Are we merely fighting wars for Israel?
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Occupied Jerusalem: 3 October, 2001 (IAP) -- According to Israel radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael, [Shimon] Peres warned [Ariel] Sharon Wednesday that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us."\n\nAt this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying "every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."\n\nThe radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers warned Sharon against saying what he said in public because "it would cause us a public relations disaster."
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You know, I never realized this until the last year or so, and see how old I am! A bit dense, I guess. I feel like some of this goes back to the U.S. being so Christian and religiously based. They probably feel like the Jews are still 'gods' chosen people, and want to protect and be in league with them.\nIn a way, I undestand wanting to protect helpless people. However, Israel is not a helpless country any longer, probably more powerful than a lot of other countries.
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I don't think so,we have a good deffence system.For Israel,of coarse they thought about occupin' Egypt,& may they still think.we all know that thier dream of thier mighty country from Nile till Frut.it's the dream that they work for till thier lives & try all possiple legal ways & illegal too to make it happen.But I don't think they will try to do that soon.Of coarse if they saw that we got weaker at any moment they will try to occupy us.SO,we should always look strong & enhance our army more & more so they have no chance at all with us.\n:)
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I would say yes.\nwe were losing, and we had to win at all cost. I say the ends justify the means.\nand we had to win decisively, we had to establish ourselves as the superpower so no one would try that crap again.\nand above all, it was not just some war fought over politics. we were up against murderers and racists and people who wanted to destroy the world. people like that must be stopped, even if it means killing them to make them stop.
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Israel has always held a special position in the world by way of its stranglehold on the US Senate and media. The US says what Israel wants it to say and does what Israel wants it to do.\n\nIf Israel decides to keep its attacks on Gaza quiet, there's not much you or I can do about it. It will be kept quiet. Even in this forum, comments against Israel are suppressed. Just read the previous posts.\n\nBesides, Israeli soldiers murdering innocent women & children in cold blood is nothing new. They've been doing it for 50 years. I've seen footage of an Israeli soldier taking careful aim at a young man running for his life and then firing live rounds. He took 3 full seconds to aim. You do not aim for 3 seconds when you are firing in self-defense. He missed, then he laughed with another soldier who was standing beside him. They looked like they were hunting ducks or something. That's the Zionist mentality. Non-Jews are considered less than human.\n\nOthers have questioned why some say Israeli deaths are acceptable while Palestinian deaths aren't. The difference is that Israelis are occupiers. The land that is now Israel was taken by force from Palestinians. If a burglar breaks into your house and you kill him, it's called self defense. It's the same thing. Israel is the burglar. Palestine is the house.
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yes of course they have to fight back\n"you believe when you see" iv been there and hell yea...\n\nask yourself when Israel invaded Lebanon what happened?Lebanon fought back that's what happened that's why Israel left Lebanon eventually. but whats happening now in Palestine and Iraq and soon Iran proves that peace was never the answer.i believe that "before freedom comes struggle".till when will we ignore this?a big part of revolution is evolution we should evolve to whats happening now we should learn how to say no and fight back."before revolution comes evolution"
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Yes this is really a no win for us. What do we hope to gain from the war we are in. A wise man once said that "War must be avoided in all circumstances". If I get best answer you will know who said that.
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arabs, palestines, are right. providing evidence huh?.. i just have a little story. after israel occupied palestine (we all know how that went) i red some months ago this article which said that mothers and children, in palestine, were going to the soko, that is.. market, to buy food because the israeles had allowed them to go out at that particular time, but it seems some soldiers weren't updated so they started to shoot them and killed many. i also recalled alledgendary "suicidal blowups terrorist boys" who said they were told by the israeli army to confess that just for political propaganda. israelis are commiting genoside and as far as i concern, it's not even their land -but of course, england and us always playing world judges- and that's the result. more than 20 children below twelve are murdered every day.. and no1 who does that could ever be right "they fight with tanks and M16s and we only have our bodies to blow up " said one terrorist woman. i think it pretty much sums it all up. love . dani
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They haven't.  We have stupid people who have never served in the military who are running a war that they fabricated, and Israel is always in a warish state...
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Now that Hamas is in power? I don't know. But it does put Israel in a better position. They can't really declare war against a faction, but they can against a government. Now that the govt. is controlled by the extreme faction, it would be easier for them to declare war and get away with it.
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In my opinion I don't think so, Hamas is just a resistance motion against Israeli Occupation, as in any People resistance in any country !!!
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you are exactly right.and Israel doesn't do anything good for anybody except there self's.\nIsrael will do ANYTHING for themselves only.\nand anybody want to see what I'm talking about come to Palestine and see with your own eyes.no one tell me we see it on the news.BC they do not show you anything on the media except what Israel wants people to see
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When soldiers dont follow the rules of warfare it is very hard for Palestinians to fight them. Remember these pigs kill kids who are throwing stones to protest the occupation. Israel is the place of the devil, they are destroying sanctity of the Holy Land. Israel is filled with nightclubs, gay parades, and heartless IDF pigs.
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the british wanted nothing to do with the zionist movement, and if you haven't noticed, europe was decidedly more hostile to the Jews far before the Arab world decided to start blowing them up. remember the holocaust? you should also remember that the british fought against the zionist movement that became the state of Israel, but simply didn't have the political will to defeat it. another thing that you should think about: if you were the Jews, and had been mass murdered in one continent, none of the other continents let you take refuge there either, and had a historical homeland close-by, wouldn't you flee there too?
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IT is about time someone spoke up,and thanks for your courage.Under the protection of the united states Israel has behaved so badly in it's dealing with its enemies.When one objects to their inhumane behavior,they raise the antisemitic flag.This is supposed to quell opposition to their actions.
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For some reason we seem to think we need Isreal as an ally, i think we would make more allies if we supported the palestians, Israel is a country that was imposed by the UN. It has got to be embarrassing if you need the UN to start a country for you.
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The war is not stupid, unfortunately.\n\nIt is a war of annihilation.\n\nThe Arab states intend to kill every Jewish man, woman and child.\n\nThat includes YOU.\n\nDon't say you're not Jewish.  You belong to a Christian nation.  Christians are just a Jewish Sect, according to Islam.\n\nWhen Israel dies, you're dead.  I'm dead.\n\nUnderstand what the history is.\n\nA short allegory of Israel:\n\nPretend that Israel is an apartment building.\n\nSome jews live there, some Arabs (Jordanians). Many empty nasty apartments.\n\nThe Health Department says you Jews need a place to live. Take these places, fix them up, live here.\n\nTired Jews move into vacant apartments, in spite of the hatred and attacks and murders by the Arabs (Jordanians).\nThem fix up the apartments, live quietly, and protect themselves.\n\nHealth Department comes by and says, good job, you can keep the apartments and the building itself.\n\nJews now own the building. Arabs (Jordanians) say "Oh my God, they will murder and kill and rob and rape us simply because we murdered and killed and robbed and raped them, how unfair!!"\n\nArabs (Jordanians) run away leaving vacant apartments.\n\nAbandoned apartments become property of the landlords (Jews) and are turned over to other settlers who move in.\n\nArabs (Jordanians) go to all other Arab countries and whine about reparations and poverty. Other Arab Countries kick them out.\n\nArabs (Jordanians) decide that they need a new image.\n\n"Hey!!! We're Palestinizers now! Palestinites? Palestonians? Palesturgers??? (Gets out Liberal Arab Talking Points Crib notes) Oh! Palestineans! Right. These mean thoughtless cruel non burkah wearing Jews have DRIVEN us from our ancestral lands in Palestan. Wait!! Palestine. Boo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo (are the cameras still on me?) Hoo. We are peaceful people so murder them, rape their women, crush their children, blow up their weddings, funerals, cafe's, busses, wait - don't hurt the furniture, we'll need that!"