11 jmillion unregistered aliens in the U.S. - can or do they join the U.S. armed forces?
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No! many soldiers that died in Nam were not US citizens. Illegals have to have a valid work permit to join also there is an extensive background check by the FBI before you take the oath to defend this country.
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If you refuse to register, it will hurt you for future employment (you can not register after the age of 26) due to many employers requiring proof of registration. Immigrants that do not register while processing for citizenship will not be granted citizenship. You can be refused federal grants, loans (including student loans) and can also interfere with purchasing a home. It is a misdemeanor offense in most states, a felony in some.\n\nI don't know why anyone would worry about it. There is no draft, and probably won't be, unless the protesters stop people from enlisting.
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THEY WILL FIND OUT!\n\nI WAS IN THE NAVY FOR 4 YRS AND WE HAD A CAT COME IN TO THE SQUADRON AND STATE THAT HE WAS FROM SAN DIEGO (MADE UP GREEN CARD) AND IT CAME OUT IN THE WASH A BIT DOWN THE ROAD AND THEY DEPORTED HIS ASS!\n\nSO YES THEY WILL FIND OUT!\n\nHOWEVER YOU CAN JOIN THE SERVICE AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF BECOMING A LEGAL CITIZEN. I WAS THE LEGAL YEOMAN OF MY SQUADRON AND WE HAD A FEW FOLKS LIKE THAT SOME FROM THE PHILLIPINES ETC.  SIT DOWN WITH YOUR RECRUITER THEY HAVE WAVERS FOR THINGS YOU KNOW!  IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS LADY JUST LET ME KNOW!\n\nGOOD LUCK
911576
doubt you can do that.most are already retired and i'm guessing the rest already might have tried to serve in the armed forces and were rejected for some reason. Or maybe they served already and didn't renew their service contract,so they shouldn't be forced to serve if they don't wish to.unless of course congress does reinstate the draft and then everyone is fair game.
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i'd join-i'd love american citizenship without goin through the very expensive visa process that takes months n months
1109537
Gee... lets see, renounce your US citizenship, attempt to get an Australian citizenship, apply for boot camp with the Australian Army. Maybe if you get through all of these, then you will be accepted into their Army. \n\nBut, why?
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Yes, you can enlist in the USAF.  It's a common misconception that you must be a US citizen to enlist in the US military.  That said, if you are not a US citizen many career fields are closed to you as they require a security clearance which is only given to US citizens.\n\nServing in the US military is a fast-track to US citizenship as well.  I believe that you can complete the necessary steps in 2 years if you are serving on active duty, vs 4 to 5 years as a civilian.  The rules were also changed a number of years ago so even if you are stationed outside the US (but NOT in the country of your nationality) that time counts as resident in the US for citizenship purposes.\n\nYou should keep an important fact in mind, however.  If you do not become a US citizen during your first term of service (normally 4 years) you will NOT be allowed to re-enlist.  For this reason, a 2-year Army enlistment is a bad idea.  Even a 4-year enlistment is actually cutting it close as you generally must be eligible for re-enlistment about 13 months prior to the end of your first term of service or you will be projected for separation on your expiration of term of service (ETS).  Since you must be a citizen to be eligible for re-enlistment you actually only have 35 months to complete citizenship.  Deduct 6 months from that for Basic Training, Tech School and On the Job Training at your first duty station (You'll be WAY to busy to work on citizenship training!) and your left with 29 months -- 5 months leeway.\n\nI've known and counselled many young men and women on this in my 21 years of service, and watched a few who did not know the rules be forced out because they didn't become citizens in time, or didn't want to become US citizens.\n\nAnd one final observation.  Most of the young Canadians that I worked with on getting their US citizenship absolutely sailed through the learning and testing requirements.  Seems that you folks get a better education in US government and history than many American youth.
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By HOPE YEN, Associated Press Writer 5 minutes ago \nWASHINGTON - \nPersonal data, including\nSocial Security numbers of 26.5 million U.S. veterans was stolen from a Veterans Affairs employee this month after he took the information home without authorization, the department said Monday. \nLast year, more than 260,000 veterans could not sign up for services because of cost-cutting. Audits also have shown the agency used misleading accounting methods and lacked documentation to prove its claimed savings."\n\nWell, this administration appears to have issues without having anything stolen.\n\nThose in the service 1975 and after are many military who were in quite a few skirmishes that the government had, including those in Iraq.\n\nI hope they have hard copies somewhere, which they probably don't. Proving a negative is going to be hard for a lot of men who are eligible for benefits. How do you get benefits if you can't prove you are eligible for them? It will be up to the serviceman to prove, Hate to be them.\n\n26.5 MILLION RECORDS from 1975 to present
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no.  in order to enlist in any branbch of th emilitary you must be a LEGAL permanent resident with a green card.
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It is possible for immigrants to gain admission to the US aremed forces. I have served with quite a few. However, not an illegal immigrant. There aren't FBI clearance checks for entry, but there is a very rigorous background check. Including an AFIS and NCIC checks, DMV check and the one most any illegal will fail, is the most simple. The records from the high school they graduated from. No diploma, no entry. Yes there are exceptions, called a GED window, but your high school transcripts must be included with the GED certification. There is a minimalist background investigation, but it is there nontheless. But no. There are not illegal immigrants in the US armed forces, and anyone who says so is simply misinformed. I spent 12 years of my life in an intel unit, providing preliminary background checks to the FBI for securuity clearance investigations. The process for entry alone prohibits their entry. There are just too many different things they would have to fake, and it would be the little things that would get them caught. And the penalties for trying to enlist as an illegal are very severe. VERY severe. Crimes against the State, Federal Penitentiary, Leavenworth Ks., severe. That's why I can say there are NO illegal immigrants in the service. If they are there illegally, they have a new title. They are promoted instantly from illegal alien status to spy. \nDon't believe everything you hear. YES there is a legal way to enlist, if you are from a foreign nation. And it's NOT that hard to do. If you're serious about enlisting, I would strongly suggest you contact the area MEPS (Military Enlistment Processing Station) and ask to speak to the NCOIC about advice as to what you would require. It sounds to me like the recruiter you spoke with simply doesn't want to have to deal with the added paperwork. Here on a student visa? Explore joining the ROTC program at your school, also.\nI wish you the best of luck.
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Probably none, since a valid Social Security number is required.\n\nWhy not immigrate legally, to avoid having to worry about things like this?
690507
Were your parents working on base or American Military. If not in military, you would not be a citizen. Try the American Embassy. They can usually find paperwork on all foreign born citizens.
101444
Ignore that hate monger.  I knew a lot of people when I was in the military that were Mexican citizens.  They were able to apply for citizinship faster.  I went to boot camp in the United states Marine Corps with some of them.  Look into military service.
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ok, this is for all the people guessing here\n\nYOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE A UNITED STATES CITIZEN TO BE IN THE UNITED STATES MILITARY. \nI know plenty of people in the US military that are not Citizens. \nNot being a Citizen will restrict him from certain jobs, but he can join.\n\nHave your son call up an Army recruiter, and you'll know all the facts.
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That is not easy. Your employer would have to do a ton of paperwork to get you in. But military might do this, keeping you as interpreter/analyst or whatever you are doing there. \n\nAside from that, you could try to claim polical asylum, i.e. state and prove that you will be abused for cooperating with intruders once US forces leave.
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In the U.S. we have an all volunteer military so this would not apply to those who volunteer to serve.  When we had a Draft it was a felony to refuse induction.
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I'm not sure of the exact steps. But you might want to talk to a Navy recruiter. I had several people I worked with enter the Navy medical corps and they were not citizens yet. They were refugees from Africa. But by entering the military they were able to have their citizenship sped up.