this scientist was a polish monk,in his system,all the planets,including the Earth revolve around the sun.\n\n\n-i just wanted to know if there are people interested about scientists and science....\n\n...because i love science and its history.^^,)
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Copernicus - his theory was that the sun is the centre of the unoiverse and that all other heavenly bodies revolve around it
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Do a search for Edgar Cayce, he gives a very detailed info. Below is some info about Edagr Cayce from a reponse I gave to a different group.\n\nHello, I know some people that as you, are confused about  religion. I being a man of science have struggled with this for many years . I have been carring on a forum with other science guys about this topic and I thought you might want to look over my last response. If direction is what you require, check this out. Do a search for Edgar Cayce and try getting some of his material. After going over his stuff I had to change may opinion, no matter how smart I thought I was, the proof is too strong. Just look over it and make your own decision about which path to take.\n\n\nHey guys I want to clarify about my email concerning 12-21-2012. \n\nA lot of you thought I was talking about the end of the world. After I looked at what I wrote I guess it could be viewed as that but that is not what I meant. \n \nThe message was actually about science proving what has been predicted. \n\nIf you looked at the stuff in the email you will see that all these different entities have foretold of a major event that they say will happen in 2012.\n\nNOW, If you look at the stuff on the NASA website you can see everything that was predicted beginning to unfold.\n\n I don't think it will be the end of the world but it is kind of amazing that these profits all said 2012 and that it would be a pole shift, force shift, ect. \n\nNOW NASA is saying the same thing, that planet Earth maybe facing a pole shift in 2012.\n\n If this happens then that would be very bad. We are talking about tidal waves, volcanoes, earthquakes. Worst of all from what they are saying, this will knock out all computer chips. \n\nWhat is even more interesting is that what Edgar Cayce says about this. He is the world’s most accurate profit. \n\nFrom the scientific studies of him and by his own account and observations all his predictions did not come from him. He actually knew nothing of what he said because he said it in his SLEEP. He would talk in his sleep when he was asked a question and he would wake up and know nothing about what he said or what he was asked.\n\n Actually he could not have known anything about what he said because he only had a 2nd grade education.\n\n When he was asked in his sleep where this information came from he answered that it was coming from his soul. \n\nThe scientists that studied him called it his subconscious\n\nAny how, he gave very detailed and accurate info about anything you asked him in his sleep from where to find a lost watch to the purpose of life. \n\nHe said very interesting things that only strengthen and prove the existence of GOD.\n He also described how every GOD based religion fit together and that every single person is linked, related by the soul or God’s energy. \n\nHe gave 14,000 readings. Most all of them have been documented, studied and verified as true.\n\n He said things that no one could know like for example, \nhe said that the Pyramids were built in 10,000 b.c. instead of  200 b.c. \nHistorians always say that the pyramids were built by the Egyptians but in 10,000 b.c the Egyptians were not around.\n\n He was asked for proof this and he said that the pyramids were constructed to point and line up directly with the three stars in the constellation of Orion’s belt. Just recently by way of computers scientists have found this to be true but only if you set the computer program to show the sky over the pyramids in the time of 10,000 b.c.\n\n He also said that a great hall of records of these very ancient people that were way more advanced then us \n(people that built the pyramids) was hidden under the left foot of the great Sphinx (The Half Man Half Cat Statue). Just recently sound wave technology has proven that there is indeed a camber under that foot but they can’t get to it because they will have to destroy the statue. \n\nHe described many surgical procedures about ho
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Sadly, this e-mail is fake, and gives a bad name to christianity everywhere.\n\nFirstly, a computer program does not have access to history, only to the pre-programmed patterns which scientists feed it. If they were to measure BACKWARDS in time, there would be no way for a computer program to know that the sun stopped a day. \n\nSecondly, we would not need to know the future position of the sun, moon, or planets for satellites, because satellites orbit high in the Earths atmosphere and do not hurtle through deep space.\n\nThirdly, individual space crafts have their own paths researched and planned before launch, not based off a database compiled by other scientists. There is far too many variables in the universe to plan ahead more than a few months, much less over 100 years to 1000 years.\n\nFurthermore, there would be no reason to look at the positions in history, though I have already shown that a computer program could not reflect any unusual circumstances.\n\nFinally, the sun doesn't move. This program was supposedly tracking the position of the sun, but earth rotates the sun, not the other way around. Obviously the author was more concerned with making gullible people believe his version of religion than sticking to science.\n\nAlthough this is shameful to the religion, it neither proves nor disproves it.
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I also fail to see the correlation.  But this is definitely not the first time something like this has happened.  When we discovered the Earth was round or that it evolved around the Sun, the Church was afraid these discoveries somehow threatened the faith of Christ's followers.  They seem, however, unshaken.  I suppose it has something to do with God being placed into every "unknown."  So when science answers our question, God seems to become unnecessary.
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Look up "the nebular hypothesis".  you also are confusing the Milky Way (a disk shaped system of a hundred billion stars or so of which our sun is a part) and the Solar System (our sun and its surrounding planets and other assorted detritus.)\n\nhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_nebula
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I think you were watching a sci-fi show, maybe artist's conceptions of planets in other systems. We can confirm that the other planets exist by watching for gravitational anomolies but our tech isn't up to the task.
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I'd say Galileo was a victim of the ignorant Catholic church, not a victim of his own research...although he did harm his eyes by looking at the sun through his telescope without any kind of filter :)\n\nNewton did experiments in optics on his own eyes, sometimes by sticking needles into them.  He had cataracts and other eye problems later on, almost certainly caused by his experiments.  He also went a bit mad later in life, and samples of his hair taken a few years ago showed high levels of lead in his system -- a result of his alchemical experiments.  It almost certainly hastened his death.\n\nJoseph Priestly, who "discovered" oxygen, used to put on a mask to breath the "vapors" of various gases, some of which were highly toxic...he passed out numerous times and nearly killed himself quite a few times.\n\nThere are a lot more -- do a web search and you'll find a bunch.
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The religious answer would be that God created the sun and Adam discovered it. It certainly was not discovered by Galileo, that is just silly.\n\nThe scientific answer would be that it has been known since prehistoric times and was not discovered by any one person.
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Von Daniken had some interesting theories.  While I do not believe specifically what he wrote, I do believe that we have been visited by extra-terrestials over the centuries.
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Very good.  You are close to the truth.\n\nSpace alternately expands and contracts over a two billion year cycle.\n\nWe are now nearing the end of the expansionary phase.  So all the scientists on primitive planets hypothesize a big bang and talk about red shift.\n\nIn the following phase, scientists on other primitive planets will hypotehsize a fiery, incandescent end in the middle of everything and talk a lot about blue shifts.\n\nThe reasons for this have to do with the benefits of dynamic equilibrium.  Static would not work.  Apparently God already knows about this, but so do some physicists.\n\nSoem Dutch guy named DeSitter was also close, I have heard.
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erm well maby. i wached this thing that there is this other planet what they found and they think there is flying wales on it!!! hahahah dunno weather this is true but yano!!! lol!!
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It's not considered a *formal* science even though Astronomy heavily factors into how it is used. It is considered more of an *art* because psychological characteristics and patterns are applied to certain planetary positions. This is why some people think its BS.\nBut I'm an Aquarian, and like you very intelligent and curious and open-minded about the world around us, so look into it further. You won't be disappointed.
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In ancient Greece it was already accepted. Probably much earlier in Egypt and or in the Persian area. Maybe even 20 000,30 000, 40 0000 + years earlier. But, since there was no paper or standardized language until recently in our history. It was not recorded.  From what I've read. Either,Aristarchus  in Greece already theorized that the Earth revolves around the Sun. You're asking when the Heliocentric hypothesis was accepted. It's still not accepted by some today. Copernicus never made this discovery himself. He just learned about it when he went to study in Italy. He found a text in a library. It was a book form Ancient Greek. Then, he just re wrote it to Latin. The Greeks got a lot of their knowledge from the Egyptians and vice versa.
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Actually I believe Carl Sagan might best be described as a publicist of Astronomy and extra terrestrial life. And of course he was an astronomer of some note. However, his fame comes principly from three sources. 1) his Cosmos series on PBS, which was an outstanding presentation of cosmology for the masses. 2) his association with SETI (search of estraterrestrial intellegence). 3)He was one of the first to propose global warming.  I am not sure that one could call him an inventive scientist in that he did not invent things.  However, many of his insites into planitary astronomy later proved correct. \n\n  On the other hand Asimov is a noted writer of science fiction. My favorite being The Gods Themselves. I do not think that the two are comparable. \n\nVelikovsky wrote a book that drew a lot of popular interest based on its hypothesis.  It is not really based on science and it is not science fiction either.
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Yes, I agree: They were scientists (most of them, I mean) because they experimented and documented their experiments.\nThey achieved knowledge, which is the ultimate philosopher stone.
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There is a wonderful website I am attaching much of the contents.  Remember this is why Gallileo went on trial.  Columbus was almost denied money because the bible was of course correct.  Columbus was able to find a passage in the Apocrypha that says the Earth is a sphere and that is why he went to the New World.  This includes flatness, geocentrism, solar movement, the blue stuff above us (the ceiling often translated as the firmament literally the arched vault(as in object like the Romans built) in Hebrew), Earth stability and so on.  The shape of the Earth is about 1/5th of the way down.\n\nThe mobility of the sun\nThe most important biblical quote supporting a geocentric universe can be found in the Book of Joshua. This will be used as the starting point for our scriptural cosmology.\n\nJoshua 10:12-13\nThen spoke Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the men of Israel; and he said in the sight of Israel, "Sun, stand thou still at Gibeon, and thou Moon in the valley of Aijalon." And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stayed in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.\n\nThe miracle of Joshua appears again as a reference in The Book of Habakkuk.\n\nHabakkuk 3:11\nThe sun and moon stood still in their habitation at the light of thine arrows as they sped, at the flash of thy glittering spear.\n\nThe evidence in support of a geocentric model is overwhelming here. Joshua commanded the sun to stand still. He did not order the earth to cease rotating nor did he qualify his statement with the divine knowledge that the sun was merely made to appear stationary. The sun was commanded to stand still because it is the sun that moves. Descriptions of its motion can be rather poetic.\n\nPsalms 19:4-6\nyet their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes forth like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and like a strong man runs his course with joy. Its rising is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the end of them; and there is nothing hid from its heat.\n\nEcclesiastes 1:5\nThe sun rises and the sun goes down, and hastens to the place where it rises.\n\nThe stability of the earth\nOn the other side of the geocentric coin, if the sun moves then the earth must not move. There are a few passages which more-or-less forbid the motion of the earth.\n\n1 Chronicles 16:30\ntremble before him, all earth; yea, the world stands firm, never to be moved.\n\nPsalms 93:1\nThe Lord reigns; he is robbed in majesty; the lord is robbed, he is girded with strength. Yea, the world is established; it shall never be moved.\n\nPsalms 96:10\nSay among the nations, "The Lord reigns! Yea, the world is established, it shall never be moved; he will judge the peoples with equity."\n\nIn addition, the notion of an earth with a "foundation" is quite common. This leads one to conclude that the earth is quite stable.\n\n2 Samuel 22:16\nThen the channels of the sea were seen, the foundations of the world were laid bare, at the rebuke of the Lord at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.\n\nPsalms 18:15\nThen the channels of the sea were seen, and the foundations of the world were laid bare, at thy rebuke, O Lord, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils.\n\nPsalms 102:25\nOf old thou didst lay the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of thy hands.\n\nProverbs 8:27-29\nWhen he established the heavens, I was there, when he drew a circle on the face of the deep, when he made firm the skies above, when he established the fountains of the deep, when he assigned to the sea its limit, so that the waters might not transgress his command, when he marked out the foundations of the earth,\n\nIsaiah 48:13\nMy hand laid out the foundation of the earth, and my right hand s
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I have read several books and internet documentation on this interesting subject. IT makes a good story, but it is just that, a story!! The critics of this report are quick to point out that the anthropologists who reported this information,  Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen, stated that they recorded this knowledge of the Dogon people in the 1930s (which can not be verified) and published it AFTER they left the tribe in 1956 and even then it was not widely publicised until Robert Temple took up the subject in 1975.\n\nThe second star in the Sirius system was first hypothesized by the Euopean astronomer Bessel in 1844 and discovered (visually) in 1862 by Alvin Clark. An astronomer named Adams had pretty accurately predicted Sirius B's orbit around Sirius A and orbital period by 1915. There are also accounts of Sirius B being seen with the naked eye as back as far as 25 AD when it appeared red in contrast to the bright white Sirius A (due to redshift since it was in motion around Sirius A)!!\n\nSo why is it so fancy that the Dogons knew about it in the 1930s? The Dogons could have heard about the hypothesis from someone who knew of the hypothesis or the previous sighting (or could have sighted it themselves), become facinated with it, and worked it into their mythology during the years PRIOR to when it was then recorded by Dr. Giraule and Dr. Dieterlen.\n\nAnd the BIG kicker is that the Dogons now say that there are THREE, not two, stars in the Sirius system. Barring some incredible mystery, we should be able to detect a third star using modern technology but it is just NOT THERE. So, someone please tell teh Dogons, and anyone who listens to them about their mythology of Sirius B, that they are WRONG!!\n\nFinally, the main assumption of Robert Temple's book in 1975 about the Dogon people is thier ISOLATION. IN the 1930s, these people were fairly isolated by todays standards, but were far from in a complete VACUUM from the rest of the world. First of all, there are approximately 300,000 Dogon people. They are in Mali within about 6 hour walk of the Mopti airport and a half-days boat ride on the Niger river to the cities of Koulikoro (110,000 people), Ségou (100,000 people), Timbuktu (MAJOR Tourist site, population 32,000) and Gao (tourist site, population 38,000). That means that by comparison, the Dogons have a popluation about the size of Tampa, FL, Newark, NJ, or Buffalo, NY, while they are closely surrounded by two tourist sites and two cities about the size of Gainesville, FL, Hartford, CT, or Berkeley, CA. By reading Robert Temple's book and the resulting conspiracy theories, you get the idea that this tribe is 100 people out in the middle of nowhere, which just is not the case!! To assume that they never visited these popluation centers just down the river and couldn't have heard about the discovery of Sirius B is absolutely insane. Add the fact that they have always worshiped Sirius A in their rituals (for obvious reasons, it is the brightest star in the sky next to our sun!!), and you can bet that they were flying around town ASKING about the latest news on Sirius whenever they had the chance then incorporating the news into their mythology when it came along!!\n\nHardly isolated, but it makes for a good book!! Albeit a book written in 1975 about the archeologists' experiences in the 1930s-50s. Hardly first hand and very open to interpretation, wouldn't you say??\n\nThese people are NOT as isolated as some conspiracy theorists have made them out to be. Today, their economy runs mostly on, you guessed it, TOURISM!!