What did Noah's son in Genesis 9:20-26 and why do was his punishment was so severe?
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Noah's son Ham found Noah, passed out from drunkeness, lying naked inside a tent.  This is disgraceful because (1) Noah was drunk and (2) he was naked, which was considered to be immodest and immoral.  Ham then went outside the tent and found his two brothers, Shem and Japheth, and told them what happened to their father.  Instead of gossiping and saying negative things about their father, they walked backwards into the tent (so that they would not disgrace their father  by seeing his nakedness) and covered him with a blanket. When Noah awoke and discovered what had happened, he cursed Canaan, the son of Ham that betrayed him.  He cursed Canaan and his descendants to be the slaves of Shem and Japheth and their descendants.
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This actually happened, in the Bible there's a story about a man named Abraham and God asked him to kill his only son Isaac. And in Abraham's heart he was going to go through with it, he was going to kill his son because God told him to do it, but at the last second an angel appeared and told  Abraham to stop and instead of having to kill his son, God sent an animal instead. So God gave Abraham his son back. \n\nI would hope that I would have the faith and courage Abraham had, if God asked me to do this.
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Why? Because the laws in the bible were not written by children. The bible even recomends killing children.\n\nWhoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)\nAll who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)\n\nOf course this is not suprising. \nThe bible recomends violence in many situations.\n\nA man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)\nIf a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)\nA priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)\nThey entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)\nSuppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)\netc. etc. etc.\n\nWhy is this?\nIs god not supposed to be loving?\n\n"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel."(Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)\n\nThis quote, makes it fairly obvious in my opinion, that religion was nothing more than a manipulating tool. \nThat is why you need not be suprised by the immorality of the bible.
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I can't help responding because we are sons of God, His children.\n\nHeb.2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also Himself likewise took part of the same; that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; \n\nNow does that say children? This is the first verse I could think of, there are probably more.
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I thik that you may find that you are correct in your assumption.  I don't think it will validate the whole Bible... unless Noah carved his name in the boat!!  But I am with you on the Epic of Gilgamish.
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Read Numbers 16.  God opened the ground and swallowed Korah, his followers and their families.  He also sent fire from the sky to kill the rest of the 250.  You would think the rest of the Israelites learned their lesson...but they complained and whined the very next day and God sent a plague of death sweeping across the camps until Aaron atoned for their sins.
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I am not aware of any passage stating that God dealt with Elisha about this incident.\nAs far as I can tell, Elisha cursed them in the Name of the Lord, and God is the one who sent the bears. There is no indication that Elisha called the bears down upon them, merely that He spoke a curse (removal of God's protection and blessing), and God is the one who decided how the curse would be fulfilled.\n\nIn my study of this passage, I have concluded that the "children" refered to here are (by other uses of the same Hebrew word) probably young men, and the phrase "Go up, thou baldy" means that they rejected Elisha's ministry as being from God. I read this as an Old Testament parallel of what Jesus refered to as the unpardonable sin in  Matthew 12:31-32.
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There is a passage in the Bible that says that the sins of the fathers will be visited upon the children. I don't think that it means that in a literal sense God will punish children for their parents' wrongdoing. Rather, I think it means that the actions of the parents will have consequences that will affect the children.
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Here are some other gems for you(posted these in another thread) \n\nProof of the 'love' of God in the bible\n\n"God" slaughtered innocent babies because of Pharaoh's stubbornness: "At midnight the Lord struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well.” (Exod. 12:29)\n\n"God" had babies dashed to pieces and pregnant women ripped open: "The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open." (Hosea 13:16)\n\n"God" wanted children to be murdered as human sacrifices: "I let them become defiled through their gifts - the sacrifice of every firstborn - that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the Lord.” (Ezek. 20:26)\n\n"God" threatened to have innocent children be devoured by wild animals: “I will send wild animals against you, and they will rob you of your children, destroy your cattle and make you so few in number that your roads will be deserted.” (Lev. 26:22)\n\n"God" threatened to have children cannibalized: "If in spite of this you still do not listen to me but continue to be hostile toward me, then in my anger I will be hostile toward you, and I myself will punish you for your sins seven times over. You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters.” (Lev. 26:27-29)\n\n"God" ordered the genocide of women, children and babies: "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”” (1 Sam. 15:2-3)\n\n"God" aborted fetuses and murdered children in answer to the prophet Hosea's prayer: "Give them, O Lord – what will you give them? Give them wombs that miscarry .... Ephraim is blighted, their root is withered, they yield no fruit. Even if they bear children, I will slay their cherished offspring." (Hosea 9:14-16)\n\n"God" murdered a baby because of David's adultery: “Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan replied, "The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. But because by doing this you have made the enemies of the Lord show utter contempt, the son born to you will die." (2 Sam. 12:13-14)\n\n"God" ordered people to kill their brothers, friends and neighbors: “Then he said to them, "This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.'" (Exod. 32:27
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God allowed Abraham's son to live.  This event is very important as it showed Abraham's faith and obedience to the one true God and was a precursor of events to come.  God knew that Abraham would  obey Him.  Fast forward to the time of Jesus.  God willingly put Himself  in the exact same position as Abraham .  His Son became the sacrifice so that all people could obtain forgiveness of sins, through Him.  The difference is; God allowed Abraham's son to live, but His own Son He allowed to be scourged and beaten and killed.  Not for His own well being, but  for all His children so that they might live.  Jesus was our Lamb, who was led to the slaughter, who overcame death and lives forevermore.\n\nDo you not understand this?\n\nedit**\nThis is the connection we are to draw from this event in history:  It's about sacrifice, faith, obedience, love, mercy, and the forgiveness of sins.\n Abraham and Isaac\n God and Jesus
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Because someone told Adam and Eve they were naked!\n\nBereshit - Genesis vs.\n24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh.\n\n25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.\n\nthen >>>\nBereshit - Genesis\nChapter 3\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which HaShem G-d had made. And he said unto the woman: 'Yea, hath G-d said: Ye shall not eat of any tree of the garden?'\n\n2 And the woman said unto the serpent: 'Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat;\n\n3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, G-d hath said: Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.'\n\n4 And the serpent said unto the woman: 'Ye shall not surely die;\n\n5 for G-d doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as G-d, knowing good and evil.'\n\n6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat; and she gave also unto her husband with her, and he did eat.\n\n7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig-leaves together, and made themselves girdles.\n\n8 And they heard the voice of HaShem G-d walking in the garden toward the cool of the day; and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of HaShem G-d amongst the trees of the garden.\n\n9 And HaShem G-d called unto the man, and said unto him: 'Where art thou?'\n\n10 And he said: 'I heard Thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.'\n\n11 And He said: 'Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?'
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Read closer. Every time it says that God hardened Pharaoh's heart it is preceded by "Pharaoh hardened his heart."\n\nGod was confirming the choice of hardness that Pharaoh was making. We all have free will or sovereignty over our own hearts. If we choose to be soft and open to God, God responds by making us more that way. But if we determine to harden our hearts God reluctantly allows us to have our way.\n\nGod's ways are much higher than ours, perfect in every way. He knows all things and sees all things. God's dealings with Pharaoh were for a specific purpose, though we may not see it today. One thing to consider though is that God was giving Pharaoh an opportunity to change his mind and be saved. You would think that after 9 miracles Pharaoh would wake up and see the truth. It is God's patience that allowed Pharaoh so many opportunities to change His mind.\n\nGod warns us about sin, not because He is waiting to punish us but because He knows that sin is dangerous and deadly and wants to save us the pain and death. Sin isn't bad/dangerous because God says it is, God says it's sin because it is bad/dangerous. Much like how I would tell my 2 year old that an electric socket is to be avoided. I know that there is a dangerous consequence if she plays with that socket, so it is with God and sin.
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Didn't he build the ark before the rains came?\n\nHere is a suggestion:\n\nOnce upon a time they say, they say\nNoah built a big ark\nFor family, friends, and animal pairs.\n\nAnd the rains came down day after day\nAnd he sailed away in the dark\nTil the day he saw land everywhere.
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Ham married before the Flood. Along with his wife, his father and mother, and his two brothers and their wives, he survived the Flood. (Ge 6:18; 7:13; 8:15, 16, 18; 1Pe 3:19, 20) Ham’s sons were born after the Flood.\n\nSometime later he became involved in an incident that brought a curse on his son Canaan. Noah had become intoxicated with wine and had uncovered himself in his tent. Ham saw his father’s nakedness, and instead of showing the proper respect for Noah, the family head and the servant and prophet whom God had made an instrument in the preservation of the human race, Ham told his two brothers of his discovery. Shem and Japheth exhibited the proper respect by walking backwards with a mantle to cover Noah so that they would not bring reproach by looking on their father’s nakedness. Noah, on awakening, uttered a curse, not on Ham, but on Ham’s son Canaan. In the accompanying blessing of Shem, which included a blessing for Japheth, Ham was passed over and ignored; only Canaan was mentioned as cursed and was prophetically foretold to become a slave to Shem and Japheth.—Ge 9:20-27.\n\nWhy did Noah curse Canaan when Ham was the offender?\n\nVery likely Canaan was guilty of some abuse or perversion against the person of his grandfather Noah, and Ham witnessed this without interfering. Instead, Noah’s son Ham appears to have spread the story, whereas Shem and Japheth acted to cover their father. Therefore, they were blessed, the likely perpetrator Canaan was cursed, and the bystander and talebearer Ham suffered through the shame brought upon his offspring. Although the Scriptures do not provide all the details, the important point is that Jehovah caused Noah to utter the prophecy and God brought about its fulfillment when the Canaanites who were not destroyed by the Israelites were put under servitude to those descendants of Shem.—Joshua 9:23; 1 Kings 9:21.
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I DID NOT FIND ONE [SOME YEARS AGO], SO HERE IS MINE AS THIS KIND OF INFORMATION AND BIBLE TIME LINE IS WHAT I HAVE TO KNOW AS I DO BELIEVE THE AUTHORS [GOD AND JESUS], OF THE BIBLE KNOWS IT ALL AND CAN GIVE US WHAT HE WANTS US TO KNOW.\n\n01. Enoch born 622 after Adam lived 365 years died 987 and Adam had died in 930.\n02. Noah born 1056 after Adam lived 600 = 1656 to come through flood and 350 after the flood to 2006 after Adam.\nGen.7:6; 9:28,29;\n03. Shem born 1558, age 100 two years after the flood lived another 500 years to die  2158 after Adam and 25 years to: 04. Abraham born 2008 dies age 175 in 2183 after Adam.\nGen.25:7;\n05. Isaac born 2108 died age 180 in 2288 after Adam.\nGen.35:28,29;\n05. Jacob born when Isaac is age 60 in 2168 is age 147 at death after 17 years in Egypt where Son Joseph at his death is age 57. Gen.47:9,28;\n06. Joseph born when Jacob is age 90 in 2258 is age 110 at death in Gen.50:26; this ends the book of Genesis.\n07. Job born 2293 is age 140 at death and age 75 to 140 after death of Joseph to be the most upright man on earth.\nJob 2:1-4; he died the year Moses is born.\n08. Moses 2433-40-2473-40-2513 Exodus and 2553 dies at age\n120 Deut.34:7,10;\n09. Deborah [and all the judges down to Samuel, Saul and]:\n10. Samuel born 2883 after Adam, dies at age 100 = 2983.\n11. David born 2959 after Adam died at age 70 = 3029.\n12. Solomon is king 4th year 480th year after death of Moses\nhe begans the temple 1KI.6:1; in the year 3033 + 36 years to his death in 3069. He was born when David was age 41 in the year 3000 after Adam, he died at age 69 = 3069.\n3069 + 391 years of Judah kings and 19 prophets:\n3069 + {17-3-41-23-8-1-6-40-29-52-16-16-29-55-2-31-11-11=]\n391 = 3460 after Adam and 606 years to Jesus in Rome #6.\n\n3460 to 40. Daniel, 41. Jeremiah and 42. Ezekiel and the\nwhole Promised Land is captive to Babylon #3 Empire to Jesus\nwill come as Daniel 9:24-27; tells Matt.4:1-11[Satan and Jesus];\nRevelations 17:1-6,10-14[ #1 to #6 Satan's world that Jesus came into in #6 and John was on Patmos to write Revelations\nin #6, we will get the bible near the end of #7, we did and\nRev.12:6-7-11,12[Dan.12:1-13; Matt.24:3,14,15]; begans in the 8th where Jesus second coming will be].\n\nAfter Daniel 3460 + 70 = 3530 to Cyrus in #4 as told by Isaiah 44:28; 45:1; about 3352 after Adam. Isaiah was in Assyria #2 of Rev.17:1-14[Satan's world of Empires];\n\nEzra, Nehemiah, Mordecia, Haggai, Zechariah are after Daniel to about 450 years before Jesus and Jerusalem and the temple are rebuilt. Matt.1:1-17; After Cyrus in #4 and the others, Greece will be #5 and 14 generations are from Babylon #3 to Jesus in Rome #6.\n\nI hope this will help you pull your info together on the prophets.
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This difference between now and in Noah's day is now we have Jesus.\nSo as bad as things are getting now. We have hope.
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How do you explain anyone?  I finally found it.. Ha that was the test to see if I could found it.  I have heard two ideas of this one was the sons of God were those following God and Daughters of men, people that didn't follow God.  He normally forbids his children to go with un-believers.\nThe other idea was that sons of God became fallen angels or spirit beings.  Anyway this caused giants to be born.  \nYou will note the next verse that wickedness was great, which gives this the idea of being a wicked thing.  So whatever it was, the wickedness was everywhere and no one was caring anything about God except Noah.\nGenesis 6:4,5\nanother idea:\nOne person on this forum in the night claims that she is having a baby from a demon master, and by her words her baby is a demon.  How this kind of thing can happen exactly, I don't know, I am just reporting what she has said.