once you make the oath  ... and you decide not to go to boot camp. can they still make you go?
366005
Alright,  if you dep in then you actually take the oath twice(well most in the army do).  You actually don't owe the military(whatever branch it is) anything until you sign the dotted line.  Once you sign your contract, it's the same as any contract.  The difference is when you break a contract with say a regular privately owned company or buisness you go to court and if you never worked a day or recieved a dime for them the judge will probably say ok see ya later.  This contract is with the government so it's not so easy.  You can't get a Bad Conduct Discharge because you didn't do anything deemed "Bad Conduct" like felony illegal shit.  You would get at worst an under other than honorable conditions discharge which would still prevent you from getting student loans.  However you can appeal to have your discharge upgraded after a period of time.  My brother in law got the boot from the army for dealing drugs and after two appeals he now has an honorable discharge so just to put things in perspective.  Once you report to basic you have the ability to leave relatively painlessly except you will have to pay for the money they spent on you.  Once you graduate BCT(Basic Combat Training) you go into AIT(Advanced Individual Training).  That's when they "own" you.  They don't own you though.  You have one year to try to get a "failure to adapt" chapter.  The basic jist is don't sign unless you want to do it.  Understand what you're getting in to and don't take your recruiters word for gold cause it's there job to make you sign and they're good at it.  Hope this helps
852114
One does not enroll in the Army.  You enlist and commit your life to the public good.  It doesn't matter who you have sex with as long as you comply with the UCMJ and behavior policies (ie Don't Ask, Don't Tell).  You break the rules, you pay the consequences.
1030223
If you were called to the Military and they were to send you to Iraq you don't have a choise as to what you would do and wouldn't do.  When the military tells you something.  You can't question it or tell them no.  Unless of course you are wanting to go through a life of hell afterwards.  So in other words you have no say as to what you would or wouldn't do if you were called up and sent overseas.  You just have to follow orders.
745236
I'm assuming that he is still in the Delayed Entry Program and hasn't been sworn in at MEPS yet.  If this is the case, just talk to the recruiter and he will be able to get out of it.  They can't force you to go to Boot Camp, but once you are there, it's done.
199258
Yes, and by many means. Just make sure you do so BEFORE they are scheduled to deploy anywhere, or it will be a lot harder. The easiest way is to simply stop going to drills. yes you can get all sorts of hell for it it, but recruitment and retention in guard is SO low right now, they try NOT to give you a discharge that would prevent you from getting back in at a future point. The easiest way beside that, and perhaps the safest, is get an address at least 50 miles from your unit, were they dont have a unit availible with your MOS. The guard must offer to give you another job, but if its not your MOS, it, you can legallly refuse and its a discharge.If you havent done basic yet, or your schooling, when you go to meps, just tell them you have ashma and your recruiter told you to lie about it. They will instantly belive you and discharge you on the spot.
660212
it also depends on the branch. personally i can only speak for the air force when i say that yes they can use it to get discharged...stateside. in Iraq, though, it would be strictly case by case. and, no, they would not get in trouble for it. there would be so much more controversy surrounding the "don't ask, don't tell" rule if they doled out punishments for it. again, i am speaking from an air force standpoint.
9656
Yes...for men and women it is possible to perform a SIE (Self-Initiated Elimination) from basic training.  If you select do to this while at basic training, they will remove you from your flight silently (so as not to embarass you) and you will be sent home.  You may be required to make reparitions on any contracts you signed (e.g. give back your bonus money or any benefits) and you will, in most cases, not be allowed to re-join the military at any future point.  \n\nRight after basic training, you have already signed your contract, and barring issues like conscientiously objecting, coming out as a homosexual, or failing to meet retention standards, you will not be able to easily separate from the Air Force.\n\nI certainly recommend the Air Force though!
305256
your initial contract for for 8 years total.  You still owe them 3 years.  Now, you COULD ignore them, but at what cost?  They may or may not decide to hunt you down and drag you off kicking and screaming, but more likely what would happen is that your chances of getting any kind of loan, Federal or otherwise, just dropped down to nil.  zero.  nada.  and if you get pulled over for runninga  stopsign?  you just may find tourself in jail awating the Army's convenience to decide whether or not you are worth the trouble to court martial you.\n\nWorth it?
315637
If you genuinely can't hack the AIT for the MOS you've selected, I believe you get to reclass for something that may be more your speed.  Otherwise, you get recycled to the next Co. coming through.  At least that's what happened in my unit.  I've actually never heard of anyone getting put out of the Army altogether.
797694
go ahead and refuse to put the uniform on,, or refuse to train,, i guaranty that some one like me will be along to pick you up put cuffs on you and place you in the brig, after your courts marshal,,look you might be a pansy CO, but you signed the contract just like every one else did of your own free will, do as your told full fill your commitment then get out but don't do something you are going to regret and cause your self more trouble than you need.
704886
If you want to serve, they are still using the "don't ask, don't tell policy".  You are probably better off asking groups like this if you do not want to ask officially.  \n\n the questions are just hypothetical, just leave them alone.
698664
You can go straight to active duty, I believe.  You may even have to.
162179
He is not sworn in yet, he would still at this point have to report for his physical and also be sworn in.\n\nThe recruiter is not going to help you or tell you anything about getting out.  You need to read the contract yourself and see about where the cluse is.\n\nAlso look on the paper work for a commanding officers office and number. \n\nJoining the army is not like going to work at Walmart, you can't just quit.
246855
Ok i'm going to be open and honest to you, i'm in a boot camp right now in texas. I was born and raised in indiana right by Cincinnatti, Ohio. The reason i'm in a boot camp, (actually it is called an academy) is in 2004 my father kicked me out of the house and my mom called me in as a run away. my parents are still married. so after i was found i was sent to a group home, because there was signs and well i told on my dad for abusing me. the group home wasn't found appropriate for me because i had emotional damage, severe depression, signs of bi polar, and all this drama, so they sent me to northern indana to a treatment facility. after a year there and no improvement i was supposed to be placed in a foster home. I was scared. I screwed up my family, i felt i could not do anything. the treatment center was not helping me at all and lying to me. I made the mistake of running away from the treatment facilty and was paced in two different detention centers then finally sent down here. This is the best place for me. I wouldn't of learned anything if i went into foster care. maybe for some kids its right, but during my time in placement i know a lot of kids hate it and have been abused in it. maybe this has helped you or confused you more sorry if it had \nif you want to ask me any questions you can e-mail me at ndtschaenn@swtjc.net
933828
No. We're recruits in the navy until we graduate boot camp.
1109259
Not & stay in military. You are wierd!
911576
doubt you can do that.most are already retired and i'm guessing the rest already might have tried to serve in the armed forces and were rejected for some reason. Or maybe they served already and didn't renew their service contract,so they shouldn't be forced to serve if they don't wish to.unless of course congress does reinstate the draft and then everyone is fair game.