Are minority set aside programs morally acceptable?
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Once worked at a bank-still have friends there. Yes they are set aside certain programs from minority. Because they do face different situations that make it difficult for some.   ----\n\nexample-- the foreigner would have different surroundings with no family support being away from home. Another would be language until one learns to communicate with a business world how would they buy a business (or work)to sustain himself  (or herself) How would he buy so it was done to a legal standard. So we don't have sustain him . Race doesn't cut to much loans-one way or the other (unless you used a facility that caters to some--usually private) Now on to Women no real help there- neither--unless you go to Women Institution just like race. The numbers seem pretty even -on loans given to race or sex-very even- -not a bank issue.   But some very good Bank loan officers who give loans-know where these extra loans can be found to help you get a loan through them (who will take part responsibility) -they will find them for you (for them)-if you have reason. Many smaller (sometime Private but Rich) are very good places to go. They want you and they will try harder. So there are programs for more foreigners than there would be for American Citizen  does not matter what sex or race .  And other program could be found got to look harder.  And the banks do have to "account for" if none of these programs or avenues are every used at their bank. It does happen. Sometime with reason.  These program has been in for quite a few years now-not new. How do you think we got so many of the Franchises .\n\nNo sure what you mean morally acceptable-what is immoral about programs?\n                      Best Wishes if your looking for one
648681
it is immoral but not illegal
698419
Excellent!\n\nPeople are all for special perks and programs until it directly effects them in a negative way.\n\nHere's how you explain it to the young college crowd: How about if we take the average grade for the class and give that to everyone regardless of whether or not they studied, did their homework, or even showed up for class? Then, black and Hispanic students get a 10% bonus for simply being black. Do you think that's fair?\n\nI haven't heard one logical argument from any one of them.
1101314
Affirmative Action is a ridiculous idea.  How does it make any sense to say "we are righting the wrongs, removing race from being a factor, and ensuring that a man is judged on merit rather than skin color" and then say, "here's the program-- if you're black, you definately need that boost to even attempt to be on an even plane with whites."\n\nIt's racist against blacks and whites-- it eliminates the idea that blacks can be intelligent without a booster seat, and it discriminates against whites who are better qualified.
1078623
That doesn't really sound like a discriminatory policy, since it has nothing to do with race, sex, religion, or any other protected class. It's a reasonable policy based on the need to reduce fraud.
1076378
Your logic is correct.  Giving amnesty to a group of individuals is discrimination against those who have broken other laws.
996083
nope, social issues are the province of individuals and governments not buisness.  Letting buisness use moral teasers lessens the value of the issue.  Instead make a better product and reap the rewards then donate to charities that you favor.
733642
Anything that perpetuates the demand from our society for all white males to feel guilty for something they had no part in is  wrong. I haven't been discriminatory towards anyone, unless they are just plain ignorant, and I should be discriminated against by anyone either.\n\nAffirmative action was needed up to about fifteen years ago, but it is time for either a phase out plan or complete stoppage.
321343
in Omaha there is a movement to seperate the schools back along racial/ethnic lines under the theory that students will learn better amongst people more like them i guess. I dont really think this is a good idea because as history has shown us, seperate but equal really does not hold much water as a idea. It is ulitmately up to you if you feel the segregation is a healthy practice, however the action is very controversial constitutionally because it is in seemingly fairly obvious violation of the brown v board of education of topeka case.
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I don't know if I understand the question correctly.  But if you're describing a situation where the college assigns housing based on race, I think it would be.  If, on the other hand, the "majority/all of the students"of a particular program, let's say for example, a sports team, or international students, or first-year students, are of a distinct racial minority on that campus, it might be trickier to prove intentional racism.  What it can be is institutional racism- that is, if the admissions recruiters always look in the same places for the same faces, and they keep getting one group, such as European Americans, and then they have this special recruitment effort to get a particular sports team that is majority-minority (for that campus), then that would fit institutional racism.  The legality part is tricky, because the courts and those who write the law haven't stood up to institutional racism with much backbone.  They seem to look for a smoking gun- intentional discrimination.\n\nIt's similar to how people look at Affirmative Action. Those who see no long, unending, government-supported history of institutionalized racism seem to oppose Affirmative Action.  These same opponents are looking for the same smoking gun. They often claim that they are not personally responsible for racism, so shouldn't suffer any remedies.  The reason Affirmative Action was created, under President Kennedy, was to look at the patterns of discrimination, and say- hey, when we can prove a long history of discrimination, we can't count on this pattern to take care of itself.  When confronted by two roughly equal candidates, take the underrepresented group, who has been historically harmed by discrimination/racism/sexism.  By the way, the group that benefits the most from Affirmative Action has been white women, who have benefitted second only to white men from the very system of white privilege that sees the best education, best housing, and best jobs, protected for them.\n\nThe second group sees Affirmative Action as either effective, necessary, or still not enough.  I would consult a lawyer, and probably not the feds to get an opinion on your case, if it's effecting you at this college/university.  There are still too many majority-white institutions of higher education who do not know or care to know how to recruit AND retain a diverse student body, and who have a disproportionate number of students of color on their sports teams.  I see a pattern that seeks redress in the national picture, but not sure about the specifics in your case.  Check out various national organizations working on these issues- see some listed below.  Best of luck.  Document everything.  Write it down, email it, etc.
850820
It's not acceptable, and every African/Asian/Native/Latin/Arabic-American knows it. The notion that anyone else is responsible for what their grand-pappy did is asinine. Slavery is gone; it's not a personal problem for anybody. However, racism is not gone, and it is a real problem. HOWEVER, minorities perpetuate it just as much as they suffer from it.
773960
Yes. By using the example of the immorality of others, feel free to commit crimes. Sheesh.
454968
so if the program was completely filled with only indians, would you find this discrimination against other races? what if it was only white people, would it make a difference? my best guess at quota systems is that they are designed to prevent racial monopoly. ie all white schools have to let in other racial groups. the whole thing is racism regardless of fairness. no race should create a monopoly in any resource and then block out other races from having equal oppurtunity.  maybe this is not happening in your situation, then im sorry if your being discriminated against
1036222
Excuse me?\n\nI'm not sure I get this question...\n\nAll people should be equal, regardless of culture, or race, so I guess my answer would be yes, because, for some reason, we are all wanting this, or that...
921546
Other states are in fact eliminating affirmative action stipulations because affirmative action it and of it's self sets up and environment of preference because of color. I believe business for the most part is color blind, if a person has a good or service that they can provide at a lower cost artficial stimulation because of race is wrong, whether that person is white, black, yellow or purple.
325183
No,exclusion is cruel and possibly barbaric.It wouldn't change how good or bad the world is that much because its wrong and faulty.
274217
Morally not necessarily\n\nRealistically yes