Logical Progression of Christian (ID) beliefs?
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If JAT is correct, why do animals die?\n\nDo animals "sin?"\n\nTrying to make logical sense of the bible will only lead to insanity.
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Facts ... I believe in "God". I am not able to accept the Christian version of monotheism. I consider it illogical and it makes no sense to me. I do not lie awake at night not believing. The Bible is not perfect. It has been mistranslated by numerous translators in various translations. Christianity is not the worlds longest running religion. There was Judaism and Hinduism and several others prior to 2000 years ago that are still alive and well. You asked for facts. Those are facts. I'm not Christian. That doesn't bother me. You are Christian. That doesn't bother me either. Instead of worrying about others and their relationship with "God" or their lack of same maybe there's something else you need to be looking at? Just a thought. And that's a fact. :-)
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It means the obvious, but first go back to 24:9. The next step  is for believers to be rounded up and some killed. Note!  I did not say "Christian" It is among them that we find those making the "800-call-Satan" to report you..yes, from your own house and church.  I do not go by "Christian" I am a member of the Messiah's flock. I hear his voice and to a stranger I will not listen
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I have a ton of 'em for all different kinds.  Depends on what you need. Start out with these cults, Scientology, Church of Jesus Christs of Latter Day Saints, Jehovah's Witnesses, Bahia, Christian Scientists, Church Universal and Triumphant, Raelens, The Seventh Day Adventists and the ICC(International Church of Christ), The Family. You are going to have a problem with a few of them because the only things out thee are either information the church releases or the anti part of the equation.  There is very little real neutral evidence on them.  I will just start with the generics and let you go from there.
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You ask a VERY good question...  While some of the religions you mention say there is no right or wrong path so long as you are a "good person", the three Semetic most widely accepted and growing doctrines say there is a right and wrong way/path.  Gomer, SOMEBODY is wrong.  I choose to follow a faith that I have been lead to by God.  I would recommend a couple of books to anyone who was interested.  These books DO NOT ask you to take faith on faith, but to examine the evidence... A Case for Faith and A Case for Christ by Lee Strobel.\n\nAs for your add on question... those who have never heard the Good News.  There is scripture that says if you have never heard the Good News of Jesus Christ and live a Godly life without knowing the Word there is a place for you with the Lord.  Though once you have heard, you are out of excuses.  You can't "la la la I can't hear you" out of that.\n\nAgain, you seem to ask a valid question... be open to the answers and you may learn something that you didn't know before.  Like I said, look at something that makes a case, evidence.  Be a jury that weighs evidence... not just someones slick words on yahoo.  Don't even believe me... if you make an honest effort to learn you should come away with something
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Well, there are two cases to consider. The first is the one you spoke of, when they already believe theirs is the right choice. The second is the case of genuine curiosity, wanting to know what fundamental truths support which argument. In the first case, it could be to try to convert others or simply to reassure onesself that the justifications for other faiths are invalid (although this is from a biased perspective). In the second case, asking a question like this would hopefully bring out strong arguments from many sides. It's interesting to weigh these points against one another.
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My source of morality growing up (and up until Pangel helped me to see things differently) has been what was drilled into my head by very conservative Christianity, as it relates to the Bible.  I'd probably consider it my church teachings first, ego second, Bible third, and fear of damnation fourth.\n\nNow, however, I still consider myself a Christian, but I would call human decency first, and the Bible second (interpretted very differently than before).  They practically go hand in hand.  I now interpret the Bible based on the world I see around me.  How do the teachings of the Bible fit with the observations I see in my day-to-day life?\n\nGod bless!
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Scott, I do agree with you.  However, I do find things like this to be very interesting, and it is amazing to find how some things do relate to each other symbolically.  I'm not entirely sure of the accuracy of these, but I think that they are correct.  \n\n1=God, begining, source, unity, first.\n2=number of witness (in the mouth of two or more witnesses), friendship\n3=Godhead, trinity, divine completness, perfect testimony\n4=number of earth, creation, world, four gospels, four winds, four seasons, four corners of the earth.  \n5=grace, atonement(this is probably the meaning you were referencing), life, the cross, five-fold ministeries. \n6=number of man, beast, satan, idol.\n7=perfectio, completness, number of book of Revelation, finished, day of rest, (used 600 times in the Bible)\n8=resurrection, new beginings, put on new man.\n9=harvest, ministry, fullness, friutfullness, number of gifts of the Holy Spirit(maybe that are mentioned???), number of birthing(baby born in 9 months).\n10=number of law, order, government, restoration, antichrist kingdom, trial, testing, responsibiblity, tithe\n11=incompletness, disorganization, disintegration, disorder, lawlessness, need for apostolic fullness (11 apostles after Judas hanged himself).\n12=divine government, apostolic fullness.\n13=rebellion/backsliding, apostacy\n14=passover\n15=spiritual order\n16=free spirit, without bounderies, without limitation, without law therefore without sin ROMANS 4:15, salvation.\n17=spiritual void\n18=put on jugdment, destruction, captivity, overcome put on spririt of Christ (Judges 10:7-8, Luke 13:4, 3:11, 16)\n19=barren, repentant, ashamed, selflessness, without self rightousness (2 Samuel 2:30, Romans 6:21).\n20= can either mean holy, tried and approved or unholy and found wanting.\n24=priestly courses, govermental perfection\n30=consecration, maturity for ministry(I would guess this is because Jesus began His ministry at age 30)\n40=probation, testing, ending in victory or defeat.\n50=number of pentecost, liberty, freedom, jubilee.\n70=prior to increase of representive of a multitude.\n75=number of separation, cleansing, purification.\n100=fullness, full measure, full recompense, full reward, ect. (Genesis 26:12, Mark :10:30)\n120=end of all flesh, beginning of life in the Spirit.\n124=number of God's ultimate in creation and redemption.\n163=number of God's electm revival, ingathering, harvest.\n300=number of faithful remnant.\n666=antichrist, satan, beast.\n1000=maturity, full stature (Isaiah 17:33,5, Ephesians 4:13)\n\nThese are the numbers that I know of, I'm not sure of the valitidy of all of them, but I hope this helps!  These are fun to look at tho, even tho they aren't the whole purpose of the Bible, keep that in mind.  But is IS interesting to see how things weave together, and it is another proof that the Bible was inspired by God, not randomly written by a bunch of different men.  \n\n2 Timothy 3:16\n\n  All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training is righteousness.\n\n\nGod bless!!
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According to the Bible we should beequally yoked. You shouldn't have any expectations of changing the other person's beliefs and vice versa. It becomes difficult down the road when all you have left is what you believe in and they don't believe the same it can lead to division very easily.
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religion or family believes.
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A little more for you.\n\nDISSECTING CHRISTIANITY'S\nMIND-SNARING SYSTEM\nhttp://www.deism.com/thinksam2.htm\n\nhttp://jamescook.tripod.com/falsewit.html
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Dear Sen831,\n\nYou request personal experience or evidence... \n\nI used to be an atheist. Over a period of time however, I grew convinced of the existence of the Christian God, and ultimately committed my life to Christ. \n\nFor a draft-version of my journey from atheism to Christ, see http://www.godsci.org/gs/chri/testimony/seek.html\n\nCan we believe the Bible? See http://www.godsci.org/gs/chri/bible.htm\n\nFor scientific and intellectual evidence for the existence of God, see http://www.godsci.org/gs/godsci/evidence.htm\n\nFor evidence for the historicity and truth of Jesus Christ, see http://www.godsci.org/gs/chri/jesus.htm\n\nCordially,\nJohn
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Anybody who is honest will admit that throughout their lifetime their beliefs change.  Only a child can honestly say, "my beliefs haven't change."  Only a child could think that they never will.\n\nLife teaches lessons.  If a person goes through their life and never learns anything new they become spiritually retarded.  They also become more vulnerable to deception.\n\nI cannot list all the things I have learned I was once wrong about.  There isn't enough bandwidth.\n\nI'm looking forward to finding out what I'm currently wrong about.  I embrace the learning process.  Doctrines and beliefs are human inventions and are flawed.
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Decide what differences exist in your beliefs exactly then stick to the truth of Gods' word. Always in love and kindness, with meekness and humbleness. Fall on your face about this before you enter into it. Seek help from our father and our Lord. Be sincere and you will succeed as long as you do not offend. It may take time. Always remember The Lord is your Shepard. So let him lead. listen to your subject and see what they need by letting them reveal it to you. Edify their spirit but nullify their mis-information with the word. May God be with you and peace be to you and yours.
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yes your mind is going in circle-your question is stated clearly on last sentence-first 8 sentences is a wonderful example of circle logic that just doesnt make sense-it assumes there is a god-i often use similer arguement when i am asked why i dont cut my hair-i then ask them if they believe in god-upon positive response i then ask them why they arent satisfied with what god gave-lots of love keep the peace old hippie
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I am not a Christian, nor a pre-Christian.  What I would like to say however is that there is no "one sentence" that you can write to convert thinking people to Christianity.  You have to give proper evidence of your claims, and that would most likely take a lot more than one sentence.
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You are interested in opinions, and you will get as many as there are people; all different, proving nothing, determining nothing, getting closer to nothing. \n\nYou answered one of my questions "Is there truth outside of God's truth?" Since you didn't leave your email open, I could not respond to you, except to answer you here. Why are you so concerned about the religion of others? I don't see the point of your question.\n\nI probably wouldn't have bothered hunting you down, until you left that last one-liner: "Search for your own truth, not one provided to you by others." Cheap shot, without reason or knowledge. You are very young and presumptuous and quick to apply labels from your limited learning and experience. You have no idea how many decades I have researched truth, have only started keeping a list of references in the last nine years, and already have over 700 books on that list, so unless you have read a thousand books, we may not even be able to have a decent discussion, especially when you think truth is something broad, general, changing, and temporal, like an opinion, or some rationalized belief, or based on perception. Base your premise on something solid before you pontificate.\n\nIf you are still interested in truth, read my Essay on my web site at :  www.members.cox.net/b2fnow\n\nthe Essay defines truth; you will find it in the Articles\nthen read the article "Finding Truth"\n\nthese will clear up a lot of your confusion\n\nOh yes, it doesn't matter which religion or no religion; ultimately it is about truth. Christianity is about a relationship with God, and is non-denominational.