So god creates Eden then man then tests man and is taken by surprise the man failed the test?
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LOOK AND READ THIS IDIOTS PROFILE ABOUT CHRISTIANITY.\n HE IS A LOSER.  AND MAYBE A CATHOLIC LOSER AT THAT.  \nHE IS A SPIRITUALLY IGNORANT SOUL.  IN NEED OF TRUTH.  \n\nPRAY FOR THIS GUY. HE IS MESSED UP SPIRITUALLY.
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A false doctrine not found in the Bible but made by man.
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The stories in the bible are meant to be taken out of context in my opinion. The story of Genesis goes something like this. Adam and Eve were man and woman... Both knew no evil. They enjoyed the light from each others souls. Each of thier thoughts helped the other to grow and prosper. One day a "serpent", or a cheat,  someone that didn't believe in the way god saw things. Came forward and while adam was away playing the serpent convinced Eve that she should do the exact thing that both adam and God told her not to do. She was run by her emotions and the facts of her life had meaning that she couldn't understand. She was convinced/baited into eating things of which she had no knowledge. When adam came back he saw that she was changed. He was curious and his lack of wisdom in his judgements caused him to eat of the knowledge of good and evil. They both gained knowledge but at the cost of living in paradise. The suffering that arised was not from Satan but what Satan knew would happen. They would see each other for what each other were. And that would escalate into more and more questions. When the fact is that they both had all the answers that they needed. It was people's greed and curiousity that allowed this to happen. Naivety can sometimes seem evil to someone that doesn't understand things on a bigger scale. If such a paradise existed in the meaning of the garden of eden then knowledge and understanding were the things that brought it crumbling down. Knowledge is power, power corrupts, so knowledge is the root of all evil. Eve was just a scapegoat. She was blamed for her naivety to believe in someone other than god himself. As for child birth, we are all sinners, it is suffering that we must go through to continue to survive. If we saw an end to child birth then we would see an and to humanity. Please also take into note that women have, since the days of homo-erectus, been the bearers of children and the protecters of the home. The men of that age were the hunters and gatherers. We have come a long, long way from that nomadic life. But the pain of child birth still remains something to be winced at. Women were never known to be what they are today. Intelligent contributing members to society. Why even 50 years ago they couldn't even vote. Women still have no rights around the world today. Men blame them for being weak back then and still blame them for it today. Women will never get thier share of the fair slive of the pie until they become the dominant ones. But men train thier boys to be dominant and thier girls to be subservient. Women train thier boys to be caring and thier girls to fight strong. So it's a matter of who's lessons are being learned and who's are being dismissed. I know I looked to my father for the real answers and my mother for the emotion ones. Because even as a child I knew thier strengths and weaknesses. If I had asked my mother for her strength and my father for his emotions then I would be gay or a complete idiot. Yes that does sound condescening but I know that to be the truth of the matter. \nWell to sum it up, I would have to say that women have always suffered the wrath of men. We just have to wait for the natural order of things to fall into place before women will be able to become the dominant species. Think about the amazon culture. (the fairy tale version) And some of us see the reality of what could be. I would reccomend reading Genesis and taking in the subtler nuances. Take all the stories from the bible and apply them to your own life. You may find that alot more of the stories make sense. But you may also find that the very knowledge you seek will hold you back from finding your eden. We all suffer the pains of knowing the truth. Those of us that don't, already live in eden and, merely wonder why everyone else left. I hope this answers some of your questions and helps to ease the sight of the suffering you witness. Bathe in the light of y
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The term "in his image" means not what he looks like (god) but what he imagined man to look like. Yes Man did exist outside of Eden.  "Cain then traveled to the land of Nod and there he knew his wife".  Only the decendants of Adam and Eve are cursed.  Since there were those outside of Eden they are without sin.  God did not flood the entire earth, in fact it was the river Nile that had flooded and washed away those in the local area.  Otherwise how would you account for the pacific civilizations.  The bible is full of metaphores.  You must take the stories and see beyond the words to see what little truth is left in them.  The original bible had over 100 books in it.  It got whittled down to what we recognize today, by different Popes, Bishops, and Kings taking out what they thought didn't fit the story.  Gutenburg was the first to put it all together.  Also consider these stories have been handed down for many centuries and in so the translations became blurry.  By the way I am not a Christian but a Witch, I take the time to study other belief systems so I can better understand my brothers and sisters.
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The Lost Chapter of Genesis\n \nAdam was hanging around the garden of Eden feeling very lonely. \n\nSo God asked him, "What's wrong with you?" \n\nAdam said he didn't have anyone to talk to. \n\nGod said that He was going to make Adam a companion and that it would be a woman. \nHe said, "This pretty lady will gather food for you, she will cook for you, and when you discover clothing, she will wash it for you. \n"She will always agree with every decision you make and she will not nag you and will always be the first to admit she was wrong when you've had a disagreement. She will praise you!  "She will bear your children and never ask you to get up in the middle of the night to take care of them. \n"She will never have a headache and will freely give you love and passion whenever you need it." \n\nAdam asked God, "What will a woman like this cost?" \n\nGod replied, "An arm and a leg." \n\nSo Adam asked, "What can I get for a rib?" \n\nThe rest is history....
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The men who created God have showed the faults of their intellect and understanding of what was really going on. We have since learned that some of the things that they thought were wrong. They were dummies. So when mistakes are found in the Bible  people will come up with all sorts of self created explanations and excuses. Just look at some of the ridiculous answers they have given here.
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After Cain killed Abel, he left.  He wandered to Nod, a land in the East and married a woman from among the people there (Gen 4:16).  Yes, I know it's an internal inconsistancy, but if the story is meant to be taken as a parable then it doesn't matter.  God created people, but people were already there, so perhaps it the whole Adam-from-mud-and-Eve-from-the-rib bit isn't literally true.  I know some people disagree, but I believe God had a plan and created people through evolution.  Science and religion don't have to be at odds.
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No do not shrug this off but seek the truth without judgeing God I assure you there is a meaning and I as going to give it to you but I will instead give you a seed it is up to you what you do with it. The Romans 9 verse is a repeat of Mal 1 It is used as an example but the Old testament has many examples of this including Cain and Abel. Consider the two  consider also that first was the Jew and later the Gentile remember the scripture that says no greater man born of woman than John the Baptist but the least in heaven is greater than he. Christ was in submission to the father. The church is in submission to Christ.The wife is in submission to her husband. Why? Remember Also Esau and Jacob were twins and Jacob was born with his hand around Esau's ankle
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This is a very good question indeed. Well, according to my source, which is the King James Version of the Holy Bible, (I choose this version because most people are familiar with it). There were man before Adam and Eve, the two of them were only the first of their own kind or tribe, as well as being the first servants of God. Genesis Chapter 1 versus 26-28 read: (*my own emphasis are added to the text)\n\n26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let THEM* have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.\n\n27 So God created man in his OWN* image, in the image of God created he him; MALE* and FEMALE* created he them.\n\n28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.\n\nSo here in the Bible tells of creation of man and woman. THIS man and woman were created simultaneously, not one then the other.  AND this man and woman or race of men and women were on the earth and had habitated the Earth as instructed by God, long before the creation of Adam and Eve. This is where in the Bible we find the story of the original people. The one's whom were given the dominion of the land as a gift of God. HOW do we know that these were not the same as Adam and Eve? That is told in verse 29 which reads:\n\n29 And God said,"See, I have given you EVERY* herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and EVERY* tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.\n\nTo these first inhabitants of the Earth, there was no forbidden fruit, as there was for Adam and Eve. The first people were given full dominion and full reign and EVERY tree as food.  As we see in this, King James Version of the Holy Bible, Adam and Eve came along later, long after the seventh day of creation. And also we see that they were a creation of the Lord God, who created them to be servants in the garden, because "there was no man to till the ground" (GEN 2:5). Genesis Chapter 2 tells of the creation of Adam:\n\n7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into him the breath of life; and the man became a living being.\n\nThen the Lord God gave Adam his rules:\n\n15 Then the LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden *TO TEND AND KEEP IT*. \n\n16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat;\n\n17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die."\n\nThen Lord God noticed Adam was lonely:\n\n18 And the LORD God said, "It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him."\n\nThen Eve was created:\n\n21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place.\n22 Then the rib which the LORD God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.\n\nAnd they were good until the "serpent" went and pointed out to them that they were the only ones in the garden who couldn't eat from every tree... and as they say, the rest was history.
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Because it is not necessarily God's will. He created us all and gave us all free will. Also, Satan is the one who is in charge of the bad things that are happening to us all! But, I think that God can(and does) use some bad things that happen to us and he turns them into a test...I think that it is mostly a test of faith. Hope this helps!
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God created man, no other creator made man before God.
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None, it was created by man for several reasons - to control and conquer, to explain things that man can't explain yet, for reasons of hope and to use God to teach moral values.
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I believe that, no, God did not "plan" it this way.  But, I think that God knew that humans were going to be weak.  Yes, I know that that sounds like a contradiction, but, honestly that is the best that I could come up with.  I cannot speak for God, but I know that He knows best.
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God created the Garden of Eden for Adam and Eve. He strictly told them not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. A serpant (the devil) came and decieved Eve into eating from the tree which God forbade her and Adam NOT to eat from, then Eve decieved Adam into doing the same.
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man sinned as a result of free will. jesus was sacrificed to erase mans sin. the devil was created by a lust for power
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Man created God in his own image
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The story of Adam and Eve was just that ... A story. It was told to make a point in spiritual truth, not as a real history. The point being that when we follow ego we seem separated from Deity. The writer of Genesis simply used Satan as a metaphor for that portion of the human mind that forms the illusion of separation, which thing we call ego. Its just a difference in terminology based on language and culture. The principle truth remains the same. God loving people in no way negates cause and effect. We do things. That's the cause. If we make bad choices we suffer the consequences. That's the effect. Cause and effect is a simple Universal law. Its not a punishment, its just the way things work. If we make good choices we can put that law of cause and effect to work for us rather than against us and instead of suffering the consequences of our actions we can reap the rewards. Which things are a matter of perception. But understanding this helps keep ego (Satan, our own "lower" nature) in check and make appropriate choices in life. ;-) ~ Peace & Blessings ~