why doesn't anybody do a side by side comparison of U.S law and mexican law on immigration?
406961
I see Mexican flags here in the States all the time...but, unless you WANT to go to jail do not try flying the United States flag in Mexico...because they WILL put you in jail for doing so. Also being an illegal in Mexico is a felony. These are just 2 examples of how strict laws are in Mexico on illegals.
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Surley the point of the question is not to keep going over the past, but to query the right of the US to deny to others what it has asserted for itself, that is freedom of movement to other countries.\n\nIt is ridiculous to assert that there were no laws, therefore everything was legal. All societies have rules of behaviour. The settlers simply declared their own rights over the land, and increasingly denied any rights to the Natives as they got stronger.\n\nOf course the past can't be undone, and the Indians were not pure and innocent; and today's Mexicans are in part descended from similar settlers.\n\nBut we could try to accept that there is nothing new about migration, and that immigrants are motivated by the same human desires that inspired the Pilgrim Fathers.
733239
Please do not oversimplify the matter. There is a huge difference between legal and ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
769091
I think its been long forgotten....I have read it as well, and know about the violations.....Perhaps that is why there is some hidden animosity from the Mexican govt. towards the US govt....They don't want to drudge up the past, because the last thing they want is a war with US....We are neighbors....
434262
Immigration law reform is long overdue.  I'm more interested in what the actual law will look like after it gets out of committee (or if it can even get out of committee).  The biggest problem with sweeping reform legislation is that it rarely works and usually backfires in some form or other (See the recent bankruptcy reform legislation.)  I wish I had a little more faith in the political process to get stuff right.
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YOu answered your own question.\n\nNo one has the right to break our laws and to do something illegal.\n\nWithout control, any terrorist can learn Spanish and come over through Mexico. This is not a racial issue but a country taking a hard stance to enforce good laws.\n\nNoone can blame the poor Mexicans for trying to better their lives but it cannot go unchecked without damage to our country and the rest of us.
623941
We have to secure both of our borders and do a better job with human intelligence in both Canada and Mexico. It isn't enough to improve our control of access -- some will invariably get through. We also have to know who is trying and for what purpose. For that, we need more effective human intelligence.
422230
This is very true, but the government is more focused on mexicans because A. They are a poorer country B. Mexicans have snuck illgal drugs over the border and C. The Natalee Holloway case hasn't helped many immagrents around the country. Basiclly, everyone is just afraid of new people and what they may bring to the U.S. I am not mexican, but i do believe that every human was made equally and everyone deserves a fighting chance. I agree that not all mexicans are bad, just the very few percentage that don't know how to deal with some problems. I mean, if you think about it, if you were a mexican dealing with an oppresive government (no offense) and poverty wouldn't you want a safe haven? I know i would try anything to get to the U.S. We in the U.S. have to understand what they are going through and put ourselves in their shoes. I totally agree on the fact that mexicans aren't the only immagrants. I just think the government is afraid of be overthrown or having another terroist attack. Though my ideas may not represent the american people, i still agree that this illegal crud needs to stop soon.
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I also feel this law is outdated and should be abolished.  In fact, just tonight, I watched a show on TV that said that some years back the Cuban government released all of their worst criminals and put them on shoddy boats aimed towards the USA in order to get rid of their worst criminals and take advantage of the stupid foot on dry land law for Cubans.  I don't understand why the USA isn't quicker at changing laws that are outdated.  Other countries are so quick to take advantage and they obviously keep right up to the minute on what our laws are.  \n\nRegardless, we still have laws about immigration and I want them enforced and I want ALL illegal immigrants deported and I want this done asap, regardless of the cost, because I believe the cost will be less to the American taxpayers in the long run.  If our immigration laws are outdated, they should  be updated, and if things take too long, they should be changed so that applications can be expedited, but the USA has a right to determine who they want for immigrants and how many of them they want and where they should live and what types of jobs they will do.  It is unfair that they flock to certain states and towns and so overburdening the social services, school systems, corrections systems, and medical care of those areas.  With proper immigration systems, people are told where they can go.  The immigrants aren't the ones to decide where they will go - the government has the say as to where they can go.  With illegal immigration - they flock to wherever they want and this causes some areas to be overburdened and without the proper tax basis to support them and actually causing a negative effect on the legal US citizens and immigrants in those areas.\n\nThere is a real, sane reason why a country should have a say in who gets in and where they will go.
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That's a very technical question which the law makers are trying to solve.\nLou Dobb is strongly against it and so are many democrats as well as Republicans.\nFact is, laws whould be enacted to allow the same migrants to enter the USA legally so as to put an end to this debate about illegal immigrants.
470829
Illegal immigrants are no different than when someone commits other crimes such as shop lifting, pick pocketing, tax evasion, it's illegal.  I don't mean to sound cold hearted but the law is the law; there has to be equal importance to all laws, that's what this country was founded on.  I know that every one of our families at some point and time were immigrants, but they went threw the process of becoming an American citizen because they liked what the country had to offer.  Most people aren't fighting to keep certain people out, they're just looking for the laws that are in place to be in forced.  Like I state before if I can be put in jail for speeding which is breaking the law than the same should be enforced for illegal anything.
385726
There are countries that are in worse shape than mexico,and those individuals that have waited for years should be allowed to come into this country before the mexicans,but you have low lifes in our goverment like George Bush,Hillary Clinton,Ted Kennedy,John McCain and others that are kissing mexicans behinds to get then on their side instead of doing what's right for the country.
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I think the felony for aiding an immigrant is a non-starter and a negotiating point the House put in.  I think if we can't enforce the laws we have, all we would have with that law is an even more 'illigitimate law'.  (I am sure that is in your text book too.)\n\nHowever, while the principles you are discussing are one theory of political analysis, using any one theory alone is like wearing blinders.  Yours doesn't get you to the point in this case.\n\nThere is frustration with a demand for rights we reserve to legal status individuals, and with the assumption that overburdening schools and services should not be taken into account if the people doing it are 'good people'.  Basic human rights are different, and if we are physically being cruel to people or not allowing them due process or something, that would be different.\n\nThose who repeat that illegal immigrants are here illegally aren't dim wits unable to comprehend basic social theory, and many have progressed beyond Poli Sci 101.  What you see is people saying that the ones demanding legal resident rights aren't entitled to them, and are out of line to demand that kind of rights.   Those rights are conferred precisely because people are here legally.  Illegal immigrants aren't part of the protected class that came here legally at a rate designed for assimilation. \n\nI believe that, myself.  I think the best argument for regularizing current illegal immigrants is that while we have to close the border and limit immigrants, these people are already here.  As a practical matter, if they would meet our standards (not gang members or terrorists, and self supporting), a lot of people think it is best to just say 'ok start today' on tough enforcement.  The problem is that the amnesty in 1986 to do just that was taken by many as something that would happen regularly.  Since 1986, there has not been enforcement at the border and the illegal immigrant population has exploded.  Moreover, people come onto this site and actually say they should get amnesty 'because nothing has been done for Mexicans since 1986', as if amnesty were a regular process.  That would nullify our immigration policies, which have good reason for existing.\n\nI think we need to close the border, really, really close the border.  Then we can turn to the people inside, and decide how to handle that.  It is a lot easier to be empathetic when you are not being told that theoretically we should support the poor of the entire world.
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My best guess would be that Canada and Mexico at least will listen, rather than dictate. Wasn't a bad question until you added the last part, bigger fences don't make for better neighbours, the Canada/U.S. border has been an example for the rest of the world to strive for. The Mexico/U.S. border could be as well if current laws were enforced. 'Nuff said
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I don't think so.  They forgot about\nNo. 8 Thy shalt not steal\n.....and\nNo. 10:\nThou shall not covet thy neighbor's house... \n\n\nIllegally entering the USA is the same as both stealing and "coveting thy neighbors house"\n\nIllegal immigrants can't follow God's or man's law. They prefer a 'lawless' land. Where would our country be if we allowed all people to continually break our laws without punishment? We would be like Mexico, a dust bowl of filth, squalor, crime and drugs.\n\nOur laws are passed for legitimate reasons and should be enforced, abided by and those who break our laws should be punished.
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Mexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try it Here at Home 1\nMexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try it Here at Home\nBy J. Michael Waller\nMexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would\nlove. However, Mexican officials haven’t been sharing that idea with us as they press for\nour Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill.\nThat’s too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the\nUnited States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue.\nUnder Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.\nAt a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in\nline with foreign legal norms, it’s noteworthy that nobody has argued that the US look at\nhow Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve\nour illegal immigration problem. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that\nforeign visitors and immigrants are:\n• in the country legally;\n• have the means to sustain themselves economically;\n• not destined to be burdens on society;\n• of economic and social benefit to society;\n• of good character and have no criminal records; and\n• contributors to the general well-being of the nation.\nThe law also ensures that:\n• immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;\n• foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;\n• foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;\n• foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;\n• foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;\n• those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.\nWho could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution\nstrictly defines the rights of citizens – and the denial of many fundamental rights to noncitizens,\nillegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or\nGeneral Law on Population, spells out specifically the country’s immigration policy.\nIt is an interesting law – and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great\nsouthern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies,\nwhen its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a\ncrime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to\nbe an illegal alien in Mexico.\nIf the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a\nmanifestation of American racism and bigotry.\nMexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try it Here at Home 2\nWe looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution.[1] Now let’s look\nat Mexico’s main immigration law.\nMexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:\n• Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of\ncontributing to national progress.” (Article 32)\n• Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for\nthe country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for\ntheir dependents. (Article 34)\n• Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the\nequilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed\ndetrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like\ngood citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and\nwhen “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)\n• The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of\nforeigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)\nMexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:\n• Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration\nauthorities upon request, i.e., to as
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If you mean the same as in they have both broken a federal law, than yes very similar. Illegal immigration is against the law, lets not dilute the truth. But we reward them, that would be like people protesting for the rights of the bank robber. Also they aren't citizens, so the way I see it they have no rights here. My great grandparents came over legally, so can every other person.