is Jesus Christ God or a God in a God family?
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JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD
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Without a doubt, you have often heard the claim that Jesus is God, the second person in the "Holy Trinity". However, the very Bible which is used as a basis for knowledge about Jesus and as the basis for doctrine within Christianity clearly belies this claim. We urge you to consult your own Bible and verify that the following conclusions are not drawn out of context: \n\n1. God is All Knowing... but Jesus was not.\n\nWhen speaking of the Day of Judgment, Jesus clearly gave evidence of a limitation on his knowledge when he said, "but of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the son, but the Father." (Mark 13:32 and Matt 24:36) But God knows all. His knowledge is without any limitations. That Jesus, of his own admission, did not know when the Day of Judgment would be, is clear proof that Jesus is not all-knowing, and that Jesus is therefore not God.\n\n2. God is All-Powerful... but Jesus was not.\n\nWhile Jesus performed many miracles, he himself admitted that the power he had was not his own, but derived from God. He said, "Verily I say unto you, the Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do..." (John 5:19) Again he said, "I can of mine own self do nothing: As I hear I judge, and my judgment is just because I seek not mine own will but the will of the Father which has sent me." (John 5:30) But God is not only all-powerful, He is also the source of all power and authority. That Jesus, of his own admission, could do nothing on his own is clear proof that Jesus is not all-powerful, and that therefore Jesus is not God.\n\n3. God does not have a God... but Jesus did have a God.\n\nGod is the ultimate judge and refuge for all, and He does not call upon nor pray to any others. But Jesus acknowledged that there was one whom he worshipped and to whom he prayed when he said, "I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God." (John 20:17) He is also reported to have cried out while on the cross, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt 27:46) If Jesus were God, then couldn't this be read "Myself, myself, why hast thou forsaken me?" Would that not be pure nonsense? When Jesus prayed the Lord's prayer (Luke 11:2-4) was he praying to himself? When in the garden of Gethsemane he prayed, "O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: Nevertheless, not as I will but as thou wilt." (Matt 26:36-39) Was Jesus praying to himself? That Jesus, of his own admission, and by his own actions, acknowledged, worshipped and prayed to another being as God, is clear proof that Jesus himself is not God.\n\n4. According to the Bible, God is invisible to humans... but Jesus was flesh and blood.\n\nWhile thousands saw Jesus and heard his voice, Jesus himself said that this could not be done with God when he said, " No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18) "Ye have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His shape." (John 5:37) He also said in John 4:24, "God is a spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." That Jesus would say that no one had seen or heard God ant any time, while his followers both saw and heard him, is clear proof that Jesus was not God.\n\n5. No one is greater than God and no one can direct Him... but Jesus acknowledged someone greater than himself whose will was distinct from his own.\n\nPerhaps the clearest indication we have that Jesus and God are not equal, and therefore not one and the same, come again from the mouth of Jesus himself who said in John 14:28, "My Father is greater than I." When someone referred to him as a "good master" in Luke 18:19, Jesus responded, "Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God..." Further more, Jesus drew clear distinctions between himself and God when he said, "I proceeded forth and cam
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The ASKER wants arguments. Yes, this is a good question to really PROVE or DISPROVE a belief. Here is another argument AGAINST:\n\nPrem1: The Bible says that there are many gods, but only one true God the Father. ( 1Corinth 8:5,6; Psl 82:1 )\n\nPrem 2: JEHOVAH is the Almighty God. He is the God of gods. (Ex 6:3; Deut 10:17, King James of 1611 )\n\nPrem 3: Jesus is a god (or God). But he himself admitted that the Father is greater than he; that there are things Jesus can not do. (John 1:1; 5:30; Mat 20:20-23; 24:36,etc )\n \nCONCLUSION: Therefore, although there are many gods as the Bible says, these gods are of lesser power or might compared to Almighty God, JEHOVAH. Further, although Jesus is a god (or God to some) he has Limited powers or authority as he himself admitted.\n\nNote please re. 1John 5:7: "...these three are one" is a GLOSS--or a mischievous insertion--according to some Biblical scholars. That is why in some revised King James Version, these words are omitted. In some translations you won't find these words.\n\nTo the unbiased reader: \nJesus himself said: 'you must love God with all your MINDS...”  Judge for your self whether the Trinity is really a Biblical teaching, or just men's tradition to invalidate God's words.
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GOD (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)
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God is God no matter what. He's the Supreme Being in the universe. He's omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, all-good, and eternal. Nothing changes the person of God.\n\nWhether God is Lord in one's life is up to the individual. They can choose not to acknowledge Him as Lord. In fact, they can choose not to acknowledge him at all. That doesn't change the fact that He is God, but it means that He is not Lord over their lives. One day, though, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
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Jesus is God. Christians who say otherwise either do not know the fundamentals of the faith, are apostate, or are heretics. The Apostle's and Nicene Creeds both affirm this doctrine, and the biblical evidence is overwhelming.\n\nJesus said of Himself that He was God. He applied the name of God, "I AM," to Himself in several passages. Here's a few examples: Matthew 14:27, Mark 6:50, Mark 13:6, Luke 21:8, John 4:26, John 6:20, John 8:24, 28, 58, and John 13:19. (Some English translations have mistranslated the words "I am" to "It is I," or "I am He.")\n\nJesus received worship, which is reserved only for God:\n\n"Then the men in the boat began to worship Jesus, saying, "You certainly are the Son of God!" (Matthew 14:33)\n\n"Suddenly Jesus met them and said, "Greetings!" They went up to him, took hold of his feet, and worshiped him." (Matthew 28:9)\n\n"They worshiped him and returned to Jerusalem with great joy." (Luke 24:52)\n\n"He said, "Lord, I do believe," and worshiped him." (John 9:38)\n\nFurther, the god of Muhammad is not the Father of Jesus. The Qur'an states rather clearly, "Proclaim: Allah is One. Allah is Eternal. He neither begets nor was begotten." (Surah 112:1-4)\n\nIn Christianity, we believe that Jesus was begotten. (John 1:14) And we believe Jesus to be God.\n\nNow, we have a conundrum. Either Islam is right, and Jesus is not God, nor begotten; or Christianity is right, and Jesus is God, and is begotten. We can't have it both ways. Islam will never hold to a belief that Jesus is God. And Christians will not accept that Jesus is not God, and is not begotten. Therefore, they do not worship the same God.\n\nOther "gods" fall short as well.  There is no other true god than the One of the Holy Bible found in the Old and New Testaments.
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They're the same God. God does not change. The change is in interpretation of the Bible. Oh, and Jesus isn't God, he is God's son. When has a son ever been equal to his father? Never.
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The title 'god' or 'God' can be applied to Jesus. It's like the title Atty. (Psalm 82:1-6) But Jesus is not God Almighty. He admits to the following:\n1. He is a worshipper of the Almighty God, Jehovah. (John 20:17 ?)\n2.His Father is greater than he is. (John 14:28)\n3. He does not have the authority to appoint who will sit at his right hand. Only his Father has that authority. (Matthew 20:20-23)\n\nHe was seen by many. Whereas no one can see God and live. (Exodus 33:20?)\n\nThrow away the concept of a Trinity. It confuses many. Further, it is pagan in origin and therefor unclean in God's eyes.\n\nhave a good day.
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(kurter21 said the same thing I did... only shorter, so if you don't feel like reading my long post, read his short post)\n\nWell, there is a Father in Heaven, who is our God.  We are all his children.\n\nThen there is Jesus Christ, who is the Son of God in the flesh, meaning that God was his "biological" father.  He is a god.\n\nSome people believe that we are Jesus' children.  In a spiritual sense, that is true, but in a literal sense, it is not.  We are his "children" in a spiritual sense, because he has taken care of us (through his teachings, the Atonement, the Crucifixion, etc...)\n\nAs far as the THIRD part of it... there is also the Holy Ghost (also commonly known as the Holy Spirit).  The Holy Spirit is not the LITERAL spirit of God or of Christ, but he is a part of the "Godhead" as well.\n\nSo the Godhead consists of three separate beings, the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Ghost.\n\nAs far as believing in the worship of only ONE God, we worship the Father.  We do not worship Jesus Christ.  I know that sounds kind of funny... but here goes...  we follow his teachings, and follow in his footsteps, but when we pray, we pray to the Father in the name of Jesus Christ, and not to Jesus Christ himself.\n\nHope that makes sense.  Let me know if it doesn't, and I can see if I can clarify it.
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My God is YHWH, the Almighty.  He is the Father of Abraham, and Jesus is His Son.  I believe this because Jesus claimed to be God, and He proved His claim by coming back to life 3 days after being crucified.
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God is one God in three parts, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. They are all every bit God but able to function separately. Don't worry about the De Vinci Code, it fiction.
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I believe in God. As in the holy spirit, our father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
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You ask a really good question. Jesus, God and the Holy spirit and all one in the same...I know...confusing...its one of those things that just require faith to believe in. But Jesus however, is still the Son of God. But when Jesus became man, he left that behind and was seperated from God. So he was praying to God in the garden, God his father.
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Jesus was Never God the Father or God the Son, Nor did he or his Disciples say that he was God! Rather he was the SON OF God!. Some questions to reason on: \n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord."\n\nThe words "our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him. Jesus didn't say "Your God". He said "our God" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD.\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in John 20:17 Jesus said I ascend to my God and your God? This tells us that Jesus and we have a common GOD. John also tells us that the Only True God, Yahweh, is not only our God and Father, but He is also the God and Father of our Messiah, Yahoshua.\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in John 14:28 Jesus said "My Father (GOD) is greater than I"?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in Luke 23:46 Jesus said "Father (GOD), into thy hands I commend my spirit"?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 19:16 Jesus said "Why call me good, there is none good but One,\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 26:39 Jesus begged his GOD to have mercy on him and to pass the cup to death (kill Jesus in another words) before Jesus goes through the pain of crucifixion?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in John 18:38 he didn't reply when he was asked about the truth?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 24:36 Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in Isaiah 11:2-3 GOD had put the spirit of fearing GOD in Jesus?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:31 Jesus told his followers that if he (Jesus) bears witness of himself, then his record is not true?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:30 Jesus told his followers that he can't do a single thing of his own initiative?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:32 Jesus told his followers that they have never seen GOD at anytime nor ever heard his voice?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 26:39 Jesus fell on his face and prayed to his GOD?\n\nThe "God" (theos in Greek) title literally with Jesus in Isiah 9:6 and they don't take it literally for the rest of the prophets and people who were called Gods?\n\nKing David in Psalm 45:3 Note: The only unique title given to GOD in the Bible that was not given to others at all are Jehovah, GOD, and GOD LORD. "God", "Most Mighty" and "Almighty One" are titles that were given to Jesus, other Prophets and to Satan himself in the Bible.\n\nIf Jesus is also equal to his father in terms of God-ship, why at John 17:1, 3 in prayer to his father (God) that he refers to his father as the “ONLY true God”. John tells us according to the Savior Himself that the Father is the 'Only True God,' NOT the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit but the Father ALONE is the Only True God.\n\nFinally, John ends his gospel; by telling us the reason for his writing it. So that we might believe that Jesus is part of a mystery god made up of 2 or 3 different beings? NO, not at all, but rather the reason he wrote his gospel was to prove to us that Jesus is the Messiah (Christ) \nJohn 20:30 Many other signs therefore did Jesus in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book:  John 20:31 but these are written, that ye may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God; and that believing ye may have life in his name.
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How Are God and Christ “One”?\n\n“I AND the Father are one.” (John 10:30) Those words, uttered by Jesus Christ, enraged his fellow countrymen. They considered his statement to be blasphemous and were ready to stone him. (John 10:31-33) Why was this so? Had Jesus Christ claimed that he was God himself, his Father’s equal?\n\nThe context in which Jesus’ words appear in the Biblical narrative reveal what he meant. A group of Jews had encircled him, demanding that he tell them outspokenly whether he was indeed the Christ. Answering them, Jesus stated: “I have told you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name are my witness; but you do not believe, because you are no sheep of mine. The sheep that belong to me listen to my voice; I know them and they follow me. I give them eternal life; they will never be lost and no one will ever steal them from me. The Father who gave them to me is greater than anyone, and no one can steal from the Father. The Father and I are one.”—John 10:25-30, Jerusalem Bible.\n\nONENESS NOT EQUALITY\n\nClearly Jesus Christ was not claiming to be his Father’s equal. He himself stated that he acted, not in his own name, but in the ‘name of his Father.’ He recognized his Father’s superior position and authority, acknowledging that the “sheep” had been given to him by his Father. He pointedly said that ‘the Father is greater than anyone.’ At the same time the Father and the Son are “one” in purpose respecting the salvation of the “sheep.” That is, both are equally concerned about the “sheep,” not allowing anyone to snatch them out of their hand.\n\nThat Jesus referred—not to an equality of godship—but to a oneness of purpose and action is confirmed by his prayer recorded at John chapter 17. Jesus said: “I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word. They have now come to know that all the things you gave me are from you . . . I make request, not concerning the world, but concerning those you have given me; because they are yours, and all my things are yours and yours are mine . . . Also, I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world and I am coming to you. Holy Father, watch over them on account of your own name which you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are.”—John 17:6-11.\n\nNote that the thoughts voiced by Jesus in this prayer are similar to his words recorded at John chapter 10. In chapter 17, Jesus again acknowledged that his disciples, his “sheep,” were given to him by the Father. So the kind of oneness referred to in both of these chapters is the same. From Jesus’ prayer we can see that Jesus and his Father are “one” in the same sense that his true followers can be “one.” (John 17:11) Obviously the faithful disciples of Jesus Christ could never become part of a triune God. However, they could be one in purpose and activity. Further proving that Jesus never claimed equality with his Father is the fact that, in his prayer, he addressed his Father as the “only true God” and spoke of himself as his Father’s “representative.”—John 17:3, 8.\n\nBut someone might object, arguing, ‘When Jesus said “I and the Father are one,” the Jews took it to mean that he was God, and Jesus did not deny this.’ But is that really the case? Why not examine the account?\n\nThe Catholic Jerusalem Bible reads: “Jesus said to them, ‘I have done many good works for you to see, works from my Father; for which of these are you stoning me?’ The Jews answered him, ‘We are not stoning you for doing a good work but for blasphemy: you are only a man and you claim to be God’. Jesus answered: ‘Is it not written in your Law: I said, you are gods? So the Law uses the word gods of those to whom the word of God was addressed, and scripture cannot be rejected. Yet you say to someone the Father h
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Jesus told us very clearly about God, and that he is REAL, many people question Jesus as the son of God, but all those miracles he performed were to prove it. so, as he is telling the truth, there is a God. You need faith.
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The book of John is one of the best resources that depicts the Father/Son relationship.  Jesus Christ gave His Father all the credit for what he spoke and what he did.  He prayed to His Father.  All of the power and authority that Jesus Christ had on earth, as well as now, in his exalted position as Lord, was given Him by God the Father, who is the Source of power.  \n\nJesus Christ never claimed to be the Most High God...ever.  Jesus Christ was called a god in several places, but in no way is ever alluded to as THE one true God, because He is not the one true God.  Jesus Christ is Lord.  \n\nPeter identified Jesus as "the Christ, the Son of the living God".  What is so hard about understanding this?  Matthew 16:16-17\n\n"...and there is none other God but ONE.\n\nFor though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many), \n\nBut, to us there is but ONE GOD, THE FATHER, of whom are all things, and we in Him...\n\nand ONE LORD JESUS, by whom are all things, and we by him.\n\nI Corinthians 9:4-6\n\nThese verses clearly tell us that God the Father is the ONE TRUE GOD, and that Jesus Christ is Lord.\n\nPolytheism reigns in mainstream Christianity via the unholy "trinity" doctrine.  Calling Jesus Christ the one true God breaks the first commandment.  \n\nMost people do not read and study scripture for themselves.  They listen to their pastor who in turn was taught the doctrines of men at the seminary he attended, thus, false doctrine is kept alive and perpetuated by the very people that call themselves "Christians".\n\nSatan has deceived the whole world.  Revelation 12:9