why do people think goths are satanists??
462968
Because peple are afraid of what they dont understand. Take the Muslims... who understands why they do what they do? and now the whole world has to live in fear of the stupid suicide bombers etc etc etc!
107010
Slipknot isn't into Satanism. They are simply more or less anti-religion, or anti-Christianity in general. Now bands like Slayer use Satanism as a gimic, i.e. they are metal, rebellious, anti-religion, thus it is cool to have Satanically laced lyrics. Then there are bands like Deicide who actually contain practicing Satanists. Hence, since they are practicing their lyrics would definitely reflect that. Anyway, I hope that clears crap up.
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You know who they are. They're people like Billy Graham, Oral Roberts, Pat Robertson, etc.  They're actually Satanists. They only preach their BS to fool the masses of asses, aka - "Christians", who blaspheme God by claiming He loves them more than anything else.
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There are different "denominations" of Satanism.  In some, the followers do not even believe in Satan.  They use the term symbolically and probably for shock value.  Others do believe in Satan or a being similar to Satan.  Some call themselves Satanists who do not belong to a specific denomination, but rather use the term for shock, and to express themselves in a certain way about society.  Many teenagers are this last type of "Satanic" and it usually just means they are into a certain type of music, wear a certain type of clothes, and are anti-establishment.\n\nhttp://www.religioustolerance.org/satanism.htm
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for the most part, lavey satanism is a parody religion.  its aim is to be totally counter and opposite to christianity
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This depends on the context. There are those who believe in Satan as portrayed in the Bible, and worship the character as a real being. This can involve the recitation of black masses, and the eating of "black hosts", desecration and destruction of Christian property and icons, and so on. \n\nMost modern Satanists regard this kind of behaviour as very peurile and silly though - indeed, the official Church of Satan doesn't even believe in Stand as a literal being, but as the personification of all the natural instincts of the animal that is man. Hence their creed is simply "Do what you will shall be the whole of the law" - essentially an individualist and self-reliant approach to life, unbound by any moral codes that do not equate with their own sense of self. They see Satan as the ultimate personification of individuality and strength, compared with the systemised obedience without thought that is the traditional Christian faith.\n\nEssentially, this second type of Satanists are not necessarily bad people. The first lot though probably just need to get out and get laid more often.
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Depends on which form of "Satanism" you're referring to.\n\nWhat most people think of as Satanism is the rather pedestrian schmucks who worshop the christian devil. They apparently believe in the trinity and all that rot, since they're rebelling against it. They really just reverse christian ceremonies. They tend to be harmless kooks that think they're being extremely naughty by saying the lord's prayer backward and screwing on church altars...\n\nModern Satanism, or LaVey Satanism, was conceived by Anton Szandor LaVay back in the 70s. LaVey Satanism rejects the idea of the christian god and all the associated mythology and asserts that the force they call Satan is the only power. The Satan of the LaVey Satanist is more like the Force in the Star Wars films, the sum total of all life and nature on the planet.\n\nHowever, LaVey admits that the entire religion is just to satisfy the apparent human need for dogma. Satan was chosen as its figurehead, because he is a symbol of opposition to the tyranny and just poor ideas of the christians and their ilk.\n\nThink of LaVey Satanism as rehab for recovering jesus freaks. Gives them some dogma to follow, teaches self-reliance and self respect, then will hopefully lead to the rejection of all religion so that one can then get on with the business of living one's life.
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I thought HIM was a christian band. Maybe not, I don't know. Besides, vampires aren't necessarily satanic. The vampire lore comes from many different countries, christian or not, and does not really have any specific origins in christian folklore. In fact the vampire myths are so ancient that they surpass christianity in age. So you can tell him that. \nBut I don't think you're going to persuade your friend. No offense but he sounds a bit um...closeminded. And if a band sings about a vampire, that doesn't mean they like vampires either.\nBy the way, I just looked at their website and the symol is very very similar to the satanic symbol, which was stolen from witchcraft by the way. Satanists are so unorginal.\nBut no, the symbol isn't exactly the same, because the top parts don't end in points like they should.\n\nThis is the satanic symbol as it should appear.\nhttp://www.religion-spirituality.org/images/satanismsymbol.gif\n\nSo you see, they are similar, but the one for HIM isn't close enough (for me at least) to consider them satanic.\n\nMy mistake. The orignal one I had a link to was freemason.Oopsy.
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They are deceived into thinking that satan will give them powers and places in hell. They also have their own bible written by Anton Lavey. They also think that hell isn't a place of torment and suffering. They all believe in God too but choose satan instead.\ni knew of a satanist that sacrificed himself on the train tracks because satan promised him a position in hell
1008554
NO- atheist does not mean satanist (if you are equating that to evil). A belief system is sacred. I applaud anyone that takes the time to sort things out and not blindly follow the theology (or lack there of)  of their parents/friends/whatever. I occasionally wonder if those that do the right thing because it is the right thing and not to attain entrance into heaven more commendable.  If you are talking about someone who believes in nothing and therefore cares about nothing I'm not sure I would consider them "good"--- but who determines "evil" anyway.
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Satanism is a religious, semi-religious and/or philosophical movement whose adherents recognize Satan as an archetype, pre-cosmic force, or some aspect of human nature. Although named for Satan, a name associated with evil and temptation, Satanism is more commonly the name given to certain spiritual paths which emphasize the Left-Hand Path, as opposed to the much more common Right-Hand Path. Left-Handers believe in spiritual enrichment through their own work on themselves, and that ultimately they are answerable only to themselves, while Right-Handers believe in spiritual enrichment through the dissolution or submission of the self to (or into) something greater. Many Satanists do not in fact worship a deity called Satan, or necessarily any other deity, nor do they follow a principle of evil. This aspect of their beliefs is very commonly misunderstood.\nThis is very different to people who worship Satan, these are usually emotionally immature people, because obviously satan doesn't want to be worshipped by the creatures he despises.
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to start, being a "satanist" doesn't mean you're a stan worshipper. in fact, satanists don't believe in satan at all. they beleive that they are in charge of their own fate and destiny, and cannot be controlled by a "higher power". They are called satanists because their beliefs mimick Lucifer, the angel who disobeyed god and took charge of his own destiny, becoming satan. now, back to the question, although this is speculation (based on interviews, but, for all i know, it's just an act), the band Mayhem claim to be real satan workshippers, Marilyn Manson is not.
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Well, the Church of Satan was founded in 1966, so I'd have to say no.  Satanism is a new belief system that doesn't worship Satan at all.  I know, crazy isn't it?  Anton LaVey founded it and called it Satanism to freak out the hippies and the folks in middle America.   \n\nThe Catholic church actually founded a form of Satanism in the 16th century.  I guess LaVey was right, Satan is the church's best friend.  Essentially, it was their justification for killing a bunch of people.
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People are afraid of what they don't understand.  The majority, unfortunately, think that Goths are all dark, depressed, devil-worshiping crazy people with too much eyeliner and snake tattoos.  Although some follow this stereo-type on the outside, most are rather optimistic and can see things differently, and often times, more beautifully than most.  Their whole fascination with death is actually a way of looking at life.  Instead of shaking a fist at the sky, they try to understand pain and death and are more comfortable with it.\nPerhaps the actual word Goth has a lot to do with this misconception.  The name of the Germanic tribes that overthrew the Roman Empire was Visigoth. From this source arose the concept of a Goth as an uncivilized person, a barbarian.  \nPeople simply need to have a more open-mind.  I personally don’t find anything wrong with Goths.  It’s those who live up to the stereo-type that give it its bad name.\nAnd no, there is absolutely no excuse for treating someone badly just because they are 'different.'
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Welcome to the wonderful world of stereotyping! I am GodlyGothboy, and I will be your tour guide today. I am a Goth by way of style. I am also a Christian. People, some in my church, have called me a satan worshiper, a rebel, an evil person, a witch, etc. That is what we call stereotyping. I'm sure you are a very nice person, and you just have to get used to people being that way toward you.\nSorry, but its just the way things are!
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Actually, most goths do have friends. Certain kinds of people annoy other kinds of people. And as for keeping some secrets from other people, that's known as prudence. How many secrets do you have at your age? And what kind of 'goth' goes on Yahoo! and hints with all the subtlety of a hammer to the kneecap that they have 'secrets'?
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Would you judge someone for wearing a suit? I wouldn't "judge them", but people were clothes to make a point. if your going to the trouble of dressing like a goth, then you WANT people to know it, and you can't blame them for having an opinion about it.