Why do christians want prayer in school when jesus was against this type of prayer?
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That doesn't mean that you can't pray in schools or synagouges, you can pray in secret but also in public if it is sincere. That is what that verse means. Don't be as a hypocrite, praying for a show to the world and not being sincere.\nI think you misunderstand what that scripture means.
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"I'll pray for you!" Ah yes, the classic religious person's way of saying, "F*** you." Nine times out of ten, this line comes about when you refuse to agree on something and that is their final stance - if you won't agree, they're going to get their god to MAKE you agree because you couldn't possibly know what you think or what's best for you.\n\nIf prayer is so effective, why are there millions of starving children around the world? If prayer is so effective, what of the little girl who begs Jesus for her assailant to stop raping her at night? If prayer is so effective, why did six million Jews die during Hitler's reign? If prayer is so effective, why do we need oncology departments, and why are they always full?\n\nChristians often answer that "God moves in mysterious ways" or that "God will answer 'yes', 'no', or 'maybe' and you got a no." Nonsense. The Christian Bible says:\n\nJohn 14:13-14\n"And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything in My name, I will do it."\n\nMatthew 7:7-8\n"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened."\n\nJohn 16:23-24\n"Most assuredly, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in My name He will give you... Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full."\n\nThere are no conditions here at all. It simply says to ask and your request will be granted. Yet this does not happen. Even Christians who pray in Jesus' name do not have these verses fulfilled on a basis consistent enough to believe that Jesus is the one responsible.\n\nSo relax. Given the track record of failed prayers and desperate pleas, you have no reason to believe any prayers for you are being answered. :)
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There is nothing the governement can do to stop prayer in schools. The Establishment Clause, however, prevents the government from sanctioning prayer in public schools. Christianity was traditionally (and probably still is) the unofficial, official religion of the U.S. However, the founding fathers, all of whom recognized the downfalls of a state sanctioned church, specifically wrote the First Amendment "to prohibit the federal government from declaring and financially supporting a national religion, such as existed in many other countries at the time of the nation's founding.  It is far less clear whether the Establishment Clause was also intended to prevent the federal government from supporting Christianity in general.  Proponents of a narrow interpretation of the clause point out that the same First Congress that proposed the Bill of Rights also opened its legislative day with prayer and voted to apportion federal dollars to establish Christian missions in the Indian lands.  On the other hand, persons seeing a far broader meaning in the clause point to writings by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison suggesting the need to establish "a wall of separation" between church and state.\n...\nThe question of school-sponsored prayer has, of course, proven highly controversial.  In the landmark case of Engel v Vitale in 1962, the Court ruled that New York's practice of beginning school days with a prayer drafted by school officials violated the Establishment Clause.  This is the case, the Court said, whether or not students are given the option of not participating in the prayer.  Following Engel, the Court has faced a whole series of prayer-related cases in the public school context raising issues such a prayer in special circumstances (e.g., graduation ceremonies), periods for silent meditation or silent prayer, and student-initiated prayer.  In general, the Court has demonstrated a willingness to strike down any practices that might be likely to be perceived either as coercive or as a state endorsement of religion."\n\nIf you want to pray in public school, then pray. If you don't want to pray in public school, then don't. If you are a public school teacher and pray in school, do it silently and don't ask students to join you.
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obviosly being a bully would be worse, whats wrong with praying? The more we pray the better our schools will be and there will be less bullies.
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According to the Christian bible Jesus got angry and turned over tables in a synagogue and he also whipped people for selling birds. God does not behave like this and it contradicts Jesus' teaching according to that same bible. The doctrine of Jesus being "fully man and fully god" was not believed by the early Christians and the Roman church came to this conclusion by voting. That's right, let's vote to determine what god is. f that.
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because they don't understand that there is a difference between supporting freedoms and rights... and supporting ideas...\n\nit's like the old "I would fight for the KKKs right to free speech, even though I very much dislike what they have to say"...\n\napplying conservative thought to that last example, they would think that anyone who fights for the KKKs right to free speech is a supporter of the KKK and it's ideas... \n\nthey demonstrate this "logic" in almost everything they label "liberal"... which most of the time, it's just supporting someones rights or freedoms to do something and not the action in question... \n\nthey think if someone stands up for someones rights to not hear a teacher-led Christian class prayer... that the person is against Christian prayer... which the majority of the time... nothing can be farther from the truth...
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Taking mandatory prayer out of the schools is a good thing. (No, I'm not a Satanic worshiper). The reason being is because there are so many different cultures in America, along with so many different religions. I wouldn't want my children "forced" to say a prayer in any religion. \n\nAt my High School, every morning, the FCA and teens from different churches would meet together at the flagpoles, hold hands around it and say a prayer. There was never anyone who tried to "ban" this activity because they were not imposing their religious belief on others. \nReligion will never fully be removed from the lives of children. Most of History tells a great deal about different religions...the rise and falls of. \n\nHowever, I do believe it is wrong to take "one nation under God" out of the pledge of allegiance. They already have it that a kid doesn't have to say that line if they, or their parents do not believe in God. \n\nIf a person wants their child to be raised in a religious environment, then their parents should send them to a private school based on their religion. In the mean time, pulic schools need to stay unbiased in religion because so many different religions attend public school. \n\nOh, and no, I don't believe Satan has won. He will never win. He is no God. He is a fallen angel, but like us, he is still a creation of God. He's like a little boy at the Mall who throws a fit because his mother won't buy him a piece of candy. He gets punished, but still sulks in the corner...mad now because he didn't get his way and that he was punished. This is how I view Satan. \n\nI hope I have answered your question. Best wishes.
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Separation of church and state (government) Religion is not banned, I learned about muslims, jewish, greek mythology, ancient egyptian religions. The thing about teaching Christianity is that there are so many fine differences that people currently practice, parents do not want their children to be taught that 'thou shalt not make unto thy self any graven image which is in heaven or on earth to worship" This especially pi$$es of catholics. Thus we have no christianity in schools.
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Ever hear , "please don't pee in my pool, I don't swim in your toilet."?\n\nThey are asking (in a very condescending way), why is it okay for non-religious people to exercise their beliefs in the domain of religious people, while religious people may not exercise their beliefs in the domain of thinking people.\n\nWhat they are incorrectly assuming is...\n1) All non-religious people want to think in church (most don't even GO to church)\n2) Thinking is a religion\n3) Schools shouldn't have rules\n\nIf religious people REALLY want to pray in school, nobody is stopping them.  They simply must pray in their heads.  The truth is, they just want to be pains in the butt.  In fact, by making the statement on the bumper-sticker, they are actually ridiculing themselves, because it implies that praying people prefer not to think.\n\nCan't imagine why they don't see this (ha ha)!
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Prayer is masturbation.  I wouldn't want Jerky Falwell doing either while thinking of me, and especially not in a public place.\n\nUnwelcome "prayer" is always offensive, especially since most of it is wishing for someone to die, wishing for someone to burn in hell, or wishing for someone to be forced to agree with the violator.\n\n\n.
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Good question:  What we have now is a variety of religions in the U.S. and everyone wants their religion in the schools.  It has created a problem and the Govt. has gone completely atheist.  (no God in the Govt.)  Anyway I think all christian children should go to Christian schools.  It cost me a bundle to do it with mine, and it was worth it.  The public school is not neutral, but really anti Christian and a hard place for a Christian.  Pray about going to a Christian school.  Maybe someone would sponsor you for that.  Pray about it.
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Students can already pray to themselves. I do not think it would be wise for a school official, which is a government paid employee (thus making them an agent of the government). Unless they could pray something that would be universal to all people (which this seems unlikely) it would undoubtably show favor towards one religion and this violates the first amendment.\n\nAs a Hindu, I would be very unhappy to have my children being led at graduation, assemblys, etc, to prayers that are not within my religious tradition. It is the role of the parent to teach the religion, the role of the parent to practice it in the home, and the role of the houses of worship to assist the parents...not schools. \n\nI mean, can you even imagine a prayer that is all inclusive:\n\n"Thank you"\n\nI mean, what else could you say. You cannot start saying a name, every religion and sect, etc has a different name for the divine and you cannot directly even state whether there is a divine anything since this violates the religious freedom of those who are either not sure of the existence of divinity or outright do not believe in it. You cannot state scriptures or anything else. \n\nSo my answer remains no.
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my understanding is that when you pray for a covering of the blood of Jesus Christ, you are praying for the protection His blood offers us.  I've heard it used when people are going into situations that may be spiritually dangerous for them, where they will be susceptible to the influence of satan.  For this, they pray for the protection of Jesus' blood so that they can withstand the spiritual assault they might face.
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The Puritans opposed the catholic system of education based on the catechism. This catechism taught belief in God could be achieved by following fixed rules. Attendance at Mass, repeating certain prayers ( see indulgences), private confession for the forgiveness of sins.\nThe Puritans suggested that the later allowed you to commit serious sins but then have them written-off by absolution at confession.\nPuritan education REJECTED the need for a "mediator" between God and  (wo)man. (This was the role of the catholic priest.)\nThey believed and taught that 'justification by faith' was the route to salvation not by repetitive prayers or using aids such as statues, rosaries, stained glass windows and organs. Hence the removal and desecration of these objects in the churches. The reject the dogma of "The divine right of Kings" suggesting Kings/Queens rule by and under God's authority.\n\nWhat is generally mis-understood about the Puritan "Pilgrim Fathers" was their objection to a regulated form of worship ( see Act of Uniformity and the Prayerbook). They rejected the Elizabethan settlement of 1559.They wanted the chance to worship in a free spontaneous method " as the Spirit moved them".  This is still the basis of the Society of Friends (Quakers).\nThey also believed in mutual support and co-operation rather than centrally controlled funding and discipline.
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There are some Christians who feel this is wrong.  One of the Ten Commandments say not to make any idol (or image).  Some have felt that such images are making an idol.  If you inted to pray before the image of Christ, or kiss the picture, or anything of that sort, I would say it is wrong.  If you are just putting it up to remind you to think of your Lord Jesus, it is probably a wonderful idea.
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Fundamentalists challenge the Catholic practice of asking saints and angels to pray for us. But the Bible directs us to invoke those in heaven and ask them to pray with us. \n\nThus in Psalm 103, we pray, "Bless the Lord, O you his angels, you mighty ones who do his word, hearkening to the voice of his word! Bless the Lord, all his hosts, his ministers that do his will!" (Ps. 103:20-21). And in Psalm 148 we pray, "Praise the Lord! Praise the Lord from the heavens, praise him in the heights! Praise him, all his angels, praise him, all his host!" (Ps. 148:1-2) \n\nNot only do those in heaven pray with us, they also pray for us. In Revelation, John sees that "the twenty-four elders [the leaders of the people of God in heaven] fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints" (Rev. 5:8). Thus the saints in heaven offer to God the prayers of the saints on earth. \n\nAngels do the same thing: "[An] angel came and stood at the altar [in heaven] with a golden censer; and he was given much incense to mingle with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar before the throne; and the smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God" (Rev. 8:3-4). \n\nJesus himself warned us not to mess with small children because their guardian angels have guaranteed intercessory access to the Father: "See that you do not despise one of these little ones; for I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven." (Matt. 18:10). \n\nBecause he is the only God-man, Jesus is the only Mediator between man and God (1 Tim. 2:5), but this in no way means we cannot or should not ask our fellow Christians to pray with us and for us (1 Tim. 2:1-4), including those Christians in heaven, who have already had their sanctification completed, for "[t]he prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects" (Jas. 5:16).
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I taught my son to pray for others just as he prays for himself...actually more than he prays for his own needs..but to pray for the needs of others..and to be an answer to prayer if given the opportunity to help another person ..to always be watchful to those in need you may be the answer to someone elses prayer