with out using the bible or any reference to the bible prove the existence of god?
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Valid point.  At the very best, if proven, any argument for a deity can prove "god".  I use a lower case "g" on purpose.\n\nAll the arguments for god (which, by the way, were derived by Aquinas from the pagan greeks) at best, only prove a deist creator.  None spell out a specific "G"od, much less Yahweh.\n\nThis is all despite the fact that centuries of rational thought have exposed the glaring holes in these arguments.  Nevertheless, as I said, even if they WERE rational arguments, the only "prove" deism, nothing more.\n\nSo we arrive at the same standpoint most people are anyway...is the God Yahweh?  Jesus?  Buddhah?  Allah? Native American Corn God?  Arguments for ID and a creator prove nothing about religion.\n\nJefferson and Paine were both strong deists, who bought every argument these theists could throw down about the existance of God (though great men both, not their strongest positions, in my opinion.)  However, both men abhorred Christianity and theism in general.\n\nArguments for "g"od get you absolutely nothing, and leave people exactly where they were before, choosing their own deity.\n\nThat is why the bible has nothing to do with proving "g"od.
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There IS no way to prove or disprove the existence of any deity, as is the same with anything supernatural. The supernatural is definitively NOT scientifically testable. You can give evidence one way or another, but it is debatable as to whether we will ever have the ability to prove or disprove the existence of anything supernatural - including deities.
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Maybe. And maybe not. The point of religion is that it is based on faith, not knowledge: so proving God exists would actually destroy all possibility of religion, because it would render faith impossible. You can only believe in something that may not exist. Believing in a God whose existence is rationally proved would be like believing in the postman, and THAT would be goofy nonsense.
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The bible is something that someone made up.\n\nHell doesnt exist.\nHeaven doesnt exist.\nThere is no God.\n\nThese are my beliefs.. I'm sure you'll receive lots of different responses to that.
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Without a shred of proof?  There is MUCH more proof that there is a God than you would imagine.  The evidence is overwhelming, actually.  I tell you what, if you can convince me that it is more logical to believe there is no God than that He exists, I'll change my beliefs.  Are you willing to accept the same challenge?
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Yes, it is proven in the same way you would claim to prove that George Washington or Christopher Columbus existed. Based on evidence provided by witnesses. \n\nNo one now alive has ever seen Washington or Columbus, but we all accept that they lived based on accounts from the period.  Same as Christ and God-- we can know Christ walked on Earth based on accounts written by witnesses (even those not included in the Bible, since you're so against that--there are secular reports of His earthly life as well, read Josephus among others). As for God, we see the order and beauty in the creation around us and see His handiwork & know that He exists.
63526
god may exist depending on your religeous  beliefs.same goes for the devil.however if your a bit skeptical of these beliefs you may be one of those other people who belive science provides an explanation to everything.
545500
i believe i am god. i can't prove i exist though
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I believe in God.  I believe man wrote the Bible, and I agree with you that it is inaccurate.  That does not mean that God does not exist.  For the same reason, just because you do not accept part of it, does not mean you cannot accept God.
517155
There is no "proof" of God. Do you know the definition of FAITH?
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there is evidence of God. look at some of the crazy things that happen that just don't seem possible. and what about the Bible? If you can't believe a Book that is the Word of God, how can you believe anything? even science, since man came up with it and man is not perfect? if there is a God (and I believe there is) than it only makes sense that He be perfect. but man is not. I personally would trust God any day.
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First of all, I believe God does not exist.\nIf you want a reason then contact me.
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- The Bible says god exists\n\n- Just have faith\n\n- Just pray\n\n- Just believe, that's the only proof you need\n\n- You have to discover him for yourself\n\n- The creation\n\n- Just look in your mirror\n\n- Well, the world couldn't have just happened by chance. Trillions of planets exist and one has life, no, it couldn't have happen by chance.\n\n- You're alive aren't you?\n\n- He only speaks to you if you want to hear him\n\n- The universe\n\n- The complexity of the human body\n\n- The answer is in you\n\n- Meditate\n\n- Just look around you\n\n- My children\n\n- Common sense\n\n- Life proves he exists\n\n- You can't disprove his existence which means he exists\n\n- The miracles\n\n- I almost was in a car accident and was seriously injured, it was not known at first if I would survive or not. I went to a hospital of course. The hospital workers were extremely well trained medical professionals with years of experience. The equipment they used for tests in order to help me make a full recovery were top of the line. Modern medical science truly saved my life, therefore god exists.\n\n- God himself is proof that he exists
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Honestly there is no way to prove the bible. You can prove some of the history the bible tells us but you cannot "know" if its real or not. It takes Faith.  And to me and the things that have been revealed to me in my life it takes more faith for me NOT* to belive the bible then for me to belive it.
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How can you prove that it does exist?  Faith is not proof it is opinion.
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You can just add details to your question, so people can see what you're talking about.\n\nAnd also, as I said in my other post, if you can believe that god came from nothing why can't others believe that something else has just always been?
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There is no concrete way to test for proof of God.\n\nPeople who say they know that there is a God, simply BELIEVE there is a God. To say that the world around you is proof of His existence is not true proof. God could have made everything, but science has proven otherwise.\n\nSo unfortunately, each one of us will not be sure of God's existence until our own individual existence comes to an end.