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What do Jews say about Jesus?  Nothing.  No Jewish religious works reference him, nothing of what he said is studied- he is completely irrelevant to us.  In out opinion, Jesus was just one of many false messiahs throughout history.  Bottom line- to Jews he is a non-entity- of no importance beyond the fact that a religion has been established in his name which has, at times, been used as an excuse to persecute us- and through which lies and defamation about Jews has been spread.
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Jews-for-Jesus is a Christian group in Jewish clothing. To learn about the holiday of Passover try some of these good and authentic Jewish resources:\n\nhttp://www.chabad.org/holidays/passover/default.asp\nhttp://www.aish.com/passthought/passthoughtdefault/Matzah_The_Taste_of_Freedom.asp
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I will explain this in full detail with proof if you don't mind. \n\nOK, in the Bible we have people known as Jews in the N.T. If you look in Strong's concordance under the word Jew. It will state "a member of the tribe of Judah"(only). So that is what the word means in the Bible, a seed of Judah or people from Judea. It's found in 3062 and 3064 of Strong's concordance which state that the word Jew only means Judah. Jew is Old English for the tribe of Judah which is "Lewe".\n\nSo if someone is claiming to be a Jew then they are claiming to be a seed of Judah, Jacobs 4th son. Today we call people Jews because their religion is Judaism or their mom is Jewish thus she practice Judaism. As you can see the modern term, it means people who convert to the religion of Judaism, and not being a seed of Judah.\n\nRev 3:9 and 2:9 state their will be those who claim to be Jews(Judahites thus Israelites) and are not, but do lie" If you call you self a Jew, then you claim to be of Judah. But if you convert it don't change your heritage, you are still a German, Nigerian, or Mexican of Jewish faith. The Messiah say himself that those people who call themselves Jew base on the modern definition are Not Judahites but do lie.\n\nWho are the people who claim to be Jews thus Israelites, they don't claim to be a seed of Israel! We know them as Jews? What else is mention about them base on the scriptures? They don't believe Jesus is the Messiah.\n\n1 John2:22 Who is the LIAR but he who denies that Jesus is the Messiah...\n2John 1:7 Many DECIEVERS have gone out into the world; they do not confess the coming of Jesus the Messiah in the flesh. This is THE DECIEVER and the ANTICHRIST
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first off all American their is a list that one must do to be called the messiah. and yes Jews are still waiting for the first person to complete that check list. \n\nhere it is -- it is detialed and long so bear with\n\nTHE MESSIAH ACCORDING TO JUDAISM\nOne of the basic premises upon which Christianity rests is that Jesus was the Messiah predicted in the Jewish Bible. Judaism has always rejected this belief. Since the goal of "Hebrew Christian" missionaries is to convince Jews that Jesus did in fact fulfill the requirements of the promised Messiah, it is necessary to examine the Jewish understanding of the Messiah to understand why such claims are simply not true.\n\nTHE HEBREW ROOTS OF THE WORD "MESSIAH"\n\nThe Hebrew word for "Messiah" is "Moshiach --." The literal and proper translation of this word is "anointed," which refers to a ritual of anointing and consecrating someone or some-thing with oil. (I Samuel 10:1-2) It is used throughout the Jewish Bible in reference to a wide variety of individuals and objects; for example, a Jewish king (I Kings 1:39), Jewish priests (Leviticus 4:3), prophets (Isaiah 61:1), the Jewish Temple and its utensils (Exodus 40:9-11), unleavened bread (Numbers 6:15), and a non-Jewish king (Cyrus king of Persia, Isaiah 45:1).\n\nTHE CRITERIA TO BE FULFILLED BY THE JEWISH MESSIAH\n\nIn an accurate translation of the Jewish Scriptures, the word "Moshiach" is never translated as "Messiah," but as "anointed."1Nevertheless, Judaism has always maintained a fundamental belief in a Messianic figure. Since the concept of a Messiah is one that was given by G-d to the Jews, Jewish tradition is best qualified to describe and recognize the expected Messiah. This tradition has its foundation in numerous biblical references, many of which are cited below. Judaism understands the Messiah to be a human being (with no connotation of deity or divinity) who will bring about certain changes in the world and who must fulfill certain specific criteria before being acknowledged as the Messiah.\n\nThese specific criteria are as follows:\n\n1) He must be Jewish. (Deuteronomy 17:15, Numbers 24:17)\n\n2) He must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a direct male descendent of both King David (I Chronicles 17:11, Psalm 89:29-38, Jeremiah 33:17, II Samuel 7:12-16) and King Solomon. (I Chronicles 22:10, II Chronicles 7:18)\n\n3) He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel. (Isaiah 27:12-13, Isaiah 11:12)\n\n4) He must rebuild the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. (Micah 4:1)\n\n5) He must bring world peace. (Isaiah 2:4, Isaiah 11:6, Micah 4:3)\n\n6) He must influence the entire world to acknowledge and serve one G-d. (Isaiah 11:9, Isaiah 40:5, Zephaniah 3:9)\n\nAll of these criteria for the Messiah are best stated in the book of Ezekiel chapter 37:24-28: \n\n"And My servant David will be a king over them, and they will all have one shepherd, and they will walk in My ordinances, and keep My statutes, and observe them, and they shall live on the land that I gave to Jacob My servant...and I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their G-d and they will be My people. And the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever." \n\nIf an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, he cannot be the Messiah.\n\nWHY JESUS COULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE JEWISH MESSIAH\n\nA careful analysis of these criteria shows us that, although Jesus was Jewish, he did not fulfill any of the other criteria. An examination of the contradictory accounts of Jesus' genealogy demonstrates a number of difficulties with the fulfillment of the second criterion. Specifically, the New Testament claims that Jesus did not have a phy
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added 2/6/06 @ 11:17am central time\n\nAnd every response to your additions can be answered by going to http://JewsForJudaism.org as well as http://OutreachJudaism.org as well as http://MessiahTruth.org as well as http://www.geocities.com/realjewsforjesus and so many others. But they wont mean anything to you, because you are now a Christian, and no longer a Jew, IF you ever were one......\n----------\nObviously, for a "Jewish man," you know little of the Bible or of Judaism or of Gd.\n\nPLEASE look at the following::\nhttp://WhatJewsBelieve.org\nhttp://Convert.org \n\nThe basic beliefs of Christianity about Jesus are against what the Bible says, and so Real Jews cannot believe in Jesus at all.\n\nThe Christian understanding is that the Messiah, Jesus, died for the sins of the people. The messiah is supposed to be a human sacrifice that is the blood sacrifice necessary for the forgiveness of sin.\n\nBut we are taught in our Torah that no one can die for the sins of another. In Deuteronomy 24:16 it specifically says this:\n\nDeuteronomy 24:16 The fathers shall not \nbe put to death for the children, neither \nshall the children be put to death for\nthe fathers: \nevery man shall be put to death for his \nown sin (eesh b’chet-o yumatu).\n\nIn Exodus 32:30-35, Moses tries to offer himself to atone for the sins of the people. To be written out of Gd's book, means to be written out of the Book of Life, which means Moses was asking to die for the sins of the People. Gd's response is No, it does not work that way, each man dies for his own sin:\n\nExodus 32:30-35 And it came to pass on the \nmorrow, that Moses said unto the people, \nYe have sinned a great sin: and now I will \ngo up unto the Etrnl; perhaps I shall make \nan atonement for your sin. And Moses \nreturned unto the Etrnl, and said, Oh, \nthis people have sinned a great sin, and \nhave made them gods of gold. Yet now, if \nthou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, \nblot me, I pray thee, out of thy book \nwhich thou hast written. And the Etrnl \nsaid unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned \nagainst me, him will I blot out of my \nbook. \n\nThe whole of chapter 18 of the book of Ezekiel is about this idea, that no one can die for someone else's sin. Further, this chapter of Ezekiel teaches us that all we have to do for Gd's forgiveness is to stop doing the Bad and start doing the Good, and Gd will forgive us.\n\nSo, the Bible is clear, no one can die for the sins of another, and this means that Jesus cannot die for anyone else's sins.\n\nChristians also believe that one needs a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin, that one who does not have such a blood sacrifice will die in their sins, and go to hell, except for the sacrifice of Jesus.\n\nThis, too, is UnBiblical. The Bible describes blood sacrifices for the forgiveness of sin in the Book of Leviticus. But it is in Leviticus itself, in the middle of the discussion of the sin sacrifices, that we are taught that we do not need a blood sacrifice to be forgiven for our sins. Offering a blood sacrifice was an expensive thing to do for the family offering the animal. Was forgiveness then, to be only for the rich? No, because if one could not afford a blood sacrifice then one who sins could bring flour, which has no blood and no life as their sacrifice, and Gd forgave them!\n\nLeviticus 5:11-13; But if he be not able to \nbring two turtledoves, or two young pigeons, \nthen he that sinned shall bring for his \noffering the tenth part of an ephah of fine \nflour for a sin offering; he shall put no oil \nupon it, neither shall he put any \nfrankincense thereon: for it is a sin \noffering.\n\nFurthermore, read the Book of Jonah. In Jonah, the People of Ninevah do three things in order to be forgiven by Gd. They fast, they pray for forgiveness, and they stop doing the Bad and start doing the Good, and Gd forgave them! This is exactly what we do on Yom Kippur, we fast, we pray for forgiveness, and, h
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I am a Jew and hear people say all sorts of things.\n\nYou will only continue very many diff things, since from the Jews came all other western and even some eastern religions like Bhuddism.\n\nSo lets start with the first Jew. Here it is from the Talmud.\n\nHis name was Abraham, he had an Idea that the world was created by a greater something, he could not name it, so he called it The Name, untill this day Jews call GD 'HaShem', which means 'The Name'.\n\nThe decendants of Abraham formed as 12 tribes. We where made slaves in Egypt for 200 years and as proffesionals and forced labrors built up Egypt. Its a long story and you can read it in the Bible, but eventualy we came to Mount Sinai and received the Torah.\n\nThe Torah was translated into Greek and from there into all other languages, it has been called the Old Testment.\n\nThen came a young Jewish kid who was rejected by his rabbi, who was one of the top ones for the reason of immodesty, so basicly he was a college reject. He didnt mean to, but he created a whole new religion. All he claimed where a few wil things but over 2000 years people distorted it with their imagination to look like it looks now, its called Christianity. Jesus wouldnt know what it was if he where alive today, and from Heaven he looks down and both laughs and cries at it.\n\nMuslims came later, they call GD as Allah which is one of the names GD is called in the Torah. Bhuddism is based on Kabbalah which a feild in Torah Academia.\n\nSo cut it short, we beleive in the Torah. We beleive it is life. The Torah gives 613 commandmants, of all sorts. 248 of them posative are 'Though Shalt...'365 of them are negative commands meaning 'Thou Shalt Not do/be/go/put/etc...'. We believe the Torah speaks to us as the Word of God and is the manual for life. There are 248 bones standing up the human body and 365 muscles, sinews and ligaments, holding them together, moving them etc.\n\nUs Jews consider our Torah not just copywrite, but any non-jew ith motives of breaching the copywrite is forbidden to read it and liable to a death penalty. Christianity and a bloody 2000 years of history in the west was from breaching that copywrite, distorting it, adding stuff, taking out, by mad people.\n\n\nProverbs 3:13-20\n\n13 Blessed is the man who finds wisdom, the man who gains understanding, 14 for she is more profitable than silver and yields better returns than gold. 15 She is more precious than rubies; nothing you desire can compare with her. 16 Long life is in her right hand; in her left hand are riches and honor. 17 Her ways are pleasant ways, and all her paths are peace. 18 She is a tree of life to those who embrace her; those who lay hold of her will be blessed. 19 By wisdom the Lord laid the earth's foundations, by understanding he set the heavens in place; 20 by his knowledge the deeps were divided, and the clouds let drop the dew. \n\nWe are like a real family, though all over the place and allways on the move when persecuted, each Jew knows 90% of worldwide Jewish family names, we help each other out.
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Well, first, Jesus was Jewish...he was NOT Christian.\nSecondly, there is little information available about the historical Jesus - most of what we know is from the writings of others about what Jesus said and taught (again, all within the context of Jewish learning).\n\nregarding "mussulman", I assume you mean Muslim?\nLeast we forget, Abraham and Sarah had two children - Issac and Ishmael (actually, Ishmael was born to Hagar, the handmaid of Sarah).\nBecause of the problems between the two women, Abraham sent Hagar and Ishmael away, but God blessed them as well as the people of Israel.\nIshmael became the family linage to the Islamic faith.\nNow, back to Jesus and whether you will enter heaven if you are/are not Christian: remember, Jesus was Jewish and Jewish faith teachs that all will be blessed in the next world as long as we do acts of loving kindness in the here and now, regardless of what our faith is.\nNow, in my book, THAT is the real grace of God.\nAnd now, you know the rest of the story.
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jesus was burried the way of the jewish people because he was jewish.  his followers called him rabbi, which means teacher, they became the christians, the ones who didnt believe he was the massiah remained jewish and just didnt follow him or his ways. there is a good site for you called beliefnet.com   check it out.
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Jesus was a Jew.\n\nHe wasn't Black, \nHe wasn't White,\nHe wasn't Chinese,\nHe was a Jew.\n\nThe Bible is very clear on his heritage.\nSome people just choose to believe what they want to.\n(I'm not a Christian either, but this question has a very simple answer).
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Jesus was not killed by the Jews. He gave His life willingly as a sacrifice for sin. This was prophesied and fufilled. The Jews rejected their Messiah, yes. But this was also prophesied to happen. The Jews will be redeamed and saved in the end. This is also prophesied and illustrated in Romans. It is very important that you read 17 verses further...\n\nRomans 11:25\nFor I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.\n\nOnce the number of gentiles is come in, God will remove the blinders from Israel.\n___________________________\nSorry, I always want to make that point regarding who killed Jesus. Just want to get it straight. ;)\n\nAs to your detail, Christians should NEVER ignore the Jewish people. They should take great interest in, for example, their Seders. I even did an interesting study on it. http://tinyurl.com/nchkw\nI have always been a proSemitic. I also designed the Holyland Virtual Tour CD. I have been to Israel 3 times (working on 4) and always encourage people to tour there. You will learn so much about the Jewish people there without media bias to poison what you see. I encourage my kids to bless the Jewish people whenever they can. The Jewish people have come to realize they have only one true friend who has stood by them through thick and thin... the evangelical Christian. It perplexes them, but they appreciate it with tears. And I appreciate them and all of the incredible benefits they have developed for our world in medicine, technology and agriculture. Too many benefits to list here.
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The Messianic movement is a fraud.  It started many years ago with an organization call Jews for Jesus.  This organization tried to convince Jews that you coud accept Jesus as your lord and savior, and still remain a Jew.\n\nThis is, of course, rediculous on its face.  WHen you accept Jesus as your lord, you are by definition a Christian, and since the Jewish people deny Jesus as both Messiah and G-d, you cannot be called a Jew.\n\nToday the actual goals of Jews for Jesus is well known.  Their agenda is to convert Jews to become evangelical Christians, and to remove anything Jewish from their beliefs.  This agenda ws documented in secret memoranda by the leaders of Jews for Jesus.  So today, many of the mainline Christian denominations do not support Jews for Jesus with fubds.\n\nThe Messianic movement has tried to take it's place.  They as well claimm that you can accept Jesus and still remain Jesus.  In the Messianic movement the entire Tanakah (the Jewish bible) is reinterpreted to fortell the coming of Jesus.  These people will tell you that there are litterally 1000 prophecies relating to Jesus in the Hewish bible (what they call the old testament).  THis is a croc!\n\nI have always asked myself this question.  If Christians are so convinced that they have the one truth of G-d, then why do they use these deceptive organizations to try and trick Jews into converting?  G-d would never approve!\n\nWhat does this subterfuge say about Christianity?  Nothing positive!!
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"Jews" for Jesus are not Jews, and there is no difference between them and fundamentalist Christianity, who are the ones paying for such ministries as the "Jews" for Jesus who missionize Jews.\n\nMany people, Christians and some Jews as well, erroneously believe that just as one can be Black and Christian, just as one can be Oriental and Christian, one can also be Jewish and Christian. It is not true. The Jews are not a race. There is no genetic code passed from either mother or father to the child that makes that child a Jew. Even if all, or some, of the genetic code in a child could be proved to be of Jewish Origin, that would not make the child a Jew. Jewish law determines who is a Jew, and Jewish law is quite clear. If a person's mother is a Jew, and that person has not converted to another faith, then that person will be considered fully Jewish, so long as that person wishes to identify solely as a Jew. Although one cannot convert to become a member of a race, one who converts to Judaism does, indeed, become fully a Jew. Similarly, if one converts from Judaism to another faith, one is no longer a Jew.\n\nMessianic "Judaism" is a product of the successful missionizing campaign of such ministries as the "Jews" for Jesus, who try to make it look as though one can be a Jew and a Christian at the same time. By definition, one who believes in Jesus as their savior is a Christian. One who accepts Jesus as anything other than a man who once lived, but died without doing anything the Real Messiah will do when he gets here (hence the reason for a Second Coming!), is a Christian and no longer a Jew.\n\nThe Orthodox Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, writing for the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, for the National Conference of Synagogue Youth, the Orthodox Youth Group, in his book The Real Messiah, on page 21 wrote:\n\n""This brings us back to our original question: \nWhat can a Jew lose by embracing Christianity? \n\nThe answer is: Everything. \n\nChristianity negates the fundamentals of Jewish \nfaith, and one who accepts it rejects the very \nessence of Judaism. Even if he continues to keep \nall of the rituals, it is the same as if he \nabandoned Judaism completely. \n\nA Jew who accepts Christianity might call himself \na "Messianic 'Jew,'" but he is no longer a Jew. \nHe can no longer even be counted as part of a \nJewish Congregation.""\n\nWe Jews define for ourselves who is and who is not a Jew, and not the Jewish wannabees, and the targets of this newest technique in missionizing Jews. \n\nThe majority of the membership of Messianic ""Jewish"" congregations, as a matter of fact, were not ever Jewish up until recently, and this is also true about their Messianic ""rabbis."" Many of these "rabbis" change their names to something that sounds stereotypically Jewish, in order to better target those they want to convert to Christianity.\n\nAs the success of this newest technique in missionizing the less knowledgeable Jews increased, the percentage of membership of ex-Jews as members of their messianic congregations has also increased, now running about 50-50.\n\nIt is also interesting to note that a large number of people converting TO Judaism have come to real Judaism from having been exposed to Messianic ""Judaism."" \n\nAt a messianic congregation, all references to Christian theology has been changed to make it sound more Jewish, and therefore more pallatable to their targets. They will only refer to Jesus as 'Yeshua' (which would not have been his name), they will say 'moshiach' instead of 'christ,' they will say 'synagogue' instead of 'church,' and on and on, in keeping with the techniques described in the book Understanding Church Growth by Donald MacGavran, who helped the idea of Indiginous Cultural Evangelism get started. \n\nTh
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PLEASE look at the following::\nhttp://WhatJewsBelieve.org\nhttp://Convert.org \n\nThe basic beliefs of Christianity about Jesus are against what the Bible says, and so Real Jews cannot believe in Jesus at all.\n\nThe Christian understanding is that the Messiah, Jesus, died for the sins of the people. The messiah is supposed to be a human sacrifice that is the blood sacrifice necessary for the forgiveness of sin.\n\nBut we are taught in our Torah that no one can die for the sins of another. In Deuteronomy 24:16 it specifically says this:\n\nDeuteronomy 24:16 The fathers shall not \nbe put to death for the children, neither \nshall the children be put to death for\nthe fathers: \nevery man shall be put to death for his \nown sin (eesh b’chet-o yumatu).\n\nIn Exodus 32:30-35, Moses tries to offer himself to atone for the sins of the people. To be written out of Gd's book, means to be written out of the Book of Life, which means Moses was asking to die for the sins of the People. Gd's response is No, it does not work that way, each man dies for his own sin:\n\nExodus 32:30-35 And it came to pass on the \nmorrow, that Moses said unto the people, \nYe have sinned a great sin: and now I will \ngo up unto the Etrnl; perhaps I shall make \nan atonement for your sin. And Moses \nreturned unto the Etrnl, and said, Oh, \nthis people have sinned a great sin, and \nhave made them gods of gold. Yet now, if \nthou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, \nblot me, I pray thee, out of thy book \nwhich thou hast written. And the Etrnl \nsaid unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned \nagainst me, him will I blot out of my \nbook. \n\nThe whole of chapter 18 of the book of Ezekiel is about this idea, that no one can die for someone else's sin. Further, this chapter of Ezekiel teaches us that all we have to do for Gd's forgiveness is to stop doing the Bad and start doing the Good, and Gd will forgive us.\n\nSo, the Bible is clear, no one can die for the sins of another, and this means that Jesus cannot die for anyone else's sins.\n\nChristians also believe that one needs a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin, that one who does not have such a blood sacrifice will die in their sins, and go to hell, except for the sacrifice of Jesus.\n\nThis, too, is UnBiblical. The Bible describes blood sacrifices for the forgiveness of sin in the Book of Leviticus. But it is in Leviticus itself, in the middle of the discussion of the sin sacrifices, that we are taught that we do not need a blood sacrifice to be forgiven for our sins. Offering a blood sacrifice was an expensive thing to do for the family offering the animal. Was forgiveness then, to be only for the rich? No, because if one could not afford a blood sacrifice then one who sins could bring flour, which has no blood and no life as their sacrifice, and Gd forgave them!\n\nLeviticus 5:11-13; But if he be not able to \nbring two turtledoves, or two young pigeons, \nthen he that sinned shall bring for his \noffering the tenth part of an ephah of fine \nflour for a sin offering; he shall put no oil \nupon it, neither shall he put any \nfrankincense thereon: for it is a sin \noffering.\n\nFurthermore, read the Book of Jonah. In Jonah, the People of Ninevah do three things in order to be forgiven by Gd. They fast, they pray for forgiveness, and they stop doing the Bad and start doing the Good, and Gd forgave them! This is exactly what we do on Yom Kippur, we fast, we pray for forgiveness, and, hopefully, we stop doing the Bad and start doing the Good, and Gd forgives us. And what book do we read on Yom Kippur afternoon? The Book of Jonah!\n\nJonah 3:7-10 And he caused it to be proclaimed \nand published through Ninevah, by the decree \nof the King and his nobles, saying, Let \nneither man nor beast, herd nor flock taste \nanything; let them not feed nor drink water; \nbut let man and beast be covered with \nsackcloth, and cry mightily unto Gd; yea, let \nthem turn every one from his evil
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They have all missed the boat, here.\n\nThe Jews saw Jesus as a heretic who CLAIMED to be the Son of the living God.  He was a madman who equaled himself to God, and for that he was made to suffer and die.\n\nOf course, the difference here is that Jesus was right.\n\nTo Christianity, Jesus is the God-man, who came into the world to free us from sin.\nTo Judaism, Jesus was a misguided heretic who paid dearly for his false teachings.
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How could he like Christianity - a religion that glorified the life of a Jew - Jesus.  But he was against anything that did not support his National Socialism.  He didn't kill Jews - however, just because of their religion - he saw Jews as more than just a religion - but also a race of beings.
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Nope,  to a Jewish person, Jesus Christ is just a historical figure.  It would be like an American stubbing his toe and exclaiming, "James K. Polk!"
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That's what he said, and, if you think about it, it is absolutly true.  In the beginning Jesus led a sect of Jews.  Then the gentliles who began to follow Jesus didn't like the Jewish regulations, so, they split off.  That began a long history of the  followers of Jesus splitting over and over again, often over things Jesus said nothing at all about.