How can Jehovah's Witnesses (est: 1869AD) discredit all other Christian faiths (est: 32AD)?
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We Jehovah's Witnesses do not discredit all Christian Faiths, they discredit themselves. \n\nIf you compare their teachings and their behavior and practices against the light of the Bible you will see the CLEAR DIFFERENCE between a real christian and a false one.\n\nTrue Christians Then and Now\n\nChristians of the first century at times had different opinions about things. For example, speaking of those in Corinth, the apostle Paul said: "Disclosure was made to me about you, my brothers, by those of the house of Chloe, that dissensions exist among you. What I mean is this, that each one of you says: 'I belong to Paul,' 'But I to Apollos,' 'But I to Cephas,' 'But I to Christ.'"—1 Corinthians 1:11, 12.\n\nDid Paul view these differences as of little significance? Was each individual simply following his own path to salvation? Far from it! Paul admonished: "I exhort you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that you should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among you, but that you may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought."—1 Corinthians 1:10.\n\nOf course, unity of belief cannot be achieved by coercion. It is achieved only when individuals carefully investigate matters and arrive at and accept the same conclusions. Thus, a personal study of God's Word and an honest desire to apply what is learned are essential steps to enjoy the kind of unity that Paul spoke of. Can such unity be found? As we have seen, God has long dealt with his people as a group. Is it possible to identify that group today?\n\nIf you want to know more view the article below.\n\nIF you want answers you have to seek them with an open mind and heart, and not for argument sake.
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:}\nBecause that isn't true\nthere is only one G-d and only one faith\nall  other religions are an attempt by Lucifer to miss guide gullible humans
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It's all a load of nonsense. The whole 666 thing came from the Bible, which was put together by a bunch of Romans who wanted to control people. Why is it people still believe in the Bible despite the fact it is just a selective history? They take it as gospel, at face value. There were hundreds of books but only a few were chosen to go in the Bible, the ones that reflected the view of the Romans and gave across the views that they wanted to give across. Know a story when you read one!
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I'm not one, but I have throughly studied the history of your movement.  Ask your elders about 1975, and how they reconcile it with what Deuteronomy 18 says about how if a prophet ever makes a false prediction, they are never to be listened to again. Don't let them tell you they did not predict Armmagedon back then, because I was a freshman in high school at the time, and I remember many JW kids telling me that it was going to happen before the year was over.   \n\nThe New World Translation's rendering of John 1:1 is not only biased, but it does not flow with the structure of the Greek.  If you also read Colossians 1 in your translation, you see that the word "other" has been added when it talks about Christ being the creator of all things (they even go as far as to bracket the word, to as much as admit that it was not in the original manuscripts.)  \n\nHave you ever wondered why your former president, Fanz's nephew left the organization?  He was a member of your allegedly infallible governing body, but was disgusted with the fact that they were more interested in keeping the decpetion of Armmagedon about to arrive more then they were in Biblical truth.  \n\nI know they tell you people like me are of the swine class, and we are not to be listened to, because we are of the devil.  Ever wonder why they really tell you that?  If a lawyer goes into court knowning he has an open and shut case, he does not fear the other side's argument.  It is when the other side has evidence that is incriminating that he does what he can from getting it heard.  When the Bereans searched the scriptures to see if what Paul told them was true, he did not chastise them for questioning him (Acts 17:11).  \n\nJesus was not the reincarnation of the archangel Michael.  He was the very incarnation of Yaweh God in Human form. (Hebrews 1:1-3).  Salvation is a free gift, not one you have to work for to be found worthy of "paradise on earth".  I have documented evidence that the Watchtower has lied to both you and many of its other followers time and time again, and would be willing to send you my studies.  I know they would tell you not to do so, because I am of the swine class.  But, please think for a minute, why would they tell you that if they didn't have something to hide?\n\nIn response to the gentleman after me, here is a detailed article about not only the history of the NWT, but also the qualifications of its translators, as well as how accurate it is to the original Hebrew and Greek.  Well respected Biblical Scholars, who are considered experts in both languages, are quoted.  \n\nThe New World Translation EXPOSED!\n\nThe Watchtower Society's Corrupt Bible\n\n \n\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nBy Ben Rast | Contender Ministries | Posted May 15, 2005 \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n \n\nDr. Walter Martin once said that the average Jehovah’s Witness can make a “doctrinal pretzel” out of the average Christian in about 30 seconds.  This does not mean Jehovah’s Witnesses are doctrinally correct.  There are a couple of reasons this is so.  First, the average JW gets exponentially more training in their doctrine than the average Christian gets in orthodox biblical doctrine.  This disparity must be corrected by pastors, teachers, and even the individual parishioners, who must take responsibility to educate themselves on sound, biblical doctrine (as well as attacks on that doctrine).  One other smaller (but still vitally important) reason is the reliance of Jehovah’s Witnesses on a biased and erroneous translation of the Bible – the New World Translation.  If you allow a JW to recite from the NWT without checking the verse in a more accurate translation – such as the NIV, NASB, or KJV – you may be relying on an erroneous translation of a verse.  While there are scores of examples of error
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Notice what verse 9 says"...who is misleading the entire inhabited earth..." and the second half of verse 12 says"....because the Devil has come down to you,having great anger,knowing he has a short period of time..."\nSatan knows his time is running out.\nAs one of Jehovah's Witnesses we firmly believe that Satan and his demons were cast out of heven in 1914.\nThat year marked the first World War and the World wide situation has progressively grown worse since.1Peter5:8 \nwarns-"Keep your senses,be watchful.Your adversary,the Devil,walks around like a roaring lion,seeking to devour someone".\nBut we can have confidence in God's Word,the Bible that soon Satan and his demons will be done away with and obedient mankind will be able to enjoy peaceful paradise conditions on the earth once again.
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Yes you are correct.\nThe Bible account tells us it was 33CE and a new covenant was to replace the ancient jewish law covernant.\nIn Jesus'day printing and broadcasting did not exist,and written records were not common among the ordinary people.\nWorshipers of Jehovah had come to the Festival of Pentecost in Jerusalem from over a dozen lands in Africa,Asia and Europe and they spoke several different languages.About 120 of Jesus' disciples also assembled in Jerusalem.Empowered with God's holy spirit,the disciples started to speak with differenct tongues.What a banquet of good news was served to a multitude of worshipers!These were able to "hear them speaking in their own tongues about the magnificent things of God"-Acts2:5-11\nToday many feel that they are assisted by God's holy spirit to speak in tongues.How can we reconcile this with Scriptural evidence that the gift of tongues has passed away?\nSpeaking in tongues usually amounts to highly emotional outbursts of sound that no one understands.So it cannot be from God.Jesus said that religious hypocrites would try to attach his name to such "powerful works"but he rejected these "workers of lawlessness"(Mat.7:21-23).And Paul prophetically warned of a future time when there would be fraudulent miracles or "lying signs and portents".Thus "every unrighteous deception"is a speciality of the archdeceiver,Satan the Devil-2Thess.2:8-10.
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JW's are not Christian.  That is clear proof alone. They are decieved by the leadership of that cult. They are forbidden to study outside the cult aproved dogma.  \n\nThose of The Christian Faith have the certain knowledge that they indeed have eternal life.( John 3:16-17) And we have free will to study as we wish. But knowing what we do as believers we of course believe our source. God Himself. We do not follow the words of any mortal man. But we  read and know of religions of man we just do not accept them.\n\nIf you wish to know more than is offered in this forum concerning Christian Faith you may email me. All Honest seekers welcome
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There are over 10,000 unique Christian cults in the US alone. You can study the bible for the next 500 years and you still won't be in agreement with millions of other people who have chosen a different interpretation.\n\nI was a practicing Christian for over thirty years, studied the bible and religion and I assure you the bible is a book of mythology and supernatural entities ("Gods") do not exist in fact.\n\nThose who claim they "know" what the bible "really means" are either ignorant, dishonest or delusional. No one knows what the bible really means as evidenced by the millions of different interpretation (one you just offered), most of which do not agree with each other.\n\nThere is only one principle shared by the majority of Christians and that principle is:\n\n"We are better than everyone else and we can sin all we want with no eternal penalty."\n\nThat is not a valid doctrine, it is childish nonsense.\n\nBut, to each his own.
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that would be false religion, And it is still going on today! But soon God will put an end to it! http://watchtower.org
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I agree with your statements. \n\nMost people like to believe everything others accept as truths - it is so much easier that way. Not everyone has the intellect or time or truth seeking characteristic in them to make them want to find out the absolute truth (if it exists!). \n\nHere are some other things I question:\n\n1) the book of Mark was the first recorded version of the synoptic gospels (the other books follow mark) - however, early versions (about 50 AD) ended at mark 16:8 and did not include anything about the resurrection.\n\n2) I suppose you are discussing the literary christians - have people really looked at the teachings of the gnostics? Their interpretation makes a lot more sense to me. Perhaps jesus was married to Mary Magdalene....and Saul/Paul was a woman hater....\n\n3) isn't it strange that Paul ursurped the new testament (his teachings take over from those of the apostles after the gospels)? Does this make sense to anyone else - if paul was the right person to expand the religion, why did Jesuah ben joseph (Jesus to most) not accept him as an apostle? Oversight?\n\n4) Popes through the ages have committed incesteous acts, organised murders, led crusades against Christian parties (Saracens were Christians), meddled in politics, made huge errors in scientific terms (earth is flat and all that)...and people still believe that they would not edit the bible to suit their own needs?\n\n5) Most of what Christians believe today were decided at the Council of Nicea (Apostle's creed, Holy Trinity etc etc) - does this make sense? A group of old men telling future generations what to believe rather than letting them make up their own minds?\n\n6) Everything is based on faith. If you wanted to buy a stereo but you could not try it (you have to pay upfront of course), would you do so? You have to rely on faith that it is good and it works....Does this make sense? Can faith be described as ignorance and acceptance of what people tell you without being able to find out the truth? if Thomas can ask questions, are we not allowed to do so as well or is he just an exception?\n\nWhat irks me most are the bible loving people who have not read and have not bothered to do more research on the basis of their beliefs and yet come around and preach to others. isn't it a case of "blind leading the blind", and perpetuating the infallibility of the bible?\n\nI remember a Jehovah Witness telling me that he believes the bible to be true so I should as well. I asked him if a madman genuinely believed he was Napolean Bonaparte, does it make him Napolean? Of course not, this is a subjective belief. Perhaps this is it: we will never find objective evidence to prove religion either way and can only decide subjectively if we want to believe. \n\nBTW, for every example of a scholar who converted to Christianity after doing research, there are also the opposite cases, where scholars have given up their beliefs due to their findings. To quote one or the other as irrefutable evidence of the truth/untruth is probably naive.\n\nHowever, in my search for the truth, I have not come across the indication that the First Holy Roman Emperor removed all references to reincarnation. I question this quote from you.... \n\nUltimately, I ask if the teachings have harmed humanity and I think that my answer is no. The teachings of the bible are in essence good but only intellectual flyweights would believe it wholeheartedly and as literal truth.
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(1) Bible: Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the entire Bible is the inspired Word of God, and instead of adhering to a creed based on human tradition, they hold to the Bible as the standard for all their beliefs.\n(2) God: They worship Jehovah as the only true God and freely speak to others about him and his loving purposes toward mankind. Anyone who publicly witnesses about Jehovah is usually identified as belonging to the one group—“Jehovah’s Witnesses.”\n(3) Jesus Christ: They believe, not that Jesus Christ is part of a Trinity, but that, as the Bible says, he is the Son of God, the first of God’s creations; that he had a prehuman existence and that his life was transferred from heaven to the womb of a virgin, Mary; that his perfect human life laid down in sacrifice makes possible salvation to eternal life for those who exercise faith; that Christ is actively ruling as King, with God-given authority over all the earth since 1914.\n(4) God’s Kingdom: They believe that God’s Kingdom is the only hope for mankind; that it is a real government; that it will soon destroy the present wicked system of things, including all human governments, and that it will produce a new system in which righteousness will prevail.\n(5) Heavenly life: They believe that 144,000 spirit-anointed Christians will share with Christ in his heavenly Kingdom, ruling as kings with him. They do not believe that heaven is the reward for everyone who is “good.”\n(6) The earth: They believe that God’s original purpose for the earth will be fulfilled; that the earth will be completely populated by worshipers of Jehovah and that these will be able to enjoy eternal life in human perfection; that even the dead will be raised to an opportunity to share in these blessings.\n(7) Death: They believe that the dead are conscious of absolutely nothing; that they are experiencing neither pain nor pleasure in some spirit realm; that they do not exist except in God’s memory, so hope for their future life lies in a resurrection from the dead.\n(8) Last days: They believe that we are living now, since 1914, in the last days of this wicked system of things; that some who saw the events of 1914 will also see the complete destruction of the present wicked world; that lovers of righteousness will survive into a cleansed earth.\n(9) Separate from the world: They earnestly endeavor to be no part of the world, as Jesus said would be true of his followers. They show genuine Christian love for their neighbors, but they do not share in the politics or the wars of any nation. They provide for the material needs of their families but shun the world’s avid pursuit of material things and personal fame and its excessive indulgence in pleasure.\n(10) Apply Bible counsel: They believe that it is important to apply the counsel of God’s Word in everyday life now—at home, in school, in business, in their congregation. Regardless of a person’s past way of life, he may become one of Jehovah’s Witnesses if he abandons practices condemned by God’s Word and applies its godly counsel. But if anyone thereafter makes a practice of adultery, fornication, homosexuality, drug abuse, drunkenness, lying, or stealing, he will be disfellowshipped from the organization.
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Thanks for debunking that baby smashing issue.\n\nIt strikes me as odd that the God-haters can find none of this negative text to rant about  in the new testament.\nWonder why that is?\n\nYou suppose its because the ancient world was filled with horrible evil people and God had to be harsh with them because they were downright wicked?   Huge  armies roamed about, plundering and pillaging everything they found. Maybe God knew things were going to become more civilized (at least for a little while) after Jesus came with the new message. \n\nGee, Jesus taught turn the other cheek, pray for your enemies. That doesn't sound like a hateful God to me.\n\nToo bad atheists can't come forward to the 21st century. \nThey accuse Christians of being stuck in the year 1000BC and yet the only part of the bible they care to quote comes from the BC era.  \n\nWonder why that is??\nBile spewing, hatefilled God haters. Sad, so sad.
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Notice that the only thing Christians can point to in order to defend the Bible is....the Bible! \nIt is even more ridiculous to claim it is the word of God when it was manipulated by men in order to create a unifying religion - it was created as a politcal mechanism. (The Canonized Bible).
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Many Christians will say that the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses teaches things contrary to the Bible, thus falling into the category of a "cult." On the other hand, Jehovah's Witnesses call themselves Christians and claim that theirs is the only true Christian religion — meaning Baptists, Catholics, Lutherans, Evangelicals, etc. are all false. So who's telling the truth?\n\nIn the past few months I've done quite a bit of research on Jehovah's Witnesses. I've met with several of their members, read many of their magazines and books, and attended one of their Sunday meetings. Below I'll outline a few of the important things I've learned:\n\n1) Jehovah's Witnesses are governed by a religious organization called the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (WBTS), which has its headquarters in Brooklyn, New York. The WBTS was founded in the late 1800's by a man named Charles Taze Russell. \n\n2) The WBTS today claims it is a "prophet" of God, and that it is the only organization on earth today by which God works. Additionally, they claim that only through the publications (books and magazines) of the WBTS can a person understand the Bible. They teach that without the organization's help, truth about God, Jesus, and salvation cannot be known (in other words, reading the Bible alone will not lead you to the truth).\n\n3) Important teachings of the WBTS have changed over the years. For example: They once taught that Jesus was crucified on a cross, but today say it was a "torture stake." They once taught that Jesus was NOT an angel, but today say he is Michael the Archangel. \n\n4) Significant events were falsely predicted by Charles Taze Russell. Russell wrote two books that predicted the battle of Armageddon would take place in 1914, that 1914 would mark the end of Christendom, that 1914 would see the end of "earth's present rulership," and that 1914 was the year the body of Christ was to be completely selected and finished. None of it happened.\n\n5) The second president of the WBTS, J.F.Rutherford, wrote a book in 1920 called "Millions Now Living Will Never Die." In it he falsely predicted that Jehovah's Witnesses could "confidently expect" that Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, as well as the prophets mentioned in Hebrews Chapter 11, would "visibly" return to earth in 1925. He even built a 10-room house for them in San Diego. No one showed up, and eventually the house was sold.\n\n6) The WBTS publishes it's own version of the Bible, called the New World Translation, which they claim is the most accurate translation ever made. You must understand that the organization will not tell you who were responsible for this translation. In it you will find words added and changed from the original Greek in order to support their doctrines of who God and Jesus are. For example, the NWT translates John 1:1 as saying Jesus was "a god." The word "a" is not in the Greek. In Colossians 1:15-17, the word "other" is inserted four times. Instead of saying "Jesus created all things" as it does in the Greek, the NWT says "Jesus created all OTHER things." They do this to support their teaching that Jesus is not divine, but rather a created being. Greek scholars worldwide say the NWT breaks all the rules.\n\nLike many people, I want to know the truth about who Jesus Christ is. I believe with all my heart that although Jehovah's Witnesses are sincere, and although they appear to have Biblical reasons for what they are being taught by the WBTS, upon closer examination you will find that the organization is in fact a false religion. \n\nI invite you to review some of the links below. Listen to the stories of men and women who once were leaders in the WBTS, but now have left the organization to find Jesus Christ. \n\nMay God bless you as you seek the truth.
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Fools of faith.  I always enjoy asking devout Christians if they believe in dinosaurs.  When they say yes I ask them how long ago they lived.  When they say millions of years ago I ask them how that could be when the Bible says the Earth is only 6000 years old!  It's funny watching them try to squirm their way outta that one.
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Wow...like some prozac?  Calm down, son.\n\nI'm a Christian.  Were I an atheist, my argument would be that nobody debunked Christ in 33 AD because there was nothing to debunk...as he did not exist.  I would argue that in the 50's there were just letters written from one person to another or to a group, and that it was a cult doing it.  Why bother debunking it?  By 100 AD, you have so many groups persecuting these Christians that you don't have to bother debunking...the Romans and Hebrews will kill them anyway.\n\nAgain, I'm a Christian...but the arguments are easy.
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Yeah you're right. The answers are pathetic. They pretend to know the things that they do not have any idea about. at least they should be polite and tolerant, sometimes they remind of the "christian" persecuters of the pioneers. haha :-) it's just funny why persecute us for our belief that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God and Savior of the world? Why persecute Joseph Smith for him telling that He spoke to God and the Son? Does not God answer prayers? or call his prophets anymore? Have miracles ceased? Have revelations and visions ceased? not with our church!!! Faithful and charitable and tolerant some of today's so called Christians are :-) We believe in Christ. full stop!!!