Is 'war for oil excuse' getting old and tiresome?
607809
There are some flaws in your argument.\n\nThe major one being that Russia is one of the largest oil producers in the world.\n\nIraq wasn't allowed to export oil, so France or anyone else supporting them wasn't exactly protecting supply.\n\nI don't hold that the war was about oil per se. It was more about being one enormous cock up with faulty intelligence being taken as fact, posturing from Saddam and al Qaeda camps sprouting up at the same time.\n\nIn the end everyone lost patience and their heads and forgot that violence and war simply doesn't solve problems only causes people to entrench their views.\n\nI agree the Iran crisis has to be solved, but I do not think that America will solve it with an attack. Besides, if I think that other nations would be a little worried about Iran getting nuclear weapons - Isreal for one and I don't think Russia would like the idea of their domestic Islamic terrorists groups getting access to nuclear material.
709818
Yes, It started getting lame around 15 years ago. It's the same, Your just getting older.
89785
nah...\n\nPeople have been complaining that the current generation is worse than the past ones literally since Aristotle. Times changes, as do attitudes and fads. Sometimes the old folks (and that would probaby include me at 44) sometimes don't keep up with it and have a lot of nostalgia for what they *think* was there youth.
344569
I think metcalf has it half right. This war was intended as payback for the powerful corporations (most notably Halliburton and the oil companies) who backed bush's political campaigns in 2000 and 2004. These companies are making a fortune off the deaths of young American and British soldiers, to say nothing of the staggering Iraqi civilian casualties. It is a disgrace!\n\nAs far as consolidating republican power on the homefront, it's a decidedly mixed bag, I think. The lockstep majority are of course falling in line behind their idiot king, georgie the incompetent, and many will go down with his ship of state (aka ship of fools). But I am seeing increasing signs of dissent in the ranks. Censure and even impeachment (sweet Jesus, let it be so!) could be in the offing if the Democrats can retake control of the House and/or Senate in the 2006 elections. \n\nThat said, the blood money from this illegal and immoral war has filled the GOP coffers to overflowing. So by virtue of that fact, yes, the consolidation of republican power has been achieved. Money is the name of the game in Washington and those bastards have plenty of it now. Still, I am not without hope of something vaguely resembling justice prevailing when all is said and done in this, the worst period in modern US history.
124742
Sure. Do you want to discuss the fact that the war is all about oil and NOT WMD or the fact that Saddam Hussein (the killer that he is) was basically used as a pawn????
742970
Snake oil?  You mean like that "apology" from Kerry?
821111
You know these questions are getting old
173622
Peaceniks say this because it sounds smart to people that don't think for themselves.  Anyone that does ANY research would not buy it for a minute\n\nIt the same as conservatives calling liberals unpatriotic.  Both sides use extreme terms to convert people to their misguided way of thinking.\n\nWhenever I hear someone say that we went to war for oil, I ask them to explain why gas prices have gone up, to record prices.  This usually leaves them stumped because no one has ever questioned their position.
542488
Oil is so politicized these days that I'm sure that you will never be told or be readily allowed access to the real story but please keep trying.\n\nBy the way if you think about it, I mean really think about it, oil is too cheap.
645404
Nice argument.  It's almost like when you ask:\nOR\nWhy do we have more oil than Iran but can't touch it because environmentalists won't let us drill of the Atlantic or Pacific or in Alaska or off the coast of Florida?\nOR\nWhy did the secret Echelon Program (eavesdropping & call-logging) reach its peak during the Clinton era?\nOR\nHow is it that Bush "didn't do enough" to prevent 9/11 but now he's "doing too much" to try and stop another one?\n\nInteresting, isn't it?
1146554
You are right on target!  See the new movie "An Inconvenient Truth" - it lays out the FACTS, pure and simple, unadorned.  Those who want to fight facts are simply running away - and we simply don't have time for that.\n\nThe data on CO(2) parts per million, just by itself, is worth the price of admission.  Ascarta and others, there is nothing in history that compares to the current numbers and the current situation.  YOU are the problem now.
273385
Well of course.  Aside from basing the whole enterprise on a combination of false pretenses and a misunderstanding of the implications of our actions, they've made a very big deal about implying that anyone who suggests that they're wrong or that the intended solution is impossible, is "defeatist", or "doesn't support the troops", or "wants the terrorists to win."  So now they're stuck: they HAVE to keep selling a positive message, regardless of the reality--otherwise they'd be guilty of the same things they've accused their opponents of for 3+ years. \n\nFrankly I hope their optimism is borne out, and that in spite of their amazing incompetence everything works out--the alternative is pretty dreadful.  At the same time, why do I keep humming "Waist deep in the big muddy, and the big fool said 'push on'..."?
827637
I'd love to see detailed reports on how Bush is "profiting" from the oil. 6 Years later and your still clinging to your catchy bumper sticker slogans...
251358
no it is not justified..the only reson we ewnt to war in the first place was for oil. and i think everyone knows that. This is wat war is all about, thorughout history form ww1 war was about natural resources liek oil. defiantely not justified
808970
yes, but the question is getting VERY old
247007
It's not just the "Right" addiction to oil. It's the whole country that needs it. Race, Creed Gender, or Religion really doesn't matter. Everyone depends on it. As far as the Gulf, the director of FEMA was the first to admit he had no clue what he was doing. Another Bush Blunder that cost yet more lives, and can't admit when he's wrong.
1176109
I wish people would stop being over dramatic, and here's why:\n\nFirst it only increases the polarization in Washington, which we have too much now anyway.\n\nSecond it makes people think that there isn't a valid argument against the war, which there really is.\n\nThird it make you sound unintelligent. The truth is never cut in dry and when we try to make it that way we are fools.