How do pro-illegal immigration factions reconcile the hated Bush's pro-illegal stance?  Why be on his side???
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Illegals draw welfare by stealing people's social security numbers and identities. That means there are a lot of people being directly hurt by these people as well. Innocent people are having their credit ratings ruined, having IRS problems, and social security problems. If someone who has had their social security number stolen gets married, if either spouse dies or become disabled then they can be denied their benefits. \n\nMy family moved to the US before WWII. Those of my family that didn't make it over got killed by the death camps. Our family assimilated to the American culture. We didn't expect the Americans to change to suit us. The illegal immigrants from Mexico are not civilized like that.\n\nThey not only changed the National Anthem to Spanish, they changed the words. They already burn our flag and hang our flag upside down. They waved the Mexican flag during a lot of their protests. Some schools have stopped hanging the American flag and forbidden students from wearing clothes with any part of the American flag on their clothing all to keep from offending the Mexicans. It's nothing short of an attack of our country, not only by the illegal aliens, but those who seek to appease them. \n\nI am tired of the stereotype that Americans wouldn't do the work that illegals do. Illegals do all kinds of jobs for less than minimum wage which drives the wages down for U.S. citizens. Construction jobs are an example. There are lots of illegals doing construction jobs that Americans used to do because the companies can keep more of the profits if they pay less for the workers. All that does is make companies wealthier and Americans poorer. Illegals are stealing jobs that Americans have done for years. \n\nIf you go to a country and refuse to assimilate, continuing to speak your own language then you are really not an immigrant -- you're a colonist ... and that's what the Mexicans are doing, they're colonizing the American Southwest as part of their "reconquista" Read about mecha in the link I provided and you'll see what the Mexicans real agenda is.\n\nhttp://www.americanpatrol.com/MECHA/MEChAindex.html\n\nMost Mexicans believe the Southwestern US rightfully belongs to Mexico; and most believe they should have the right to enter the US without government permission. –Zogby Poll (June 2002)\n\n~~~\n\nHalf of all Mexicans – over 50 million – would move to the US if given the opportunity. –Pew Hispanic Center (August 2005)\n\n~~~\n\n84% of Americans view Mexicans favorably.\n\nBut only 36% of Mexicans view Americans favorably.\n-only 26% of Mexicans say Americans are hard-working.\n-only 16% say Americans are honest.\n-and 73% say Americans are racist.\n\n-Zogby Poll (March 2006)\n\n~~~\n\nThe prohibitive cost of providing illegals with free healthcare has shut down more than 60 hospitals in California since 1993; many more are on the verge of closing. –Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (Spring 2005)\n\n~~~\n\nIllegals enter this country without health screening. Consequently, epidemic diseases from our past – polio, tuberculosis, plague, leprosy – are on the rise.\n\n~~~\n\nIllegals consume $69 billion in social services annually. –Rep. Russell Pearce (AZ)\n\n~~~\n\nAccording to the US Census, 96% of the increase in public school enrollment is due to immigration.\n\n~~~\n\nThe Federation for American Immigration Reform estimates that children of illegal immigrants cost public schools $28.6 billion annually.\n\n~~~\n\nIllegal immigrant labor depresses wages for American citizens by $200 billion a year. –Lou Dobbs, US News & World Report (01/31/05)\n\n~~~\n\nThe cost of illegal immigration to the American taxpayer is $55,000 per illegal. –Center for Immigration Studies (July 2001)\n\n~~~\n\nAccording to the US DEA, 92% of the cocaine sold in the US comes in through Mexico (2004) as does 65% of meth and a majority of marijuana.\n\n~~~\n\nIllegal immigrants (ab
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Well, I think your facts are reversed.  As you know, many conservative Republicans are not in favor of making helping an illegal alien from another country, for example Mexico, a crime.  As you probably also know, in spring and summer of this year, there were nation-wide protests relating to this hot-button issue.  However, at his press conference the other morning, President Bush proclaimed that he could pass his agenda as far as immigration goes.  Therefore, Dem's are more likely to help President Bush pass a law making assisting illegal aliens a felony.  Therefore, I believe that you have your facts reversed. Wouldn't you want to help your own people?  Unless many of the Mexican-Americans were uninformed of the Dem's stand on this issue, then I would have to say that they would not vote Dem's into office because of their stand on this issue.
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Bush was behind it.  He doesn't want to hurt his "image" as a humanitarian so he asked the republican'ts to kill it.  His family is mixed Cuban (Jeb's wife and Kids) and he realizes the irony if he nixes the Mexicans.  So he wants to leave it for the next administration.  The only good thing I can think of that he's done!!!
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Wow, it looks like some of these people are a little (or alot) kooky. Don't feel alone, there are many of us out here who feel as you do. He did not start the war based on a lie. There were intelligence reports from MANY countries that all said the same thing. He doesn't hate Mexicans...geez, he wants to give the illegals a break for God Sake! The war is not about oil if it was why aren't we paying .50 a gallon. Iraq needs to use that money to rebuild and support it's people. He is not murdering women and children. He is not Satan. I believe he is a sincere man who is doing the best he can. The media also plays a big part in people's perceptions of him. Anyone who says the media is not a liberal propaganda machine is a liar. Then there are those who believe whatever Alec Baldwin, the Dixie Chicks, Barbra Streisand, David Letterman, Jon Stewart etc. tell them to believe. They are all so well educated you know!\nKeep your head up....don't let these freaks get to you. You are the sane one NOT them.
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There are many levels of support.\n\nMost of us who "support" them, do not argue that the borders should just be thrown wide open, or even that they should be allowed to stay.\n\nMost of us "supporters" just want an immigration policy that doesn't treat them *all* like they were murderous thieves and drug dealers.  That image is one born out of racism.\n\n(And by the way, if you listen closely to those "idiots" in the protest marches ... that is what they're saying ... they are angy that white Americans treat them like vermin.)\n\nThe vast majority *do* come here for no more criminal a purpose than to find work and better their lives and those of their families.  Yes, I'm sure of that, and yes I know they are not *all* good people.  But when we are not "psychic" (as you say) and unable to tell the good people from the scum, you don't just treat them all like scum.\n\nSo at the very least ... catch them, stop them, deport them  ... but don't *hate* them ... they are doing what they have to do.\nIf we would do what we have to do ... prosecute the rich white farm growers and factory owners who are providing the jobs ... aiding the economies in their countries (instead of pouring it by the billions into that rathole called the Iraq war) ... *then* they would stop coming here.\n\nIt's the dripping *racism* on this part of YA that I object to.\n\nExample: On another post, someone discovered that his Australian neighbor was illegal, and asked if he should report her.  The "Best Answer" was somebody who said that he should report her if she is "hyspanic", but not if she is Australian.  \n\nRacists suck.
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For decades, the United States has pursued a de facto policy of exploiting and abusing immigrant labor, mostly from Mexico. It is hypocritical and un-American. \n\nWhile many of us (especially those of us who are middle-class or wealthy) enjoy the benefits of low-cost labor, we have been unwilling to pass laws that make it easier for those laborers to get green cards or guest-worker visas. (If they achieved legal status, they might be unwilling to do unpleasant work for substandard wages.) \n\nNor have elected officials been willing to crack down on the businesses that hire illegal labor. Indeed, one of the reasons for our bipolar policy is that business interests pressure politicians to look the other way so they can continue to exploit cheap labor. \n\nMr. Bush's instincts on immigration tend to be progressive and forward-thinking. He told the American Society of Newspaper Editors on Thursday that he supports a policy that would put together "willing workers" and "willing employers." He also acknowledged that the backlash against immigration "encourages nativism and behavior that doesn't represent the way America should view the world." This is where racists, like many on answer.yahoo.com come in...\n\nIf business owners weren't so eager to hire undocumented workers, the workers would be less likely to run the risk of crossing the border illegally. \n\nThat is what should be done to end the problem.
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It is about time the President got back to the people that stood behind him for two elections.\n\nStanding firm in his convictions won the White House , kept the White House and is what is needed now to keep the borders safe.  \n\nWhen President Bush tries to make all the crying liberals and bleeding hearts happy is when his poll numbers go down. \n\nKick every last illegal immigrant out of the United States and to hades with any type of amnesty. Illegal immigrants broke the law to get here - it is time they pay for their crime.
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guess what He's a democrat in favor of granting amnesty to illegal aliens!!!\n\n\n\nif you enter the country illegally, you must accept the consequences. The reasons for breaking the law don't matter.
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I write public officials constantly about these issues, especially my senators and the representative of my ward.  The truth is that hundreds of thousands of people are writing, calling, showing up....to demand border security and extreme limits on all forms of immigration.  So many that the lines of communication are all jammed most of the time.\n\nThat's why you saw the whole amnesty craziness come to a screeching halt (its also why an enforcment only bill came out of the house).  It has become extremely clear that any politician who, in any way, stands in the way of reform, is finished.  Something like 90% of people in the US feel this way and feel strongly enough about it that they will vote out anyone who tries to prevent reform.  Bushes stance on amnesty is what has driven his poll numbers into the toilet...not the situation in Iraq (for which he has been completely vindicated I might add).
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It sounds to me a lot of the time that both sides want the borders secured, even pro-illegals.  Pro-illegals, for the most part from what I have garnered here on this forum, seem to want the illegals who are currently in the USA to be given amnesty if they do not have a criminal record, and they want the borders secured for the future.  Secured borders is the only area that I can see agreement on.  Anti-illegal supporters want ALL illegal immigrants currently in the USA deported, no matter what the cost, because they believe the long term costs will be far less, even if the short-term costs of deportation is large.  They feel that illegal immigrants should leave the USA on their own steam and should then apply through proper procedures and they are welcome to come back if they qualify.  \n\nI've also gotten the feeling on this forum that both sides feel the blame for illegal immigration should fall upon the shoulders of employers who knowingly hire illegals and most people feel that these employers should be severely punished.  It is felt that if the employers would not hire the illegals, they would have no reason to come, in the first place.\n\nPersonally, I feel strongly that the "anchor baby" law should be gotten rid of.  I don't know that the majority of Americans feel this way, or not.  I feel that this law is outdated and also is an extra motivation to illegal immigration.
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I believe that Bush wants to offer blanket amnesty to all illegal aliens in the United States, as long as they submit to background checks and make their presence known in the country.  He calls this his "guest worker" policy, much like they have in Europe.  Foreign immigrants, he says, will fill the jobs that no one else will take.  Although this sounds racist and perhaps elitist, it is common practice in every part of the world, including Europe and Asia.  He doesn't want to kick anyone out, as I understand it.  It is one of the few Bush policies that I agree with.
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" who would eny liars!!!"\n\nEvidently anyone who would have supported Kerry, Gore, or Clinton\n\nWhy do they hate Bush and the administration?\n\nIt is simple acually. The Dems have gone SO far left. They have turned back into the hippies from the 60's. The hippies were against anything dealing with supressing the want of the individual. They were against any notion of war or defense, no matter the reason. Those who are more inclined to be criminals (what party do you think most drug users and criminals support?) will be against ones that stand for strong laws and prosecution. Religious ideals scare the hippies, so any law or government stemming from those ideals and not supressing those ideals is a threat to the leftists. The ones that remain focused on the preconception, rather than the actual facts, tend to more easily spew hate than logically assess the situation and deal with agree or disagree as a principle.
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Bush isn't going a good job on anything, let along border security.  Did you know the Oregon boarder is protected by all of three state troopers?  I met one last summer when I was camping.  And keeping Mexicans out isn't 'border' protection, neither is locking up Canada.  Its being a jerk and trying to push another issue.  He's doing much less than what the media and he shows to the public when it comes to actual homeland security.
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The flood of American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week, sparking calls for increased patrols to stop the illegal immigration. The actions of President Bush are prompting the exodus among left-leaning citizens who fear they'll soon be required to hunt, pray, and agree with Bill O'Reilly. \n\nCanadian border farmers say it's not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, animal-rights activists, and Unitarians crossing their fields at night. \n\n"I went out to milk the cows the other day, and there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn," said Manitoba farmer Red Greenfield, whose acreage borders North Dakota. "The producer was cold, exhausted and hungry." \n\n"He asked me if I could spare a latte and some free-range chicken. When I said I didn't have any, he left. Didn't even get a chance to show him my screenplay, eh?" \n\nIn an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected higher fences, but the liberals scaled them. So he tried installing speakers that blare Rush Limbaugh across the fields. "Not real effective," he said. "The liberals still got through, and Rush annoyed the cows so much they wouldn't give milk." \n\nOfficials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet liberals near the Canadian border, pack them into Volvo station wagons, drive them across the border and leave them to fend for themselves. \n\n"A lot of these people are not prepared for rugged conditions," an Ontario border patrolman said. "I found one carload without a drop of drinking water. They did have a nice little Napa Valley cabernet, though." \n\nWhen liberals are caught, they're sent back across the border, often wailing loudly that they fear retribution from conservatives. Rumors have been circulating about the Bush administration establishing re-education camps in which liberals will be forced to drink domestic beer and watch NASCAR races. \n\nIn recent days, liberals have turned to sometimes-ingenious ways of crossing the border. Some have taken to posing as senior citizens on bus trips to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching a half-dozen young vegans disguised in powdered wigs, Canadian immigration authorities began stopping buses and quizzing the supposed senior-citizen passengers on Perry Como and Rosemary Clooney hits to prove they were alive in the '50s. \n\n"If they can't identify the accordion player on The Lawrence Welk Show, we get suspicious about their age," an official said. \n\nCanadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage and renting all the good Susan Sarandon movies. \n\n"I feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can't support them," an Ottawa resident said. "How many art-history majors does one country need?" \n\nIn an effort to ease tensions between the United States and Canada, Vice President Dick Cheney met with the Canadian ambassador and pledged that the administration would take steps to reassure liberals, a source close to Cheney said. \n\n"We're going to have some Peter, Paul & Mary concerts. And we might put some endangered species on postage stamps. The President is determined to reach out," he said.
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Bush is trying to play the American people for fools.  He is not serious about stopping illegal immigration and never has been.  If you have doubts examine his proposal for a guest worker program.  This program is a way to ensure a permanent supply of cheap labor for the business elite, whom he represents.  Sending troops to the border won't solve the problem, and he knows it.  Again, just trying to play Americans for fools.  Proposing an ammendment to have English be the official language does NOTHING to solve the problem.  It's just Bush telling the American people, "Oh, you're upset because my corporate buddies are taking away your jobs and giving them to foreigners to increase their profits, here I'll throw you this bone, maybe you'll settle down, and we can all go back to screwing you in the butt."  And all the while, he has the audacity to propagate lies like " the illegals are doing jobs Americans don't want."  I think it's time for all Americans to wake up and see what our government is doing to us and whose interests they are really looking out for.
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He is a bleeding heart liberal that can't answer a question without getting sidetracked on his own agenda\nwhat do deaths in Iraq have to do with Immigration - Legal or Illegal\n\nHe is just out of control with hate
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Right here with you sealrborders!  Keep up the good work!  You have tons of support, believe me!  Don't let the few illegal-huggers get you down!  Ignore the nasty names - that's what they resort to because they really know you are right and they haven't got a single good argument for why they are pro-illegal immigrants, other than because they, themselves, are illegal or they are in love with an illegal, or their parents or other relatives or friends are illegal (they, themselves, are often anchor babies and so want their parents to get that easy amnesty George Bush is promising them), or they own businesses and hire illegals to take advantage of the slave labour, or they hire them to clean their houses, mow their lawns, or look after their children, again for cheap slave labour that they don't want to lose because they are too cheap to pay proper wages to legal immigrants or American citizens.\n\nBelieve me, we loves ya!\n\nPS:  Especially ignore sqwirlsgirl - she's one of the above-described illegal-huggers, I just haven't quite figured out which one yet.