When people from forward castes in India covert to backward class do they get benefits under the constitution?
610787
I think it'll be  a damn good idea. Everyone should convert to Sc/ST and OBC's and then reservation will have no meaning. Great idea to kill this reservations stupidity
321116
no reservations shhould not be there. we should be counted according to our capabilities not by the caste. reservations creates a breakage line within the unity of our country.
523537
Bravo!! You think good.  Actually people are not jealous but are biased towards the backward class. I agree with you to do away with the caste system.
1036960
Except for the fact that there will be no Standard Deduction from the salary for the A Y 2006-07 all other matters remain same., \ni.e. all provision of HRA, Perquisites etc., remain same\n\nplease note that basic slab has increased to Rs. 100,000 and section 80 L (interest benefit) has been withdrawn
239609
Well a guy called Manu wrote a book called Manushastra around couple of thousand years ago.\n\nHe created classes of people\nBrahmins - Educated Class and also the preists\nKshatriyas - Warrior Class\nSudras - Untouchables, who were to do jobs that the above classes were not to do.\n\nWell in the begining, i do not think it was a great deal, as the reason for doing this classification was good at that point of time.\n\nOver a period of years it has been used by unscrupols elements in the society to their best use and during this that class of people have been left out of the mainstream of public life.\n\nWell over the period of years Govt of India is trying to bridge the gap and also make sure that there is no Untouchability in India, But i think now it is being used by the politicians to gain votes rather than to help them out.\n\nWell in modern India i do not think anyone is bothered about the other perons caste any more
721303
Your comment reminds me of a Star Trek episode.  There is a planet on which most of the population has to work in harsh mining conditions to support the Cloud City Dwellers, a fantastically advanced city that floats above the planet.  The hard work of the people on the planet surface support the fortunate cloud city inhabitants.  The workers below live a harsh, unpleasant life.  The people in the floating city live a life of luxury.\n\nIt is the lower castes in India that make possible the life the elites there enjoy.\n\nAs you can see, I carefully sidestepped your question. Why? Because your supposition may be, in the short term, correct. India may not benefit globally in the short run, but eventually it will have to address this permanent underclass and fix these inequalities.
58990
it works with ruthless discrimnation\n\nyou are not supposed to marry, associate with, have business dealings with, or even acknowledge others outside your caste.
999518
Come from Constitution
646840
rerservation will slows down countrys growth. there is no meaning for the word social justice. it is an innovation of politicians. how can arjun singh uplift 50 crore people with resrvation of 10000 seats. its a political drama. if reservation continued there will not be a day where all people feel that they are equal. it divides country. it accelerates brain drain. when govt wont recognise their merit how can upper castes people stay in this country.
347068
The reservation system is based on caste ...... proving india is biased towardst eh caste system .... it should be the survival of the fittest ... raise taxes and open charitable schools for the lower castes if the need be but at least give the bright people a chance ........ the present situation gives the dumbest a chance while the average is turned into a dumb person .........\n\nits pathetic
354658
reserving seats for OBC's can only be described as "Sheer Lazyness". every time there is pressure on govt to do something for backward classes they come out with more reservation. developing resources takes time and money and it does not do much to develop vote banks so our supposedly clever politician come up with perfect excuse to avoid work. just promise something that will never be delivered. how many people are actually getting these jobs and seats anyway. and do you actually believe anyone benefits. \n\nthis is just simple politics. divide and rule. it would be better if everyone just refuse to accept reservations. OBC's included and force these crooks to justify their salary and perks for a change and do some real work.
709310
No, sorry. You must show you lineage to obtain a CIB, Certificate of Indian Blood. Without the CIB card there are no available benefits.
321835
The idea is that you can rise from your own economical class to an even higher social and economic class.  The idea is that hard work will indeed guarantee success in our country because we have the freedom to do so.\n\nWhile many countries have a caste system, we are without that.  People who are impoverished can go to college in our country.  People can intermarry someone of a different social class.  People can even choose to live above their means and live within a class they virtually can't pay for.  It's the freedom we have that makes this somewhat true.\n\nEach individual's dream is different however.
315049
reservation makes more sense when done on monetary basis and the financial position and condition of a particular individual.. there are many rich people who take undue advantage of reservation just because they belong to some backward class. and with so many castes being added to the the obc list every year it does not make sense. there are sc's and st's which need reservation but this isnt the final and clear cut solution. the whole scenario needs to be viewed from a broader perspective not just cast and creed. the recent announcement of 50 % reservations has led to wide spread resentment which clearly shows that this is wrong. it is simple vote bank politics. i would like to conclude by saying that monetary terms are better.
961208
Very good Question,  The Indian constitution was formed in the year 1947 i.e nereby 60years ago. The Laws made at that time were aplicable for that particular period or say for nearly for 25 years. As the period elopes there seems to be many changes in the conditions of a particular law. Many people find wrong ways to evade the laws, so to bring these people under control the law has to be changed and hence a n amendment is necessarry ( Law does not mean only criminal law) Actually acording to me India needs a new constitution pertaing to the present and future period, but some politician do not allow to change the constitution just for the sake of votes. Actually it is also that not every comon person know about the whole, each and every law in the constitution. For this the leaders are afraid that at present if the constitution is changed, each and every comon person will get  to know very much about the constitution, due to the vast growing media and information links. And hence they would loose their votes which they earn only in the name of the constitution and its writer. It must be known that any constitution must be given great respect be it of the country or state, company or society. But till such leaders are there no change can be done hence there are amendments done to it.
521558
Yes, reservations like in jobs and education may also come for legislatures. But the policy makers are unable to clear the women reservations bill since a long time due to lack of consensus between various political parties. If this is the case, there are various castes and religions in India, so we cannot expect reservations for MPs and MLAs in the near future.
768072
It is discriminatory.\n\nThe Muslims in India are converts from mostly the lowest stratum of the caste system called 'sudra' who are known as Dalits or Harijan. The Muslims who invaded India were getting the person converted by force. And by marriage/forcible or otherwise, and never brought their women folk with them. Hence, all most all the Muslims remained poor, by and large. And the rulers, whether Muslims or the British never bothered about their educational and social development.\n\n After partition, the Congress party used them as a 'vote bank' and controlled them through Mullahs and the Bukharis. It is the clergies who were kept appeased and the vast majority lot remained neglected. The Muslims in India became pawns and continue to be so, in the hands of the Politicians and the Muslim clergies. Lack of education and education through the Madrsas are the main reaosn for the prevailing poverty and social backwardness among the Indian Muslims.\n\nHence, any reservation policy intended to reverse the social injustice should not exclude the Muslims. But at the time of partition of India, which was done on the basis of religion the Muslims had a choice to go to Pakistan. But only the Nawabs and the rich went to Pakistan who prefered to continue their supremacy under non-democratic social set up and the down trodden among the Muslims continued in India.\n\nHence, the right solution for India is to go for resevation only on economic basis which will also benefit the Hindus and the converted Christians among the poor.