Can anyone who has "seen" The Devil in the flesh explain to me what they saw?
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I will try to explain to you…\n\nFirst of all… the devil is a spirit creature… and is not thrice in structure as a human being is.  A human being is soul, body, and spirit.  Therefore saying “the devil in the flesh” is not a good way to describe such.\n\nFallen celestials are no longer ‘perfect beings’ because fallen angels gained a ‘fallen nature’ after falling from grace.  Being a spirit… a fallen angel’s form is nothing like that of a human being or an animal’s form, etc.\n\nSpirits are physically around… but their nature as spirits is extremely different from anything that the human being normally sees around.  People just try to get around this difficultly by saying that they are ‘spiritual’.  So, basically to the human being in the common mindset… celestial beings are very alien to us.  They are so unearthly and have such unfamiliar forms, that… to see one physically… as one would see another human… it can strike fear into an individual.  Nevertheless… no one should fear a mere creature.\n\nIt is hard to describe unearthly things in language that can be well understood.  Basically… seeing a fallen angel ‘can’ be just like seeing George W Bush.  You can see Bush, hear him, or even touch him… because he is actually real.  Actually seeing a fallen angel is not something in the mind.  Just as Bush is real… so are fallen angels.\n\nFallen angels can be:  seen, heard (as you would hear another human being), smelt, touched, and sensed.\n\nThe below information is copied from a website:  (it is a description of Satan in one of his two forms… being a spirit he shifts).\n_____________________________________________\nILLUSTRATION OR ANALYSIS OF FORM\nDESIGNED TO CLARIFY MISUNDERSTANDINGS\n\nDifferences from the human form\n\nHeylel’s form includes different textures that are of fallen angelic nature, wings \nthat withdraw or retract into his back, a tail with spade tip, another joint (extra part \nto the leg) from the shin, then ankles and cloven hooves.  Although, commonly \ndepicted as having claws or horns, he has neither in his humanoid form.  Heylel \nalso has a nictitating membrane (that can move across the eye) as a lizard or a cat.\n\nHeight and Weight\n\nIn Heylel’s humanoid form, his height is 5’6”.  The angelic being’s standard \nweight changes because they are spirit beings.\n\nSkin, leather and fur colorization, etc\n\nHeylel’s skin colorization is a shiny, light white.  The creature’s fur fades from \nblond – to a dark (copper/reddish) brown – being variegated in a usually unkempt \nmatter.  Heylel’s fur tends to shed as flying dust, no doubt showing that he is \ncursed.  Hair or fur in this type of condition indicates an unhealthy state.  He has \nfur from his waist down, in length, much like a long-haired cat.  Heylel’s wings \nand his tail have a leather-like skin, not scales, the leather shades from red to a \ndarker red.  The bones of his wings are covered in a black leather skin.  The \ncreature’s cloven hooves are much like the natural colorization of a cow’s hoof.\n\nFacial features\n\nHeylel has blond spiky hair.  He has a beard (the imperial beard), and very light \nblue eyes – that seem to reflect.  The creature has a wound (or scar) on the top-\nright side of his head.  At times, the wound has a yellowish substance that exudes \nand becomes incrusted on his head.  When yellowish the creature smells rotten.  \nHe also has a scar above the right eye.\n\nWings\n\nHeylel’s wings look strange.  They appear to be, as if they were bat wings.  \nHowever, the creature most likely had feathered wings in the beginning.   They are \nmade of a hallowed bone structure with a thin layer of tightly stretched leather-like \nskin other the bones.  You could see shades of light though the stretched skin.\n\nOther features\n\nHeylel has a tumor on the outer side of his right shin.\n_____________________________________________\n(Article ends he
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yes i would care to know the deeper meaning to the story! it would interest me! good luck w/ ur research!
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I found the language of the show to be quite interesting. Fore instance, during the first half of the show, they kept asking the question: "Is it real?" This isn't really what they meant, what they meant was "Is it old?" To me, they were implying that "real" = "true".\n\nThey also did not mention several Gnostic beliefs that would have discredited the movement in many people's eyes. You remember the scene at the last supper when they talked about Jesus laughing because the disciples were worshipping the wrong God, that the God who created the universe was actually an inferior God that was not worthy to be worshipped. What they didn't say was that Gnostics believed that this was the God of the Old Testament, so they ignored the Old Testament.\n\nAnother thing that stuck out to me was the phrase "When Jesus appeared on the Earth." Because they believed that the material world was evil, they had what is known as a Docetic view of Jesus. That is, that Jesus only appeared to be human, because God would have never become human and contaminated himself with the material world.\n\nI strongly agree with the speaker at the end who said that the Gospel of Judas provides valuable historical information about the history of Christianity and the movements within it. It shows us that there was never one single Christianity being practiced.  People have beein arguing about who Jesus was since a few minutes after he died.  With that being said, I do not personally believe it provides a historically accurate picture of the characters of Jesus and Judas.\n\nFinally, they seemed to think the fact that there were many Christianities unique. I have to disagree with that. There are many different versions of the Christian faith today, with different holy texts, etc. The book of Mormon is a prime example.\n\nIf you read the other Gnostic texts, you will find they have a lot in common with the Gospel of Judas.  For instance, both the Gospel of Judas and the Gospel of Thomas elevate one of the Disciples above the others.  The Gospel of Mary Magdalene does the same thing for Mary.  None of the four canonical gospels does this for their author.\n\nAnother thing that absolutely amazes me is that we have 4 gospels that tell very similar stories.  There are some minor differences in the order of events or the events included, but they are consistant for the most part.  One new gospel is found that offers a different story and many people jump on that and say, "Wow!  This is the real story."  It just doesn't make any sense.
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You need to see it to fully understand.  Please review the videos at:\n\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYu6_cNRCD4\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io40bTjlYCY
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I don't know what to think of that....and I watched the video twice.\n\nVery compelling video with a great soundtrack.
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SORRY BUT PANDERING TO THE HYPE, WRONG WORD PERHAPS!! IN MY HUMBLE OPINION IT WAS A FILM MADE WITH AN EYE ON THE BOX OFFICE. WELL SHOT PRESENTED BUT PURELY HYPOTHETICAL, AND IT STILL LEFT ME WONDERING \n\nTOO MUCH EMPHAISE ON THE WHOLE SCENARIO OF THAT HORRIBLE DAY AND DARE I SAY IT PERHAPS THE FILM COMPANY WAS CASHING IN!!!!
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I am thrilled on film release of Da Vinci Code.I read the book.Opus Dei has a lot under cover.You never know whats behind the iron curtain.
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I watched it.  I doubt it will stir up any thoughts among the people who most need the thoughts.  The Pope left it off the list of the New Testament so no one uses it.  Since I accept papal authority and the authority of the episcopate, it isn't an issue for me.  It is an interesting view into early Christianity but none of the thoughts are new.  I think there are profound implications for Protestants, but I don't think they will notice them.  By brushing it off as outside the canon, they are ignoring the issue of how the canon was determined.  They do not have a formal mechanism of rejecting it, but why do they stick with the Catholic NT.  I don't understand that.  I could see not accepting Judas, by why not Hermas or Barnabas or I Clement?\n\nThat is something I don't get, there is no reason for Protestants to not use them except an appeal to apostolic tradition which they reject.\n\nI would like to see the entire translation when it is done, to the extent it is recovered.  Should make for an interesting view into that early period of ideas.  From my viewpoint reading Judas is like reading Calvin, they hold the same weight and correctness and so are interesting because they are, from an ideas point of view, valid ideas just not valid teaching.
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Since there is no original copy of the OT present today, no one knows what was changed and altered.\n\n\nIsa 29:15  You are in for trouble, if you try to hide your plans from the LORD! Or if you think what you do in the dark can't be seen. \nIsa 29:16  You have it all backwards. A clay dish doesn't say to the potter, "You didn't make me. You don't even know how." \n\n(JPS)Isa 29:16   O your perversity! ...\n\n(KJV+)  Surely your turning of things upside down...\n\n\n\n2Co 11:13  Anyway, they are no more than false apostles and dishonest workers. They only pretend to be apostles of Christ. \n2Co 11:14  And it is no wonder. Even Satan tries to make himself look like an angel of light. \n2Co 11:15  So why does it seem strange for Satan's servants to pretend to do what is right? Someday they will get exactly what they deserve.
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Not one of my favorite paintings. I fail to see the attraction. Although it is definately haunting.\nI always have to wonder about a person's mindset, though, when they produce something like that.\nTraumatic event? Psychotic?
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I would honestly be very suspicious of any detailed (physical) descriptions of Satan. Not that I would doubt whether or not the person saw Satan, or that they gave a good description of what they saw, but that Satan appears in various forms is evident, and he is smart enough to appear in whatever form best suits the purpose of the moment.\nFirst of all, Satan is both a liar and a spirit being (not limited to a single physical form), and will use whatever (physical) form is best suited to the lie.\nSecond, the various 'sightings' of Satan may or may not be Satan himself. They could just as well be another fallen angel (demon, imp, gargoyle, whatever name you want to use).\nLies and misdirection are the stock-in-trade of all these beings, so for them to lie about who they are (including names) is very common.\nThe Bible is not all that clear about names and physical descriptions of fallen angels, so those come from other sources. Personal experiences, books based on other's experiences, etc, and it's all very subjective.\nBiblical descriptions of the Evil One are character-based, not physical. The character of the devil, satan, whatever imp, demon, gargoyle, etc is easy to recognize from Scripture, so apparently, physical descriptions (and even names) are far less important than knowing the characteristics of the enemy.\nThe Bible does say that Satan (and his servants) can appear as angels of light, and workers of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:13-15)\nThe Bible says that ALL other names are under the name of Jesus Christ, so knowing Jesus (and being able to recognize His true messengers) is the important thing. I think its a lot like when a bank employee is being taught to recognize a counterfeit bill - they don't show them all the clever fakes, they make them become so familiar with the real thing that the fakes become obvious.
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I have the book.  I've read the book.  It is non-fiction.  It is a book about serious spiritual warfare.  I have no reason to disbelieve any of it.  I believe Rebecca's experiences are so "severe," because she had dabbled in the occult before she became a Christian.  In other words, she opened herself up to the troubles she has faced.\n\nI do not believe what you will read in this book will be a typical representation of what most Christians will face, spiritual-warfare-speaking, in their lifetimes.  But those who've been involved in witchcraft, the occult, etc. prior to becoming a Christian already have Satan's full attention.  And he does NOT like to lose a good servant.  So he tries to get them back any way he can.  Rebecca is one of those people.\n\nBe prepared for nightmares if you read the book.
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Yes it's very interesting. I've heard different versions of this. What's actually a good read and goes into some detail about this stuff is "the bible code II".\n\nif you place yourself back in biblical times and saw a ufo how would you describe it? "it came from the heavens"\n\nif the occupants came out how would you describe them? "gods"\n\nif they showed you something as simple as a cigarete lighter what would you say? "they can perform miracles, creating fire from their hands"\n\nthere are many references in the bible that describe things that can be interpreted as aliens.\n\nso i wouldn't say there is no evidence like a poster mentioned here. check out the link i am providing that seems to show that we have been visited throughout recorded history...
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I am mature enough in the FAITH(my WALK with GOD) to watch it.  I am kinda looking forward to it and will watch it like a good mystery flick!!!! I will probably spot most of the error's in it so I probably won't get decieved and tripped up, and I will probably PRAY for GOD to keep me from ALL DECEPTION befor I watch it, if I don't forget.  IF you have any FEAR's about  WATCHING IT, then grow stronger in the FAITH WALK, and watch re-run's later.  Wouldn't want satan decieving you and causing trouble in your Walk with GOD, course HE would help you later(get out all of the trouble-some deception's in your mind that you allowed to come in by watching it) it is up to you----free-will---GOD BLESS you if you watch it(to keep the deception's out) in JESUS NAME!!!!!
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Have yet to see it..but I heard it truly portrays everything exactly as it happened. Very genuine. I think I might go rent it soon for that reason, for I am tired of seein' lies about Christ in so many movies.
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I wish so much that I understood that movie so I could answer your question.  I've seen it at least 4 times and really have no idea what is real and what is fake!
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It is chilling. Try to watch if you haven't seen it.\n\nIf you ever wavered about the belief of the devil living\namong us...........