what is the difference between a dark and a goth guy?
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It seems like you're arguing semantics to be, but here's my best guess.  Goths have a mindset that accepts death, while dark guys actually like death.
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"Gothic" originally referred to a Germanic tribe, the Goths. This tribe later split into the Visigoths and the Ostrogoths. The later, architectural sense is derived from the Italian word "gotico", meaning 'barbaric, rough'; referring to architecture that was the opposite of classical architecture.\n\nLater, the word "gothic" became associated with things 'Germanic', and from that, something with grim overtones (from the differences in Ancient Germanic and Ancient Greek mythology). From that we get the modern meaning of the word "Gothic", meaning 'dark, grim', etc. found in terms like "Goth rock", "goths" etc.
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You have to realize that high school goth has nothing to do with real goth.  For them it's a fad and a fashion.  Real goths don't have a set way of looking.  But I have to agree with you that teen "goths" all look the same.
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Not all gothes are bad people and if your friend is a goth u should respect her, in her decision and if that person keepz bullen her stick up 4 her and show your friend you care about her!
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I'm a goth Pshycic, Believe it or not. Here are some names:\nBurdened with death,\nDeath upon his sholder,\nSunny skys straigth to Hell,\nGod where have you been hiding,\nColors are for the week.
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What do you mean by gothic in the first place? Well if you mean gothic like people exhibiting a fascination with death and darkness, then it doesn't exactly glorify God right? Jesus died for us at the cross. He defeated death when he rose again from the dead. He made us right with God. That equals hope, hope, hope. The dark elements of gothic culture is contradictory to the hope of Christianity.\n\nHowever, if it's simply "superficial gothic" you're referring to, like someone who's into lots of black clothing nailpolish eyeliner blahblahblah and it has nothing to do with the condition of the heart ,then it's fine.
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thats cool man\ni am a gothic and  I dont mean\nan stupid white boy who dresses on black\nI hate those guys\n    ..:: Gothicdevil ::..
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Dark is the absense of light.\n\nIllumination is measured in foot candles (in the US anyway) which is roughly equivalent to the amount of illumination created from a candle 1 foot away.
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No way, are you kidding me?\n\nYou're just expressing yourself... if anything you may be a little rebellious. That's completley normal and understandable.\n\nBesides... what you described is not what a "Goth" person is.\n\nAnd a person cannot be "Gothic". They can be a "Goth". The term "Gothic" refers to a form of architecture... you know, a lot of churches are "Gothic"-looking.\n\nDon't change, express yourself the way that you want.
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Well, the line between "emo" and "goth" can be very slim.  That's one of the things that is so awful about labels - they can have different meanings for different people.\n\nWhy would you use either label?  Why not talk with your Mom about the things you worry or care about, and leave the labels behind?\n\nGood luck!
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I wrote this for a similar question.\n\nWell, Goth is, I guess you could say a subculture somewhat in the way that punk is. The "Goth Rock" scene took off from the Punk Scene the late 70s - early 80s. Goth is associated with specific types of music and dress. A lot of "dark" things influence the Goth culture; horror films, 19th century literature, romanticism is a huge part. Most Goths wear lots of black clothing, makeup for guys and girls, etc. Not all Goths are Atheists as many believe; they have many religious backgrounds, as do Punks. Punk, like I said is also a subculture. It started with the music of "Punk Rock" in the 70s. There are many different types of Punk scenes; they tend to link very closely with the music their scene is related to, in their beliefs, dress, literature, etc. All Punk scenes are really pretty different, though most people think of Street Punks with their Mohawks, boots, and studded leather jackets. No however, people who are not directly associated with Punk or Goth culture lump them together, mainly based on their ignorance of the said culture. I have heard people say..."I am so punk, I buy everything at Hottopic." Well, I highly doubt any true Punk would ever shop at that store. Also, you may have heard the, "If you say you're punk then you aren't." Actually Punks as well as Goths identify them selves as such, they know what they like and believe, and they wish to be associated with this culture.
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This past year in my house will see dark shape very briefly-shape seems to be moving  but am not afraid . Shadow has shape that indicates person but doesn't indicate male or female.  It'll startle me sometimes but never feel threatened or intimidated. Don't know what the shadow shape is--do know not a demon for there are no demons at least not the kind reflected in art or illustrations.No mentions of God creating demons and Satan does not have the ability to create-perhaps demons are only  a human concept but not real. Not sure if I believe in ghosts for if we die and move on who are the ghosts.
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Goth primarily is about music and fashion.  In my opinion it grew out of the new wave music scene when things started to get 'dark' in sound.  It's interrelated to industrial music as well and you'll find most goths tend to be into industrial.  The social center of the goth scene tends to be the nightclubs where people put on their finest goth threads and go out and mingle with other goths and listen to music. It's fun, it's sexy, and for the most part that's as deep as it gets.\n\nUnlike punk, goth has no consensual political viewpoint.\n\nIn short, it's all about the music.
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Well, there is a very good historical answer above, but to me being goth is the embrace and beauty of the darker side of things, life and human emotion...make no mistake...it is not evil things. Embracing being sad as much as being happy, for it is also a human emotion. \n\nPeople of course will always take it too far.....to those I would remind them that life will suck if you pretend (or allow yourself) to be angry or sad all the time...plus other people won't really wanna be around you. \n\nI, as a younger me, was all out gothic....clothes, makeup, friends, music, etc...now I don't look like that, I will go to a bar even if it doesn't feel like a cave or dungeon, have hip hop and country friends, dress to suit my profession, listen to all types of music, but you know what...most people can still tell that I have gothy tendancies.\n\nAnd yah..I would marry the real life version of that character from Corpse Bride.
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You do realize that most of the clergy wears black, don't you?  Maybe those who you perceive as goth or punk are just very pious.  I don't think that's the reason, but just something to think about.\n\nWearing certain clothes or being punk or gothic does not say anything about your morality or religious beliefs.  Many goths and punks are devout Christians, Jews, ect.  Don't judge a book by it's cover, and don't judge lest ye be judged.
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Back when Marilyn Manson was an unknown and I was a punk rocker, I liked him.  Since then, I've gotten bored with his music.  Most goths dislike him not for his music, but for the fact that he's thought by many to be gothic, which he most certainly isn't.  His style of dress is more glam, a la KISS, while his music is heavy metal.\n\nGoths always hate to be stereotyped, and even worse is to have the stereotype set by someone who isn't even goth.  Then there's the whole issue with popularity.  Marilyn Manson is popular, while goths are part of a counter culture.  So goths feel they must distance themselves from anything popular in the mainstream, which accounts for their dislike of his music.\n\nTruth be told, if Marilyn Manson were a relative unknown in the music world, goths wouldn't care much about him. Some would like him, most wouldn't, but there wouldn't be a big arrgument about it either way.  The whole issue here is popular image, and goths don't like either one of those words.
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Cyber goths are a strange breed.  Instead of wearing all black, they tend to wear day-glow colors and dress in futuristic garb.  The listen to industrial and electronica music, and they're sort of half way in between goths and ravers.