By wanting us out of Iraq, are liberals just trying to beat the record they set in Vietnam?
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kutekymme,, what is the previous record.  Do you mean the 30k+ civilians that Saddam GASSED to death?  Or do you mean the civilians that are housing the enemy soldiers who are shooting from the rooftops of their homes?\n\nAlso, What war has the lowest number of soldiers killed in it?\nI'll give you a hint, Iraq.
838125
YES, pulling out of Iraq now would be tantamount to the US Government pulling out of South Vietnam in 1975 and letting the Communist North Vietnamese coming across the border and killing 2 million South Vietnamese who had either worked for us or help us in the war and the \nPol Pot regime who killed another 2 to 4 million Cambodians.You are not wrong. What would happen \nwould be a signal to the Islamo-fascist terrorists that this country is ripe for a take over by them. We CANNOT LET THAT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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well you're right in your case "a liberation from earth" but I think that Bush has finally realized that we are really over there for no reason anymore.  We talked about this in class it is just like the Vietnam "conflict", were over there and invaded them but now, how do we leave? Nixon and LBJ didn't know and big surprise Bush doesn't either.  So our guys are over there fighting ghosts.
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They are two completely different scenarios.  Vietnam was an action to stop the North from invading the South.  America won every major battle in Vietnam, but arguably lost the war.  Why?  Because we would drive the North only so far and limited our actions against them.  They eventually signed a treaty, only to break it later after we pulled out.  Iraq is different in that we are fighting hostile Iraqi citizens in their own country, and not an opposing country tying to invade.  Vietnam actually had an end strategy, to supress the North into a treaty, which we accomplished momentarily anyway.  In Iraq, the heads of state have no idea what their exit stratigy is.
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I have a confession I'm a Liberal.  When people I know ask me I tell they that I'm a Democrat that is so far on the left wing that I fell off.  It's not that I'm imbarrised I just hate getting into it everytime someone ask me my party.  (LOL)  This is also a question that I ask myself everyday.  I don't want anymore lives lost over this war regardless of the country the person comes from.  I know that no time soon we will be leaving.  Bush has to much pride for that.  He will not back down from this war.  Hell, he can't adimit that he was wrong for prosueing Iraq.  I was against this from the begining.  I don't understand how our goverment and also fellow American got so side track from what we knew went on during 9/11.  I think we should have started with facts first then worry about solving all the detail to 9/11.  The facts were... we knew Osama Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11.  If we are going to war with him how did we end up in Iraq? We had no proof that Saddam Hussin had any thing to do with 9/11 and also we had no proof that Bin Laden was in Iraq.  Why are we there?  We still have a long time before we elect another president.  If the Americans can take the time to think for their selves they will vote for a Democratic president.  If we get one I strongly fill they will bring home the troops.  They probalaly will not bring them home at one time but within 2 yrs.  I think the Iraq war the first time was left unresolved by leaving Hussin president.  I don't think we should go to other countries and over throw their president but we wouldn't have a reason to be there this time.  This time to me is also stupid.  It is like another Vietinam.  We are accomplishing nothing.  I know they have been improvments their but look at all the lives that have been lost.  Most of the people in Iraq don't want us there.  They might want our help but they don't want a war in their country.  Their families are dying and at want cost to them.  So they can go vote for a president (that we had to approve of)  and know have a constuntion ( that we have to approve of).  They are told about all these desissions they are being allowed to make but they are chose from what we are allowing them to chose from.  They are not having a democracy they have a dictatership but instead on Hussin they have Bush.
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Liberals don't "suck the life of out of everything positive", there isn't much positive in Iraq.  Why do the Bushites make things look rosey when it's not?
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First, your question is flawed by assuming the war is for oil.\n\nSecond, I have done two tours in Iraq. The vast majority of Iraqis love Americans. The kids love us and want to shake our hands. The adults love us and regularly invite us to dinner and special occasions. They love us when we build schools. They love us when we build roads. They love us when we rid villages of insurgents.\n\nDon't believe what the liberal media is spinning. They have an agenda just like you.
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They just don't like what President Bush is doing right now with the War on Iraq,   They know that everything is going great with the economy, and that just drives them crazy.  Liberals seem to think more than act.
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Could we defeat them? Yes we could. Do we currently have the balls to jump in a furball with them and stick it out to the win? No, we do not. Witness Iraq and all the mewling and whining even after it was carefully explained that it would be a long, expensive process.\n\nShould we? No. All we need do is show that we have the guts and determination to finish what we started in Iraq, they will back off.
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First off, for those that answered, we are NOT in Iraq for oil. Our main oil supply comes from Canada. North America(including our own country) supplies almost THREE TIMES the amount of oil we get from the Middle East. If we were in it for oil, we would have invaded Canada long ago, and it would have been an easy fight(no offense to Canadians). It is well known(to those who dont ignore it) that Iraq harbors, even promotes, terrorism toward other nations. Well, it used to, before Good ol' Dubya handled it. So get some facts before you force your unfounded statements on everyone.\n\nAnd to answer the question, no, the war in Iraq is not over. It will not be until the job is done. If we had an immediate withdrawl, as many liberals want, Iraq would become a refuge, a hive, of terrorists, greatly increasing the chance of another attack against the U.S. We are trying to make peace, because you cannot keep it if there is none to begin with. If liberals really try hard and look into the future, then they will see that its for the better, but i highly doubt that their highly biased minds will consider that.
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Not me.  The ending of a war is determined on the battlefield, not with what happens in a political election.\n\nI hope the Dems realize that troops should be withdrawn when the job is done -- not when it's politically expedient for them.\n\nThat's what happened in Vietnam -- the antiwar left convinced our leaders that we had to leave, they convinced our country that we were in a "quagmire," and millions of Vietnamese and Cambodians soon became dead or exiled as a result.   \n\nA hasty withdrawal from Iraq would yield similar results.\n\n.
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Its what needs to be down to secure Iraq, but it wont happen because the American people as a whole don't want to be in Iraq.  Americans see Iraq as another Vietnam, but Iraq can't be won unless we see the middle east as we once saw the wild west.
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Only if you believe that our being an occupying force is going to succeed.  I do not know of any occupation by force that ever worked, except in Japan after WWII, and that only succeeded because of the inspired and compassionate leadership of General MacArthur.  We have no such inspiration or compassionate leadership today, and short of doubling or tripling our troop levels, which we do not have, we are only going to prolong this agony.  The fact that the Iraqis continue to fight us door to door, and show no signs of losing their will to continue, should be a message that is loud and clear.
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I hope not.  The liberals are getting worse about disrespecting anything that we as Americans used to believe in, including our soldiers and veterans.
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No. This whole "democratic" Iraq issue is an exercise in futility. You are absolutely correct about how true democracy must be homegrown and spring up from within a nation and the hearts of its people. It cannot be imposed upon them from outside. They will resist, at all costs, they will resist.\n\nYou would have thought we'd have learned our lessons in Vietnam. Ho Chi Min originally wanted to make Vietnam a western-style democracy, basing its constitution on our own. He spent several years in the late 1950s in Paris trying to get western governments (including the US) to support him in this quest. He was rebuffed and ignored.\n\nAll he (and most Vietnamese) wanted was to throw off the chains of colonial rule (French, at the time) and be a free and independent nation. When the West balked, he turned to the East and ultimately embraced communism, alas. The Viet Cong sent the French packing and you-know-who stepped into the breach. You also know the rest of that sad story... \n\nWell, the circumstances are somewhat different (no threat of communism in Iraq, but plenty of even worse threats) but the end result will be the same. We will ultimately bring our soldiers home (and God knows they deserve to come home from that living hell) and Iraq, like Vietnam before it, will be left in utter chaos. \n\nHad we supported the uprisings against Saddam Hussein, which occurred naturally, even spontaneously, after the first Gulf War, NONE of this would be happening now. That swine would have been deposed and a representative government would have taken power (the Iraqis, particularly the Kurds, are an intelligent and capable people). It may not have been exactly what the US wanted, and oil contracts might not have been quite as sweet for Exxon-Mobil and the rest, but this insane nightmare of an endless bloodbath would not be continuing as it is now.\n\nI'll stop now. Except to say that I really do hate bush and his arrogant advisers for dragging us into this no-win situation. \n\n*sigh*\n\nNo wonder everyone hates us so much....
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I get the feeling that the liberal left democrats and their ilk want all americans to get undressed and lay down so that when whatever country wants to invade us, when they are kicking us and raping us and robbing us they won't hurt their toes on our belt buckles or anything.
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No.  I actually believe this war is going to be WORSE than Vietnam.  Our willingness to be mis led by ingorant politicians will have severe and long lasting consequences just in the maryiads of terrorists incubated by this invasion and occupation alone who want to hand us our heads.  Vietnamese are willing to move on and not seek revenge for generations to come.  Some of the people affected by the war in Iraq won't.