what do you think about the immagration laws?
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Does your friend have legal or illegal status? If she is legal, she has nothing to worry about. If she is illegal, she should do whatever is necessary to gain legal status before she does have to go.\n\nThe United States is a nation of laws. We cannot pick and choose which laws we follow, or the very fabric which holds our country together will begin to unravel.\n\nTo those who say we should "overlook" this law because so many have been here so long, I ask these questions:\n\nWhat if an illegal immigrant (NOT undocumented worker) is hungry? Is it alright to allow him to steal to fill his belly?\n\nWhat if an illegal immigrant has to get to work? Is it alright for him to steal a car to get there?\n\nWhat if an illegal immigrant is missing the señora and feeling a little randy? Is it okay for him to commit rape to satisfy those urges?\n\nWhy is it different, then, when it comes to breaking immigration laws? A law is a law is a law. We cannot pick and choose which laws we allow to be broken vs. those ones we follow.\n\nIf you do not like the immigration laws, elect someone who will change them. Until then, every illegal immigrant in this country is a slap in the face to those who immigrate legally. Immigration to the United States is not easy - it is not supposed to be.\n\nThere is no "right" to be able to immigrate here. You have to earn it. As with anything, that which is worth having is worth working for.
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I think it is great. I think 5 years is more than enough time for illegals to get their things in order and gain citizenship or leave. It's not because I think we are better than them. It's because I live in Northwest-Arkansas. And for those of you who don't know. There is a sign on the US side of the Mexican border that says "Come to Northwest-Arkansas for work" Well, that's great...because half of the people I know...can't get jobs, because illegals are taking them. How is that fair? This is the first right thing that Bush has done. Why protest it? I DO believe that illegal immigrants should have the right to the American Dream, if they gain citizenship. But when you think about it, The money that is taken out of your weekly paycheck, that is supposed to go to the Social Security Fund, (to help you and your family out later on in life) is paying for their healthcare and their housing in some cases. So, tell me, how is it fair that the people who are citizens, get to pay for the illegal immigrants' needs and get nothing in return. Do you think  there will be any money left, when it is your turn to need the Social Security money?
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As far as the immigration issue, I have no problem with anyone wanting to immigrate, but why all of the sneaking over? Does it just take so long to go through all of the red tape or something? Just curious. I didn't see any of the previous postings, but you are completely correct! Unless you are of American-Indian descent, TECHNICALLY none of the rest of our bloodlines originated in what is now the United States! It frustrates and saddens me to see that people are still so ignorant. Even more so when I see them passing these beliefs and attitudes down to their young children! I think there is no greater crime than that! Where did the innocence of youth go? Way to go though. Great topic!
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I also feel this law is outdated and should be abolished.  In fact, just tonight, I watched a show on TV that said that some years back the Cuban government released all of their worst criminals and put them on shoddy boats aimed towards the USA in order to get rid of their worst criminals and take advantage of the stupid foot on dry land law for Cubans.  I don't understand why the USA isn't quicker at changing laws that are outdated.  Other countries are so quick to take advantage and they obviously keep right up to the minute on what our laws are.  \n\nRegardless, we still have laws about immigration and I want them enforced and I want ALL illegal immigrants deported and I want this done asap, regardless of the cost, because I believe the cost will be less to the American taxpayers in the long run.  If our immigration laws are outdated, they should  be updated, and if things take too long, they should be changed so that applications can be expedited, but the USA has a right to determine who they want for immigrants and how many of them they want and where they should live and what types of jobs they will do.  It is unfair that they flock to certain states and towns and so overburdening the social services, school systems, corrections systems, and medical care of those areas.  With proper immigration systems, people are told where they can go.  The immigrants aren't the ones to decide where they will go - the government has the say as to where they can go.  With illegal immigration - they flock to wherever they want and this causes some areas to be overburdened and without the proper tax basis to support them and actually causing a negative effect on the legal US citizens and immigrants in those areas.\n\nThere is a real, sane reason why a country should have a say in who gets in and where they will go.
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I Think The Laws Are In Place For A Reason...\nTo Prevent Terrible Things To Happen To Our Nation\nThings Like THIS For Instance\n\nA close, personal friendship with President George W. Bush has given Mexicos President Vicente Fox the opportunity to purposely allow (or even send) Millions of Criminals, Thugs, Anarchists, and Potential Terrorists to swarm over our southern border in breathtaking numbers. (Nearly half of all illegal aliens currently living in the U.S. came here since Bush became president in 2000.) \n\nMexican American Legal Defense Fund founder Mario Obledo stated, “California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like it should leave. Every constitutional office in California is going to be held by Hispanics in the next 20 years. People who don't like such demographic changes “should go back to Europe.” \n(Incidentally, Senor Obledo was also the California Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Gov. Jerry Brown.) \nObledo Is A Member Of "MEChA" And "LA RAZA"\n\nThe newly "ELECTED"mayor, Antonio Villaraigosa, joined the lawbreakers and proclaimed \n"This bill in Congress is wrong". "The only thing illegal is making 11 million illegal aliens felons." \nYeah, he Actually said that. People should make no mistake about it: Villaraigosa was "ELECTED" by ILLEGALs VOTING, and HIS Allegiance, along with the rest of these "ELECTED" public officials in California of Mexican ancestry is to Mexico, not California or these United States of America. Villaraigosa has spent a lifetime opposing U.S. immigration laws.\nVillaraigosa is A Member Of "MEChA" and " LA RAZA"\n\nMEChA and the La Raza movement teach that Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington State make up an area known as "AZTLAN" -- a fictional ancestral homeland of the Aztecs before Europeans arrived in North America. As such, it belongs to the followers of MEChA. These are all areas America should surrender to "La Raza" once enough immigrants, legal or illegal, enter to claim a majority, as in Los Angeles. The current borders of the United States will be extinguished.\n\nThe Council of La Raza succeeded in having itself added to congressional hearings by Republican House and Senate leaders. And an anonymous senator even gave the Council of La Raza an extra $4 million in earmarked taxpayer money, supposedly for "housing reform," while La Raza continues to lobby the Senate for virtual open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens. \nhttp://www.humaneventsonline.com/article...\n\n"We have an aging white America ... They are dying ...The explosion is in our population . . . I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it." \nWe have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him." \nJose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas, Arlington and founder of the La Raza Unida political party \n\nArt Torres, California Democratic Party chairman, at the Latino Summit In Response to Prop 187 at U.C. Riverside (Jan. 14, 1995): \n"Power is not given to you, you have to take it! People say to me when I was on the Senate floor, when I was in the Senate, why do you fight so hard for affirmative action programs. And I tell my white colleagues: because you're gonna need them. Remember, 187 is the last gasp of white America\n\nYou Can Hear These Words For Yourself Along With OTHER INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE Of A Conspiracy To Overthrow Our Nation \nhttp://tinyurl.com/pqzpe\n\nOther Members Of This Group Include\n\nAugustin Cebada, Brown Berets; \n"Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die . . Through love of having
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It should have been done a long time ago.  There are legal means to enter the USA.  And we welcome immigrants.  As far as I'm concern these people that sneak into our country are not immigrants.  They are criminals.  And should be treated as criminal.  But we had looked the other way for so many years that now since we have decide to do something.  We should do as the President said in his speech.  He laid it out plain and simple.\nCHUCK\n:--#  )
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i would be curious what people think of this in comparison to illegal immigrants in the US.  Yahoo will change their policy when the government changes theirs.  or are you suggesting that yahoo break the law?
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I think you could deport quite a few out of the proceeds we would save from having few illegal immigrants.  I think that is what we will be doing with the felons, etc.\n\nIf border security works to a large extent, that will let us work on the backlog over a period of time.  If the ID cards go into effect with biometric data and an enhanced database to check legal resident status, that will not only mean new illegal immigrants will have a harder time finding jobs, it will make it easier to catch current illegal immigrants who do not fit the 'qualification' status.  \n\nAs for me, I wouldn't deport the current, qualified illegal immigrants with roots.  I think we need to focus on stopping the problem going forward.  \n\nHowever, I would say that the new legal status of current illegal immigrants should not give them status to 'bootstrap' in family members.  I would say the family members could get in by other legal means including the planned legal immigration rate increase. However, if we allow the current illegal immigrants to use their new legal status to bootstrap family members in, we will be talking about 60 million people, not 12 million people.
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If anyone immigrates illegally they are treated the same from the gov standpoint - no matter what country they are from.\n\nBut the truth of the matter is that immigrants from Canada do get treated better by US society than do immigrants (legal or otherwise) from Mexico.  The many posts on this question show that we often assume a Canadian will look somewhat like us and speak English (even though a good portion of Canada speaks French) and therefore, they must have come legally.  Whereas society looks at any Latino and makes the assumption they are here illegally and they are Mexican.  That is called prejudice.  And unfortunately, our great country still struggles with prejudice as this topic shows so well.\n\nUnless you are Native American, your family immigrated at some point - this is what makes America quite unique in the world.  Yes, laws should be followed and enforced, however the automatic biased negative reaction towards Hispanics is wrong.\n\nThe first step to getting better on this is admitting that racism does indeed exist.
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Chris Simcox, president of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, issued the following statement on the passage today of an illegal alien amnesty bill by the U.S. Senate: \n\n"The vote to give amnesty to millions of illegal aliens by the United States Senate today, should it pass into law, would ensure that the status quo is maintained: the borders would remain wide open and the attractive nuisance of endless welfare and social programs at the expense of the American taxpayer would remain. Those climbing over the backs of those waiting patiently to abide by our laws; and instead breaking the law, illegally entering this country, and committing document fraud; those not paying taxes; and those hiring illegally would be granted full amnesty. American citizens would, of course, still be subject to prosecution for document fraud and tax evasion. This sends the message that if you play by the rules, you suffer; if you enter the United States illegally, you are not subject to the rule of law.\n"The American people do not trust the government to grant amnesty now and secure the borders later. We already went down that road in 1986, and the borders remain wide open still today. \n\n"Their constituents are watching, and these Senators will pay the price come election time. We are now focusing our attention on the House of Representatives where we do not expect amnesty to pass. The House is more respectful of their voters, as they stand for re-election every two years. The arrogance and cavalier disregard of the will of the American people by this Senate will not be forgotten-there will be an accounting. The American people are still sovereign in this country, not a gaggle of politicians pandering to their special interest donors. \n\n"The existing border crisis is a dereliction of duty by those entrusted with this nation's security, sovereignty and prosperity. The U.S. Senate just left America vulnerable to a tsunami of migrants at the border, to terrorist infiltration and to an unprecedented crime wave by drug smugglers, thieves, rapists, human traffickers and murderers who cross our frontier at will-and whose bravado and aggression will now increase with the Senate's message of our apparent national weakness. \n\n"But the Minutemen will remain on patrol, at our posts-and continue to build border fencing and barriers on private land with private donations until the U.S. government performs its most basic constitutional duty to these United States, and safeguards the people and protects the territorial integrity of America."
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I think it just solidified the antagonism felt on both sides. Personally, I am against illegal immigrants from any country.  The key word is ILLEGAL. By doing what they did, I think they just made legal citizens angrier with them and much less likely to feel any sympathy.  Why do they think they have the right to demand a privilege be given to them that so many others worked so hard to obtain? It lessens the value of what the legal immigrants obtained, and sends the message that we'll just throw our hands up and say, "Oh, okay, if you insist, come on in illegally.  We'll yell a little bit then let you stay."  Can you imagine the flood of illegals we'll get if these people are given amnesty?
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When looking at this issue here in this forum I was beginning to think that all America had gone crazy by only really considering 2 categories.  Citizen or Illegal.  There is a third category and that is Alien Residents who are in the country legally.  There is a large difference and I am glad that you to have noticed it as well.  All of us started out as immigrants at one point of history or another.  Even the Native Americans are said to have come from somewhere else, however as they settled the land centuries before any one else they are the only ones who we can say did not immigrate to this country, or Hemisphere for that matter.  As we are in the middle of trying to hammer out legislation for immigrants while we are doing this we should look at the laws that have been on the books since the 1920s and think about updating them.  I would favor them making it against the Federal Law to be an Illegal, however I would not support housing them in Federal Prison for any time and costing us even more than what we are spending now, deportation should be enough for first offense.  I do not feel that those who have assisted Illegals in a humanitariun sense should not be guilty of any crime, however those that profit from bringing them to the country or taking advantage of them when they are here should be punished.  There need to be many things done to update our system and make it have some teeth.  We also must as a nation realize it is not just a Hispanic problem we have illegals from every country in the world and we need to be aware of it and aknowledge it being that way.
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I am very honored that so many people want to come over here to the United States. This is supposed to be the land of freedom and opportunity. If we look at it, everyone is an immigrate. People have fled to the U.S. to escape poverty, genocide, political instablity, etc. As a matter of fact, if it wasn't for my ancestors who were forced to come to this land during the slave trade, I would have never been here. Why is it that only the United States is trying to protect the borders so harshly. I've traveled to may countries, not a a legal citizen, but as a tourist, and I have been welcomed with open arms. The resources that we take for granted such as health care, retirement, and social security, isn't offered to a lot of people outside the United States. Everyone should be given an equal opportunity, but on the other hand, we are over looking the fact that there are people who are sneaking into the United States that what to cause harm. Maybe the process of becoming a legal citizen shouldn't be so hard. How would you like it if you were only considered a citizen based on a document of papers? I'm not discriminating against Africans, Jews, Polish, Hispanic, Arabic, or any other race. We just need to redefin where we are trying to do with this immigration bill and not over react by saying that immigrates will be felones and will have to be deported. This just ridiculous if you ask me.
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I think people understand wut is going on. If this law passes their is going to be so many changes that can affect so many people. Did u know if u have a green card they can take it away. Also if this law passes they can ship ever single person back weather legal or not.
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HERE IS THE THING I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THOSE OF OTHER NATIONS MOVING HERE BUT I HAVE A FEW RULES IN MY EYES SHOULD BE LAW... AND ENFORCED\n\nHERE 1 YEAR AND U BETTER SPEAK F**KING ENGLISH\n\nIF YOU CAN NOT HOLD A JOB AFTER 6 MONTHS THEN U GO THE F**K HOME\n\nNOT JUST ONE FAMILY MEMBER CAN BE A LEGAL CITIZEN  FOR THE WHOLE F**KING FAMILY OR GO BACK TO WHERE U CAME FROM \n\nI COULD KEEP GOING BUT UR GETTING THE GIST ... THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE ITS A HUGE ISSUE NOW AND THE FACT IS WE AS VOTERS HAVE A VOICE WAKE UP PEOPLE WE HAVE CAUSED THIS TO HAPPEN CAUSE WE ARE TO BUSY KISSIN ASS TO BE A NATION OF LOVE AND REALLY WAHT IS ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE IS A WAR WITHIN THE UNITED STATES AND FUNNY THING IS LOL WE HAVE OPENED THE GATES THERE WILL BE RIOTS THERE WILL BE KILLING THERE WILL BE A WAR ....IF U THINK THIS IS NOT COMMING OHH U ARE SO DAMN WRONG ... AND THEN WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE STARTED SEPERATED NATIONALITIES IT WILL START ALL OVER KICKER IS CAUSE WE DID NOT TAKE CARE OF A SIMPLE PROBLEM AND WE HAVE NOW MADE LAWS WHICH DON'T GET ME WRONG ARE GOOD LAWS ... THAT GIVE THEM MORE POWER IN THE FACT THAT THEY ARE HERE ILLEGAL ... WE OWE THEM SOMETHING LEGALLY ... WE HAVE CREATED THIS SHIT .. OK I AM GONNA SHUT UP LOL HUGS OH YEAH
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Are you asking if we should send migrants home to their countries of origins if convicted of some crimes in their host countries?\n\nIf that is your question, then I would say - "Definitely Yes!"\n\nWe have our share of criminals, but they are home grown, we can't help but keep them here and simply use the law to deal with them.\n\nIt's like a parents will deal with their naughty boy but still keep him at home.\n\nBut why would you keep someone else's naughty boy at your home when he caused trouble to you while visiting or staying over?  \n\nYou would send them home wouldn't you?\n\nThe same with governments.  We should send criminal homes to their countries of origins and let them be dealt with by their legal system.  Let them eat their prison food paid by their own tax payers.\n\nI think refugees should be given first a temporary asylum visas.  Check background and then be considered for PR.\n\nIf they claimed that their papers are destroyed and their ID cannot be confirmed, well give them the benefit of the doubt but have a clause for repatriation.\n\nI think this is fair ask.\n\nWant to come and live with us, be a useful member of the community.  Want to sit on their bottoms and have plenty of time to act out their crimes, go home!
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Yes, I love it!  I look on the internet news daily for more stories like the one about the mayor of Hazelton, PA, or Sheriff Joe in Arizona, or big unexpected roundups of illegals in different cities.  It does my heart proud to see the citizens of the USA standing up against this injustice that the government has allowed to occur and get out of hand - illegal immigration.  I believe the power of the American citizens is now snowballing against illegal immigration and whether the Federal Government wants to or not, they are going to have to listen to the people whom they work for, and act accordingly.  The days of the freebies and handouts for illegal immigrants are quickly coming to an end and the smart ones will start planning their own voluntary self-deportations now, rather than wait until they are found and shipped out, possibly leaving family members behind in the USA.  Better they start planning and get themselves organized for an orderly return to their home countries before they get caught by immigration officials or the police or their landlord or their employer.  This way, if they have lived cleanly in the USA so far, without committing further offences since they first illegally came over the border, they have a hope of returning legally one day, if they go home now and apply to immigrate to the USA through the proper procedures.  WAKE UP ILLEGALS!  Do yourselves and your families a favour and return yourselves in an orderly fashion now, while you still can.  Otherwise, don't cry and whine when you get caught and shipped out on a moment's notice, when you aren't ready.  The jig is up!  Amnesty is NOT coming!!  Wake up and smell the coffee!