Why don't illegals put more pressure on the true source of their poverty- Vicente Fox's corrupt government?
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This Is All ABOUT Fox\n\nIts A POLITICAL Coup\n\nHES The One Behind It ALL\nHE Sends Em Here
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HERES You RACISM- I Hope You CHOKE On It\n\nA close, personal friendship with President George W. Bush has given Mexicos President Vicente Fox the opportunity to purposely allow (or even send) Millions of Criminals, Thugs, Anarchists, and Potential Terrorists to swarm over our southern border in breathtaking numbers. (Nearly half of all illegal aliens currently living in the U.S. came here since Bush became president in 2000.)  \n\n\n\nMexico's President Fox has been unrelenting in his brazen demands on the United States, starting with open borders even before he was elected. He has called for the border to be “a joining line.” His visits to the U.S. have been filled with endless requirements for Mexican citizens illegally in this country — free healthcare, taxpayer-subsidized in-state tuition for illegals at state colleges and universities, guestworker programs and amnesty for all. \n\n                                                             **************************\n\nMexican American Legal Defense Fund founder Mario Obledo stated, “California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like it should leave. Every constitutional office in California is going to be held by Hispanics in the next 20 years.  People who don't like such demographic changes “should go back to Europe.” (Incidentally,  Senor  Obledo was also the California Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Gov. Jerry Brown.) \n\nMario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton, "California is going to be a Hispanic state.  Anyone who doesn't like it should leave." \n\n\nObledo Is A Member Of "MEChA" And "LA RAZA"\n\n                                                 ********************\n\nThe newly "ELECTED"mayor, Antonio Villaraigosa, joined the lawbreakers and proclaimed "this bill in Congress is wrong". Señor Villaraigosa said "The only thing illegal is making 11 million illegal aliens felons." Yeah, he Actually said that. People should make no mistake about it: Villaraigosa was "ELECTED" by ILLEGALs VOTING, and HIS Allegiance, along with the rest of these "ELECTED" public officials in California of Mexican ancestry is to Mexico, not California or these United States of America. Villaraigosa has spent a lifetime opposing U.S. immigration laws.\n\nVillaraigosa is A Member Of  "MEChA"  and  " LA RAZA"\n\n                                               *********************\n\nMEChA and the La Raza movement teach that Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington State make up an area known as "AZTLAN" -- a fictional ancestral homeland of the Aztecs before Europeans arrived in North America. As such, it belongs to the followers of MEChA. These are all areas America should surrender to "La Raza" once enough immigrants, legal or illegal, enter to claim a majority, as in Los Angeles. The current borders of the United States will  be extinguished.\n\n \n\n The Council of La Raza succeeded in having itself added to congressional hearings by Republican House and Senate leaders. And an anonymous senator even gave the Council of La Raza an extra $4 million in earmarked taxpayer money, supposedly for "housing reform," while La Raza continues to lobby the Senate for virtual open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens. \n\n\n\n               http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=13863\n\n                      \n\n"We have an aging white America ... They are dying ...We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him." Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas, Arlington and founder
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Oh heck no if that was to happen it would be the ghetto of the USA. I read in an artitical a few week back where Vincente Fox of Mexico was talking to some people of Columbia saying that the Mexicans were going to over rule our government. Don't know how true the source really was but as daddy says talk is cheap.
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Everything you said is true true true. Also Mexico is not a poor country. It is just poorer in relative to us. Like you living next door to Bill Gates.\nIllegals are a product for Mexican government in remittance at a tune of $54 billion a year. Pres.V. Fox just gave himself a $28,000 raise. He make more then the presidents/Priminsters of France, Germany and Canada.\n\nThey need to stay and demand their country work. If they can get organized down there like they had up here May 1st they might make changes. \n\nGo to the Travel section of Q&A get into the Mexico site and ask the question there. I have met some real nice and smart people like Chess, Joo, Just Me and others asking questions there. Gypsy.
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Cause: Mexican government corruption keeping people poor while they live like fat cats, Mexicans see opportunity for better wage and ability to support families, Big money corporations exploiting people on both sides,  Federal government lax in enforcing immigration and customs laws,\n \nEffect: driving down wages and creating a larger separation between rich and poor. Racism and fear on the rise, lack of faith in the government, despair, poverty, hunger and resentment.
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absolutely, Mexico is a good example.  Where a few super rich control the government.  Have drug lords controling the rest.  Keep the populous in abject poverty.  The brutality is over whelming.  The masses could over throw the few and take back there government and establish one that isn't so corrupt.  That would benefit the people.\nimmigrateing to America while understandable is hardly the answer.
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Yes\n\n(Guys below: or the illegals are getting nowadays more than what they give or not. If they are getting less, then stop complaining on how they are abusing the system. If they get more, then admit that by making them legal, though you may not like the idea, they will be paying taxes to give back what they get from welfare.)
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I suspect we can't afford the war we are already fighting.  I don't understand what you think he has to protect his people from.  Most of them on the northern border are waiting to wade across the river, and any additional military presence there would sure cut down on the illegal immigration problem.  As poor as Mexico is, I think the reason they don't crack down more on that is because it helps solve a problem for them.  They have fewer poor citizens to support, and those people often cross the border, get jobs and send money back home to family.  It's kind of a win-win for the government.
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hadenough, I agree totally.  There are plenty of countries that are more poverty stricken than Mexico and the other Latino countries.  The students from those countries come here LEGALLY, get great educations and then, many of them return to help their people. Being poor is no excuse to break laws of another country.They aren't coming here because of being poor, or to feed their starving families. They are coming here to infiltrate our communities, slink into neighborhoods. Have babies like rabbits to increase their population and then when America is sticking its head further into the sand, they will have become the majority and the USA will be controlled by that majority vote and everyone will be pushing a button for "English" or the message will automatically be in Spanish.
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My husband is a third generation born American Mexican, that would never put Mexico before America.  He is angry that for the last 20 years that he has been working, he has been forced to work for low wages because of his Mexican heritage.  He despises these criminals, and the image these people set about who the Mexican people really are.  Since his parents are forth generation Americans, I have advised them to stop supporting the corruption by illegals, and illegal votes by refusing to pay any more federal, or federally imposed state taxes.  This tax exempt right is availble to all Americans who are forth generation or more.\nBy doing this Americans can force the government to recover the trillions of dollars lost in federal taxes from the illegals in our country.  If Americans force the cost of living for these crooks up higher, and make them pay the federal taxes that sponsor the programs to support them maybe they will think that it is not a good place to come to.  While these illegals are working to support my government, I am going to push back in place the programs that American tax dollars paid for, for the American Citizens, and real immigrants.  Illegals have already shown that if they can't get the services for free, they don't want them.
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It´s a lovely idea, but doesn´t sound like anything the current US administration would go for.  After all, while hyping the immigration issue in the media and, frankly, whipping up racism, they are also quite happy to turn a blind eye to US businesses using cheap illegal labour. It´s happening in all western countries at the moment.  The media, backed by the government, incites its citizens to be worried about illegal immigration, while the economy actually benefits from the black market economy working with it. I´m in Mexico now on holiday, but staying with family.  It´s a hard place, with a bad atmosphere.  It definitely needs some help, but everyone here says the corruption is so far reaching, there is no hope.  Your idea is nice but too socialist for anyone in today´s political arena and, like Iraq, would require serious investment, commitment and integrity..... never forget it´s all about the money.
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If we open our arms to all poor mexicans we are sending a message... "Please come in and exploit our country, dont worry about our laws because we dont enforce them anyway."  If this happens we will become a third world country.  You cant just take all the poor people from one country and send them here and expect them to have better lives.  Thats just picking up the problem and moving it somewhere else.
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No it's the American people that are that naive. The people talk this family value crud and then turn a blind eye to the corruption in the government they claim they believe in. If you look with open eyes at the state our government is in today you would either have to be really pissed or just be too stupid to not see the sell out going on today.\n\nSure they can miss a 10 ton shipment of coke because they DON"T CARE about that. Just the same as their bullsh*t about only 11 million ILLEGAL Mexicans in this country instead of the TRUE number that is over 30 MILLION. Oh but that's right we have 30 million Americans that don't want a job according to the BushPig administration.
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So far the government has been a failure in response to poverty. Social programs don't work as they allow for to many people to cheat. How ever the Clinton approach was closest to the best in my opinion, he helped to create an environment where everybody that wanted to work could get a job. His welfare to work program, raising taxes on the very rich and reinvesting it in the poor without giving it to them might be something that needs to be looked into closer. Education is an influence on poverty. Everybody needs to be something whether it is a taxi driver or a doctor everybody has potential for something.
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HERE HERE!!! And what's with them EXPECTING a free handout that they never paid one dime into......ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL!!! If they want to immigrate thru proper channels, more power to them.
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They have a class system.  The do not want a middle class at all all those that are beneath the rich and ruling class are to stay that way.  But like most of cultures people continue to have babies, and those babies grow up and cause a drain on the rich and ruling class.  There needs to be away to feed, cloth and keep them settled so that they will not fight to overthrow a cruel and unjust government.  So what better way than to drive them out of the homeland and into that of another country.  For their government could care less if they lived or died (do you think there is water in the desert for those of us traveling to Mexico illegally) and much less what really happens to them here. \n\n Mexico is a corrupt government that only aids to the desparate state of being that their people are in.  Flying into Mexico City, by the way, which if very beautilful, one can see as far as the eye, roof tops of cardboard boxes.  One can drive down US Hwy 10 on the West side of El Paso and see conditions across the board that are just horrifing.  One can drive into Juazes and see the manison with their great walls around them, and people lining the streets in filth and hunger.  Their government does not want them there, so whats a few million, drive them N. and get them out of Mexico, so that we may have their lands and not worry about their existence.  Of course if we can use them ( the millions they drive from Mexico)in such a way as to get America to give us more and do more for us then so be it.  And if they can use them (with lies that they are entitled to something in this land), the poor driven souls to cause unrest in America then they are for that.  \n\nIts called all for me and none for you government.  There is a very small ruling class in Mexico, they rule with an iron hand.  \n\nKiss the ground you live and work on, for it is not like another on earth.  And those that come here both legally and illegally know this, that is why they still come!
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I agree.  The idea that you can drive over the border for a visit and then stay for a couple of days and have your baby here free, because they can't refuse them medical help, then they get free food stamps and everything else that goes along with it.  I have mexican friends who are legal here and they say that the ones who come in illegally know all the tricks to get money from the government that we who live here know nothing about.  Their friends show them the ropes.  This is wrong.  CHANGE Mexico first.  It is a great country with lots of resources but a corrupt government.  The people have to change it there first.  We are overrun with illegals here in TEXAS.