did the trojan war really start over jealousy or was it an excuse to start the war?
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I think it was started when some woman was stolen I dont recall but I know that woman was related to Penelope, Odysseus' wife.
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No. It was more of a racial scapegoating. There was envy because the Jews prospered. There was antisemitism in Germany before the Nazis but Nazis gained and maintained their power by blaming the Jews and others for a lot of things.
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I've heard both sides of this story from many facets. The truth is that only leaders and rulers start wars, not the people who work and raise their families. There is something wrong with this "world view" isn't there?
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No, I do not.\n\nSex is far older as a motivation for human conflict.  Individuals against each other for a single partner or tribe against tribe for sex slaves and wives.\n\nPower predates Religion as a force as well.  Sargon of Persia was the first human (at least in recorded history) to rule more than a single “City.”  He was also the first to have a paid standing army.\n\nHumans will always find an excuse for armed conflict.  Even if the reason is resources (oil) it is easier to sell as “democracy” vs. “religious terrorism.”\n\nDon’t get me wrong, religious reasons are real and do cause a lot of conflict.  But it is not the root of humanity’s problems.  Lack of tolerance, greed, power and even lust are far more responsible for current world events.
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absolutely. love and jealousy are total opposites. love is wanting someone else to be happy; jealousy is wanting yourself to be happy at someone else's expense. read "stranger in a strange land" by robert heinlein for more on this subject.
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He most certainly could have, but he had no reason to. Rome had not yet left its peninsula and was not a particularly prosperous area. All of the riches were to the east.
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I am the jealous type. When I was younger(teenager) I might have wandered what my g/f was giggling about especially after hanging up the phone abruptly when I came into the room too. But Ive learned to control my emotions better now that Im older. Ive been in several relationship where my jealousy was true, meaning that I was cheated on. But I am not holding a grudge. Somtimes my jealousy was not true. Infact it was somtimes concieved in paranoia. This can be a very bad thing especially in a relationship. If you start interogating your lover, partner, ect. for 15 Minutes everyday, your relationship will be meaningless. There wont be trust, and true feelings. That is not to say you should turn a blind eye either. If your lover, partner, ect. is engaging in questionable activties, you should confront them only with evidence. With unexplainable evidence, no believable lie can be told. You should take a few minutes and think about your jealousy. Ask yourself is it WELL founded? Im sure you know this, but if you truly love someone,and you think they love you(not just temperary lust) you can sit down and talk with them about these things that are causing jealous feelings to stir, you may just find that there is no reason to get jealous afterall.
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Pure jealousy is the reason.  \n\nDon Pedro, The Prince of Arragon returns from victory against his bastard brother, the rebellious Don John.  Don John devises a plan to disrupt the happiness created by Don Pedro's return.
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It is about the Trojan war, and it is called 'Iliad' because it means 'the story of Troy'. It was written by Homer, a Greek, and takes place in about 1255BC. Queen Helen of Sparta, married to King Menelaus, is the most beautiful women in the world. She is (there is controversy about this part) stolen from Sparta by Paris, a prince of Troy. Some think that she went willingly, some don't. But the Iliad doesn't cover that part. It leaps right into the war, because of course Menelaus wants her back! He asks his brother, King Agamemnon of Mycenae, to help him. The war last 10 years, and the Greeks win, thanks to Odysseus, a Greek soldier. The sequel is The Odyssey, also by Homer, and it is the story of Odysseus, who sails for 20 years, trying to get home, and his adventures. His wife, Penelope, refuses to believe he is dead.\nA good 'kid story' of the Iliad is Goddess of Yesterday by Caroline B. Cooney (not the complete story) and a good kid story of the Odyssey is Waiting for Odysseus by Clemence McLaren.
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The 'Shield of Achilles' depicts the entirety of the Homeric world, but more importantly, the City at War and the City at Peace.\n\nThese representations also relate to Achilles' two differing fates described by his immortal mother: Leave the Trojan siege and lead a long, but uneventful life in the City at Peace or stay at Troy (City at War), acquiring glory, honor, and immortality(warrior ethos), but dying shortly thereafter on the battlefield.\n\nPatroklos' death was the catalyst in which Achilles' divine-like rage overwhelmed all considerations of the mortal world including the heroic ethos. Achilles' desire for revenge could only lead him to the City at War.
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Admittedly, the definitions for envy and jealousy in our culture may be very similar.  However, there has been extensive philosophical debate as to whether or not jealousy and envy are, in fact, the same emotion.  \n\nI believe that they are not the same emotion because whereas jealousy indicates a concern for losing something precious to the person experiencing the jealousy; envy seems to refer to a distorted perception of one's success or prosperity in competition or relationship to that [the succes or prosperity] of another - and clearly, the "alleged" opponent is, undeservedly, far better off, as far as the envious person is concerned.  Likewise, the way I see it, jealousy seems more concerned with someone keeping what they have, while envy appears to extend to acquiring things others have, and thereby depriving them of pleasure or enjoyment of those things.\n\nCrimes or offenses committed as a result of jealousy have frequently been categorized as "crimes of passion."  A wife who catches her husband 'in flagrante delicto' with another man or woman might be inclined to kill.  This would be considered a crime of passion.  Crimes or offenses commited as the result of envy usually tend to encompass the corruption, or contamination of anything which was once good, pure or otherwise outstanding.  An adult who is dissatisfied with his mate because they are no longer attractive may put himself in a situation where his involvement ends up emotionally scarring, if not destroying a budding relationship between two impressionable young people.  \n\nLastly, the mathematics of jealousy and envy are quite different, too.  Jealousy involves three people to complete its equation, but envy only requires two individuals to manifest itself.  \n\nHere is an example of jealousy:  A husband might be jealous of his wife's long-standing friendship with her high-school sweetheart because he fears that she doesn't like him as much as she does her high-school sweetheart.\n\nHere is an example of envy:  A husband wishes he were more prosperous in life like his wife's high-school sweetheart, whom he despises for being so successful, because his wife sometimes reminds him that he could've done better, or made different choices - which makes him [the husband] feel like a loser.
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Odysseus , Lat. Ulysses [yOOlis'ēz] , in Greek mythology, son and successor of King Laertes of Ithaca. A leader of Greek forces during the Trojan War, Odysseus was noted (as in the Iliad) for his cunning strategy and his wise counsel. He is the central figure of the Odyssey, which tells of his adventures after the fall of Troy. In post-Homeric legend, however, he was pictured as a wily, lying, and evil man. He avoided service in the Trojan War by feigning madness—until exposed by Palamedes, whom he later treacherously caused to be executed.
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Snap ~\n             It was the Greeks that held actual Fighting Competitions compared to the Romans who loved when men fought with swords, spears and shields and fought to the death. The Greeks thought there was mor honor in fighting with just ones hands instead of weapontry and let the beaten one live in the hopes he could redeem himself in fighting again.\n\n             The Greeks did everything naked back in the day and yes Snap, fighting was one of them.
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If you take the account of the Battle of Troy (not the movie) as fact then you could say that the Trojan horse was an instance of the guards of Troy not being "on guard." According to Homer in the Illiad (I believe) they went out and brought in the horse and thus allowed the city to be taken and completely destroyed.
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Both were Greek city-states.  They fought wars against each other in the old Greek epics and histories.  Go to history.com and research it if you want more specifics.
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Although Shakespeare does not answer this question in his play, the source on which he based the play–The Tragical History of Romeus and Juliet (1562), by Arthur Brooke, does provide an answer: envy. According to Brooke, the ancestors of the Capulets and Montagues were esteemed, well-to-do aristocrats who wished to be the center of attention. Consequently, the Capulets were jealous of the Montagues, and vice versa. And so, Brooke says, a feud was born: \n\n     "Of grudging envy's root, black hate and rancour grew \n      As, of a little spark, oft riseth mighty fire."
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No, It wasn't Clinton's idea.\n\nThe first war with Iraq was @ 1990-1991 - BEFORE Clinton. Thanks, Daddy Bush.\n\nClinton tried to kill Bin-Laden with a Cruise Missile Strike During the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Many people (including myself) thought it was a cheap tactic to get the attention off of the president. Perhaps if a third cruise missile was launched, 9/11 might not have happened...\n\nBush CONVINCED us that Iraq had WMD and ties to Al Queda within it's borders, and used our patriotism to get congress to sign off on a war with Iraq.