What's the big deal about illegles?  Ain't cheap, hard working folk is GOOD for Amerrca?
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In the Robber Baron worldview of modern Republicanism, what's good for the rich is good for America, and everything else is immoral or will destroy the economy.  Cheap labor is good for the rich, especially if it's not protected by labor laws.  Bush wanted to institutionalize this arrangement with a "guest worker" program, which is a very rational approach for the Robber Baron class.
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The good thing about illegal imagrants in america is that they are not here to take anything away from americans. Bush has made it so hard for anyone to get citizenship that there are plenty of good people in america that simply are married to an american but can't get the right paper work due to the ignorance of a country that refuses to even provide information. You are given one number then another and another to call for information on how to become legal or you pay lawyers money to hear them tell you that the imagration process in america can take up to 10 years or more to go through and you have to wait it out. No one gives illegal immigrants a simple way to go about doing this the way they should be done. America is a selfish country that thinks that they are beyond others and everyone is out to get them. They are unhospitalable to others from another country because they are scared that there jobs might be taken away. Most of the illegal immagrants are simply a victom of circumstance because of ignorance, they want nothing more then to work hard and provide for thier families or are here because they fell in love with someone here. What is so wrong with that? If americans worked a little harder and were a little moe hospitable then they wouldn't have to worry. they worry only because they know that they are not doing good enough and that someone else might  simply because they believe in working hard for what they have and don't expect it to be given to them. They work mainly crap jobs that americans feel they are too good to work, they pay taxes when they buy things, they donate to charities, they care that is the good thing about them.
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LOL!!  That's a great point, I hadn't read those statistics.  I guess it's 'cause the Lib's have made a smoke and mirror's campaign suggesting that they fight for the "working man", and since the vast majority of the population makes less then 70K per year, that's who the Dem's try to appeal to.  It makes them look good I suppose to bash people like me, who put themselves through school, worked hard, and now has a job well above the national average.  It's a snow job.  I've always thought that the major distinction between Dem's and Repubs is that Repubs believe it's the governments job to create and sustain a country where you can achieve happiness, while the Dem's of today believe its the governments job to try and provide it.  If you work towards achieving your own happiness, I think you often fall into a higher tax bracket because of your ambition and work ethic.  Good question, thanks!
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there are jobs that dont make it worthwhile for some americans to take.  People on welfare make more in welfare than they would it they work, the system here needs to be changed.  Unions make it hard to hire employees who might do these jobs; prisoners, kids, etc.  companies that have to pay health care, insurance, etc for legal workers.  I think what bush means is that its bad for the companies profits not to be able to hire illegals, pay them low wages, give them no benefits, and tell them to get lost when the work is done.
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Illegals draw welfare by stealing people's social security numbers and identities. That means there are a lot of people being directly hurt by these people as well. Innocent people are having their credit ratings ruined, having IRS problems, and social security problems. If someone who has had their social security number stolen gets married, if either spouse dies or become disabled then they can be denied their benefits. \n\nMy family moved to the US before WWII. Those of my family that didn't make it over got killed by the death camps. Our family assimilated to the American culture. We didn't expect the Americans to change to suit us. The illegal immigrants from Mexico are not civilized like that.\n\nThey not only changed the National Anthem to Spanish, they changed the words. They already burn our flag and hang our flag upside down. They waved the Mexican flag during a lot of their protests. Some schools have stopped hanging the American flag and forbidden students from wearing clothes with any part of the American flag on their clothing all to keep from offending the Mexicans. It's nothing short of an attack of our country, not only by the illegal aliens, but those who seek to appease them. \n\nI am tired of the stereotype that Americans wouldn't do the work that illegals do. Illegals do all kinds of jobs for less than minimum wage which drives the wages down for U.S. citizens. Construction jobs are an example. There are lots of illegals doing construction jobs that Americans used to do because the companies can keep more of the profits if they pay less for the workers. All that does is make companies wealthier and Americans poorer. Illegals are stealing jobs that Americans have done for years. \n\nIf you go to a country and refuse to assimilate, continuing to speak your own language then you are really not an immigrant -- you're a colonist ... and that's what the Mexicans are doing, they're colonizing the American Southwest as part of their "reconquista" Read about mecha in the link I provided and you'll see what the Mexicans real agenda is.\n\nhttp://www.americanpatrol.com/MECHA/MEChAindex.html
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I am a human being.\n\nI am Mexican, the same as many of the illegal workers in the USA.\n\nI would like that the work i want and i have, could be closer to my family.\n\nI am underpayed (i couldn't resist, and copied from catnip, sorry, you express exactly how i feel!!): "I am not paid enough to make a decent living, even though I have plenty of skills that employers seem to want."
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I don't know if I do or not. I'm not against immigrants, I'm just against the ones that insist on being here illegally. As far as I'm concerned, they can stay here if they want, just go through the process to be here legally. Most of us here are here because of immigrants, so we can't really complain about that part of it. Yes, it would provide more jobs for those of us who are citizens but let's be honest here... there aren't a whole lot of citizens who would be willing to do the work that the illegals do. Have you ever tried to help someone who victimizes our welfare system find a job? I have, a few people,and all I got was, 'can't do that, won't do that, ewww, that's not enough money for THAT kind of work.' The people who are on welfare that are honest workers that wouldn't be an issue, but unfortunately I think those people are a minority. Good question!
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I think you hit the nail on the head. Some contribute to the economy; some don't. You can say the same for legal immigrants. Ditto for American citizens. More often than not, illegals contribute in some ways (by doing hard work cheaply and paying sales taxes on goods purchsed in the U.S.) and are a drain on the economy in other ways (given that their children sometimes require additional assistance in school if they're not fully bilingual). Most of them work harder than the average American does and do NOT expect or request welfare. (They are afraid of leaving a "paper trail" and hence many do not want to apply for such benefits.) But whatever the case, we should remember that our forefathers were all immigrants, legal or illegal, at one point in time.\n\nWe definitely need immigration reform, and I don't think anyone who has entered the country illegally should get automatic amnesty. On the other hand, labeling those who entered the country illegally but who have become a vital part of our society as "criminals" is pointless. We could label anyone who's ever gone over the speed limit as a "criminal", too, but that doesn't help you get a grip on excess speeding. All the jerks that run around acting superior and accusing law-abiding hard-working people who entered the country illegal of being criminals are simply ignorant, selfish, xenophobic bigots.
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Didn't your ancestor's get a chance at a better life by coming to America?  Why can't other humans, yes humans get the same chance?  \n\nI do believe there needs to be a wall or strictor laws for companies who hire illigal immigrants.  \n\nHow about offering a work program where all companies who need low paying labor help, could register in a program at the borders. These companies who profit from the illigal immigrants labor, could shoulder the cost of transportation and fines for permission to work in the United States. Don't you think that the contractors who hire all these illigal immigrants, are making great profits from hiring workers for 2 to 4 dollars an hour and they are actually getting paid by their clients (some of them by our government) more like 10 or more dollars an hour for that same labor. Get upset with these companies who are making a huge profit off the shoulders of these people.  And if some companies say we couldnt afford to pay these people more than pass the cost on to the public.  Then maybe we can actually see the cost of treating hard laborers as humans.\n\n\nWhy are people mad at the illigal immigrants? I would love to see any amount of American's who want to do the hard labor that the illigal labor force is performing at the price that they are being paid. How many Americans would work out in Houston's heat. How many American's would do the pain-staking labor of harvesting our farms? I would love to see all those retarded Americans who say that the illigal immigrants are taking your jobs, to go out to do the harvesting in the fields for one day and then receive the salary that they recieive. How long do you really have to stay in your ignorance. Wake up and smell the coffee!
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people like me can't get it. 3 kids and a husband that is disabled. i work my butt off for minimum wage. a job they say Americans wont do. but its all good. i survived this long. the govt don't seem to care about their own citizens in any country.
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What exactly are you converting from, again?  \n\nI'm afraid that welfare is only for people who won't work, not people who have.\n\nEDIT:  LOL!!  Split ends = racist!  Weird.
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they probly werent raised a hard worker. besides, with it being so easy to get the government to give them all this stuff, theres no reason for them to find a job. i say well-fare needs a strict reformation. disabled people need the help, but someone that cant find a job? why should my parents have to pay them because they're to lazy to get a job? its all politics. the politician that helps bring more equality to the nation(hmm, that sounds alot lke communism) usually gets elected.
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Well first I want to say this is because of ill-informed white liberals and unsophisticated Democrats as to why we have this proble in America...\nI'll proceed...\nLet me put it to you like this: there are lazy black people and there are hard working black people. The only problem is, there is a good majority of them that are lazy. This is unfortunate because like with anything, the ones that are lazy give the ones who are hard working a bad name. Now, I'm not a conservative but I'm not a liberal. I'm not a racist but I definately know what you're talking about. As a matter of fact I'm not even white, but that doesn't matter. Anyways, the problem isn't so much that they're lazy as it is the problem that lies behind the fact that the majority of them who are lazy don't want to take on the responsibilities of bettering themselves and their community and accepting their faults as to why they are poor, why they don't have black-owned businesses even in the cities that they live in, why so many of them are incarcerated, why they can't stop depending on the government to give them handouts. I could go on and on. The truth of the matter is (and this is not just coming from me but other African-Americans as well), the majority of black folk in America don't want to take on responsibility to make change. They'd rather complain and blame everything on the white man and everyone else who isn't black. I mean, when Martin Luther King rallied a Civil Rights movement, he intended that to better the lives of black folk and give way to equal opportunities for them. As a matter of fact, the very people who fought for those civil rights back in the sixties sacrificed their lives just so black folk could prosper in America. But its a shame to see a good number of black folk disgrace that legacy by allowing drugs, crime and a lack of work ethics to tarnish it. I always hear this left-wing rehtoric that blacks have it hard in this country because they're black. It's not because they're black, it's because they don't want succeed the right way. I'm sure a number of you want to call me a racist, a this or that. You know what, it doesn't really matter because I know for a fact that when the Chinese, Vietnamese, East Indian (who some that are darker than some of the black folk here), and other ethnic groups who immigrated here, worked their asses off and did what they had to do with the very little rights they had and actaully pulled through and ended up owning businesses, having the highest level of education and made names for themselves. Now why can't black people here do the same? Well, here are number of reasons why:\n\nFor one, they highly depend on the Liberals and Democrats to give them this warm feeling that everything is in good hands as long as it is trusted in the hands of Liberals and Democrats, when the truth of the matter lies behind the fact that Democrats don't encourage them to pull their weight, stop using race as an excuse for success, leave family guidance and morale to the side (after all, Bill Clinton was po' black folk's daddy), and brainwash them into thinking that communism is going to solve all the problems when in fact it'll only make things worse for blacks (after all, with communism, who needs to work hard?).\nThe second and foremost reason is because white liberals use their aethist, communist, anything goes, anarchist delusional theory driven ideas to confuse African Americans to believing that as long as they're poor and black, they can be used as puppets for deranged liberal marketing.\n\nSo, if African Americans actually think that the Democrats or the radical liberals are going to make things better for them, then they better start rethinking why they go to church, why they're in America and not in Africa and why they don't need schools at all. Because as far as I'm concerned, it's not the A
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My parents were not legal Immigrants, but I am. For myself it wasn't that difficult, to get here from Scotland. It took effort and a lot of paper work, and a sponser, to guarantee, my welfare, for the first six months.\n I got a job early, and put no burden on my sponser. But I was covered by his generosity.\nOther legal immigrants from other nations, had the same problems as I did, some worse, due to the old quota systems. But they too all waited in lines, saw Doctors, got X-rays, filled reams of paper work, and did the right thing.\nIt angers me to see those illegals, sneak, or really, openly cross our borders.  They seem to think they are entitiled to do so. They see no crime being committed, and other latinos who were born here, or whos parents, got here, illegally or legally, try to help them out, and can't see what they are doing to our health system and schools.\nI think the politicians are working hand in glove with businesses, to supply this latest form of cheap labor.It lowers all our standard of living. See how expensive health care is now, if it's even available, and out pension plans, going down the tube. All of this isn't all due to illegal immigration, but it certainly isn't helped by it.\nWe need to control our borders and immigration. What other country would allow over twelve million illegals amongst them. \nI have no bias, against those people who are just trying to better their lives, for them and their families. But how much better would it be, if they did that in there own Country.\nMexico, could easily be a first world country, given its natural resources, and the skill and hard work of their natives. But their Government is too corrupt, and so few own the majority of the wealth of their nation, and aren't willing to share, it with the less fortunate amongst their people.
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ilegal imigrants PAY 99 % OF EVERY TAX THERE IS and get nothing back come tax time, all that money from every single check they took from them.. GONE. \nall they get back is a bunch of racist people calling them names, because they work their asses off to feed their families, and risk alot in doing so, including being killed by armed civillians,militia style.\nso much for the land of the free.\nimmigrants do hundreds of jobs that the average american take for granted, if they didnt, your life as it is would change drastically.
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Si, mi amigo, yo consento con usted. But at the same time the people that hire the illegals are sonegating taxes and taking the opportunities of those there are legal, the employers know that they can pay these people under minimum wage and they have not to pay benefits. I understand that their respective countries are not the best thing in the planet, but you know what, they are DEMANDING things(protests and isultingactions) from the government, and I am sorry it is not the U.S.' job to be the babysitter of the planet. I also agree that they wnat to better their lives, but there is a Legal way to do so, hentz  immigration laws and procedures.I had to do itthe legal way so can they!!\n\np.s.: It is unconceivable to think that in a country with 240+ million people you will not be able to fill up the jobs of those 19+ milion that right now are illegal here! \nLets use an example: 50 years ago before there were so many illegal immigrants in the country some of those jobs done by them right now had to be done by americans. And you know what? there are no reports of people complaining about the prices of vegetables , landscaping- illegals work construction- (which I may say, real state is overvalued right now, but that is a different argument).And more, the employers hire illegals so that they can maxime their marginal revenue, not because they want to charge less money from you.
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It is not difficult for them to find work as there as too many employers who are willing to hire them.  A lot of people believe that the immigrants are taking jobs away from Americans but that really is not true.  They are doing the jobs Americans wont do for the low pay.  Government on the state. local and federal levels needs to start being more harsh on employers who hire illegal immigrants.  A hefty fine for every illegal working would be a good start and closing down their businesses wouldnt hurt either and it is not just small businesses that hire illegals, large companies also hire them.