In religious texts when do doctrine errors and changes start hitting the realm of a lie?
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Anything that's not true is a lie.
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After learning Bible truths, it would be tragic if one regressed to false worship!  The Bible describes the sad consequences of such a course when it says:  “Certainly if, after having escaped from the defilement of the world by an accurate knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they get involved again with these very things and are overcome, the final conditions have become worse for them than the first ... The saying of the true proverb has happened to them:  “The dog has returned to its own vomit, and the sow that was bathed to rolling in the mire.”  2 Peter 2:20-22.\n\nTo the rest of us:\n\nWe must remain alert to anything that can endanger our spirituality.  The apostle Paul warns:  “The inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons.”  1 Tim. 4:1 We live in “later periods of time.”  Those who do not keep clear of false worship can be “tossed about as by waves and carried hither and thither by every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in contriving error.”  Eph. 4:13,14.
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I've always held the belief that the Bible has been changed to fit the beliefs of whoever commissioned the latest translation.  It's no surprise to me at all that some of the stories were tacked on later as some were removed when they didn't fit in with what was being taught at the time.  \n\nWhy is the Bible supposedly above scrutiny?  Why is it that when people question whether or not it was written and re-written by men, people freak out?  In this day and age, if somebody were to claim they were divinely inspired to write a holy book, we'd call them nuts.  But, we should just believe that this particular group of men really were divinely inspired?
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Don't be deceived my friend by the DaVinci Deception....\nThe Scripture foretold of deceptions like these....\n\n" Now the Spirit speaks expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, speaking lies in hypocrisy..."(1Tim.4:1)\n\nBut there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who shall privately bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, bring swift destruction upon themselves". (2 Peter 2:1),
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Asalam Alaikum\nRemember the Bible has been changed and is not in it correct form as Allah has sent it down. That is why the Quran was sent and promised by Allah to be protected from deception. So even though some of the Bible may be true you can not take any of its text as true or not true. The Quran is the only book to find the truth in brother.
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Some have exploited these statements to argue their point that the Bible is unreliable or untruthful.\n\nBut, in a court judges WILL NOT BELIEVE statements by witnesses that are TOO PERFECT--without any minor inconcistencies. The judge's conclusion would always be that these statements--even under cross examination--were made up, or were too good to be true.\n\nIn reading contracts and law--w/c by the way the Bible is--we look for other provisions of these documents to really understand the whole thing.\n\nHere is a simplistic example:\n\nStatement (1): "Mike is fat".\nStatement (2): "Mike is thin".\nStatement (3): "When Mike was a kid he got sick with polio which severely affected his feet".\n\nIf you read only statements 1, and 2 you will conclude that these are really contradictory--or inconsistent--statements. But Statement (3) gives a clarification.\n\nSo, the correct conclusion considering Statement no. 3 is: "Mike is a fat man with thin legs". Agree, or disagree?\n\nNow let's go back to the 2 examples in question. Godshew(?) was correct. The case about God's warning to Adam, and his age could be reconciled. According to the apostle Peter's statement--a clarificatory one--1,000 years is just like 1 day to God. So, when Adam died at the age of 930, he died within one day in God's own time frame. \n\nAgain, Jesus did not contradict himself when he said that he and the father are one; and that the father is greater than he is. The apostle John was the one who wrote these statements and so he is the one in the better position to explain this (just like a witness in court). In John 17:20-22 he explains that the father, the son--including the disciples--are one in purpose, one in work, one in mind. \n\nFurther, if you will read John 10:25-33--and NOT just isolate John 10:30--then you will immediately notice that Jesus did not claim to be of equal power, or might, than his father. He and the Father are one in deeds (or works). Ps. read the account carefully.\n\nYou know what the problem is? some try to suit Biblical verses according to their beliefs--just like the ungodly trinity--and not suit their beliefs to what the Bible says.\n\nThis in turn is exploited by those eager to insist that the Bible is really unreliable.\n\nHope this helped a lot of people examine their Bibles closely.
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Dear fellow child of God,\n\nI'm sure there are plenty. If you read them they are mostly protests of practice not doctrine. Most of the bad practices have been cleaned up but with people involved there is always room for improvement. \n\nHowever I don't think Martin Luther was always right on, for example the first one, "When our Lord and Master, Jesus Christ, said "Repent", He called for the entire life of believers to be one of repentance," already sounds like trouble. \n\nCatholicism calls for repentance at certain times of your life but we are also called to live in happiness and joy.\n\nWith love in Christ.
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Romans 3:4: "God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar"\n\nIf it doesn't mesh with what's in the Bible, it's wrong. Period.
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As a point, it was so long ago that some of the reason may be lost, misinterpreted or otherwise, but apparently for the reason all the others have said.\n\n...Minus the actually being true, yadayada parts. People get too touchy when anything bad can be related to their religion.
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E X A C T L Y.\n\nbecause people do not want to hear the truth- they want to sugar coat it- add to it- or water it down so it pleases them....The bible even warns us of those people- in Proverbs it says "do not add to His words, lest he rebuke you and call you a liar"\n\nThey make up a god to suit themselves- they are not even speaking of the one TRUE God when they make stuff up- they are making a god to please them...
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I agree,.... no one should ever assume they have it all right. Every denomination or every religion is the product of someone interpretting something different than the guy before. Im a Christian and I see other Christians faithfully following doctrines that I have no idea how they can believe it in light of scripture. Im sure many would see some of my beliefs as false too. Fact being, we do not accept anything as truth that we do not understand so we change what we're told into something we can understand. However it doesnt change what IS Truth. I think our best bet is to realise we cant get it all right and just be open to learn.
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Well first you should be sure that it is a false doctrine.  Anybody can quote scripture to mean whatever they want it to mean.  This is the first tool of the devil, to quote scripture and appear as an angel of light.\n\nHere is how you check doctrine when people sling verses at each other:\n\n1.  Go to the Father's of the Christian Faith.  All the way back and preferably pre-300 being sure to check a Father that was taught by the Apostles or one in the 2nd generation.  Check to see if the Father's address this issue directly or a seed of this doctrine is present.  \n\n2.  Now check the Father's 300-800 AD and see how they developed the issue.\n\n3.  Now check the Fathers 800-1200 AD and see how they developed the issue.\n\n4.  Now check the Fathers and medieval scholastics 1200 AD -1500 AD and see how they develop the issue\n\n5.  STOP DO NOT CHECK POST 1500 YET!!!\n\n6.  Started back from the beginning check to see how Official Christian Teaching has dealt with the issue.  Check the councils that come out of the Churches of the East and West paying attention to the great councils.  Also be sure to check each Churches catechism, including the early Didache.\n\n7.  You now have a core understanding of how the Christian Faith has dealt with the doctrine throughout history.  Use this to determine where to look post 1500.  Ignore any Christian group that DIRECTLY contradicts this 1500 years of teaching and explanation of scripture.\n\n8.  Now check those group(s) that you have determined in step \n7 according to the writings of acclaimed Christians and official positions within that group in the following periods.  1500-1800AD, 1800-1945 AD, 1945-present AD. \n\n9.  You now have a complex and well developed understanding of what the TRUE Christian doctrine is.\n\n10.  Take this and discuss this with your friend.\n\n11.  Pray that the individual who is not in line with 2000 years of Christian Faith change their ways and accept the Faith.\n\nHope that helps.  If you need sources of where to look (great big book and net sites) message me.  Also include the specific doctrine and I will help you more.\n\nBlessing of Christ to you!
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As long as you know in your heart it isn't true then God knows it isn't true either. The Bible teaches us "Judge not lest you be judged", sorry I don't remember exactly where to find it. If they are lieing about you then it is them that are casting judgement. That is their problem, not yours. Anyone interested in the truth will ask you about it. It's harder to be an individual than to go with the flow. Lies die but the truth always stands tall. I personally would let them know you know they are the one's spreading the lies and and they can't hurt you with untruths. It's important to forgive them for their mis-speakings then leave the rest in God's hands. He'll take care of them and give them what they deserve in the end. He handles all.\n\nGod has blessed you enabling you to reach out for help. Hold on to that - God's Got It and His victory is so much more sweet!
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some religions may not accept such beliefs.
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Personally neither.\n\nOh, for the literal folks it is worth noting that the 1631 version of the English bible said "Though shalt commit adultry." \n\nSo mistakes are made..
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It is about false Teaching. They are using that to confuse and mislead people. The true Gospel is about Jesus christ.
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It has shown me that truths mixed with lies make up the most devious of untruths, more difficult to spot the actual inaccuracies. I grew up a Catholic but when I opened my eyes and began to actually study the word of God I ran like heck from that church, repented of my sins became baptized in the remission of sin and by the grace of god hope to continue in the faith until that glorious day that I meet my creator.