Do Illegals Cost? Prove it, with specific numbers!?
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some cause cost, some contribute. \nmuch like the "legal" population.\nstatistics can be deceiving and usually do just that.
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Great point!!! It might go over Pro-illegals heads though...
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I became a permanent resident without the help of a lawyer! It was just me and my wife! I will give you a rough estimate according to recent cost increase: I-485, $255.00    I-130 $130.00 ,I-765 $120.00, Fingerprinting fee $50.00 , Medical exam: $300.00 (Varies) ,I - 751 $ 200.00 (two years later) . I-765 $120.00 ( maybe a year later)  and finally N-400 $310.00 (three years later). \nWhich gives a grand total of $1175.00 for a green card and $1485.00 for citizenship if included! Find a lawyer who can beat that!!.
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You are 100% correct.  As soon as the illegals become legal, they will demand more wages.  That puts us right back where we started.
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Illegal immigration in the US???
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Illegally -- How Else ???
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I had to read this about 6 times....but I got it.  \n\nThe key word is "illegal".\n\nI tried to make a valid argument to disagree......but I couldn't...you covered all your bases.  \n\nYou make your point....in a very ugly, condescending and ridiculous way...but you make it.  I wish I could do that.
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frank_austin_jr, on what planet do you live.  I got an idea.  Why don't YOU pay for all the benefits that illegal Mexicans get?  Don't forget about getting signs in Spanish.
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U.S. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR\n\n\nAppropriate Procedures. Unemployment benefit payments to illegal aliens can, largely, be prevented by more careful verification before a first payment is made. Following is the recommended general procedure for implementing a verification system. Specific procedures must be developed jointly with the INS.\n\nWhen a claimant indicates that he or she is not a U.S. citizen, the claimant should be asked to produce his or her immigration document. If the claimant does not have a document, he or she should be advised that no determination of eligibility will be made until such time as the claimant returns to the local office with the required document\n\n        Immigrant Entry and Native Exit \n\nLooking first at all workers shows that between March 2000 and March 2005 only 9 percent of the net increase in jobs for adults (18 to 64) went to natives. This is striking because natives accounted for 61 percent of the net increase in the overall size of the 18 to 64 year old population. \n\n\nAs for the less-educated, between March of 2000 and 2005 the number of adult immigrants (legal and illegal) with only a high school degree or less in the labor force increased by 1.6 million. \n\nA national unemployment rate of 5 percent is irrelevant to the current debate over illegal immigration because illegals are overwhelmingly employed in only a few occupations, done mostly by workers with only a high school degree or less. In these high-illegal occupations, native unemployment averages 10 percent — twice the national average. Moreover, the unemployment rate does not consider the growing percentage of less-educated workers who are not even looking for work and have left the labor market altogether. It would be an oversimplification to assume that each job taken by an immigrant is a job lost by a native. What is clear is that the last five years have seen a record level of immigration. At the same time, the unemployment rate of less-educated natives has remained high and the share that have left the labor force altogether has grown significantly. Wage growth has also generally been weak. Thus it is very hard to see any evidence of a labor shortage that could justify allowing illegal aliens to stay or to admit more as guestworkers. Rather, the available evidence suggests that immigration may be adversely impacting less-educated natives. The statistical findings of this study are consistent with other research that has looked at the pattern of immigrant job gains and native loses in recent years\nhttp://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back206.html\n\n\n\nThe U.S. unemployment rate today is at the highest level in 20 years. \nMillions of hard-working Americans who are desperate for jobs can't find them, and both the short term and long term prospects do not bode well for many American workers.\n\nThe economic problems we face would be bad enough if all we had to contend with were a recovering economy, the continued threat of terrorism, and increased competition from foreign companies. \n\nBut a Congress that should be looking for ways to help unemployed Americans is busy opening the floodgates to millions of new immigrants who take jobs away from Americans - and also helping companies take the remaining jobs offshore.\n\nIt almost appears that our government is committed to making sure everybody in the world has a job - except Americans.\n\nHistorically, the U.S. admitted around 300,000 legal immigrants per year, but Congress changed our immigration policies back around 1965 and opened the floodgates. We now allow more than a MILLION legal immigrants into the country each year. A small number of these are refugees; some have special skills not easily found here. But an increasingly large percentage of those pouring through our borders are undereducated, unskilled workers who threaten the income of blue-collar workers, the backbone of America. Millions more come here each year ILLEGALLY, and the government does nothin
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I will never pay for that! How can I get this through peoples heads? Illegals have no rights here, they are not citizens therefore they have no rights.
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It's about freakin time! Illegal Aliens cost the US billions of dollars a year. Yes that's right billions with a B. Think about it. Millions of impoverished, uneducated, people pour into a country of higher living standards. What happens? Tax dollars (that means money that you and I work hard for and is supposed to go towards making life better of everyone) now have to be set aside to pay for social programs like wefare checks, food stamps, government housing, medical care ect for all these people who broke our laws by sneaking into the country with their hands out. Then when they start having all the kids then even more tax money has to be spent not to mention the overcrowed schools which by the way fall drastically in test scores because Hispanic people in general don't give a rats ass about education or learing english. Unlike other immigrants from other countries, Hispanics for whatever reason just cannot bring themselves to pull themselves upward. So the burden to support all these people falls on us taxpayers. Now maybe some of you don't mind the Socialist way the government is taking your hard earned money and giving it to people who have no right to be here but most of the country sees the problems it's creating. Just look at SoCal, Arizona and Texas. For illegal immigration to be stopped three things need to happen:\n\n1) Cut off all tax funded social programs for illegals.\n\n2) Start going after businesses that hire illegals and fine the daylights out of them.\n\n3) Get rid of the law that grants citizenship to babies born on American soil to non-citizens. This will end the anchor baby epidemic.\n\noh yeah and a 4th: Build a wall at the boarder and put the military to patrol.\nTrust me, the costs of doing this will be far cheaper then having to pay the living expenses for most of a poor country. Mexico has to get the message that it can no longer dump it's massive poverty problem on us.
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Deport them - 500 Billion\nKeep them here - 500 Trillion\nFreedom - priceless\n\nArnold said 500 billion till i listened to the Border Patrol how we're being lied to.  I wrote Arnold and told him he was wrong.
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HERE HERE!!! And what's with them EXPECTING a free handout that they never paid one dime into......ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL!!! If they want to immigrate thru proper channels, more power to them.
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You are right. It is all of the things you have mentioned and more. It is one colossal mis calculation after the next. America has definitely stepped up it's tone on illegals, and it's not really the government, it's the American people. The fact that these illegals tried to demand something that they have not earned is just outrageous. If the demonstrations were a bid to ask the Americans for help to rid Mexico of the corruption and strangle hold the drug families have on the economy then i think they would be in business. Instead, they march on American cities demanding rights and free passage while flying a foreign nations flag. Really, really bad judgment.
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First of all you need to define your terms. in your question you stated "hate" and "illegal". In your support, you stated "immigrants". There is a VERY large difference.\n\nBasically that illegals are here ILLEGALLY!\n\nIt appears that your statements are based on a vile dislike of the word "Republican". Illegals do not steal the jobs of fat cat Republicans, they steal them from the high school kid next door trying to save for college or buy his first car. they steal from the public because they demand serviuces and goods but are not taxed to support those goods and services. In essence, they arent pulling their own weight. Are you stating that you approve of freeloaders? \n\nAs an aside, did you know that if you added up the number of people who you consider fat cats, did you know that 3 of every 4 fat cats are liberal democrats, as stated by the federal General Accounting Office? I use the word "rich" here, and i define it as anyone making over half a million dollars a year.\n\nSo i recommend that you define your terms and your position before you go firing volleys based on hate, and make sure your arguments are complete and accurate.
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Well there is really no way to know how many illegal ones come since they are undocumented. So every website you go to is just going to be estimating. This website says how many entered up to 2004: http://www.dhs.gov/ximgtn/statistics/
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Don't forget that these illegals are stealing.  "The phrase "cheap labor" is  a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor." Take, for example,an illegal  Mexican who sneaks in here with his wife and five children. He takes a job for five or six dollars an hour. At that wage with six dependents \nhe pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free. He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent, food stamps, and free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care. His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school, and require bi-lingual teachers and books that taxpayers provide. He doesn't have to worry about car insurance, life insurance, or home owners insurance. Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins, and printed material.  He cannot be fired, harassed, or sued. He and his family receive the equivalent of $20 to $30 an hour in  benefits, while working Americans are lucky to have $5 or $6 an hour left after paying their bills and his, and paying for increased crime, graffiti, and trash cleanup.  Cheap labor?   My ace.  I call it theft, even if we "leave the keys in the car."