has the illegal immigrant debacle unified white and black Americans even more so than 9/11?
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It seems odd to me that the only ones demonstrating are the illegals.  Where is everyone else?  I have been writing and calling my represetnatives about this but it is curious why there are NO organized marches AGAINST illegals.\n\nCould it possibly be that the illegal immigrant marches are secretly organized by the Bush administration to give him ammunition for his idiotic Guest Worker program?  Hummm.
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It's called 'white guilt'. Ken Hamblin, the radio personality, had a lot to say on this one, and there's a bit of truth to it...we've had decades of school teachers and politicians/other public figures who've walked around basically saying that 'whites are bad, this that, the other', and that we're supposed to pay for all this stuff for 'minorities' etc. Basically, the whole thing's a Big Shakedown. \n\nThe most racist man I've ever met in my life was big n black, and then I met his mexican cousin. Some people are assholes, got a major chip on their shoulder, and it's not the 'white man's fault.\n\nThe best fix for all of this is full, 100% border enforcement. Most of the people that come to america are doing so to seek honest work. It's those that aren't that have given everybody else a bad name, and frankly it's time to update the way the whole thing's going. I hate to throw the 9/11 card, but it has its' place in this debate, too, if ya don't know where people are from, or what they're doing in your country, how do you know they're not out there, plottin' something? We've got our own home-grown kooks, nuts, and freaks, we don't need imports...if all people were honest, hard-working(as the pro-immigration people keep trying to hype it), and good to their neighbors, there'd be no issue. Since that's not the case, there needs to be some immigration enforcement done. Balkanized communities that wall themselves in and don't speak a lick of english are unacceptable to most americans, we don't want to see mini-states that are led and funded by people from other countries, no matter how much revenue's involved. There is no payoff worthy of sacrificing That Which Is America, and americans won't stand by and see the country parceled off. If that means one less commercial food processing company, so be it. If that means your neighbor being slapped with a $500 fine for being too lazy to mow her own damn grass, so be it. The illegal alien thing needs to STOP. Mexico can tend the welfare and future of their own citizens, if they can't, for some reason, with their fairly robust economy, then they need reforms so that they CAN take care of their people. The population of Mexico is 1/3 that of the United States. They can 'si, se puede' in Mexico City, see what it gets em...
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absolutely, they both (aliens and minorities) play on the sympathies of the rest of the country. theres a reason the u.s. Was the most powerful country in the world for so long and it wasnt because we were listening to illegals and minorities whine, it was because the red blooded american citizens ( black yellow purple and green white orange and "other") did what needed to be done to get the job done. now the aclu naacp and others continue to blame " the man " for  everything thats wrong now, the very same "man" who made this country happen and its a shame. the illegals should go home, and the whining minorities should apologize for undermining the rules our forefathers laid out with good intention, instead of abusing the system every which way possible.
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I think everyone is being too hard on you quite honestly. It's a good question and I understand the gist of what you are asking. More and more the government is becoming accepting of illegal immigrants. As you may know, this has been in the news alot lately. Illegal immigrants can come from any country including the middle east. I think we should be cracking down on illegal immigrants more...especially after 911 but unfortunately it seems to be going the other way. We seem to be letting more of them in and looking the other way. Why? Illegal Aliens are often times cheap labor for many companies in the USA. \n\nI don't think the main concern is that they may gather information because as many people have pointed out, they can do that on the Internet from anywhere in the world. I think the main concern is that terrorists will come in an act on the threats they've been making as they did on 911. \n\nI'm no expert but that is my take on it and I hope that helped a bit.
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I recently read this article in the Chicago Sun Times.  It is both enlightening and scary.  I am living overseas temporarily, but I often wonder what I'll return to when I do come home.  The US is not what it used to be.  Here's the article:\n\nNo easy answers on immigration conundrum \nApril 9, 2006 \nBY MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST  \n \nHere's my immigration "compromise": We need to regularize the situation of the 298 million non-undocumented residents of the United States. Right now, we get a lousy deal compared with the 15 million fine upstanding members of the Undocumented American community. I think the 298 million of us in the overdocumented segment of the population should get the chance to be undocumented. You know when President Bush talks about all those undocumented people "living in the shadows"? Doesn't that sound kinda nice? Living in the shadows, no government agencies harassing you for taxes and numbers and paperwork. \nGo ahead, try it. In Michelle Malkin's book Invasion, she recounts the tale of two fellows who in August 2001 pulled into a 7-Eleven parking lot in Falls Church, Va., in search of fake ID from the illegal-alien assistance network that hangs around there. Luis Martinez-Flores, who'd been living here illegally since 1994, took them along to the local DMV, supplied them with a fake address and falsely certified they lived there. The very next day, the two guys returned with two pals of their own, and used their own brand-new state ID on which the ink was not yet dry to obtain in turn brand-new state ID for their buddies. A couple of weeks later, all four of them used their Virginia ID to board American Airlines Flight 77 at Dulles Airport and plowed it into the Pentagon. \nThink about that. From undocumented illegal alien in the 7-Eleven parking lot to lawful resident of the State of Virginia in just a couple of hours. Wow. Say what you like about Luis Martinez-Flores, but he runs one efficient operation. \nBy comparison, say you've got two kids under 5, and you'd like to bring over a nice English nanny to look after them. Name of Mary Poppins. Good references, impeccable character. If you apply now, there's a sporting chance the process may be completed before your children's children are in college. \nGiven that the new immigration "compromise" bill retrospectively approves all the millions of people who've been through the super-efficient Luis Martinez-Flores immigration system but without doing anything to improve the sclerotic U.S. government immigration system, maybe it would be better just to subcontract the entire operation to Senor Martinez-Flores and his colleagues. It would certainly be cheaper. The extensive Undocumented American support network manages to run it out of the back of the car from a parking lot without a lot of air-conditioned offices full of lifetime employees on government pensions, and given that the net result is exactly the same people who'd be living here anyway, why not go with the lowball bid? Legal immigrants to the United States can only envy the swift efficient service Messrs. Hani Hanjour and Khalid Almihdhar received outside that 7-Eleven. \nAll developed countries have immigration issues, but few conduct the entire debate as disingenuously as America does: The president himself has contributed a whole barrelful of weaselly platitudes, beginning with his line that "family values don't stop at the Rio Grande." True. They don't stop at the 49th parallel either. Or the Atlantic shore. Or the Pacific. So where do family values stop? At the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services. If you're an American and you marry a Canadian or Belgian or Fijian, the U.S. government can take years to process what's supposed to be a non-discretionary immigration application, in the course of which your spouse will be dependent on various transitional-status forms like
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Yes.  Many people wrongfully equate illegal immigration with people of Mexican ancestry.  This is very unfair because we don't assume the same of people who are from other countries.  There are more Mexican immigrants here illegally than any other nationality, but that's only due to our proximity to Mexico, and they are by no means the only people who are here "without papers".
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Absolutly being invaded.  We have illegal immigrants from all over the world......but only 1 group who is burning our flag, trying to change our language, talking of "reclaiming" their land.  Only one group demanding rights for "their" people that our own citizens don't have.  One group that has systematicly planned and infiltrated our government with interests for "their" people.  One group who is anti-angelo and English.  There's not one peep from anyone else.  The Polish don't have special interest groups crying "racism" when they are being deported.  We import and are way to dependant on China, but you don't see the Chinese flag flying over an upside-down American flag because we are dependant on them now.  We have American students under fire for not agreeing with Bush, but yet there's Latino college professors teaching about overthrowing our country and killing the white American and nothing is done.  There's one group "LaRazza" that feel "the race", "their" race is the dominate one.  No....the sob stories don't cut it.  Poor just wanting to work doesn't cut it either.  I agree all Latinos aren't a part of this anymore than all whites went with the KKK or all Germans went with Hitlers views.  But it doesn't take 100% participation for the damage to be done.  It takes a dynamic person and a bunch of radical followers ,in which there seem to be plenty.  All beleiving they are fully justified in their hate for something that happened ions ago.  I just wish these people would stand up and stop hiding behind their mamas skirts and using Illegal immigration and bilingual education which means "must speak Spanish", and "racism".  Yes....there is an invasion going on and a problem with illegal immigration and national security and too much power in business and a host of seperate issues in the midst of obvious problems.\n\nThe other thing to note....if it was just the mythical Atzlan they were trying to reconquor.....it's done.  But they are in Chicago, New York and all states that have high electoral votes.  All sanctuary cities.  It's been street by street, town by town,  it's just "too" planned.  See what big businesses back it and what politicians they back.  It is far from just wanting a job and the rest.  Here in Chicago there are thousands and thousands of homeless.  There is no job here that an American won't do.  But there's a huge population of Latino legal and illegal immigrants.  The latino politicians aren't supporting the law or fighting poverty of anyone other than Latino.  They aren't fighting for bi-lingual Polish-English education where there are more Polish immigrants.  Or Chinese or Arabic.  Only Spanish.  Just doesn't wash.
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I'm not sure if its a pattern, but Its definitely NOT NEW. Every country back in the past 300 or so years had at least one immigration issue stemming from the difficulty of a few immigrants to assimilate, and unfortunately due to typical human insecurity and prejudice this expands into racism and hate. The Jews in Europe are one of the more famous cases of this (yes there was hate of jews even before but it expanded considerably in the last 200-300 years), The US also had it with Germans and Asians in the pre-World War I/II years. In the end though in most of the cases the affected countries end up surviving the so-called "invasion".\n\nIts the same today... a few scum Hispanics defy US culture, then certain "Americans" take this to mean ALL Hispanics defy the USA. In Europe some radical Muslims make trouble and this results into a general prejudice against Muslims. However since this is today (not 50 or even 200 years ago) and the circumstances are different with new ideas like multiculturalism (which ironically increases ethnocentrism in some quarters)... so no one really knows 100% what the outcome of these issues are.
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The Southern Poverty Law Center and the ALCU are anti \nAmerican groups not unlike La Raza.All their agendas are the same.The downfall of this nation and our American way of life.I wouldn't believe any of the reports given by any of theses groups.They are liars and distort the truth to their own advantage.Its well know that the "spin" they put on things are never real facts.I am in favor of whatever it takes to stop the illegal aliens from finding comfort and aid here in this nation after entering it illegally.\nThere are laws Federal felony laws against aiding and abetting the illegal aliens.Perhaps those laws should also be enforced to the letter of the law.\nI don't want to see legal Americans of any nationality harassed,but if you are facilitating the criminal acts of the illegal alien then you are guilty also.\n\nThe federal government has reported that Georgia had the fastest-growing illegal immigrant population in the country. The number more than doubled from an estimated 220,000 in 2000 to 470,000 last year. This year, state lawmakers passed some of the nation's toughest measures targeting illegal immigrants
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On March 17, 2006, an estimated 25,000 illegals from Ireland marched boldly in the St. Patrick's Day Parade in NY without fear of any enforcement of our immigration laws. I told my friends at the time: this unchecked in-your-face, "we demand respect" display by illegals will embolden them to demand they be given a free pass and when that doesn't happen, it will reach the point of violence.\n\n      On March 24, 2006, hundreds of high school students in LA walked out of their classrooms to protest the newest piece of completely unnecessary immigration legislation by the incompetent fools in Congress. Within hours 15,000 criminals (illegals) were marching in Phoenix and roughly 10,000 in Georgia. On March 25, 2006, waving their Mexican flags chanting the same worn out "racist" garbage and demanding their "rights" 50,000 of these criminals marched in Denver, thousands in North Carolina and here in \nSacramento. All because the House of Representatives has passed legislation that would make it a felony to be in the U.S. illegally, impose new penalties on employers who hire illegal immigrants and erect fences along one-third of the U.S.-Mexican border. The counterfeit Senate is to begin \ntheir bickering on March 28, 2006.\n\nOur economy will not fail by rounding up illegals and deporting them. \nOn ABC This Week, March 26, 2006, weasel Arlen Specter, hauled out the other big lie, "We have created a need for these workers who will do the work Americans won't." \n\nBull. Once we begin to deport these criminals, Americans \nwill step in and do the jobs - jobs that have been taken away from them because employers have turned a blind eye to the law and are looking for cheap labor. As for Arlen Specter: why is he still sitting on his backside doing nothing while banks in this country are knowingly and aggressively violating federal law by giving home mortgages to criminals (illegals). Congress and the Department of Justice are simply ignoring this outrage, yet Specter blathers on the stupid tube that these 15 million plus criminals should be given a free pass. \n\nTom Tancredo was the other guest on the aforementioned show and he said it right: We don't need any new laws, enforce the immigration laws that are already on the books.\n\n This IS what's coming right to your neighborhood: One of these days in the near future, these millions of illegals are going to become berserkers. It is the intention of Mexicans to "reclaim" the four border states and merge them back with Mexico and they are willing to do it with violence. These 15 million plus illegals will go on a rampage the minute any serious round up and deportation begins, but it must get done for the very surivival \nof our republic, our standard of living and our culture. Reasonable immigration of less than 100,000 per year is more than appropriate and it worked well for a very long time.\n\n      We cannot allow illegals to remain in this country because it sends the very clear message to anyone from any country: Go ahead and enter the U.S. illegally. Nothing will be done to you. The stupid Americans will pay to feed you, clothe you, educate your kids and pay for your medical care while they themselves are forced to go without because they can't afford health insurance because their tax dollars are paying for you! Ha, Ha! Go ahead and enter the U.S. illegally if you're a terrorist, no problem, go \nahead and build your cells, blow up buildings and schools. Nothing will happen because American politicians are too cowardly to repel this invasion and deport the millions of illegals aready here while the illegals rub their \nlawlessness in our faces.\n\nSent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:35 PM \n\nSubject: VIDEO: HISPANICS ADMIT THEY ARE ENGAGED IN "CIVIL WAR" WITHIN THE UNITED STATES\n\nSource: \n\nImmigration Watchdog \n\nhttp://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/...\n\nThey openly state they have &quot
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I would say so.... there wont be a total security, so i pray it's not where i am or i'm going to be.\nreal terrorist are the ones that don't look like them. just like the 2001 attacts...they came to the US legally, studied in american schools. etc...
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I don't know what to think about the whole thing anymore...I've seen very little facts, just a lot of biased or opinionated stuff.  Newspapers, the media its all biased.\n\nanyways in regards to your question...Some people don't think that way because the majority of people in the US are white. Could you pick a European out of a crowd in New York? (accent or language aside) I know I couldn't. So most people don't really notice. Anyways its still not fair...and I hate to think that they're probably some people of color that are legal and getting asked by stupid people for their green card or something.
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first its not just whites who are angry, AMERICANS are. second all we want is that immigrants take the steps necessary to be legal and for every one to pay taxes, as of right now the biggest welfare state in the USA is Mexico....
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Immigration is not an issue but ILLEGAL immigration certainly is... I agree with what you say but what you failed to say is these illegal aliens are more dangerous to middle-class Americans that al qaeda could ever be...the difference is blowing up a few thousand or killing the future of a whole country & it's citizens!
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I think the walk outs were a justification for everyone who is sick and tired of the White Man controling everthing.... lol  Just playing.  Im in germany right now but if i was in San Jose California, I would most definetly walk with my friends, because in the end, a color is just that, a color.  I see these people are people who could really make America what its supposed to be. A GREAT MELTING POT. Just think If America after the Revolutionary War barred immigrants from entering.  The great build up would of never occured. The word freedom would of never existed, and by golly ;-) I wouldnt be here today. I have the great pleasure of being mixed with black, White and 2 types of American indian.  if anything, i have more of a say so than any white person! I think we should use Europe as an example as a long term goal. Open Borders! By the way, What nationaility are you Kittee???
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I wonder if the original native Americans (Red Injuns as they were called) had a say in the matter when the whites from across the ocean invaded their country and all but exterminated them.\n\nMost US citizens, dear person are also a descendant of immigrants yourself, I'm sure, as are most of the white and black American folks replying to you, unless they are of Native American descent (which I am sure you would not be proud to proclaim, if you were). Even the guys who came over on the Mayfair, they initiated the unjustness by being the harbingers of terror that culminated in the annihilation of native Americans\n\nI wonder when the Caucasian will ever get over the white 'massa' superiority complex?\n\n\nAmerica has been drawing people from all over the world, right from the days of it's discovery as a land with the fabled pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. Give it some more time, you'll end up with an exodus of people, as is happening among the immigrants from India which is gaining from the Brain Gain as opposed to the earlier brain drain.\n\nI remember when my cousin migrated to the US in the seventies, people had similar complaints about the Indians.\n\nTh reverse is happening now, a number of western countries have their top people insisting on an India stint, and the Indians, well they wanna come back to their roots.
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No. America wants to push out illegal immigrants. There's a major difference.