Evolution of the universe and planet earth in Creationist view?
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depends...there are two types of creationists, biblical and intelligent design creationists. Biblical and religious creationists believe God created the humans and all otehr creatures as they are 5764 years ago. Intelligent Design believers say God created humans according to an intelligent design and we have evolved from there
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No, because unlike those other things evolution is a myth.\n\nThe question I have is will the scientific community which embraces evolution be like the "scientific community" which embraced a flat world with four corners and the "scientific community" which embraced a earth centric universe. Remember, we don't have the documents of the thoughts of the common people from those long ago eras; we have the documents of their most "profound" thinkers. Today you are mocking them for their views.
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This is asdking me to give away my peper notes on the future book.  The earth began as a big bang a very long time ago.  The energy or wave lenght then was slow compared to the wave lenght of today which is very fast.  One of the reasons we can't go back in time and survive.  Evolution if a forwards motion of time thing.  As the earth formed and it is one among many other planets and galaxcies which to the earth, are its relations, we humans were put here after being cloned form other life forms that were here first. Eventually we connected and started to move forwards as we have with the things we have in the world today. The source of the big bang is the Creator or centre of the universe which is an expanding mass of plasma energy or spirit energy of which is enmeshed into each life form on the earth.  That spirit enters a number of lives of many years until it reaches a higher body frequency that will ensure the spirit on release from the body at it's death, will enter a higher level of life awarness and eventually return to the source from which it came from, but having been through many lifes over many years, it is well learned and able to become a part of the ever expanding plasma source.\nWhen this earth dies and there are no life forms here, the earth will eight be replaced or rested before the next life form is placed here.  Cave man was closed from diosores and other animals life fomes by those extra terestial life fomabns which are still taking samples from people to day with the UFO aductions. Look at to days achievment and imagin a new life form having been cloned from 21 st centery people,  where will that life form evolved to in say two thousd=and more years.  Wel advanced that we are having evoved from the cave man days.  That is evolution or maturut=ring growth of the earth and it's life forms.\nDave
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I believe that God created evolution.  Therefore, I believe in creationism.  Things evolve, but as far as man coming from beast, no way!
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Wow.  There is a staggering amount of ignorance exhibited in this thread.\n\nEvolution can be taught as science because it actually *is* science. Intelligent Design/Creationism is merely a faith based leap to "God did it!" Science is about observing, modelling, and predicting the universe around us.  Creationism is closing your eyes to the world and explaining everything by magic.\n\nHere's part of an answer I posted in another thread that addresses many of the same questions raised and misinformation spewed by some of the responses\nabove:\n\n---------\nThe trouble with most Creationists- scratch that. ONE of the troubles with most Creationists is that they seldom actually argue against evolution as it really is, but against straw-man charicatures of evolution. Rather than actually educating themselves about the subject they ask inane questions like "If man evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?" and then pat themselves on the back thinking they've scored points rather than revealing their ignorance about the subject. And then the choir they are preaching to nod their heads and agree.\n\nHere's a few simple things to remember:\n\n1. Evolution is NOT the study of how life began.\nhttp://www.origins.tv/darwin/abiogenesis.htm#Origins\n\n2. Evolution does NOT say man came from monkeys.\nhttp://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/\n\n3. There will be no "intermediary forms" if by that you expect to see a half-this/half-that critter, nor does evolution say there should be.\nhttp://www.origins.tv/darwin/transitionals.htm\n\n4. Evolution is not incompatible with religious faith. Plenty of scientists believe in both God and evolution. It is only incompatible with the literalist view of Genesis espoused by young earth creationists. Of course, these folks' views run counter to geology, physics, paleontology, archeology, and astronomy as well.\nhttp://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/interpretations.html\nhttp://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-god.html\n\n\n5. While there is vigorous debate about some of the mechanisms and features of evolution, there is no doubt in the scientific community that evolution is real. OF COURSE you will find some cranks out there on the fringe who will fight against evolution (most making a tidy living giving talks to fundamentalist religious groups), just like there are historians who insist the Holocaust didn't occur. Every large enough group will have it's nutballs.\nhttp://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/credentials.html\nhttp://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-creationists.html\nhttp://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/\nhttp://home.entouch.net/dmd/moreandmore.htm\nhttp://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/edwards-v-aguillard/amicus1.html\n\n\n6. Yes, speciation has been observed.\nhttp://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html\n\n7. "Theory" means something entirely different in scientific language than in colloquial use. In science, a theory is a well-tested model of how things work, not "just a guess."\nhttp://www.skeptictank.org/hs/factfaq.htm\n\n8. Evolution is not guided solely by random chance.\nhttp://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/chance.html\n\nI personally don't care if somebody wants to believe that God, Allah, or the Tooth Fairy created the universe. What does bother me are those people who argue against a "cartoon" view of evolution because they feel that it threatens their faith, or because they are too lazy to learn what evolution is before choosing to try and smear it.\nSource(s):\n\nhttp://www.talkorigins.org/\nhttp://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Main_Page\nhttp://www.origins.tv/darwin/evolution.htm\n----------------------\n\n\nFollowup:  Ummm.... You DO understand that Darwin was *ages* ago, and that the field of evolution has advanced light years beyond his notions right?  Darwin's ideas were formed in the 1830s-1850s, and he was unaware of genetics, radiometric dating, protein synthesis, plate tectonics, and a host of ot
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Yes. Many people hold those sorts of beliefs. God created the universe, and Evolution is part of His plan. No biggie.
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I always find it interesting how people assume that science and religion are irreconcilable.  It is possible to believe in both and it is possible that God does exist and that the big bang theory is what created the earth.  Many creationists approach the creation theory from a fundamentalist perspective.  The Bible is full of metaphors and figurative language.  It is not necessarily meant to be taken literally.  Perhaps God provided the catalyst for the big bang making both creationism and science accurate.  Just a theory.
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I don't think you will get a satisfying answer becausae you worded your question in a rather confusing fashion.\n\nIf you don't want to discuss natural selection, don't use the word evolution at all.  Ask about Big Bang Cosmologies instead.
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In Al-Quran.. the details of creation of the earth is accurate and detailed and has been aproved by scientist. \n\nTHE COMING OF THE UNIVERSE INTO EXISTENCE\nHe is the Originator of the heavens and the earth. (Qur'an, 6:101)\n\nTHE EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE\nAnd it is We Who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it. (Qur'an, 51:47)\n\nTHE END OF THE UNIVERSE AND THE BIG CRUNCH\nThat Day We will fold up heaven like folding up the pages of a book. As We originated the first creation so We will regenerate it. It is a promise binding on Us. That is what We will do. (Qur'an, 21:104)\n\nThey do not measure Allah with His true measure. The whole earth will be a mere handful for Him on the Day of Rising the heavens folded up in His right hand. Glory be to Him! He is exalted above the partners they ascribe! (Qur'an, 39:67)\n\nCREATION FROM HOT SMOKE\nHe placed firmly embedded mountains on it, towering over it, and blessed it and measured out its nourishment in it, laid out for those who seek it-all in four days. Then He turned to heaven when it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come willingly or unwillingly." They both said, "We come willingly." (Qur'an, 41:10-11)\n\nTHE SPLITTING ASUNDER OF "THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH"\nDo those who disbelieve not see that the heavens and the earth were sewn together and then We unstitched them and that We made from water every living thing? So will they not believe? (Qur'an, 21:30)\n\nTHE CREATION OF WHAT LIES BETWEEN THE HEAVENS \nAND THE EARTH\nWe did not create the heavens and earth and everything between them, except with truth. The Hour is certainly coming, so turn away graciously. (Qur'an, 15:85)\n\nEverything in the heavens and everything on the earth and everything in between them and everything under the ground belongs to Him. (Qur'an, 20:6)\n\nWe did not create heaven and earth and everything in between them as a game. (Qur'an, 21:16)\n\nTHE PERFECT EQUILIBRIUM IN THE UNIVERSE\nHe Who created the seven heavens in layers. You will not find any discrepancy in the creation of the All-Merciful. Look again-do you see any gaps? Then look again and again. Your sight will return to you dazzled and exhausted! (Qur'an, 67:3-4) \n\nTHE FINE TUNING IN THE UNIVERSE\nHe Who created the seven heavens in layers. You will not find any flaw in the creation of the All-Merciful. Look again-do you see any gaps? Then look again and again. Your sight will return to you dazzled and exhausted! (Qur'an, 67:3-4)\n\nDo you not see how He created seven heavens in layers? (Qur'an, 71:15)\n\nHe to Whom the kingdom of the heavens and the earth belongs. He does not have a son and He has no partner in the Kingdom. He created everything and determined it most exactly. (Qur'an, 25:2)\n\nTHE STRUCTURAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE SUN, THE MOON AND THE STARS\nWe built seven firm layers above you. We installed a blazing lamp. (Qur'an, 78:12-13)\n\nDo you not see how He created seven heavens in layers, and placed the moon as a light in them and made the sun a blazing lamp? (Qur'an, 71:15-16)\n\nIt is the star that pierces through darkness! (Qur'an, 86:3)\n\nORBITS AND THE ROTATING UNIVERSE\n"[I swear] by Heaven with its cyclical systems," (Qur'an, 86:11)\n"its oscillating orbits," (Qur'an, 51:7) \n\nTHE SUN'S TRAJECTORY\nIt is He Who created night and day and the sun and moon, each one swimming in a sphere. (Qur'an, 21:33)\n\nAnd the sun runs to its resting place. That is the decree of the Almighty, the All-Knowing. (Qur'an, 36:38\n\nTHE MOON'S ORBIT\nAnd We have decreed set phases for the moon, until it ends up looking like an old date branch. It is not for the sun to overtake the moon nor for the night to outstrip the day; each one is swimming in a sphere. (Qur'an, 36:39-40)\n\nCALCULATING THE LUNAR YEAR\nIt is He Who appointed the su
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Ok, your question is very interesting and i think many people are thinking that you are jocking or crazy. Ok I will explain you some points:\n\n1.Fracis Crick, co-descovered ot the DNA structure says" The ADN structure could not have evolutioned in the earth in only 300 million of years, is very structured and developed to have been evolutioned in the eart in so short time."\n\n2.Probably the most certain theory about the origin of the life and the species in the earth is the Creation theory. This theory dont have contradictions and is very complete and let us explain everything about the origin of the life in the earth.\n\n3.There are a lot of evidence that the brain from the monk until the brain of the sinhantropus neede 15 million of years, but the brain with the homo sapiens appeared only 1 million of years after. This so Big Jump is impossible and the expert are not agree about what happened.\n\n4. The conlcutio is: We are aliens, because our DNA and our life is not from here, a Super Natural being created us, and this Being is our God. Now from the scriptures we can find many references about this Super Natural Being in the Bible and to him we should to feel respect because he has been with us from the fundation of the world.\n\n5.For this reason I think we are aleins and many reincarnation theories think that we have been in other lives in other planes and here is only one more that the planets where we can learn. For example, The asteroid belt, is considered by some clandestinity groups like a planet that was destroyed between the war between two races that are living in this planet today and they are having the same problems like there. Hopefully the eart will not finish like Traya de Maldek.\n\n6.Many conspiration theories says that the earth have a alien reaces from Z-Reticuli, and they are sharing technology with the American Goverment and it´s probably is a fact, but may be are rummors, the time will show us the true.\n\n7.And Like a Christian I think our Lord Jesus Christ is the most super natural being, our Master and opur Love, our example to Live and may be we will understand everything anbout this world because may be, like a old friend said me one day "The true is a Mirror Broken in thousand Pieces"
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Excellent post.\n\nI get quite tired of the strawman versions of evolution and the scientific method trotted out by creationists.\n\nFor example, the big bang has nothing to do with evolution.  Zero.  \n\nWhere the first life form came from has nothing to do with evolution.  Zero.\n\nA theory is simply the best explanation for observable data.  We witness the diversity of life around us, and we must explain it somehow.  It is NOT meant to be proven.  Theories, in general, are not intended to be proven.\n\nFor example, gravity is a theory.  Is gravity false?  No.  Does gravity follow certain rules?  Absolutely!  Yet it is still a theory, and there ain't nothing wrong with that.\n\nYou well noted that some mechanisms of evolution are still not completely understood.  The theory, while perfectly valid, is not completely explained (just like gravity).  However, what creationists must keep in mind is that if any theory is going to replace evolution, it must explain ALL the evidence and data we have collected.  Genetics, fossil record, geological record, geographic isolation and allele frequency shift.\n\nAt the very best creationism (or ID) only points at the parts that science has not explained.  It offers no real alternative theory.\n\nLastly, the idea of "proof" for a "miracle" (meaning God's flooding of the earth) is oxymoronic, at best.  If there is proof (meaning observational data we can see today) then there is a natural explanation and God had nothing to do with it.  If it was a miracle, then there would be no evidence (since God suspended natural laws to make it happen).  Silly Christian fundamentalists, they want to have their cake and eat it too.
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Do you mean "Is evolution in contradiction to Genesis (the Biblical version)?"?  If so, they are not in competition.  You can believe in creation and evolution.  Evolution is the change in alelle frequency in a population over time.  It has nothing to do with the origin of life itself.  That is a matter for abiogenisists to worry about.  Evolution works no matter what the origin of life actually is.
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I think it makes plenty of sense.  I think evolution and creationism work side by side rather well...after all, how long is a day for God?  \n\nSort of the same way with the big bang when the universe was formed...\n...and God said, Let There Be Light....
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THE EVOLUTION\n\n“I know that the word of “Evolution” has become an obsolete and worthless word in some circles of the people___ and they do frown even on it’s simple reference.\n\nYou will however surprise to know that I, not only, respect these friends and their feelings, rather, I agree to their viewpoint, to some extent, in the light of the current knowledge. Because they apprehend “Evolution” in terms of material or mechanical evolution whereas material or mechanical evolution is far different from that of the creative evolution.\n\nAn important source of Evolution is the Nature’s process of selection. Which is originally one of the laws of nature and a secondary cause, like the other laws of nature, as it’s Creator is again God.\n\nAll the species generated by this process are again the indirect creation of God as the Nature’s process of selection, itself, is not capable to create any specie. It simply admits some species to be nourished, leaving aside the others, to be withered and this process works under some hereditary variations. So___ the survival or removal of a specific specie, is never accidental as it is presumed by the believers of material or mechanical evolution”.\n\nThis very statement of Edward Luther Castle positively removes that superstition. Which has captured, not only, the materialists but the religious leaders as well. Who are still in it’s captivity even after the lapse of so many years. Dr. George Erl Devis, the physicist, writes:\n\n“As much as the knowledge is flourishing and the superstitions are being unveiled___ importance & inevitability of the critical study of religion & ethics___ is increasing day by day in the same scale.”\n\nThe physicist is hinting upon the urge of the “quest for truth and the specific process” which may bring forth, a suitable solution for the problems of life. Of course, we can not lead the life in a particular way unless we come to know the origin of life. What is the actual and factual truth? Only after positive cognition of the same, we can learn to lead the real life. And__ the same learning may, in turn, lead us to the aim of life.\n\nGeorge Erl Devis writes further:\n\n“The surprising scientific discoveries have produced certain indispensable questions. Though not so new, but their nature has become more changed, on account of___ the receipt of detailed information about cosmic system. And___ in any case____ man can not be held as excluded thereform. Among these questions, is the most important question___ upon whose answer is depending___  our aim of life and the system of our moral values. And___ that is the same old question that:\n\nIs there any Supreme and Sublime Source who is the Creator of whole cosmos and who could be surnamed as God?\n\nAnd___ thereby arises the other question, that if God has created us then who has created God? This question is usually raised by the children, in a highly logical air.\n\nWe can not deny the fact, that science has no convincing reply of the question that God is existing or not? Rather, science can never bring forth a scientific proof thereof.\n\nWe are breathing in such a physical universe which is running smoothly in terms of the pre-ordained laws of it’s complexed system. But, it does not mean that we can ever derive some information, through this very universe, about a thing, which is existing outside to this universe. Our universe is just like a room without any doors and windows. And even if it is having the same, then, such glasses are fixed therein that to see & understand the outside thereform is totally impossible. Whereas to see inside from the outside__  is almost possible.”\n\nAs we can not prove the existence or non-existence of God on the basis of science. So it is the all-alone way for us, that whatsoever stock of information we have, about this universe. We should derive a reasonable result therefrom. Such a reasonable result___ which could never be objected on logic
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The theory evolved based on the facts that have been observed in the universe. The theory may not be correct or accurate but it does fit the facts and it is the only explanation anyone has been able to give to fit the facts.  \n\nIf you have a better one let's hear it.
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Evolution and Creation are the same story told differently
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yes!\nWe share 95% of our DNA with monkeys. We have watched the evolution of animals as they have become more adapted to their changing environments. Humans have been able to teach monkeys to communicate too. It seems obvious to me that god created a universe that is ever changing and growing, not stagnant. Why is it so hard to believe that god may have started evolution? Maybe Adam and Eve were the first man and woman but not created from the dust of the earth? Just a thought