historical context of ben fraanklin's quote "they that would give up liberty for safety deserve neither"
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Context as follows: giving up liberty only gives you tyranny it doesn't give you safety.  Benjamin Franklin and his fellow British citizens gave up their liberty to a king so that he would protect them but he really only repressed them, thus the revolution was born.
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"Give me your tired your poor, \nYour huddled masses yearning to breathe free,\nThe wretched refuse of your teeming shore.\nSend these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,\nI lift my lamp beside the golden door!" \n\n(From the Statue Of Liberty)\n\nThe only difference between them and your ancestors is a few hundred years.
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Google refuses too! Their stockholders took a hit today, freedom isn't free.\n\nBenjamin Franklin once said, "Those willing to give up a little liberty for a little security deserve neither security nor liberty."
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It shows you that if we dont remember and learn from the past were going to forget everything we ever fought for.everyone that ever died.. everyone that fought. cuz are freedom wasnt free..... i really like that quote!
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Me? Absolutely none.\n\nThey that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. – Benjamin Franklin\n\nOne of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation. – Thomas B. Reed (1886)\n\nIf you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all. – Jacob Hornberger (1995)\n\nGovernment is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. – George Washington\n\nThe true danger is when Liberty is nibbled away, for expedients. – Edmund Burke (1899)\n\nThe evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it. – John Hay (1872)\n\nThe best government is the one that charges you the least blackmail for leaving you alone. – Thomas Rudmose-Brown\n\nI should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it. – Alexis De Toqueville\n\nThe whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed – and hence clamorous to be led to safety – by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. – H.L. Mencken
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When they create a "Homeland Security" department that smacks of "Brown Shirts." When they concentrate on a country that has lots of oil instead of determinedly pursuing the person really responsible for 911. When they erode our freedoms more and more every day. When they illegally wiretap phone calls and track millions of others. When the Vice President has ties to a new string of gas stations.  When the VP has ties to a company like Halliburton.  Whatever happened to conflict of interest?\n\nHere is a quotation mistakenly attributed to Benjamin Franklin, but was actually someone else.  "Those who surrender essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."\n\nThink about it, folks.
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This is a further part of socialist engineering, as I have said many times before we are heading for a totalitarian state  by stealth New Labours favourite tactic. People in the UK should remember Thomas Jefferson's famous words,"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty!"and "The issue to-day is the same as it has been throughout all history,whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite".
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"No man is entitled to enjoy the blessings of freedom unless he is diligent in its preservation."  -- General Douglas MacArthur\n\n"To be prepared for war is the most effective means of preserving peace."  -- General George Washington\n\nTHE SOLDIER\n\nIt is the soldier, not the protestor, that guarantees the right of freedom of speech.\n\nIt is the soldier, not the priest, that guarantees the right of freedom of religion.\n\nIt is the soldier, not the journalist, that guarantees the right of freedom of the press.\n\nIt is the soldier, not the police officer, that guarantees the right of due process of law.\n\nIt is the soldier, not the judge, that guarantees the right to a fair trial.\n\nAnd it is the soldier; the one who salutes the flag, honors the flag, raises the flag at the beginning of the day, lowers the flag at the end of the day, folds the flag, and protects the flag, that gives American citizens the right to burn the flag.\n\nWithout men and women who love freedom so much that they are willing to stand up for it, fight for it, and yes -- even die for it, there is no freedom.\n\nFreedom is not free.  If you are an American and you enjoy your freedom, thank those veterans who preserved it for you in the past and those currently wearing the uniform who protect it for you today.
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One man's fight for his/her rights is terrorism for another. That does not justify attacks like 9/11 but if you pick up any history book, the majority of wars of independence have been won by retaliating against prevailing, strong authorities by covert tactics, at least initially. This includes American independence as well. If you were to consider the British view point at that time, the founding fathers could not have been considered very favorably! Unfortunately, modern day armaments are so destructive that the innocent always suffer, more than at any time in the history of man. While this makes their actions criminal, it does not remove the validity of their demands.
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But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.\n\nThis is directly from the Declaration of Independence. It means those who have the ability to act have the responsibility to act.
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First thing, most people get the quote wrong.\n\nEveryone agrees (pretty much) that temporary or minor sacrifies are not a big deal. Or if you don't, how many are sacrificing their liberties by wearing a seatbelt in the name of security?\n\nThe issue, as many see it, is whether we should sacrifice permanent or essential liberties, in the name of temporary or illusionary security ("...deserve neither liberty nor security").\n\nHow many people actually believe that the airport security would stop a determined intelligent hijacker, other than by shear luck? But it makes most people feel better, so we give up those liberties in the name of illusionary security.\n\nAccording to some current polls, the majority of US citizens agree that we should allow the government to eavesdrop on anything they want, all in the name of security against terrorists. But how many really believe that out of the 300 million people in the US, and nobody knows how many billions of phone calls and emails per day, that the 6 people actually plotting the next terrorist attack (I'm guessing, no I don't have firsthand knowledge) will be caught?\n\nWould we all be safer if police could just grab anyone at any time and search them? Or if all weapons were illegal? Or if all phone calls had to be pre-approved and were always monitored, thus limiting each person to 1-2 calls per day? Or if people had to have federally approved licenses to check out books from the library, and the government could decide who was allowed to read what? Or if everyone had their federal SSN/ID# tattood on their forehead? Probably. But are those sacrifies worth the gains?\n\nIs it worth removing constitutional protections to gain security? Maybe a little. Probable cause, emergency circumstances, other exceptions on an as-needed basis. But there's always a slippery slope. There's always a point where it becomes too much lost for too little gain.\n\nOur country, right now, is figuring out where it thinks the lines should be. And this choice is likely to have a significant impact on us for decades to come.
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No to the first one. A statement widely attributed to Ben Franklin but actually coined by someone else says, "Those who would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety." I may have a word or two wrong, but that's the essence.\n\nYes to the second.  It sort of has echoes of today's world, doesn't it?\n\nFor number three, I would have to rate that about a 7 or 8 because I live way out in the boondocks.  For my daughters who live in a major city, I would have to rate that a 2 or 3.\n\nRadio station, local.  I rarely turn to TV on. Oh, also Yahoo and MSNBC News.
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Full quote:\n\n"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."\n\nFear is a very powerful weapon.  When the people of a community or nation are fearful of an outside force threatening their lives they will give up freedoms for the assurance of safety.  It's always easier to incite fear when the enemy is "not one of us."\n\nAs an example....\n\nSome say this is what George W. Bush did over four years ago after September 11, 2001.  The United States was in shock.  An enemy had entered our country, done great damage to property and killed thousands of people.  Nothing of this magnitude had happened like this since Pearl Harbor.\n\nIn an attempt to cut off any future terrorist attacks the President proposed and Congress passed new laws that made sweeping changes in privacy laws allowing oversight and intrusion hitherto not seen before in the U.S.\n\nGenerally a majority of the American public has supported these limitations.  The danger lies, as Madison pointed out, in making sure that these changes are kept in check.
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"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."--\nThomas Jefferson \n\nYou can't. Being a pacifist will make you a victim. Peace can only be enjoyed after it has been fought, bled, and died for. We can't just be the "nice guy" to the world and expect to be respected or taken seriously. Would you respect someone who just kisses everyone's a*s, even after he has been repeatedly kicked in the balls? I want peace (believe it or not), but not at the expense of our national sovereignty and dignity. Simply bowing to the demands of dictators and terrorists to avoid war isn't peace, that is scarcely better than slavery. I would rather die a free man with a gun in my hands than live for a hundred years by our enemy's permission. \n\nREMEMBER 9/11.\nNEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET.\nPEACE THROUGH VICTORY
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Give me liberty or give death. or atleast let me cause death to those that oppose my liberty
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"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."--\nThomas Jefferson \n\nPeace is won through war, and can only be truly appreciated after it has been fought, bled, and died for. Being a pacifist will make you a victim. We can't just be the "nice guy" to the world and expect to be respected or taken seriously. Would you respect someone who just kisses everyone's a*s, even after he has been repeatedly kicked in the balls? I want peace (believe it or not), but not at the expense of our national sovereignty and dignity. Simply bowing to the demands of dictators and terrorists to avoid war isn't peace, that is scarcely better than slavery. I would rather die a free man with a gun in my hands than live for a hundred years by our enemy's permission. \n\nREMEMBER 9/11\nNEVER FORGIVE! NEVER FORGET!\nPEACE THROUGH VICTORY!
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Interesting. Where did you find the quote?