In one of Sting's songs it says'There's no such thing as a winnable war.'Do you agree with that?
603934
He's right no one wins in a war. People loose family and property. There's nothing but destruction and chaos. Absolutely nothing positive coming from war. That doesn't mean that they are not necessary still nothing positive.
374725
Looks like a suicide pact.\n\nhttp://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/him/dontfearthereaper.html
842622
Good grief, people.....this is a reference to a song that was rather a big hit.  It's not a slam or anything.  LOL\n\nIt's not deleted yet, so maybe it won't be.
1005204
its a conflict in terms i guess. a oxymoronic idea but isnt all war moronic anyhow
921682
I don't know. This is why the world will end, because people are greedy, then someguy tired of greed is gonna put it all to an end. Talk about "Calm Like A Bomb" by Rage Against The Machine.
683527
Blah. I wonder this myself constantly.\n\nI personally believe no good will come out of this. I was discussing this with my American History professor, and she and I agree: this war is just another Vietnam. It started as a civil war Americans had no right involving themselves with, and now it has become extremely long and an absolute waste of our time.\n\nI absolutely hate people who say "It's for their own good; I know THEY don't think so, but it is." Who are we to decide what's best for others? Just because it works well for us (SUPPOSEDLY) it is the SUPREME form of government?! We are not those people's parents, their mother, their father, to determine what is best for them. We are a Super Power, yes, but we are not in control of other human's lives. There is nothing about Americans that makes us superior to Iranians, to Russians, to Australians, to anyone. \n\nIf our economy is rising, it is because we're producing machines for war. That's the concept plus Keynesian "priming the pump" that got us out of the Great Depression. And then, of course, the economy went into a slump afterward, so there you go. \n\nPeople believe this is a moral war. All it's doing is making forgein peoples hate us more for the common American attitude of superiority and "city on a hill"ishness from the Puritanical days. It's creating tension that doesn't need to be there that will hurt us and many people in the near future. We aren't "defending democracy." We aren't trying to "free" the Iranians. It's all a load of self-interest and a fake sense of superiority. \n\nI doubt Americans have any intention of paying for this war or any of their other debts. Most large powers don't. We learned before WWII not to demand repayment such as war reparations, because those played a large part of getting us into that particular war. \n\nAlso, I heard on NPR that Bush was thinking of changing the name from the "War on Terror" to the "Long War." \n\n"Blind patriotism." My thoughts exactly. Anyone who will follow something so blindly as to refuse to see the reality that the people Bush is making into our "enemy" are humans just like us is an idiot and should be ashamed of themselves. \n\nYes, at one point in time there WERE "weapons of mass destruction." Bush Senior gave them to them because they were afraid of being invaded by their neighbors. The U.S. had and has oil interests there and needed to preserve them, and so President Bush Senior gave them those weapons. U.S.-crafted. That is factual.\n\nBut whether or not they existed when our present President went in to look for them is VERY dubious. I and many intellectuals I know, some of them conservative while I am liberal, agree with me that it was a matter of oil interests. America hasn't been an independent oil-supply for a very long time now, and we are a highly mobile society. Hence there is a problem. \n\nFrance used to respect the U.S., during JFK’s presidency in the Cuban Missile Crisis, because it was its belief that we would never invade a country without solid proof. Do you see what has happened to America? In just forty short years, considering we are already such a young country, our foreign policy has turned from a very loved president’s, JFK’s, to George W. Bush’s aggressive, half-cocked launching of human beings blinded by patriotism for oil interests.
606130
saying the falklands war was a war was like saying the US conflict with grenada was a war.\nboth were no more than very serious war games.
426441
everyonce in a while I listen to rush just to prove to myself that I am giving both sides a fair shot at reaching me. As painful as it is, I would have to say that it is a very good feeling to know that I am correct (never "right").\n It also lets me know that there are many on this site who cannot form an independant thought if it was tied to their pee pee and wore lipstick. As for a civil war, I would have to say that anyone that listens to rush more than as a passing joke isn't bringing too much intelligence to the fight to begin with, so bring on the hate breeders.\n\n  and also, what could a known drug abuser bring to any argument. How do we know when he is snorting oxy contins and when he is just thinking about snorting oxy contins?
398049
YES! Why should people have to fight a war that they don't believe in, when really there doesn't need to be a war at all?
144051
you cant win a war on drugs when there isnt one.the goverment supplies the drugs so there is no war
558216
Hey budz, Have you heard the song.........You can't always get what you want. Oh well I would if I could but I can't so I won't. sorry dude.
579842
There was a great essay I saw on this the other day, here:\n\nhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/26/155350/677\n\nThanks to the original writer, I couldn't have said it better myself.  You can't wage a war against an emotion.  It's like the "war on love" or the "war on sadness", the "war on regret".  You just can't "win" or "lose", there is no goal.  I'm still trying to figure out how people got Iraq mixed up with "terrorism", despotic and tyrannical dictator and murderer, sure, but not a terrorist.
658589
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."--\nThomas Jefferson \n\nPeace is won through war, and can only be truly appreciated after it has been fought, bled, and died for. Being a pacifist will make you a victim. We can't just be the "nice guy" to the world and expect to be respected or taken seriously. Would you respect someone who just kisses everyone's a*s, even after he has been repeatedly kicked in the balls? I want peace (believe it or not), but not at the expense of our national sovereignty and dignity. Simply bowing to the demands of dictators and terrorists to avoid war isn't peace, that is scarcely better than slavery. I would rather die a free man with a gun in my hands than live for a hundred years by our enemy's permission. \n\nREMEMBER 9/11\nNEVER FORGIVE! NEVER FORGET!\nPEACE THROUGH VICTORY!
1092210
first of all war is not evil, okay let me rephrase war is evil if it is to kill and murder innocent but if war is declared to stop evil for instance Hitler majorty of the world will agree that hitler was evil yes? But if it wasn't the wars he would still have his way... what I am trying to say is war is not evil if it is fought for the right reasons, for freedom, for the innocent, and against evil to stop evil i might add something later on to this but for now this is it. gtg
582131
Unfortunately, there has always been war, and I have no reason to think that the world will ever be completely free from it.  There has never been complete world peace and I don't think there ever will be.  \n\nI'm not of the doom and gloom mentality, I'm just realistic.  And if you're the least bit religious, then you know that this world is corrupt and total peace will never exist here.
626108
... Does anyone ever win a war?
775804
I think we should do what that general suggests.  There has never been a war, in which a force that went and lived up to laws of morality, and the other side did not, and the first force, winning.  Sometimes, you just have to be cruel to win.  I think what this general says is a great idea (I know it sounds kind of sick)  Just kill the people that decide to ruin other's lives, I see no wrong in that.