All Americans want to win in Iraq. A nephew died there. What does winning mean? It is part of the battle.?
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to start with my heart goes out to all that have lost love ones in Iraq.\nmy husband is in the Australian navy and has gone to Iraq,\nthe sleepless night that i had while he was away was not worth it at all.\ni want the truth at why we are there also,\ni feel that this is a war for power from the USA government\n(GET OVER IT) none of your children, grandchildren are sent to fight so why should we send ours to fight your war of madness,\n\nwhat will you really have if you win????, \nwill it ever be over ??????\nhow many more of our husband, fathers, children, grandchildren must die for your power trip??????
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they only have to win the "hearts and minds" of the Sunnis now, the Shittes and Kurds are peaceful, so far all of the bombings occour in the Sunni area (they account for 20% of Iraq's population) the US is also planning to withdraw 50,000 soldiers by the end of next year since the new government is in place and some Iraqi security forces have been trained.\n\nThere is no clearly defined victory in this case, we could (techinically) declare victory and leave but if we did that Iraq would be left in a state of turmoil which would hit the popularity level of the US more than if we stayed. The only way out is to get the people over there to work togeather, then we can leave them alone(until they start killing again).\n\nIraq cannot be compared to Vietnam since Vietnam had a clearly defined enemy that was clearly being defeated when media images of death and destruction reached the US. When we left all that was left defending Vietnam was a 1 million strong South Vietnamnese military(although corrupt could have won the war with US support within a month of the first US withdrawals) We in essensce abandoned South Vietnam when North Vietnam forces were weak and gave the communists enough time to recuperate and finally take down the corrupt South Vietnamnese military.\n\nPeople have no confidence in the US military, although the Generals did not have everything they wanted going into this war we can still bring "victory" this war isnt something we can pull out from easily because no matter what we do there are adverse effects. Although it wasnt very smart to fight in the first place, we are forced to go through with it.
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No. I think that this is something personal for Bush. It's a "I'm President now and I'm gonna get you back for trying to kill my dad" type thing. Also, we all know that there is plenty of oil over there. Well what is Bush's family biz? You guessed it, OIL. We did what we set out to do over there. We got Saddam out of power and we should've helped, not take over. I'm not a very political person , but this whole conflict and the deaths of so many people just makes me and I know alot of you wonder what is really going on
835300
Yes. Octobers U.S. death toll was the highest yet. Our troops continue to die in a battle that can't be won. When all the Iraq people are dead, maybe then our troops can come home.
1066850
Exactly...this is another Vietnam...it might not be the same scale casualty wise (at least American casulaties. Iraqi deaths are right up there). It's ridiculous. We never should have been there. I don't think it's the military's fault that there isn't progress...I'm sure they're doing what they can but there is only so much you can do before you realize that things aren't going to get any better. Insurgents are nasty and they'll stop at nothing to kill someone. This war is going to be going on for a long time unless something changes and unfortunately we have to wait a couple more years before those changes can begin. We destroyed a country now we're going to have to pay for it ....probably for the rest of our lives. It's a sad situation with no real end. You still have people out there saying that it was good that we went in...we got Saddam...we didn't go in to get Saddam. We went in to get weapons and the only ones we've found are the ones we sold them years ago to fight Iran. Interesting how that works out isn't it?
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Nobody wins.\n\nThe last time we "won" we had to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians in both Germany and Japan. If our self-styled leadership wants to go big, and basically exterminate one of the Muslim factions in Iraq, we could slow things down for a short while, and bring our kids home.\n\nThen we could send the chairborne rangers (see above) over and let them flap their gums at the Iraqis. Nothing like tough talk from a bunch of wimpy kids to set things straight, you bet!
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It's more like the insurgents in Iraq won the US elections. Now they know the Americans can't stand to fight a tough battle and actually stay with it long enough to win. The Iraqi people are the losers here. Now their country will fall into the hands of terrorists, become a breeding ground and training camp for Al-Queda. Very sad.
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we cant win for losing. Had we not acted against Saddam wed have been criticized for not taking a stand. We acted and now we are criticized for having been too aggressive.
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No, we mean that it was a bad decision to go in, and it will go down in history as a political and military humiliation.  It does mean we want to lose the war, but rather that it was obvious from the start that we were going to.  Yes, we did over through the Iraqi government, but now we're stuck there with no indication of any viable way out.  And if you think we lost in Vietnam because people protested you should consider picking up a history book.\n\n_______________\nI believe I did not misspell anything.  Your spelling comment was both ignorant and unnecessary, as is your apparent believe that political ideology is absolute and is the defining characteristic of the individual.  Oh, and it would be "the liberal who," not "the liberal that."
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You gave your own answer.  You are correct that the insurgents don't plan on winning...they know they can't.  But, they do plan on wearing down the will of the American people and count on the western media to give them the hand they need.\n\nThey have believed since the deposition of the Shah of Iran that Americans are a weak-willed, chicken-shit, tough-talkin' bunch of softies.  Only since 9/11 have they had to re-think that supposition.\n\nRight now, the extraordinary men and women of our armed forces, and that of our coalition partners are giving them pause.  What THEY assumed would be a soft target has turned into a quagmire for THEM.  THEIR resources are strained, THEIR young men are dying for nothing.  \n\nI believe that our armed forces and their families would argue vehemently that our troops are indeed fighting and dying for the cause of freedom.  The fact that the long-term success of their mission will be judged in terms defined by a media bent on disgracing them and destroying their Commander in Chief, will not affect their dedication to finishing what they started.\n\nI think your premise and your question are disingenuous, and simply designed as flame-bait.
980823
Winning is defined by whoever writes the history. Can't the cons just claim it, pay some journalists to say it, and publish it on the Fox website? (and quietly bring the troops home?)
632794
It means kill everyone in the battlefield. Leave no one alive.
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What is happening now is what will happen when we leave.  There is no real democracy in Iraq, democracy is a heck of a lot more than votes.  It is a collection of shared social and political values put into a formal construct.  Iraqis do not have the values, the experience, and the sharing that would produce democracy.  Sectarian strife will continue, intensify when we leave, and the only thing that will keep Muslim extremists from taking over will be a situation much like the one we ruined, rightly or wrongly, by invading.
834515
Bad news for the troops.\n\nThe Democrats feel that defeat will serve them politically.  So they will work to ensure that defeat.\n\nThe real losers in this election will be the Iraqi people.
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His goal is to stay the course.\n\nTHAT MEANS.....more americans dying everyday in this endless struggle for the Iraqi people. I think he has a quota of 25,000 dead troops, and at least 75,000 casualties. He's on track for that.\n\nA smarter idea would be to let the Iraqis run their own nation.
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American soldiars are freedom fighters too. Isnt that why we're in Iraq? There are children being killed there by American bullets and rockets.
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Yes, it would appear that most immediate family do support both wars. If you were to watch unbiased coverage on television, you would get this impression from family members interviewed as well as audience responses where they are in the audience. Most parents of soldier killed in action believe if we don't pursue the war to it proper resolution--a self-sufficient Iraq--the lives of their sons would have been lost in vain. As a tribute to the fallen, they believe the war should be continued until it is won honorably by us. I'm not an authority on the subject but I do listen a lot as I'm a "news junkie" and a reporter once-upon-a-time.