is fluid joint better than glucosomine chondroitin? as far as knee problems?
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as far as i know glucosamine chondroitin is better as it act as renewer for the synovial fluid which it`s main part is formed from glucosamine that`s what i really know but you must seek a professional advice
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First off I would say weight control is first and foremost, next I would think that calcium plus vit d would help over long period of time. Knee exercises strengthen ligaments and muscles around the joint to keep it in place better and keep it stronger. and of course drink lots of water, take vitamins.....exercise regularly.
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I have very bad knees, I've already had surgery on one of them for degenerating cartilage. I'm only 20. Before the surgery, I tried physical therapy. In there I found some good stretches, but the most important thing was the discovery that I can use the stationary bike with minimal or no pain. If you decide to do this, keep it at a lower resistance. If it hurts, reduce the resistance. I usually bike on level 2 or so, although bikes differ.
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Over the counter nutritional supplements (Glucosamine & Chondroitin sulfate) are vitamin pills for the knee cartilage, and have proven to be effective for some patients. These supplements are important because there are no nutrients for articular cartilage present in our every day diet.\n\nThese two compounds have gained widespread use for the treatment of arthritic conditions. Though initially skeptical of "homeopathic" natural remedies, some people reported excellent symptomatic relief, comparable to any non-steroidal (NSAID) drug. Additionally solid basic science studies and prospective blinded human studies have shown that glucosamine is effective in: \n\nReducing joint pain \nIncreasing lubrication of the joint \nStimulating cartilage matrix repair \nInhibiting enzymes that breakdown cartilage \nPreserving joint space \nAnti-inflammatory actions \n\nThe dosage that appears to be effective is 1500 mg of Glucosamine. The literature suggests that liquid forms are better absorbed than pills. The liquid (Joint Juice) or the pills can be taken once a day. \n\n \nThere is no allergic reaction known to glucosamine. No fish or shellfish products are present in the preparations. \n\nThere is no significant difference between the HCl and sulfate versions of glucosamine. \n\nThere is no over dosage of glucosamine possible that we are aware of.\n\nWide selection available at  www.gnc.com. Top seling product GNC Glucosamine 750 Chondroitin 600  ~ $34.99
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Semper Fi, Gunny!  No, I'm afraid glucosamine and that other "alternative remedy", chondroitin, have been studied quite extensively, and no measurable benefit has been found.  This remained true whether the two substances were used alone or together.\n\nOsteoarthritis is a real bummer - mine has taken a big hunk out of my life by limiting my mobility and my flexibility.  It eventually does a number like that on most people who develop the disorder.  The only way to avoid it is to choose your parents carefully.  \n\nThere are some prescription medicines that can help; see your doctor.  If what he/she prescribes does not seem to help enough, ask for a referral to a rheumatologist, an MD who specializes in illness of this nature.\n\nGlucosamine and Chondroitin are not the only "alternative medicine" remedies suggested by herbalists and others who shouldn't be attempting to practice medicine ('cause they ain't nowhere near prepared or experienced enough), and some of them have appeared, at times, to offer slight to moderate relief from some of the symptoms of osteoarthritis.  Those results simply have not proven consistent. You might take a dose of Glucosamine and feel great the rest of the day, but next time you take it, you don't feel any relief or you feel worse than you did before taking the second dose.  \n\nI have interviewed several dozen folks over the past thirty years who have tried Glucosamine and Chondroitin together and tried each seperately.  None of them has obtained the hoped-for relief from those substances.  \n\nThe choice of whether or not to try either substance or both of them is up to you.  But after reading the above, at least, you will be able to make a more fully informed choice.  Good luck, Gunny.  Hope you find some relief.
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I hope this is a genuine question and not a joke.\n\nIf you're having pain in the knees then you may want to try Obsteo-Flex, the new product that's being advertised, or a generic brand.\n\nGlucosamine HCL, Chondroitin, and MSM are known supplements for improving joint health.\n\nHopefully, you're not suffering from arthiritis but that could be a possibility.
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My husband and I use a product called "blue emu" it helps alot.  Also you need to start watching what you eat.  I'm very very arthritic and stay away from FAT, it totally swells the pain in my joints to unbearable.  It really works, trust me.  Also there is a product called MSM and it is a wood pulp derivative and works very well in elevating pain. Ive been at this game for some time now.  Follow all these steps and it should really improve your pain considerably.
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It is important to exclude septic arthritis because of rapid joint destruction in bacterial infection.\n\nMost effusions are due to bruising within the joint from acute trauma or from unaccustomed overuse of the joint. The wcause may not be immediately apparent owing to the delay in symptoms developing. Cartilage bruising subsides slowly and so warn the patient of the risk of wear if the cartilage is not treated gently while softened by oedema.\n\nEffusions serve to separate, nourish and lubricate bruised cartilage and so NSAID's and tight compression should probably be used with caution to avoid long term harm. The RICE physiotherapy plan remains the best treatment.\n\nSometimes there is more serious joint derangement requiring surgical, usually arthroscopic, intervention, such as for a bucket-handle tear of a meniscus in the knee.
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Glucosamine and Chondroitin Sulfate:\n\n  \nGlucosamine and Chondroitin Sulfate\n\nWhat are Glucosamine and Chondroitin Sulfate?\nWhat Do They Do?\nWhat Do I Look For?\nHow Do I Take Them?\nAre There Side Effects?\nCautions\n\nWhat are Glucosamine and Chondroitin Sulfate?\n\nGlucosamine and chondroitin sulfate are substances found naturally in the body. Glucosamine is a form of amino sugar that is believed to play a role in cartilage formation and repair. Chondroitin sulfate is part of a large protein molecule (proteoglycan) that gives cartilage elasticity.\n\nBoth glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate are sold as dietary or nutritional supplements. They are extracted from animal tissue: glucosamine from crab, lobster or shrimp shells; and chondroitin sulfate from animal cartilage, such as tracheas or shark cartilage.\n\nWhat do they do?\n\nPast studies show that some people with mild to moderate osteoarthritis (OA) taking either glucosamine or chondroitin sulfate reported pain relief at a level similar to that of nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) such as aspirin and ibuprofen. Some research indicates that the supplements might also slow cartilage damage in people with OA. Definitive results about the effects of these supplements are expected from an in-depth clinical study currently being conducted by the National Institutes of Health.
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No -- glucosamine works to improve cartilage, joint fluids, and thus improve flexibility which may make arthritic joints less painful.  You can certainly give it a try, although it is a rather expensive product.\nHope you feel better!!!
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I am puzzled as to why you are on Flexeril for osteoporosis & chodromalacia, unless you are using it as a sleeping pill.  You are awfully young for osteoporosis - are you on medications to help with that?  Have you considered surgical intervention for the knees?  It is better to fix the underlying problem than to try and treat the symptom (pain).\n\nLong term use of narcotics can cause you to not only become tolerant, but to develop extreme sensitivity to pain - things that don't normally cause pain might feel painful to you (opiate-induced hypersensitivity)\n\nI would consult a pain management specialist with the goal of getting off narcotics completely.  Contact your local hospital's anesthesia department for a referral.\n\nGood luck.
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There are a few different types of arthritis but the one you have is probably "osteoarthritis". Osteoarthritis is inflammation due to degenerative changes from excessive loading of the articular surfaces of the joint. In your case, this has most likely occured due to your prior injuries, which places more stress on the cartilage in your knee, leading to degeneration and pain.\n\nThere is no true cure for this disease, however various surgical and medical means exist that may relieve your symptoms or slow progression.\n\nSurgery: If ligaments or the meniscus were torn in your old injury, surgical repair can restore some measure or congruity to the articular surfaces thereby reducing the progression of osteoarthritis. More drastic surgical measures include total knee replacement or osteotomies.\nMedical: Various types of anti-inflammatory drugs are worth trying and can relieve pain as well as reduce swelling. Newer drugs called glucosamines have come into the market which claim to slow the degeneration or even promote repair of the joint lining, although concrete evidence for these claims is controversial.\n\nThe best thing you can do now is to avoid straining your knees too much. Exercise can strengthen the muscles around the knee and improve your condition. However, take care to avoid high impact activities such as long-distance running etc. Swimming and cycling are very good alternatives to consider.
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time sorry :(.... can try glucosamine to strengthen joints and milk at best attempt
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It truly depends on the cause of the pain. What joint is it? Are you overdoing some activity that is straining the joint? Have you been checked for arthritis? Have you had an injury at that location? If none of these are a problem, consider taking a supplement such as "Move Free" that contains condroitin and other proven substances to help with joint health.
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Depending on your age it could be arthritis.  The best thing to do is consult a physician.  They have to get an inside look to find the right solution.  I myself have some arthritis but find much relief and strength in my legs from doing Tai Chi and Chi Gung.  And I had a torn meniscus in my knee years ago (they did arthroscopic surgery).
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This is really a situation where the results will vary from one situation to the next. This depends largely upon the condition of the particular knee or joint at issue.\n\nYou may find that TCM helps you alot with this problem,.. but you would have to give it a fair try to find out. .... In my opinion,.. if you could find a practitioner of TCM who is also a "Chi Kung" master,... you would get the best results possible. .... They are out there.
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Maybe this helps.\n\nhttp://www.webmd.com/hw/joint_problems/nord700.asp