Regarding the "Gospel of Judas" Do you feel that Judas was predestined?
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the gospel of judas was written in 300 ad in egypt, it a gnostic gospel , judas had nothing to do with writing this gospel. the gnostics also wrote other gospels like nathans stevens and marys among others, gnostics could be compared to new age believers today who think knowledge is the ultimate goal of humanity. theyve turned satan, in the garden of eden, into good character , now you want me to believe a gospel from the gnostics about judas is true when they believe satan is a good guy because of his knowledge .. come on
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I loved this portrayal of both Jesus and Judas. The song that Judas sings right after the death of Jesus is so moving; it makes me cry everytime. This portrayal of Judas is also somewhat close to the portrayal of Judas in the recently discovered "Gospel of Judas", at least from what I've heard about it.\nPlus, King Herod's song is just fantastic. "Walk across my swimming pool" now that is something even Jesus would laugh at!
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and my christian friends should thank Judas also ....because if he hadnt betrayed Jesus ....there wouldnt have been any salvation possible .... why is he always titled as  a satan...By the way lets see if Gospel of Judas bring some truth .......\nI am a Muslim and Quran tells us that Jesus never died neither did he wished so .....some person (may be Judas) betrayed him ...and he was crucified inplace of jesus because God made him look like jesus...Jesus has been raised up alive in the heavens and he will return ..
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To the first poster and anyone after me,  I say "whatever" there is a purgatory.  If there's a hell and a heaven then there's a limbo then.  Just because it isn't mentioned in the bible don't you think that it may have been written out of the bible.  Remember folks the bible was created by men perhaps thru God.  The Roman Catholics belief that it truly exist and perhaps the Christian and the other similar don't believe in it.  To answer your question, Judas may have been sent to Purgatory and may have been forgiven but it is the author's personal theory on Purgatory.  I hope this helps you out in my answer.
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Before it reminded me of Jewish religion. \nNow it's Judasrabbi....I hope God isn't mad at me for thinking that...lol\n☺
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:]\nThe copy of the Gospel of Judas was in Egyptian, therefore a copy from the original language (Greek). It is a single manuscript copied about 300AD, the only other knowledge that we have of its existence is that one of the Church fathers spoke against the veracity of a book by the same claimed author in 160 AD.\nIt's amazing to me that the same people who doubt the New Testament (24000 ancient manuscripts) would jump to accept this.\nWe know that Judas died in about 33 ad and would probably not have had enough time or the mental and emotional stability to write anything like a new gospel in the short time he lived after the events (included in that gospel) regarding the death of  Christ.\nWhat we have is a single manuscript, in the wrong language, dating to more than 250 years after the death of the claimed   author. a denial of it veracity and tons of scriptural evidence against it, and the integrity of it's alleged author\nsome prefer to suspect that the holy spirit made a significant error of omission in assembling the word that Jesus had promised would be sure and would pass away even if heaven and earth did.\nNo I relegate it to the same shelf of malarkey as i do the other gospels (Thomas, Phillip, Barnabas, Mary and any others )
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well i read somewhere that judas was meant to betray jesus in order for him to be put on the cross and forsake himself for out sins. intresting theory i thought.
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For the first part it is simple ...\nThink about this: we are all God's creation and one way or another we carry on God's will. One of the assets given to us is free-will, the will to do as we choose. God's purpose now is to guide us on the right path, but it is us who must walk it. Judas did not know God's will at the time, it was much later that people were aware of what Jesus' death actually ment.\nThe fact that God intended it doesn't excuse Judas' act. It was Judas' choice to betray his teacher and this alone makes his act evil, just like any treason. God doesn't mind-control anyone. He chose to betray Jesus to the romans, thus he is a traitor and his treachery is ten-fold since we are talking about the Son of God (something Judas really believed or he wouldn't be an Apostle).\nAlso the fact that he's a traitor doesn't mean christians should hold a grudge against Judas. After all, he was forgiven for his actions did lead on the right path.\n\nAs for the accusations against the Jews, whatever they had done then, it's all done and it subscribes to the same things I've said above.
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If you understand the nature of the "Gospel of Judas" and related works, I think you'll agree that the New Testament gospels are a better bet by far.  (By the way, there are FOUR of them, and all tell of Judas's betraying Jesus.) \n\nThe "Gospel of Judas" was one of a host of "Gnostic gospels" that began to pop up in the second century (decades after the four gospels in the New Testament).  The Gnostics believed that they were a very special elite  (beyond the common, 'run of the mill' Christians) who had been given a very special, secret knowledge that was withheld from everyone else.\n\nWhat that implies is that the REAL truth must be something hidden, a secret that 'ordinary' people (or ordinary Christians) do not and cannot get, only the initiated. \n\nWhat the Gnostic gospels have in common is that they pick ONE person to whom Jesus is supposed to have told "the REAL plan", which was different from what everyone else thought.\n\nInteresting implications of this are\n1) ONLY Thomas, or Judas, or whichever person supposedly had been given this special truth and passed it on, had the truth.  So only ONE of these gospels can be correct. ALL the other gospels (including all the other Gnostic gospels!!) had to be mistaken!\n2) Because it was a SECRET, revealed on the sly to just one person (initially), you could not DISprove it by pointing to all the evidence and teaching that did not fit in with it!\n\nAs for Judas.  Since this "gnosis" or '(hidden) knowledge' was a secret NOT revealed to anyone else, and was beyond the understanding of ordinary 'unenlightened' folk (Gnostics wer real spiritual elitists!) it makes sense for it all be a big surprise (not at all what you would expect from general Christian teaching).  That would make Judas an ideal choice.   You see, the ordinary people THOUGHT that Judas chose to betray Jesus.   Only the enlightened knew the truth!\n\nBASIC GNOSTIC BELIEFS in short: \nElitist (not accessible to most people), can only have ONE gospel (all others false), the special knowledge CANNOT be proven false (historical evidence does not count), and incidentally, thinks VERY negatively about the physical world (Christian view, like the Hebrew was that the physical world was created good... believed in a REAL physical incarnation of Jesus, the hope of a physical resurrection  vs. Gnosticism which holds that the spiritual world is good, the material world is evil)\n\nDo people understand that THIS is what the "Gospel of Judas" and the rest are about??   Is that really what folks want to believe?  (Or maybe the information they are being fed about it doesn't tell them some of these things?)
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No. Jesus stated very clearly that Judas was the son of perdition and that it would have been better for him to not have been born.\n\n\nJohn 17:12\nWhile I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.
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The background of The Gospel of Judas is in itself an interesting tale no matter what you think of it's contents.\n\nThe manuscripts were touted round the "gray market" for years before being purchased. According to their owner, Dr. Mario Roberty, the manuscripts are papyrus and consist of:\n\n- a Gnostic codex in Sahidic dialect containing:\n\nthe 'Gospel of Judas'\nthe "First Apocalypse of James" \nthe "Epistle of Peter to Philip"\n\n- the 'Book of Exodus' in Greek\n- 'Letters of Paul' in Sahidic dialect and a\n- 'Mathematical Treatise' in Greek.\n\nPublication of a translation is planned by the National Geographic Magazine.\n\nAccording to wikipedia "The National Geographic Channel will be airing a special entitled "The Gospel of Judas" on April 9, 2006 at 8 pm" as well.
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Well, I see it like this: God's will was already established both the good and the bad. But we are floating around with a choice to become either Judas Iscariot or Peter. Both were choosen to be Apostles, both sinned against God, however, only one of them chose to repent with godly sorrow and not just because he got caught like Judas did. People always say, was Judas predestined to go to hell? No, I don't think so, I believe God's will is predestined not the people that will choose themselves what part they want to play. So, predestination for those who don't want to receive Jesus because they think it will just fall on them are wrong. Proof of what I just said can be found in Deut 28, where he set before us both blessings and cursings, see the plan is set, but what part of the plan you'll be in is entirely up to you,thus, your freedom to choose! God bless you girl!
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The myth goes that Jesus gave his life to assume the burden of our sins. The myth is, of course, a load of codswallup. \n\nHow does the crucifixion count as an appropriate sacrifice? Quite simply answered, the correct response is; "It doesn't."\n\nJesus spent a few hours, maybe a day, in agonizing pain; but it was no greater pain than millions of others have suffered. In fact many people have suffered greater agony for more extended periods of time virtually every day since the dawn of Man. \n\nIf Jesus really is God (or the son thereof), then He knew exactly what was happening, and exactly how long it would last. There was nothing about the event for which he was unprepared to deal with on a physical, psychological, or emotional level. If there WAS something he was unprepared for, then he could clearly not be God, or the son of God.\n\nWhen it was done, He supposedly ascended to heaven and became the all-powerful ruler of the universe. This is infinitely greater compensation than even the faithful will receive, and infinitely less torture that the damned will receive.\n\n-SD-
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I am not sure if he was, but our current bible is missing several books.  Each of the 11 disciples wrote a book (all but Judas), but we only have 4.  Also, bear in mind that the Catholic Bible and Protestant Bible have different books.  However, although I am sure he probably wrote "something" about Christ, I can not say for sure it was a "book," and that his book was rejected.
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"For the Son of Man is to go just as it is written of Him; but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had not been born." \n\nMark 14:21 \n\nDoes that really sound like someone you want for a role model?  The gospel of Judas was excluded from the Bible for good reason; it was not the inspired Word of God, and is therefore heresy.  The Bible clearly warns against this.\n\n"I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book;"\n\nRevelation 22:18
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It shows that ALL gospels, including the ones found in the Christian's New Testament, were written as a result of their own theology, rather than historical events that they witnessed. Each author had an agenda, and so he wrote stories about Jesus that 'proved' his agenda. The author of the Gospel of Judas believed that Jesus gave permission to Judas to betray him, thus absolving Judas of any wrong, so he wrote a story to 'prove' it. The others gospels did the same thing.
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I Belive that he is for i belive that we are. and i belice it was the apostle judas?? im not positive though