Does anyone think that women should be ordained ministers or elders?
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Here's both sides of the argument for you.\n\n"Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” (1 Corinthians 14.34-35, NIV).\n\nThe above verse, and a few other verses from Paul are the scriptures those opposed to women preachers use. Notice, however, that very few churches actually follow the ENTIRE verse which says that women should not even be allowed to speak.\n\nThose who believe women should be allowed to be preachers use the following verse from Acts as a support their argument:\n\nIn the last days it will be, God declares,that I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams. Even upon my slaves, both men and women, in those days I will pour out my Spirit; and they shall prophesy.\n\nIt would also be accurate to translate prophesy as preach. So, according to this passage, God will pour out his spirit on men and women and they will preach.\n\nAlso consider Galatians 3:28\n\nThere is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.\n\nAlso consider the fact that there were 3 women prophets in the Old Testament. I can only remember 2 of them right now, Miram and Deborah.\n\nNot a simple answer is it? You can see what a tough argument it is.\n\nPersonally I believe that Paul's answers reflect the culture of his time. Of of my mentors is a woman minister, as is my wife. I identify with a group of Baptists that supports women in ministry called the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship.\n\nI've given you some info, so you can make up your own mind.
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unfortunately yes. i mean its not bad that there is more freedoms for women. but would men have to pay the price for that? i don't know if you are saying that are people getting gay or something. but on the subject of women's rights, i think its becoming ridiculous. women should have lives and all that, but a mother isn't supposed to leave her children alone , and disobey her husband on their matters just because she can get a divorce when ever she likes, and still get the kids and all the money she needs, because the judge cant rule against here, or else he would be called sexist. and the sad part is that , this scenario actually happens a lot. i don't think women should have that much power, and as a result men would be powerless and we would change sides, and of course no man would dare speak out or else he would be accused of being sexist. women shouldn't be locked inside a house, tied to an oven. they can have interesting lives, but the mothers place is very vital to our society considering the fact that kids now don't have any morals or anything because they didn't have a strong mother figure, and because their mom was out partying, or campaigning for her office. there are some things for men, and some things for women. that would god said. and god isn't sexist , because he did tell us that we are all equal before him man or woman.
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I think women have made some real advances in pay, leadership, clout and respect.  But I also think that true parity is still some distance away.\n\nIt will ultimately take enough generations to pass, and the old-fashioned notions in people to pass with them, until women can get a truly-perceived equality.
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Why dont you just talk to your grandfather about attending a meeting and you will see for yourself.  Also realize nowdays there are different denominations like christianity.  These groups all have similar but different beliefs.  There is also a group that is run by women.
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It does seem to be a forgotten practice,but I blame the whole women's lib thing that has made it somehow wrong for a lady to enjoy being treated like a lady...sad indeed.\nRomance,courtship,and chivalry are all missed,even by those of us we never really had a chance to enjoy such things.
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I'll settle for anyone who is genuine and real up in the pulpit and isn't like these professionals who always preach the wrong sermon. There they are talking on some topic while the church is burning down. The sermon should be, "Fire, fire everybody out," if you understand this metaphor. Instead they argue doctrine or joke or repeat sermon number 105. A woman with some sense just might be a welcome change. She just might tell the congregation that the church has lost its saltiness. My, wouldn't that be a revelation!
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Well, when you are talking about the priesthood, I am not a good source since I am non-denominational. As for pastors, no, I think the Bible makes it clear for a man to do the teaching. However, women have a very important role in counseling other women.\nWomen have the greatest of the jobs because Jesus said that let he who is to be the greatest, be the servant.\nI was led to Christ by a very Godly woman named Myra. Being a woman does not limit you in who you can share with or bring to the Lord. However, in leadership, it should be a the male that takes charge.
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I think it would be nice to have the old way except the old thinking that women were not good enough for working in business.  I think they should have the option, for me --I've been in both situations and I missed my kids something awful and couldn't spend enough time with them.  This is definately a problem in society today.  Too many kids without adult supervision or parents who don't know what they are doing.  The woman who gets with you and can feel free to have kids and actually care for them herself is very lucky and so are the kids.
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There's no such thing as a woman priest.\n\nYou're thinking of a priestess.
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This is a leadership role. The women were to teach the younger women. This is the order that God has established for the church and the home.
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Christianity has no problem with women in the workplace. For me, however, mothers of young children should be discouraged from entering the workplace. When it is time for them to attend school, that would be a good time to get a job accordingly. But there is always freedom and flexibility in this subject. Children, however, should never be dumped into childcare. This is my opinion.
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Yes! Every preacher, male or female is there for one and only one purpose....to make money.\n\nThe will say what ever it takes to do so, even if it means making it look like she is doing it for other people.\n\nIf they cannot do it in a church, they will try to sell books to make money.\n\nEverything revolves around money. \n\nJesus said, freely ye have received freely give. Take neither silver nor gold for your purses.\n\nHe also Satan would make his ministers appear as angels of light.\n\nOh, and who ever said "The Hippocrites Are The Atheists & GOD Haters & Religion Bashers!" must be calling Jesus a hippocrite because he condimed and rediculed the hippocritical religounist and temple moneymakers in his day also.\n\nYou are not one of Jesus' followere if you do not CONDIM hippocritical religounist and temple moneymakers also.
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ofcourse! i think its time that women get some power and respect!
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Yes i would, it's about time, we had some really smart lady in charge. \nFor one on the most advanced nations on earth, we are one of the few democracies that have never had a woman leader.\nMaybe the time has come at last.
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Yes, and maybe women should dominate the relationships, and go off to work leaving five men at home all day.  Somehow I don't think you would like that idea nearly so much.\n\nAny culture or religion that allows men to be in charge of women, especially in numbers, wants to keep women subservient to men and to keep them shut out of anything they could have any influence on.  They also tend to be much more tolerant of men physically and verbally abusing women.\n\nThe men in these relationships are happy because they are in total control and can have sex whenever they want to because if one woman isn't in the mood, another is bound to be.  The women are only contented because it is the only life they have ever known; it is how they are taught they are supposed to live, and they are never allowed to develop their intellects enough to consider that there might be other options.
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your mom is going a little over the top here. Whereas the scriptures do provide an order for families, and churches there is no general requirement for single women to have a particular man 'covering her' in prayer. The passages on order in the family are 1 Cor 11, Eph 5, 1 Pet 3...\n\nIt is good to have others pray for you, God does not seem particular about their sex, and you want to be accountable to some kind of oversight in you ministry, either a pastor, elder or some kind of spiritual authority (1 Pet 5).\n\nGod bless you sister
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thank goodness this attitude is changing slowly but surely. remember in Ancient Times the Ladies were thought to be second class citizens and were the ones who brought sin into the world since Eve was the one who first ate the Forbidden Fruit and talked Adam into eating it. ( if one looks at the same scenario a little differently Eve -- representing the ladies was the one who brought wisdom and knowledge into the world ). before I moved I went to a Church where we had three Lady Ministers who did as good a job and sometimes actually better than men. should be the ability that counts not the gender.