If Jesus filled the prophesies for the Messiah, what were they?
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Ha, what a pile of garbage. True the messiah was supposed to be a descendent of king David but that decent is patrilineal (from father to son) Mathew in the first part even shows how jesus was this though his father Josef. But wait. I thought that Jesus was the son of G-d so he cant be a descendant of king David. Strike one. They shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more." Isaiah 2:4. This is Isaiah’s prediction of what the messiah supposed to do. Basically world peace look around you. Strike two. The messiah was also supposed to restore the temple in Jerusalem and gather the Jews back to Israel. The temple still has not been built and more than ½ of Jews today don’t live in Israel. Strike three. Jesus is out of there.\nThe truth is Jesus did not fulfill ANY of the requirements to be the messiah. And NO WHERE dose it say any in the writings before Jesus thing about someone coming to cleanse sin or getting a second chance at it latter. (if you want the bible quotes to support the rest of my augment email me at Gratvol@yahoo.com)\n\n\n\noh and dcomputerman if all you needed to be was the son of a woman descendant of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and from the tribe of Judah line of King David I have just a good chance of being the Messiah as Jesus did.
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Christian Prophecy - Seeking the Jewish Messiah\nChristian prophecy is really Jewish prophecy. I'm a Jew, and here's how I discovered that incredible truth… \n\nI grew up in an orthodox Jewish home in New York, and several years ago I came to believe that Jesus (Yeshua is the Hebrew way to say the Greek name Jesus) is truly the Jewish Messiah. Believing that Yeshua is the Messiah wasn't easy. I had many, many questions, and I spent months examining the evidences and seeking G-d's answers. During my journey, I constantly reminded myself of a very important verse from the Jewish Scriptures (the Tenach). The Jewish prophet Jeremiah records the words of G-d, "And ye shall seek me, and find [me], when ye shall search for me with all your heart. (Jeremiah 29:13) \n\nThe Jewish Scriptures (The Torah, The Prophets, and The Writings, which make up the Tenach or the Jewish Bible) paint a very clear picture of who the Moshiach (Messiah) will be when He eventually comes to the nation of Israel. In fact, there are over 300 prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures, which detail many facts about this coming Messiah/king. Here is just a sampling (and remember, all these verses come from the Jewish Bible): \n\nMessiah was to be born at Bethlehem: Micah 5:1.\nMessiah would be from the tribe of Judah: Genesis 49:10. \nMessiah would present himself by riding on an ass: Zechariah 9:9. \nMessiah would be tortured to death: Psalm 22. \nMessiah would arrive before the destruction of the Second Temple: Daniel 9:24-27. \nMessiah's life would match a particular description, including suffering, silence at his arrest and trial, death and burial in a rich man's tomb, and resurrection: Isaiah 52:13-53:12. \n\n\nChristian Prophecy - Fulfilled in the Jewish Messiah\nChristian prophecy is remarkably specific. In detail as to lineage, birthplace, time and lifestyle, Jesus matched the Messianic expectations of the Hebrew Scriptures. The record of this fulfillment is to be found in the pages of the New Testament. As you review the more extensive list of Jewish Messianic prophecies, allow G-d to speak to your heart and your mind as you seek HIS truth. \n\nInterestingly, the Jewish Scriptures paint seemingly two different pictures about the Messiah to come. For one, they talk about the Messiah who will come as the reigning King, who will usher in a period of unprecedented peace on earth. But many verses talk about the Moshiach who will be a suffering servant, who will suffer and die for the sins of the people. For many hundreds of years the rabbis believed that there would be two Messiahs, the King Moshiach ben David, and the suffering servant Moshiach Ben Joseph. The rabbis, unfortunately, were not able to see that one Messiah would accomplish both missions. \n\nChristian Prophecy - The Jewish Messiah Stands at the Door and Knocks\nChristian prophecy was indeed fulfilled in the Jewish Messiah. Yeshua came to the "lost sheep of the House of Israel" 2000 years ago. He came as Isaiah chapter 53 so clearly states, to die and "suffer" for the sins of the Jewish people. He came to the nation of Israel, but was rejected. If the Jews would have accepted His "once for all" atonement for sins, Yeshua would have ushered in the Kingdom of Heaven at that point in history. But the Jews did not recognize Him. Even though they had the Word of G-d in their own Scriptures, and more than 300 descriptions of who He would be when He comes, they missed Him. As a result, the Good News of God's Kingdom went forth to the Gentile world, and for 2000 years both Jew and Gentile have come together in Moshiach, looking forward to His soon return as reigning King, just as the rabbis have always expected. \n\nAlthough the nation of Jews rejected Yeshua when He came, G-d has always, through the last 2000 years, kept a "remnant" of believing Jews for Himself. I and many thousands of Jews alive today, have received Yeshua as the
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:}\nIsrael was promised that there would always be a seed of the house of David\nThey need it to fulfill prophesy\nThey need him because there is no other name given among men by which we may be saved.
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The messiah will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The messiah is often referred to as "moshiach ben David" (messiah, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments. (Isaiah 11:2-5) He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being. \n\nIt has been said that in every generation, a person is born with the potential to be the messiah. If the time is right for the messianic age within that person's lifetime, then that person will be the messiah. But if that person dies before he completes the mission of the messiah, then that person is not the messiah. \n\nWhen Will the messiah Come? \nThere are a wide variety of opinions on the subject of when the messiah will come. Some of Judaism's greatest minds have cursed those who try to predict the time of the messiahs coming, because errors in such predictions could cause people to lose faith in the messianic idea or in Judaism itself. This actually happened in the 17th century, when Shabbatai Tzvi claimed to be the messiah. When Tzvi converted to Islam under threat of death, many Jews converted with him. Nevertheless, this prohibition has not stopped anyone from speculating about the time when the messiah will come. \n\nAlthough some scholars believed that G-d has set aside a specific date for the coming of the messiah, most authority suggests that the conduct of mankind will determine the time of the messiahs coming. In general, it is believed that the messiah will come in a time when he is most needed (because the world is so sinful), or in a time when he is most deserved (because the world is so good). For example, each of the following has been suggested as the time when the messiah will come: \n\nif Israel repented a single day; \nif Israel observed a single Shabbat properly; \nif Israel observed two Shabbats in a row properly; \nin a generation that is totally innocent or totally guilty; \nin a generation that loses hope; \nin a generation where children are totally disrespectful towards their parents and elders; \nWhat Will the messiah Do? \nBefore the time of the messiah, there shall be war and suffering (Ezekiel 38:16) \n\nThe mesiiah will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles (Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1). He will rebuild the Temple and re-establish its worship (Jeremiah 33:18). He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land (Jeremiah 33:15).
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Jews were not responsible for the death of Jesus, regardless of what Mel Gibson thinks.\n\nJews did not accept Jesus as the messiah because he did not fulfill the prophecies about the messiah. Christianity claims Jesus will finish the prophecies in his second coming, but according to Judaism the messiah will not die before all the prophecies are realized.
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What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he will:\n\nA. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).\n\nB. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).\n\nC. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)\n\nD. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world -- on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).\n\nThe historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled none of these messianic prophecies. \n\n\n According to Jewish sources, the Messiah will be born of human parents and possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a demi-god, nor will he possess supernatural qualities.\n\nThe Messiah must be descended on his father's side from King David (see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1). According to the Christian claim that Jesus was the product of a virgin birth, he had no father -- and thus could not have possibly fulfilled the messianic requirement of being descended on his father's side from King David! \n\n\nThe Messiah will lead the Jewish people to full Torah observance. The Torah states that all mitzvot (commandments) remain binding forever, and anyone coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4)\n\nThroughout the New Testament, Jesus contradicts the Torah and states that its commandments are no longer applicable. (see John 1:45 and 9:16, Acts 3:22 and 7:37)  For example, John 9:14 records that Jesus made a paste in violation of Shabbat, which caused the Pharisees to say (verse 16), "He does not observe Shabbat!"
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There would be no need for Jesus to have his mother give prophecies, the Bible is complete.\n\nRevelation is inspired of God. Who would dare change a word of what God himself has spoken and transmitted through the one who is now the reigning King, Jesus Christ? Certainly, such a person would deserve to lose out in the quest for life and suffer the plagues that must come upon Babylon the Great which is false religion  and upon the whole world.
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Here is a list I have compiled of around 200 Messianic prophecies identifying the Messiah of Israel. http://tinyurl.com/mbqa3\n\nThere are several on this forum who would disagree, however, when you have over 200 available--yeesh, what are the odds!\n_________________________________\n\nGravtol wanted me to get into specifics in regard to Messiah having two comings. I do not have time to give the twelve he is asking for (many people asking questions of me and my 11-year old is ill). But I will try to get things started and maybe others can chime in with other verses or types.\n\nGod set up several types to illustrate Messiah. Two of the greatest are Moses and Joseph. When Moses first came to the children of Israel, they did not recognize him. Rather they proclaimed, "Who made you a judge over us?" However, the second time, he led them out of bondage following great signs and plagues (foreshadow of Revelation).\n\nJoseph, when he first came to his brothers, he was rejected saying, "We will not have this favored of the father be ruler over us" and was thrown into a pit without water (symbol of sheol) then drawn out and sent to Egypt. The second time they see him, he is in glory and he reveals himself to them and rescues them from death. I go into some detail with this type in my study here... http://tinyurl.com/nchkw\n\nThis "first" and "second" coming types were illuded to by Stephen when he was speaking to the synagogue of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians in Acts 6.\n\nAnother example is in Isaiah 61. Jesus quoted it in the synagogue early on in His ministry. \n\nIsaiah 61:1-2 \n"The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners, to proclaim the year of the LORD’s favor and the day of vengeance of our God…’" \n\nJesus quoted this verse concerning Himself, but He didn’t quote the entire verse. Jesus knew exactly what part of the verse related to His first coming, and what part related to His second. And so we read in Luke 4:18-20 and He read from the scroll, but stopped mid sentence after saying that He was proclaiming the year of the Lord’s favour and then He ‘rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him, and he began by saying to them, “Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”\n\nThe ‘year of the Lord’s favour’ related to Jesus’ first coming. Jesus didn’t read the last part of this same verse in Isaiah 61 because the ‘day of vengeance of our God’ relates to His second coming.\n\nThen there is the timeline prophecy in Daniel http://tinyurl.com/hhmjt where it gives the date when Messiah was to come and die for a capitol crime (but not for Himself). Then at the end of the timeline, we see what is described as Jacob's trouble which is detailed in the Book of Revelation. But we have a promise that the Jews at that time will be rescued in Jeremiah 30:7.\n\n"Alas! For that day is great, so that none is like it; and it is the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it."\n\nThis saving will be done by Christ Himself, for it is prophesied in Isaiah 63 that He will go in to Bozrah where the Jews have fled persecution and will dye His vesture with the blood of His enemies who come against them.\n\nHere is a good newsletter on the subject...\nhttp://www.moriel.org/sermons/PDF/dec_98.pdf
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First we are not in the tribulation period and Matthew 24 doesnt have anything to do with us [as it is about the trib. period], but other then that here is a good prophecy link on some fullfillments and other future things to come:\n\nprophecy: http://www.livingwaters.com/Merchant2/graphics/tracts/prophecy/index.html \nthe gospel: http://www.needGod.com do you know what it is? think again. it might surprise you.
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It won't be easy understanding Revelations without taking account of the rest of the Bible.  There are many prophecies in the other books of the Bible that tie in to Revelations.  Isaiah has plenty.  \n\nBut the most revealing ones of all, i.e, the most direct and descriptive, are Jesus' own predictions of the end times.  He mentioned this several times in Matthew, Mark, and Luke.\n\nMany of the prophecies written in the books other than Revelations actually explain what Revelations truly meant because some prophecies in the previous books are repeated in Revelations.\n\nGo to www.biblegateway.com for a free, online bible.
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NOT SURE WHOM YOU ARE REFERRING TO, IF IT IS JESUS STEPFATHER THIS IS WERE HE SETTLED:\n\nToward the close of the first century B.C.E., in fulfillment of prophecy, the promised Messiah, Jesus, was born at Bethlehem in Judea. (Mt 2:3-6; Lu 2:10, 11) After the visit of some Oriental astrologers, Jesus’ adoptive father Joseph, having been alerted by an angel in a dream concerning Herod the Great’s intent to destroy the child, fled with his family to Egypt. Following Herod’s death Joseph did not return to Judea but settled at Nazareth in Galilee. This was because Herod’s son Archelaus then ruled over Judea and also on account of the divine warning given to Joseph in a dream.—Mt 2:7-23.
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Jesus could come back at any moment now.  Are you ready?\n\n\nhttp://www.biblebelievers.com/SimpleSalvation.html
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Anything Biblical...\nMary, Martha, Michael, Malachi...
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The answer is in verse one.\n\n"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things that he saw."
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I would have a few glasses of wine with Jesus Christ and ask him if he was a) the son of God or just a prophet b) if he was the son of God, did he realise all the crap that would unfold to do with religion over the next 2,000 years and c) if he did know, then was it really all worth it.
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its all metaphors. Jesus used metaphors so dont look for literal meanings
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Yes he is the messiah, there is a book called "A Case for Christ". That book can, if read with an open mind, persuade most people that He really is the Messiah. He fullfilled every single prophecy there was for the Messiah! Every single one that was written hundreds or maybe even thousands of years before he was even born! The chances of one person fullfilling every prophecy, which is in that book, is almost nonexistent.