whouldnt you think being on fire for Jesus is a hell punishment?
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Yes it does sound like christians are shooting themselves in the foot. its quite amusing. I also think that on some subconciese level that the guilt fear and shame inside them darkens thier hearts until they are unaware they are doing anything wrong or believing anything wrong/.;
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:}\nYou are of course exactly right!\nWe deserve no better than hell fire eternally.\nWe have all sinned and fallen short of his glory\nJustice does not allow some in who and keep others out who sinned\nDeath is the wage of sin\nAll sinners go to hell\nWe are all sinners.\nPRAISE THE LORD FOR HIS BEYYER PLAN\nThats the gospel (good news)  \nthe verdict has already been carried out. the punishment for my sin hasalready been executed.\nHe paid my sin debt
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Like the people in an unknown Pigmy tribe??  \n\nGod will judge their hearts.. I don't think He would throw anyone away because they were never taught.\n\nGod is too merciful and loving for that.\n\nNow, if someone were exposed to Jesus , and they denied the Lord, then that's a different story. Yes, according to the Bible, they would go to hell. :o(
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Interesting question.\n\nI think that we are in a form and/or fashion already being punished, not necessarily by God, but by the natural order of things that God, himself, set in place.  Reaping and sowing is a definite fact of life, whether one believes it or not.  Science, even backs up the concept with what goes up, must come down. \n\nI, also feel that we punish ourselves with guilt and unrealistic expectations of perfection looming just ahead in our minds, that God said we would not reach till the day of his coming. So, with all this in my mind, I believe that I will answer No, to your question, should we still be punished, if Jesus died for our sins. If God, My Father says He can & will forgive, and Jesus dripped blood savagely so I could...
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No, no, NO!\n\nWe hear about some poor person who died horribly after being tortured, or after suffering painfully from disease such as cancer or AIDS, or a baby who dies painfully, and any decent human being says "They didn't deserve that..."  But God, according to the Scriptures of various religions, thinks they did.  According to the scriptures and Christian/Jewish/Muslim belief, He knew about it, He could have prevented it, but He chose not to.  Disagreeing with God might be evil, but speaking for myself, I would have if I could have.  If that's evil, so be it.\n\nSo it seems that God is not as caring about humans as we were led to believe - assuming you accept a literal interpretation of the Bible.  So perhaps that is why He (and some of his followers) are so insensitive to the suffering of humanity, and would condemn even good people to eternity in hell.  In His viewpoint, apparently, they do deserve hell.\n\nI do not believe that anyone, let alone loving, charitable people who have not followed a particular religion's doctrine (such as saying the "sinner's prayer") deserves an eternity of torment.  That is one of the reasons that while I remain a spiritual person, I no longer identify myself with organized religion, including Christianity.
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I agree with you. He wants to be a martyr. The worst punishment we could give him right now is life inprisonment. That would drive him and his supporters nuts!
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Salam!\n\nThere's only one hell but it has 7 levels. Each worst than the other. As far as i know none of the levels are categorized into belonging to christians, jews, etc. The deeper you will fall into hell fire, the worst it will be.\n\nThe worst of the enemies of Allah (SWT) will be in the lowest and the worst part of hell. And the least of them will be punished with wearing shoes which will be made from fire of hell.\n\nNow hell fire is extremely hot. It is nothing compared to the fire of this world. The hell fire will be able to affect people standing thousands of distance away from it.\n\n...And Allah knows best!
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"HELL" IS NOT A TEACHING OF SCRIPTURE.  The canned brand of so-called Christianity out there is keeping people from the real truth.\n\n"For the wages of sin is DEATH"...(not live torture in a firey abode all the days of eternity) Romans 6:23\n\nThe gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ...Romans 6:23
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I'd be condemned to hell for sure.
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But the question is what this punishment will consist of. Is it eternal torture? Not likely. Apart from major philosophical and ethical issues, the idea of hell as an eternal torture chamber is a primitive and un-Christian notion, a result of early Christianity's loss of ground to patristic, egotistic pagans. \n\nDoes this punishment consist of utter annihilation of the soul in question? Possibly. This is what the Bible seems to be saying.\n\nDoes this punishment consist of selective destruction of the wicked part of the soul in question, and the rest obtaining forgiveness? Possibly. Again, this can be read out of Scriptures.\n\nBut in any of  the above cases, Satan is acting (like he always has been) as an agent of God's will.\n\nTheses are complicated theological issues that require much study, and I am afraid I have not quite done them justice, so forgive me if in my ignorance I have presented something untrue.
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No, this is not true.  What about Christ or mother Theresa, do you think they are in hell?  What about Saint John the babtist? Or the apostles?  Whoever told you this was wrong.  You go to hell by your own choices.
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I consider myself Christian, born and raised. My family has never been strict about it though. I don't believe that non-believers will go to hell. I do however believe that if you KILL, rape, or lead a life without morals, that you will suffer in your own hell that you caused others.
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I would think to make hell worse, one would go to the politicians' and Evangelists' area. Nothing worse than that I bet!
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you people are sick in the head .yes we live in hell right now noone is safe the churches are so corrupt that you cant trust anyone especially with your children .when you die you will smell the stench of (the burning of the born again} if your leading a life of lies .its not a good smell .you will see an inverted jesus and you will have to chose the path you want to follow .the road to nowhere leads to me.\n\njesus christ looks just like me
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Oh boy, yeah, threaten me with eternal torture. That sure makes me see the light. I think I'll go convert right now. Then I can threaten people with an eternity of torture too! Which would be wrong if I did it myself, but it's god, so it's all cool! I can take as much pleasure in it as I want! That's the religion for me, yep.
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Of course I deserve to go to hell.  Everyone does.  It's only by the grace and blood of Jesus Christ that any of us are made worthy of heaven and eternal life.
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Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10\n\nI guess the whole hell fire torture thing is a big lie. Not that God would ever do such a thing anway.\n\nOther scriptures such as John 11:11-14 show that death is like a deep sleep. Church leaders teach that a person who dies immediately goes to heaven or hell. This however is not true. In order to live again, a person has to be resurrected (brought back to life). The Bible teaches "ashes to ashes, dust to dust", not "ashes to hell fire, dust to hell fire". - Genesis 3:19\n\nThe Bible states that "the wages sin pays is death" not "the wages sin pays is eternal torment" (Romans 6:23). Death is the absence of life. If a person where to be tortured in hell fire, wouldn't they have to be alive to know what was going on?\n\nSo as Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10 correctly states, those who have died are unconscious entirely. They are in a deep sleep, awaiting a resurrection back to life. If the soul was immortal would they need a resurrection? Instead, we rely on God for eternal life.\n\nWhen the Bible speaks of hell, it is actually referring to the place where a person is layed to rest (see Jonah 2:2 where Jonah refers to the belly of the fish as 'hell'). Many Bible translations translate the word hell as 'grave' and 'pit' also.\n\nI hope all this was helpful to you. Here are other scriptures that you may find useful:\nPsalm 146:4\nJob 14:10\nEcclesiastes 3:20