If there is no sin in heaven, how could lucifer covet God's power?
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He can't, not in Heaven.
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Lucifer was the Anointed Cherub. Anointed means to be set apart for Gods Divine purpose. It also means "bestowal of Gods divine favor", and "appointment to a special place or function."\n\nGod had given Satan a certain amount of power and authority. But he perverted that power. Lucifer wanted to exalt himself above God... rather than "just" being the Angel of God.
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What if it's not about bribery and punishment so much as it is about justice and mercy?\n\nNo one deserves heaven.  We all deserve hell, because that is the wage of sin.  \n\nIf there were no hell or no death, would we really get how serious sin is?\n\nIt's like asking if we would be better citizens if there were no police officers or jail.\n\nIf you read the book of Judges, there is a theme to the book that is repeated in a couple of passages.  "There was no king in Israel, and everyone did what was right in his own eyes."  You can see the sorts of trouble they got themselves into and the decline of the nation.\n\nWithout law and some means of making law meaningful (reward and punishment) anything goes.  That might work for people who feel doing good is important for its own sake, but some people really need boundaries.  Heaven and hell provide that.\n\nI think there is a part of every human heart that longs for perfection.  That is the part of us that longs for heaven.  I don't serve God just to get a reward or just to avoid punishment.  I love Him, so I serve Him.  But heaven makes trials easier.  And hell is certainly not where I want to be.
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Ezekiel 28 does not "suggest" lucifer had a kingdom,..but it does tell alot of him and the many roles he plays...and how he will be turned to ASHES.\nThere was NO lucifer kingdom,,,,at all.  During the time(1st AGE) before lucifer got the big head and tried to take Gods mercy seat, WE were ALL souls/stars/children with God.  lucifer took with him 1/3 of Gods stars in his rebellion.  In Gen 1:2, the word "was" translates BECAME....;the earth BECAME void.  God never creates anything void.  Before lucifers fall, I believe we were happy with God(the stars sang in the heavens) and the earth and the universe were ours to explore.  That's also the time when there were dinosaurs on the earth.  When lucifer took those 1/3, it angered God and He SHOOK this earth,...thus the end of the dinos.  IF God had wanted to He could have wiped everything out,..but He loves His children so much He made His plan to make man FLESH.(2nd AGE)  He made the earth habitable for us and made man and woman(Gen 1:27) This was the creation of mankind, the races.  Gen 2:7, this man Adam means ruddy complected, to see blush in the face.  For this particular man God made a woman from the rib,...meaning curve.  Today we call the helix's curve DNA.  Adam said the woman was bone of his bone , flesh of his flesh;..same DNA.....Anyway,..a little more than you ask...and the 3rd AGE is to come.....(ETERNITY)
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I'm not a religious person, but even I can figure this one out for you.\n\nSee, this is the way it works.  If there is a devil, and he rules in Hell, and if when you die you either go to Hell or you go to Heaven, and assuming that you have a soul and that you can barter for it, then...\n\n...offhand, I'd say that by worshipping the devil, he will have already gained your soul and you won't have anything to sell.  So, make the deal first, then worship.  \n\n\nIs that clear as mud?  \n\n\nYou're welcome.  \n\nHave a nice afterlife.  \n\nHe-he-he.
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Yes, it is. Lucifer is in an active state of hostilities against the entire world. I wouldn't call it a war, simply because God beat the snot out of him when Jesus died on the Cross. Lucifer can never win against God, because God knew before He created the universe that His creation would rebell against Him, so He decided to make Angels and Man much less powerful than He is. The only way Lucifer can win in your life is if you let him. But be wary of the consequences: an eternity in Hell, completely devoid of any and all hope and peace. The only things there are pain, suffering, regrets, and an extremely unquenchable thirst. Choose wisely, for you never know what tomorrow may bring.
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Assuming that we are talking about the same thing:\nLucifer was one of God's angels, but at one point it led a revolt against God because it wanted more power. It, along with the rest of the revolting angels were cast into Hell and Lucifer was given the power to reign there as Satan.\nI am not positive where exactly this is backed up in te Bible,  beleive the story has somewhat been peiced together. This is only my recollection of what I have heard, so take it with a grain of salt.
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God is all powerful. He (or She) could have done anything.\n\nHowever God in His unlimited love has given US the free will to choose. We choose to accept or reject God's constant offer of spending eternity with Him in heaven. God will respect the choice we make.
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God is omnipotent and He can do anything except sin. God spoke the world into existence.
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cause livin eternal life day by day all the same happy stuff would be boring. And Lucifer was jealous that god love peeps more but he was wrong if he would love us then we wouldn't have that mess what we have now\n\nOh and God need some bad *ss dude who would tempt us to do bad thing cuase it has to be balanced. Cause if there wouldn't be devil and hell then peeps would stop believ in god and stop worshipin him. No pray for help no worship means god would disapear so well they had nice chat and Lycifer agreed to be the oposite and help god to make peeps for their game
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God created all things, yes including Satan. He made everything perfect and beautiful. Because He wanted to love and be loved He gave all His creation free will. A beautiful angel Lucifer began to feel pride. He thought that he should be equal to God. Because of this sin that had entered him he was ejected from God's presence and cast onto the earth, he became Satan. Jim
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Nobody gets a free ticket to heaven. Its only by God's mercy that anybody can enter heaven whoever it might be. Ofcourse God does have some stipulations for people before He will let them in. they have to believe He is the only God. plus u have to believe in all his messengers and do good work. He forgives whom He wills and punishes whom He wills. He is the ultimate soveriegnty.
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By God's own account of it all Lucifer was guilty of was looking for a little democracy. Then God unleashed is "Shock and Awe" all over Lucifer's *ss and found out that the D man had no weapons of mass destruction at all.\n\nOff to Guantanamo with no trial and a sentence of all eternity for Lucifer.\n\nSeems a little harsh for the God that loves everything doesn't it?
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Yes.  Heavenly Father, God, is the Father of all of our Spirits.  Christ is our Eldest Brother in that regard.  Lucifer was also one of God's early spirits, that is why he is called the Son of the Morning.  When God presented His plan for His children, to send us to earth to gain mortal bodies and to learn by our experience to choose the good from the evil, He asked for someone to be the designated Savior in His Plan of Salvation.  Jesus responded that He would go and do as the Father had planned.  Lucifer said that he would go and be sure that all of God's children returned, that not one of us would be lost.  This would remove our agency from the equation and Lucifer was rejected.  He being a proud spirit, did not accept God's rejection and rebelled against God, taking 1/3 of God's children with him.  They became Satan and his evil spirits to provide the opposition here on earth that we are learning to choose against. \nSo the short answer is yes, Satan, Lucifer, is not only Christ's brother, but he is our brother as well, as is Christ.
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I'm not sure how I'm gonna answer this, but here goes.\nLet's see: God created Lucifer (now known as Satan) as His second in command. Lucifer then saw how much better than all the other angels he was and thought to himself, "If I'm so much better than them, why can't I be better than God himself?" No one knows where this thought came from, seeing how God only makes perfect creations. The only logical place that it could have came from is freedom of choice that God gave them when He created the Angels. This freedom also explains why 1/3 of the Angels chose to follow Lucifer in his rebellion against God. After Lucifer and his demons (fallen angels) were cast out of Heaven, God seperated His angels so far away from Lucifer's that the demons know that they can never get back. Lucifer is free to come and go as he pleases in God's throneroom (as evidenced in the first chapter of Job), but he can never return to what he once was. This fact has angered him so much over the millenia that he's esentially declared war on humanity, God's most prized creation. The first battle in this war was waged on the day of Adam and Eve's temptation and fall away from God when Satan successfully decieved them to eat of the tree that God explicitly said not to eat from. The victory was prophesied not even a day later when the Spirit of the Lord walked through the Garden looking for Adam and Eve to felowship with them as He normally did, only to find them hiding from them, dressed in fig leaves. God asked them why they were ashamed of themselves, and then they went through the whole "it's his/her fault" routine, blaming each other for what one did. When the truth finally did come out (not like God didn't already know), God pronounced consequences on humanity (a series of hardships which can be read in Genesis 3), and cursed the serpent (as this was the creature Satan used to decieve Adam and Eve). The curse on the serpent also held hope for the redemption of Mankind, as it fortold of the defeat of Satan through the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ. The war was over before it begun! \n\nSo, to answer your question: Yes, Satan invented the concept of sin. He then successfully marketed this concept to himself, his demons, and ultimately to humanity. He even tried to get Jesus to sin, but since Jesus is God in the flesh (and God is perfect), he couldn't do it. Jesus was the only man who ever lived here on earth that lead a perfect life, one completely without sinning.
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God only put us here to be toys of amusement for him. He enjoys watching people suffer. Just think about it for a minute...supposedly he is all-powerful, all-knowing, all-...whatever. Yet he allows this world to be infested with disease, famine, war, death, and horrors beyond imagination. Now, how can you call a god who does all these things loving and expect him to do anything for you. People who always turn to god to help them in their struggles are just trying to find someone else to fix their mistakes. They can't handle the fact that their god probably doesn't like them. God allows all these atrocities on earth to occur and doesn't lift a finger. The question you should really be asking is "Why do I worship a god that does not care?" God did not give us free will. And as far as free will in the respect to god goes, if it had not been for Satan, we would all be wandering around in complete servitude without even realizing we were slaves. By tempting Eve to eat that apple, if you believe the story, he gave us the ability to realize our slavery. Furthermore, anyone who says that we have free will given by god should examine their religion further. How can it be free will when he says that to disobey him will result in a tormenting eternity of fire and brimstone? Are these really choices...slavery or fire? I will thank God for nothing. My thanks go to the god of the underworld for giving me the knowledge to know these lies as they are.
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Satan is doesn't have any power his powers were striped off him when Jesus died and rose again. being god no its people that makes him their god. I serve a true and powerful GOD who will judge the earth one day