Who Can Explain the trinity to me?
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Anyone who seriously wants to learn the facts about the Trinity can find all of their questions answered  by reading a brochure that documents the Trinity's history & how it developed; discusses religious explanations of it in the light of God's word (including live links to those Scriptures); shows & discusses the Trinity  "Proof Texts" (more live links); and also shows who God, Jesus and the holy spirit are ... according to God himself, & Christ himself (more live Scripture links).  \n\n-- Certainly, God and His Son know who They Themselves are!  ...  \nSo how could you go wrong there!?  --  \n\nI hope you'll examine all the Scriptures used, in your own Bible ... whatever translation it may be, and whatever denomination you might be!  (However, the Catholic Douay is numbered/divided differently than others, so Scriptures can be difficult to find, but they're still there.)\n\nYou can find this brochure at:\n\nhttp://www.watchtower.org/library/ti/index.htm\n\nShould You Believe in the Trinity? : \nShould You Believe It? \nHow Is the Trinity Explained? \nIs It Clearly a Bible Teaching \nHow Did the Trinity Doctrine Develop? \nWhat Does the Bible Say About God and Jesus? \nIs God Always Superior to Jesus? \nThe Holy Spirit - God's Active Force \nWhat About Trinity "Proof" Texts? \nWorship God on His Terms \n\nAbove, is a list of the main subjects covered in that brochure.\nYou might also like to view even more such information about God and Christ Jesus ... For that purpose, links to articles about them are listed here:\n\nWe Need to Know Who God Is;  \nWho Is God?   \nhttp://www.watchtower.org/library/w/2002/5/15/article_01.htm\n \nIs Jesus Christ God? : \nWho Is Jesus Christ? \nWho Is "the Only True God"? \n"Those Who Are Called 'Gods' " \nWhat "the Only True God" Promises\nhttp://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2005/4/22/article_01.htm\n\nOn each Web page whose links are provided above, is a list of links -- on the left -- to the rest of the subjects/chapters in that series/brochure. \n\nI hope you don't mind that I've not attempted to answer your question myself.  I don't wish to be part of what can turn into an online debate.  I have both read, studied , and compared the Scriptures to this brochure in it's entirety.  I find it in comlete harmony with Bible teaching.  Therefore, I recommend it highly!
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The Trinity is the combination of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost as three "people" making up one God-head.  It came about in the early Church as a way of reconcile the three figures mentioned in the New Testament with the single God of the Old Testament.\n\nIf there was a fourth one, I guess it would be called the Quadrity ("trinity" from Latin for "three-fold", "quad" is Latin for "four").\n\nActually, the "we" and "us" mentioned in Genesis has nothing to do with the Trinity.  It's called the "royal we", a term that royalty uses to refer to themselves (God is "King of Kings", is he not?).  Queen Victoria gave a famous example in reference to a performance of Gilbert & Sullivan's HMS Pinafore, "We are not amused."  "We" refers to herself, but since she is queen, she doesn't say "I am not amused."
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I don't believe in the man made doctrine's of the Trinity. There's no Bible basis for the Trinity.
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Trinity is not excepted because people do not understand the meaning but they think they do but are wrong. The true meaning you said before. Three + unity = trinity. 1+1+1=3. The 3 being as a single digit representing God but containing 3 whole separate numbers representing Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. These 3 are equal but have diferent functions. an egg contains 3 parts but is one also. 3 in 1 motor oil has 3 diferent typs of lubricating substances but are mixed as one, yet have diferent lube propertys and purposes. Trinity has a complex understanding in which many people will not agree because of thier lack of understanding. 2 people will believe the same thing but one will deny the trinity.
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Within Christianity, the doctrine of the Trinity states that God is a single Being who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as a perichoresis of three persons (personae, prosopa): \n\n- Father (the Source, the Eternal Majesty)\n- The Son (the eternal Logos or Word, incarnate as Jesus of Nazareth)\n- The Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost (the Paraclete or advocate). \n\nSince the 4th Century AD, in both Eastern and Western Christianity, this doctrine has been stated as "One God in Three Persons," all three of whom, as distinct and co-eternal "persons" or "hypostases," share a single Divine essence, being, or nature. \n\nSupporting the doctrine of the Trinity is known as Trinitarianism, and is opposed to the positions of Binitarianism (two deities/persons/aspects), and Unitarianism (one deity/person/aspect), which are held by some minor Christian groups.
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There aren't any.  The best you will find are a couple of verses that, when taken out of context, seem to be vaguely describing a trinitarianish relationship.\n\nThe fact is that the Trinity is not supported by the Bible and you would have much more success finding scriptures to disprove it.
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The concept of the Trinity is often hard to grasp. In your question, you seem to show that you believe that the Trinity did not always exist. According to John 1, Jesus was with God, in God, and God from the begining, they were never seperate (except when Jesus took on the world's sins on the cross). in John 10, Jesus states that 'I and the father are one,' in John 10:30. The plainest biblical evidence for the Trinity falls in 1 John 5:7, where it says "7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. "\n\nEach Godhead (The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit) are God, and the same one God, yet they are different. They each have their distinctive roles, yet are one unit.
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He certainly helped to define it.\nSt. Augustine brought together several strands of thinking:\n\n 1. there are “triadic” traces of the Trinity in the human soul: For example:  triad of self-knowledge (memory, understanding, will)\n \n triad of self-love (Lover, Beloved, Love)\n \n\n \n 2. the Spirit is the basis of the union between God and believers, and believer to believer. That is, the Spirit is the giver of community\n \n 3. “God is love” (1 John 4:8, 16)\n \n\n \n\nAnd proposed:\n\n the Holy Spirit is Love personified\n \n Just as we experience the Holy Spirit as the “bond of love” between believers, the “giver of community,” so too within the Godhead, the Holy Spirit is the Bond of Love between Father and Son  Hence that triadic trace of the Trinity in each of us -- the “triad of self-love”\n \n\n \n “Economic Trinity” = “Immanent Trinity” is being assumed\n \n\n \n\nIn this model, Love (the Holy Spirit) must of course proceed from the Father and Son, not merely from the Father. Scripture (John 20:22) provides further support: Jesus, appearing to his disciples after the resurrection, breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. \n\nThe Son is the Word of God, Spirit is the Breath of God, proceeding from the Father and the Son.
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The Concept of Trinity is the teaching of Church and not the Teaching of Jesus...In fact there is not a singel word pronounced as Trinity in the Bible... The only verse which is somewhat nearest to the concepet of Trinity is the First Epistle of John 5:7 which says "For there are three who bear record in Heaven, The Father, The Word and the Holy Ghost and these three are one"...\n\nSurprisingly this verse has now been removed by 32 Christian Scholars of the Highest Eminence backed by 50 Cooperating Denominations, they say that this verse is not found in the most ancient manuscripts and hence is a fabrication. You don't find this verse anymore in INV and RSV though other Bibles are still quoting this fabricated statement.\n\nTrinity was actually highlighted by Paul and he was directly inspired by the Roman Paganism...\n\nFor more Information...\n\nshiekhtm@yahoo.com
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The Holy Trinity is the Father (God), the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit. However, these three persons, although separate are also one. 1 John 2:23 says "Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also." This basically means that the Father and Son are equal. It also says this several other places in the Bible. The Great Commission also tells us to baptize believers in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. So, in conclusion, they are one and the same.
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Jehovah is what you're going for.\n\nAs for the trinity, what do you make of Genesis 1:26-27?\n\n26Then God said, “Let US make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27So God created man in HIS own image; in the image of God HE created him; male and female HE created them.
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE "TRINITY"\n\n1st of all Jesus said: He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.—Joh 6:56, 57.\n\nJesus’ being called the “only-begotten Son” (Joh 1:14; 3:16, 18) does not mean that the other spirit creatures produced were not God’s sons, for they are called sons as well. (Ge 6:2, 4; Job 1:6) However, by virtue of his being the sole direct creation of his Father, the firstborn Son was unique, different from all others of God’s sons, all of whom were created or begotten by Jehovah through that firstborn Son. So “the Word” was Jehovah’s “only-begotten Son” in a particular sense,\n\nJesus is also “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.” This does not mean that he usurps the authority and position of Jehovah, who is “God our Father.” (2 Corinthians 1:2) “He [Jesus] . . . gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3;\n\nDoes the Bible teach that all who are said to be part of the Trinity are eternal, none having a beginning?\n\nRev. 1:1; 3:14, RS: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him .  Why did God have to give Jesus the revelation, if Jesus is God?\n\nDoes the Bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the Trinity is greater or less than another, that all are equal, that all are almighty? Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)\n\nJohn 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”\n\n1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven. \n\nA person who is really seeking to know the truth about God is not going to search the Bible hoping to find a text that he can construe as fitting what he already believes. He wants to know what God’s Word itself says. He may find some texts that he feels can be read in more than one way, but when these are compared with other Biblical statements on the same subject their meaning will become clear. It should be noted at the outset that most of the texts used as “proof” of the Trinity actually mention only two persons, not three; so even if the Trinitarian explanation of the texts were correct, these would not prove that the Bible teaches the Trinity.\n\nI COULD GO ON & ON WITH SCRIPTURES & EXPLANATIONS, BUT I THINK THIS ALREADY TO LONG FOR SOME PEOPLE.
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Good question.\n\nIt's part of that confusing concept: the trinity. Tri-une means three which are at the same time one. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are all together one God!\n\nLet's face it. God invented the concept of 3 and he can ignore any rules he wants to, especially when he is not a physical object.\n\nGod's Triune nature reflects God's infinite complexity. God is more complex than we can understand. The finite created mind is not greater than the infinite creator.\n\nGod's Triune nature also reflects God's relational nature and his self-sufficiency. God by himself is in perfect community while being complete in himself.\n\nHumans are not. Humans are created in the "image of God" which means we relate at a higher level (language) than any other creature. In fact, human beings need relationships. Solitary confinement often sends people insane. So we seek to become a complete unit by uniting with a partner. We survive in community because we are not self-sufficient.\n----------------------------------\n\nTo sit at The Father’s right hand was to be given the place of power, blessing, honor, preeminence and rulership. Literally the highest place and to share in that throne. \n\nIt also fulfills a Messianic prophecy:\nPsalm 110:1  YHWH (God's name) said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, till I make Your enemies Your footstool."\n\nHope this helps.
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I believe in God but not the trinity. (God is not all in Jesus, but Jesus was all God)\n\nBut even as a God he had to humiliate himself, by walking on the earth as a man.\n\nTraits of a human Body\nJesus became wearied ( tired ) ( John 4:6 ) \nJesus became hungry ( Luke 4:2 , Mt 4:2 , Mark 11:12 ) \non the cross just before he died he said I thirst ( John 19:28 ) \n\nHe showed human emotion\nJesus wept ( John 11:35 ) \nJesus loved ( Mark 10:21 , John 11:15 , John 11:36 , John 15:12 , John 19:26 ....) \nJesus was angry ( Mark 11:11-21 ) \n\nAn argument for support of the married status of Jesus is that bachelorhood was very rare for Jewish males of Jesus' time, being generally regarded as a transgression of the first mitzvah (divine commandment) — "Be fruitful and multiply". According to this reasoning, it would have been unthinkable for an adult, unmarried Jew to travel about teaching as a rabbi.\n\nIn The Gospel of Philip, it is said: \n"There were three who always walked with the Lord: Mary, his mother, and her sister, and Magdalene, the one who was called his companion. His sister and his mother and his companion were each a Mary." \n\nAs for the Wisdom who is called "the barren," she is the mother of the angels. And the companion of the Lord Mary Magdalene. Jesus loved her more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often on her mouth. \n\nLogically and realistically they could have been married and had a child/children. He came here to walk as a man, it was not then and it is not now  a sin to be married, engage in intercourse, and have a child.\n\nLogically and realistically he could have been totally divine, felt all the worst mankind had to offer, and very little of the joy. which is really what he was sent here to do, die for our sin.\n\nHopefully, we will see all the truth in heaven.
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Should You Believe in the Trinity? \n\nWhat Does the Bible Say About God and Jesus?  \n \n\n\nIF PEOPLE were to read the Bible from cover to cover without any preconceived idea of a Trinity, would they arrive at such a concept on their own? Not at all. \n\nWhat comes through very clearly to an impartial reader is that God alone is the Almighty, the Creator, separate and distinct from anyone else, and that Jesus, even in his prehuman existence, is also separate and distinct, a created being, subordinate to God. \n\nGod Is One, Not Three\n \n \n\n\nTHE Bible teaching that God is one is called monotheism. And L. L. Paine, professor of ecclesiastical history, indicates that monotheism in its purest form does not allow for a Trinity: "The Old Testament is strictly monotheistic. God is a single personal being. The idea that a trinity is to be found there . . . is utterly without foundation." \n\nWas there any change from monotheism after Jesus came to the earth? Paine answers: "On this point there is no break between the Old Testament and the New. The monotheistic tradition is continued. Jesus was a Jew, trained by Jewish parents in the Old Testament scriptures. His teaching was Jewish to the core; a new gospel indeed, but not a new theology. . . . And he accepted as his own belief the great text of Jewish monotheism: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one God.'" \n\nThose words are found at Deuteronomy 6:4. The Catholic New Jerusalem Bible (NJB) here reads: "Listen, Israel: Yahweh our God is the one, the only Yahweh."* In the grammar of that verse, the word "one" has no plural modifiers to suggest that it means anything but one individual. \n\nThe Christian apostle Paul did not indicate any change in the nature of God either, even after Jesus came to the earth. He wrote: "God is only one."—Galatians 3:20; see also 1 Corinthians 8:4-6. \n\nThousands of times throughout the Bible, God is spoken of as one person. When he speaks, it is as one undivided individual. The Bible could not be any clearer on this. As God states: "I am Jehovah. That is my name; and to no one else shall I give my own glory." (Isaiah 42:8) "I am Yahweh your God . . . You shall have no gods except me." (Italics ours.)—Exodus 20:2, 3, JB. \n\nWhy would all the God-inspired Bible writers speak of God as one person if he were actually three persons? What purpose would that serve, except to mislead people? Surely, if God were composed of three persons, he would have had his Bible writers make it abundantly clear so that there could be no doubt about it. At least the writers of the Christian Greek Scriptures who had personal contact with God's own Son would have done so. But they did not. \n\nInstead, what the Bible writers did make abundantly clear is that God is one Person—a unique, unpartitioned Being who has no equal: "I am Jehovah, and there is no one else. With the exception of me there is no God." (Isaiah 45:5) "You, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth."—Psalm 83:18. \n\nNot a Plural God\n \n \n\n\nJESUS called God "the only true God." (John 17:3) Never did he refer to God as a deity of plural persons. That is why nowhere in the Bible is anyone but Jehovah called Almighty. Otherwise, it voids the meaning of the word "almighty." Neither Jesus nor the holy spirit is ever called that, for Jehovah alone is supreme. At Genesis 17:1 he declares: "I am God Almighty." And Exodus 18:11 says: "Jehovah is greater than all the other gods." \n\nIn the Hebrew Scriptures, the word ´eloh'ah (god) has two plural forms, namely, ´elo·him' (gods) and ´elo·heh' (gods of). These plural forms generally refer to Jehovah, in which case they are translated in the singular as "God." Do these plural forms indicate a Trinity? No, they do not. In A Dictionary of the Bible, William
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I did, and many other people with me. I learned about the Holy Trinity. The Father is love, mercy and compassion. The Son is the path to the Father. Nobody goes to the Father except through the Son. The Holy Spirit is wisdom.
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Wow!! you sound sincere, so I think I am going to answer this, even though I prefer not to go into the religious section. I also studied the bible and continue to do so. The concept of the trinity is not scriptural, and its origin is based in false worship. If you would like further in depth explanations as to it origin, feel free to email me.