How are we going to deal with illegal immigrants? How do we make it fairly justify and humane?
467428
The key word here is ILLEGAL, that makes it simple ship them back to where ever they came from.  If they want to be here legally and are willing to do what every other American citizen has to do, like pay taxes, then they can come in and serve just like everyone else.
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I have this brilliant idea to eliminate the problems associated with illegal immigrants:\n\n1. They use services but don't pay taxes\n2. They are exploitable by employers, who threaten them with deportation, so they have to work for very low wages\n\nSolution to both problems:\n\nJust make them legal. Then no one can complain about "illegal" immigrants. They will be legal. They will pay taxes and support the services they use, such as public schools, public hospitals, etc.\n\nAnyone who is not a known criminal and comes here to work and pay taxes should be allowed to do so.
541216
If you want to stop hiring of illegals, simply place the CEOs of a few high-profile companies in jail for hiring illegal aliens. There have to be line workers or janitors without papers in almost any major corporation in America.\n\nAnd while you're at, put their neighbors in jail for hiring illegal nannies and gardeners. Let's see how Muffy and Trevor like the big house.
1135314
First remove the government entitlements that illegals are now receiving from the US like welfare,health care and free schooling then make every company or Establishment that hires illegals pay a heavy fine and jail time,militarize the borders,and any illegal caught be sent back the same day,most illegals in this country will leave on their own if they can't find a job since they really have no loyalty to this country anyway
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Dont Worry\nThey'll Get What's Comin To Them\n\nYou Just Gotta Look On The Other Side Of That Coin\n\nWhen The ILLEGAL ALIENS Flock To Them By The Millions\n(A Reaction To Ordinances In Hazleton, \nAnd Farmers Branch, For Instance)\n\nAnd THEY (Sanctuaries) Find Themselves \nIncredibly Overwhelmed By The Massive Numbers \nOf Out Of Work ILLEGAL ALIENS\n\nWith No Funds To Support Them\nNot Enough Housing To Shelter Them\nNot Enough Jobs To Employ Them\nAnd Not Enough Resources To Sustain Them ??\n\nWhat Do You Think Will Happen ? \n\n\nThe city of Maywood - \na 1.2-square-mile town \nwith a population of just over 28,000\n96 percent hispanic\nMore Than 60 Percent ILLEGAL ALIENS\neight miles south of Los Angeles - \na pocket for illegal aliens, \nlauded by immigrant advocates \nand decried by detractors.\n\nA "Sanctuary City"\n\nI Wonder How A 1.2-square-mile town \nwith a population of just over 28,000\nWould React To A Swarm \nOf 50,000 Or 100,000 People \nSeeking Refuge From US Immigration Laws\n\nAs More And More Cities, Counties And States \nBegin To Add Legislature And Local Ordinances \nRefusing Housing And Employment To ILLEGAL ALIENS\nThose ILLEGAL ALIENS Will MIGRATE \nTo Known Safe Havens\n\n.
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Discover problem: illegal immigration cross over US boarders.\n\nSolution: Hire 6000 patrol officers to guard a 1500-mile border. Build a 500-mile chain link fence.\n\nProblem not solved. Charities now helping illegal immigrants cross over.\n\nNew solution: Increase to 14000 patrol officers. Offer 4-star holding-cells with welcome party to immigrants that make it over. Raise budget for war in Iraq. Hold party for other laws piggy-backing the immigration laws.\n\nProblem still not solved.\n\nNew solution: Legalize red-neck hunting of illegal immigrants.\n\nProblem solved.
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This is an easy answer, Arrest those that do the hiring of illegals. Put them in jail, fine the company's enough so it is not worth it to hire illegals at substandard wage. That fixes everything. \n\nNO JOB = NO WORK = NO MONEY = NO REASON TO COME HERE AND  NO REASON TO STAY.  Really simple.
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1. Pardon the 2 agents that shot the drug dealer and got put in jail.\n2. Start rounding up all illegals and make them build the wall before deportation\n3. drop 100,000 armed convicts in Iraq with carte blanche to kill and rape until the country behaves\n4. Close Gitmo, put all the prisoners into sealand containers and sink them in the Atlantic
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1. Protect the US first. Cover the borders and ports to deny entry to those who intend to do us harm, and materials which can be used to harm us within the framework of the law.\n\nIt's not that simple, you don't necessarily know who's going to 'do you harm' and don't want to unfairly discriminate against innocent people.\n\n2. Identify and rebuild co-operation and trust with countries and groups who abhor terrorism and the taking of innocent life.\n\nI agree.\n\n3. Build information databases on known terrorists, and those who aid them.\n\nI believe that's already being done.\n\n4. Share that information with those who we reasonably feel abide by international law, and invite them to add information or dispute information they feel is wrong.\n\nYeah, could do. Do countries not do that already? Most countries would not be of any help in the matter.\n\n5. Make binding agreements with them to act jointly or independently as necessary on information we both agree is correct.\n\nOk, but in what way would you 'act'? All known terrorists are monitored and there is a little a country where the terrorist is not residing can do.
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Hey, your english is not very good.  Are you an immigrant? No, I'm not going to "over shop" my whole life...and I also know it's highly improbably that 12 million people will be deported.  It's just not possible.  But we can sure as heck do our best to stop letting people in for awhile...and deport SOME of them.  I say start with the ones who don't pay taxes or put much money into our economy.  \n\nTell me, 20 guys who carpool to work in the same car, and share one house...how much are they really putting back in to the economy???  Not much...won't miss 'em.
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You know there are probably a lot of terrorists arleady here.  What's done is done. But that does not mean that we should not TRY to take measures to keep them out, or that we should give up all our laws and throw open our hands and borders to any and everyone.  I mean if you knew that your house was infested with termites, would you just let them destroy your house? or would you do something about it? I dont believe that illegal immigrants are termites.  Just trying to make a point.  Just because the problem already exists, does not mean that you dont take measure to try to protect yourself.\n\nAnd I think the whip should be cracked. This issue is not a matter of free speech, because our rights are reserved for the "legal" citizens of this country. I think it is not very smart to be doing something illegal, and then making it known that you are doing it. \n\nPeople who are here illegally are breaking the law. There are steps that can be taken to be here legally and they should take them. It may be a difficult process, but as we all know Freedom isn't free, and if you want it bad enough, you should be willing to do what it takes to get it through legal means.\n\nI mean, the protests of illegal people in this country bothers me. I mean what would happen if child molesters decided to protest the laws against child molesting. We would all say, that's crazy! How can they be "in the wrong" and demand the laws be changed so that they can do what they want. I don't think it is right. The best way to resolve the problem is to make it prohibitive for illegal people to be here, and beneficial for legal immigrants to be here. Our laws are there for a reason, America is not a free for all...and if you want to be a part of its citizenry, then you must follow the laws like the rest of the citizens. \n\nWhat gets me is all these people using emotionalism and saying that "human rights" are being violated. How is it a violation of human rights to tell people who entered this country illegally, got jobs, and basically are squatters and cheaters that at long last, YOU MUST DO THE RIGHT THING! \n\nI think they do not understand what the definition of "Human Rights" is. They are not being treated inhumanely, they are actually fortunate. Because they are being treated as any other American Citizen who breaks the law. ACTUALLY they are being treated BETTER than any other American Citizen who breaks the law. How many U.S. citizens do you know, can break the law, admit to it, protest about it....and not be punished unless or until congress decides to re-write the law in an effort to be as fair to THEM as possible. Come on! Just because they took low paying jobs and work hard at them, does not mean that they are free to break the law. And if we allow them to do it, then the country they are so eager to live in will cease to be the country it is supposed to be. \n\nIf what illegal immigrants want to do is to work, raise families, and live in a free society. Then, follow the LEGAL process to do so, learn the language, and the culture, pay your taxes, and become an American the right way!\n\nDon't break the law and then scream victim! You are not victims. The tax payers who support social programs are victims, the people who migrate to this country and become legal citizens are victims. Illegal immigrants are people who made a "CHOICE" to do the WRONG thing, and think they should be excused or rewarded for that choice. I say WAKE UP, take responsibility for your actions, and GET LEGAL or leave.
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This article should be a helpful starting point.\nhttp://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
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1) Learn to write in complete sentences and spell. It makes you look more intelligent which, in turn, will make people give a crap about what you have to say. \n\n2) Most Americans do not have a problem with immigrants. We realize that we are descendants of immigrants. In fact, we welcome immigrants for rejuvenating the country. \n\n3) Regardless of the reason, people who come to this country without following the proper channels have committed a CRIME. We do not look kindly upon criminals. There are methods for immigrating legally and thousands and thousands of people have gone through those channels, waiting YEARS, and paying the proper fees. Why are some people better than those who follow the rules? Perhaps the immigration procedures are a bit stringent, but nevertheless, they are the LAW. \n\n4) You are obviously still in school and do not yet pay taxes. Once you do, you'll realize that most of us work until mid-April SOLELY to pay our taxes. Then we see that our hard-earned tax dollars are being spent on jailing illegals (20% of the Cali prison system is made up of illegals), educating their children, providing social services for them since they are not educated, do not speak English, and do not make enough money here, and providing FREE health care (something our own citizens do not enjoy). Between police, fire, health, teachers, and government workers, we spend too much time and money dealing wtih these people who are here ILLEGALLY. We as a country cannot even provide for our own, why should we have to do so for others? Why are these illegals elevated to a higher status than our own? And why do YOU think that these illegals are entitled to get anything from ME?
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get an education and stop bitching.\n\nOpen the borders for all that want to come here.
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I have lived exactly what you are describing.  I began 'preaching' about this problem about 15 years ago and no one would listen. I then lived in California and worked for Social Services. You can just imagine what I experienced there.  I have since moved back to my home midwestern state and now I see it moving in here as well.  It is an invasion that people and legislators have ignored and avoided doing anything about for far too long and now we are faced with a crisis.  Do I think that amnesty will have them respecting our laws?  OF COURSE NOT!  They came here illegally. That, in itself, makes them lawbreakers, if not criminals..  none of whom respect anything or anybody.
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Guys...the way this is being described (even in this forum) reminds me of Nazi Germany. Language like "round 'em up". We have to find a safe way for people to extend their visas, get visas and travel between the border if they want to. As someone mentioned, border jumping is scary. And it is not like these are bad or immoral people. They just want to work--build a life for themselves and their familiy at any cost. That is very American if you ask me. Very nobel. Lets do this the right way. If an employer hires an illegal worker we need to really hit them hard. People wouldn't come and stay if they couldn't support themselves. Lets target the places of employment.
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Nope, the points of argument are all yours. Do you have a possible solution? Maybe putting some Americans who have lived for generations on welfare to work doing the jobs the illegals came for.? \n\nI say just wait, the next great depression is coming and the situation will resolve itself. No work is too hard or dirty when your family is starving.