Does anyone have the right to choose birth or death time?
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Ye have not chosen me, rather I have chosen you.\nAll run a human race, but it's won by one, for all.\nAnd it's won by the "one man" that's first finished,\nhttp://www.godshew.org/HumanRace.htm\nin which (law/grace)things are an "allegory": Gal 4. \n\nIf any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant; and die.\nIf any bring you another gospel, let him be accursed.\nIt won't change the end that's notably already written,\nbut it will make more evident what's already "evident":\nthat no man is justified by law in sight of God(Grace).\n\nThe God of "all grace" make you "perfect"(merciful)\nafter ye(do greatly err) suffer awhile in yer law law.\n\nThe "grace" of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.
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if the time fertilization is taken as your correct birth time,do any one knows his birth time.
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This is a very open question whose answer depends on the condition that makes the baby "very sick"...if you're talking about a condition where the baby will die either late in pregnancy or very shortly after birth (as from some kinds of genetic anomalies or severe brain defects), then abortion would not be a wrong choice if that's what the mother wanted, to spare the heartache of watching a baby die after birth. If you're talking about a condition where the baby could be treated after birth and has at least some chance for a happy life, then that's a different story altogether. It's what they call a slippery slope argument, one that has caused uproar in many disability communities, human rights groups, etc., etc. There isn't a "right" or "wrong" answer that won't offend someone, somewhere. Personally, because of my own background, I would NOT have an abortion because the baby had a problem, unless it was something COMPLETELY incompatible with a happy life.
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Wow!!  Either you're really brave, or a pot stirrer!!!  I like that! ;) I think you really opened a can of worms, though.  \nI believe in the right to choose, and also that the soul enters whenever it is ready... I lost a baby between my two kids, and it broke my heart. And, no, I didn't abort it, it miscarried.  I guess that the soul who would have used that vehicle chose not to come into this world at that time.  The whole idea that the body is the whole of a person, that the death of a body equals death of a soul, is absurd.  We come here to learn whatever lessons our soul has charted out, and sometimes we aren't quite ready when the body, or embryo, that we thought would provide us with the best opportunity for learning those lessons is ready for us.  At that point there is either a spontaneous death, or, sometimes, the mother's soul and the incoming soul have agreed that an abortion is part of the experience for each. If a soul is meant to be incarnated at a given point in time, there will be a vehicle ready to facilitate that incarnation.  No soul has to go without just because someone decided that she wasn't, for whatever reason, able to play the role of mother at that time.  \nThose who judge others should be very careful that they don't set themselves up to prove that they would truly do a "more virtuous" job with the same set of circumstances.  I get so sick of people who say, "well, if I were you, I'd do it differently."  Wow, don't quite realize the absurdity of that, do you?  If you were me, you'd have all my past experiences, and all my reasons, and you'd make  precisely the same choice I did, because you would then cease to be you.   \n  And just a word  or two to the man who feels that "such a woman" shouldn't be allowed to ever be a mother.....you aren't ever going to be allowed to be a mother, either...maybe that's because you're no more qualified than those you are judging.  And maybe next time you come back here to learn lessons, you'll decide to experience for yourself what it feels like to be faced with such a hideous decision.  Have you ever held the hand of a heartbroken woman who feels that she has no other choice, and felt your own heart break because you couldn't help her come to some sort of peace with the gut-wrenching guilt, and self-loathing that followed?  Have you ever thought about how horribly difficult such a decision must be, and what awful straits a person would have to be in, to even consider that as an option?  \nThe Cherokee say that a man should not judge until he has walked a thousand miles in another's mocassins.  Do you qualify?  I think not, or you would have learned compassion.  And if you are a Christian, do you really think Jesus would be as beligerant and vicious as you are showing yourself to be?  I thought the goal of christianity was for people to emulate Jesus, and that includes having the same loving, compassionate, non-judging attitudes he has.  All of you who judge should re-think the place where you are standing.  If you were utterly without sin, then you would be utterly compassionate.  If He isn't judging, how can you justify doing it in His place?
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Nope!!!! Nobody has a right to take a life...\nThat includes the person himself.
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Oh that is a tough situation and I dont think you can make one decision that will fit everyone. I think it would depend on how far into the pregnancy you are, which would still be a tough decision to make. I don't have kids or particularly want them, but if I were pregnant and I was in the situation I personally would want to be kept alive long enough for my child to survive. Most sane normal women would want that. That is a personal decision however and the goverment should keep its nose out.
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You give a good argument for pro choice, and to me, it's a refreshing one.  I am in agreement with a woman's right to choose but become less committed when the babe becomes a viable age.  I have worked in neo-natal units and clearly see that they are more than a "fetus" at 24 weeks (or less) of gestation. I would like to trust the woman to make a decision that is best for her own well-being, but with consideration of the unborn potential person she has created.  Unfortunately, not all women are so unselfish and generous, and even go so far as to use abortion as a frequent form of birth control, which disgusts me.  I have also had the experience of these same "mothers" not being fit to take care of themselves, let alone a baby, and one with the multiple health concerns that many premature babies must deal with throughout their lives.  This too, consumes the same, or more, of the natural resources you speak of and is also commonly a drain on society's welfare system.  \n\nSo, the debate continues.  Yours is a fresh perspective.  Thank you.
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I think the birth mother should have the right for "no contact." There could, however, be an intermediary who could be contacted in the event of a medical emergency.\n\nWomen need to have this safeguard so they won’t feel pressured by the judgemental spirits of others about their unwanted pregnancy. It’s very sad that abortions are frequently chosen because of these reasons.
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It's just "a baby is born every x seconds" and "a person dies every x seconds" and a bit of basic math every second to figure out what the new number is. If you have those rates, you should be fine.\n\nNote, of course, that the rates change over time. If the birth rate is higher now than it was, say, 25 years ago, then 25 years from now, when these kids are having children, there will be more parents than now and so children born at a faster rate than now. This means that you won't be able to run your clock indefinately without tweaking the numbers to match reality occasionally, unless you're willing to go much deeper into the statistics.
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Some bad assumptions here.  There is no such thing as a wrongful birth, at least by what is implied in the sub statement.  Any birth results in a child unable to care for itself.  The duty is of the parents to provide for it. If the state determines the parents are irresponsible, then the state assumes the duty.  Otherwise, the parents may try to get another to assume the duty of raising the child through adoption.  But, regardless of the law, the logical connection between the act of reproduction and a birth leads directing to the duty of seeing the child is cared for. \n\nPlaying philosophical games with child care responsibility leaves some adults confused on what is right and wrong and thus results in unnecessary problems for children and society.
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Let's say that was me in that womb.  Personally, I would not want to die that early.  I'll take my chances!\n\nI think you are mixing up a lot of issues and questions.  \n\nLook, if there is a creator, and a lot of people truly believe this, for many good reasons, then He creates each of us for a reason.  Who are we to also play God.  \n\nI know some people do not believe this, and they will make their own choices.  And no one knows what the judgement will be.  You assume alot.
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Do you mean do I think a person should have the right to a choice?  Yes, I do.\n\nThe biggest reason - in the case of rape.  Why should a woman who was raped be forced to carry the monster baby for 9 months, have to put up with questions from well-meaning people who do not know the whole story (are you excited?  what does the daddy think?  what are you hoping for? etc) and then, after giving the baby up for adoption, have to spend the rest of her life wondering if she will one day have a "blast from the past", the child, now an adult, tracking her down, not caring what horrible memories they are digging up, just because they are "curious".\n\nThen, there's the factor - who would take care of all the unwanted babies?  Would the taxpayers have to foot the bill for them?  \n\nThen there would be the ones that keep the child even though they never wanted them, and then proceed to abuse and/or neglect them their entire lives.
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I don't know if it should be considered a "right". I think each case should be determined on its own merit. Some say they are against, some say they are for it. Who is right? If a person is terminally ill, in incredible pain, why shouldn't they be able to make a decision to have a doctor assisted suicide? They are many who agree that the death penalty is moral, so why shouldn't the right to die be considered to be moral. Some places consider execution and abortion to be legal, each in each instance the taking of a life. Yet they have a problem with assisted suicide.
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Neither, I'm in the middle on this issue.  It's a shame most people don't know there's a middle ground.\n\nYou said something original.\n\nOK, why?: To say a single cell should be granted the rights of a human person is probably one of the most absurd things I've ever heard.  On the other hand, to say it's OK to kill a 7 month old fetus that is little different from a new-born is just as absurd.\n\nMiddle ground can be achieved when we realize what it means to be human... to think (at least to the point that you might care if you were aborted or not). That is why I believe we should limit abortion to 22 weeks - the time of the development of the neo-cortex.
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Go, mom.\n\nOkay, I will not dip too deep into this because this subject is, well, one I am passionate about.\n\nMurder is murder. I don't care if the government say that you can kill a baby, that you have the right; you don't. Women have a right to THEIR bodies, yes, but after a baby is concieved, it is a seperate entity, a seperate person;human being. It is connect to, BUT no longer HER body.  Okay, What happens when you kill an adult, or, you know, let's say six of them? You will most likely get the death penalty. Why? Because you have no right, or 'decision' to make about someone else's body or life. Oh, and you want to know how law-proven guilty criminals that get death row die?...a lot more peacefully and a lot less gruesome and more human than an innocent baby that is aborted dies.\n\nI'm not an activist, but I'm sick of it. I'm sick of people supporting murder. People that cannot live up to their responsibilities of having sex, should NOT have it. I hear you on the birth control method. My mother had always told me about a roommate she used to have in college. She had several abortions, and used it as birth control. Well God (or nature, whatever you believe, or don't believe) Stepped in, and when she settled down from the college years, and got married, she was not able to have children anymore. It is wrong. If you cannot live up to your responsibilities, or not be safe and responsible, or are promiscuous it's not the baby's fault. Why should the baby have to die for your sins, your mistakes. It's believed that everyone is born with sin, but not even giving them a chance to have a life of their own is selfish. You are taking a life, and that is not right, or your place to decide.\n\nI have been through the issue with a rape. If I hadn't of had a miscarriage, I would have given the poor thing up for adoption, at least. And I was 15 at this time, a very scared, abused girl, but...killing it never once crossed my mind; I do not condone that at ALL.... and that experience messed me up very badly, to this day.  That is a terrible spot to be in, you didn't ask for it, it's not your fault, but it's not the baby's either. I mean, I won't lie, I felt terrible for what had happened (worthlessness, guilt, filth, self-pity, all the emotional baggage that came with it) but I would have felt so much more if I would have taken that life away, for nothing more than my selfishness.\n\nThere are plenty of barren, sterile couples, or just loving couples that would LOVE to have a baby, but cannot conieve that would take unwanted babies'. If it is women's right to kill their children, then why do people go to jail for it after they are outside of their womb? Hmm, it's the SAME THING. If the government says that is is their RIGHT to murder that is fu cked. What about that child's RIGHT to live, to have a life, even if it is sent to a different family. People are irresponsible and selfish. fu ck them.\n\nOh, and a smaller dip into the  the whole "they they're not babies until.. blah, blah." ,It still is a human being, no matter how small. It takes shape after a while, fingers, toes, fingernails form early on....etc. They develop faster than lawmakers gave credit... If a person other than the mother assaults a mother, and the baby dies, it is murder, if the mother decides to kill it, it's her right?\n\nThat's not right.\n\nEither be responsible, live up to your responsibilities, give it up, or just be humane.\n\n\nOOOH, \n\nAnd I can't go on anymore. I tried to sum it up for you. I can't go futher, or I will rewrite it in more detail and right a freaking book, right here and now...
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I know you don't actually want an answer - you seem more interested in pontificating.  Be that as it may, it is perfectly easy to justify a belief in the legality of abortion vs. the legality of the death penalty.  For me, capital punishment is a governmental rights issue - that is, I do not believe the government has the right to deprive its citizens of life under any circumstances.  It's simply something the government should not be allowed to do, because allowing it for some people (odious though they may be) makes it easier to apply it for lesser crimes - a slippery slope argument, essentially.\n\nAbortion is a different issue, because (1) it is not the government depriving someone of life; (2) there's no scientific reason to argue that life begins at conception; and (3) if we assume life begins at conception, then all laws regarding children would apply to zygotes/fetuses, which would be unworkable in any society.
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