eye for an eye in the talmud?
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yeah sorry I did not answer your question very well the last time if you said it was for a davar Torah then it would have been better.\n\nAs for embarrassment or as it is called in the Talmud boshes\n\nit is a general category for things like punitive damages. For example, If you are a political figure and I were to give you a scar across your face it would be an "embarrassment" to you especially in your field. The Talmud quantifies this type of payment by asking how much the individual would have payed to avoid the public or personal embarrassment.\n\nI will try to find more and give you some references
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Yes, I was always amazed about this. Even more intersting is it takes about one whole year for one Torah. I always feel a great deal of respect for these people who dedicate their lifes to this cause and can sit hours one this very detailed work. I know I couldn't.\n\n     I am sure the text is accuate. I respect these people beyond doubt. The debates are from two sources. \n\n     First, what the text means. This is commonly addressed by rabbis and the different interperatations are generaly included in bar/bat mitzvah speeches to show the understanding of the Torah and their knowledge.\n\n     Secound, is the despite popular belief, the language translation from Hebrew to English. While two words may have the same connotation the annotaion may be different. Also langeges evolve over time. See http://www.webster.com/help/faq/etymology.htm\n\n\nOk I'm curious... Schneb. What religion are you? (Schneb sounds Jewish but I tought you were christian) If you don't want to tell its ok as it make no difference to my response.
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If everyone took the bible literally this world would be quite an unpleasant place to be lol.  The phrase "an eye for an eye" has been misinterpreted...if someone gouged your eye out do you really want that person to give you their gouged eye? lol...i hope not lol it just means you have to substitute the loss with some kind of compensation hehe and then feel really bad for gouging someone's eye out in the first place =P
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According to Judaic law, forty lashes with a whip was the most anyone could be sentenced to, as it was believed that anyting more could pbe lethal, and scourging was meant to be a non-lethal form of corporal punishment.  Frequently, to prevent a miscount, only 39 stroke were actually administered.\n\nNow, it refers to any harsh sort of punishment, but particularly verbal, similar to the term 'tongue lashing'.
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I just saw this version on the newly released DVD:\n\n"And the prophet said: 'And lo, the beast looked upon the face of beauty. And it stayed its hand from killing. And from that day it was as one dead.' 'Old Arabian proverb.'"
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It's a quote:\n\nexodus 21:23  And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,\n21:24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,\n\nLev. 24:20  Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.\n\nDeut. 19:21  And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.\n\nMatt 5:38  Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:\n5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
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The eye of the beholder.
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There are four references to the phrase "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" in the Bible. These are in Exodus 21:24, Leviticus 24:20, Deuteronomy 19:21, and Matthew 5:38.\n\nThe verses are (NIV)\n\nExodus 21:24 - eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot; \nExodus 21:23-25 (in Context) Exodus 21 (Whole Chapter) \n\nLeviticus 24:20 - fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the other, so he is to be injured. \nLeviticus 24:19-21 (in Context) Leviticus 24 (Whole Chapter) \n\nDeuteronomy 19:21- Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.\nDeuteronomy 19:20-22 (in Context) Deuteronomy 19 (Whole Chapter) \n\nMatthew 5:38 - [ An Eye for an Eye ] "You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' \nMatthew 5:37-39 (in Context) Matthew 5 (Whole Chapter)
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Scripture says, "Blindness has happened to them in part, till the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled." If not for their stubborn pride, we'd not have a chance for salvation. The Gospel is still "to the Jew 1st & then to the gentile." The 1/3 left after the Tribulation, will be saved in one day, "When they look upon Him, Whom they pierced."
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The bible may say an eye for an eye. But one of the 10 commandments is Thou shalt not kill. No exceptions!
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They aren't from the same source.  Eye-for-and-eye was written by ancient Jews 700 or more years before "turn the other cheek" was written.\n\nThe Bible records disparate and evolving concepts about god over the course of about 900 years.
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Contra Richard, I think there ARE times in Jewish Law when one must choose to break one law to uphold a greater one.  In the case of a law from the Torah versus a rabbinic law, the law from the Torah is always upheld.  In other cases, a rabbi needs to be consulted.\n\nBut in the case you have delineated, I can't see that either of the laws needs to be broken.  However, I do not know much about male "needs" and I guess it is possible that a man can be so driven with desire that he feels he must have some release.  In that case, MY intuition says it would be better for him to pleasure himself than to commit adultery or fornication - because to do the latter means he is involving someone else in his transgression.  But I am not a Rabbi, and I do not know all the nuances of the Laws, so that is why I say to consult a rabbi.
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A eye for a eye, a tooth for a tooth.
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It's no mystery.  The old testament covers Jewish morality.  Start with the ten commandments, for example.  You know Jewish morality already, you just don't realize it.
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No.......eye for an eye
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Interesting, but my translation says "God takes his stand in his own congregation".  (New American Standard).  We would need to discuss it with an expert in ancient hebrew to form an informed opinion, so take it easy.
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Some pious (Chassidic) Jews wear long sidelocks because they interpret the law to mean that one may not shave the temple at all.\n\nIn addition to the influence of Torah on appearance, there are those Jews who wear a beard and sideburns because they want to appear Jewish.\n\nThis means that those Jews who display Jewish hairstyles and clothes attain existential validation in the same fashion as those who wear a uniform or those who display a symbol such as a Mogen David or a cross on their lapel. Existential validation is sought by all of us as we seek to present ourselves to others in everyday life. The presentation which we promote leads to the “looking glass self”, as Cooley called it. What we wear, what we say, how we confront others is reflected in the manner which others exhibit toward us. Hence the “looking glass” self. Therefore, the Jew who wears a distinctively Jewish form of attire seeks to be treated as a Jew.\n\nWe Jews are of course not the only ones to wear beards and ear locks and black clothes. Some fundamentalist Christians do this also. So the story is told of the Jewish woman who meets a man on a train. The man wears a black hat and black suit. A “secular” Jew, she berates the man and says: “You orthodox Jews embarrass us all. Your clothes and beard cause anti-Jewish hatred.” “ I am not Jewish,” says the man. “I am Amish and we wear black clothes and beards. It is our tradition.” “Of course,” says the Jewish secularist. “You have every right to wear such clothes and you are to be commended for carrying on your cultural tradition.”