For those that say they are against the death penalty but for abortion....?
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I know you don't actually want an answer - you seem more interested in pontificating.  Be that as it may, it is perfectly easy to justify a belief in the legality of abortion vs. the legality of the death penalty.  For me, capital punishment is a governmental rights issue - that is, I do not believe the government has the right to deprive its citizens of life under any circumstances.  It's simply something the government should not be allowed to do, because allowing it for some people (odious though they may be) makes it easier to apply it for lesser crimes - a slippery slope argument, essentially.\n\nAbortion is a different issue, because (1) it is not the government depriving someone of life; (2) there's no scientific reason to argue that life begins at conception; and (3) if we assume life begins at conception, then all laws regarding children would apply to zygotes/fetuses, which would be unworkable in any society.
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Personally, I'm pro-choice and pro-capital punishment.\n\nAddendum to original response:\n\nTELL YA WHAT DRACULA... You swear on the lives of every family member you have (and all people like minded as you), TO GOD, that you will NO LONGER pass judgement or preach your religous hipocricy. And that you will, in turn, allow others to run their own lives and make their own choices from that moment on. Break THAT VOW and you agree to God striking down EVERY ONE YOU HAVE SWORN ON...\n\nIf you agree to those terms, then, my closed minded LITTLE "friend", I will deliver the 50% you asked for, directly into the hands of Jesus himself... \n\nThe great part to this addendum ? I am quite aware, that you are completely incapable of keeping your nose out of others lives, and of passing judgements, thus the deal is void, before the ink dries. For it is in your nature to think you have some power greater than human, to control others, like pawns on a chess board... And, oh, what a wonderful thing it is, for ther rest of us to know, that you do not have that power... \n\nAffectionately,  \nA sexy as hell pagen, pro-choice, card carrying nud ist.  :)\n\nKisses !
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I am pro-death penalty and believe in life for life
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I am constantly amazed at how those support abortion will try to turn the argument against those of us who find it appalling.  Someone who says the argument is "insulting" is striking out because they can't justify their position.  No one seems able to determine why is it that the pro-abortionist as so animate about their position.  Why is it so important to allow women to destroy life?
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Personally, I believe abortion to be wrong. I will say that to anyone. Most people don't have a problem with getting someone to at least stop and think before attaining an abortion. You always make a better decision when you think about all available options. BTW, I do help feed the hungry.
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Virtually no one, of any political party, believes killing is always wrong.  The question is: when is it justified?\n\nAlmost everyone agrees that killing is justified when it is necessary to protect your own life or the life of another.  People opposed to abortion generally believe that killing innocents is morally wrong.  Many of those same people also believe that killing as a punishment for a crime is also wrong.  However, many believe that killing as a punishment for especially heinous crimes (multiple murders, killing a cop, killing a child) is justified.\n\nThe common thread is a moral one: a baby has done nothing to deserve getting killed.  He or she did not even come into being voluntarily, that was thrust upon him.  A serial killer, on the other hand, has, by his actions, discarded all pretense of being a moral actor.  He has forfeited whatever claim he may have had to inclusion in the moral community.\n\nI think the question whether, and to what extent, abortion should be permitted ought to be democratically determined.  Not because I think baby-killing is OK--I think it is a horrible, gruesome, almost unimaginably brutal act--but because I think it is of such importance that any society ought to be forced to choose it explicitly.  By voting.  I think if people want to choose to be part of a society that kills babies, that is perfectly OK.  Be baby killers.  Some societies have chosen to be slave owners.  Some have chosen to eat the flesh of their enemies.  Some have chosen to exterminate those of another race or culture.  If you think killing babies enriches the culture, go, live your dream.
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Pro-choice. If I was raped I might not want to have the baby. I probably would-because the baby didn't do anything, and I'd probably end up giving it up for adoption, but I still want to be able to choose. And why should anyone have the right to make that choice for other women? I'm also pro-choice because with abortion legal at least its quick, safe and doesn't kil the mother or simply deform the fetus. before legal abortions there were still abortions, they just were unsafe and killed many desperate young women, and those who didnt die faced criminal charges.
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Blingme - Her question was stated correctly. She is essentially trying to determine why states allow abortion if it is illegal to kill a human being. And if a state charges a murderer with two murders for murdering a pregnant woman, what is the exact definition of life. \n\n1) Either a baby is alive and the two murders is correct. In this case, abortion should be illegal; or,\n\n2) A baby is not alive and only one murder should be charged. In this case, abortion would be okay.\n\nShe is pointing out a convenient catch-22 in the abortion debate.\n\nEDIT: bree123 - I do not believe she is calling out the hypocrisy of the double homicide law. She is calling out the hypocrisy of abortion.\n\nAnd citing the ACLU does NOT make me put a lot of trust in your judgment. It is a little like me citing all the evidence the National Right to Life cites proving that life starts at conception. You aren't going to buy that. Any evidence cited should be from a) a disinterested party, or b) a source that gives BOTH sides of the argument - like my initial assessment of her statement above.\n\nSource(s): Debate 101.
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Ooh touchy topic!!\n\nIt depends on the circumstances. I am against it when a woman is promiscuous and has one after the other (abortions that is) but I do agree with it if there are health risks to either mother or baby if the baby is kept.\nI would also agree if the person was raped and fell pregnant.\n\nEither way, I really don't feel that people should be judged on the decisions they have made. Be it for the right or wrong reason, having an abortion is a terrible thing for anyone to have to consider and I would never want to be in that position.
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The only thing wrong about unnatural death is when it is premeditated murder/suicide... I believe that abortion (unless it is for the mother's life) is murder.  Capital punishment is one thing I haven't gotten my head around yet.  I can't decide.  I lean toward the fact that only God can judge, but I also understand the plea of the victims.
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abortion being legal doesn't take away the fact that to abort the baby is to kill it. legally, i suppose you're right, it's not murder - but it's still killing. i'm pro-life but i believe abortion is morally ok up until the moment a heart beat can be detected. i don't believe in any abortion after that, even if the child is a product of rape or incest. it's not the baby's fault it was conceived in such a disgusting way.
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I'm not.  I can't see any reason to justify abortion.....none.....not even rape, or to "save" the mother.\n\nAnd to all the people saying, "I have no right to tell you what you can or can't do, and you have no right to tell me"  \n        If this is the case, why obey the law?
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No, They are not pro life, they are really anti abortion,\nIf they were pto-life they wouldn't be executing women and incompetants in Taxes.\n\nWomen your birth control pills are next on their agenda. They say that is a form of abortion. Which it isn't. Hope you can afford LARGE families.\n\nANd yes, they don't want to be called anti-abortion. Now it is pro-life, after they just got 3,000 killed in Iraq, though I can't blame them for that. They usually have been on Bush's side regarding the war however. \n\nI am guessing they changed their name probably so they wouldn't be associated with the murder of MD's at abortion clinics and damaging or blowing them up.\n\nPeople are in favor of choice are pro-choice, not necessarily pro=abortion. I imagine the neocons would like to call them pro-death. I don't think there are a lot of people who favor abortion, they just don't want to see it dropped as an option, especially in cases of rape, sexual abuse of a child or the health of a mother's life. I have never been able to understand the rationalization for having a woman who was raped carry the rapist child to term. I think rape is terrible enough without making someone relive it daily. The same goes if the mothers life is in danger. I cannot imagine sacrificing a woman, who may have other children, who is already alive and breathing. It is beyond my comprhension how someone thinks they can make the choice that a living person, who has done nothing wrong, be given a death sentence. And they say no innocent people has been executed. What do you call that?  If they want to make the choice for themselves, go to it!\n\nOne thing is for sure, all those PRO-Lifers are still cutting programs for women, children, handicapped and elderly. Eighty (80) percent are children.\n\nFigures that they won't put their pocketbook where there mouth is.\n\nI don't use the term Pro-life myself because it is a oxy   Moron!
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It is a good question that I too have. Some of the answers have clarified the matter somewhat.\n\nI am also pro choice. I believe in choice of action and deed, choice of religion and choice to decide how your body is used.  As a biologist I have no issues with abortions for medical, genetic or psychological reasons. I think that if by the first trimester you have not figured out what you want, then it is too late. Except for medical reasons, this is a touchy area. I disagree with the statement that your destiny is prechoosen. That an aborted baby could have cured HIV. That same baby could have just as easily turned into an oppressive dictator. It is a moot argument as it has no basis in fact. I may cure AIDS next month, but it has little to do with my parents choices years ago.\nI used to have strong feelings that I would not only support a womens right to choose, that I would sleep soundly after the procedure was done on someone I cared for. Unless for genetic or medical reasons, I now feel it is not an appropriate form of birth control except in cases of rape, or medical reasons.\n\nAs for capital punishment. I fear our justice system is not sound. While I think that murder should be dealt with swiftly and with equal justice, I feel that too many innocent people are railroaded by the system. Poor people, minorities, lesser educated are often singled out and targeted and end up convicted. Mistaken identy for a crime is scary as I can attest. If it had been a more serious offense, the unreliability someone typing data into a computer could have ruined my life. That said, for those where guilt can be proven 100% (i.e. you rob a bank in LA on live tv and shoot someone- kinda hard to not be guilty of that) then you should be executed without years on death row.\n\nSo in the end, I guess I belive in moderated killing of fetus' and moderated killing of adults.
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It blows my mind how people can be anti-capital punishment and pro-abortion.\n\nEither respect all life, or respect all innocent life, but not the liberal "don't kill convicted murders, but kill all the babies you want".\n\nBTW - to the person below... the Bible does NOT say "Thou Shall Not Kill"... it says "Thou Shall Not Committ Murder."  There is a difference.
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Well. I'm pro-choice and pro death penalty.  I agree fully with the inconsistency posed in your question. I feel the same way about those who are pro choice and anti death penalty.  There's no arguing that a multiple murder has less a right to life than a child.\n   My only point I want to make is that it works both ways.
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I myself, while pro-life, feel that rape victims should be able to get an abortion if they so chose. I can't imagine what it would be like to carry the child of a rapist for 9 months.\n\nI think Mexico has a lot of issues, not just this one in which their sense of justice is way out of whack.