Is good for me to take weight gainer and creatine at the same time.?
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PLEASE TAKE YOUR HEALTH VERY SERIOUSLY AND SEEK PROFESSIONAL ADVICE RATHER THAN THIS FORUM.  SEEK YOUR PHARMICIST OR PHYICIAN REGARDING THIS.  PLEASE YOU ONLY HAVE ONE LIFE AND IT IS PRECIOUS.
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chances are you are simply wasting money \n\nyour creatine needs to be pure and mixed in an acidic solution and is effective if you use it around workouts \n\nonly about 60% of people respond to creatine so unless you are one of them you are wasting dollars\n\nnitrotech probalby does nothing more than a far cheaper whey supplement
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I tried it and noticed that when weight training I was able to do more reps in my 2nd and 3rd sets than normal, as a result I made quicker strength gains.  It won't give results just by taking it alone but is a beneficial supplement, I would particularly recommend it if you were undertaking an intense weight training schedule.
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Yes,  it can.  Thats why you rarely see it packaged in a liquid enviroment. Liquid creatine is garbage. Creatine Ethyl Ester is more stable with less conversion. See bodybuilding.com a lot of clients tried this and do not get dumping syndrome or bloat. ( dumping syndrome is when creatine turns into creatinine in your gut in 10 - 30 minutes and you get diarrhea. Your body sees it as a poison and pools water into the intestines.) My clients like the results.Plus more creatine gets into the muscle. I hope you get great pumps and endurance.
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I haven't tried either of these, but I generally stay away from anything with Creatine.  It makes my heart hurt!
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At fifteen years of age, creatin will not help you, and using ANY "steroids" is not smart as your body is still developing NATUARALLY. Using anything similar to a steroid can actually hinder the "natural growth" of your body...\n\nBut here's the info you were looking for:\n\nCreatine is a nitrogenous organic acid that naturally occurs in vertebrates and helps to supply energy to muscle cells.\n\nIt is public knowledge that meat (which has a lot of creatine) enhanced performance long before modern science discovered creatine. The big winner in the 480 B.C. Olympic Games said he ate nothing but meat for 10 months prior to the Games to get ready.\n\nIn 1832, the French scientist Michel Eugène Chevreul discovered a component of skeletal muscle that he later named creatine after the Greek word for flesh, Kreas.\n\nIn 1912, researchers found that ingesting creatine can dramatically boost the creatine content of the muscle. In the late 1920s, scientists found that the intramuscular stores of creatine can be increased by ingesting creatine in larger than normal amounts, discovered creatine phosphate, and determined that creatine is a key player in the metabolism of skeletal muscle.\n\nThe Russians and other Eastern Bloc countries may have used creatine as a sports supplement as far back as the 1970s, although this is a matter of debate.\n\nWhile creatine's influence on physical performance has been well documented since the early twentieth century, it only recently came into public view following the 1992 Olympics in Barcelona. An August 7, 1992 article in The Times reported that Linford Christie, the gold medal winner at 100 meters, had utilized creatine prior to the Olympics, and an article in Bodybuilding Monthly named Sally Gunnell, gold medalist in the 400-meter hurdles, as another creatine user. Several medal-winning British rowers also used creatine during their preparations for the Barcelona games.\n\nAt the time, low-potency creatine supplements were available in Britain, but creatine supplements designed for strength enhancement were not commercially available until 1993 when a company called EAS (Exercise, Atheletics, Strength) introduced the compound to the sports nutrition market under the name Phosphagen. In 1998, the launch of the first creatine-carbohydrate-alpha lipoic acid supplement, Cell-Tech, by another company called MuscleTech Research and Development, took place. Alpha lipoic acid enhances muscle phosphocreatine levels and total muscle creatine concentrations. This approach to creatine supplementation was validated in a study performed in 2003 by Burke et al., of the Department of Human Kinetics at St. Francis Xavier University. Another important event in creatine supplementation occurred in 2004 when the first creatine ethyl ester supplements were launched. To date, the most extensively researched brand-name creatine supplement is Cell-Tech, with three published studies on the actual product (Parise, G., et al. 2000,. Kalman, D., et al., and 2000 Tarnopolsky et al, 2001). Both Phosphagen and Cell-Tech still remain widely used by athletes around the world.\n\nCreatine Ethyl Ester (CEE) is becoming a widely used form of creatine, with many companies now carrying both creatine monohydrate-based supplements and Creatine Ethyl Ester supplements, or combinations of both. CEE is touted to have absorbtion rates tens of times higher than regular creatine monohydrate by several supplement companies. Creatine monohydrate ($400 million in annual sales in the United States alone) remains the most used form of creatine.\n\nSynthesis\nIn the human body creatine is synthesized mainly in the liver by the use of parts from three different amino acids - arginine, glycine, and methionine. 95% of it is later stored in the skeletal muscles, with the rest in the brain, heart, and testes.\n\nThe enzyme GATM (Guanidinoacetate N-methyltransferase, also known as L-arginine:glycine amidinotransferase (AGAT),
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"cretain"? I would just stick with a good multivitamin if I were you. Eat healthy and you shouldn't have to worry too much about "supplements". ~smiles
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It helps the muscles retain water, which puts them in a greater muscle building state. Higher endurance and strength can also follow this.Creatine is not a steroid, hormone, vitamin, or a mineral. Creatine is a combination of three non-essential amino-acids, which are arginine, glycine, and methionine. The chemical name for creatine is methyl guanidine-acetic acid\n\nAn understanding of ATP is crucial to a full understanding of how creatine works. ATP is known as the energy compound in the body. When your muscles use ATP for energy, it breaks the ATP down into ADP and inorganic phosphate. Your muscles have only enough ATP to last about 10-15 seconds at maximum exertion. This is where creatine comes into play. Creatine helps muscles replenish ATP, causing you to train longer, more frequently, and at a higher intensity. Creatine has another effect on the body's muscles. Creatine helps draw water into the muscles, keeping them super-saturated with water, or volumizing the muscle. When muscles are super-hydrated like they are when one uses creatine, the muscles not only stay in an anti-catabolic (muscle building) state, but they help someone train longer and harder, leading to an increase in lean muscle mass\n\ni hope this helps, i wouldnt recommend anyone taking it because it's effect are temporary and will go away quite quickly if you dont maintain regular dosage daily
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Yes and no.\n\nProtein powders are exactly what they say on the tin - protein.  If your diet, for whatever reason, is lacking in protein then they have their place for you.  Just the same as an anaemic may take iron supplements.\n\nHowever, the body can only synthesize so much protein at a time, so if your dietary supply of protein is sufficient for your needs, the surplus is (to be blunt) pissed back out.  I can think of more enjoyable ways to piss your money away.\n\nA cheap way to make an equally effective source of protein in the form of a shake is to add powdered milk to your drink - about 2-3 tablespoons per pint.  A tin of marvel costs about a quid.  It's pretty much the same thing.\n\nCreatine is a different matter and the jury is still out on it.  Most of the studies done on creatine have been funded by...guess who?  Yep, the people who make and market it.  \n\nCreatine phosphate is a molecule involved in energy release in the body.  It is used to make more adenosine triphosphate when it is being burned at a high rate.  The idea is that by taking artificial ammounts, you will have extra energy and your muscle's supply will become less depleted meaning they grow more quickly after exercise.\n\nOf the relatively independent studies, the muscle growth has been shown to be pretty much a load of rubbish.  Your body simply stops producing as much of its own creatine phosphate when you have the artificially introduced stuff.\n\nThere is one genuine, relatively long term and independent study which has shown that olympic standard squash players showed a 1% performance enhanced effect due to creatine.  If you're training your cardio system as hard as an olympic standard squash player, then yes, it appears worth it.\n\nThe long term effects of creatine supplementation cannot yet be known, as it has only been on the market for around fifteen years.  Already there are suggestions that it can cause digestive and kidney problems - which doesn't bode well.  Later research suggests that this is more due to the powders that the creatine is carried in, so the liquid forms should be safer.\n\nWhat about all the testimonials from sports personalities?\na) Would you admit to taking steroids?\nb) Here's a hundred grand to say you use our milkshake...deal?\nc) Sports persons have a very high calorie requirement - shakes or another plate of pasta in between your running?\n\nThere is also the placebo effect to take into account.  Various studies have shown that placebo groups make improvements because the people think they're getting a special pill to make them bigger, stronger, faster, whatever.  So they're more motivated, so they train harder, which (guess what?) leads to improved outcome.\n\nSo even if they do nothing for you, if you believe they do, they actually will...oddly enough.
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Stay away from Creatine!  The best thing you could use is amino fuel and lots of protein.  Creatine will eat away at your stomach and give you a gastric intestinal disorder.  Creatine does not give you muscle it just pumps up the fluids.  Unless Creatine has changed in the last few years; I am telling you this from witnessing it first hand.  My husband was in the hospital three times from abdominal pain and runny stools.  Just eat healthy and use more weights with less reps.
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I prefer creatine and whey protein i always see great gains with it
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First of all, creatine is for adults who have been lifting for a while.  After lifting for many years, a person reaches a limit of strength.  He uses the creatine to see new muscle.  But your still growing and a beginner such as yourself can build new muscle just the same  as if you were on creatine. Basically it's a waste for you.  Plus your still growing lifting heavy weights will stunt your growth.  Go ask your baseball coach or any doctor.  They will tell you the same thing.
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Creatine and amino acids serve different purposes.  I don't take amino acid supplementation, so I haven't done much research on it, but I am taking creatine and have done a lot of reading on it.\n\nCreatine is a natural substance that you obtain from your diet and can make yourself.  Creatine's primary purpose in weightlifting is to replenish ATP stores during intense activity.  By taking creatine supplementation you can increase your creatine stores by up to 40% (depending on how much you are already getting in your diet).  This will allow you to work out harder longer and get better results from your training.\n\nCreatine is also known to cause cell volumization, as it causes the muscles to hold more water.  Note that this is different the water retention, as water retention is when water is retained on the outside of the cells, causing the muscles to lose definition and look smoother.  Cell volumization pulls the water into the cells and causes the muscles to look harder.\n\nThere are also studies that have come to light recently that show that cell volumization can make protein synthesis more productive.  In theory this could mean that creatine could directly help you build muscle, but more research needs to be done to prove this effect.\n\nCreatine is also a very safe substance to supplement.  While there are rumors of some side effects, such as muscle cramping, kidney problems, etc, no studies have actually proved these to be actual risks.  One possible risk is the down regulation of the creatine transporters due to oversupplementation, but if you follow the recommended guidelines you shouldn't have to worry about that effect.  To be safe you should actually take less creatine than most manufacturers recommend, though.  Studies have shown that your body can absorb a lot less than most companies suggest you take anyway.  They have found that your body is unable to absorb more than 3-5 grams of creatine per day after you have finished loading.  To top that off, after working out you are capable of absorbing up to 10% more than your normal maximum capacitiy.  They estamate that you only use 3% of your creatine stores when you don't work out.  That means that if you are fully loaded and then take creatine after working out you will have more creatine than you body can obsorb for the next 3-4 days or until you work out again.  Bottom line: after loading it is only necessary to take creatine after working out.  I only take about 5 grams after I work out to replenish the creatine I have used.\n\nAs far as amino acids go, do some research and see what the benefits are to you.  I've already found an article that proved to me that glutamine is a waste of money, but I haven't researced any of the other availlable products.
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do not take any growth hormones they really mess u up!!!! the only thing u should be taking is whey protein, casein protein at night, multivitamine (animalpac), flaxseed oil, and creatine ( drink more water though, it dehydrates u)....all of these things cobined with a good ass heavy lifting weight program and ur 5 to 6 meals a day and u will build quality muscles that will last u forever!!!!email me i u need anything else!!!
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If you are trying to gain muscles mass, the answer is both, but more so, one in the morning, one after your workout and one 30 min before bed. If your workout is in the evening, take one mid afternoon.\n\nWithout doing much, you could start by reading Mens Health and Muscle & Fitness Magazines. Both are published by Joe Weider Inc. Both have great workout routines in them and advice on diet, fitness, health, supplementation.\n\nI would reccomend that you start by hitting the weight room, 4-5 times per week. Lifting with Compund exercies first, then isolation exercises. 4-5 sets of each, with 1-2 of them being warm up exercises. 9-12 rep range is good for muscle mass, and definition and stamina. Rest each body part 4-7 days. So if you do Chest on monday, dont do it till at least friday.\n\nWhen it comes to supplementation you will use the minimum:\n1 multi vitamin pill per day\ntribulus\nWhey protein or whey protein isolate. Depending on allergies, you may want to use a Soy protein. you should use 2-3 grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight in your daily diet to gain muscle (you still need to lift weights though and stick with it. It takes a long long time. It took me 2 years to put on 35 pounds of muscle.) Take some in the morning when you wake up, mid day, and as part of your post workout drink.\nI would also reccomend taking L-Glutamine as part of your post workout routine.\nTake something with creatine. This stuff is well documented. I would reccomend BSN Nutrition NOxplode. IT has creatine, arginine, and others as well as nitric oxide. Take this for your pre workout routine, about 30-45 minutes before your workout. It takes awhile for your body to absorb the creatine.\n\nThat should be the core of your supplement routine. Do not rely on the protein powder to get you all of your protein in a day.\n\nRemember to do cardio at least 3 times a week 60-75% of your max heart rate (MHR) which is 220-your age. for about 30 min each session. If i do legs, I do cardio after. Sometimes I will split it, 15-20 min before, 15-20 min after. You have to burn the fat to show your hard work!!\n\nDo abs at least 3 times a week. focus more on form and crunching the muscle, than how many reps you do.\n\nTHis should help.\n\nIf you need more advice, feel free to email me at crazycanuck7901@yahoo.com I would be glad to help you out.\n\nBA in Health and Fitness, Certified Personal Trainer, Wellness Specialist with the YMCA.
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when you do any exercise your muscles breath aerobically. after a while, if you can't get enough oxygen your body breathes anaerobically. you produce lactic acid leaning to cramps.\nboth of these methods are not 100% efficient and both produce ATP (energy). creatine "resynthesises" the ATP to produce more energy. therefore you can go on for longer, lift more weights etc.\ncreatine is found in all meats, please ignore a lot of the people who just blindly rant  about how rubbish and dangerous it is, if it were it would be illegal, like steriods.\nthe best advise that i can give you is this, go to a gym for about 3 weeks, so you have a good idea of where you are physically and how much you can lift. then take creatine and see if you notice a difference. if you don't like it; stop. if you're not 100% sure about wanting to take it, then don't\ni have been using creatine for years, and will swear by the results, so will most top sportsmen (not that i'm one). that doesn't mean i'm trying to force you to take it. it will help you build more muscle because you will be stronger. but try it and see for yourself, its not addictive so you can stop whenever you want.\n\nas a note if you decide to use it you should use it for 6 weeks at a time then stop for 4 weeks. repeat. the first week should be a loading phase (you take twice the dose to flood your body)\n\nthis link might help you:\n\nhttp://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/likness2.htm
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When taking supplements, you should always follow the manufacturer's directions.  The only time this isn't true is if you are under instructions from a physician to use the product differently.  \n\nHowever, it might help you to know all creatine monohydrate does is cause your body to store extra water in your muscles, it doesn't actually increase muscle mass (so you're paying for an illusory effect when you take it).