How can anyone be pro-abortion and anti-death penalty at the same time?
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Because their thinking and their sympathies are twisted.  A baby has done nothing to harm anyone.  Rapists, child molestores and murderers have.  \n\nI think the people that think murderers should be kept alive should be the ones to pay all their living expenses.
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America has had a debate over both issues for many years now.Sentencing persons to death for their crimes has been around for centuries.So has the practice of abortion dating back 5000 years or more.The whole debate is based on ones own morale beliefs.There lies the debate the struggle between the beliefs of individuals.It is a very hard decision to enforce the moral beliefs of one on another individual. If society as a whole can come to a consensus that no form of death of human life is acceptable or a that terminating a life is acceptable in abortion or in capital punishment.I wont insert my beliefs here but I do agree that there is a contradiction between the two.One human life needs to be viewed equally to another.
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The only people who can legally kill people are the state. That is how conservatives see it. A medical doctor cannot make a decision on life and death. \n\nI do consider myself a consevative however I believe it to be hypocrytical of christians who are against abortion and euthanasia but for the death penalty. Makes no sense at all.
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You are right, life does begin at conception, and killing innocent human beings is always wrong.  I'm glad to hear that you are actually doing something about the killing, unlike people who are only pro-life in word and not in deed.  Here's more food for thought:\n\nPhotos of Abortions, Including 1st Trimester Abortions:\nhttp://www.cbrinfo.org/Resources/pictures.html\n\nA Four-Minute, Must-See Video on Abortion:\nhttp://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-4-video.html\n\nInformation on All Aspects of Abortion:\nhttp://Abort73.com\n\nPhotos and Facts About Prenatal Development:\nhttp://www.justthefacts.org/clar.asp\nhttp://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-1-medical.html\nhttp://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-2-prenatal.html\nhttp://www.studentsforlife.uct.ac.za/foetal%20dev%20photos.html\nhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm\nhttp://www.lifeissues.org/ultrasound/11weeks.htm\n\nPain Perception in the Unborn:\nhttp://www.advocatesfortheinnocent.com/fetalpain.html\n\nPro-Life Answers to “Pro-Choice” Arguments:\nhttp://www.deathroe.com/Pro-life_Answers/\nhttp://www.pregnantpause.org/abort/choicarg.htm\n\nRape and Abortion:\nhttp://www.deathroe.com/Pro-life_Answers/Answers.cfm?ID=31\nhttp://www.afterabortion.info/Victims/index.htm\nhttp://www.focusonthefamily.com/focusmagazine/sohl/A000000103.cfm\nhttp://www.dakotavoice.com/200611/Guest/20061101_GR.html\nhttp://www.afterabortion.info/PAR/V2/n1/RAPESUM.htm\n\nIs Abortion Ever Necessary to Save the Life of the Mother?\nhttp://www.all.org/article.php?id=10682\nhttp://www.advocatesfortheinnocent.com/motherslife.html\n\nAnd, oh, by the way, the so-called partial birth abortion ban is a scam.  It's not truly a pro-life bill.  Read this:\n\nhttp://www.newswithviews.com/Brownlow/david1.htm
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There was a time when I was pro choice.  I gave my niece money for an abortion and, to this day, I cannot forgive myself.  I really thought that I was a liberal with regard to abortion until I became a part of it.  I hope that I can be forgiven for what I have done.
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not quite the same thing really....although i am in favour of eutahnasia which should be strictly controlled and not  used as an excuse to get rid of people that we feel as a society are no longer able to contribute to our society..i,,m not in favour of the death penalty..you only have to look at the tragic case of Timothy Evans who hanged after being wrongly convicted of murdering his wife and baby daughter..in the end it turned out to be Christie,,what would you do then? you cannot bring back an innocent man from the dead and if this doesn,t convince you then just look at al the miscarriages of justice there have been
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Blingme - Her question was stated correctly. She is essentially trying to determine why states allow abortion if it is illegal to kill a human being. And if a state charges a murderer with two murders for murdering a pregnant woman, what is the exact definition of life. \n\n1) Either a baby is alive and the two murders is correct. In this case, abortion should be illegal; or,\n\n2) A baby is not alive and only one murder should be charged. In this case, abortion would be okay.\n\nShe is pointing out a convenient catch-22 in the abortion debate.\n\nEDIT: bree123 - I do not believe she is calling out the hypocrisy of the double homicide law. She is calling out the hypocrisy of abortion.\n\nAnd citing the ACLU does NOT make me put a lot of trust in your judgment. It is a little like me citing all the evidence the National Right to Life cites proving that life starts at conception. You aren't going to buy that. Any evidence cited should be from a) a disinterested party, or b) a source that gives BOTH sides of the argument - like my initial assessment of her statement above.\n\nSource(s): Debate 101.
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No, They are not pro life, they are really anti abortion,\nIf they were pto-life they wouldn't be executing women and incompetants in Taxes.\n\nWomen your birth control pills are next on their agenda. They say that is a form of abortion. Which it isn't. Hope you can afford LARGE families.\n\nANd yes, they don't want to be called anti-abortion. Now it is pro-life, after they just got 3,000 killed in Iraq, though I can't blame them for that. They usually have been on Bush's side regarding the war however. \n\nI am guessing they changed their name probably so they wouldn't be associated with the murder of MD's at abortion clinics and damaging or blowing them up.\n\nPeople are in favor of choice are pro-choice, not necessarily pro=abortion. I imagine the neocons would like to call them pro-death. I don't think there are a lot of people who favor abortion, they just don't want to see it dropped as an option, especially in cases of rape, sexual abuse of a child or the health of a mother's life. I have never been able to understand the rationalization for having a woman who was raped carry the rapist child to term. I think rape is terrible enough without making someone relive it daily. The same goes if the mothers life is in danger. I cannot imagine sacrificing a woman, who may have other children, who is already alive and breathing. It is beyond my comprhension how someone thinks they can make the choice that a living person, who has done nothing wrong, be given a death sentence. And they say no innocent people has been executed. What do you call that?  If they want to make the choice for themselves, go to it!\n\nOne thing is for sure, all those PRO-Lifers are still cutting programs for women, children, handicapped and elderly. Eighty (80) percent are children.\n\nFigures that they won't put their pocketbook where there mouth is.\n\nI don't use the term Pro-life myself because it is a oxy   Moron!
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Those are all good points for the legislatures to consider but the constitution does not allow the court to simply decide that the death penalty is unwise.  State legislatures decide and then then Court decides if that penalty is barred as "cruel and unusual" punishment but the constitution doesn't preclude state laws that are merely "counterproductive."  so, run for your state legislature and vote to abolish the death penalty in your state.
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To answer your question and to refute the genius who compared captial punishment to abortion:\n\nThe fact is, yes, there have been far too many instances where people have been put to death then later found innocent.  Our judicial system needs to put policies in place that will prevent this from EVER happening.  But generally, if a person, without a doubt, has been convicted of a malicious crime, they should be put to death.  How sane is it to allow someone who raped, tortured and killed a young girl to sit in a jail cell and live off taxpayer money?  If that individual feels someone INNOCENT deserves to die, why should they be allowed to live?  Again, I believe there should be WITHOUT a doubt concrete evidence against a person who is put on death row.\nAnd concerning abortion...unborn babies have not committed heinous crimes.
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No, it's like this: You let it be born, and if it turns out horribly bad you kill it.  Keep the good ones.  Kill off the bad ones.  There is no fallacy or conflict in this thinking.  Kiling a fetus is a different line of reasoning than killing a mass murderer.  You cannot equate the two.  thus, anti-abortion and pro-death penalty are not in conflict.  Two different things entirely.\n\nReligion is not above killing.  More people have been killed in religious conflicts than from any other cause.
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How about just "Hypocrites" for both? The "pro-life" people think life is sacred, and abortion should be banned, but then they turn around and sentence people to die for heinous crimes. But then your "pro-choice" people think it is OK for a woman to kill an unborn child, but don't you dare kill someone who raped and killed an 8-year girl.\n\nBoth sides make no sense to me at all.
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Because some people want it and some people don't.  And none of the politicians who make laws want to get involved.  Too many factors involved.\n\nI'm anti abortion, but have no urge to blow anything up to make my point.
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You can even take this one step further. Most of those same people who are for abortion are also for assisted suicide and euthenasia of terminally ill people, or people who are too old to care for themselves. Many people think that you have to have a certain quality of life in order to deserve to live. Unplanned babies, the sick, the old, and the dying fit into their ideas of those who don't or won't have a quality of life that's productive. Oh yeah, and that includes another group of people...those who are in a coma and are only hooked up to feeding tubes. They have their feeding tubes pulled out, leaving them to starve to death. Many live for several weeks before dying, with the family watching the whole proceedure, in the name of saving money, but claiming they are giving their "loved" one death with dignity. What's so dignified about starvation? They spout off grand speeches about how they can't bear to see them suffer so much. And that their quality of life doesn't exist anymore. Then, they'll turn around and picket in front of a jail, where a convicted killer is ready to get the needle, dying in peace, having just eaten the greatest meal they'd ever had. Go figure. Abortion is just as senseless, with hundreds of couples waiting for years to adopt a baby. I know a few gals who got abortions...not because they were raped...or because it was a health risk to her or the baby...but because it was inconvenient. They were in school. They didn't want their parents to find out (after all, we just know that their parents will KILL them if they find out, right?). It was just easy to think of their baby as a blob of material, with no identity. I've heard people say that the baby isn't really human until they're born. Really? What is that thing inside of a pregnant woman, a fish, a monkey, a figment of their imagination? Have they really seen the amazing pictures of a baby inside of the mom? Looks human to me. I still have the ultrasound of my daughter and she looks like a baby to me. I guess it all depends on what you believe in...whether you believe in defending the defenseless or supporting the evil. No one has ever explained sufficiently to me the up side of abortion. There is none. Everyone loses. What a huge waste of a human life. <*)))><
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To all those saying that abortion is killing an innocent child and the death penalty is killing a murderer, making it justified. \n\nAbortion is not killing a reasoning human being with cognitive skills. Yes, it can potentially become one, however, by using that argument, one can say that by not having sex with your spouse at this very moment, you are wasting innocent eggs and sperm, thus killing potential life. The line can be drawn anywhere. The bottom line is, until the society can provide a safe and harmonious upbringing and support for the potential child, abortion is by all means justified. It is quite easy to be a male in a nice little house with a backyard and a church next door and say that abortion is wrong. But you see, not everyone is in that comfortable position. \n\nAs for the death penalty, haven't I heard some Christian people speak of this "thou shall not kill" deal every now and then? So it is alright to take life as a form of punishment? Revenge, is that what we've scooped down to? As Mr Gandhi put it so eloquently, "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". Not even speaking of the other side of the death penalty, i.e. the victims. At least one person a year is wrongly executed in the United States. At least one. Every year. That's some 10 people's lives you destroy there every year. Think about it. \n\n\n\n\n\nEdit, as a response to comments posted below: \n\nSee, but that's where we differ. I don't see abortion as equal to murder. I just don't, because in my opinion, it's not killing. See my argument above in the second paragraph. You just can't draw a line. Second of all, so if abortion is to be illegal, are YOU willing to take care of the child? Apparently you are. An ideal world is one thing, I too wish there was no need for abortion, but the real world is something different. Let's abolish the REASON for abortion, not abortion itself. \n\nBy the way, in my arguments, I am speaking about abortion where the mother's health is not endangered. If it is, then abortion is justified even in the ideal world. \n\nAs for the death penalty, I am sticking to my argument. The ones that kill for killing are just as bad as the killers. If it is right to murder for murder, then, basically, anyone can murder you, as you support the death penalty, making you co-responsible for a couple of deaths, a lot of them innocents. And then, anyone can murder your murderer. And so on... Killing as a form of punishment is quite the barbaric practice that has no place in the modern world. And if you look at the list of countries that still implement the death penalty, you'll see that I'm quite right on that point.
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I apologize now cause this is gonna be long and more than likely will be added to.\n\nI'm always wondered about this.  I know it's one of those spin things but it's hard to pin this one down.  To use myself as an example, I am Pro-Choice.  I also consider myself Pro-life because I would never ask a woman I got pregnant to have an abortion.  First off, I think I should take the responsibilty for it and carry it through to term even if we don't want it.  (This brings up the debate of it's not my body so I can't choose and I agree, I can't.  But I would hope that a woman I slept with would be willingly to listen to what I have to say about the baby inside her that I helped create. Once Again I hope she would, but it's not my body and thus I cannot choose for her.)\n\nThe reason why I would never want an abortion are two-fold, I'd want to step up to the plate and father that kid.  If we decided not to keep it, then I'd want to give it up for adoption so someone else who can't have a baby for some reason or another can finally have one (I have a friend who cannot get pregnant through normal methods and she wants mroe than anything to be a mother.  Did you know invitro-fertilization is like $4000 a shot?  That doesn't even mean you will get pregnant, it means you have a chance to!)  I think that clarifies my Pro-choice/Pro-life stance.  I also don't believe that I have the right as an EQUAL member of human society, to force my values on others.  I don't consider myself to be any more special than anyone else on the streets.\n\nPeople refer to it as "Pro-Death" because they feel like it needs to be an opposite of the "Pro-life" platform.  It has to be called an opposite to be given a choice is rational while outlawing CHOICE, and thue FREEDOM is not.  I bet the tunes would change if "pro-Life" was refered to instead of "Removal of a right", which is what it really is.  Secondly, has anyone ever been to a pro-death rally?  Of course not, That would be considered Genocide (stopping all births would be an effective method of stopping humanity and thus genocide).  \n\nHere's the funny thing, people who are "Pro-life" also tend to be for the Death Penalty.  How is that Pro-Life?  There IS debate on whether a baby is a human or not and thus a murder, there IS NO debate on whether a prisoner is a human.  Perhaps a foul murdering human, but nonetheless human.  Is that not a murder?\n\nOh one more thing.  I am 100% against partial birth abortions.  That practice disgusts me.  I think it disgusts just about everyone who knows teh method of it.  Regardless, I would not want a law that states you cannot do it.  But here's what i think, you carried it that long, just deliver the baby and give it to someone that wants it.
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Neither party has an "official" stance on abortion, but Democrats are typically more likely to be pro-choice, and Republicans are more likely to be pro-life.\n\nEDIT: \nBoth parties claim to support education, but they go about delivering that support in different ways.