Has anyone ever read The Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Your Thoughts?
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It is a forgery. Propaganda designed by the writers to prejudice the reader against Jewish people.
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Query - have any of you read the book, or looked at the plan? It's clever, not perfect but at least it's something more than Sally Struthers standing there teary-eyed and saying "think of the children!"\n\nI'm inclined to think this plan is worth a shot. Yes, it'd be nice if Bono and Jolie would put their money where their mouths are, but it seems a far better use of tax dollars spent on foreign aid to render it through programs that actually do something rather than funnel it through dubious government entities that allow a great deal of siphoning off the top by corrupt leaders.\n\nOr we could just allow Malthusian processes to take care of it through war, famine and pestilence. Not that these don't impact us. Famine drives up the prices of crops. Pestilence, well, we now have HIV which may have been caught and contained far sooner if there was a public health infrastructure in place, and hemorrhagic fevers native to many of these regions are the stuff of nightmares. Then there's war, but I don't think I need to remind you how many situations the military has gotten into after the humanitarian portion of the mission collapsed. I think it's simply cheaper in the long-run to try to ameliorate poverty rather than deal with it's aftermath, but it's as much your tax money as it is mine, so we'll see the exit polls.
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I just asked a question about the Montauk Project myself.I read the books.They seem to be very technically correct about a lot of the  things they talk about.So who-ever wrote them wasn't an idiot or a nut making up a story. I believe that the things spoken of in the stories are more than likely possible.Whether or not they actually happened as it is written,or if we really do possess this secret technoIogy, I don't know.In a way though,I kind of hope it isn't completely true,because the story of these projects are filled with abuse and inhuman treatment of human beings in the name of scientific developement and whatever else.
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Your comment has merit. The heavy handed approach, seems to do little more than spawn new generations of anti-Israel kids. To call them Nazi-like will earn you score and reproach. I would simply say that their approach does not seem to be working.
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I not only read it, I truly believe it is the truth and that God really did converse with Mr. Walsch.  That book answered so many of my own questions.  \nIt brought me incredible peace with my religious beliefs.\nI think the most important thing I learned was that you are perfect at all times.  However you are today is the way God wants you to be today.
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Yes it's very interesting. I've heard different versions of this. What's actually a good read and goes into some detail about this stuff is "the bible code II".\n\nif you place yourself back in biblical times and saw a ufo how would you describe it? "it came from the heavens"\n\nif the occupants came out how would you describe them? "gods"\n\nif they showed you something as simple as a cigarete lighter what would you say? "they can perform miracles, creating fire from their hands"\n\nthere are many references in the bible that describe things that can be interpreted as aliens.\n\nso i wouldn't say there is no evidence like a poster mentioned here. check out the link i am providing that seems to show that we have been visited throughout recorded history...
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I found the language of the show to be quite interesting. Fore instance, during the first half of the show, they kept asking the question: "Is it real?" This isn't really what they meant, what they meant was "Is it old?" To me, they were implying that "real" = "true".\n\nThey also did not mention several Gnostic beliefs that would have discredited the movement in many people's eyes. You remember the scene at the last supper when they talked about Jesus laughing because the disciples were worshipping the wrong God, that the God who created the universe was actually an inferior God that was not worthy to be worshipped. What they didn't say was that Gnostics believed that this was the God of the Old Testament, so they ignored the Old Testament.\n\nAnother thing that stuck out to me was the phrase "When Jesus appeared on the Earth." Because they believed that the material world was evil, they had what is known as a Docetic view of Jesus. That is, that Jesus only appeared to be human, because God would have never become human and contaminated himself with the material world.\n\nI strongly agree with the speaker at the end who said that the Gospel of Judas provides valuable historical information about the history of Christianity and the movements within it. It shows us that there was never one single Christianity being practiced.  People have beein arguing about who Jesus was since a few minutes after he died.  With that being said, I do not personally believe it provides a historically accurate picture of the characters of Jesus and Judas.\n\nFinally, they seemed to think the fact that there were many Christianities unique. I have to disagree with that. There are many different versions of the Christian faith today, with different holy texts, etc. The book of Mormon is a prime example.\n\nIf you read the other Gnostic texts, you will find they have a lot in common with the Gospel of Judas.  For instance, both the Gospel of Judas and the Gospel of Thomas elevate one of the Disciples above the others.  The Gospel of Mary Magdalene does the same thing for Mary.  None of the four canonical gospels does this for their author.\n\nAnother thing that absolutely amazes me is that we have 4 gospels that tell very similar stories.  There are some minor differences in the order of events or the events included, but they are consistant for the most part.  One new gospel is found that offers a different story and many people jump on that and say, "Wow!  This is the real story."  It just doesn't make any sense.
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I don't like the fact that some people are reading it as fact when it is fiction. The man who wrote it(Dan Brown) was charged with plagiarism. I haven't cracked the book but know someone who is reading it but aren't taken in by it's lies. I find it just as abusurd as the supposed "book of judas."  \n\nHere is one of the lies of this book and the truthfull answers to it.\n\nThe Da Vince Code says...\nIn 325 the council of Nicea decided by vote to make Jesus divine. "Until that moment in history, Jesus was viewed by His followers as a mortal prophet." It was a close vote at that.  P.233\n\nFACT:\nThe council, of which we have the historical writings and decisions, had mothing to do with the divinity of Jesus. They were didscssuin Arius, who had begun teaching that Jesus was not eternally co-existent with the father but was divine, The discussion was around whether Jesus was eternally co-existant with the father not wherether Jesus was divine. The close vote.... was almost 300  to  2. WE WOULD call that a landslide in today's English. Consider these Verses.\n\nMatt 16:16  Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son fo the living God" NKJV\n\nMark 15:39  So when the centurion, who stood oppostie Him, saw that He cried out like this and breathed His last, he said,"Truly this Man was the Son of God!"\n\nLuke 4:41   And demons also came out of many, crying out and saying. "You are the Christ, the Son of God!?\n\nJohn 10:33  The Jews answered Him, saying, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God."\n\nJohn 20:28  And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"\n\nThe Da Vinci Code says...\nThe church demonized the sacred feminine and the goddess by reaching teh concept of original sin, "whereby Eve tasted the apple and caused the downfall of the human race." P238\n\nFACT:\nThe Bible actually blames Adam much more that Eve and nowhere does the Bible mention an apple, merely fruit.\n\n! Cor 15:21-22  For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.  22.  For as in Adam all\ndie, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.\n\nRom 5:12 Therefore, just through one man sin intered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned-\n\nSo if they read the Bible they will see that the Da Vince Code is a joke. The fact that it is a novel: n. a fictious prose narritive of considerable length... fictious: adj. \n1. created or assumed for the sake of concealment; false.\n2. of or consisting of fiction; created by the imagination.\n\nThese definitons came from Websters Dictionary not something I made up.
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Yes, I read it and found it very interesting.  The reader should keep in mind, though, that the author does not claim to be anything but human, that is, he does not claim to be God made manifest in a human form like Moses, Jesus Christ, Mohammed, The Bab, and Baha'u'llah.  Therefore, his interpretation of what God is revealing to him is subject to error.  Only the Manifestations of God are perfect and flawless.  Even the highest saint is still human and subject to error.\n\nwww.bahai.org
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Yes! i have read it, its very much like the Kings James version.
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It's a great book, one which inspired the American Revolution (repudiated the Divine right of kings to rule without consent of the governed).\n\nAlso, to do good with all one's wisdom and strength is the highest religion.  And the doctrine of a savior is unjust: no honest man can accept another's dying for him.\n\nThese were (and are) revolutionary concepts which helped change the history of our early republic.
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Why don't Jews read THE PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ZION?\nGeeeeeez, what turnip truck did you fall off of?
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yea i read them a while ago and thought they were interesting.his book"what god wants" is also good,because the answer he gives which is "nothing" is true.how could god want anything-god is complete already.\nif you found those books interesting you would probably like eckhart tolle's books too."the power of now "and his latest one "a new earth."
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This was a very enjoyable book, I first read it about 15 years ago.  It is semi-autobiographical in that the author is a pilot and the narrator of the book is a pilot who meets a man with an interesting insight into the human condition and who appears to be a messiah.\n\nThe book is full of memorable lines and makes the reader contemplate life and why we are here.  I definitely recommend it. \n\nThe following link has a number of quotes from the book.
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"The Jews"? What cretin since the authors of the forged "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and Hitler thinks that "Jews" constitute a unitary entity?\n\nCan the Lutherans handle themselves? The Unitarians? The Greek Orthodox? The Baha'i?
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I try not to think and according to wikipedia its authenticity is questioned, but you got me to learn something new, thankyou. :)\n\nThe fact that the Zohar was found by one lone individual, Moses de Leon, and that it refers to historical events of the post-Talmudical period, caused the authenticity of the work to be questioned from the outset.
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It was always obnoxious.  The US wouldn't have nearly the international political problems today if it hadn't been for Israel.  It started with supporting Israelis that were throwing grenades in to family homes in order to evict the Palestinians.  For what happened to them in Germany, it seems the future Israelis learned a lot about oppressing other people, herding them off to concentration camps, etc.\n\nI don't recall any information about how the original Israelis were oppressed by the Palestinians of the 1940's or the earlier century.  Was there any?  It seems like it was about the equivalent of anyone trying to get revenge on Mongolia... what's the point?  You're only a few hundred years too late...  Are these even the same people?\n\nOf course, now that we have decades of hate between them, there is plenty of atrocity to go around now, but I find it interesting that Israel plays off their aggression with cries of "holocaust" - particularly when that's what they have done to the Palestinian's - and would do if creating death camps were not frowned upon by the international community.\n\nEven so, a great recipie for eternal religious hatred:\n\n* Take one religion convinced that they are the "chosen" of God and are only special by lineage.\n\n* Take one religion whose faith is open to all, but has over the centuries taken a "convert or die" attitude as well as a strong emphasis on "an eye for an eye."\n\n* Mix together in an environment with some resource sarcity.\n\n* Watch the wars bloom.\n\nGod has an interesting sense of humor.\n\nAs for the specialness of Israel, I believe we could baste the whole country with neutron bombs and the rest of the world would be no worse for wear, just as the US could be wiped and the rest of the world would find some way to go on.  It's the vomitous pompus stupidity that keeps the problems kindling and I have NO respect for such insolence, just as I have no respect for people that kill innocents.\n\nMy guess is that the US keeps funding Israel in order to keep jews fighting muslims to destabilize the region.