What are Seven day adventist going to be saved from? They don't believe in the rapture then where are they....
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rapture is a big hope for every christian, but there are people who think it won't be there. I had issues with people who thought otherwise. But when I come to think more of it. They are ready to go through more suffering for the cause of christ and even die for his sakes and they only consider it a great thing to die for the Lord. And as I read yesterday from Spurgeon. He said that if we have a difference with someone or another sect we should both place our beliefs on the altar and see which one God approves. Unless each party is ready to submit their thoughts and knowledge to God and ready for some amount of humbling the truth can't be easily spread!
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They are lost, and need to be saved.People act like they are going to live on earth forever. Its coming a time that everyone will die (unless) Jesus comes back first. There is a place called heaven, and a place called hell. Everyone will spend eternity in one of the two places. The devil has them blind, and fooled. I pray people will wake up, and be saved, while they still have a chance.
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Today's popular Christianity is false Christianity, and so I expect a very great many to fall away when things start going bad.\n\nEspecially when that rapture crap turns out to be just that.
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those who are left behind will be standing around wondering what happened.  God will rapture Christians to heaven and begin judgment on earth for anyone left behind [regardless of their religion] ,because those who had a personal relationship with God through Christ Jesus are all gone [went to heaven with Christ]. \n\nWant to go to heaven? http://www.NeedGod.com
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The word rapture is not in the bible and I do not use it because it is not possible to know the true meaning of it.\n\nJohn 6:39,40,44,54-58[raised up]; Acts 1:11[Jesus taken up];\n1Thes.4:15-17[the dead in Christ shall rise first,they which are alive are caught up];\n\nRev,6:9-11[they are up at different times, so thousands can still be understood to be caught up];\n\nMatt.27:52[the dead in the graves arose]; John 5:26-29[they in the graves shall hear his voice and come forth];\n\nDan.12:2[many of then that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake];\n\nRev.20:1-6,12,13; Heb.9:27; 2Cor.5:10; Those coming forth to the judgement day of before the redeemed priest of God and Christ that are of [heavenly or new heavenly Jerusalem]  first resurrection, all other are of second resurrection for the new earth.\n\nI do not see a rapture situation in the bible. Millions and billions do not go to new heavenly Jerusalem. Thousand go in the first resurrection and billions \nwill inhabit the new earth Matt.19:28[Eze.37:12-14; the 12 tribes return to their own land Isa.66:1,22; God will always have his footstool earth occupied Isa.45:18;
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It is interesting how people with no understanding of Bible prophecy try to explain the book of Revelation. One person said that the church will be raptured prior to the time of the antichrist, How does he explain these verses in\n2 Thessalonians 2:1-4?\n\nNow we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: FOR THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME, EXCEPT THERE COME A FALLING AWAY FIRST, AND THAT MAN OF SIN BE REVEALED, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God\n\nNotice the timing of the rapture. Even a child would understand that the man of sin must first be revealed, then the rapture takes place.\n\nIn addition, the mark of the beast issue is about worship not ID numbers. The beast in Revelation 13 wants our worship, our obedience. He wants to be as God. ID cards or chips have nothing to do with worship or obedience. In fact, there is nothing religious about them. They are purely secular in nature, having much more to do with security. The real issue is over allegiance to God and His law, versus allegiance to Satan and his law.\n\nThe booklet, The Beast, the Dragon, and the Woman explains the issues surrounding the final conflict between Christ and Satan as it relates to God's people and the mark of the beast. It can be found at the following website.\n\nhttp://www.amazingfacts.org/items/Read_Media.asp?ID=668
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I think that someone told them that the rapture already took place and many were troubled because of it. I think some one name..... Anyways I'm going to read it, Its been awhile I'm remembering Demetri\n\nOh! and ah good (Q) you obviously stomped some folk
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im glad you asked that. this is going to take a while but ill try and give you a short version to prove by the bible that this is in fact the days just before the tribulation. the most important thing to remeber is scripture interprates scripture in other words you can find answers to questions thru out all the 66 books of the bible. here is 3 key points to prove this is those days. lets look at the 1st key point in 2 thessalonians 2:1-12. verse 3 says let no man deciev you by any means FOR THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME EXCEPT THERE COME A FALLING AWAY FIRST, and that man of sin the wicked one be revealed, the son of perdition. (or anti-christ). what that verse said is the anti-christ cannot be revealed untill a falling away happens. whats a falling away? some say that is a rapture i kinda agree with that but i think the falling away is the gradual decline of true christians. think back 60 years ago churches were packed our church just 25 years ago had on average 125 people every sunday morning now it does good to get 30 weve lost 95 people in 25 years and our church isnt the only one churches all over are that way there is few exceptions but for the most part that is the norm we are dealling with the hole here. christianity keeps declining in numbers eventually God will have no option but to send christ to rapture the church. the thing that is not noticed here is while true christians are on the decline satan is on the incline the holy spirit is what is keeping satan at bay now but as the holy spirit goes away satan encounters less resistance so finally when the church is raptured then satan or the anti-christ will have free run of the world. now look at society today all over the world am i right in this observation. just watch the news all the murders child abuse immorality its there people be honest. 2nd thing there has to be a nation of isreal. ezekiel 37:1-28 talks about a rebirth of a nation (isreal) prior to may 1948 there was no nation of isreal some people think every generation is the terminal generation if theyd study the bible they see prior to 1948 that there was going to be no return of Christ the bible says so dont argue me argue the bible if ya dont believe it but thats what it clearly says. now God has refered to isreal as the fig tree several times in the bible look at Hosea 9:10 and Joel 1:1-9. now lets look at Mathew 24:32-34 it says now learn the parable of the fig tree(isreal) when his branch is yet tender and putteth forth leaves ye know summer is nigh so like wise ye when ye shall see all things know that it is near even at the doors verily i say unto you this generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled. now look at isreal its only 58 years old and one of the stongest nations in the world id say that they are its putting for leaves while its branches are yet tender (or young). thats the 2nd key point and now the last one the 3rd point. the revived roman empire. in daniel chapter 2 verses 31 thru 45 daniel is descibing a dream this dream was a statue head of gold breast and arms of silver his belly and thighs of brass his legs of iron and his feet part of iron and part of clay. now we will use world history to reveal this image daniel told nebuchandnezzar he was the head of gold the Babylonian empire then there would be one after him the arms and breast of silver is the medo-persian empire and the third kingdom belly and thighs of brass is the greecian empire now here is the key part for our times the legs of iron was the next kingdom can ya guess who it was? the roman empire the legs of iron. now lets look at the feet of iron and clay the feet have iron in it so part of i has to be rome in some form but the clay shows its the same as it was somethings different about this roman empire. look at the european union. i got a map of the roman empire in all its glory all the territory it had all europe middle east parts of africa, then i got a map of europe to day with all the nations and i colore
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I use to believe in the pre-trib rapture. several questions that kept grabbing my heart. \n1-Matt24:22- and except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved, but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.\n Matt24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders,insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.\nIf we are to be raptured before tribulation, then who are the elect and very elect that Jesus is talking about. If it is the Jews and God calls them the elect and the very elect, then why should , who fall beneath, the catagory of elect be taken out?\n2-1 Co. 15:52-In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.\nIf  the rapture occurs before tribulation, then how can it be at\n the last trump, if there are seven trumpets that sound during tribulation?\n2 Thes2:1-4 which is too long to write- but it tells us that we won't be gathered unto  HIm until we see, first, a falling away ( falling away, not gathering up ) , the antichrist is revealed, and we see him sitting in the temple.\n3 -Rev7:9 After this I beheld, and ,lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues,stood before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palms in their hands. Rev 7:14 And i ssaaid unto him, Sir thou knowest. And he said to me, these are they which came our of great tribulation and have wshed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.\n  How can this verse be used for the pre trib rapture, if they  aare to come out oof   great tribulation. Don't you have to be in something, in order to come out of it.\n There is much more. Keep on hunting.
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well for starters the so called rapture is a non event ,it will never happen.and nobody  knows what hell is like,those books that you are quoting are just fiction because if they were real then they would be the first to go and come back to talk about it,,please dont be fooled they just want to sell books.
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The Seventh Day Adventists are members of the sectarian movement.  It is a side effect of being sectarian of being especially anti-Catholic.  They hold a number of myths to be true that have no basis in historical fact.  They are anit-Catholic because they inherited the idea and are more extreme because they are more extreme than their predecessor belief group.\n\nIt is important to understand that they believe themselves to be the correct group of Christians.  All others are wrong and Catholics especially as they see Catholicism as the source of all other Protestant errors.
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The whole getting saved during the tribulation thing is set in stone, but it is no stone any human has ever seen. It all depends on what God's plan is. Ask Him. He know everything. Don't be afraid to wait a seemingly unending amount of time to get an answer. You might get none. Still, that is no reason to stop believing.
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OK this could be a long one...but... In revelations the last book of the bible it talks about Jesus coming back from heaven to collect his church also know as the rapture or second coming...When he does this the Antichrist who is going to pretend to be a "christ" or savior is going to try to dominate the world and probably succeed.  This antichrist is also known as a dragon, lion and beast.  That is where the name comes from...now the rapture hasnt happend yet and Christian all over the world speculate every day what could this be.  Well seeing the future isnt exactly what humans are meant to do or for anyone to beable to do for that matter of a fact.  Many think that it will be  microchip with a tatoo over it or something of that sort.  There are books that talk about this time and they are fiction such as the Left Behind Series and there are other non fiction book on this topic but, I would definately look up revelations and read about it.  It only talks about it for a very brief time, but i wouldnt wory about it for now because that isnt the thing preventing you from going to heavan at this time the only thing stopping you is having a personal relationship with Christ and accepting his eternal gift of life.  Hope that answers your question and oh yeah if thousands upon millions of us disappear you might want to start worrying about it and checking out being a Christian but dont wait..cause no one knows how or when its going to happen except God himself...dont miss out!
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The Rapture is a term most commonly used to describe an event in certain systems of Christian eschatology (study of the end times) whereby all Saved Christians are taken from Earth by God into Heaven. Although almost all forms of Christianity believe that those who are "saved" will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, the term "rapture" is usually applied specifically to those theories saying that Christians alive before the end of the world will be taken into heaven, and there will be an intermediate time frame where non-Christians will be still left on earth before Christ arrives to set up his earthly kingdom.\n\nFor a detailed answer see the link below.
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If the time of the rapture is unknown, then obviously it cannot be tomorrow, can it? We are not in the tribulation. There is great illogic in the post-trib scenario. If the tribulation started tomorrow, then I could count the days of the tribulation, and be pretty sure when it will occur, right? THEN I could be ready for His coming. Remember the unjust servant, "looks like the master is not due for a long time." That servant was treated harshly for not being ready for the master's return.\n\nThere is plenty of evidence. Don't be confused by "the last trump" being the seventh trumpet blast in Revelation. There is no basis to assume that. "The Last Trump" is a title for the Feast of Trumpets that takes place in September/October. Also do not be confused by the rapture and the second coming of Christ. They are two things. One is for His church, the other is to save Israel from her enemies. The rapture in Revelation takes place when the church enters the door to heaven as the 24 elders at the beginning of chapter 4 before the tribulation even begins.\n\nHere is the timeline.\nhttp://tinyurl.com/hhmjt
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The only Church which God is going to rapture out from this earth before the Tribulation Period is his own true Church; which includes only those who have been washed in the blood of Jesus Christ, and cleanse from their sins by such. It is not going to be those who have worked real hard to try and please God; even though I am sure that it will include some of these. But the only ones who can look forward to the rapture before the Great Tribulation are those who have truly believed upon Jesus Christ, and received Him into their hearts by faith. These are the ones who truly make up the Church of God.
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Firstly, The Rapture is a realatively modern interpretation of the book of Revelation, which has not been accepted by most of the Orthodox Churches in the World.  It is an idea known as Dispensational Premillenialism.  Most Orthodox Churches do not believe in this idea.  They believe rather in Amillenialism.  This means that there will not be a rapture, and rather takes the whole book of Revelation more holistically.  This idea believes that there is an end, and it is really the end, not a rapture.  There will be no period of tribulation or any of that baloney.  Just an end.  \n\nSecondly you need to understand biblical numerology.  THe book of revelation is a "apocalyptic" book, which is a style of literature that existed in the ancient times.  Apacalyptic literature used numbers to symbolize things.  (other good examples in the bible would be the last nine chapters of ezekiel or the book of daniel).  the Number 144,000 is simply put 12 (the number of the tribes of the Old Testament, or the OT believers) times 12 (the number of the apostles, or NT believers) times 10 times 10 times 10 (one of the "complete" numbers).  one multiplies by ten three times do symbolize the Holy Trinity, where in all the believers in the Old and New Testaments will be saved.  \n\nYes it refers to them as the "twelve tribes of Israel" but what is meant (as we are in apocalyptic literature as stated before) is the Church, not the literal twelve tribes.\n\nThe only people who really take the number 144,000 literally are the Jehovah's Witnesses, who are not even really Christians, but instead Arians, but that is a different question.