Do you think Europe is becoming less pro Middle East?
151443
in secret yes, but there are a lot of cowards there so they dont want to be very vocal about it
359791
I think both. I think mostly he has a grand idea about changing the nature of the Middle East so that it's less dangerous to the U.S., but so far he doesn't seem to be succeeding.
65916
When you say middle east then you are referring to countries between Israel and Yemen.\n\nThe only troubled area here is Islrael, Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia.\n\nThese are areas that are under stress since long now.\n\nIt is strange when people ask this question, why do they hate US. In fact they will hate anyone who undermines their existance, and welcome anyone who will provide relief and wishes to settle the argument.\n\nWould'nt you be that way if this world was made a place not worth living for you?\n\nEverything that a human being cherishes in life was taken away from them -in fact these conflicts are now over 30 years old, just imagine the person who was say 4 years of age in 1971, today the same person is what around 40 years of age -all he/she has seen is destruction and war and harrassment and God knows what all. For people like these, this is the world as they know.\n\nA war or an act of terrorism consumes generations, not individuals.\n\nThere will never be a resolution to these, in fact it is not profitable anymore for those to have peace around us -if these are settled something new will come up.\n\nIf we are to make this world a better place then we should be ready to sacrifice and forgive. See through the polictical agendas and personal/corporate greeds.\n\nRemember the christmas song of mid-late 80's 'We are the world". I was a younger at that time and felt moved by the gesture myself.
576504
Europe gets 80% of its oil from the persian gulf countries(arab countries on that gulf +Iran)\n                         +\nUSA is an economic strategic partner of Europe\n                         =\nEurope would never want the USA to fall, but it never wants the USA to control the oil\n                       Therefore\nEurope will do its best to postpone and delay and real solution that allows the USA to control the oil rich nations.Europe want a strong United STates that -in a illitary sense-lives within her borders, never outside.\n\nThe biggest mistake the USA madew was announcinf that it can handle Iraq alone without Europe, the biggest surprise for the USA is that the Iraq copaign got stuck for three years and did cost 2 trillion dollars. The worst turn over was that USA is now accepting Europe as a strategic partner in handling the Iran crisis. The next step would propably be very much in favor of europe, and quite ugly for the USA.\nAny way, its just my humble opinion.\n\nP.S.-"Empires don`t have friends, they have interests" -Sir Winston Churchil
421459
Depends on who's saying it... when Bush says stuff like - The International commmunity is behind us in Iraq - he means the America and her allies, other people seem to have a european view of "international commuinty".. focusing a lot of european countries... it should probably be all nations, but it rarely takes third world nations into account...
854412
I don't think so but..I don't want to become a member of the EU, as a Turk.\n\nWe're fed up with the lies..\n\nAnd I don't want east too..They are so religious.\n\nTurkey isn't a Europen country but it isn't a eastern country..We have our own culture and life style. And we are happy for this (or I'm happy for this).
966948
Europe, and especially western Europe, is in the midst of a crisis of civilizational morale. IT IS DYING. The most dramatic manifestation of that crisis is not to be found in Europe's fondness for governmental bureaucracy, socialism or its devotion to fiscally shaky health care schemes and pension plans, in Europe's lagging economic productivity or in the appeasement mentality and cowardice that some European leaders display toward Islamist terrorism. No, the most dramatic manifestation of Europe's crisis of civilizational morale is the brute fact that Europe is DEPOPULATING itself.\n\nEurope's below-replacement-level birthrates have created situations that would have been unimaginable when the institutions of European integration were formed in the late 1940s and early 1950s. By 2050, if present fertility patterns continue, 60 percent of the Italian people will have no personal experience of a brother, a sister, an aunt, an uncle, or a cousin; Germany will lose the equivalent of the population of the former East Germany; and Spain's population will decline by almost one-quarter. Europe is depopulating itself at a rate unseen since the Black Death of the fourteenth century.And one result of that is a Europe that is increasingly "senescent" (as British historian Niall Ferguson has put it).\n\nWhen an entire continent, healthier, wealthier, and more secure than ever before, fails to create the human future in the most elemental sense -- by creating the next generation -- something very serious is afoot. I can think of no better description for that "something" than to call it a crisis of civilizational morale. Understanding its origins is important in itself, and important for Americans because some of the acids that have eaten away at European culture over the past two centuries are at work in the United States, and indeed throughout the democratic world.\n\nThe demographics are unmistakable: Europe is dying. The wasting disease that has beset this once greatest of civilizations is not physical, however. It is a disease in the realm of the human spirit. David Hart, another theological analyst of contemporary history, calls it the disease of "metaphysical boredom," or boredom with the mystery, passion, and adventure of life itself. Europe, in Hart's image, is boring itself to death.\n\nAnd in the process, it is allowing radicalized twenty-first century Muslims -- who think of their forebears' military defeats at Poitiers in 732, Lepanto in 1571, and Vienna in 1683 (as well as their expulsion from Spain in 1492), as temporary reversals en route to Islam's final triumph in Europe -- to imagine that the day of victory is not far off. Not because Europe will be conquered by an invading army marching under the Prophet's banners, but because Europe, having depopulated itself out of boredom and culturally disarmed itself in the process, will have handed the future over to those Islamic immigrants who will create what some scholars call "Eurabia": the European continent as a cultural and political extension of the Arab-Islamic world. Should that happen, the irony would be unmistakable: the drama of atheistic humanism, emptying Europe of its soul, would have played itself out in the triumph of a thoroughly NONHUMANISTIC THEISM. Europe's contemporary crisis of civilizational morale would reach its bitter conclusion when Notre-Dame becomes Hagia Sophia on the Seine, another great Christian church become an Islamic museum. At which point, we may be sure, the human rights proclaimed by those narrow secularists who insist that a culture's spiritual aspirations have nothing to do with its politics would be in the gravest danger.\n\nWhat is fascinating is those east european countries that tasted the dead fruit of socialism, atheism and communism had shaken it off for good and western europe is demanding its own experience of the walking dead as seen in the vamp
755527
This is America's war.. no one else has such a problem with the middle east. If they disrupt the UN and look down on Europe, we should just leave them to their own mess.
782231
Within this decade, not likely. Yet, within a generation, based on immigration patterns allowed by European nations, and the prolific breeding patterns of Muslims (especially when compared to Europeans), then yes. It will be interesting to watch the 'social democracies' of Europe deal with it, as they are bred and voted out of existence. As all of their hard work and investments go into the wealth redistribution programs they now champion, and then are filtered away by the very political state they created, it will be laughable. They denounce the US, and its current actions, but they are a scant few years away.
1022887
no, I think smithereens is to nice to put the middle east their
605274
People from Western Europe/US tend to think of Eastern Europe and former Soviet countries as "not European" I have noticed....I guess because those countries were closed off for so long? Or they're arrogant? I don't know. Lame but true!
336065
there are alot of countries responsible for what has happened in the middle east. Every western nation has had a hand in dividing up the middle east for either religion or oil. Isreal is only the most recent example. If we gave every country in the middle east the support we give Isreal, that would be a very different region today. \n\nThe cultural divide is the only thing I see that has stopped us. For instance, after 9/11 many groups were advocating that we lock up all muslims in the US in concentration camps because they are muslim. The people of the middle east's reaction to this attitude is what is causing the problems. They hate the way we think of them. \n\nWill there be another attack? probably. Will we hear about it? I hope not, but some politician will probably want to reap the political rewards of making us afraid despite what it would do to this country. Thousands of people die in the US every day. Terrorism is the least likely cause, and our government should recognize that.
409202
no, the more we war with the middle east, the higher prices are gonna go. south america is laughing because they arent gonna sell to us either. we are alienating ourselves. by this, we'll choke off any oil contacts & grind our production, tranportation & economy to a halt. uk isnt gonna back us anymore, we lost any european alies with the last iraq campaign, the saudis have other customers & dont necesarilly need us & irael has always sabbotaged usa, obviously not our friend. we have 20 years of oil at best here at home. china & russia wont buddy up. who do we have left. we're wedging ourselves into a position of having to attack & steal. yeh, the global economy will change in the near future, for the worst.
83941
More thank likely another conflict in the Middle East is very likely.  \n\nThey are comparing the president of Iran to Hitler when it comes to anti-semistism.  I was reading somewhere, I think it was an article on CNN, where someone was saying that back then people just dismissed Hitler's anti-semtic stance as just rhetoric or empty speech and if they acted they could've prevented the Nazi Regime.  Well that person said that they should not dismiss the president of Iran's speech as rhetoric, empty speech, and pursuit of nuclear enrichment, but they should "act" this time around.
870096
YES\nthey do its on media everyday brainwashing them\nthey have less freedom of speech and actions than euro's
955442
THIS PROBABLY REQUIRES A LENGTHY ESSAY?!\n\nHOW IT HAS CHANGED \n\nFOR THIS YOU MAY WANT TO GO BACK 60 YEARS AT THE END OF WWII.  BASICALLY, EUROPE WAS SPLIT INTO TWO THE WEST (NATO) AND EAST (WARSAW PACT).  MILITARY BUILDUP ON BOTH SIDES GREW CONTINUOUSLY UNTIL THE END OF THE COLD WAR. \n\nTHEN WHEN THE IRON CURTAIN FELL AND COMMUNISM FAILED IN 1989, EUROPE REALLY BECAME A LARGE CONFEDERATION UNDER THE NEW EUROPEAN COMMON MARKET.  DEMOCRACY WAS FLOODED ALL THE WAY PAST WARSAW AND INTO RUSSIA.  IN 1994 I WAS IN PRAGUE THE CZECH REPUBLIC AND THEY ALREADY HAD A K-MART IN THE TOWN SQUARE! IT WAS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN OUR TRADITIONAL K-MART MORE LIKE A SAFEWAY OR A RALEYS SUPERMARKET.  NEW MARKETS  AND TRANSPORTATION OPENED FOR THE EAST.\n\nANYWHO, AS TIME PASSED AND THE EURO DOLLAR HAS BEEN ISSUED, A STRONGER UNION OF THE INDIVIDUAL COUNTRIES ARE BINDING CLOSER TOGETHER THAT MAY EVENTUALLY FORM A UNITED EUROPE SOME YEARS TO COME.  \n\nMANY NEW CHALLENGES FACE MODERN EUROPE;\nIMMIGRATION HAS INCREASED, SPECIFICALLY FROM THE MIDDLE EAST, ECONOMIC DIVERSITY HAS BEEN CHALLENGING BETWEEN NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN EUROPE.  TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT HAS INCREASED,  THERE IS JUST SO MUCH ABOUT THESE EVENTS...TOO MUCH TO LIST.\n\nHOW IT HAS REMAINED THE SAME, THAT I KNOW OF:\n\nEACH REGIONAL AREA HAS MAINTAINED ITS OWN LANGUAGE AND CULTURE.  MOST EDUCATED PEOPLE SPEAK SEVERAL LANGUAGES OR AT LEAST TWO (MOTHER TONGUE AND ENGLISH).
236236
I think it will eventually. Turkey has cleaned up its human rights record IMMENSELY, and its economy is already better than several current EU member states in Eastern Europe. I think people are nervous about letting it in because its population is growing so quickly and because it is a mostly Muslim state. To tell the truth, I don't think either arguement will hold up much longer. Aging Europe could use the population boost, and the great majority of Europe doesn't profess (or at least practice) ANY religion anymore, Christian or otherwise.\n\nThe only way I can see that Turkey WOULDN'T join is if the EU put them off so long that they finally threw up their hands and gave up. Either that, or if they EU fell apart because of infighting before Turkey got the chance to join.