when did illegals start paying taxes and voting-how can you when your not here?
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mlewis51 is correct, they do forge papers.  My mothers former employer didn't even know they had an illegal working for them until his family had a fire in their apartment so he was out of work for a few days dealing with the red cross and temporary housing.  During this time Social Security called them up and they found out he was using 3 different people's social security numbers, none of them belong to him & he was an undocumented worker who was here illegally.  The company tried to contact him to see if he was coming back to work and all of a sudden he fail off the face of the earth, couldn't call him, find him, nothing.\n\nThe website that mlewis51 listed is a very good organization to look up in regards to illegal immigration.  You really should check it out!  I get information via email from them all the time, I try to help out when and where I can, etc.  It is very informative!
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In Arizona most ,not all of the illegal aliens are paid in cash. That means the illegal and the illegal employer don't pay taxes on anything.The illegal that is paid cash does pay sales tax on anything that he purchases.No the illegals are legally allowed to get benefits but thru the use of forged and /or stolen documents they can and do get them.I personally do not hire any illegal aliens in my business.I cant trace everything I buy all the way thru its entire process to make sure an illegal alien didn't have a hand in it somehow.What has that got to do with the fact that they are illegal?Can you trace everything you buy to make sure that child forced labor wasn't involved at some point in its processing?The fact that the illegals that do pay taxes are paying in one of theses ways,either with a stolen/shared/false/forged social security number .Or working with a TIN# that they pay taxes,I don't have any problem with the fact that they pay some taxes and don't get anything back.First of all they have no legal right \nto work here so why should they be rewarded.\nThe way that a lot of illegals pay for an apartment is that\nmany will band together and stay in the same apt.that makes it possible.If 10 people make $ 5 per hour that turns into $ 50.and hour collectively.If they work 8 hours a day that's $ 400.per day or $2400.per 6 day work week\nSo they can afford to rent,eat,and still send money home.\nHere in Arizona in the areas that they live in no one cares how many are crammed into the over priced dump of an apartment or trailer park.You are very biased and not fully informed on every aspect of the problems with illegal aliens in this country.It has NOTHING to do with what race they are only the fact that there are so many and they are illegal.Dont be so sure that the illegal couldnt be sent back to thier own country.A mass deportation could be done,after all ,the Army can ship hundreds of thousands of men in a matter of days.So if we let the Army take care of it ,yes it could be done.Mass deportation is the first option as far as Im concerned.\nNever say anything cant be done by America\n,we seem to always find a way .Dont we?\nNo Social Security cards to any one thats illegal.\nThe legal American that collects welfare,is legally allowed by law to do so,the illegal alien is not.
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Well this is no small thing dude.Immigration is not such a simple process that you will be given Citizenship in a jiffy.First you have to go to the US on a visitors visa.Find employment there and get a work permit.Then after many years if your record is clean you will be given a Greencard.Some years after the same you will be given citizenship and therefore the right to vote.Hence this is a long process which will take years.
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Someone asked this yesterday.  Or you could go on the Internet "percent" "illegal immigrants" "prison" etc.  That is what I did.
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Exactly...but to here pro-illegals talk:  "They are not a burden."  LOL\n\nBlah...you are blah.  Americans citizens and in most cases their ancestors have been paying into taxes for years and years and years.  Part of being a citizen who pays taxes is being able to take advantage of governmental services.  Yes...believe it or not our government believes in giving back to its taxpayers by offering them sometimes needed welfare, food stamps and medical benefits.  They were not, however, designed to support individuals who are not "putting anything back into the pool."  Those individuals happen to be illegal aliens.
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Yep, but it will never happen until people stop getting a check because of their own poor life choices. Unfortunately all of societies parasites can vote, and since they don't have jobs, they have all the time they need  to make it to the voting booths. So, until society starts making welfare recipients feel like the failures they are again, expect higher taxes.
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Too bad he's not an "illegal alien."  The plan is to give them an opportunity to pay two of the past five years' taxes, plus a small fine, and to call it even!  Great country!
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Ok....let's get one thing straight.  When my (and many others) ancestors came here long ago IT WASN"T ILLEGAL!!!  Most of them came here not for money or a better life but for life itself (jews, scots, irish).  They had people actually killing them, I mean gun to the head, knife to the heart.  And they came to this country and FOUGHT for this country, losing whole families along the way.  I live in the south and am a proud southerner (that does not mean racist), my family were poor dirt farmers from Tennessee who scraped by with what they could grow or what they could buy with the little money my father (who had to drop out of school at the age of 12 to get a job - only boy out of 11 children - and fought in Vietnam) made doing odd jobs.  Today we have laws in place to stop the over population of our country.  My husband is an immigrant who went through the proper channels.  Yes, it cost money that we didn't have but we STILL went through the proper channels.  They will let you in unless you have something to hide, all you have to do is fill out the paper work and wait.  I know that today time is money and one day can mean the life and death of someone you love but AMERICA is NOT to blame for the state of your home country.  I am all for immigration if it is done legally!  As far as I am concerned, whether you come from Mexico, China, England, France, or Tim-buck-too, if you come here illegally you should be prepared to face the repercussions of doing so.  Breaking the law is breaking the law, period.  No one is above it (with the exception of the Bosh family - or so they wish us to believe).
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Thank you. As ridiculuous as that sounds, thank you for taking the time to obey our immigration laws. I agree with you that those that do not follow the laws are crimminals. I do not see you as an uncle tom or back stabber or whatever the others on here have called you. If you and thousands of others have taken the time to follow the correct procedures to obtain citizenship in this country, no matter how hard it was, you deserve to hold your head high. Those that don't, and continue to break our immigration laws should be rounded up and sent back to wherever they came from. I no longer want to support them through my taxes just so they can send the money they make back to their native country.
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Go to work, pay your taxes, vote, help others.
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No. Payment of taxes, residency, and voting are completely separate issues. Voting, participating in the government of a country, is properly restricted to citizens of that country. In fact, by law, an American citizen who votes in another country's elections forfeits his American citizenship.
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Just to let you know there's not only one but many who share your views. The problem is, the Representatives you voted for doesn't care at all or else, they'll not even consider giving those illegals their rights to live here! Try to contact the government representative and tell them how you feel or else, they might be thinking we don't care at all as to what happening now and even our future!
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illegals cant work, they arrive with no money, where they gonna get money for taxes
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Thank You,someone else in my situation.My husband,too,is illegal.He got stopped at the border and immigration let him in america after 3 mos in jail.And he is mexican also.They gave him a social security card(for all those who think "mexicans" steal them)and a temp. visa.He met me and never went back.We pay our taxes ---- alot of them,and with HIS social security#.Property tax,insurance,dental,medical(for us and 4 kids),we pay it all.My husband supports 2 of my kids who aren't even his-they are white.Their boilogical father has nothing to do with them and we were married for 5 yrs.My husband is a great man,and is way better than alot of legal/born americans.When we can save the money,he will get legal(hopefully).Until then,he works,pays taxes,and doesn't get welfare.And uses his own ss#.Hope it helps to know someone else like you.
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Well it is a small percentage of these people that get paid cash. They use forged social security cards and then get a check and get taxes and social security taken out and they never see any of that. As for property taxes, they do pay since i know personally people that do not have a green card that own houses and pay property tax so don't believe those people who generalize and do not know the facts to say illegals don't pay taxes.\nHow about all those American born people that get paid under the table and don't report that income? Is just an argument xenophobes use against immigrants.
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If you are here illegaly then you will have to go back to mexico for forgiveness(1-2 yrs) then you get your litte paper thing. and you are a citizen(but they could take it away from you at any tim so don't mess it up)
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Yes, they are waiting but I don't know if you could call it an amnesty.\n\nWhat they want is an OPPORTUNITY to become legal, this will grant them freedoms they don't have right now (ie. traveling, have a drivers license -in some states-, be able to have a bank account, apply for credit / loans, etc.).\n\nIllegal aliens do pay taxes, Real Taxes (house) Property taxes (vehicles), sales taxes. Most pay income tax, just as most Americans do.\n\nNow, some of them have an ITIN card, is an IRS card for tax purposes ONLY. Others choose to have a invented SS # and their employers take the same withdraws they would take from any other worker.\n\nSo most of them are already paying taxes.  I can't say there aren't some that get paid cash, but again all of them you see at stores, building roads, etc. receive a W2 or a 1099-MISC which have to file for their tax refund. The downside for them is that the withhelds to SS and Medicare will never be applied to their names, making a surplus on funds in the billions of dollars that nobody is talking about.\n\nTo finish, regardless of your status or citizenship:\n\nWill you pay taxes or a higher tax to be able to live without fear, will all the freedoms that the USA offers? \n\nThey would.