Abortion? LAWS ARE WHACK?
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A lot of people think this is about religion, but it's not. It's about human rights. Scientific DNA testing would prove that the fetus is: A) a human being B) a different individual than the mother (so it is NOT a part of the mother's body), and C) that it is alive. To end the life of a fetus is to end the life of a living, individual human being. A culture proves its worth by how it treats the most vulnerable people within its society. Here in America, we seem to have no trouble killing these vulnerable humans. We freak out about animal rights, but human rights are thrown in the garbage along with aborted fetuses.
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That quote you have posted is just wrong in so many ways.  Why would any woman be so stupid as to degrade herself in saying men are not responsible for pregnancies and other parental issues?  Sex is not something that deserves punishment! It happens in nature, people were intended to do it, and there is nothing wrong with it.  NO ONE should be punished for acting on natural instinct.  I just hate it when people always act like it is so wrong--it's not! And as far as the pregnancy thing goes--people make mistakes.  Although you may be responsible and careful, it can happen.  It's just like driving a car: you may be a good driver, but it doesn't mean that you'll never crash.  Abortion is an upsetting thing, but it's just not practical to make it illegal.  Women can't always provide the support a baby will need, and I personally don't think it's up to men in the government to make decisions about abortion.  Men don't get pregnant, so why should they be able to decide? They have no basis for judgement.  As far as this Karen lady goes, why would she act to stop her own access to her rights? It just doesn't make sense to me.  Anyway, after that long rant, the answer to your question is NO.
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1.) Not sure that they feel pain, if they did I would think it would kill them because they are so fragile \n2.)The child is alive when there is a heartbeat.\n3.)That is life, a heartbeat, we know that someone is dead if they have no pulse and are alive if they do right?.\n4.) I don't think it should be legal except in the case of rape (which by the way you should have gotten the morning after pill if you went to the doctor anyway) or if it will cause the mother to die. \n5-6.)Yes, murder is taking the life of someone else. If they have a heartbeat and you take it from them for your own personal gain then yes. it is murder. especially in the case of partial birth abortion. That is just brutal.\n 8.)The government does need a say because they need to make the law,\n7.) should men? That is a hard one. A lot of men want children so badly and the only way to have your own child is if a women carries it but should they be able to tell a woman not to have a child? Absolutely not. So since a woman has the right to say you are relinquished of all resposibilities to this child part of me says the father should have the same rights but it is the womans body unfortunatly.\n10.) I can't stand the idea of abortion because I love children so much and I see so many people using it as a form of birth control and saying that it is a womans choice... well they also had the choice to wear a condom, to take a form of birth control (both free at family planning) and also the choice to not have sex! This is where I justify rape victims as they didn't have a chance to choose but all the other already made thier choice. Now they want to choose death for thier child because they are too young!?! Well then maybe you are too young for sex too. \n\nHow it affects me? High blood pressure and tears on my pillow at night.\n\nDoes no one rember ADOPTION is a possibility!?! All this "well the child would be abused" crap or "I couldn't give it a good life because I was too young" is rediculous! There are women all over crying for a child every night...did you forget about them!?
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I'd like to warn you that my opinion about abortion is based on reason, and very few people approach the abortion debate using reason. For most people, it's an emotional debate fueled by guilt. The emotions on the issue tend to run so deeply most people forget which is which. So I do apologize for any hurt feelings which result from my dealing with abortion reasonably.\n\nI support a woman's right to have control over their reproductive capacity. Abortion does not affect citizens (a person is not a citizen until they are born) or the intrinsic assets of the nation, so there is no legislative basis for there to be any laws taking rights away from a citizen (the pregnant woman). Two beings cannot occupy the same body with equal rights. One has to have veto power over the other. It would be revolting to not respect the rights of Life Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness for all citizens.\n\nFurthermore, abortion is not murder. Murder is the willful taking of one human's life by another human. I've seen pictures, and the fetus might look vaguely human, but physiologically a fetus is more like a salamander than a human. I know that sounds harsh, but there's also a degree to which deep down you know that it's true.\n\nNeurologically, the child isn't complete until it's a year old, and continues developing for about 25 years. So while it's still in the womb, it's certainly not a developed human. It's a part of our natural development for the brain to be undeveloped at birth because otherwise the head could never have fit through the opening. \n\nI asked the question "What makes humans distinct from other animals?" I received many interesting answers: The awareness that we are different from other animals, the ability to make rational decisions, the ability to suppress our animal nature, the ability to conceptualize good and evil, large brains, the ability to create art, the ability to question one's existence, speech, self improvement, and so on. At a glance, it's fairly obvious that a fetus does not have any of these qualities. In doing further research, I came across this website which I strongly recommend: http://7e.devbio.com/article.php?id=162\n\nA fetus has the potential of becoming human, but being human is a very special thing and a fetus isn't there yet. Being human is more than just a matter of our genetic make-up. It's about the way we think. Without the way we think, we are like any other animal. \n\nGiven that most people believe in the existence of a soul, It becomes an issue to consider when a person gets a soul. If you believe that only humans have souls, then the fetus doesn't have one because it's not yet human. It has the potential to become human, but it's not there yet. If you believe that all creatures have souls, then it has a soul to the degree to which a salamandar has a soul.As for what happens to the soul after death, If you believe in the polarity of Heaven and Hell, then the answer varies from person to person. If you believe in Karma, then that life served a purpose which it was there to do and can karmically celebrate that it's life accomplished what it was destined to accomplish.\n\nDon't get me wrong, I don't want anyone to think that I'm advocating killing babies. Babies are cute and respond well to people, kinda like puppies, and I am also opposed to killing puppies. In fact I have often been very supportive of all things child related and puppy related. But when it comes right down to it, and we consider the neural biology, certain facts become apparent. But I want to make it very clear that I am in no way advocating infanticide, which is much nicer than the bible which doesn't even mention infanticide despite the fact that it was commonly practiced at the time. In fact, until about a hundred years ago, I can't recall this ever having been much of an issue ever in the history of the world. Bu
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Yes, I agree that it should always be illegal.  The number of cases where the mothers life is in danger is miniscule in comparison to when it is not.  I have been there and gone through with it.  I regret it.  A lot.  Thankfully, I have a Savior who is forgiving........
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*Stepping into this* 1st it should be nobody's business what a woman does with her own body, besides that particular woman.\n2nd If you are male and trying to tell a woman what to do on this topic, simply shut up. We men will never fully understand. (Unless someday science allows males to conceive, carry and birth a baby.)\nOn the topic, I'm neither pro or con, just realize something as personal as this is a personal decision and respect that fact.\nNow, if you are for the war and/or capital punishment you should go away and rethink your values as you are a hypocrit.\nThose who are left, you have your opinion, great I respect that, but you know what they say about opinions...\n\nBut if you want to see the number of abortions go down, make our government allow "The Morning After Pill" like the rest of the civilized world has. It is the fault of each and everyone of you that abortion still exists when we know of far better methods. Take responcibility and do what is needed so we have ALL options available!\n\nWelcome to the world where right wing religious conservatives think they have a right/duty to take away everyone else's rights and force them to do what they want you to do.\nSeems to me that is not the freedom countries are founded on.\n\nIf it bothers you, be very very sure that you vote freedom of choice for every bloody official position there is, from school board to president. It is time the pendulum swung back to the middle instead of the victorian insanity we see today...\n\n*Editing in a note* See below, that was not I who is trying to make a clump of cellular tissue into a baby.
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Good for N. Dakota! I can only hope that the rest of this nation comes to it"s senses soon also.Life begins when God breaths the soul into the child. I beleive that is at the moment of conception. To abort a baby while it's in it's mothers womb is nothing short of murder. When that dredful day of roe v wade came, and the decision was made, we did not have the technology we do now. We now can see in detail how alive this baby is.I know this is a hot topic, and both sides feel very strongly about their positions. I however cannot ignore the evidance that we can so clearly see, and say that this is a lifeless blob growing inside it's mother. No, it's a child alive and growing. God forgive us for all the murders we have done. Because it's legal dos not make it right. When it was illegal it was done and it was wrong, and now that it is legal it is still WRONG!
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no one loves abortion, and the women who have them usually are making the right choice.lets talk republican shall we? your so focused on abortion, you are latting our country go broke. you dont want welfare? so let a bunch of people have kids they cant take care of. oh and while your out being conservitave your kids are out getting high on meth and getting impregnated by strangers.
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In Ontario, I'm pretty sure at a clinic on Mount Pleasant allow abortions up to the third trimester which is covered by Ontario Health Care Insurance. I am not making a comment with respect to my feelings because I don't feel it is my business to comment when not asked.
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The Lady is a Doctor, she was protesting the practice of organ harvesting in China and other Human rights issues. She has every right to speak out on a issue which she finds objectionable. Just as those who Hate Abortion have a right to voice their opinion. She should not be taken to court on any charge. If she is given jail time many will see this police action by the Republicans for what it is.
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First of all, they are making the women who give their babies up sound like criminals. I mean, when you file bankruptcy the blurb in the paper is only in for one day. I, for one, admire women that give up their babies for adoption. They have the brains & heart to know they can not take care of the baby and they choose to carry to term instead of get an abortion. It will definitely raise the amount of abortions. It's crazy.
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You state, "SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS THEN JUST STOP READING MY POSTS," may I suggest you take you own advice? If you don't like the abortion laws in this country, why not "STFU" about it and move to a country where abortion is illegal?\n\nYou seem very stressed out. Ranting and raving without any regard for logic, punctuation or grammar can do that to a person. Why not make things easier on yourself? I'm sure you'd find Haiti lovely. Or maybe somewhere in Sub-Saharan Africa is more your style? If not, there are plenty of other 3rd world countries to choose from.\n\nGood luck.
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Abortion is murder, you are killing a life (the fetus IS alive at the MOMENT of conception). Abortion is the must DISGUSTING thing ever.\n\n1) why should we punish the child, it was NOT the child's fault it was born\n2) With sex comes responsibilities, and if you're going to engage, you BETTER be willing to pay (whether it means adoption, giving up your life for theirs, what ever the consequence is- you better be ready.)\n3) From the moment of conception it has its own DNA coding, therefore it's tech. not the "women's body", the only thing the women is doing is housing and feeding it.\n4) The two participating had the choice whether or not they were ready to deal with the consequences so why give them more choices if they're already making bad ones?\n5) rape, I sympathise greatly, but why punish the child? it's not the child's fault, yes it is a HUGE burden and COSNTANT reminder, but still- from a political perspective it's all or nothing, if it were up to me those who were raped (politically) would have the choice (religion in there there would be no rape or abortion- but that's not life). If I were raped though I would definately keep the child though. But in politics it's all or nothing.\n6) There is ALWAYS adoption- if you're willing to kill a child, why are you worried about its life in an adoption agency???\n7) We are not God, we do not have the right to say who lives and who dies. \n8) From the moment of conception it IS alive.(to be alive it has to fill 4 criterias, (1) metabolism, (2) growth, (3) reaction to stimuli, and (4) reproduction)\n9) It's either pro-life or pro-death, not pro-choice because where is that child's choice? and the oppisite of life is death and that's what they are saying is good- the right to put a child to death- YAY!!! hah not!\n\nI see NO plausible defense for this abomination at all.
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Because women have it both ways,it makes no sense but they have the legal system so slanted to allow them to kill their unborn children it appears to be a hypocrisy.Just remember this,IF YOU DIDN`T HAVE AN ABORTION YOU WOULD HAVE A LIVING BREATHING CHILD!!!!Women can kill their kids but NOBODY else can. GO FIGURE!
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I'm pro-choice. A woman's rights come before that of the clump of cells and tissues that have invaded her uterus.
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omg! Thank you for showing that link. Abortion is so wrong. It's criminal.\n\nAnswer to garass-- babies that are born can't take care of themselves either is that a form of parasite, too?
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There are more reasons than "I didn't want the baby" that women have abortions.  Health (of mother and fetus), rape, age, lifestyle, are some factors in why a woman chooses to abort.  If Abortion wasn't legal, She wouldn't have the law and health care providers looking out for her overall welfare (for her and her unborn fetus).  In the grand scheme of things, it's only in recent history that women have even been consider as actual people with rights.  We have made great strides in that arena in a very short period, but the fact of the matter is...men unfortunately still hold governmental power, and if abortion wasn't legal, we would be taking HUGE leaps backward in equal civil rights for ALL humans regardless of race, or sex.  When most people think of abortion, they think that women use it as a form of birth control...and while I"m not argueing that they don't (because a small percentage do) But most people don't realize that there are many factors that go into making that kind of decision, and if it's taken away from us, then in effect, we are being told that we don't have a right to choose. Women can't get pregnant without a man...whether it be through physical contact, or insemination.  Taking away the right to an abortion takes away the right for us to decide what we want to do with our body...It's easy for a man to get a woman pregnant. It's not always easy for a woman to give birth, and a lot of women have died trying.    Might as well take away our right to vote, or our right to hold a job, or our right to not have a man tell us what to do and when to do it (which at one point in history was a law).  Abortion is about women, plain and simple...We are the only ones that have the power of giving birth...and until men can start giving birth, they are going to do everything they can to take away our rights as individuals with that power, and this is one way they are trying. And you can better believe that if men ever become capable of giving birth, there would be no way abortion would even be talked about as an issue...it would just be law, plain and simple...because making abortion illegal is only about how men can control women.