Archaeologists teach us that the wheel was developed in 3000BC by a non Jewish population. It wasn't God?
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Wanna make a long term bet.
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>>>>I'm just curious who was historically the first on the land….\n\nThe trouble is that the question makes no sense. Both historically and mythologically the Jews were Arabs. They aren’t a different people, they are simply a different religious sect. Prior to the rise of Islam around 1500 years ago the Middle East and North Africa was home to thousands of different religions, and one of those religions was Judaism. The different sects were in a state of near perpetual war with their neighbours as well as with the great powers like Babylon and Egypt.\n\nFrom a purely historical perspective it seems that one of the numerous religious sects living in Palestine gained the upper hand, either through theocratic means or through warfare or a combination of the two. Gradually they absorbed all the other people of that region and formed the state of Israel.\n\nBear in mind also that even at the time of Christ present day Israel wasn’t entirely Jewish occupied or controlled. Much of it was in Samaria, the Samaritans being a Hebrew but not Jewish sect that didn’t accept the absolute sanctity of the temple.\n\nSo as you can see it’s not a simple case of saying the Arabs or Jews were there first. Historically Jews are Arabs and Jews never historically occupied all of what is now Israel.\n\n>>>> were the jews exiled or chased out or volunteerily left?\n\nA little from column A, a little from column B.\n\nRemember how at the time of Jesus Israel had been occupied by the Romans?  Needless to say the Jews didn’t like that, and the situation was further aggravated by the Romans doing various stupid and offensive things. Eventually the people of Jerusalem and much of Judeaea got fed up and rebelled. A lot of Romans were killed, a lot more Jews were killed, a lot of Jews killed themselves rather than be captured. \n\nThe Romans ascribed the unrest to a religious source and decided that enough was enough and The Temple was torn down. \n\nWithout the temple to sacrifice at the Jews had no strong reason to cling to Israel, and combined with Roman persecution they mostly decided to leave in several waves over the next few hundred years.\n\nSo you could say that it was a voluntary Exodus, but it was just as much a refugee movement.\n\n>>>>Why did the international community choose the land in dispute now?\n\nBasically because\n\n1)It is the traditional Jewish homeland and a lot of Jews wanted it back.\n2)Jews had a lot of political clout in Washington after the war.\n3) Jews had been regularly slaughtered in Europe over the last 2000 years, and the recent Nazi holocaust was by far the worst example. A lot of people tjought that it would be a good idea not let it keep happening, and decided the best way to do that would be to give the Jews their own country outside Europe.\n\nCombine those three factors and you see a simple solution to all problems/ The fact that Palestine was a British colony/protectorate at the time and Britain wanted to offload all its colonies as fast as possible helped no end.\n\nBenji Man  wrote:\n>>>>>Africa is the cradle of civ so I will go with an early nomadic african people.\n\nAfrica is not the cradle of civilisation. Asia is without a doubt the cradle of civilisation with a second nucleus in Central America.
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Adam and Eve were the FIRST people... that did not mean that God could not have created more the same way. Its just a thought:)
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Sparky First let me say I appreciate the 10 pts. I don't know what I did to piss you off though. I told you to look up the work "Qumran" because it is one of the best documented archaeological finds in the world and I knew that there would be plenty of info online (which would be convenient for you). Would you rather me refer you to the dozens of books that I know of offhand or to an infinite # of archaeological reports that are incredibly boring to read? I studied Qumran under Jodi Magness at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and she is the foremost American Archaeologist in the world concerning the "holyland." In particular, she is definitely the foremost authority on Qumran, where the Dead Sea Scrolls were found.  In case you don't know, archaeology is SCIENCE, not religion, and archaeological reports and finds are scientific and are not at all connected to the Church or any religion.  \n\nNothing in my answer to you dealt with religious dogma, I simply tried to answer your question as to why SOME Christians see a threat in the DaVinci code. Now, as for your claim that the bible was written 200 years after Christ, well that's true for some of the later NT books, but not of the Gospels. Some of the gnostic texts were much later than the gospels, which is part of the reason they were rejected by the church. \n\nAnd lastly, you claim that the bible has changed so many times that it's all crap. What do you have to support this? Go see the Dead Sea Scrolls some time, which were written between 2500-2000 yrs ago (as I visited a DSS exhibit about a month ago in Charlotte, NC). And then compare that to the KJV or the American Standard Bible.  The Old Testament found in the 1950s in the Caves near Qumran is nearly word for word with what we have today.  It is amazing that in 2000 or more years the Jewish text has changed so little!  This means that we should all reexamine the amount of credit we have granted the Jewish oral tradition that was so important to the early Christian Church.  IT IS ACCURATE, whether you want to admit it or not. SCIENCE and HISTORY support that.\n\nAgain, I answered your question rather well... Let me try one more time in FIVE SIMPLE SENTENCES that will be very easy for you to comprehend this time:\n\n1.  It wouldn't be so bad if Jesus was married.\n\n2.  Christians are NOT offended or threatened by the possibility that Jesus could have been married.\n\n3.  It's simply not historically true or believable, from the bible and from the writings of two Roman historians Tacitus and Josephus.\n\n4.  However, Some Christians ARE offended by the notion that Christ was not Divine; and the "The DaVinci Code" claims his having a child is proof that Jesus was NOT divine.\n\n5.  Such a claim can be damaging to the mission field because people like you believe anything and everything you read in a novel or see on TV and are therefore hostile toward Christianity.\n\nSo, that's why some Christians are offended by the DaVinci Code and by the notion that Christ might have been married to and had a child with Mary Magdalene.  Because of the hostility towards Christianity that such false belief creates.  People like you work directly against anyone trying to bring people to Christ.  \n\nPS.. the whole "MM was a whore" lost in translation thing.. do your history research man, you don't know what you are talking about at all.  You speak fiction and pass it off as truth. \n\nAnd you wonder why people would be offended?  maybe some people just like the truth?\n\nLet me ask you a question.  Why are you so offended by Christianity?  What are YOU afraid of?  The Truth?
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ita an ancient many thousands of years old jewish art, perhaps it was founded in israel? (before other people occupied the jewish nation)\nIt has nothing to do with the "devil" which is a silly christian invention
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True, if you think about it, 2000 years or so ago, there were no scientists to prove or disprove anything, so it became a moralistic way of life that got way out of control (forming of religions). The bible is a conglomeration of stories that were told after the fact, which means that they were highly embellished (if they happened at all).
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It's all arguable was to when it was written. Western scholars dated the time within the time frame of the date given by archeologist and historians of Europe at the time which were fixing all time to fit within Western thought (thus the begining of the world was with the Garden of Eden and there was a year already established that this occured...therefore all other dates that differed from this had to be changed....sadly while most of the Western world has updated its dates, the eastern history is still not been changed in most reference books....and eastern civilizations are very old and to account for this, because Western science says that all civilization began in Egypt and Mesopotamia...and then of course with the Garden of Eden...the dates of eastern civilizations again have been changed and are still not fixed). Thus some say that the Vedas were written down in 5000BCE, some 1500BCE, some in 500BCE, some in 500AD. Basically, it's all still being debated, but atleast scholars now acknowledge that the Rig Veda is the oldest sacred text and ancient literature in existence. That atleast has been agreed upon. Otherwise, just remember when reading anything about eastern religions that the dates will vary. If you speak to easterners who have retained their tradition telling of the time it is usually much closer to what is believed to be accurate (like the birth of Buddha, etc) than what Western scholars currently have set.
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It would apprear so in the book of Ezekiel when he describes the wheel within a wheel. However, the thinking on UFOs may be backward. Chuck Missler in his very well documented book "Alien Encounters" suggests (with scientific agreement) that what is being seen in the sky is actually a spiritual or cross-dimensional phenomenon. The Ezekiel wheel is actually a heavenly, angelic description, which may be in fact what others have seen as a UFO. Having seen one once in my life as a kid, I can definately tell you that it is amazing sight.
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Well done for starting to think like a human.\n\nIt is pretty obvious that the bible is not true. It is a packaged product designed to create a religious truth with which to bind (and blind) people. \n\nBind in that you believe in 'God' and you have to take the bible wholesale (imperfections, contradications and everything). Blind int hat you have to ignore the real evidence of history in order to 'believe' and be saved.\n\nArcheologists do not tend to use the bible as source material because so much of it is false. There is no historical reference to Jesus outside of a few books in the bible. \n\nIn the ancient world myths were not seen as untrue in quite the way we see them today. Myths were a way of spreading a spritual idea or 'truth' through the telling of an allegorical tale that could work on many levels. \n\nThe Egyptians, for example, were prodigious record keepers. We have found written accounts for the tiniest minutea of their daily lives, and records for nobles and royal families stretching back many thousands of years. We even know the names of those kings that that they tried to have 'erased' from history. \nYet nowhere in any of these records is a high nobleman called 'Moses' recorded. And there is no mention anywhere of the Jews being held captive in Egypt, or of thousands of Jewish 'slaves' suddenly up and leaving via the red sea. \n\nRead the bible, by all means. But do not take it literally!
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OK, you need to be specific. Here ya go...\n\n A Hebrew kingdom established in 1000 B.C. was later split into the kingdoms of Judah and Israel; they were subsequently invaded by Babylon in 586 B.C. - That was the end of ANCIENT Israel. But not the end of Israel.
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hey wrath ur intitled to your opions but u miht want to cheack you facts carbon and urainium dating have both been proven to be faulty in one way or another so the date the beer from babylon came to be could be wrong i dont claim to have all the answers but no credible scientist has come forward with concrete evidence to disprove the Bible so dont strain yourself\nps escuse my spelling and grammer i really just dont pay attention
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I agree and this is one of the most difficult issues that I have been struggling with lately.  Our ancestors of 2000 years ago did not have the science nor the technology to explain everyday events.  "Oh my gosh!  That glowing ball is back!  It must be a god!"  So, they named him Helios.  I'm just so confused as to why the Bible is still the end all, be all authority.  We've obviously made leaps and bounds in our understanding of the earth, our solar system, our galaxy and our universe.  Ugh!  I'm just so confused and find it VERY hard to follow with blind faith.
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No, he did not. Watch the video at the link. It compares the Bible to the Book of Mormon with archaeology and anthropology and there's also another video here proving the DNA of Native Americans to be Asian and not Hebrew in origin. You can watch the videos online for free.
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In the Bible it talks about a wheel within a wheel and that Ezekiel was in it.Also 2Kings 2:11 And it came to pass ,as they went on and talked that behold there appeared a chariot of fire.And parted them both asunder;and Elijah went up in a wirlwind into heaven.Some would say these were ufos,could we identfy it today?ufos means we can`t identify the object,it doesn`t mean someone else can`t.
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It isn't.  The Jewish bible and its precepts were far more influential in the development of Western civilization.  Just look at all the universities with Hebrew lettering in their official seals.
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:}\nG-d is real the exodus was not Abraham's but Israel with Moses
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The book of moses is about moses, not by moses.\n\nI agree with what you are saying, in general.\n\nAs to your question, people who are uneducated about history misinterpret the bible on a daily and ongoing basis.\n\nThe power of the bible, for me, is not diminished by it's being dated only 3000 years ago.