Why is the Judeo-Christian god a liar?
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He didn't say he'd kill them on the spot.  He said they'd surely die.  Before they ate the fruit, they hadn't been guilty of sin or deserving of death.
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I'm not sure he's lying.  I think he may just be that confused.  Given the number of people I've seen on here who are addamently convinced that the fact that they don't understand evolution means it's false, I wouldn't be surprised if he genuinely believes he's found a way to prove atheism is wrong.  I'm don't think it's so much a matter of malice (of course there are exceptions), but rather of ignorance.\n\n_____\nClearpigeon and askeutychus, there's a logical fallacy in there.  It's the part where you say that knowledge of God requires knowledge of everything.  That isn't true.  I know that objects fall towards the Earth, but I don't know all of physics.  Or maybe it only applies to thinks you know to be false.  In that case, I know that 1 + 1 doesn't equal 3 without having knowledge of all mathematics.\n\n_________\n>>>how can you be against something that you don't believe in?\n\nBy not speaking Greek.  In ENGLISH atheist means someone who believes that God does not exist.  There are a lot of words in English that are derived from words in other languages but to not take on the literal meaning of their roots.  It doesn't make sense to define an English word by its literal meaning in Ancient Greek and then expect that defintion to apply to the modern usage of the word.  And even if you did insist on translating it literally, it would be "without god," not "against god."  I think it's quite simple to be without something that doesn't exist.
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because most people believe that it isn't myth, but fact. the ancient Greeks didn't consider their gods to be myth...etc. Although, with all fairness, the Judeo-Christian "god" is just as much myth as anything else.
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It's very simple, they didn't believe in them, nor know about them.\n\nThe beginning of "Christianity" in the Torah, aka Old testament, was just 6,000 years old.\n\nWay after the dinosaurs were extinct.\n\nThe reason why they don't mention a lot of animals like the kangaroo, toucan and so on; is that the "Religion" was a localized one to the Middle East, around present day Israel and mentioned events that happened there.\n\nThe Great Flood was perhaps a localized event that happened due to glacial melting and the shift of the earths axis.\n\nMost things in the Torah would be full of inaccuracies.\n\nI think you shouldn't take things literally, like the 7 days story; because it's evident that there was no one around to make that "Testament".\n\nChristianity is, really, more based upon the Charisma of Christ. It's greatness lies in the fact that Christ taught us to seek the Truth and not be blinded by lies.
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I do beleive in a creator/God, but the Jesus part is questionable, don't matter if you're a Christian, Jew, or Muslim!!! People have to open their mind I realize certain things are out of place about his story. I believe it was put there to worship man instead of god, to have more control over people, to divide and conquer and the list goes on, it so many. Because the truth is NO ONE knows how God really looks or etc!!!
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The New American Standard Bible reads, "the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given concerning His Son."   The NASB capitalizes "Him."  So, the non-believer is not calling Christians liars, and he is not making himself a liar, but he is calling God a liar because he has not believed God's testimony.  God is the one saying, "this is My Son."  So, if anyone doesn't believe this, then he is calling God a liar.\n\nOn the other hand, the believer has God's testimony within himself, so he will never doubt that Jesus is the Son of God.\n\nSee Matthew Henry's Commentary
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lol, the christian god is too human sounding to be a god in the first place. \nit wouldn't surprise me though, that god would pretend to be satan when he does bad things.\n\nbut they've obviously thought about this more than some christians have and recognized some sobering trends in the bible that don't coincide with the whole "god is only good" dogma they teach in sunday school.
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For both of your questions:  God does not exist as he is told of in the Bible.  That is merely a manifestation of mankind's idiocy in a textual form.  Really, somehting as drastic as salvation cannot be attained simply by asking forgiveness.  God exists as a force of nature, and ironically enough, was worshipped under the name Shaitan (Satan) before the Christains came and torched everyone who thought differently than they!  It's historical, YOU CAN LOOK IT UP!  REMEMBER THE INQUISITIONS!\n\nAnd upon your question on god hating anyone?  It is in your Bible.  I swear, I know more about the bible than christians do.  ...Jacob whom I have loved...Esau who I have hated...read your f****** holy book.
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Romans 3:4: "God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar"\n\nIf it doesn't mesh with what's in the Bible, it's wrong. Period.
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He said those who claim to be Jews. To answer this we have to define what a Jew is. When the scripture was written the word Jew meant Judah. Just Judah a member of the tribe of Judah only and not all the tribes of Israel. So what he is saying is their will be those who claim to be Jews(Judahies thus Israelites) and are not but do lie. So if you are not a seed of Judah and call yourself a Jew then your a liar. This is who it's talking about, it also say HE will make them the synagogues of Satan, b/c of their false claims.
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If you are asking whether i believe that he exists, then the definite answer is yes, but if your answer is whether i believe in him, then my answer is no. \n\nWhy should i? The bible calls him the father of liars, he also a murderer; (John.8:44) \n\n"You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it."\n\nHe is the chief inventor of lies, even when he tells you its day, be careful, it might just be night. I wouldn't believe him even if he had 10 million dollars and he told me he would give me 10 dollars
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Christians are blinded to the Truth. In their mind, there is a distinction between Jews & Christians.\nDo you see their answers? Jesus never started Catholicism; man did. And, what about the 10 Commandments, which inculdes honoring the Sabbath? \nChristians are SO clueless!
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Why believe in a god that:\nMurders his children. (great flood)\nMurders his children's children (babies in Egypt)\nImpregnates a married woman (Mary)\nHas an illegitimate child. (JC)\nAnd to top it off, that conceited jerk says to worship him? (1st commandment)\n\nI would say your "idiot" claim is misguided.
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An argument could be made -- a yin yang comparison.  Even from a more traditional Judaeo-Christian perspective, since god is omnipresent, couldn't he be both god and satan?  A method of introducing free will, perhaps.
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In the Old Testament he was reactive.  That's cause the people brought that out in him.  In modern times he is not reactive, but neither is he proactive; he's taken a wait-and-see attitude.  Why do you ask?  Are you an atheist looking for an argument?
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You just said that "the bible can't be proved as fact" and you derived "the bible is a lie" from that, in the law of deductive logic and reasoning, you can't derive the latter from your previous phrase.  \n\nTruth be told, you can't prove the whole Bible at all, either way, no matter what.  You can prove the history that the Bible has supplied.  You have to have faith and the Holy Spirit to fully understand scripture, and even with these things, not everything is meant to be known.  God has a revealed will and a hidden will and we are not meant to know everything.  In fact, most of the things that have happened in the Bible have been proved fact.  The great battles in the Old Testament, the life of Jesus has even been proved by historians.  There's irrefutable evidence in support of his life, and his dying.\n\nCurtis
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Is it possible that out of over thirty false messiahs running around during the second temple era, Christians fell for a fake?\n\nJesus could not possible be the Messiah, do you even know what the Messiah is supposed to do? Why didn't he do everything?\n\nI know I know, he will do it when he comes back right? Using that logic ANYONE could be the Messiah. Do you know who Shimon bar Kokhba is? \n\nHe was a figure who many thought might be the Messiah (and who actually met more of the Criteria then Jesus)do you no why he wasn't declared the Messiah? because he didn't fulfill the prophecies. But you know maybe he is coming back and he will fulfill the prophecies then.\n\nGive me a break!!!!\n\nDo you even know the criteria?\n\nFirst of all, he must be Jewish - "...you may appoint a king over you, whom the L-rd your G-d shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you." (Deuteronomy 17:15)\n\nHe must be a member of the tribe of Judah - "The staff shall not depart from Judah, nor the sceptre from between his feet..." (Genesis 49:10)\n\nTo be a member of the tribe of Judah, the person must have a biological father who is a member of the tribe of Judah.\n\nHe must be a direct male descendant of King David and King Solomon, his son - "And when your days (David) are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who shall issue from your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for my name, and I will make firm the throne of his kingdom forever..." (2 Samuel 7:12 - 13)\n\nThe genealogy of the New Testament is inconsistent. While it gives two accounts of the genealogy of Joseph, it states clearly that he is not the biological father of Jesus. One of the genealogies is through Nathan and not Solomon altogether!\n\nHe must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel -"And he shall set up a banner for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth." (Isaiah 11:12)\n\nAre all Jews living in Israel? Have all Jews EVER lived in Israel since the time of Jesus?\n\nHe must rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem - "...and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and my tabernacle shall be with them.." (Ezekiel 37:26 - 27)\n\nAt last check, there is NO Temple in Jerusalem. And worse, it was shortly after Jesus died that the Temple was DESTROYED! Just the opposite of this prophecy!\n\nHe will rule at a time of world-wide peace - "...they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore." (Micah 4:3)askyourself...\n\nHave you seen a newspaper lately? Are we living in a state of complete world peace? Has there ever been peace since the time of Jesus?\n\nHe will rule at a time when the Jewish people will observe G-d's commandments - "My servant David shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall follow My ordinances and be careful to observe My statutes." (Ezekiel 37:24)\n\nThe Torah is the Jewish guide to life, and its commandments are the ones referred to here. Do all Jews observe all the commandments? Christianity, in fact, often discourages observance of the commandments in Torah, in complete opposition to this prophecy.\n\nHe will rule at a time when all people will come to acknowledge and serve one G-d - "And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, says the L-rd" (Isaiah 66:23)\n\nthere are still millions if not billions of people in the world today who adhere to paganistic and polytheistic religions. It is clear that we have not yet seen this period of human history unfold.\n\nAll of these criteria are best stated in the book of Ezekie