illegal immigrants and welfare?
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" (i'm sure most of these comments are from people who are on the assistance and aren't working"\n\nWrong Answer Sweetie\n\nCITIZEN TAXPAYERS Fund The VERY Systems That Your Shootin Your UNINFORMED Mouth Off About\n\nHEALTH, EDUCATION, And WELFARE Are Set Up For, And FUNDED By\nTAXPAYERS So The Children Of CITIZENS Get Medical Benefits,\nAnd The Children Of CITIZENS Get An Education, And The Children Of CITIZENS Get Welfare Benefits (WIC Etc.)\n\nIts NOT Set Up For ILLEGAL Immigrants To Have Their Babies So They Can Get Free Benefits Out Of The Pockets Of TAXPAYERS\n\nThose Programs Are There For CITIZENS And WE THE PEOPLE Are NOT Going To Allow You To Take ADVANTAGE Of Us Any Longer\n\n\nLet Me FURTHER Educate Your Dumb@$$ And  Explain To You That Unemployment IS NOT HIGH\n\nILLEGAL Immigrants Comprise 5 Percent Of The Workforce\nAnd The Unemployment Rate Is 4.7 Percent\n\nCan YOU Do The Math??? Let Me Do It FOR You\nDEPORT ALL ILLEGALS--Unemployment Drops To ZERO \n\nStop BASHING Hardworking American Citizens\n\nGet An Education, Youve Got ALOT To Learn
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1st all working illegals in the USA should be told to stay home for 1 month.\n\n2nd everyone on welfare should go to work at all the open jobs created by the illegals staying home for that month.\n\n3rd any jobs remaining open should be filled with the most senior(longest in the USA) and most bi-lingual and who have no USA criminal activity.\n\n4th the remaining welfare recipients(let's face it, most are just lazy and take advantage of the american system) and the remaining illegals should be deported.\n\ni'm sure there are a few legit welfare recipients out there - have them all take lie detector tests.\n\nand finally: 1 question that should be added to the immigration and usa naturalization test:  Define the words legal and illegal.
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No, they shouldn't be getting any service except emergency care. This isn't what is happening. \nNot many know the politics of the immigration system that we are living under. You are only hitting on one aspect of it Medical-school-aid. This is only the tip of the iceberg.\n\nUnder legal immigration law all the things your asking about are benefits they can receive. \nThe "illegal" aspect now gets real muddy. Question: If you are of "authority" and knowingly look the other way while someone does something against the law, is it a crime? That is what is happening our government is not stopping them from coming here(looking the other way) so why would they stop them from getting the same benefits legals receive. \n\nSomehow you and many other Americans think our government cares what they are doing or what happens to you or anyone else. Being they don't, what do you think that says???? \nGet the drift.\n\nLike I said what you asked is just a slight tip of the iceberg.
466021
People on welfare.  way to many. And ones that are on food stamps.  I know a few people that are able to work but don't want to, cause they don't want to lose their free stuff.  The Government needs to start checking people out a little better and if they do maybe are taxes won't be too high.  I understand that there is some people that need the help, but some are just taking advantage of the system.  Nothing makes me more mad that I go and earn a honest living and you have someone wanting you to buy some groceries, so they can have cash to go buy cigarettes and beer.
1157094
Wow, you people amaze me on here. I don't mean just one person in particular I mean everyone! Before you begin to pick sides, please understand the other side of the argument. I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but there are some things people just need to realize man. First off, illegal aliens, yes they should be sent back because they are illegal. But people though, if their country is so much better off with our "outsourcing economy" why is it they still want to come into our country? Another thing is because they are doing the jobs that are paying low wages and yea, they are doing it illegally; but let me ask you something, what about all the americans who are here working as drug dealers, bank robbers, and criminals trying to get their money? Aren't they as illegal as the illegal aliens trying to make a living? Oh an please don't get on me with that immigrations get more welfare: to be honest with you the "caucasian populations" get more welfare and is more dependent on the state. So therefore I've contradicted myself in both ways, which explains what I'm trying to say please think before you judge, and learn before you speak. That's all....... thank you..
598968
I don't know if I do or not. I'm not against immigrants, I'm just against the ones that insist on being here illegally. As far as I'm concerned, they can stay here if they want, just go through the process to be here legally. Most of us here are here because of immigrants, so we can't really complain about that part of it. Yes, it would provide more jobs for those of us who are citizens but let's be honest here... there aren't a whole lot of citizens who would be willing to do the work that the illegals do. Have you ever tried to help someone who victimizes our welfare system find a job? I have, a few people,and all I got was, 'can't do that, won't do that, ewww, that's not enough money for THAT kind of work.' The people who are on welfare that are honest workers that wouldn't be an issue, but unfortunately I think those people are a minority. Good question!
751926
Don't even get me started.  I have so many problems with the immigration problem in the US I am not even sure where to begin.  The bottom line is that we spend billions on social welfare programs for people that contribute nothing more to this country than provide cheap labor.  I don't think it is unreasonable to ask that these folks go thru the legal immigration progress, and then become a productive "tax paying" citizen.
710423
Looks like you already answered your question. Sickening isn't it?\n\nGalaxy500: Hey slick, could you please explain for me just how an increase in minimum wage makes people want to stay on welfare?\nThis should be a real hoot.
1024277
I am very pro-illegal... and I used to not be... but since I moved to Los Angeles, my view of what an illegal immigrant does differs from what I thought it was...\n\n1.  If you see a panhandler or a begger, what do those signs always say?  Vietnam Vet, or something to that effect... and they're very rarely hispanic... Go to any homeless shelter, and tell me the racial demographics of the homeless, the alcoholics and the drug addicted that roam the streets... They are mostly American Citizens, who contribute less than nothing to the US...\n\n2.  They are always working, whether they are selling fruit near a highway entrance, or washing dishes, or picking produce.  When people talk about hispanics, they always say they're taking our jobs... b/c they're willing to work hard for them, while Citizens believe that they are entitled to the jobs just b/c they are citizens...\n\n3.  They drain our welfare system... Believe it our not, it's very hard to receive federal assistance without a SSN... There are a programs to help with the poverty stricken in general.  Also If we were to legalize them, they have to produce financial documents stating that they will NOT receive any form of federal assistance... so if we DON'T want them getting any more federal assistance... legalize them... \n\n4.  They are criminals and bring drugs and gangs into the US... Well people of all color and race do drugs and join gangs... so as long as they are people, there will be some good ones and some bad ones... but to classify an entire race due to the actions of a few, is not fair\n\n5.  They will be a financial strain? NO! B/C they will now pay taxes, and they cannot fake the number of dependants, b/c they all the SSN... Also the estimated 60+ million (Which is the latest and most accurate number to date, but ofcourse it's all guessing... )  would have to PAY to receive Amnesty.  Right now to become a Citizen LEGALLY costs anywhere for 700 - 1000$ for filing ONLY, if you hire a lawyer, it could be MORE... So for example only 30million are actually able to receive amnesty... they will pay lets say 1000 each... that would be 30 billion dollars in revenue... not to mention new jobs created to handle the paperwork, as well as more work for lawyers, which creates more work for paralegals, which creates more schools for paralegals, which creates more jobs for those working at the schools, which creates more jobs for day care centers.. you get my point?\n\nGranted there are problems with Amnesty.. I know there will be problems with Medical care, housing, schools etc.. but since it's only for people who ALREADY are here... HAVE been here for many years... The change in housing and school crowding shouldn't be the biggest issue... The bigger issue is how will we tame the anger and animosity we've created between two classes of peole that have become one... That is the true issue...
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Illegal immigrants, No, because it has a negative impact on many things. \n\nTo name a few: welfare system, court system (tying up the court systems with things such as drinking and driving. I watch the news on a daily basis and suprise it's not the white or even black people killing others in d&D accidents but the illegal mexicans), economy (they make money here but send it back to where-ever their family is), and jobs (why would an employer want to hire someone thats here "legally" when they can hire an illegal immigrant that will work under the table for minimum wage?).
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LOL ...Maybe you, your  family, and friends should get off welfare and get off your lazy a$$es and get to work. Then there would be no need to hire or work for illegal aliens.
1175744
The half of this "can of worms" has not been revealed.  Not only do illegals grab many benefits but they also apply for Medicaid and Medicare!  Many work under false names/social security numbers and the REAL citizens get income tax notices for back taxes! One lady had taken care of her children since 2000 and IRS wanted over $15,000 for back taxes on money she had not seen nor earned in three states! Recently 20 illegals were captured and some nitwit at Immigration told police to "Release them!"  Police should have ignored such a STUPID reply as a garbled transmission...faulty fax...faulty brain in faxer,etc. Immigration Service is a haven for nitwits, loafers, and incompetents seeking an easy paycheck for sloth.  Thousands of businesses could be fined for knowingly hiring illegals and fine money could be applied to "Dropping them off in Chiapas".  Instead 3 or 4 got fines, the apprehanders need to be the survivors of a "mass firing".  Whoever is supposed to be watching INS goof off should likewise be tossed into a van without seats a-la Billy Dale Travel Office style...and taken to the gate, told to "So Sue us!"  Hillary Clinton style!
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Thank you Thank you Thank you for the question....and the last answer that you provided. Your analysis is dead on perfect.\n\nThese entry level jobs (a pessimist calls them dead end jobs) could easily be done by those sitting on the couch collecting welfare.  But they will not work because they don't have too.\n\nIn addition to Immigration reform we need Welfare reform too.\n\nAs far as blaming employers...that is absurd.  First MOST are small mom and pop companies that can not afford a payroll department to verify documentation (you can buy a SS card for $150 on many street corner in some neighborhoods.)\n\nSo we put grandma in jail and let the worker go?\n\nI was in San Diego last year saw a news story about a farmer who walked into a unemployment office and offer them all a job if they showed up on the farm the next day...only one did but quit by noon.
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Welfare is welfare, corporate or social EXCEPT for the following facts:\n\n1) The Goverment gives WAY more to Corporations then it does to the poor and needy. This is just plain wrong. It helps wealthy and powerful corporations become even more powerful and rich. These corporations then fire a bunch of rank and file workers and then ship their jobs overseas. They use the our tax money to help THEMSELVES out and screw over the American tax paying public. As for the poor they get peanuts. Has anyone out there tried to live off of Food Stamps or other public assistance? If you have then you know that the money the goverment gives doesn't really do shit for you. Most working poor need public assistance just to keep their heads above water. Aren't we a "Christian" country? We're obilgated to help the poor not help the rich get more wealth!\n\n2) Whenever the rich gets a break (in getting out of paying taxes or free money) they use it to expand themselves first and then maybe they might throw a few dollars into the American public by spending it for the good of the many,\n\n3) CEO's and other power players get rich off grants while the rank and file (Joe public) get shit!\n\n4) There are lots of idiots out there that think that the poor have it easy and just get fat off our tax dollars and the FACT is that most of them are barely making it and are an inch from joining the homeless.\n\n5) The working class and the working poor pay more taxes then the rich because the rich can afford expensive tax lawyers and find the loop holes in the tax laws while the middle class and the poor pay more then the rich do. That's fucked up!\n\n6) Remember ENRON and the S&L scandels? Who made off with the money (a bunch of rich CEO assholes) and who got screwed (all the working class Joes and their families)?\n\nWhy should my tax dollars go to rich asshole and big corporations that DON'T need the money?!?!?\n\nAn ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. It takes less money to help the mentally ill in an out patient center then it does to lock them up in prison (the same goes to drug addicts and other criminals) But the corporations that keep building the prisons get richer off the goverment grants and they love it.
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The positions on illegal immigration.
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That is what they are hoping for. This is an invasion.\n\nIllegals draw welfare by stealing people's social security numbers and identities. That means there are a lot of people being directly hurt by these people as well. Innocent people are having their credit ratings ruined, having IRS problems, and social security problems. If someone who has had their social security number stolen gets married, if either spouse dies or become disabled then they can be denied their benefits. \n\nMy family moved to the US before WWII. Those of my family that didn't make it over got killed by the death camps. Our family assimilated to the American culture. We didn't expect the Americans to change to suit us. The illegal immigrants from Mexico are not civilized like that.\n\nThey not only changed the National Anthem to Spanish, they changed the words. They already burn our flag and hang our flag upside down. They waved the Mexican flag during a lot of their protests. Some schools have stopped hanging the American flag and forbidden students from wearing clothes with any part of the American flag on their clothing all to keep from offending the Mexicans. It's nothing short of an attack of our country, not only by the illegal aliens, but those who seek to appease them. \n\nI am tired of the stereotype that Americans wouldn't do the work that illegals do. Illegals do all kinds of jobs for less than minimum wage which drives the wages down for U.S. citizens. Construction jobs are an example. There are lots of illegals doing construction jobs that Americans used to do because the companies can keep more of the profits if they pay less for the workers. All that does is make companies wealthier and Americans poorer. Illegals are stealing jobs that Americans have done for years. \n\nIf you go to a country and refuse to assimilate, continuing to speak your own language then you are really not an immigrant -- you're a colonist ... and that's what the Mexicans are doing, they're colonizing the American Southwest as part of their "reconquista" Read about mecha in the link I provided and you'll see what the Mexicans real agenda is.\n\nhttp://www.americanpatrol.com/MECHA/MEChAindex.html\n\nMost Mexicans believe the Southwestern US rightfully belongs to Mexico; and most believe they should have the right to enter the US without government permission. –Zogby Poll (June 2002)\n\n~~~\n\nHalf of all Mexicans – over 50 million – would move to the US if given the opportunity. –Pew Hispanic Center (August 2005)\n\n~~~\n\n84% of Americans view Mexicans favorably.\n\nBut only 36% of Mexicans view Americans favorably.\n-only 26% of Mexicans say Americans are hard-working.\n-only 16% say Americans are honest.\n-and 73% say Americans are racist.\n\n-Zogby Poll (March 2006)\n\n~~~\n\nThe prohibitive cost of providing illegals with free healthcare has shut down more than 60 hospitals in California since 1993; many more are on the verge of closing. –Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (Spring 2005)\n\n~~~\n\nIllegals enter this country without health screening. Consequently, epidemic diseases from our past – polio, tuberculosis, plague, leprosy – are on the rise.\n\n~~~\n\nIllegals consume $69 billion in social services annually. –Rep. Russell Pearce (AZ)\n\n~~~\n\nAccording to the US Census, 96% of the increase in public school enrollment is due to immigration.\n\n~~~\n\nThe Federation for American Immigration Reform estimates that children of illegal immigrants cost public schools $28.6 billion annually.\n\n~~~\n\nIllegal immigrant labor depresses wages for American citizens by $200 billion a year. –Lou Dobbs, US News & World Report (01/31/05)\n\n~~~\n\nThe cost of illegal immigration to the American taxpayer is $55,000 per illegal. –Center for Immigration Studies (July 2001)\n\n~~~\n\nAccording to the US DEA, 92% of the cocaine sold in the US comes in through Mexico (2004) as does 65% of meth and
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Your problem is you are focusing on the "immigrant" part rather than the "illegal" part. For a majority of us fighting illegal immigration, all we are saying is "follow the legal procedures for immigrating here and pay into our system as we do to support your benefits you gain while here!" \n\nIf they did that, they'd be LEGAL immigrants and be entitled to at least minimum wage rather than the "I can get away with paying you pennies" wage because they can't get protection from the law.