can anybody convince me not to be luciferian?
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No amount of me telling you what is and what not ain't gonna convince you,The fact that u r asking this question is because deep down you know u r wrong,The christian God as u put it, and satan r not equal and whomever came up with the idea you being taught against the bible with the bible is really cunning must be the devil himself,Let me tell you what my God give me that no demon in hell can give you peace.God treated lucifer unjust r u kidding me? God could have killed him he should have, but look around you all the wickedness thats happening the Devil is very well in charge.Do you know your lucifer talk to God see in Job when God said to him have u considered my son Job he said To God do u think job serve u for nothing meaning the omly reason y job serve God is because he was rich God said to him take all he has Job stayed true to God anyways your devil is gonna burn in hell along with anyone who serve him, you can prove God for yourself just talk to him.Say if u r really up there do something to let me know u r real
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Firstly don't listen to any of these fools, they don't know anything about satanism.\nIt is entirely up to you to decide whether or not satanism is for you. Don't let any one tell you what you have to believe in. Which brings up my first point you don't have to believe in satan to be a satanist or sacrifice peole or any of the misconception that satanism is somehow evil. It isn't it is about being evil or anything like that it is about being yourself.\ni reccommend that you check out the church of satan website and read the satanic bible by anton la vey(a ledgend) then decide for yourself whether satanism is for you\ngood luck
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Hey, bud.  If you look hard enough, you should be able to find yourself a copy online.  That said, you're going to have to look pretty hard because the Church of Satan vociferously defends all of its copyrights and that includes Lavey's Satanic Bible.  If it's really worth it to you to read Lavey, I suggest you shell out the eight bucks at your local bookstore.  \n\nThat said, what you're describing doesn't fit into Lavey's concept of Satanism at all (at least in his later years, what he pushed early on is up for debate).  Anton Lavey taught that ultimately the individual is master of his own soul.  Going to anyone, be it Jehovah or Satan, for punishment or reward would be degradation from what I've read of LaVey.  \n\nBear in mind, I'm not saying your self-description is bad or your belief system faulty, I'm just saying maybe you need to look somewhere else to find information that would complement and grow your worldview.  Personally, I think that intuition that honor is owed to some of what we label good and some of what we label as evil is spot on.  Rather than accepting the definitions handed to you of Jehovah and Satan and viewing yourself as hedging bets between them, consider that this might be your soul nudging you in the direction of a more integrated, expansive definition of the Divine (and thus of yourself, as we usually aspire to be like what we honor).  I kind of agree with our concerned Christian friends - believing in both Jehovah and Satan will lead to spiritual and mental fracture.  It might be best to let go of both of them and move on to a definition that you map out for yourself.\n\nIf you're interested in going that route, I suggest you take a look at the Internet Sacred Text Archive.  They've got a lot of information for you to explore on your own (if you're really interested in satanism, go to their search page and shoot that into the system and see what you get), but not Lavey's Satanic Bible.  \n\nhttp://www.sacred-texts.com/index.htm\n\nGood journey to you.
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certainly not me and I would likely welcome you as a neighbour\n\n\nRequired observances, dietary restrictions: None. Non-theistic Satanists generally practice hedonism or indulgence as a matter of faith.\n\nCode of Conduct: Satanists of the COS follow the Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth:\n\n1 Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked. \n2 Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure that they want to hear them. \n3 When in another's lair, show him respect or else do not go there. \n4 If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy. \n5 Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal. \n6 Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the person and he cries out to be relieved. \n7 Acknowledge the power of magic if you have used it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained. \n8 Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself. \n9 Do not harm little children. \n10 Do not kill non-human animals unless attacked or for your food. \n11 When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
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Friend - Whoa...I need to understand how you see emotions as gothic or satanic.  Please, read Ecclesiastics 3.  God Bless
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welcome to the club sister.  I don't think you have a problem at all.  I think that you are a free thinking and open minded person.  It's when you feel that pressure to conform and be like everyone else and resist it, that you truly begin to gain a greater perspective of reality.  I suggest you read "the herd" chapter from Nietzsche's "Beyond Good and Evil".  This is the book in which the phrase was coined "God is dead".  Don't let that scare you.  What I think he really meant to teach was that organized religion and the God they invent is dead.  He challenges you, in the chapter entitled "the herd", to ask yourself if all these things that people are telling you that "God" has said are indeed from "God".  Or, are they something made up by leaders of church to influence the masses opinions to get a desired social result.  That result is control.  Don't let anyone but God control you.  He wouldn't force control on you.  He doesn't want to control you.  He offers suggestions and you choose freely.  To me though, all this damnation and hellfire are not products of Christ at all.  Christ is like the sweetest friend I have ever had.  I don't live right at all.  I have done bad things in my life.  Yet, he has never left me.  People, on the other hand, have behaved terribly...  and for that matter... so have I at times.  I decided that I would not be controlled by "the herd" either.  People will accuse you of rebellion.  Rebellion it may be, but against whom?  God?  I don't think so...  The "herd", definitely.  I had to separate myself from them, and while it is lonesome at times, it is at least free.  Knowing God should never feel like being in a social or political prison in which you are interrogated and punished.  They're like religious nazis and they have confused social control with God.  Welcome to freedom sister.  You may find groups that you "fit" with...  I never did.  This is the tragedy of the genuine individual.  Perhaps you should start your own "group" on yahoo groups.  If you do, let me know, and I will join.  This topic is certainly worthy of discussion.  Don't feel like you are alone.  There are many, many, people who have went through this...
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wont argue... I am with you to an extent... I am Wiccan and it is a very open religion that doesn't judge others or say my way or the high way. And the "gods" and such are guides and things like that not devine intervention crap...
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Since You're So Bitterly Against The BiBLE And You Feel That Strongly About It, Maybe You Should Check out "Satans Gospel"!....I'm Sure Satan's Gospel Will Suit Your Fancy and Leave The LORD'S BUSINESS ALONE!!!!
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Any faith system that claims that Lucifer is Jesus' "spiritual brother", as Mormonism does, is not Christian. As far as I am concerned, to put Jesus Christ, Lord over all, on the same level as Lucifer, a fallen angel, is heresy.\n\nSo I stand by the former.
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There is no way to shield yourself when invoking evil spirits. Since God is more powerful than anything you could call up, why don't you try asking him for something and see what the answer will be?
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Illusionist? yes.  Antichrist? No.\n\nEnd of Story.
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I am an atheist and a Satanist.\n\nModern Satanism, or LaVey Satanism, is NOT devil worship like so many have a tendancy to believe.\n\nMost of us are atheists; we don't believe in the christian devil. We believe in ourselves. Every human is their own god, they are free to accept it or not.\n\nWe are animals, sometimes better, oftentimes worse than the ones who walk on all fours, and we have carnal instincts.\n\nThe Satanist philosophy is based a lot on hedonism, and on Nietzsche's texts.\n\nAnton Szandor LaVey, the father of modern Satanism, wrote The Satanic Bible, and many other books.\n\nThere are many principles to Satanism, all of them based on common sense and logic.\n\nThese are the Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth:\n\n1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked. \n\n2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them. \n\n3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there. \n\n4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy. \n\n5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal. \n\n6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved. \n\n7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained. \n\n8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself. \n\n9. Do not harm little children. \n\n10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food. \n\n11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him. \n\nThere are more principles to it, but it's too long to explain. Please visit the official Church Of Satan website (Anton Szandor LaVey founded the Church Of Satan in 1966) for further information.\n\nhttp://www.churchofsatan.com
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When you believe in God as far as the Holy Bible is concerned, you must also believe in the enemy of God which is Satan and his demons.\nNightmares are demon-inspired. The only way to get rid\nof them is to wrap yourself in the Word of God and ask God to help you to get rid of these demons that torment you. If I had nightmares I would listen to soothing Christian music at all times and especially before I went to bed. As a matter of fact, I'd have it on while I slept.\nSatan hates that atmosphere.\nCreate an atmosphere of God's Love so much that Satan says "I can't stand this. I better go find someone else to bug".\nRead your Bible out loud before going to bed.\nAnd when it looks like things aren't improving fast enough for you, don't doubt. God sees what you're going through\nand He will answer your request when He believes it's the best time. If you have anything in your bedroom that is even slightly satanic such as worldly music with horrible lyrics or books that are even slightly evil, get rid of them.\nThe devil has a right to be in a home that has his material in it. Stay away from the occult.\nTrust in God and live for God and He will help you.
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First you really have to want it...remember Christianity is not a "Get out of hell free" card.  Next you close your eyes and bow your head and pray:  "Dear Lord, I am ready to except Jesus Christ as my personal savior, please help me to learn from his teachings...Amen"    YOUR IN!!\n\ntO STAY IN, YOU HAVE TO LIVE BY THE GOLDEN RULE.
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I highly doubt that most people are; they always view Lucifer as a demonic creature (like that in my avatar). Forgetting that he is the master of deception. Satan can be a beautiful woman or a monk for that matter. Satan can be the stray cat that you feed everyday. Lest we forget, satan is a fallen "angel". He knows the scripture "better" than you and that's a fact. One must rely on The Omnipotent for the wisdom to notice the difference and the vigor to overcome. Dominus Vobiscum.\n\nexcellent question.
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not changing urself toward divine
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Whoooaa. I thought Lucifer was satans name.  Its hardly worshipping him by calling him that.  If you are correct..ok.  But again its not worshipping him.