Doesn't the philosophy of the Illegals "Aztlan" concern you?
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-- Antonio Villaraigosa \nMayor- Los Angeles, California-"ELECTED" by the VOTES of ILLEGAL ALIENS - \n Villaraigosa has spent a lifetime opposing U.S. immigration laws - \n Villaraigosa Proclaimed, and I Quote \n"This bill in Congress is wrong. The only thing illegal is making 11 million illegal aliens felons." \nYeah!!! He Actually said that. \nPeople should make No Mistake about it -Villaraigosa's Allegiance is to Mexico, NOT California or These United States of America.                                  http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/Villy-Treasonous-Mayor.htmlhttp://www.discoverthenetwork.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1281\n\nSenor Villaraigosa is A Member Of  "MEChA"  and  " LA RAZA"\n\n -- Mario Obledo \nMexican American Legal Defense Fund Founder - \nFormer California Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Gov. Jerry Brown - \nAwarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton - \nIs Quoted \n “California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like it should leave. Every constitutional office in California is going to be held by Hispanics in the next 20 years.  People who don't like such demographic changes “should go back to Europe.” http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1173\n\nSenor Obledo Is A Member Of "MEChA" And "LA RAZA" \n\nA leading Aztlan group is the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan, known by its Spanish acronym MEChA. \n\nLike many other Hispanic groups,MEChA came out of the "Brown Power" movement of the late '60s. Its founding motto was, \n"For those in the race, everything. For those outside the race, nothing." \n\nCloser to the mainstream is the Aztlan movement, \nwhich claims Aztec and Spanish ancestry and wants only the western half of the U.S. for      "LA RAZA  de Bronze." \n\nMEChA and the LA RAZA movement teach that Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington State make up an area known as "AZTLAN" -- A fictional ancestral homeland of the Aztecs before Europeans arrived in North America. \nAs such, it belongs to the followers of MEChA. These are all areas America should surrender to "La Raza" once enough immigrants, legal or illegal, enter to claim a majority, as in Los Angeles. The current borders of the United States will  be extinguished.\n\nThe Council of LA RAZA succeeded in having itself added to congressional hearings by Republican House and Senate leaders. And an anonymous senator even gave the Council of La Raza an extra $4 million in earmarked taxpayer money, (supposedly for "housing reform,") while La Raza continues to lobby the Senate for virtual open borders and AMNESTY for ILLEGAL ALIENS \nhttp://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=13863\n\n-- Angel Gutierrez, \nProfessor, University of Texas, Arlington- \nFounder of the La Raza Unida political party - \n"We have an aging white America.  They are not making babies.  They are dying.  The explosion is in our population . . .They are shitting in their pants with fear...I love it. We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is, if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."  \n\n-- Art Torres \nCalifornia Democratic Party chairman - \nAt the Latino Summit in Response to Prop 187 at U.C. Riverside (Jan. 14, 1995): \n"Power is not given to you, you have to take it! People say to me when I was on the Senate floor, when I was in the Senate, ' Why do you fight so hard for affirmative action programs? ' And I tell my white colleagues: because you're gonna need them. Remember, 187 is the last gasp of white America"\n\n-- Jose Baca \nCalifornia State Senator - \nIs Quoted 'THE LATINO's ARE COMING, THE LATINO's ARE COMING", Mocking The  American Revolutionary Paul Revere- \n\nYou Can Hear These Words For Yours
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I THINK THEY CALL THEM "ILLEGALS" BECAUSE THEY COME HERE "ILLEGALLY" (*CRACKERS* DO THAT...)lol for real...anyways they always talk bad about them and yea you are right they talk as if they commited a big crime like bomb the twin towers like you said but all they did was suffer to cross the border and provide a better life for their families in america..... is that really a crime? sure i think if an illegal or ANYONE who commits something that is against the law like killing someone should go to jail...but they shouldn't be deported for trying to suceed in life.....:-)
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My mind is made up, there is no legitimate argument for the mexican invasion that has taken place in America. \nBeyotifool, lost, and braindead;  If mexico has problems, its a mexican problem,Not an American problem stop being stupid. What we would lose if there were no mexican criminals in this country is about 12 to 20+ MILLION  criminals! and Americans would have more jobs. There is no job an American wont do if payed a livable wage!  If all the mexicans are humans, what kind of morals have they been taught, They think its alright to overrun a nation and demand rights and priveleges for being criminals.do your neighbors behave in this manner and do you approve of people with low or no morals? Must be a tough neighborhood. And once again if they are having problems in mexico, tough! It is not an American problem! it is a mexican problem! try to keep up please.\nAmerica has a problem, can you guess what it might be?  Arrogant criminals who demand that America reward them for their criminal behavior. ie Illegal mexicans waving a foreign nations flag and marching through American streets demanding that America grant them equal status, without any allegiance to America!   To hell with the stupidity of the mexicans arguments!
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I think people see them as a supremicist group. And supremicist groups are no good. "Por La Raza todo, Fuera de La Raza nada" Everything for the Mexican Race, Nothing for outside the Mexican Race. It is saying that they believe that if you are not Mexican than you are not deserving. I disagree with that. I am white and my husband Mexican (from Mexico) and there is never a way that I could agree with that, and neither would he. Cant we all just get along?
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Ron, most of these people don't care to educate themselves on such things.  They don't really care if a person is legal or illegal.  They care about the color of his skin & the language he speaks. They scream that the Spanish speakers need to learn English. Then if he does LEARN English then they like to make fun of his accent.  They assume that every Hispanic here is Mexican and illegal just by looking at him.  They assume that all illegals are on welfare and medicaid.  They assume all illegals have fake id's and fake SSN's. I've been trying to educate them differently but they don't care to listen.  Most don't even have a clue that many of these "Mexicans" are from Nicaragua, Guatemaula, El Salvador, Uraguay, Paraguay and many Latin American countries.  They don't care.  They don't care if they are perm. residents or citizens.  If they look "illegal" they want them rounded up and deported.  That's really all they want and all they care about.
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I think you are the gal having a legal mexican bf... Some of us do not forget the word illegal actually I say it and often and I do not agree on how some actions are being taken to solve this issue ,as well as on the american side as on the Mexican/ sud american side. To secure your borders is ok but the way some americans attack them and refer to them is unacceptable even those patrolling and shooting , or those who throw things to ppl while marching no matter what ppl are free to express themselves specially in USA , am I not right? You can not talk about 3er world mentallity and are just showing a bit of missinformation for you to know Mexico belongs to the 2nd world countries.Unfortunatly most of the ppl who cross are ppl who couldn´t really study much and americans do wrong by stereotyping every person cuz of a small group.Not all the ppl in USA have a first world mentallity I can tell I Live on a first world country. Anyway it is not a matter of pin pointing anyone it is a matter of making ppl understand on both sides that the best is to reach an agreement in which both sides will get benefits.
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who cares as long as your feeding your face. i don't pay much mind to it when i'm out with my kids. i don't let them know my disagreement concerning the illegals. i let them make their own minds up about other people.
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your absolutely right...their cultural backwardness and violence says it all....do we really want them assimilated into our society..???\n\n\nliberal socialists want us to "look at individuals" who sneak across the border and break our law to do that for a better life....thats crap...it is a culture that is trying to invade and keep their own way of life with no nod at all to americas values and laws...\n\nhow many times have you heard of the mexican who shot, stabbed, or beat another person for messing with his "property"..usually a woman...and the prevailing thought is "thats just how those latinos are..hotheaded"...\n\nthey have no desire to assimilate or fit in...they just want our dollars, any way they can get them...legal or otherwise...
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Oh my when I or anyone I know start looking at people who look different than us and trying to decide if they are illegal or not.....well that is the day we should just shut ourselves up in the house with our cats and Dr. Phil.\n\nI am so glad that I and those I love are so completley oblivious to "that" part of this immigration crap.  We don't judge people and think they are OBVIOUSLY ILLEGAL because they play "carnival music"....we play boy bands a little too often ourselves, or park cars in the driveway (we have quite a few that my husband calls "fixer uppers"), or comment on how many live in a home.......we don't have alot...but would hate for someone to comment if all 6 of my husbands brothers and their families came to visit.\n\nIt is all general.....some just distort the details to fit the circumstance.\n\n\nPeace.
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No-I have respect for the black race-and they didn't sneak in like a the Illegals did. And most agree that Illegals don't belong here at all.
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Reactionary laws?  That's friggen hysterical.  It's already against the law to enter this country without going through the proper channels, hence the term (as un-PC as it is) ILLEGAL ALIEN.  \n\nNow, as far as counter protests and marches, we have several things going against us.  \n1. We don't have a close knit network to get the word out.  There's a website here and there but there's no coordination between sites.  \n2.  Concerns about being viewed as racist.  So what if the issue isn't about race?  So what if it's about people, regardless of color, who are INVADING our country?  The media and the Hispanic/Latino leadership in this country will try to smear ANYONE who organizes a widescale protest.  \n3.  Fear of being retaliated against.  \n4.  Lastly, I believe a lot of Americans feel overwhelmed by the enormity of the problem and frustrated that the American government isn't enforcing its own laws.\n\nI say we treat illegal aliens the way they treat them in their own countries.  For example, here are a few of Mexico's laws.\n\n"Only Mexicans by birth or naturalization and Mexican companies have the right to acquire ownership of lands, waters, and their appurtenances, or to obtain concessions for the exploitation of mines or of waters. The State may grant the same right to foreigners, provided they agree before the Ministry of Foreign Relations to consider themselves as nationals in respect to such property, and bind themselves not to invoke the protection of their governments in matters relating thereunto; under penalty, in case of noncompliance with this agreement, of forfeiture of the property acquired to the Nation. Under no circumstances may foreigners acquire direct ownership of lands or waters within a zone of one hundred kilometers along the frontiers and of fifty kilometers along the shores of the country." \n\nArticle 32: "Mexicans shall have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable. In time of peace no foreigner can serve in the Army nor in the police or public security forces."\n\n Foreign-born, naturalized Mexican citizens may not become federal lawmakers (Article 55), cabinet secretaries (Article 91) or supreme court justices (Article 95). \n\nAccording to Article 33, "the Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action."\n\nNon-citizens are forbidden to participate in demonstrations or express opinions in public about domestic politics.  Article 9 states, "only citizens of the Republic may do so to take part in the political affairs of the country."  Article 33 is unambiguous: "Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country."\n\n*In response to the answer below:\n\nIt's not a complex issue.\nThey ARE criminals.  They broke the laws of this nation by entering without going through the proper channels.  Many of them use stolen or forged identies and social security cards, which means they are breaking MORE laws.\nBusinesses do not need their labor.  Businesses need to stop undermining the foundation of this county and discontinue their law breaking activities.  Who the hell do you think did the work before the last 12 million illegals came here?  Do you think Americans would sit and starve if illegals didn't pick fruits and vegetables?  I guarantee you they would NOT starve.\nJefferson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt are spinning in their graves over the invasion of this country and the government's lack of action to stop the influx.\n\nTheodore Roosevelt Advocates Americanism, 1915\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Who is telling you about this sign of hate? Perhaps they are not all that concerned with your welfare....
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poor girl!! People say that this is a illegal immigration issue not a racist issue, but people make it a racist issue when they make comments like "All Mexicans are stealing lazy a$$es" how can you debate with those kind of comments and say it's just a illegal immigration issue?I call BULL SH*T. and agree with you!!
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racist want white supremacy, the people you and I encounter with want illegals out because they think they are avoiding the law, which might be true, but still they don't know of any hardships these people go through when risking their lives to cross the border. I am not making excuses for them but realistically how are they going to point out all illegals? Hard workers who are illegals come here to do what their little prissy hands won't, and they say illegals are taking their jobs. i highly doubt they and their ancesstors sprung from US soil, literally.
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viper_najem-I AGREE The Asker IS An EGOTISTIC Loser\n\nbanana_bean01 Asked 2 Of The BEST Questions Ive EVER Seen Posted In ANY Of These Forums\n\nteresa-I WISH More People Would Understand The Underlying Economics As You See Them Because The Issue IS NATIONAL ECONOMICS NOT RACE\n\nJust Cause Life In MEX. And Some Other Countries "SUCKS"\nDont Give Someone A RIGHT To Be In This Nation\n\nAnd I Know That Pres.Fox Is CORRUPT But THAT\nDont Give Someone A RIGHT To Be In This Nation\n\nAnd Just Cause You Dont Have A Criminal Record\nDont Give Someone A RIGHT To Be In This Nation\n\nThis Is A NATION With LAWS-THAT IS The REALITY\nThis NATION Of LAWS Has BORDERS\nIt Dont MATTER HOW It Got To Be That Way\nTHAT Is The Way It Is\nThe INDIANs, The BUFFALOs, The WARs, The ESKIMOEs,\nIT DONT MATTER-Thats The WAY It IS\n\nYou Have The RIGHT To Be Here If \n1:You Were BORN Here\n2:You Take The Basic Nessesary Steps To Apply For A VISA And Then CITIZENSHIP And Are APPROVED\nTHAT Is The LAW In THIS NATION\nIF EITHER 1 or 2 Of The ABOVE Are In Fact TRUE\nThen You Are A CITIZEN Of This Nation\nAnd You Have A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT To Be Here\n\nTHATS IT-THATS ALL-There Are NO More Arguements About The RIGHT To Be Here In This NATION Of LAWS\n\nILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS Have No Constitutional Rights\n\nYou CANNOT "STEAL" The RIGHT To Be Here As You CANNOT STEAL ANY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS\nIf You DO, You Are A FELON\nYouve BROKEN FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS\nIf You VIOLATE The FEDERAL LAWS Of A NATION, You Are A CRIMINAL\n\nIts THAT SIMPLE \nIf You Break Into A House To Steal Property, That Is An ILLEGAL ACTION, With A PENALTY If You Are Caught \nIf You SNEAK Across The BORDER Of A NATION To STEAL The RIGHT To Be There, That Is An ILLEGAL ACTION, With A PENALTY If You Are Caught\n\nILLEGAL ALIENS in America are here only because they are GUILTY of CRIMINAL VIOLATION of our FEDERAL LAWS, Jumping our borders and living in a shadowy underground economy. They are morally culpable for shoving aside those who adhere to the law and enter these United States in orderly and Legal Fashion. Since when do criminals and cheaters receive pride of place for the blessings of liberty, over those honestly, earnestly and faithfully seeking to become American citizens? \n\nPresident Bush has called for a reasonable and civil debate over the issues of border security and immigration reform. But the American people understand there can be no responsible immigration reform UNTIL OUR BORDERS ARE SECURE. “Guest worker” amnesty programs ARE NOT a part of border security. Amnesty is not the answer. To grant amnesty to these trespassers is to say "You crossed our borders ILLEGALLY, You BROKE OUR LAWS and now we are REWARDING you with U.S. Citizenship -- Congratulations!" \n\nThis is unacceptable. \n\n\nWe cannot allow illegals to remain in this country because it sends the very clear message to anyone from any country: \nGo ahead and enter the U.S. illegally. Nothing will be done to you. \nThe stupid Americans will pay to feed you, clothe you, educate your kids and pay for your medical care\nwhile they themselves are forced to go without because they can't afford health insurance because their tax dollars are paying for you! \nHa, Ha! Go ahead and enter the U.S. illegally If you're a terrorist, no problem, go ahead and build your cells, blow up buildings and schools.\nNothing will happen because American politicians are too cowardly to repel this invasion and deport the millions of \nillegals aready here while the illegals rub their lawlessness in our faces.\n\nAFRAID???-AFRAID???-NO< Im NOT AFRAD-IM PI$$ED\n\nIM MAD AS HELL-And IM NOT GONNA TAKE THIS $HIT \n\nYou Wish To Become AMERICANS With The RIGHTS Of AMERICANS .. \nYet Many Of You REFUSE To SPEAK My/Our LANGUAGE \nAnd REFUSE To Honor My/Our Flag \nWell I REFUSE To Let YOU Continue To Burden My Pocket \nAnd The Pockets Of My "PROUD TO BE AMERICAN" BROTHERS \nOf ANY DESCENT\n\nY
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In general no.  BUT, when there are Mexicans who came here illegally waving Mexican flags and then talking about their "rights" and how they deserve a get out of jail free card (amnesty) because they work for a living does offend me.  It would be the same with the Irish, the Canadians or any other nationality.  Also, I do get offend when people wave the Nazi flag for obvious reasons.
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well it seems that there has been a bad assumption. Just because some one has a Hispanic last name does not make them automatic an illegal.