Watching the news now. This just said about the Insurgents. They're not out to Win. Will We Win?
607705
In this sort of situation the insurgents don't have to win they just have to be.\nThey are well embedded in the population and rely on them for support.\nThe military power will use ever increasing methods of oppression to try to defeat them which will just increase their support.\nEventually the military power will lose the political will to continue because events elsewhere will become more important.\nThis happened with the British in Cyprus and to a certain extent with the British in Ireland but in the latter case it was only the support of the American people that enabled the I.R.A. terrorists to be so successful for so long.\nOnce 9/11 had happened that support melted away as the Americans got a taste of their own medecine.
1037248
I agree/disagree.  We can win in the long run.  The hope is that 20 years from now Iraq will be economically stable and it's people jamming to the Eagle's. peace
494184
We will lose the war. ( How many Iraqi people did 9-11?) This is the truth. Shot and killed one day. News for one day. Buried in 4 days. Forgotten forever. Troops!! You are dying for nothing.
1066850
Exactly...this is another Vietnam...it might not be the same scale casualty wise (at least American casulaties. Iraqi deaths are right up there). It's ridiculous. We never should have been there. I don't think it's the military's fault that there isn't progress...I'm sure they're doing what they can but there is only so much you can do before you realize that things aren't going to get any better. Insurgents are nasty and they'll stop at nothing to kill someone. This war is going to be going on for a long time unless something changes and unfortunately we have to wait a couple more years before those changes can begin. We destroyed a country now we're going to have to pay for it ....probably for the rest of our lives. It's a sad situation with no real end. You still have people out there saying that it was good that we went in...we got Saddam...we didn't go in to get Saddam. We went in to get weapons and the only ones we've found are the ones we sold them years ago to fight Iran. Interesting how that works out isn't it?
857172
It is a fact that US went into this war completely unprepared for the insurgency. US has never won a significant victory against an enenmy that employs guerilla style warfare and urban suicide terrorist attacks. Infact if you look at it no country, even Isreal has been able to do that with the Palestinian struggle. \n\nMaybe the US should consult Putin and see how he handles Chechnya. He seems to have better than average success so far.
703575
Whether the war is good or bad remains to be seen, 10 ..20 years down the road. The logic goes that if we fight them in their neighbourhood then we don't have to fight it in ours. The problem in Iraq is that Iraq was not a terrorist country to start off, but it is now, once we invaded it. Some will argues that Iraq acts like a magnet drawing the terrorists there, but the war is also creating a lot more future terrorists elsewhere seeking revenge for what we do in Iraq. So we have created more of the very ennemies we seek to destroy. The current war is costing us billions every months; on the flip side, the insurgency use very little money to fight us. I'm afraid that in the long run, it's gonna bankrup our country, that's my prediction. We got out of Vietnam not because we coulnd't win it, but because it would have taken way too long and would have costed way too much money to fight to the end. The insurgency is fighting for their country, it's their homeland; they can stay there forever, but can we???
983745
At this point, just leaving Iraq right now with the situation it's in is a recipe for disaster. If you think it's bad now, just imagine what it'll be like without us. On the other hand, it's more of a catch-22 than anything. If we keep staying in Iraq, insurgents will keep killing soldiers. If we leave, however, everything we've done will be for nothing. The closest thing we can do that would be considered winning in my opinion is to have a functioning government, an army that can hold it's own, and basically get Iraq back on it's feet. After that, then we should leave. If there is *no* way we can win the war without anything like divine intervention, then we might as well leave.
1080568
Wow I know the news is upsetting but you need to calm down before you give yourself a stroke.\n\nIf they were really good soldiers they would not have been abducted in the first place, now they are the pawns of those whacked out insurgents (some of whom are probably just as pissed off as you about us blowing the $#!T out of Abu Musab Al Zarqawi last week) who will try to use them as leverage. When they see that they can't they will either release them or kill them. Either way the insurgents will most likely be killed eventually. Those soldiers knew the kind of danger they were in, save your indignation for when innocents are killed or abducted.
179842
No.  That much is obvious at this point.  It will be a war in the end, I fear, The majority will win but it will be a bloodbath with many innocents losing their lives in the process.
531294
they wont be i'm sure.  if thats the case lets punish those who killed the 38059 other civilians lost.  its ridiculous because its just part of war.  people need to get a grip its not new news its been happening since 2003, and accidents and cofusion happens.  heard of ptsd????
821248
Could we defeat them? Yes we could. Do we currently have the balls to jump in a furball with them and stick it out to the win? No, we do not. Witness Iraq and all the mewling and whining even after it was carefully explained that it would be a long, expensive process.\n\nShould we? No. All we need do is show that we have the guts and determination to finish what we started in Iraq, they will back off.
632902
I think it will be like Vietnam where the US won militarily in terms of the number of enemy troops/insurgents that were killed(US lost 58,000 soldiers, Viet Cong lost over 1.5 million) but did not acheive its goal to stop the communist takeover of Vietnam. The US will no doubt kill dozens of insurgents for every soldier it loses in Iraq but public opinion in the States will eventually lead to troop withdrawal and the insurgents may overthrow the undefended and overwhelmed democratic government and install a theocracy like Iran
278504
Waste of money for the tax payer, A PR exercise & just another deliberate prolonging of the war to generate cash for those with investments in the war industry who want results. \nThe US and friends should get out now, acknowledging that there will always be 'insurgents' as long as they occupy by force another country against the will of what looks like the majority of the people.
863155
It's more like the insurgents in Iraq won the US elections. Now they know the Americans can't stand to fight a tough battle and actually stay with it long enough to win. The Iraqi people are the losers here. Now their country will fall into the hands of terrorists, become a breeding ground and training camp for Al-Queda. Very sad.
762111
I believe our troops are performing their mission well they are securing the streets while providing humanitarian aide.  I am not sure if I agree with the mission.  I think that we are in a position much like Vietnam where are troops are not being allowed to win the war. I understand that we don't want to be inhumane but this is a war we are fighting - let them do whatever is necessary to win so they can come home.
142565
Before the US can consider attacks on other countries, it would be smart to get out of the quagmire it has in Iraq. I used to believe the insurgents simply wanted us out of Iraq and that they would quit when we left.  I no longer believe that. I believe they are deliberately keeping us bogged down over there, and keeping us busy putting out fires, so that we can't leave.  We must feel some obligation to stay until we see at least one commencement ceremony from their new government.  That would allow a clean break and this will probably never happen.  It is now time for a serious exit strategy.  It is time to give Iraq a short term timetable.  It is time for our troops to come home, lick our wounds, and get ready for the next round, wherever that will be.  I seriously doubt that it will Pakistan as long as Musarreff is in charge. Iran, on the other hand, or Syria????
988091
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/\nhttp://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182\n\nthough I think they may count insurgents as civi's.\n\nI am sorry, but I am more concerned about the monitary value of this war than the iraqi lives lost. Unfortunately it is not equaling up for me. I think we should pull out before this poor excuse for a economic boost kills our markets even more.\n\n9/11, USS Cole, Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania *2, OK City, and so on are facts of life. It is part of being the most powerful nation on Earth, you piss off alot of people to get there.