How can gays be Cristian's when the bible condems it?
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Are we starting this again this morning? The entire Yahoo Answers seems to be obsessed with this topic this last week.\nLet me clarify once and for all:\n* homosexuality is something born with, not chosen (why \n  would anyone deliberately choose such a difficult life-\n  style in our society?)\n* The bible does condemn it.\n* how do I explain this paradox? I don't know. It just is. \n  not my fault, I didn't write the bible or create peoples\n  sexual tendencies.\n* why did God create something and then condemn it? I don't\n  know that either. Heck, maybe he didn't, and Satan got \n  his nose in there to mess with us. Or maybe one is not  born with it, but it's a  product of environment and   experiences. Maybe I'm wrong in\n  my previous statement. I DON'T KNOW, AND YOU DON'T EITHER.\n* Only God knows the answer to any of this, and apparently,\n  he ain't tellin'! For the time being, anyway. Maybe he \n  just threw in stuff like this to test how we would react, \n  hateful or tolerant.\n* The fact that the bible, in my interpretation, condemns something hardly  means\n  that I have to go around condemning or persecuting it, I\n  was not born to be the judge of the world. The bible tells\n  me to love my fellow man, sinners and saints alike, and\n  be a good example of Christianity, lest I steer others \n  from the faith by turning them off to religion by watch-\n  ing my sins. \n* In this case, that could include sins of \n  bigotry, hate, and abuse of all who don't belief exactly\n  what we think they should believe, if we Christians aren't\n  mindful, and fall into a trap. \n* besides, what if my interpretation of the bible is in-\n  correct? It could happen, you know, to all of us.\n* That said, and religion aside, it is still a hate crime in\n  this country to persecute others on the basis of their \n  sexual orientation. It is also not allowed in Yahoo \n  Answers.\n\nTo sum up, we don't understand why this is, but it doesn't matter either. Just live and let live.\nIMO.
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Yeah, they have women preachers and gay preachers, both of which are against the Bible.  Open hearts, open minds, open doors, and open disregard for the Biblical teachings.
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Right on, brother! I'm with you all the way. That's the last thing Jesus would do, especially knowing that he purposely created that problem on earth for both gay and non-gay people to deal with. No pain, no gain. If you can be gay and make it through life following the good rather than evil in your heart, congratulations! In my opinion you've made it to heaven. The same holds true for non-gays when it comes to following the good in their hearts.\n\nPS,  I believe there is at least some genetic (gene) component that predisposes most gays to their attraction to the same sex. If so, who but God gave it to them?
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Read Exodus 20 & Romans 1.  They explain the root reasons of homosexuality.\n\nLean not on your own understanding, but trust in the Lord.
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ToLiveIsToExplore,\nIt true, and I am glad that you noticed. The Laws of before were to illustrate different things, especially having to do with Christ in His relationship to sin, and the human relationship to God. You put way too much down that I want to go through right now, so I'll keep it short, (I'm moving right now).\n\nHomosexuality is not a special sin. It is covered by the blood of Jesus just like any other. So people don't go to Hell for being Gay, rather they go to hell for not trusting God through Jesus Christ.\n\nSo if you are Gay, be Gay and trust God to fulfill His promises. So the focus isn't on sinning, it's about trusting God.\n\nWhy do some Christians bring it up all the time? Because they are not taught the truth. They believe that certain people are worse sinners than they are. And that's a bad attitude. Their pastors are sinning everytime that message is brought by them to the congregation.
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it is wronge. the bible says it is wronge but it is also wronge to judge and treat people bad. the bible says go and be shepards of men and treat others as you wont to be treated meaning that i am supposed to let a gay person know if i get the chance so as not to offend them that God says its wronge but i am also to respect them and treat them like humans which they still are. does this answer your question.
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We KNOW that the truth of the Bible isn't just in the way the words are used, but in the way they effect our hearts and souls.  As for your "boat,"  Hate the sin, love the sinner.  Homosexuality IS  a sin.
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It's just like sticking a pin into jesus..that's my catchphrase from now on...I'm fighting religious unreason & superstition with more of the same...\n\nI have a vodoo doll of Joseph's son and every time anyone on YA gratuitously says Gays are sinful or should repent,then in goes another pin. Suggest any other victims of gratuitous Christian cruelty do the same.\n\nIt's easy to stop..just don't use your religion to be cruel.
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This is a serious question and I don't appreciate others making light of it.  First of all, the Bible is clear that being homosexual is a sin.  "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet" \n(Rom 1:26-27).  Just look at the example of Sodom and Gomorrah (Gen. 19:24)!  Now, can a person be homosexual and go to heaven?  Well, if one has a sin of which is not repented, then he will perish:  "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish" (Luke 13:3, 5). This is talking about the "2nd death" which is Hell.\n\nPut simply, "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind," (I Cor. 6:9).  The "abusers of themselves with mankind" is refering to homosexuals.\n\nNow, God is a just and righteous God!  He would NEVER make it to where someone was UNABLE to repent.  Therefore, homosexuals are that by choice.  They can choose to repent, and obey God faithfully, and get out of that sin.  "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it" (I Cor. 10:13).  Therefore, these that are involved in this sin are able to come out of it.  They can escape it, and repent, and become Christians, and then go to heaven!  How wonderful our God is.  The God of mercy, the just One!\n\nI hope this has helped.\nPlease e-Mail me if anyone would like a Bible study (Treytrumpet1@hotmail.com)
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Under "sources" is an interesting article on Christians and Homosexuality (it brings up some interesting points and answers your question in a more educated way than I could, having never read the big'ol'bible).\n\nIt starts out:"When Christians pour their judgment on homosexual men and women, they do nothing less than make a mockery of their own savior, Jesus Christ. The grace they are willing to accept as followers of Christ is suddenly not good enough to extend to those they find offensive. It's a double standard, based not in biblical truth but in fear and the desire for control. To understand this, we must understand what Christians believe, and how their beliefs are being subverted from living in love to the canonizing of condemnation...."
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The Bible is a historical book of human interpretations of God's relationships to humankind. As we error, so there are errors in the Bible. The truth they point to remains the same - somewhat like their being potholes in a road but the road still leads home.\nGod will always love you. Love is not a matter of sexual orientation, but of a blossoming relationship with the Almighty who died to save you.\nGod bless you.
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God accepts gays and lesbians...\n\nHe accepts ALL SINNERS if they turn away from their sins and ask for forgiveness.\n\nA gay is a person who has chosen a path of sin.\nA lesbian is a person who has chosen a path of sin.\n\nA murderer can come into the kingdom of God if he repents, and asks for forgiveness, and accepts Jesus Christ as their personal savior, and SINS no MORE.\n\nIf the person who has chosen a path of sins TURNS fro that path and decided on another path without sin, and does the rest, then they can also enter the kingdom of heaven.\n\nGod does not hate the sinners. He hates the SIN.\n\nComitting a homsexual act is in God's eyes an abomination. \n\nA person is not Born a murderer.\nA person is not Born a Homosexual.\n\nA person becomes a murderer when they commit a murderous act. They Chose to comit the sinful act.\n\nA Person becomes a homosexual when they commit a homosexual act. The Chose to commit the Sinful Act.\n\nA person can be born with homcidal tendancies, but they are not a murderer unless they are weak and they ACT on them.\n\nA person can be born with homosexual tendancies, but they are not a homosexual unless they are weak and they ACT on them.\n\nGOD can give you stength to NOT act on these sinful temptations.\n\nAnd yes, it is OK to be attracted to animals A person can be attracted to animals and enter into Gods Kindom. Unless they ACT on these attractions, they have not sinned. Beastiality is an ACTION not a way of life. It IS a sin.\n\nWe don't here anymore about NOT giving in to the Devil's Temptations. Why Not?\nDon't give in to temptation and you will NOT Sin.\n\nIt is the CHOICE of disobedience which is what you get Punished for. If you believed in God, and have chosen to be obedient to God, then you will not choose to give into temptation. Then you will not sin. \nThe next time you look at a person of the opposite sex lustfully, understand that you HAVE a CHOICE NOT to act on those Feelings.\n\nYES, I am sure Many people have entered into the priesthood because they CHOSE to be celibate. They decided having NO SEX at all was better than risking eternal Damnation because they gave into temptation and had homosexual Sex.\n\nRemember, a Person is Not a Homosexual until they commit the Sin. SO it is OK for a priest to be a priest as long as he does not act on his homosexual tendancies. (we have read that many have given in and that is why the Church is geting sued about so many alter boy situations).\n\nYour sins will be forgiven. Go and Sin no More.\n\nP.S. Ala would have the person committing the homosexual act STONED to DEATH With no hesitation.\n\nP.P.S. Christians are always required to DEFEND their Fairth from those who persecute them. Even though the Constitution guaratees freedom OF religion, this freedom is being challenged by those that read it freedom FROM religion. \nThe Congress shall make no laws restrict the free expression there of.. And they don't, but the liberal judges think they are Higher than the laws and try to legislate from the bench.\n\nP.P.P.S. A church can WELCOME all gays and lesbians. They also could say that they Welcome ALL sinners. Where do you think CONVERTS come from???
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Being Gay is wrong here is your proof\nRo 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: \nRo 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. \nRo 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: \nRo 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
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My advice to you is don't listen to the Christians. They use the "unnatural" and "abomination" arguments so much they've lost all meaning. Homosexuality is not a sin. I, like you, know good people who happen to be gay. And to address your confusion with the logic behind the persecution, there is no logic.
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To the one who thinks he's the Bible and God expert. Being gay IS NOT a sin. Doing "gross" things with people of the same sex IS a sin. People are born being gay, so they can't do anything about it. Nobody can force you to like someone.
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Well, mainly because it goes against what the Bible is purported to teach, but even that is not quite correct. \n\nGays and Lesbians...I just call it the Gay community...are different...anything that is different...people look at in another way.\n\nPersonally, I believe that we are all just people.....and all of our lifestyles are different in some way.....so it doesn't matter.\n\nI have worked with Gays, have Gay friends, have a Gay step-son and a Gay cousin.  These people are open, friendly, most are very well adjusted and know where they are going in life.  They have little excess emotional baggage like heterosexuals do, since they disposed of this by coming out.   They are my most trusted friends and I respect them as they respect me.\n\nI have worked with Gays who are not well adjusted, and have counseled them  (my job).  We are all the same, same thots, same dreams, same responsibilities.  We all strive to be better and to live together.
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birdman,\nI think that one of the most influencial Gay people in all the annals of history is . . . . King James (Prince James) who was responsible for the translation of the King James Bible. He was about as Gay as anyone could be. \n\nIt's not like there weren't any bibles before that, there were. The Great Bible was the main bible of the time, but the King James became more used sometime after that. \n\nBut look at it's influence upon so many people, for so many years. I have no doubt that King James was a saved man, though Gay, and could quote verses and argue effectively with the clergy of the day. He would look forward to the chances that he got to do so.\n\nStrangely enough, those that are most strict with their condemnation of Gays, use the King James Bible, while saying proudly that they use the "inerrant word of God" the King James 1611 version. \n\nAnd they don't.\n\nNo. The 1611 King James Bible had the Apocrypha in it. The Puritans decided that it should not be in there, and so it was taken out.\n\nSo the Fundies that condemn Gays are:\n1) Wrong about the Bible.\n2) Wrong about condemning Gays, rather than presenting the Gospel to them\n3) Are using a Bible that was funded lovingly by a Gay \nking.\n\nI call that VERY influential!