do you think god would allow people to be cloned to save the lives of dying children???
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I'm agnostic, myself. But if God does exist, it doesn't seem like there's much he won't allow to happen. Whether or not he favors the idea would probably be a better question. And to answer that one...I don't know. I can't know. And neither can anyone else here, regardless of what they may tell you.\n\nn4mwd: You seem pretty arrogant, for someone who has no idea what he's talking about. How does spelling God incorrectly...no, not even spelling it incorrectly, just not capitalizing it, equate to not believing in God? That is complete and utter nonsense. And I have no idea whether or not the soul exists, or what it is, but identical twins are not clones.
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Firstly the answer depends one whether you are referring to cloning on an individual cell basis or at the organism level (ie Dolly the sheep).\n\nThere are two main types of objection to the first type of cloning, those relating to pro-life arguments and those that are concerned with unethical manipulations of cells. \n\nThe pro-life debate argues that all cells are potential life, the decision of whether or not those cells are allowed to grow or are terminated lies with God, not a scientist. \n\nThe other argument argues that cloning may grow out of control and unethical experiments may be carried out. \n\nOn the organism level...\n\nWell human cloning finds itself facing similar arguments, pro-life is obviously going to find problems here as life is a privilege given only by God. \n\nFrom an ethical view its quite clear that complete human cloning is wrong, refer to the movie The Island!\n\nI think Christians object, not through fear as God will always be infinitely more powerful in their eyes, but purely because they believe the gift of life is precious and from their point of view cloning is a violation of that gift.\n \nPersonally I think the anti-cloning and stem cell research movements are damaging the potential of scientific and medical research.
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"If God didn't want human cloning to happen, He would have made it impossible." And proceed from there.
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I would say yes\nBut God wants Free-Will of choice........so in turn you make up your own mind.
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I think you could only if you integrated the necessary necromantic rituals into the cloning process.  You could clone the tissue, but it would grow as a living creature.  You'd then have to euthanize it and then raise it from the dead.
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Man will never be able to create a human.God won't allow it.They may be able to cure diseases using stem cells to create new functioning organs and that would be  a blessing.
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Absolutely.Without question or hesitation.\nOf course,the proof would have to satisfy me.None of this,"because it's in the bible" krap,or "someone had to create all of this".\nSomething actually verifiable by me.\nThat would open up an entirely new set of problems though.\nYou would then have to keep me from killing him.Not an easy task.\nYou see,even if I knew he was there,I wouldn't agree with all of the things that he lets happen to innocent people.He supposedly is all powerful.How can he let a child be molested,or beaten,or burned beyond recognition.How can he let women be raped,or people be tortured?\nHow could he sit there and do nothing while someone wasted away and died a horrible death from some disease?\nPlease don't try to feed me any of your "he gave us free will",or "the devil is responsible" krap.\n\nBOTTOM LINE:\nIf you have the POWER to help,then you have the RESPONSIBILITY to help.\nI am going to Iraq soon.It will by no means be my first OP.I am going to join my brothers and put my life in danger to help these people get the freedom and human rights that we all deserve.I don't do it because I have to.I do it because I have the ability,and therefore,the responsibility to do it.\nI could not agree with your god's complacency.\nI would have alot more respect for him if he grabbed an M4 and SHOWED he cared by doing his part.\nI couldn't let anything terrible happen to MY children if I could stop it.\n\nOmnipotent and doesn't give a sh*t...
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honestly...friends, family....hopefully a stranger on the street. why? b/c i believe that someone else might not have God in their life the way i do...and they should be given life to experience that joy that i have. plus they might be somethign great one day and what happens if i don't save that?  and the big reason...God sent Jesus to die for us...so why shouldn't i die for another?
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I don't think it can be miraculous, unless you're referring to their attitude in religion. I would tell them to let God and Jesus enter their life, to accept God, and to call on His angels. I would tell the person to think positive and make the most of your life to pay it forward, to accept the good, bad and ugly days that are colored black, white or shades of gray.
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To one of the posters before me, I can only say that some people need to get educated before telling others to check their facts!  Most embryonic stem cell research is done on the stem cells of embryos that would have been discarded anyway; fertility clinics routinely thrash embryos that aren't showing satisfactory growth rates suitable for In vitro.  So the embryo dies no matter what!  Might as well put the tissue to use so that the death isn't in vain--who knows how many lives the research on one embryo could save?  And as far as grouping OTHER stem cell research into this whole "morality" issue... I'd hope these soapbox preachers realize that blood cells come from stem cells that are produced by bone marrow--and we all have 'em.  No lives (other than cellular) are lost for research--and many bone marrow transplant patients owe their lives to what's been done so far.  Blood stem cells aren't capable of forming anything other than blood cells, while embryonic stem cells have the potential of becoming any of the body's tissues.  Honest to goodness, do a little research!\n\nNOW, to answer the question asked... yeah, I think he'll veto it.  He'll kick himself if he or someone he loves becomes ill with a disease that might have been curable if he'd have actually helped the research.  But for now, I'd see him standing on the Biblewagon and doing whatever he can to make sure nothing useful happens.  (Kind of like he's been doing from day one, eh?)
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Very thought provoking question! I am suprised that the responses you have received so far have been either negative or incomplete. It does pose a serious problem for conservative minded people. If the creation of a "Frankenstein" embryo by the hands of man is a religious abomination as you postulate, then supporting its existance is an equal abomination. But then comes the right to life issue. So far the responses seem to have been "well, too late to do anything about it". I think those responses are cop outs.\n\nI think that, should God make available to man the technology to perform such acts, then God must want us to be capable of doing it, otherwise he would prevent it.  Interestingly, it calls into question fundamental religious beliefs of whether or not this might be a "test" by God...\n\nI really dont have an off the cuff answer. This has provoked a lot of questions in my mind, and I have to sit back and think about it carefully for awhile. Thanks for the great question.
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Simple answer:\n\nYou're question is too deep to answer fully in this type of forum, but I will still comment on the basics.\n\nLet me address a few things first. You're question was phrased rather negatively, as if this evil act (stillborn babies) was directly given by God. They are not. (From this point forward let's assume God exists and the Bible is His word so that things make sense at least in this thread).\n\nThe Bible says that God is all good and all powerful. So if evil and suffering exists (stillborn babies) why doesn't God stop it? Well, first off God can easily stop it. That much is obvious. The second half is less obvious.\n\nGod says He created adam and eve perfect, sinless, without suffering, in a perfect world, living in God's presence. God also gave them free will to either choose God or reject Him. They opted for the latter. Because of that man separated himself from God and was unable to return to Him by themselves (God fixed the problem by sending Jesus but that is a topic for a different post). Now God could have stopped them from sinning but that would have been pointless. Imagine being a parent and stopping your kid from rejecting you thereby forcing them to love you. That would be torture and would turn your kids into mere robots and slaves. God wanted people to frelly choose Him so He had to give the ability to reject Him and also to face the consequences of that action otherwise people would never learn from doing bad things (ie If I killed someone and then God instantly resurrected that person, I would feel no guilt or shame because my bad actions would have no consequences). To make a long story short we now live in a world riddled with disease and suffering because this is all the consequences of bad actions that we are forced to live with. These consequences lead to such horrible things like stillborn babies. \n\nDoes God want that? no. Will the baby go to heaven? In my opinion yes. Does God use even such a horrible event like a stillborn child to bring about an even greater good? In my opinion yes. Does that mean I know what that is? no. I believe it on faith just like every other believer in God, that even though suffering and evil exists, God uses it all to bring about even greater good. An example would include Jesus being beaten and spit upon and being crucified (this would be evil and suffering) and using that event to actually bring about the salvation of all mankind to whomever will believe (which is what happened).\n\nI hope this answered your question and helps.
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The Bible is really silent on the issue as it was not around in the period of time it was written.  The Bible does say that no greater love has any man than to lay down his life for another.  Taking that and looking at organ donation, I think that God would be very pleased that we would give our useless organs to another to save their lives.  What use do we have with them if we are dead?  It serves a greater good to help another and if God says that the greatest love is to lay our lives down for another, giving life when our lives are gone seems almost redundant...of course we should.  Hope this helps.
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Against it.\n\nI think doctors have been playing "Frankenstein" for too long now.  Just because they "Can" does not mean they should!!!\n\nDoctors are working as hard as possible to delay death.  What is wrong with death???  I know our society is afraid of death and I think this is insane.  We have no problem murdering babies who are "in the womb" to save another life.  This life being saved  has experience life, and has had the opportunity to exercise their "Free Will", God‘s calling them.   The unborn baby has not has this chance, and we're robbing it of life for an old life who‘s ready to go home.  \n\nEven when an abortion is not necessary for "Stem Cell", I still think that we need to grow up and look death in its face.  We need to live our lives to its best potential.  I think we're insulting God by delaying death.  It's like me saying, hey Mom, give me five more minutes to play my video games... it seems harmless, but dinner got cold...we missed a joyful time with our family.\n\nWhat would I say to God and the unborn child if I were a recipient of Stem Cell?  Thanks for the life force duds…I used it to watch TV and play video games…plus I got to see my niece be born and graduate elementary school???  My conscience couldn’t handle that responsibility.\n\nIs it that we have done so much bad, that we’re afraid to face God?
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I just cannot take any cult seriously who would willingly stand by and let their child die for want of a blood transfusion.  How is that possible?   Why was it allowed?   And then you come to my home and talk about living forever.  I wouldn't want to live for five minutes with people who don't care enough to allow their children the sanctity of life, it's wrong.
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That it is wrong.\nHistory has already shown us what happens when this is allowed--suddenly it not just the terminally ill but every "Undesirable" human that someone playing "God" determines should die. (See Nazi's)\n\nThat brings me to the real point--only God decides when one dies.\n\nExample: would you want someone to decide that your baby who may have been born with a birth defect should be killed instead of doctors trying to save it?\n\nThat is just one of the many dilemas which we as a society would face if the practice of Euthanasia was ever embraced.
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Unfortunantly he would not relive his life.  The clone would be his own individual, but would soon die.   DNA can only be replicated so many times.  Each time it is replicated it get cut allittle more.  The end of our DNA is useless and is called telomere. But once you start cutting off the good DNA you start getting cancer.  If you clone right before death, the clone would also have the telomeres wasted and would thus die soon after.\n\nThat sheep that they cloned was an adult, so the clone died around the same time as the original sheep.