what does a black widow and brown recluse spider bite look like and best treatment & best way to kill them?
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I cannot comment on black widow bites, but I am currently recovering from a brown recluse bit on my right buttock.  I did not know when it bit me.  I did not get sick nor did I die (of course!).  I just noticed a raised area about the size of a pea.  It kept spreading, getting red, and feeling hot.  I had some tingling in my right leg.  I had trouble getting in and out of the car, etc due to the area of the bite.  I ended up going to the doctor after suffering for about a week.  He put me on antibiotics (Keflex as I am allergic to the good stuff) - 4 a day for 7 days.  Whew!  He referred me to a general surgeon as he thought it would have to be lanced.  By the time I got to see the general surgeon (3 days later), it had opened on its own.  Only at that time did I experience  unbearable pain.  With each drop of gunk that oozed out, my right leg burned intensely down to my knee.  This pain lasted about one hour.  After that I kept it cleaned out and bandaged for about a week.  It is now starting to heal, but my last appointment with the surgeon informed me that the hard knot underneath the actual bite point will be with me for another two months or so.  Since then I have found numerous brown recluse spiders in my home - both alive and dead.  Today I had a professional to dust, fog, and spray my crawl space, my living space, and my attic space in my home.  He said I have a bad infestation of them.  He did tell me that I cannot get rid of all of them as I live in KY where they are prevalent, but I can control them.  I will always have a lingering fear of those creatures for the rest of my life.  I never was afraid of spiders before my bite.  I hope this helps you some.
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The brown recluse spider is a venomous spider of the family Sicariidae (formerly of the family Loxoscelidae) and the genus and species Loxosceles reclusa. It is usually between 1/4 and 3/4 inch (6.4-19.1mm) but may grow larger. It is brown and usually has markings on the dorsal side of its thorax, with a black line coming from it that looks like a violin with the neck of the violin pointing to the rear of the spider resulting in the nickname "fiddleback spider" or "violin spider". Coloring varies from light tan to brown and the violin marking may not be visible.\n\nFor more information and pictures visit the link below.
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There are black widow spiders in southern Ontario.  Most of Canada is too cold for them.  \n\nThe brown recluse spider whose bite is quite bad,  is also found in Canada.  Some kind of spider can be found pretty much everywhere in Canada.  \n\nI hope this helps.
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Myth: Spiders can lay their eggs under human skin in wounds created by their bites.\n\nFact: In a surprisingly widespread urban legend, a nameless woman is bitten by a spider (usually on her cheek) while on vacation. She later develops a swelling, from which, in due course, baby spiders emerge! Somehow or other, the venom must have transformed into eggs. Spiders, need I say, do not find the human body a suitable site for egglaying, and no actual case anything like this can be found anywhere in scientific or medical literature.\n\nThat is, unless you count as scientific literature the book Dancing Naked in the Mind Field by Nobel Prize chemist Kary Mullis. In one chapter, Mullis claims to have been bitten by a brown recluse spider in California (where no such spiders exist), that other spiders came back to feed on the resulting wound, and that female brown recluses feed their babies from such wounds. All this is sheer fantasy. As the name implies, real recluse spiders avoid humans like the plague if at all possible
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Whether you believe it or not, THE DADDY-LONG LEGS. It's venom is 10x more potent then the black widow or the brown recluse.  Why don't we think so?  Because it's mouth is to small to bite humans.  IT'S TRUE.
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More imformation would deffinently help. It is pretty much impossible to tell from the info you gave. What do you mean octagon spider? Does that refer to the web? Some helpful info would be the color, size, and shape of the spider, the shape, size, and location of the web, and where you found the spider (state, country, ect.). Any other information would also help. \n\nAnother thing to consider is that all spiders (other than a small, rare family) have venom. It is unlikely that they are very harmful, but again, I would need more information to say that for sure. Try a field guide (library is a good place to look) and see if you can find what kind it is, then research that one. If you want, post some more info here, and I will try to find it.
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Well if it was similar in appearance to a black widow it is most likely in the same family (Theriididae) they are actually a very common family throughout the world. Many juvenile and male widows are colored in this manner, typically mottled, with red, yellow and black markings. It is possible that the spider you saw is in fact a widow (Latrodectus spp.).\nWhen young spiders are present, there is no real danger, they are not aggressive and can actually be handled without danger, but if the species in question is new to you, just handle it like you did, that was the best way to handle the situation.\nIf in fact the nest belonged to that spider, then it is most likely not a true widow, becasue in that area, the adults are the typical black with red hourglass, so then there would be no need to worry.\n\nhere are some images of young widows to compare it to\nhttp://bugguide.net/node/view/80826\nhttp://bugguide.net/node/view/73801\nhttp://bugguide.net/node/view/26128\nhttp://bugguide.net/node/view/13097\n\n\n\nhope this helps!
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I doubt it is a Brown recluse. They kill other spiders. They kill eachother. Thats why they are reclusive.\n\n Just get a man to spray your house. You'll be ok.\n\nBacon & Salt?  hmmmmm. I have used  Potato peels.\n\nThey work good.\n\n\n.
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First, you want to SCRAPE out the stinger, not squeeze it. This prevents "pumping" in the venom into your skin. Then make a thick paste out of baking soda and water and apply to the sting site. You may want to take Advil or Tylenol and use an ice pack for swelling.
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Black Widow Spider\nThey spin irregular webs in crevices and other dark, protected spots.The female's bite, poisonous to humans, is followed by local pain and swelling, nausea, and difficulty in breathing and is sometimes fatal. \n\nBrown Recluse Spider\nIt spins a sheet web that may be found in secluded areas among rocks or in houses. The bite causes a long-lasting sore that involves tissue death, and severe reactions to it may become life-threatening.\n\nCrab Spider\n Crab spiders do not spin webs to trap prey, but hunt on the open ground or on vegetation or flowers. In this, they resemble other free-living spiders such as jumping spiders and wolf spiders.\n\nGo to my source 4 pics
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A few kinds of spiders are harmful to human beings. In North America, six kinds of spiders harm people, they are - the Brown Recluse, Sac, Black Widow, Brown Widow, Red-legged Widow and the Varied Widow. \n\nWater spiders are the only spiders that live most of their life underwater. The water spider breathes underwater from air bubbles that it holds close to its body. Its underwater nest is a silk web shaped like a small bell. The spider fills the web with air bubbles, which gradually push all the water out of the bell. The animal can live on this air for several months. Water spiders are found only in Europe and parts of Asia.
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Look for the spider bite, and go to the Doctor.
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If you're worried about it being a brown recluse I can assure you that it is not. It looks like one of the hundreds of hundreds of types of house spiders.  I have no idea what specific type it is though. Can't help you on that.
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Any fluid that will keep the air out but which won't corrode the specimen.\n\nStrong alcohol such as vodka is good or perhaps something like methylated spirits or while spirit. Avoid household bleach or vinegar as they're likely to be too corrosive.\n\nAs spiders have a hard external skeleton, it is also possible to preserve them by drying them out... you often see this in butterfly collections. Just use a long stainless steel pin and pin the body of the spider to a small piece of wood or thick cardboard. Place the specimen in somewhere warm, dark and dry for a couple of weeks. Don't cover it in anything that will keep moisture in or it will rot. The specimen will then be perfectly preserved (but very brittle - so take care!)
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It wasn't a black widow spider which are poisonous.They are dark black and shiny not hairy with white stripes on the leg. They have a red hour glass shape on the belly.I believe it might be just an ordinary jumping spider found in most homes non poisonous.
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Bite me................ Or bite you \n\ncause thats what the spider will do
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The "rex" (as they are called) does live in parts of California.  I was bit by one and had to have skin removed because it was necrotic.  You can also have sores from sugar issues but these are usually on the legs and feet.  If you have the means, try to contact a spider bite clinic or look online for places that deal specifically with spider and snake bites.  These clinics usually have doctors that are trained in both specialties and they may be able to help you more than a regular ER doc.  From what I read, the female is more potent than the male and can live longer under harsher conditions.  If you still had venom in your system then I would be seeking help from a lawyer because if they treated you and misdiagnosed you - then gave you false information, they are liable.\n\nGood luck!  If you get a chance, let me know how this works out.  I know how much a bite can hurt ...