Why do military recruiters lie?
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This is a problem that has occured for centuries the world over.  I have known many recruiters who have not been as honest as they should be and I have known of recruiters who have outright lied to people.  I also know that not all military recruiters lie.  Part of the reason that recruiters bend the thruth or even straight-up lie is because their careers depend upon it.  \n\nNo service (Air Force, Army, Coast Guard, Marines or Navy) trains someone to be a recruiter from the day the join the military.  Instead, after someone has served in the military for 4 or more years, they can leave their current job to become a recruiter or as with many people I have known, be told they will now be a recruiter whether they like it or not.  This means you have recruiters who have been anything from a tank driver to a computer operator or from working on a flight deck to working in the desert in 130 degree heat.  Once these people become recruiters, they leave their old job and all of that knowledge behind for as long as they remain a recruiter.  Now their WHOLE job is to get people to enlist in the military.  If they don't get people to enlist, they will receive bad performance ratings and can be reprimanded for not getting enough people to enlist.  I have known people who have been demoted for not meeting quotes, which means they lose a stripe and the pay associated with that stripe.  No recruiter receives bonus money for getting more people to join up.  They may be promoted faster or receive special recognition, but there are no programs in place to give money to recruiters who beat their goal.\n\nSO what should you do when you see a recruiter?  As someone already posted, get EVERYTHING in writing.  I have been serving in the military for 15 years and love every minute of it.  It can been a very rewarding and educating experience, just make sure you understand everything you are signing up to do.  Get your training and job in writing.  If it is in a contract that you will be trained and working in a certain field, the military cannot change it without your consent.  Some services may guaranty you to be TRAINED in a certain field but will not guaranty that you will be WORKING in that carrer field (example would be the Army motto of: Soldier First).  You may be trained to repair multi-million dollar helicopters, but end up in a foxhole with a gun.  GET IT IN WRITING!!! I hope this post was helpful.
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ive heard that if you are an officer you had to request discharge in writing. in your case go down with a bunch of friends say ,"give me the papers" and dont say anything else. call ahead make sure they have the papers and have them identify the papers while your on the phone [ dd214, whatever,etc] if you didnt sign anything to reserve a job i think its bs... anyway i enlisted way back in '66 and ever since i've thought recruiters are a bunch of low life blood sucking cowards... especially the young ones who should be out there doing the fighting if thats what they believe in ... and i dont care if they already did 2-3 toures ..instead of "hustelling" young impressionable children into  a possition where they may have to kill for a living.. and live [ if they're luck] with it for the rest of their lives... hey if you want i'll go with you to sign the papers! they piss me off lieing punk cowards that they are .they used to get paid commision .. i dont know about now.. if you think about it they are the worst kind of child molesters!
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They don't *usually* check, but they can if they get suspicious.  More likely, they get a sense from the rest of the application about whether what you are saying makes sense.  So, if you are running D's in math and Science and you claim to be president of the Chemistry club, it is just going to stick out like a sore thumb.  Similarly, if you claim to be in the orchestra, but you don't mention studying an instrument, that's going to look odd.  And of course, the most obvious situation occurs when they have two applicants, both of whom say that they are president of the chess club, the yearbook, or whatever.\n\nIn addition, most colleges have lots of admissions officers, and each one specializes in certain cities and towns.  So, after a while, they get a sense of what rings true and what doesn't.  If they know that the chorus at your school frequently goes to the state championships, they will figure that anyone who claims to be in chorus must be very serious about it.  That will show up in other parts of the application. (Are you taking advanced courses in music?  Do you mention a private music instructor? That sort of thing.)\n\nSo, you might be able to get away with a lie, but there is a good chance they will catch it.  And if they do, you are dead meat.  NO college will touch you if you are caught  doing something dishonest on the application.  (You have to swear that the application is true.)\n\nGood luck!!
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Because you're lying. ;)
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Because a lie is easier to accept.  When we ask for the truth most times what we are asking for is for you to agree with what we are asking about.  For example: Do you like my new dress?  If you don't like it, are you going to tell me or are you going to find something about the dress that you can mention.  "That's a pretty shade of blue."  "I like the sleeves."\n\nWe don't want to hear what you are thinking..."My goodness, where did she find that ugly thing?  It does nothing for her."\n\nThese kinds of social lies are true in any area of our lives.  If I am married to a bum, do I want you to keep telling me that?  No.  I know he's a bum but I don't want you to continue to tell me you recognize that I had bad taste in picking a man.\n\nThe lie strokes our egos.  The truth often hurts.
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Do you know i am so overjoyed that my answers to your questions will never be picked for best as they would actually be an insult. \nI much rather have my say about your questions for two points. \nBut anyway on with the answer.\nI could not see the day that the Military would drop its standards for recruiting in to-days modern Military. \nIf anything i would personally say its Become a lot Higher, The world advances in technology and so does the Military. I can not comment on the Mt,Clemens recruiting. \nLower recruiting figours could also have some thing to do with the Higher Standards for which the Military are setting nowadays. \nThat seems to show a lower recruiting figour than it should. \nI don't think the recruiters would get away with lie-ing to a new recruit. \nWell anyone with a bit of common sense knows that when you join the Military you would have no choice in where YOU would like to go and live, or If you would end up in a nice easy job using Computers. \nYour last part of your question is based on your Original Terrorist Propaganda questions you have asked before. \nso it is not worthy of an answer.\nfrom me.
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Because you are complete idiot. Even when I was 13 and the pathetic recruiters came to the high school, I knew it would be a bad choice. I did not need to expose myself to the nonsense to realize that the whole system is a farce. I mean why are they going to teach me to fire a gun for? Ummmm.... obviously to make someone die. Not a good thing. Why are they offering me money for? There must be other get rich quick plans out there. Not a good thing. Why am I going to be fighting for anyways? Unintellegent testosterone fueled human wastes say so. \nAs I got older they tell me to support the troops. I have to, they take out an absurd amount of money from my hard earned check a week. Then I read and see that former service personell kill their kids, wife, themselves and I think "Hey, I want my money back, with the highest amount of interest compounded daily as allowed by the law(that I paid for as well to pass). Then I hear you stupid chumps complain about your decision and I say to you- "Where is my money?"
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I think it depends on an individuals personality.  Some lie because they may be afraid of the other persons/peoples reaction.  Maybe the fear of being disliked.  Others may lie and give quick answers cause they don't feel like explaining themselves or the whole story.  I think alot of people do it even unintentionally and it becomes a habit.
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It's a bit fishy. Lots of questions haven't been answered. I'd say lying :)
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People lie about military service more than you might guess, especially if it involves a dangerous situation. I was in the Navy for six years and did nothing especially astounding or heroic. I did learn enough about the military and particularly the Navy to be able to spot a liar. \n\nI can tell you about two guys that both claim to have been SEALS and are full of it. Usually these guys will say something like, "I was in a very secret group and there are no records". This is crapola. The Navy (and every branch) keeps meticulous records of your service time even if a particular person is involved in something secret. They may not say where a person was a at a particular time but your service IS recorded.\n\nI want to state again that I was just a regular sailor and no commando or "operator" but I have been among them. I've seen how they train and prepare and it's a crime that people want to "play army" and try to boost their reputation off of the sweat of these men.\n\nIf anyone starts in on their service ask them what their "M.O.S." was. (It means "military occupational specialty" or what they were trained to do). If they look at you blankly then they are full of it. It's one of the first terms you learn as it determines the course of your military career. There are NO secret MOS's. Your husband can probably tell you a lot more about his branch of service as he is probably not a Navy man.\n\nI agree that it is a disgrace. My best wishes go out to your family and your husband. Please give my personal thanks to your husband for serving our country. I'm too old now to return to active service but will have him in my prayers. A brotherhood of servicemen await his return. God speed.
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You have to have been in the military to get a DD 214.  You can't just request one and they give you a blank one.  We already have enough fakers out there.
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I have several problems with your answer: \nYour premise is that we (Soldiers) are robots who accept "Bullshit" it a patent lie.\n\nAs a matter of fact, you sound just like EVERY other "Anti-war" activist I have seen.     \n\n"The only reason one would ever join the army is for lack of knowledge."  Yet ANOTHER "soldiers are just too stupid" lie told.  Not winning any honesty points there either.\n\n"Are soldiers conditioned to be killing machines or hippies?"  Actually we are professionals with a high sense of morality alien to most people.  We kill when necessary, but only when we have to.  There is a concept known as the "3 block war".  In one street, you are fighting for you life and trying to keep homicide bombers away from civilian markets.  The next street, and I do mean 1 city block over, you are building a school.  And the last street, you are training local police and military to not be a dictators henchmen bent on repressing their own people.  You continue to lose points with your ignorance and hate.\n\n"They are soldiers. They are made to believe what they are told. \nThey have the minds of soldiers. They cannot doubt themselves for a moment, right and wrong is useless...They are too afraid to take time to think, not even for the sake honor"  \n\nYou sir are a fool if you believe this line of thought.  The above is so full of fallacies, I do not know where to start.  "Right or Wrong" is paramount to our thought process.  "Afraid to think"?!?  Maybe your line of "reason" could apply to a North Korean soldier who has no knowledge of the outside world and is threatened with death for disobeying the "Dear Leader", but not a US Soldier.  Obviously, you have not talked to many soldiers or officers.  We debate issues constantly, just like any other professional organizations.  Soldiers at all levels contribute.  Most US soldiers (around 70%) either have college degree(s), or are very close to getting them.  We research issues, find the truth, and then act on it.\n\nSo, aside from spreading ignorance and lies, why repost this?  Oh, that’s right, a lie told often enough becomes the “truth”.  Your “Two Minutes Hate” is up, please stop “quacking”.
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When without misleading someone too much they are prevented from getting hurt by a lie. Sometimes though honesty is the best policy. It depends on the person/situation.
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People lie for numerous reason, however, the most common are:\n1)   To avoid getting in to trouble.\n2)   To avoid hurting people's feelings.\n3)   To make themselves seem more interesting.\n4)   Because they have a mental problem.\n5)   To hide something about themselves for fear that other people might judge them.\n6)   Because they get a thrill at the drama and/or attention that is created when the other person catches them in a lie.\n7)   Because the truth is hard to face,so, it is easier to try to live a lie.\n8)   Because they feel justified in lying because someone asked about something that was none of their business in the first place.
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In truth, we are usually set up to fail! \n\nNow calm down ladies! I'm not defending the male species as a whole! Most of us are just dogs.\n\nMen lie for a variety of reasons, but the most common is to protect the one that they are lying to. I know that this sounds incredulous, but is th truth!
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It is true, many recruits go to the military instead of college. But Kerry's statement implies more than just that.\n\nKerry's "joke" implied that people in the military are the ones who didn't study, who didn't work hard, and who didn't try to be smart. Basically, he implied that the military is the dumping ground or the graveyard of young failures; that it's where you get "stuck" if you don't do the right things. That is NOT true.\n\nThere are a lot of reasons a person might CHOOSE to go to the military instead of college. They may be very smart, but not have an interest in higher education at that point in their life. They may be joining the military to PAY for college. They may have interrupted their education because they felt the need to serve their country in a time of war. \n\nI've served in the military, and I'll be the first to admit that a lot of losers will try to join to get a guaranteed paycheck and a place to live. But they do not represent the majority of the men and women serving in the Armed Forces, as Kerry's "joke" implied.
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The true is not simple.\n\nSometimes we lie because it is uncontrolable. If I want   impress my date with subtle things. I don't lie much. That is not a lie. When I lie to make myself look good is usually when I stretch the truth a little. Example: I will say I am graduating soon, but in reality I still have a few semesters to go. \n\nI do it to not make myself look bad. To me, it is almost like there is a light switch when talking to someone. Say something they don't like and the light turns off and you are in the dark. If you say something that make you look good, the light turns on. I think that women are careful listeners. They are examining our every word and move. I don't want to scare anyone away. \n\nI know lying is not good, but it really does help a guy to have a chance. For some, if all they told was the truth, they will not get any further than hello. \n\nNow let's talk about somthing close to lying. How about makeup and plastic surgery. I compare these two as lying and literally stretching the truth.