So who thinks that the issue over ILLEGAL immigrants is going to start a civil war?
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If they are to much of a coward to stand up for themselves in their home country, what makes you think it will be any different here? \n\nBTW, just to set the record straight on a few things, there is no "Native American", the American Indians are of Asian decent, so it seems they are immigrants as well. So the line  of thinking that we are all immigrants is ignorant. This is a land of laws now, it wasn't when the Europeans came here. You CANNOT compare what happened back then to now, it is completely stupid to try and do so. You follow the laws of the land or you are a criminal, so all illegal immigrants, are criminals by definition, if you could not infer from the illegal part in their title.\n\nAs far as the constitution goes, they are not part of this country, they are illegal, and criminals. They have no rights, similar to a prisoner. They forfeit any rights they COULD have when they broke the law coming into this country. Now if they want to come over here legally that is a different discussion.
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I think it is election year politics. I think they will all talk tough and then when it comes time to vote, this bill will be so watered down and ineffective that it will actually add to the problem rather than solve anything. Illegals need to be removed from this country. Illegals need to be turned away before they can get into this country. Our borders need to be secured for more than this reason. What good does it do taking lighters and nail files from american citizens on flights if there are over 800,000 undocumented, unscreened security risks entering ovewr our southern border each year. We are arranging deck chairs on the titanic.
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Deport Em ALL NOW\n\nSent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:35 PM \n\nSubject: VIDEO: HISPANICS ADMIT THEY ARE ENGAGED IN "CIVIL WAR" WITHIN THE UNITED STATES\n\nSource: \n\nImmigration Watchdog \n\nhttp://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/...\n\nThey openly state they have "The armor, the infantry and the artillery" to wage war here.This video PROVES beyond any doubt, the people marching in our streets under Mexican and other foreign flags, over pending immigration legislation, are engaged in a WAR against our nation.The U.S. Government has failed its duty to protect this land from these invaders; invaders who are openly stating they intend to takeover a portion of this land and carve out their own "Mestizo nation of Aztlan."\n\nClick below to play the video \n\n     http://tinyurl.com/pqzpe \n\nRead The Story-Watch The Video-Decide For Yourself
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I think I like this kind of talk\nBottom line: The issue may come down to what one veteran pollster called "sequencing" -- where voters want the government to demonstrate that it's serious about reducing illegal immigration before legalizing 12 million people. That would mean first controlling the border and creating a tamper-proof citizenship card so that employers who hire illegal workers can be prosecuted then assembling a legalization plan.  \n\nI could definitely live with this.Thanks for the great information\nIn the words of that great sage Yogi Berra(not sure of the spelling)\n"It ain't over till its over"
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It isn't being dealt with at all,and won't be until the citizens have had enough, and clean-house. When it happens, as it must, I just hope it's done without bloodshed, but I doubt it. Those people up there aren't likely to give-up without a fight. They have had too much power for too long, and continue usurping more from the people, to which the power in this country lawfully belong.
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I thought the big debate was about ILLEGAL immigrants. I don't really care if illegal immigrants enter the country either as long as they are willing to work hard, which most of them do.\n\nAnd even the "Native Americans" were immigrants too when they crossed the land bridge in Alaska. They just happened to show up in America first.
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As A liberal I agree completely that the amount of money on what is an unjust war is obscene.  However, the amount of money local, state, and federal agencies are spending on the illegal entrant problem is hardly acceptable.  While it is true that there have always been problems with illegal entry, the last decade has seen this problem mushroom.  It may be the same old problem but it is far worse than ever before.  Couple a loosely guarded border with homeland security concerns and the economic burdens involved and you have a real problem.\n\nIs it a distraction from more pressing problems?  Perhaps.  The loss of civil rights, the loss of habeus corpus, our dropping the ball in Afghanistan, the morass in Iraq and the criminal lack of a reasonable working health care system in this country are far more dire problems in my judgement.  However, we can not downplay the fact that illegal entry is a serious problem that must be dealt with.  Our government should and must eb able to deal with many sets of problems at one time.\n\nThis problem will not be dealt with though, not until our government goes after the company's (big and little, corporation and farm) that depend on hiring illegal entrants for their profits.  We can build as many fences as there is metal available and people will come in while company after company recruits them, hires them and in some cases helps them gain entry.  To go after these the coporations that hire these people would mean those same corporations would stop contributing to political campaigns.  We'll see if that ever happens.
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It is and is going to become more unstable, there are too many factors there that made this civil war and who knows who likes it and who doesn't?\nIt will ruin US long-term interest, from Domino theory and great Middle East to Iraq oil but maybe there are good things about it that I don't know.
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I'd love to hear what our forces in Iraq think about this illegal immigration issue that is going on back home.  If any are on here, I hope they will speak up and tell us what they think.
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...if anything, it will be a wake up call to those who didn't think this issue effected them.  All it will take is a ton of illegals and their apologists ranting and raving about "their land" and "their rights" to show average Americans that their nation is under assault.  The thing is, this whole deal was unnecessary...but the politicans wanted their neat little minority voting bloc all tied up in a pretty bow, so here we are, tip-toeing around the issue and discussing how to make 12 million LAWBREAKERS legal, knowing all the while we'll be right back where we are in less than 10 years.  All I know is that I'm stocking up on ammo.
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HAHA...\n\nMy Idea Exactly...\n\nOr MAYBE WE SHOULD LAY DOWN A MINE FIELD TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION...
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well, this illegal problem has been brewing for yrs, even since the last amnesty. this has been an issue that politicians hav avoided for at least 10-15 yrs, but since no one wants to focus on IRAQ & GAS prices, the immigration prob will do for now. this problem has been the cause of our gvmt & employers who indeed make it easy for illegals to work & stay here. ppl r just p*ssed off cuz it has been blown up & its easier to hate & assimilate than it is to hav a voice & an open mind. personally, i think that the honest, hard working non-recipients of public assistance should b able 2 stay if they pass a background check, etc.. after all, the blame should b placed on the American gvmt & Americans. people will treat u the way u allow them to treat u- & dam we've let it go on 4 so long we as americans r to blame. but that's me & we're all entitled to our own opinion-or lack there of.
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Only reason is cause, this is a "internal" problem. But that's how it is with dividing cities. Poors (in this case: illegal aliens), move to cities, than the middle to upper class move to the suburbs.\n\nIn conclusion, I don't think this will really stir much division of the U.S., because it's not like the Civil War. The illegal immigrationists aren't being used by the people who support them.\n\nAmericans will come to their senses, and support NO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!
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Great minds think alike ;)\n\n100% Agreed!\n\nYes, special interests that are behind these protests, etc. are trying to obfuscate the real issue, by making it about pro- or anti-IMMIGRATION, when in reality what we're talking about is ILLEGAL immigration.  They are not arguing based on the facts of the issue (because they can't win this way) but by name-calling and creating divisions.
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People will forget all about this issue when "American Idol" and "The OC" start their new seasons.The rest of us will eventually tire of going around in circles.And when that happens the government will give the illegals amnesty (quietly) and that will be that.The will be no end to it.10 yrs from now the politicians may us the issue again to get voters rilled up.
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I hope it's a very long tunnel .... :(  I'm sorry, but with all this shouting racist by most people who either are illegal immigrants, or for some mysterious reason pro illegal immigration, one can't but help feeling a bit peeved ... to say the least ... I mean, since when did it become racist to want to protect the borders and uphold the law of the land?
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It would become a civil war if any of the ethnic group decided en mass to secede from Iraq, or try and take over. right now, aside from the "insurgent attacks", none of the groups has walked away from the central government.