If God actually is real, and prayer gives him the option to choose - Why did he savagely kill 6 million Jews?
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An amusing little question.  It could be said that god demanded the six million as down payment for allowing the State of Israel to be (re)created.  After all, when he first gave the land to the Jews he demanded that they exterminate the native population.
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http://WhatJewsBelieve.org\n\nNone of the Real Prophecies concerning the messiah have been fulfilled by Jesus.\n\nThe basic beliefs of Christianity about Jesus are against what the Bible says, and so Real Jews cannot believe in Jesus at all.\n\nThe Christian understanding is that the Messiah, Jesus, died for the sins of the people. The messiah is supposed to be a human sacrifice that is the blood sacrifice necessary for the forgiveness of sin.\n\nBut we are taught in our Torah that no one can die for the sins of another. In Deuteronomy 24:16 it specifically says this:\n\nDeuteronomy 24:16 The fathers shall not \nbe put to death for the children, neither \nshall the children be put to death for\nthe fathers: \nevery man shall be put to death for his \nown sin (eesh b’chet-o yumatu).\n\nIn Exodus 32:30-35, Moses tries to offer himself to atone for the sins of the people. To be written out of Gd's book, means to be written out of the Book of Life, which means Moses was asking to die for the sins of the People. Gd's response is No, it does not work that way, each man dies for his own sin:\n\nExodus 32:30-35 And it came to pass on the \nmorrow, that Moses said unto the people, \nYe have sinned a great sin: and now I will \ngo up unto the Etrnl; perhaps I shall make \nan atonement for your sin. And Moses \nreturned unto the Etrnl, and said, Oh, \nthis people have sinned a great sin, and \nhave made them gods of gold. Yet now, if \nthou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, \nblot me, I pray thee, out of thy book \nwhich thou hast written. And the Etrnl \nsaid unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned \nagainst me, him will I blot out of my \nbook. \n\nThe whole of chapter 18 of the book of Ezekiel is about this idea, that no one can die for someone else's sin. Further, this chapter of Ezekiel teaches us that all we have to do for Gd's forgiveness is to stop doing the Bad and start doing the Good, and Gd will forgive us:::\n\nEzekiel 18:1-4; 20-24; 26-27 .....Behold, all \nsouls are mine; as the soul of the father, so \nalso the soul of the son is mine: the soul \nthat sinneth, it shall die. Eze 18:20 The soul \nthat sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not \nbear the iniquity of the father, neither shall \nthe father bear the iniquity of the son: the \nrighteousness of the righteous shall be upon \nhim, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be \nupon him. But if the wicked will turn from all \nhis sins that he hath committed, and keep all \nmy statutes, and do that which is lawful and \nright, he shall surely live, he shall not die. \nAll his transgressions that he hath committed, \nthey shall not be mentioned unto him: in his \nrighteousness that he hath done he shall live. \nHave I any pleasure at all that the wicked \nshould die? saith the Etrnl Gd: and not that \nhe should return from his ways, and live?.... \nEze 18:26 When a righteous man turneth away \nfrom his righteousness, and committeth \niniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity \nthat he hath done shall he die. Again, when \nthe wicked man turneth away from his \nwickedness that he hath committed, and doeth \nthat which is lawful and right, he shall save \nhis soul alive. \n\nSo, the Bible is clear, no one can die for the sins of another, and this means that Jesus cannot die for anyone else's sins.\n\nChristians also believe that one needs a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin, that one who does not have such a blood sacrifice will die in their sins, and go to hell, except for the sacrifice of Jesus.\n\nThis, too, is UnBiblical. The Bible describes blood sacrifices for the forgiveness of sin in the Book of Leviticus. But it is in Leviticus itself, in the middle of the discussion of the sin sacrifices, that we are taught that we do not need a blood sacrifice to be forgiven for our sins. Offering a blood sacrifice was an expensive thing to do for the family offering the animal. Was forgiveness then, to be only for the rich? No, because if one cou
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Because that "God" in Jeremiah 13:14 is the Lord, God of Israel. That "God" is not the same God who created humans or is it the same God who created the entire universe. They are all different. The Lord, God of Israel is actually Satan, the fallen angel. Satan is an alien from heaven and is obsessed with control and power over humans. In the case of the biblical story you brought up, Satan is concerned with collecting all the gold and treasures from all the people he ordered massacred. Reread the story again with this explanation in mind and it will make sense. Satan is still concerned with hoarding gold to this day. The followers of that "God" are actually Satanist working for a real alien (or angel). There is nothing spiritual about the mass killings of women, children, and babies; it is just, quite simply, a factual account of a greedy, gold hungry alien passing as a 'god' to humans who willing do his bidding in exchange for worldly policical powers. These Satanist are behind almost all the world events of modern times. But don't be scared, their time is almost up and they will soon be at our feet (Rev 2:9 and 3:9). And the creator God of human beings will be returning! (Rev 20-22) That is the Good News of the Bible.
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well let's put it this way.  God swore to defend the jews for all time. a promise from the Almighty Himself. And no one is in combat like israel these days. they don't take sh*t from anyone!!!! so if war, in itself, were intrinsically evil, God would have allowed the demise of israel (and the US for that matter) long ago for all the wars they have been in.\n\nGod does NOT want or desire war in any way!! however, he does not desire you to just passively let people hurt you. would God expect you to let a starnge man rape and murder you child????
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If someone kills in the name of God, they have been duped.  They fell victim to irrational thinking.  The god they serve is not God the creator (the giver of LIFE), but rather the god of death (Satin).  God promotes life. "Be fruitful and multiply."  God promises everlasting life, sent Jesus to overcome death.  Why would God go through all the trouble of creating life only to have others destroy it?  Makes no sense.
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God had a choice. he chose to send them to Hell
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>why is killing non-muslims Godly?<\n\nIt isn't\n\nIn Sura 9 Muslims are encouraged to fight Jews and Christians because their prophet had a problem with them [Jews and Christians]\n\n>if allah is god<\n\nAllah isn't actually God he is a demon come as light - if you look at Jehovah in the Old and New Testaments - Allah is the exact opposite and as God says in Malachi 3:6 - 'I am the LORD Thy God I change not' - then Allah can't be truly God!\n\n>could it be he isn't what people think he is?<\n\nIt's satan who comes as an angel of light sometimes!\n\nJEHOVAH/YAHWEH/EL SHADDAI etc [these are the true God's names] is the only one true God!
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Some things you need to think practically about. Why would God need to have a billion son's if one son could do the job of redeeming all of us? Besides, you've missed the point. The one Son made it possible for all of us to be the Father's adopted children. So, in one very real sense God does have billions upon billions of children.\n   May the Lord bless and keep you. May He let the light of His face shine upon you.\n                                 God's and your beast of burden\n                                                   Fr. john
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God killed them, he killed lots of people, just not directly. If you don't believe me, look at the flood, Sodom, etc.\nGod did not kill his children directly, but if God is all-powerful he could have stopped it, but he chose not too. Call it a master plan.
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Did God create murderers to keep the population under control?
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The previous poster is incorrect.  Christ was and is perfect.  If He weren't then He couldn't have died for anyone's sins, thus negating Christianity altogether.\n\nTo answer your question, let's get a few things straight.  Inciting a riot means that you're trying to get others to engage in violence along with you.  There's no evidence of that in this story.\n\nAlso, you imply that the Romans had set up shops in the Temple.  There's no reason to believe that.  It's much more likely that these were Jewish merchants selling to Jews.  Therefore there would be no central authority to negotiate with.\n\nThere is such a thing as righteous anger.  Christ entered the temple and saw how it had been so cheapened that commerce was going on within its walls, dishonoring God.  He became appropriately angry and wouldn't tolerate it for a moment longer.  The Temple was a place to worship God, not profit on His name.\n\nI don't think it's at all comparable to the suicide bombers and such you see in the Middle East.  Jesus didn't harm anybody physically.  His anger was directly aimed at those who were dishonoring God.  He wasn't trying to create terror, He was forcefully demonstrating how objectionable this practice was to God.\n\nPeace doesn't mean passively accepting an unacceptable situation.
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God still talks to anyone who will listen. He loves everyone of every race, nationality, religion... In fact, Revelation 14:6 says that just before Jesus comes an angel (messenger) flies in the midst of heaven with the everlasting gospel (good news) to preach to every nation, tribe, language, and people. That doesn't leave ANYONE out!\n\nNow, to your question about the Jewish nation and the tapestry...\n\nGod had chosen the Jews to be His special people, and they were to be a representation to the world of His character. They didn't exactly fill His desires for them throughout the ages. In fact, tthey came to be quite an embarrasement, yet He still loved them. While they were in captivity in Babylon, God gave the prophet Daniel a vision telling him what would happen with the Jewish people.\n\nDaniel 9:24 says that there would be 70 weeks determined (the Greek word means "cut off") for the Jewish people. Verse 25 gives the start date for this time period - the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem. There were 3 commands given saying the Jews could go back to Jerusalem (you can read about these in the book of Ezra), but only one authorized the rebuilding of the city, and that was given in 457 BC. \n\nVerse 25 says that from that command to restore and build Jerusalem unto Messiah ("Anointed One") the Prince would be 69 weeks, and then verse 26 says that in the middle of that 70th week, the Messiah would be "cut off" and put an end to the sacrifice and oblation.\n\nBefore going any farther, read Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6, where you see that in prophecy a day equals a year. So, these weeks that we are talking about can be multiplied by seven to give us the days, and then those days are actually years. So, 70 weeks would equal 490 years (70 x 7). And the 69 weeks equal 483 years.\n\nSure enough, if you go to that start date of 457 BC when the command was given to rebuild Jerusalem and go forward 483 years, you land on 27 AD, the exact year that Jesus was baptized and anointed by the Holy Spirit for His ministry. Then, it says that in the middle of that next week Jesus would be "cut off", or killed, but not for Himself. If a week equals 7 years, then the middle of that week would be 3 1/2 years. Sure enough, exactly 3 1/2 years after his fall baptism in 27 AD, Jesus was crucified in the spring of 31 AD. \n\nThis is where the TAPESTRY comes in. At Jesus' death, the curtain, a 4" tapestry, that divided the rooms in the sanctuary was torn top to bottom (Mark 15:37,38). This made it clear to everyone that the sanctuary services pointing forward to the Messiah were no longer necessary, as Jesus had just died and fulfilled every service that happened there. He was the Lamb killed for the sins of the world, and there was no longer a need for sacrifices.\n\nHowever, the Jewish nation as a whole didn't accept that Jesus was the Messiah. Individuals believed on Him, but the leadership rejected Him. 3 1/2 years after Jesus' death, Stephen was preaching to the Jewish leaders about Jesus, and they took him and stoned him to death, making him the first Christian martyr. This happened in 34 AD, exactly 70 weeks, or 490 years, after the command to rebuild Jerusalem. Those 70 weeks given to the Jewish nation to accept Jesus and be God's chosen people had run out, and from that time on the gospel was preached to the Gentile world.\n\nToday, anyone who accepts Jesus becomes a part of spiritual Israel. Paul says that if we are Christs, then we are Abraham's seed (Galatians 3:29). That means Jews as well as us.
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How do you justify spiritually the killing of another human being, when you are the President of a country? It it the fastest draw theory? Is it God told you it is OK? Is it because when God said, "Thou shat not kill", He was talking to someone else other then you?
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The "sacrifice" issue is not just about animals,\n(which God never perceived as clean and unclean);\nFor God saw only good x 6, very good the 7th time.\n\nNor did God ever desire any sacrifice, for sin,\nis "of the law", which His Grace will not have,\nand the not part is not then, not now, not ever.\nPs 40:6; 51:16; Hos 6:6; Mt 9:13; Mt 12:7; Heb 10\n\nMt 9:13 Go ye and learn what meaneth:\n"I will have mercy, and not sacrifice".\nhttp://www.godshew.org/ShewBread5.htm#willx2\nWhich (law/grace)things(sons) are an "allegory".\nhttp://www.godshew.org/Allegory.htm\n\nIt OBVIOUSLY meaneth God will have grace, and not law;\nFor biblical & historical "evidence" makes it "EVIDENT"\nthat no man is justified by the law in the sight of God.\n\nAll who think other wise, the sacrifice wise, of the law,\ncan also bend over and dble kiss their cheri bums bye bye.\nAnd such is not to be merciless, but rather to be merciful.\nFor it won't change the end that's notably already written,\nbut it will make what's evident ever more evident unto all.\n\nThe "grace" of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.
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Look at God....\nin acts people sold their house and gave most of the money to fund the christians, but saved a little out to survive on. when questioned about it they lied and were instantly struck dead.\nGod took a mans supernatural strength away because he CUT HIS HAIR.\nHe made the israelites wander around in the desert for fourty years because some small thing moses did p***ed him off.\nHe allowed his own son to be tortured and killed because it was his will.\nHe allowed moses to Slaughter countless men, women and children because they freaking made a calf and said the calf led them out of slavery...\nhe allowed Job to be tortured just to 'prove a point'\nso if we were created in Gods imagine, well, its no wonder why we're this way.
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I don't believe your "faithfulness" notion here.  Where was your god during holocaust days?\n\nYou can't tell me there weren't any god-fearing jew / people in those camps.  \n\nDon't bother with the "well well" + explanations about the permissive will or any other sort of will of god, and all the other explanations that amount to "too bad for them glad it wasn't us" rationale.\n\nAll over the world, people suffer terribly through no fault of their own.  Your god doesn't seem so faithful.  \n\nPerhaps you're simply lucky!
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do you know what would've happened if they didn't do that?  i don't, but i'm sure god does... he has his reasons, he would rather kill off some people than let his own people die.... the ends justify the means