How verses were raveled to Jesus and how those verses were preserved as being revealed?
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JOHN 5:19\n   Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.\n \nJOHN 5:30\n    I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.\n \nJOHN 8:28\n    Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.\n\nMATTHEW 16:17\n    And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.\n \nJOHN 14:26\n    But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.\n \nI JOHN 2:27\n    But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.\n\nI CORINTHIANS 2:9-13\n   9    But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. \n   10    But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.\n   11    For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. \n   12    Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. \n   13    Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.\n\nEPHESIANS 1:9\n    Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:\n \nEPHESIANS 3:3-5\n   3    How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, \n   4    Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ ) \n   5    Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit\n\nMATTHEW 13:11-13\n   11    He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.\n   12    For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.\n   13    Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.\n \nhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/bibletruths_forbelievers/
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Hi Ben so happy that you have found the Lord,and yes you cannot really understand the Old Testament writings untill you have come to believe and know Jesus as your Saviour, and when you do this His Spirit of truth reveals the mysteries to you.
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I did a bunch of searches on google and on bartleby.com (an excellent reference site that has an entire section on verse). the closest thing I could find was this passage from the bible: \n\nNUMBER:1316\nQUOTATION:Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: for where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.\nATTRIBUTION:Bible: New Testament Jesus, in Matthew, 6:19-21.\n \nDo you remember where you saw or heard the poem? That might help a bit.
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Nothing is really known about Jesus, including whether he actually existed.  All the stuff written about him was written decades after he supposedly died.
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For an interesting book on what got included in the Bible and what got changed read Misquoting Jesus : The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why by Bart Ehrman. As for the many Vatican treasures you might want to take a look at the book In the Footsteps of Popes: A Spirited Guide to the Treasures of the Vatican by Enrico Bruschini. Happy reading.
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This is true. :) Matthew (Levi) did [seem to] want to prove to the Jewish that Jesus was actually the Messiah, thus all the Old Testament stuff.\nI would guess an original Hebrew copy cannot be found because of the persecution. The Greek copies were probably made prior to the Hebrew version being destroyed. The copies were likely sent out to others, while the copier, I would imagine kept the original for himself to use. Only specualtion, of course.\n\n***\nOh, and borrowing heavily from Mark? Probably because the gospel was written a time after the events occured. He may have wanted to keep his facts straight. Or it could have been a coincidence, seeing as there were writing about the same thing.
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:]\nThe copy of the Gospel of Judas was in Egyptian, therefore a copy from the original language (Greek). It is a single manuscript copied about 300AD, the only other knowledge that we have of its existence is that one of the Church fathers spoke against the veracity of a book by the same claimed author in 160 AD.\nIt's amazing to me that the same people who doubt the New Testament (24000 ancient manuscripts) would jump to accept this.\nWe know that Judas died in about 33 ad and would probably not have had enough time or the mental and emotional stability to write anything like a new gospel in the short time he lived after the events (included in that gospel) regarding the death of  Christ.\nWhat we have is a single manuscript, in the wrong language, dating to more than 250 years after the death of the claimed   author. a denial of it veracity and tons of scriptural evidence against it, and the integrity of it's alleged author\nsome prefer to suspect that the holy spirit made a significant error of omission in assembling the word that Jesus had promised would be sure and would pass away even if heaven and earth did.\nNo I relegate it to the same shelf of malarkey as i do the other gospels (Thomas, Phillip, Barnabas, Mary and any others )
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The time of Jesus to find out what the truth really is.
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You compare what you think Jesus is telling to Scripture.  Does what he said in your dream jive with the rest of the Bible?  That is the best way to know.
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Scriptures are given by God and are True from the Beginning\n\n\nThe Holy Scriptures are not the private interpretation of men (2 Pe.1:20 below), but they are given by God through the Holy Spirit.   ALL Scripture is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness (2 Pe.1:21, 2 Tim.3:16, 2 Samuel 23:2, Eph.3:5 below).\n\nGod’s word is true from the beginning (Ps.119:160 below).\n\nGod is the God of truth (Ps.31:5, Deut.32:4, Ps.25:5, Jn.17:17 below). \n\nAll Scripture is given by inspiration of God (2 Tim.3:16 below).\n\nThe spirit of Truth will guide you into all truth (Jn.16:13 below)\n\nIf a religious author’s writings do not speak according to the Holy Bible, there is no light in them (Isa.8:20 below).\n\n\n2 Pe.1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.\n\n2 Pe.1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.\n\n2 Tim.3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:\n\n2 Samuel 23:2 The Spirit of the LORD spake by me (David), and his word [was] in my tongue.\n\nEph.3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;\n\nPs.119.160Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.\n\nPs.31:5 Into Thine hand I commit my spirit; Thou hast redeemed me, O LORD God of truth.\n\nDeut. 32:4  He is the Rock, His work is perfect; for all His ways are judgment, a God of truth and without iniquity; just and right is He.\n\nPs.25:5Lead me in Thy truth and teach me, for Thou art the God of my salvation; on Thee do I wait all the day.\n\nJn.17:17Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.\n\n2 Tim.3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:\n\nJn.16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.\n\nIsa.8:20  To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.\n\n\n\nPat (ndbpsa ©)
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Every scribe that translated or rewrote would have added the notes in the margins from previous scribes, and then added their own notes. \n\nThe stories passed down are inspired by the word of God, are manipulated by kings and pharisees and written by men.\n\nNothing surprises me.
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The Holy Scriptures were originally written in Hebrew and Greek, of which physical manuscripts actually exist. I cannot remember where they are located, but some texts are located in museums.\n\nTo preserve the text of the Holy Scriptures, exact copies were carefully penned by hand from the orginals (manuscript [manual script - written by hand]) - symbol by symbol (the individuals who copied them dared not alter anything; if "one" symbol was wrong, the whole manuscript was discarded).\n\nThe Bible is from the Greek word "biblios" - or books; written over a period of 1,500 years by over 40 different men. Archeologists actually look at the Bible as a historical document, and use it as a reference; because it is a record "of living history" that reveals the names and locations of people who actually lived thousands of years ago.\n\nIf you research the subject of "Bible Archeology" you will discover that the "physical evidence" of things that are referenced in the Bible actually existed. This reinforces the accuracy of what is written.\n\nNow any historical document has to be taken on "faith" - even books and newspapers written 200 years ago. They were written by people who lived in the past and are accepted as something that is true; the Bible is no different.\n\nWhat makes the scriptures "holy" is not men, but God. In that the "holy scriptures" were "God-breathed" or inspired by God.\n\nhttp://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2Pe/2Pe001.html#21\n\n2 Peter 1:\n\n16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. 19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.\n\nThe Apostle Peter wrote a letter about an event he witnessed himself, where he actually heard God "literally" speak.\n\nhttp://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat017.html#5\n\nMatthew 17:\n\n1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, 2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. 4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. 5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. 6 And when the disciples heard [it], they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. 7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid. 8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only.  9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead. \n\nNotice that Christ took three disciples with Him. Christ knew what was about to happen, and He made sure that there were three men there to witness it. This is according to a law written in the Old Testament about requiring the testimony of at least two or three witnesses to verify the truth of a claim.\n\nDeuteronomy 17:6 At the mouth of
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The Bible isn't a single document that some guy cranked out on parchment in his spare time. It is the record of God's revelation to mankind, written over a period of over a thousand years, accurately copied and passed on. It is a series of historical documents written by many authors.\n\nSimon Greenleaf, one of the greatest experts in evidence of all time, who doubted Christianity was true, was once challenged to examine the evidence for Jesus. After careful analysis he concluded:\n\n"The religion of Jesus Christ... not only solicits the grave attention of all, to whom its doctrines are presented, but it demands their cordial belief as a matter of vital concernment.  These are no ordinary claims; and it seems hardly possible for a rational being to regard them with even a subdued interest; much less to treat them with mere indifference and contempt."\n\nThe second reference below contains a powerful essay he wrote. If you're just blowing smoke you won't of course be interested. But if you dare to read a powerful statement that might change your mind, then kindly read it.
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3rd or 4th-century document called "The Gospel of Judas" was launched upon an unsuspecting world yesterday by no less a biblical authority than the National Geographic magazine in Washington. Its contents were "explosive", according to Mario Roberty, president of the Swiss foundation which now owns the ancient papyrus manuscript. \n\nSo as the heat faded from the television lights at the press conference, has 2000 years of orthodox Christianity been overturned? Well, not quite. But it was all jolly interesting, for those who love that sort of thing.\n\nHalf of the 62-page codex, written in Coptic script, is devoted to an account of the final days of Jesus Christ written from the viewpoint of the man who has for two millennia been excoriated as Christ's deadly betrayer. The text begins: "The secret account of the revelation that Jesus spoke in conversation with Judas Iscariot three days before he celebrated Passover..."
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Start with Rev. 22:18-21\nThen go to the book of Jude (book before Revelation).\nAfter that book, continue each book until you get to Matthew.\nIt's awesome and very revealing.
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Most of the "Gospels" that were not included in the Bible have been dated to about the second century. The books of the New Testament were all written either by eyewitnesses to the events or people who spoke with those eyewitnesses. Many of the books refer to other books of the New Testament as scripture. It certainly wasn't one person who "got to pick what would go into the Bible."\n\nAdded:\nThe language and content of the Gospel of Thomas is consistend with the second century, not the first. It was written after all the eyewitnesses were dead. It's pretty easy to write a book about events that happened two hundred years ago, since no eyewitnesses are around to refute it. Also, some of the things in the Gospel of Thomas don't line up with the rest of the Bible. The gospels (and other New Testament books) that are included in the Bible were written at a time when eyewitnesses to the events were still around to refute it. Luke, for instance, was most likely written within 30 years of Jesus' death. Paul, in 1 Corinthians 15, actually lists names of eyewitnesses and tells the church in Corinth that most of the eyewitnesses were still alive when he was writing.
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In written form through the Bible.