Why do conservatives say, “We got our own to think about” and then support the war?
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They are doing exactly what they're saying.  They're thinking about their own check book and their own deals and their own oil...  I think you get the jist of it.
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This posting isn't too awful.  \nThe idea that liberals dance when they see the casualties of war is another spin column used by the neocons.\nIt is unclear how the conservatives are able to pander to the lower and middle class.\nIs it hip to be ignorant?  I'm afraid ignorance is in at the moment.  This helps to make those with average to low intelligence feel some sense of pride.  \n\nThose who lied and sent our troops into harms way on a known false premise will burn in hell.
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For the same reason they profess so much support for our troops in the field but disdain them when they end up needing help when they get home. I recall seeing a report that for much of the '80's amd 90's, a huge percentage of the homeless were former vets dealing with psychological issues related to combat in Vietnam. Did you see the conservatives directing resources to help them? No. They kicked people out of psychological hospitals and homes under the pretext of integrating them into their communities and then cut funding to the very community programs intended to help them. The result, thousands were left homeless.\n\nNow they're at it again waiving the flag and protesting their patriotism. Mark my words. Ten years from now, a significant portion of the homeless will be vets of the Iraq and Afghanistan conflcts.
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Been there, done that, Viet Nam.  The extreme right thinks you can do no wrong and the extremem left thinks you can do no right.  As I looked over the answeres here, just like in American society the majority of people will support you.  A soldier does not have a blank check to do what he wants during a war and is always responsible for what he does.  You state your feelings excellently and it is impossible for those who have never been through a combat experience to know what you are going through in your thoughts and in the actions you have to perfrom during combat.  You must  live with your experiences the rest of your life.  No, it is not easy being a soldier and I pray that you have made the right decisions in your experiences.  I would never judge you and neither should anyone else except God. You sound like the kind of soldier that all of America can be proud of.  Always do the right thing and don't worry about people that want to condemn you, they don't really count.
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I support the war because I support freedom and democracy. If the U.S. were to initially retreat from Iraq now, chaos will inevitable consume everyone in a global standard. \n\nBecause terorists are a large group of people who seek to kill those who do not believe in their faith, something should be done NOW instead LATER. Who knows, we could have all faced something worse on 9/11. Unless people want their own bus stops to be bombed, then we should all support the war efforts.\n\nOne last thing; people can support the war but not the government or the president. Though I am a Bush-supporter; this does NOT mean that liberals have to like Bush or accord with him if they support the War on Terror.
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You silly thing.  We support the IDEALS of the conservative movement.  Less government involvement, free trade, family values and less taxes followed by a strong national defense.  Just because we got a bad lot that lots of us agree probably got what they deserved doesn't mean our ideals of the conservative movement has changed.\n\nPart of making your party stronger is finding the problem and correcting it.  Is that cut-and-running? or is evolution? (thru you off there didn't I).  \n\nSo, at the end of the day why wouldn't I support those who have the same ideals and values as me?  Pelosi doesn't represent my ideals anymore than Delay does one stands for many things I completely disagree with and one is a complete fraud who I cannot support because my values dictate that I cannot.  \n\nThis wasn't an election to PROVE that conservative movement is dead.  It was an election about getting rid of those who didn't do their jobs either by a large number of democrats voting and a large number of republicans not voting or switching their votes in defiance.\n\nPelosi fixes the world still won't change what our values and ideals are that's just silly.  You one an election not the case against conservatism.
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Why do self-proclaimed conservatives have absolutely no grasp of history or politics?\n\nIraq has never attacked us.  Ever.  We have attacked the soveriegn nation of Iraq two times completely un-provoked.  The first time we had no alliance with Kuwait and still became involved.  The second we went to war under the pretense that Iraq would proliferate WMD's to terrorists...neither part of that charge makes any sense to an intelligence analyst (myself among them).\n\nWhen those twin towers collapsed on 9/11, the media was immediately handed a culprit within minutes.  The first question that should have been asked from an un-emotional standpoint is "Who benefits?" (que bono?), the "Who did this?" would logically flow straight from this.  Facts are nasty things though, and nearly all "couch conservatives" would rather tout hate speech rather than research an actual fact.\n\nMy favorite arguements:\n1) Bush is big on national security, I feel safer with Bush in power.\n\nFact:  We have over 11 million illegal immigrants in our country and they keep coming and going at their leisure.  Our borders are little more than Swiss cheese.\n\n2) Liberals want to take away our freedoms, they're just like the terrorists.\n\nFact:  The PATRIOTS acts introduced by our Bushie friends have destroyed our constitution by rendering it invalid.\n\n3) Liberals want big government and to waste our tax dollars.\n\nFact:  Under the Bush administration, government spending increased 25%.  This is the biggest increase since Lyndon B. Johnson's administration during Vietnam.  We have also reached a trade deficit with Asia of almost $1 billion just in the first quarter of this year.  Our national debt is now at a record almost $7 trillion.  Under Clinton, we actually had a budget surplus and our national debt was in reversal...wierd for a "criminal" eh?\n\n4) Liberals don't support our troops!\n\nFact:  Veteran's Benefits have been repeatedly cut in the last 6 years to the point where some vets no longer have benefits from Republican introduced bills in Congress that Bush happily signed into law.  Liberals also want our troops to come home to do the job of defending our country, not become psychologically scarred and physically maimed.\n\n5) Bush is "smoking the terrorists out of their holes"\n\nFact:  There are 3 times more "terrorists" in the world today than before 9/11.  Osama himself had been cornered more than once and each time our Special Forces were ordered to "stand down" the moment before capture via mysterious orders from on high.\n\nTo this date, there has only been 1 single (dubious) conviction of an Al Queada member in a court of law for a (potential) terrorist act.\n\n6) Bush is "finding and punishing the guilty party (for 9/11)".\n\nFact:  We spent a total of $9 million to investigate the events of 9/11.  We spent $54 million to investigate Clinton's affair.  ALL forensic evidence (camera footage, building wreckage, financial records, black boxes, etc) has been carted off and sealed and no independent OR government sponsored investigators have been allowed near it.  7 of the 19 alleged hijackers are alive and well in their home countries as of today.\n\nIn short, keep watching your Fox news and your American Idol (the Roman Empire called it the "bread and circuses" approach), save your hate speech for your Sunday school class, and at least do a modicum of research before you spout something you overheard your misinformed parents rattle off.
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I think you hit the nail on the head here.  Sadly, most people (politicians and voters alike), believe the opposition is moronic, evil, or simply wrong.  We can't seem to listen respectfully, and hear an idea out, without noticing it came from the other side.  \nI personally believe that both liberals and conservatives want what is best for America, for the most part.  They are just at odds about what is best.
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Hah! That's funny...whew independent thinking. \n\nWell, that is really the meaning and idea of being a conservative. Adopting set ideas that don't change and are not open for debate. It comes natural to them.\n\nAny intellectual capacity they do have is not used for discovery and introspection but to establish an arguable defense for their staid ideas.
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I totally agree with you!!  That is exactly what my husband, son, and I did just a week before the war started--we held a Support Rally for the Troops, at out State Capital.  It was neither for, nor against the war--rather to tell the men and women about to answer their calls to duty that we were here to stand behind them and support them.  There had been so many protests on TV, high school walk-outs, teens burning books, and other such atrocities.  We just wanted to let our troops, and their families, know that we were proud and grateful that they were serving our country and protecting our freedom to express our own beliefs.  Ironically, to include the kids who's rights to free education that were being protected, as they were walking out.
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Probably from the phrase "My heart bleeds for  you."  In other words, "I'm totally sympathetic to your plight."  It was applied to liberals by conservatives who have no sympathy for those less fortunate than themselves.  They firmly believe that a person who was raised by a drug-addicted mother and had to quit school to support himself has exactly the same chance in life as a person raised by a loving upper-class family and therefore deserves no help from government agencies.  Liberals, however, believe that if government assistance can raise a person's chances to make a good life for himself and be a productive member of society, then let's help out.
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The war is obviously not about oil. The left only chooses to portray the war that way because they think they can more easily capture the attention and support of the American population as a whole using an easy-to-understand subject. By proclaiming to the people that the war is all about oil and backing their argument up with un-researched facts, the vast majority who cannot think for themselves are easily swayed (this of course, is why the vast majority of liberals cannot think for themselves). \n\nAnd of course, when an unpatriotic soldier says that the war MUST be about oil because the first thing the troops did was head for the oil fields, this soldier must be absolutely brainless. The soldier does not realize that, 1) the borders are completely covered in oil fields and the country could not have been invaded without passing through them at some point, and 2) this action was taken to prevent what happened last time (e.g. the oil fields being set on fire, causing a massive loss of oil and resulting in negative health effects in a wide area).\n\nAlso, the liberals need to take some time to sit down and think logically. Oil prices in the United States have been on a constant rise since before the war started. If the U.S.'s purpose in invading Iraq was to gain a monopoly on the oil market, then reserves would be greater and prices would be lower. Don't try to argue this fact with stupid liberal logic, the fact of the matter is, you're wrong and all of this is elementary.\n\nThe war, obviously, began as an attempt to strike back at terrorism and to secure the safety of the U.S. and its allies after the events of 9/11. Liberals can make biased, unintelligent statements such as "Saddam didn't crash the planes into the twin towers" or "The ones we are fighting are just citizens defending their country", but people who make such statements are completely wrong in several aspects. Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, the planners and executers of the attacks, had/have strong ties in Iraq. Saddam, although he may not have been directly involved, was guilty of harboring terrorists and committing acts of terrorism himself (mass murder to name one).\n\nAs a result of invading Iraq, many terrorist connections have been broken and leaders of terrorist organizations have been captured. This is fact, not biased speculation. Saddam's regime, which was guilty of many terrorism-based acts, has been eliminated for the most part, and Iraq's people are much safer. The remaining organized terrorism is still fighting, and the U.S. is fighting back hard. Many previously-deprived citizens of Iraq now have access to food, water, medicine, and transportation. Over 25 million people have literally been rescued by the noble actions of the United States, actions that perplexingly divide the opinions of the nation. Liberals need to realize that the war may be costly and that many of the reasons originally given for its initiation were unsupported by fact, but that more good has come out of the war than bad. Liberals whose beliefs are so heavily anchored in human rights and the greater good should have no problems accepting these facts, and should keep their fat mouths shut for once in history.\n\nNone of these opinions and facts discussed are biased, simply logical. I'm not asking liberals to become republicans, just to look logically at the war in general and to see which side really is biased and unsupported by fact. If you can't see the logic in the war, then just don't say anything at all, and stop trying to treat this war like another Vietnam.\n\nThe salvation of 25 million innocent people has been gained at the price of between 2 and 3 thousand lives of U.S. soldiers. Yes, their lives were important, but personally I think that's a really good deal. Think about it.
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Not in the event of war ,i.e. (War on terrorism).. The liberals are really trying to get this one to stick, but I'm tellin' ya right now.. This dog ain't gonna hunt.. The lefties need to go find another pseudo-crisis to whine about..
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I have a bumper sticker that reads "dissent is the highest form of patriotism"- a Thomas Jefferson quote, next to my veteran license plate.  The general response in my highly conservative hometown, is indifference.\nThe way I see it, what better way to support our troops than to protect their lives?
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Conservatives are typically protection-minded, as in typically protective of the country and our way of life. Liberals tend to do a lot of america-bashing, they hate this, they hate that, they have a 'favorite minority of the month' kind of thing, they care more about starving kids somewhere else than starving kids in america, that kind of thing...their focus is more on 'the poor' and some other country than on fixing america....
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Those who know politics know what true conservatives think.\n\nBut here is the core contradiction in conservative philosophy that liberals (via historical data) recognize as the source of so much social dysfunction when conservative philosophy is implemented:\n\n"We believe that each individual is responsible for his development. We believe that family is the best support group for individuals. And we believe that private institutions like churches and synagogues, charities, private enterprises and so forth are best support group for families." (Mark Levin Fan.com)\n\nYou can't have it both ways!\n\nHillary was right, it does take a village, not only to raise a child, but to provide for adults, too.
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The main problem is that these "WORDS" are tossed around and used incorrectly! \n\nLiberal (Left Wing) should mean a free thinker, open minded, ect...\n\nConservatives (Right Wing) are people who should save, protect, or carefully use assets or make choices that require unclouded thinking.\n\nIn the end it's all a bunch of bull shit! The so called conservatives are ignorant minions of the wealthy and powerful. The GOP (grand over-class party) is a great example of this. They spend our money on bull shit like there's no tommorrow and try and oppress those who oppose them. They suck at social justice. (We are a Christian Nation yet we treat our poor and powerless like shit by cutting funding to important social programs and education). And they are great at filling their own pockets and the pockets of their masters with our hard earned tax dollars. This all goes against the saying "they will know we are Christian by our love".\n\nThe left wingers don't want people telling them how to live or what kind of choices they can make. BUT there are some things that shouldn't happen like a federal recongized homosexual marriage. The people need to vote on stuff like that. There are so many more important social and legal issues that need to be fixed before jumping onto a sword like that! \n\nIt all comes down to money and power. Right wingers leaders lie just as well if not better than left wingers. Don't let the left or right wing control your mind. Don't use these "Words" to lable yourself or others because these words are not used for what they mean. \n\nEducate yourself on the issues not by Watching FOX NEWS or CNN but by opening up a book and your mind.