What do you think of marches of Mexicans for illegal immigrants?
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If there are illegals at the rallies they should be arrested. I do not think illegals should have any rights other than humane treatment while they are under arrest.
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i dont think they should protest. i remember when they started protesting a few weeks back they were waving the MEXICAN flag if you can believe it!! LOL
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I like it.  Needs to apply to illegal Mexicans too.\nIt is way cheaper than it is now.
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Well, it would seem that at least Hazleton, PA got it right. They are implementing a new law that would revoke a businesses license for employing illegal immigrants. Seems like San Bernadino, the largest county in the country, is following suit and looking to employ the same laws as well.\n\nAs for your original question "Do you think we should do nothing about this illegal immigration problem?". I have to point out a few key points in order to give a logical, reasonable and efficient, non-emotional based answer. (I know you're a female, so bear with me on the non-emotional portion of things. j/k) \n\n“The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty first, the ‘love of soft living’ and the get-rich-quick-theory of life”---Teddy Roosevelt\n\n"Love of soft living" - with the use of illegal immigrants for cheap part time labor, the middle to upper class Americans and the thinking involved is "it's good for me and it employs needy people as well". This creates a dillusion of Master-servant and is self-destructive at the same time. Remember "All power corrupts". \n\nJudging from what is known throughout history, it is only a matter of time before the servants get tired of thier roles. With that we can logically deduct that eventually the servant will try and overthrow the master. Unfortunately, this is the role of the illegal to the middle/upper class American\n\nWatching the March, April and May immigrant marches, it wasn't too hard to see the heavy resentment, the entitlement and loud accusations of fat lazy Americans, you need us to care for you, proof that the master-servant, nearly symbiotic relationship is a daily occurrence and not a healthy one either.\n\nIn answer to your original question: it's a matter of realizing the long term consequences of unbridled migration. Eventually things will come to an uproar as they already are in the streets with protests and such. Give it time, if we do nothing we will eventually be heading towards a "Civil War II". Sounds crazy right now, but when a little thought is put into it, I think most can recognize the possibility.
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I agree.Maybe instead of marching in the streets they should have all showed up at INS and asked for permanent resident status or citizenship.Now that would have been a demonstration.
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Well I See It Like This\nIf Their Passion Were As STRONG On Their OWN Government As Theyre Making It On The US Government ....\nAnd If They ORGANIZED As Well In Mexico As Well As Theyre Organizing Here....\nAnd MILLIONS Of Mexican CITIZENS Marched In THEIR STREETS WAVING THEIR FLAG....\nThe Mexican Government Would Get Of Their A**ES And Take Notice.....They Would Have To RESPOND, And Some May Argue That Theyd Get SHOT At Or Put In PRISON,\nBut In Reality People,(Think About It)Can The Mexican Govt.\nWASTE Or IMPRISON That Many People ????\nThe TRUTH Of The Matter Is That The Mexican Government Would HAVE TO MAKE REFORMATIONS ....Cause If They DIDNT\n \n(Now Stay With Me Here Folks)\n\nThe US GOVERNMENT Would Step In(Now..In The Backs Of Our Minds, Dont We ALL REALLY KNOW THAT??)\n\nThe REASON The US Government Is So Fast To KEEP THE ILLEGAL ALIENS Here Is(Are We All READY???)\n\nDRUMROLL PLEASE\n\nLimitless ILLEGAL Immigration Is the Modern-Day Equivalent of SLAVERY, benefiting only the Conservative Corporate Elites.\n\nOK .....EVERYBODY GET IT NOW???
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Anyone here a member of a union.  The jobs they do, these are not jobs that no americans will do, busboy, valet, waiter, etc.  Maybe Americans want to be paid more but hey, when you have a minimum wage, that's to be expected.  \n\nPersonally, I know a lot of international people.  I hear a lot about their problems getting into this country.  To me, illegal immigration is like cutting ahead of all these great people.  Is that fair, hells no, life in mexico isn't great, but the people in mexico can't complain about anything.  They no nothing about hard life.  If we should allow illegal immigration on the basis of them being refugees, then there are millions in Africa who we should bring in first.  There are two ways of doing it, don't let anyone in illegally, or let everyone in.  And I think we would know what happens if we just opened the floodgates.    \n\nIf the people protesting really wanted to be here, wouldn't they have an american flag, not a mexican one.  I'm really sick of the racial preservation.  You want to be proud to be mexican, go be proud in mexico, because if you want to say you're proud to be mexico and you're illegal, you're saying that you're proud you grew up from such filth that you couldn't help but leave(but you still love being from there).
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I completely agree.  We embrace those immigrants who came here respecting our laws, and rejoice when they become American citizens.  And I'll die defending them.  But what I see at those rallies is a bunch of people who skirted the law and now want preferential treatment over the LEGAL immigrants.  And I don't see people proud to be Americans.  I see people wanting voting rights, so they can take what they want, and tailor the American southwest to be more accomodating for Mexico.\n\nI won't let that happen.
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Reactionary laws?  That's friggen hysterical.  It's already against the law to enter this country without going through the proper channels, hence the term (as un-PC as it is) ILLEGAL ALIEN.  \n\nNow, as far as counter protests and marches, we have several things going against us.  \n1. We don't have a close knit network to get the word out.  There's a website here and there but there's no coordination between sites.  \n2.  Concerns about being viewed as racist.  So what if the issue isn't about race?  So what if it's about people, regardless of color, who are INVADING our country?  The media and the Hispanic/Latino leadership in this country will try to smear ANYONE who organizes a widescale protest.  \n3.  Fear of being retaliated against.  \n4.  Lastly, I believe a lot of Americans feel overwhelmed by the enormity of the problem and frustrated that the American government isn't enforcing its own laws.\n\nI say we treat illegal aliens the way they treat them in their own countries.  For example, here are a few of Mexico's laws.\n\n"Only Mexicans by birth or naturalization and Mexican companies have the right to acquire ownership of lands, waters, and their appurtenances, or to obtain concessions for the exploitation of mines or of waters. The State may grant the same right to foreigners, provided they agree before the Ministry of Foreign Relations to consider themselves as nationals in respect to such property, and bind themselves not to invoke the protection of their governments in matters relating thereunto; under penalty, in case of noncompliance with this agreement, of forfeiture of the property acquired to the Nation. Under no circumstances may foreigners acquire direct ownership of lands or waters within a zone of one hundred kilometers along the frontiers and of fifty kilometers along the shores of the country." \n\nArticle 32: "Mexicans shall have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable. In time of peace no foreigner can serve in the Army nor in the police or public security forces."\n\n Foreign-born, naturalized Mexican citizens may not become federal lawmakers (Article 55), cabinet secretaries (Article 91) or supreme court justices (Article 95). \n\nAccording to Article 33, "the Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action."\n\nNon-citizens are forbidden to participate in demonstrations or express opinions in public about domestic politics.  Article 9 states, "only citizens of the Republic may do so to take part in the political affairs of the country."  Article 33 is unambiguous: "Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country."\n\n*In response to the answer below:\n\nIt's not a complex issue.\nThey ARE criminals.  They broke the laws of this nation by entering without going through the proper channels.  Many of them use stolen or forged identies and social security cards, which means they are breaking MORE laws.\nBusinesses do not need their labor.  Businesses need to stop undermining the foundation of this county and discontinue their law breaking activities.  Who the hell do you think did the work before the last 12 million illegals came here?  Do you think Americans would sit and starve if illegals didn't pick fruits and vegetables?  I guarantee you they would NOT starve.\nJefferson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt are spinning in their graves over the invasion of this country and the government's lack of action to stop the influx.\n\nTheodore Roosevelt Advocates Americanism, 1915\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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I'm against; but i do realize that a small portion should be given amnesty,(Speaking of only thousands, not millions) The rest should be deported back to their native land and some should be given a temporary VISA on probation to see if it would work for them to be citizens, If not, they go back too, But only people who honestly turn themselves in should be given such opportunities.\n\nAn idealist view would be to say " they're all illegal. GET THEM OUT". But in reality, that wouldn't happen.\nI just think we should stop anymore from coming but deal with the people we already have.\n\nSometimes you just have to meet in the middle.
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Truthfully, I feel that Illegal immigrants especially the ones who have been here many years. Have families, jobs (As bad s some may be.) These illegal immigrants HAVE ALREADY PAID THEIR DUES!!! \n\nYes, they came here illegally and that is wrong. But our country wasn't exactly founded on Honesty. In fact in alot of ways, we play CUT-THROAT!!! \n\nThe illegal immigrants are a great part of this country and I do not believe this country could survive without them, because they do the crap jobs that AMERICAN's don't want. \n\nI am talking jobs well below, "Would You Like Fries With That?" Most American's Stick up their Noses at, Mcdonalds. Why are you fighing for the job to become a migrant farm worker or clean someone's toliet. \n\n\nif we took the illegal immigrants out of our country and I DO MEAN ALL OF THEM....This country could not run!!!! \n\nThe Arabs own 6percent of America. If you took them out of the picture, this country could not run.....\n\nBecause, those berries you may love won't be picked, those green bell peppers won't be eaten, because they won't be picked and so on......\n\nSo we couldn't meet the supply in demand. \n\nThat is why I say that these people have paid their dues and continue to everyday......\n\nI think deportation should be reserved for people who come here and can't adapt to the way of life here. If you've been here ten years and the only eglish word you know and understand is, HI!!! You should go home.....\n\n\nWhich alot of people do cross our borders with preconcieved thoughts and realize our way of life isn't so great afterall. They feel that they can't go back. These people should be deported...\n\n\nTroublemakers should be deported. \n\nAlot who cross the borders do just fine in America and those who contribute to our broad land whether it'd be picking berries or cleaning toliets should be given citizenship, because they are productive members of society.  \n\nEven more on the up and up alot of these, "illegal" immigrants who have older children that were bornin this country, run resturants, Bodegas and much more. Some make a very livable wage or better with family effort. \n\nSo "Illegal" immigrants if they can adapt to American life should be made citizens and should be allowed to stay. \n\nOne of my neighbor's here in Hawaii was an "Illegal" immigrant in 1962 (I think she crossed the boarder.) I should would miss her Mexian home-cooking and Hot Tamales. If they deported her, after 40 something years of living in America. She speaks english, she's married now so I don't think she is illegal anymore. She has children and has built a life here. It'd be a disappointment to see people like her go!\n\nOnce they are citizens, they pay, TAXES!!!!
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Immigrants are great, but these are ILLEGAL ALIENS.  It looks to me like a great opportunity for INS to find all these lawbreakers in one place and initiate arrests.  With our being told which companies HAD to shut down completely or partially, that the Attorney General, Homeland Security, or whomever is responsible for fining companies who do hire illegal aliens, really just have a list now that they can follow. \n\nThe protest offended, but didn't really affect me, or the town in which I live.  The following things bothered me:\na.  these protests were for ILLEGAL ALIENS, NOT regular immigrants.  Their PR machine was great in blurring the lines here.\n\nb.  The Mexican flags were still very prominent.\n\nc.  I was soooo tired of seeing all the posters written in Spanish!!!!!!  And the signs that were translated to English were often very critical of this counry that they claim to love so much.\n\nd.  One of the organizers, last name Rodriguez I think, was on some TV shows the day before.  He made very negative comments about the U.S. in general.  It seemed he was leading up to the one comment that made me wonder about the REAL agenda.....he said, paraphrasing, that the southern part of the U.S. was STOLEN from Mexico, and that the people just wanted to reclaim what was rightfully theirs.  Okay, we did fight and confiscate land way back in our early history......but wasn't just about every country formed by gaining land from somebody??  \n\ne.  The whole thing would have been so much less significant, had our media simply refused to give these demonstrations wall to wall media coverage!!\n\nf.  Do these illegal aliens have the constitutional right to assemble like this?  This is just a question I wondered about.......they are not citizens.\n\ng.  IF these folks are really protesting for rights, better conditions, etc., well, I can't help but be curious as to why they don't just demonstrate in their own countries where conditions must be worse.  Couldn't they use this energy to focus on problems at home?\n\nh.  I can't help but wonder WHEN the LEGAL CITIZENS of the U.S. will step up to the plate, care enough to organize as efficiently as these folks, and take our voices and opinions to the streets, all the way to Washington D.C.\n\nWhew, got some of that off my chest!  I understand the plight of these illegal aliens, and this IS a country of immigrants, but it's also a county of laws.  What do you think would happen to us if thousands of U.S. citizens decided to sneak into Mexico, Colombia, Venzuela, Russia, China, etc., and march on their capitols & make demands for rights while waving American flags and speaking mainly English?  How about trying that in Cuba or Iran?  \n\nWelcome to all immigrants, just do it LEGALLY!  We do have a process in place for that.  Many of us feel that we and our country are being greatly disrespected by the ILLEGAL ALIENS. (I am ever so tired of the term "undocumented workers"..............does that mean that we citizens can drive around freely with no drivers' licenses, and simply be "undocumented drivers"?  Political correctness can get way out of hand.\n\nI just about forgot one other thing that burns me, and that's the so-called Spanish version of our National Anthem!  This is not a translation, the lyrics are totally different.  This is the United States.  We speak English.  A common language is necessary for assimilation.  And our National Anthem should be sung in English!  What's next, translating our Constitution, the Pledge of Allegience, etc??
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How Do I Feel About The Protests??\nIll TELL You How I Feel\n\nThe media estimates that almost ONE MILLION ILLEGAL FOREIGN MIGRANTS and their advocates Militantly Marched in the streets of America UNDER THE FLAG OF MEXICO. Their agenda is for our FEDERAL LAWS TO BE IGNORED , and their Criminal Trespass into these sovereign United States to be rewarded with unlimited benefits that include the rights of American Citizenship! \n\nAs these large mobs of foreigners marched proudly UNDER THE FLAG OF A FOREIGN COUNTRY to demand the right to live and prosper in the United States, they claimed that the issue is immigration. But their own actions reveal what is in fact a determined effort to FORCE Americans to ACCEPT LARGE FOREIGN COLONIES in our midst, and to pay handsomely for the privilege of doing so. We have both the RIGHT and the moral MORAL OBLIGATION to DEFEND AMERICA , and JUST SAY NO !!!\n\nIt REALLY BURNS My *** That A Large Portion Of The Latin Community (Citizens And ILLEGAL ALIENS ALIKE) Are MARCHING On Our Cities Carrying The FLAG Of ANOTHER NATION , And DEMANDING The Rights Of AMERICAN Citizens... THAT Is The ICING On The Cake \n\nFolks .. You WANT To Be Treated Like AMERICANS Yet You Will Protest Under A FOREIGN FLAG ... And You Expect ME To RALLY With You??? And SUPPORT Your Cause??? \n\nI Think NOT.. Perhaps You Should Realize Exactly What It Is That You Are Trying To Accomplish... Because To ME It Looks Like An INVASION From A Foreign Army .. \n\nWe cannot allow illegals to remain in this country because it sends the very clear message to anyone from any country: Go ahead and enter the U.S. illegally. Nothing will be done to you. The stupid Americans will pay to feed you, clothe you, educate your kids and pay for your medical care while they themselves are forced to go without because they can't afford health insurance because their tax dollars are paying for you! Ha, Ha! Go ahead and enter the U.S. illegally If you're a terrorist, no problem, go ahead and build your cells, blow up buildings and schools. Nothing will happen because American politicians are too cowardly to repel this invasion and deport the millions of illegals aready here while the illegals rub their lawlessness in our faces.\n\nYou Wish To Become AMERICANS With The RIGHTS Of AMERICANS .. \nYet Many Of You REFUSE To SPEAK My/Our LANGUAGE \nAnd REFUSE To Honor My/Our Flag \nWell I REFUSE To Let YOU Continue To Burden My Pocket \nAnd The Pockets Of My "PROUD TO BE AMERICAN" BROTHERS \nOf ANY DESCENT\n\nYou Call It INTOLERANCE???Call It What YOU Wanna Call It-\nIf It Makes YOU Feel Better-\nCall It RACISM,\nIf It Makes YOU Feel Better\nCall Me A NAZI\nIf It Makes YOU Feel Better\nCall It WHATHEF**KEVERYOU Wanna Call It-\nAs Long As It Makes YOU Feel Better\n\nWhats Gonna Make ME Feel Better???\n\nI Pledge ALLEGIENCE To The FLAG\nOf The UNITED STATES Of AMERICA\n\nI KNOW Im Not A Racist\nI KNOW Im Not A Nazi\nI KNOW Im A PROUD AMERICAN CITIZEN \nAnd A HARDWORKING TAXPAYER\nAnd A MILITARY VETERAN\nAnd NOTHING YOU Call ME Is Gonna Change That\n\nYou DISGRACE My NATION???-\nYou DISGRACE My FLAG???-\nNO SOUP FOR YOU!!!\n\nThe LATIN AMERICAN COMMUNITY Brought This Upon Themselves\n\nPUSH HR 4437 AS IS-NO AMNESTY\n\nDEPORT ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS UPON DISCOVERY\n\nHasta La Vista BAYBEE--LeEmigre Is ON THE WAY
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That is what they are hoping for. This is an invasion.\n\nIllegals draw welfare by stealing people's social security numbers and identities. That means there are a lot of people being directly hurt by these people as well. Innocent people are having their credit ratings ruined, having IRS problems, and social security problems. If someone who has had their social security number stolen gets married, if either spouse dies or become disabled then they can be denied their benefits. \n\nMy family moved to the US before WWII. Those of my family that didn't make it over got killed by the death camps. Our family assimilated to the American culture. We didn't expect the Americans to change to suit us. The illegal immigrants from Mexico are not civilized like that.\n\nThey not only changed the National Anthem to Spanish, they changed the words. They already burn our flag and hang our flag upside down. They waved the Mexican flag during a lot of their protests. Some schools have stopped hanging the American flag and forbidden students from wearing clothes with any part of the American flag on their clothing all to keep from offending the Mexicans. It's nothing short of an attack of our country, not only by the illegal aliens, but those who seek to appease them. \n\nI am tired of the stereotype that Americans wouldn't do the work that illegals do. Illegals do all kinds of jobs for less than minimum wage which drives the wages down for U.S. citizens. Construction jobs are an example. There are lots of illegals doing construction jobs that Americans used to do because the companies can keep more of the profits if they pay less for the workers. All that does is make companies wealthier and Americans poorer. Illegals are stealing jobs that Americans have done for years. \n\nIf you go to a country and refuse to assimilate, continuing to speak your own language then you are really not an immigrant -- you're a colonist ... and that's what the Mexicans are doing, they're colonizing the American Southwest as part of their "reconquista" Read about mecha in the link I provided and you'll see what the Mexicans real agenda is.\n\nhttp://www.americanpatrol.com/MECHA/MEChAindex.html\n\nMost Mexicans believe the Southwestern US rightfully belongs to Mexico; and most believe they should have the right to enter the US without government permission. –Zogby Poll (June 2002)\n\n~~~\n\nHalf of all Mexicans – over 50 million – would move to the US if given the opportunity. –Pew Hispanic Center (August 2005)\n\n~~~\n\n84% of Americans view Mexicans favorably.\n\nBut only 36% of Mexicans view Americans favorably.\n-only 26% of Mexicans say Americans are hard-working.\n-only 16% say Americans are honest.\n-and 73% say Americans are racist.\n\n-Zogby Poll (March 2006)\n\n~~~\n\nThe prohibitive cost of providing illegals with free healthcare has shut down more than 60 hospitals in California since 1993; many more are on the verge of closing. –Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (Spring 2005)\n\n~~~\n\nIllegals enter this country without health screening. Consequently, epidemic diseases from our past – polio, tuberculosis, plague, leprosy – are on the rise.\n\n~~~\n\nIllegals consume $69 billion in social services annually. –Rep. Russell Pearce (AZ)\n\n~~~\n\nAccording to the US Census, 96% of the increase in public school enrollment is due to immigration.\n\n~~~\n\nThe Federation for American Immigration Reform estimates that children of illegal immigrants cost public schools $28.6 billion annually.\n\n~~~\n\nIllegal immigrant labor depresses wages for American citizens by $200 billion a year. –Lou Dobbs, US News & World Report (01/31/05)\n\n~~~\n\nThe cost of illegal immigration to the American taxpayer is $55,000 per illegal. –Center for Immigration Studies (July 2001)\n\n~~~\n\nAccording to the US DEA, 92% of the cocaine sold in the US comes in through Mexico (2004) as does 65% of meth and
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Yes.  It will help to associate the illegal alien cause with Mexico, and show how this is deeper than just the illegals.  We all need to examine the backgrounds of the leaders of the pro-illegals, and observe some of the racist, pro-secessionist rhetoric coming from these groups.  The cause most think they support is rights for illegals, but the ACTUAL cause of the leaders is socialistic and secessionistic.
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i agree with you. the illegals are not citizens and should not be able to protest for anything. they should earn their rights by being legal so that they can pay taxes like everyone else.
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Who told you that? Some legal Mexicans are protesting right along with the illegals while some just forgot where they came from. Question. What do you have against Mexicans?