why do people who believe in god have to use the bible as a weapon against homosexuals?
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AS a gay and a Christian (yes, you can be oriented to both)-cannonized text has passsges that state gays will not inherit the kingdom of God. (II Corinthians) But what does that really mean? It doesnt say that they will burn in hell. Those two things are not equivalent at all. What I see in it, is that we do not have the perfect blessing of society and may not fit into all of God's sacred institutions such as having children, traditional marriage, etc. We also are not going to be appreciated in the eyes of family values (there are certain discretions others use that I must respect) However, the Bible does not say in any way that we are condemnable by that alone. To be gay is to be oriented to same-gender attraction. Gay does not equal promisciuty, infedility, debuachary (drug use, etc) in every gay person. The Bible clearly states that God judges and loves people holistically and since it is been proven that being gay is only a part of a person, than therefore it in itself does not make one destined to eternal destruction, which is what many biggots beleive.
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yes I do. I think alot of people beat people over the head with the bible. I do not think thats what God intended the bible for that use. He gave us free will for a reason.
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First of all, guys can have sex with guys without being gay.  You're only gay if you are attracted to the guys. (Which is probably true in this case)  And ANYONE who believes everything that the bible says and believes in God is a Christian.  It doesn't matter if they are serial rapists or anything, they are still Christians.  They are just really bad ones who sin a lot.  I guess if these PRIESTS ask for forgiveness, they will be forgiven.  (<<even though the bible says that this is a sin and the people must be killed, even though OOPS!  Killing is a sin, too, so I kinda think God is somewhat of a hippocrite, but whatever.  Besides my actual opinions, the first six sentences are actual facts, so think on them.
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People do not use God's Word to back up their points because it would be impossible. Too often their human thoughts are diametrically opposed to God's thoughts.\n\n(2 Timothy 4:3,4) For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths.
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Well, mainly because it goes against what the Bible is purported to teach, but even that is not quite correct. \n\nGays and Lesbians...I just call it the Gay community...are different...anything that is different...people look at in another way.\n\nPersonally, I believe that we are all just people.....and all of our lifestyles are different in some way.....so it doesn't matter.\n\nI have worked with Gays, have Gay friends, have a Gay step-son and a Gay cousin.  These people are open, friendly, most are very well adjusted and know where they are going in life.  They have little excess emotional baggage like heterosexuals do, since they disposed of this by coming out.   They are my most trusted friends and I respect them as they respect me.\n\nI have worked with Gays who are not well adjusted, and have counseled them  (my job).  We are all the same, same thots, same dreams, same responsibilities.  We all strive to be better and to live together.
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It also says to stone people to death, kill them, slavery, all kinds of nasty things.  See the following link.  Yet people CHOSE to pull the one about homosexuality out and use it to be intolerant.  Here are some examples with the verses...\n\nGenesis\n\n"God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good." He purposefully designed a system that ensures the suffering and death of all his creatures, parasite and host, predator and prey. 1:31 \n\nGod likes Abel's dead animals better than Cain's fruits and vegetables. Why? Well, no reason is given, but it probably has something to do with the amount of pain, blood, and gore involved. 4:3-5 \n\nBecause God liked Abel's animal sacrifice more than Cain's vegetables, Cain kills his brother Abel in a fit of religious jealousy. 4:8 \n\nGod is angry. He decides to destroy all humans, beasts, creeping things, fowls, and "all flesh wherein there is breath of life." He plans to drown them all. 6:7, 17 \n\nGod repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ... from off the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the innocent animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It seems God never gets his fill of tormenting animals. 7:4 \n\nGod drowns everything that breathes air. From newborn babies to koala bears -- all creatures great and small, the Lord God drowned them all. 7:21-23 \n\nNoah kills the "clean beasts" and burns their dead bodies for God. According to 7:8 this would have caused the extinction of all "clean" animals since only two of each were taken onto the ark. "And the Lord smelled a sweet savor."  8:20 \n\nTo free Lot from captivity, Abram sends an army of slaves to pursue and smite his captors. 14:14-15 \n\nGod tells Abram to kill some animals for him. The needless slaughter makes God feel better. 15:9-10 \n\nHagar conceives, making Sarai jealous. Abram tells Sarai to do to Hagar whatever she wants. "And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled." 16:6 \n\nLot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to "do unto them [his daughters] as is good in your eyes." This is the same man that is called "just" and "righteous" in 2 Pet.2:7-8. 19:7-8 \n\nGod kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining "fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone -- he spares the "just and righteous" Lot and his family. 19:24 \n\nLot's nameless wife looks back, and God turns her into a pillar of salt. 19:26 \n\nGod threatens to kill Abimelech and his people for believing Abe's lie. 20:3-7 Gen.16:5-6) and tells Abraham to 'cast out this bondwoman and her son." God commands Abraham to "hearken unto her voice." So Abraham abandons Hagar and Ishmael, casting them out into the wilderness to die. 21:10-14 \n\nGod orders Abraham to kill Isaac as a burnt offering. Abraham shows his love for God by his willingness to murder his son. But finally, just before Isaac's throat is slit, God provides a goat to kill instead. 22:2-13 \n\nAbraham shows his willingness to kill his son for God. Only any evil God would ask a father to do that; only a bad father would be willing to do it. 22:10 \n\nDinah, the daughter of Jacob, is "defiled" by a man who seems to love her dearly. Her brothers trick all of the men of the town and kill them (after first having them all circumcised), and then take their wives and children captive. 34:1-31 \n\nThe sons of Jacob trick Shechem into getting circumcised. Then they murder him, his sons, and all the males of the city, while taking their wives captive. 34:24-29 \n\n"The terror of God was upon the cities that were round about them." 35:5 \n\n"And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight o
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The dictionary is out-dated!\nThe bible was written as a historical account of that time\nby men who had their own ideas of how life should be.\nIf we did not have the bible to quote from, then what would\nour arguments against gays and lesbians be?\nOr for that matter - anyone that does not fit into the \ncategories that the bible denounces.\nYes, it is time that the laws on marriage are changed.\n\nNo one likes to be punished (biblical or otherwise)\nfor their decisions and mistakes!
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Because the human mind cannot comprehend God.\n\nBecause one needs faith in order to be able to really learn from the Bible.\n\nBecause many people are deceived and fall for the alternatives of easy, cheap Grace.
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Not at all! I back them up actually. If God wanted to promote homosexuality, then he would allow man-man woman-woman realationships, but he doesn't. He actually destroyed 2 cities (Sodom and Gomorrah) with a rain of fire because they were practising homosexuality.
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they sure seem to think so, don't they.\n\ni think one of the reasons they do is because it violates some of their own basic, christian tenets not to judge others.  you see:  they enjoy violating their own rules and sinning like crazy.  they don't care!  they're "forgiven" so they sin all they like.  they also, unfortunately, enjoy hating people.  gays are a great target, and this way, they can try to force gays to follow the very same bible-laws that they violate multiple times every day.\n\npretty neat system they've worked out for themselves, isn't it?
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Because they study the Bible as literature, and not the Word of God. This is where belief comes in. You have to believe it, and apply it.
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the attack on gays  has to do with wanting someone to demonize to attack because they are different. However anyone that attacks gays which is OT stuff should not have sideburns, should not eat ANY shellfish and follow ALL the OT laws. the same goes for those that love to demonize witches. the bible implies both karma and reincarnation but people whould rather not pay attention to any symbolic or deeper meanings instead make up thier own definition of it i.e. born again is now a sect of christianity and not a term for reincarnation.\n\nkarma is in the bible TWICE as you reap what you sow and an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth.\n\nreincarnation is also in the bible as you must be born agian and I knew you before you were born. the thing is most christians whould rather excuse it to mean some brand of fundamentalist christianity.\n\nchristians that attack gays are either\n1) insecure with themselves\n2)having marital problems and want someone to blame\n3) too intellecually lazy to think about what they are doing\n4) have been bullied in the past and want an outlet to vent
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Just make sure you understand that God loves the individual, however, their behavior and life choice will lead them into bondage that will harden their hearts to God's eternal salvation. Because Homosexuality involves so much emotional investment, it is almost impossible to tell the them the truth without being labeled with very harsh epithets. \n\nThe homosexual has just as much access to salvation and forgiveness that the murder or even average person. The only difference is that most murderers know that they have done something wrong, and most homosexuals see their behavior as acceptible. So who is going to gain forgiveness? One who knows they are a sinner and pleads for mercy, or one who argues with God for acceptance?
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I believe you're right. I personally don't believe in the Bible because I don't believe the writings came straight from God himself. One place that speaks about homosexuality is the book of Leviticus, which is, in my opinion, a large compiling of BS. Another section that speaks out against homosexuality (supposedly) is the story of the Sodomites. However, I don't believe that story revolvs around rape and not homosexuality.\n\nI do know there's another one that blatantly says homosexuality is wrong, but because I don't believe the Bible is truth, I don't believe it's correct.\n\nIF homosexuality is a sin, then who is to say it's worse than any other sins?\n\nGod does love gay people, and that's it. Who's to say they know anything more about "Judgmenet Day" than anyone else? If someone's gay and someone else lies, which one gets the worse punishment? Nobody knows, and anyone who says they know are fooling themselves.
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I don't agree with casting "per-verbial stones" at anyone.  We are not the ones that are given the right to judge.  But I can tell you why homosexuality is looked down upon if someone truly wishes to serve God.  Homosexuality is condemned in the Bible.  In both the Hebrew (old) and Greek (new) scriptures, homosexuality is condemned.  In 1 Cor. 6:9, 10, homosexuals are lumped in with fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, theives, and extortioners as ones that will not inherit God's kingdom.  \n\nWhen reading the Bible, you have to take the whole book into account.  You have to be willing to accept God's thinking on all matters.  He created us; he knows what's best for us; he instituted the marriage arrangement.  God has never condoned same-sex relationships, and since God is the same from time indefinite to time indefinite, we can be sure he still feels the same as he did when he had the Bible penned.
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Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God hates gays and lesbians. There are a couple of passages that  plainly speak let uagainst homosexuality, however.\nThe famous story of Sodom and Gomorrah is told in Genesis 18 and 19. The cities were burned because of lustfulness of every type, including homosexuality. As you read you discover that the men of Sodom were so corrupt they wanted to have sex not with Lot's daughters, but with his guests, who happened to be two holy angels in the guise of men!\nThe men even tried to break the door down before the angels made them blind.\nRomans 1 speaks strongly against certain sins, including this one: "Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature (themselves) more than the Creator.... FOR THIS CAUSE God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet."\nLest we think God is unfair, we read right at the start of Romans chapter 2 that Christians are not to judge sinners, since they were sinners too! You see, a Christian, in part, is a sinner who has repented of sin and been forgiven for it. ("Repentance" connotes "turning away from" sin.)\n\nRegarding abortion: Sometimes the Bible states things explicitly, sometimes it gives us a guiding principle. The main debate about whether abortion is murder has to do with whether the "fetus" is a person. Here is what Psalm 139 (one of my favorites) says: "For thou didst form my inward parts; Thou didst weave me in my mother's womb. I will give thanks to Thee, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made...My frame was not hidden from Thee, When I was made in secret, And skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth. Thine eyes have seen my UNFORMED substance; And in Thy book they were all written, The days that were ordained for me, When as yet there was not one of them."\nThe whole Psalm is about how God sees and understands us whereever we are. The last verse quoted says that there is a plan for each person even before s/he is born. Wow!\nGod does not hate sinners. That is what Jesus came to show us. That is why He came to take the punishment for ALL our sins. The biblical view of people is not a hateful one. And God does not play favorites-see Romans 2:11.This is what He tells Christians: "Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. And do not pass judgment and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you shall not be condemned; pardon, and you will be pardoned." Luke 6:36-37\nIs it a hateful thing to let a small child know that fire will hurt him? Neither is it hateful to call sin "sin" if a person wants to know.\nI hope all this helps. Blessings. Buttercup\nThese topics are important and I'm happy to discuss them further with anyone through messaging here or on 360.
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The Bible is a product of the church, written to retain social control over the masses that believe in it. 'God's Will' seems to favour the bourgeoisie ideology not the humble proletariat  who had nothing. Religion is so mixed up now and along with money is the only other reason why so many wars are breaking out. I think that your sexuality is biologically determined - In your genetics before you are born. Believe in what you choose too, but always remember to stay true to who you are.