed to take away relics of christian saints and martyrs from the muslim territory. GIBBON says in his Decline and Fall [of Roman Empire], that muslim rulers even transcribed an Arabic version of the canons of the councils of Spain for the use of BISHOPS in the Moorish kingdom. Haroon al-Rashid, the hero of the "Arabian Nights", planted in his kingdom a large number of schools, the head of these schools, his Director of Education, was a chritian named John."--[ The Spirit and Struggle of Islam by Prof. T.L.Vaswani, Ganesh & Co., Madras-1921]\n\nYou can judge it yourself as to whether muslims inflicted more violence or the Christians ? \n\nAnd you know about modern history and who is responsible for killing lacs of people in Hiroshoma and Nagasaki, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan..
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Their temple was destroyed in 70 AD. No temple, no sacrifice. Their is a group of Jewish leaders in Israel whom have decided if the Temple was ever rebuilt, not to re-establish animal sacrifices.
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The area around where this happened was divided into different ethinic groups and actually seperate countries, & the Jews where not the majority at all. So the Swine probably belonged to some Greeks or others. However it is more then likely that the whole story is an allegory and bull$hit. Surely an intelligent talented pig like yourself does not believe in demons or miracles and are aware the Bible is 90% lies, and as a pig you know you have a strong sense of self preservation. There is no such thing as Kosher bacon either.
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hold on... i've seen places where you can read some midrashim online... gotta find it though\n\nhere:\nhttp://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/tmm/index.htm\n\napparently adam and chava looked 20 when they were created :)
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The Jewish faith underwent considerable reforms about 2000 to 1500 years ago in which it was decided that animal sacrifices were no longer required, possibly because there is no Temple to sacrifice them in but also because the Jewish people were forced by the Romans to leave Israel and spread out all over the world.  This required a change in how the faith was practiced.\n\nThis is referred to as the development of "rabbinic" Judaism, led by famous names like Rabbi Akiva and Rabbi Hillel.\n\nHowever even if the Temple was reconstructed it is unlikely that anyone but the most orthodox of Jews would want to perform animal sacrifices there -- the faith has moved on since its days spent wandering in the desert.  As the guy below me says, repentence and prayer has taken the place of animal sacrifice.\n\nAnd anyway there's the Dome of the Rock in the way and a whole lot of Muslims who would be unhappy if it were removed.\n\nSee links below for a timeline and other details:
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Jews lived in the area of Israel for 4,ooo years.  Jews also bought a lot of land in Israel from the Arabs.  No land was stolen ny Jews.  Arabs started a war on the Jews and got their asses kicked.
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It's not just you.  I have also witnessed this and it greatly disturbs me.  You can go to a Muslim chatroom almost any time of day and find people insulting Jews.  If one wants to really insult someone in those rooms, they'll call them a "Jew" or "Jew-lover."  I get so mad.  They habitually deny the holocaust, and yet believe in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which has been proven to be a fabrication.  \n\nEarly in the Prophet Muhammad's career, there was a Jewish tribe that made a treaty with him.  But they broke the treaty.  Of course, they were probably not being treated as equals since they never converted to Muhammad's new religion.  But this set a very bad precedent, unfortunately for the Jews.  Because the Muhammad then recited verses of the Qur'an which were directed against "the Jews."  Of course, this more than likely meant THOSE Jews from that one tribe who had broken the treaty, and not Jews in general.  However, there are various verses in the Qur'an that seem like they are applying more generally to all Jews.  And there are some very very negative statements in there against Jews.\n\nFor example, the Qur'an says that the Jews had received a revelation from God, but that they twisted it and changed it, and to punish them, God turned them into detestable apes!  There is a statement in the Qur'an about the Jewish nose, implying it is crooked on account of sin.  There are whole suras (chapters) in there just going on and on about Jews and it is really NOT positive.\n\nThere ARE positive statements in the Qur'an about Jews.  But I do not think it outweighs the negative ones therein at all.\nThere was a time when Muslims and Jews got along better - when the Jews were subordinate to the Muslims.  As long as the Muslims were over the Jews, the Muslims were ok with Jews.  But when the Jewish state of Israel was created, everything went way downhill.  The Palestinians saw it as a takeover and an infiltration.  (even though it was Britain that had owned the land before).\n\nThere is a deep rift and it will take a lot to heal it, I'm afraid.
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Look at God....\nin acts people sold their house and gave most of the money to fund the christians, but saved a little out to survive on. when questioned about it they lied and were instantly struck dead.\nGod took a mans supernatural strength away because he CUT HIS HAIR.\nHe made the israelites wander around in the desert for fourty years because some small thing moses did p***ed him off.\nHe allowed his own son to be tortured and killed because it was his will.\nHe allowed moses to Slaughter countless men, women and children because they freaking made a calf and said the calf led them out of slavery...\nhe allowed Job to be tortured just to 'prove a point'\nso if we were created in Gods imagine, well, its no wonder why we're this way.
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casue they were jews.
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Your common sense is letting you down,Jim. It developed a flat tire.\n\nJesus did ask God to forgive them - for they do not know what they do (in crucifying our Lord). HOWEVER this forgiveness for killing our Lord did not stop the Jews (those vicious ones, does not include all) from continuing to do wrong and God was displeased with them yes.\n\nDo you really think when Jesus asked God to not lay the act of Crucifying him (gentiles were as guilt and the prayer was for them as well) that this covered everything they did, and thus made those particular Jews behave Godly? NO! There is the free will thing going.\n\nIf I forgive you for hitting me, and you go hit other people, am I supposed to be approving of this? Certainly not.\n\nUnless I am missing what you're getting at - your eyes are blinded or you're just deliberately yanking chains. I love ya man, but you're not using one shred of that intelligence you brag on, here.
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Well, it was Passover at the time, and the money-changers did big business then.  People who came from foreign parts had to have their money changed into Jewish currency as this was the only money accepted for the Temple tax, and for the purchase of animals used for sacrifices.  Nothing changes: often the inflated rates of exchange made the moneychangers richer than they should have been, and the prices charged by the merchants for their animals was exorbitant.  Their stalls were set up int the Court of the Gentiles in the Temple; to get to the Temple non-Jews had to pass through it, so they were beleaguered on every side before they got there.  This is what made Jesus angry; they were, in effect, keeping Gentiles from worshipping God.
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absolutely insane some one thinks that god created the wheel\n\nthis is an insult to the humans who did this in 3000BC in the fertile crescent
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Hang on a minute. I thought Muslims looked to Allah and Mohammed as their Saviour/Prophet and Islam as their religion? Regardless, there is nothing on record that says Jews are the 'chosen people'. The only people who say this are Jews themselves, and these interpretations are based on THEIR interpretation of a 'Bible' written by fellow Jews...who played down their role in the execution of another Saviour of mankind. \n\nIf we all believe that the Lord/Allah/Jesus/Jehovah is our saviour (because God has many faces), we are ALL chosen people - not just one race or one nation of people and certainly not because one race of people has written a 'Book' biased in their favour...\n\nWhy ask such a stupid and ill-informed question on this board if not to provoke ill feeling?