Mexican Immigration Law -- Educate Yourselves and Spread the Word?
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ummm... my answer would be yes... no wait... it would be no... oh wait..\n\nYOU DIDN'T ASK A QUESTION!
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You ask too much of the common Mexican my friend.\nThe age of heroism, of courage and love of country is now dead. It has been replaced by cowardice, despair, political correctness and "me-myself and my 40 relatives" mentality.\n\nYou Yanks have yourselves to blame as well. \nYou had so many years to establish a clear-cut immigration policy and strict border enforcement, yet the attention has only started coming in recently (1980s), by which time the mentality of "no-borders, freedom to come and go and do whatever to any country" has already taken deep roots in Mexico and in other places from which these illegals come from.\n\nIt isnt too late to change this... but the cost of doing it late will not be cheap, and the reformation of Mexico (given the long-entrenched elite and local cowardice I mentioned in other postings) will be both costly and bloody. \n\nIt isnt the laws or the borders or rules that need to change, rather its the people and the attitudes they have. Change that... and your problem will be one step closer to being solved.
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you would think so - dont even get me started on this subject - in my town the mexicans either stand at the gas station in the mornings waiting for someone to pull up in a truck and give them a days work (although, they wont take less than 10/hr UNDER THE TABLE OF COURSE, you have to buy them lunch, and you cannot even communicate to them what you need them to do - or, they stand outside one of the churches waiting for a free meal.  our countrys open door policy not only encourages the laziness of immigrants, but rewards them for it.  BS.  my grandparents came over from the czech republic, italy and poland - they all went to school, learned english and both of my grandfathers became surgeons, pilars of the community.  it isnt immigrants in general that are the problem - and im not saying its all hispanics either - but, if you want to live in this country you should learn to speak the language, educate yourself and your family and give something back to this great nation that took you under its wing.
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Hmmm, the information is in spanish from the Secretaría de Relaciones Exteriores. I include the site below.\n\nThere is a lot of information, but if you don't know spanish, I'll include some numbers.\n\n-----------------------------------------\nRegistry of people entering México:\n2003\nMexicans: 3,279,109\nForeigners: 16,722,883 \n\n2004\nMexicans: 3,434,188\nForeigners: 19,614,710\n\n2005\nMexicans: 4,428,437\nForeigners: 20,730,810\n\n--------------------\nRefugees accepted in 2005: 207\n\n-------------------\nNumber of foreigners with residence in Mexico in 2005: 3,445,083. (I didn't find the statistics, but over 1,000,000 were US citizens). In 2000 there were only 492,617 foreigners registered as legal residents. Almost a 700% growth in 5 years.\n\n------------------------------\n\nIn 2000, the number of mexicans emigrating to other countries was of 3,584,957. 1,569,157 of those were visiting the US. I don't have the return rate though, but I think it was around 30% - 40%.\n\n---------------------------------\n\nHope it helps
871826
What an informative article...but I am already against illegals in our country so this only reinforces not changes my stance.\n\nthanks!
656840
Yeah...I heard that one more than one news show. It is outrageous. These illegals and those who support them have some nerve. What court in the world would even listen to such a case? It is a clear example of how Mexico is not only doing nothing to help stop illegal activity but they are actually promoting and encouraging it.
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Right Back At You\n\n\n\nAs To The Reliability Of Your Data ....\nFrom The Small Print At The Bottom Of The Page\nOn The Link You Provided\n\nDisclaimer: \nThe nonpartisan Urban Institute \npublishes studies, reports, and books on timely topics \nworthy of public consideration. \nThe views expressed are those of the authors \nand should not be attributed \nto the Urban Institute, its trustees, or its funders.\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHere Is \n" a link to disspell all myths about " ILLEGAL ALIENS \nFor You\n\nRead It And Weep\n\nhttp://www.theamericanresistance.com/articles/art2004jan04.html\n\nMyths and lies of illegal immigration\nArticles\n\nBy Kathy McKee; \nJanuary 4, 2004; \npublished in The Sonoran News\n\nBecause the pro-illegal alien lobby \nhas a bottomless pit of money \nand can hire PR people to spin (and fabricate) \nanything any way, \nthere are an undue number of myths and lies \nthat the public (and many politicians) \nhas bought into. \n\nThe FACTS are: \n\n1. It is NOT racist to call these people "illegal aliens" \nIn fact, "illegal aliens" is the only term used \nin federal laws and regulations to describe criminals \n(and they ARE criminals) \nwho come into our country illegally. \nThey are not illegal immigrants, \nnot undocumented immigrants, \nnot migrant workers, \nand not day laborers - \nthey're ILLEGAL ALIENS. \n\n2. Mexico is NOT a poor country. \nBy sending its teeming masses to our country, \nthat status keeps on rising. \nMexico has more resources per square mile than the U.S. \nand plenty of money to take care of its own people. \nWhy should the taxpayers of this country \nsubsidize Mexico's corruption? \n\n3. Illegal aliens are NOT necessarily coming here to work. \nLou Dobbs recently reported that \n33 percent of our prison population \nis now comprised of non-citizens. \nPlus, \n36 to 42 percent of illegal aliens are on welfare. \nSo, for a good proportion of these people, \nthe American dream is crime and welfare, \nnot coming here to work. \n\n4. Illegal aliens are NOT doing work Americans won't do. \nWhat jobs won't Americans do? \nIn most states, \nAmericans still clean their own houses, \ndo their own landscaping, \nclean hotel rooms, \nwork in restaurants and fast food places, \npaint houses, \nDO CONSTRUCTION WORK, \nwork in airports, etc. - \njust like we have the past 200 years \nbefore "our" government allowed these people \nto invade our country. \nThere are 18 million Americans who cannot find a job, \nso illegal aliens who are coming here to work \ndo so at peril to American workers. \n\n5. Illegal aliens absolutely do not contribute more than they cost.\nCertainly the millions in prison and on welfare \naren't contributing a dime to our economy, \nand the ones who are working often are paid in cash \nwith no deductions for taxes at all. \nThe ones who use fraudulent social security numbers \nand qualify to pay taxes and social security \nhave so many deductions for dependents \nthat they pay little if any taxes. \nWe have seen them pay less than $100 in taxes \nand get back $4,000 refunds \n(thanks to earned income tax credits and multiple dependents).\n\nSome bargain, eh? \n\n6. The economy does NOT depend on illegal aliens. \nSure, greedy CEOs (making $50 to $150 MILLION a year) \nand business owners depend on illegal aliens, \nbut due to #3, #4 and #5 above, \nthe only thing illegal aliens are contributing to \nis the collapse of our economy \nand making the rich richer. \n\n7. Without illegal aliens, \nthe price of agricultural products \nand other goods and services will NOT soar. \nThe definitive study on this subject \nis the University of Iowa's "How Much Is That Tomato?" \nThe study concludes \nthat 'since labor is such a small component \nof the end-price of agricultural products \n(which includes price to the growers, \ntransportation costs, processing /storage costs, \ngrocers' profit, etc.), \nusi
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Yeah, I already knew this before the video.  Any non-illegals that marched are just sheep that dont understand the issue at all.  Its time to get all the Illegals sent home.  Legals are great, but our social structure cannot handle this flood of illegals.  Some good news- the INS just arrewsted 70 illegals from a single builder in the Cincinnati area yesterday, and they say that more arrests are coming at other builders shortly.  They also arrested a number of the Americans that hired them, and raided the coirporate HQ to get the financial records.  Hopefully they step up this initiative nationally, and really start throwing them out.
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Someone else posted this two link earlier on another question.  I think it should answer a lot, though certainly not all, of your questions.\n\nhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060521/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/mexico_limiting_immigrants\n\nOne link to start with, though I believe this one is written as to be ridiculously oversimplified:\n\nhttp://www.banderasnews.com/0508/nb-mexcitizen.htm\n\nA more in-depth article can be read at:\n\nhttp://www.bajainsider.com/baja-life/immigration/mexican-citizenship.htm\n\nI *particularly* like the part that states:\n\n"Along with this first rule a second one is composed of 3 conditions that one must respect: A) Speak Spanish; B) Have knowledge of the history of Mexico; C) Live with Mexican"\n\nWOW!  You mean in order to become a citizen of Mexico, I must speak the language, know the history and assimilate with the culture?!!  Yet, those who are coming here, legally or otherwise, expect the U.S. to cater to them by offering everything in Spanish as well as English.\n\nWell, now, if that isn't interesting!
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Mexican immigration laws have been made stronger as a result of cooperation with the United States, Mexico is doing the dirty work of the United States to prevent immigrants from other countries to use Mexico as a step to get to the United States.\n\nIf collaborating with the United States toward a common goal is hypocrisy, then I don't know what asking for those changes represent for the United States.
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I personally have suggested that we adopt the very same laws as they have within Mexico for this country - esp after Fox came here talking about how he didn't agree with what our congress was thinking of doing on the immigration bills.\n\nDouble standards bother me - which is maybe why so many of his citizens leave.  That and the free ride that they get over here.....
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It angers me that law abiding immigrants are being demonized the way they are.  They arent the problem the problem is and has been corporate outsourcing of jobs overseas.  The only problem I have is that because there are few incentives for these hard working immigrants to spread out they're not being thrown into learning english as well as years past.  By all means, come here, work hard, obey the law, spend money, and give your family a better life.
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Oh, my dear PANCHA...  You already know my stand on this,... but we'll 'dance' again...\n\nIt may very well be that many illegal immigrants don't understand the severity of their crime.  But that doesn't matter:\n\nIGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE...Period!  Without the 'Rule of Law', society would degrade into utter chaos.  \n\nImagine that I go into a parking lot and find your car, unlocked, and with the keys in it.  Does that mean that I'm suppose to drive it?  And if I take your car, get caught, and am charged with a crime,... would it be okay with you if I claim that I didn't understand how severe the crime was?;  that I decided to take the car because I wanted to get somewhere faster than walking, and the opportunity just presented itself? (...and yes, that IS a fair comparison).\n\nNo one should enter another STATE, much less another country, without being knowledgeable of the laws which apply to them.\n\nOne would think, given the overwhelming opinions against your rhetoric on this issue, that you would have 'seen the light' by now.\n\nBut PANCHA must, indeed, live in a  very dark and lonely place...
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I thought this was interesting, considering today's protest marches. \n\n"What Are the Immigrant Permits\n\nImmigrant Permits are issued to foreign nationals who have the intention of gaining permanent residency in Mexico. Under immigrant schemes, you are permitted to reside in the country, provided that you fulfil certain criteria (as specified by the type of permit) for a period of up to one year. The permit is renewable annually, for one year, for a further four years. At the end of the five year period, you automatically receive residency status, entitling you to full rights and benefits as any other Mexican Citizen, with the exception of the right to vote.\n\nUpon receiving this status, you will receive a document that looks like a Mexican Passport (called a "FM2") which enables you pass through Mexico's borders as if you were Mexican National. You do not need to surrender your national passport, and you use your own passport when you return to your home country, either for visits, or when returning home to dwell. If you stay outside of Mexico for longer than 2 years, or for 5 years in any 10 year period, you will lose your resident status in Mexico.\n\nBelow are the kinds of people who can apply for Immigrant Permits, with a view to taking up permanent residency in Mexico:\n\nRetirees \nInvestors \nProfessionals \nScientists & Technicians \nArtists and Sportspeople \n\n[TOP]\nRetirees\nIf you are over 50 years of age, and want to engage in "non remunerative activities" and you are receiving funds from abroad (from a pension or other investments or fixed income) at least to the value of 400 times the daily minimum daily wage per month and a further 200 times daily minimum wage per month for each dependent (e.g. spouse, children) then you can apply for a Retiree Immigration Permit. Read more about retirement in Mexico on Mexperience.\n[Back to Immigrant List]\n\nInvestors\nYou can receive an immigration permit if you are willing to invest your capital in Mexico. You investment can be directed at industry or services, and must equal a minimum of 40,000 times the minimum daily wage in Mexico City.\n[Back to Immigrant List]\n\nProfessionals\nIf you are a qualified professional, you can have your certificates validated by the Mexican Consulate and apply for an immigration permit to live in Mexico. You must be sponsored by a company who must satisfy the authorities that you are essential to their operative requirements.\n[Back to Immigrant List]\n\nScientists & Technicians\nIf you are involved in science, or are a qualified technician, whether commercially or for education, you can apply for an immigration permit in Mexico. You may need to be invited by one of the established scientific or technical organizations in Mexico.\n[Back to Immigrant List]\n\nArtists and Sportspeople\nThese people can apply for an immigration permit. Each case is considered individually and entry is at the Interior Ministry's discretion.\n[Back to Immigrant List] \n\nCan I be granted Mexican Citizenship?\n\nAcquiring Mexican Citizenship is an involved process, and it is not easy to do. As a minimum, you must have been living in Mexico for 5 years (2 years under special circumstances) and have resident status. Marriage to a Mexican national may allow Citizenship without the residency requirement. For matters concerning the acquisition of Mexican Citizenship, seek professional advice and contact your local Mexican Consulate. \n\nMexico has strict measures in its constitution dealing with immigration. Mexican law classifies all illegal immigrants as felons, subject to a two-year prison sentence plus deportation. As a point of information, Mexico deports more illegals than the US. \n\nMexico posts its military on both the north and south borders to prevent people from sneaking into the country. These measures are in stark contrast from what Mexico advocates the U.S. to do. \n\nMexico also has a law making exiting the c
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The border policy is bull. And honestly, it's in the news and all, but the people I talk to in Southern California.. we don't care! It's just the media hype making it out to be a bigger deal than it is (I hope). To get a little stereotypical, what would we possibly do without Mexicans?? Honestly, who would cook, clean, cut grass, wash the dishes, and do all the other jobs that nobody else wants?? And they are not stealing our jobs, because nobody wants them! And if a Mexican is smart enough to compete with us for jobs (not saying they aren't, many many are!) then that is great! Who are we to decide who gets what? Honestly, the crimes that some of them commit aren't enough to deport an entire group of people. And finally, for the kicker.. WE ALL ENTERED THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY! I hate that argument, but honestly, it is true.
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I'm so sick of people assuming that, because I am anti-ILLEGAL immigration, that I'm racist and anti-Mexican. First of all, I'm not racist against anyone and second of all, like many people in my position, I'm against ILLEGAL immigrants from ANY country, not just Mexico. Anyone who comes to this country (no matter their country of origin) without following the legal channels is breaking the law...it's that simple. It's easy for those illegal immigrants to claim racism because it diffuses the attention away from the real problem...which is the fact that they're breaking the law everyday that they stay in our country without obtaining proper LEGAL documentation. \n\nSince when is it a bad thing to expect the citizens of this country to be law-abiding?
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August 24, 2000 ( < Notice The Date)\nWeb posted at: 6:12 p.m. EDT (2212 GMT)\nhttp://archives.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/americas/08/24/fox.us.04/\n\nFox calls for freer flow of legal immigrants, investment between U.S. and Mexico\nLooks to open doors between northern neighbors\n\nWASHINGTON -- Mexican President-elect Vicente Fox on Thursday called on the United States to spend less defending its southern border and more on investing in Mexico so that Mexicans won't feel the need to migrate north of the border. \n\nThe Last Ten Words Of That Phrase Makes Me LMFAOff\n\n\nA close, personal friendship with President George W. Bush has given Mexicos President Vicente Fox the opportunity to purposely allow (or even send) Millions of Criminals, Thugs, Anarchists, and Potential Terrorists to swarm over our southern border in breathtaking numbers. \n(Nearly half of all Illegal Aliens currently living in the U.S. came here since Bush became president in 2000.) \n\n\nShort Answer - With Troops On The Border, Foxes Whole Plan Gets Shot To Hell\n\nHes Been Working Very Hard For 6 Years, \nSending His Poverty To Us, \nSo He Wouldnt Have To Develop His Nation\n\nHe WILL Be Very Vocal About This\nAs He Has Been In The Past \nRegarding U.S.Immigration Policies\n\nFolks.........(For The Past 25 Years Or So) The U.S. is being Invaded by People from Another Nation - Ever Since REAGAN Granted Amnesty To 2.7 Million In 1986, They HAVE NOT STOPPED COMING!!! .\n\nOn January 9, 2004, President Bush proposed a guest worker program - a thinly veiled amnesty for illegal aliens. \nA February 29, 2004, Fox News article subsequently stated that from 50 percent to 90 percent of illegal aliens apprehended claimed they were coming here for the "amnesty" (their words). One Border Patrol officer stated that "They believe that they are only responding to an invitation." \n\nEl Presidente Vicente Fox's administration has embraced this reality. In fact, increasing the number of Mexicans working illegally in the United States is among Mexico's highest foreign policy objectives. \n\nThus, in orchestrating this war on America, the Mexican state is representing the desires of the Mexican people as a whole. \n\nWhat are these desires? \n\n(1) Political revanchism—to regain control of the territories Mexico lost to the U.S. in 1848, thus avenging themselves for the humiliations they feel they have suffered at our hands for the last century and a half; \n\n(2) Cultural imperialism—to expand the Mexican culture and the Spanish language into North America; and especially \n\n(3) Economic parasitism—to maintain and increase the flow of billions of dollars that Mexicans in the U.S. send back to their relatives at home every year, \n(39 BILLION US DOLLARS) \nA major factor keeping the chronically troubled Mexican economy afloat and the corrupt Mexican political system cocooned in its status quo. \n\nThese motives are shared by the Mexican masses and the elites. \n\nAccording to a Zogby poll in 2002, 58 percent of the Mexican people believe the U.S. Southwest belongs to Mexico, and 57 percent believe that Mexicans HAVE THE RIGHT TO FREELY ENTER the United States without U.S. permission. Only small minorities disagreed with these propositions.