How would you feel if we let Illegals become U.S. citizens if they served in our military for 6 to 8 yrs?
154627
id say they did more to earn it then over half u civis out there, they faught for thier own rights (not like many that rather attack tbe men fighting for thier rights, not that that pretains to this question in any way.)
184901
Have them apply for citizenship.
398388
not a bad idea but if they really wanted to be citizens they should do it the old fashioned way.  they just want to work for a few years then go home and live like kings off the money they made here
51181
12 years active duty. I would have to say I agree for the most part... But I also want to add "my 2 cents" If a country brings the fight to us we should by ALL means, hunt them down and if that means fighting in Iraq, Cuba, Mexico or Mars then lets get it on!!
1071724
I just want to clarify this issue with you. Congress has been considering a program which would give illegal immigrants an 11-year probationary period to gain citizenship and other stuff like learn English. If they fail during those eleven years, they will be deported. End of story. Upon reading a news article, it mentioned that this would be the hardest road to take to gain citizenship (I think it's called the guest worker program).\n\nHowever, I agree with you that illegal immigrants should be behind the "line" as you call it; considering legals should and have a higher status in our society.\n\nAlso take this into account: it is IMPOSSIBLE to deport every single illegal immigrant out of this country (by the way, there are about 12 million illegals not 20 million).\n\nOh, and to the person who posted after me [sashie], if you have been keeping up with the news--in about MAY (like a whole month ago!) the Senate passed a bill that would begin the construction of a 370 mile wall around the US-Mexican border, also adding 500 miles of vehicle barriers. Not only that, but previous to the bill President George Bush put the National Guard on the border. So the government is actually doing lots of stuff to protect the border now...
889848
I am totally for it, I said this time and time again. If they want to become citizens than pay up your long overdue. If they knew they had to , they would go back real quick I bet. Also the government needs to stop giving away aid to them.
811295
I agree.  My father faught in the Korean war to gain citizenship.  It shows a loyalty to the country they wish to be a part of.
1129162
It might sound good to an illegal criminal, but not to LEGAL USA Citizens:\nSenate Bill-- the rights illegals will get:\nCurrent Bill:\n\n1. grants amnesty to the MILLIONS of illegals already here!\n2.grants amnesty to illegals FAMILYS,who live OUTSIDE the country\n3.admits HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of unskilled "guest workers",through a new "guest worker" program,with a direct path to permanent resident and citizenship!\n4.admits 1.5 MILLION\nagricultural "guest workers" with a direct path to citizenship!\n5.increases the number of employment based, immigrants admitted to the U.S. each year,by 400%!!\n6.gives the Dept.of Homeland Insecurity,the discretion to waive fines for employers who knowingly hire illegals!!\n7.allows states to give ILLEGALS,in-state tuition benefits that they can DENY to citizens who live in other states!\n8.requires consultation with the MEXICAN government,before we begin construction of a fence along OUR border!\n9.creates new student visa programs,with direct path to citizenship!\n10.allows ILLEGALS to claim Social Security benefits,for work performed ILLEGALLY!!!!\n11. Adds a 10 year 'statute of limitations' to give amnesty to illegals coming in in the future if they provide documentation saying they were here for 10 years at any future point. (This to people who have been using false documents all along.)\n12. Each of the guest workers in each of the 1.5 million person PER YEAR and 200,000 unskilled person PER YEAR program would, upon obtaining residency or citizenship be able to bring their families as well. This includes indigent parents at a time when we already don't know how we will fund old age requirements for the baby boomers.\n\nThe Wall Street Journal just touted a poll saying Americans are beginning to prefer Bush and the Senate's view to immigration reform. However, I've read the questions they asked. Had I not actually read the Senate Bill and had I been asked those questions, I'd have ended up being counted as supporting Bush and the Senate in this. People only approve of the Senate Bill if they don't know what it says.\n\nThey are not looking out for legal American Citizens. They don't listen to us. They are listening to freeloading illegal immigrants. If enough of the voting legal population will get their heads out of their butts and let their senators and representatives know how they feel about this atrocity to the American people they just might start to listen to us. \nThe laws on illegal immigration are already on the books, they just need to ENFORCE THEM.\n***********Americans Need to Get Their Heads**********\n*********Out Of Their Butts And Pay Attention************\n\nCredit goes to: DAR and yars232c Y!A members
797169
I say put them in the military.  Prove your loyalty.
194722
What do you think we'd do? They can't beat us on their home ground let alone in 48 contiguous states! We'd kick their A$$es! Anyway, we have nothing against them now. I would hate that it would happen but if you were an Iraqi soldier would you want to fight us, especially on our turf? Come on! If it were to happen our Marines and Army would be scraping them up off the bottom of their shoes! I don't mean to sound American egotistical but I do know that we have one of the finest, most well trained military in the world. It wouldn't last too long, I guarantee it because what the military might miss, our American citizens would take up the slack to defend our own. I would gladly become part of a militia to protect my country from things like that. I wouldn't think twice about it. I'd be there next to my American brethren in no time because this country and it's people are more precious to me than life itself, and I'd never turn my back on them.
1144134
No.  \n\nI would like to see a CONDITIONAL amnesty given to all the illegals here now. (Assuming we are stopping more from coming in). The conditions ...\n\nThey must learn basic English.\nThey must learn some American history and culture.\nThey must be financially dependent, i.e., either employed or have a financial sponsor.\nThey must swear their allegiance to America and be signed up for the draft. (Within the draft eligibility guidelines)\nThey will have a FELONY conviction on their records so they can never posses a gun or vote, even if they become citizens.\n\nThey must do this within a time frame, such as 1 year. If they don't, or at least show effort after the time frame, they will be deported.\n\nThis will only work if we protect our borders. If we keep allowing them in, it's just a waste of time!
83977
This is a very good question.\n\nI do not think it should be required for citizenship, but I do think it could be tied into certain "benefits". I firmly believe that true service would help most people, lower unemployment (military training translates to outside employment), and lessen the "gimme, gimme, gimme a handout" crap that is very widespread. Why should people be given welfare when they are able bodied enough to serve in the military? Why should people squeeze money from the Fed for schooling, when they can earn that benefit by serving in the armed forces?
584711
I'd definitely support legalization for someone who volunteered for combat service. If they are willing to defend this country, the least we can do is let them live here.\n\nAmnesty for illegals isn't fair, and you know it.  It is a matter of where do we want to put our resources, what do we want to live with having done, how effective would deportation be at the end of the day and at what social cost, and should we at least partly blame our government for letting these people get to the point where this is the only home they have?\n\nI don't know how to get something workable out of the Senate Bill, though. I think we may just need to start over.
489508
I know that there are Mexicans in the US armed forces.  Actually, illegal immigrants in the USA are offered US citizenship after their stint if they join the US armed forces.  So some of them do go that route to get US citizenship.\n\nSparty - you are wrong - you do not have to be a US citizen to join the US armed forces.
1105244
Well, you have actually made an interesting point.  But I am not sure that would even satisfy the bigots on this board. \n\nThat is a fair and reasonably request to make of someone who came here and broke the law.  You want to live here? Then it comes with a price. I am not sure how you would implement it though..\n\nI think making it volunteer is right as well.  You cant force someone to join the military, if they want to stay here legally, they have the choice to join military, as sortof a consequence for coming here illegally.\n\nAs far as bush and the illegals, I think it is a diversion from the real problem of the war in Iraq.  A smokescreen to draw attention away from that issue.  This problem of illegals is NOT new to this country.  Its been going on for years and it will continue.  \n\nThe American government isn't going to do anything about it.  It profits them to keep the status quo.  The economy is helped in many ways due to illegals, even though some will never admit that.  Living on the border I see if first hand. .
604783
If it adds new skills and techniques to our troops on handling civilians at the border, then I'm all for it. I think people should come to this country legally. Get the proper paperwork done and you can come in! It's not fair to the other people who got in legally.
288404
let me break it down for ya. if you are not legal u should get put in jail, if you are legal be the fuck queit, if you want to become a legal us citizen, so do it the right way or do it bush's way an end up in the war. REMEMBER FIGHT FOR US YOU GET YOUR FREEDOM, BLACK SLAVES