Today I accepted an offer for a higher paying job in another department.  I didn't tell my manager that I was interested in this position on the off chance that I wouldn't get the job.  I informed her today and she told me that I can't leave until she hires and trains someone for my position.  My problem is that she is going to leave for vacation next week (for 2 weeks) and the hiring and training process can take up to 2 months.  Is it normal for a manager to stop me from advancing my career until she is ready to hire someone else?  I have had other jobs where if someone accepted a position in another department, they were allowed to do so that same week.  What upsets me the most is that if I were to flat out quit, I would only need to giver her 2 weeks, regardless of the fact that she would need to hire and train someone else.  There are about 12 of us doing the same thing and 1 person has begun the training process.
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Did you sign a contract or work agreement - that would be the first place to look.  If not, check company handbook, or go to personnel/H.R. Department.  Most companies only require 2 weeks; for upper management it may be as much as four, but it would have to be stated which jobs fall in that category.\n\nAnother route to try is to work out an arrangement your new and ex boss about training schedule; perhaps you can start your new job and still be available to train replacement at your old job - ex should be amenable because you will be in easy access, and your new boss should like it because they could get you right away.
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***** BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL. I WOULD NOT SAY ANYTHING TO THE 1ST COMPANY YET, SINCE YOU CAN ALWAYS TELL YOUR CURRENT EMPLOYER YOU'RE LEAVING. YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCEPTED THEIR COUNTER. Why?? I'll tell you:\nTop 10 Reasons Not to Accept a Counter Offer:\n\n1. After resigning, you have made your employer aware that you were looking and unhappy. Your loyalty will now be in question\n\n2. When promotion/raise time comes around, your employer will remember who is loyal and who is not.\n\n3. When making difficult decisions about cut-backs, the company may begin with those that are deemed less loyal.\n\n4. Accepting a Counter-Offer is an insult to your intelligence and a blow to your personal pride, to simply be bought at the last minute.\n\n5. Where was the extra money for a counter-offer at during your last performance review? Most companies have strict wage/salary guidelines and may be simply giving your next raise early or buying time to hire someone in your place.\n\n6. The same circumstances that now cause you to consider making a change almost always reoccur within the next 6-12 months.\n\n7. Statistics show that if you accept a counter-offer, the probability of voluntarily leaving in 6 months or being let go within 1 year are extremely high.\n\n8. Once the word gets out, the relationship you now enjoy with co-workers will never be the same. You lose personal satisfaction of the peer group acceptance.\n\n9. What type of company do you want to work for if you have to threaten to resign before they give you what you are worth?\n\n10. Accepting counter-offers after already accepting another position burns bridges with other companies, your recruiter, and ultimately shows all 3 parties that you can be bought.\n\nAside from these reasons (ESPECIALLY #10), counter-offers create bad situations to begin with. Think about it this way: your employer might only be offering a counter after they have figured out that they don't want to pay to replace you. That's right. Attrition costs employers money. They would rather keep you there, then fire you/find a reason to "lay" you off when they get good and ready, rather than shell out bucks because they lost you.\n\nI would not do it. Go with the new company. Remember why you were looking in the first place. There was something you didn't like about the current employer. Plus, since you've pretty much taken the new offer of employment, it's kind of unethical to tell them, "well...changed my mind!" at this point. It cost them money to recruit you, too!
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Probably might be that the manager has a bit of a power trip going on. Some people who are managers get a bit of power and it goes straight to their head. If it is a department manager then go to the store manager or HR. If it's the store manager then you might want to get a job elsewhere as that person will never change. Always make sure that you look after yourself, bottom line I guess is that it's only a job, plenty of others around!!
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Also, you may be surprised to learn, most managers are not very good at confrontation, even passivly.  Watch carefully as you interact in the business world.  A smart manager hires a "watchdog".  A secretary or assistant who fields all calls and deflects the majority of the problems and less pleasent tasks from the manager.  \n\nWhoever did the interview didn't want to say, "If you don't hear from us in a couple weeks, that means you didn't get the job." which is what he really means when he says "You'll hear from us either way."\n\nAfter the interview process is over, and they've selected someone, the training begins, and any thought to empty promises made to people they will probably never see again goes out the window.  Sad, huh?\n\nI agree with someone above who said that etiquette in the business world is gone!
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I think that is really stupid!  You should get a new job in the same feild. If your boss treats you that way you dont even want to be working there
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I would just wait.  For one your current employer can't fire you because you're looking for new employment.\n\nPersonally, if I were the one doing the hiring, I wouldn't devulge any information about when you would be working.  I would tell them that they need to speak with you.
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Be Patient :)  It could take up to 8 weeks before you hear from them and then another month before you start training, then a month in between training and work.  It takes a long time but they will definately let you know no matter what.  Even when you already work there, when you apply for another job within the agency, it could be weeks and weeks because of the way the process it setup.  I hope your buddy not hearing from them was a fluke, because they are usually very thorough and send more than one letter.   About the CPA thing, yes, you'll do well!  Another thing I noticed is grammar/spelling of your post.  I know it sounds silly, but I've seen some applications (of people who already worked there applying for other jobs) where I'm astonished these people even have jobs. The fact that you communicate well puts you way ahead of the game already :)  I'm sure you'll hear back and you'll love working there! Hope that helps!
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the probationary period is usually 3 months and it should be mentioned in your contract or offer letter.\nhowever, if you decide to quit during the first three month of your employement, you are not obliged to give them a notice period. and of course neither they should when terminating throughout the probationary period.\nbut if you feel that you don't want to put them through hard times looking for a substitute and training him/her, i mean if you feel you want to be gentle till the end, then give them one week... they would appreciate it i guess.
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This is just flat rude of her to just be gone and give no apologies at all - once maybe, but not twice. When you make another appointment (that is if you are still interested in working there), ask personnel to please contact you should the manager not be available. Be sure that they hear you say that your time is valuable, and you don't have the time to waste on a wild goose chase like the last two attempts. Thank them cordially, but be firm in your statement. If they don't understand that - find another job opportunity somewhere else. Good luck.
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no. if they want to hire after your temp period it is there choice. remember, it's only a temp position. even if it was a temp-to-perm position it's still up to the office to decide. they have no allegiance to hire you unless they want to. if it was a 90 probationary period then technically you were hired but with a little * by your name. depending on your performance they decide whether or not to hire you out right. did you go through a temp agency? check with them if you did. if not, ask the person in charge of HR there. Also, if you need evidence to PROVE it's a law, chances are they probably don't want you or you are trying WAY too hard.
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First of all, take the time and effort to learn how to write or it will hold you back professionally, both because your resume will be unreadable and because higher positions in most businesses require the ability to write reports.\n\nNever tell your boss you might quit before you are ready to or they will stop promoting you.  Why give you a better spot if you're going to leave?\n\nNow...what you should do.\n\nOne year isn't a lot of experience but if you really are as good as you say, you should already be getting raises.   Employers in most professions do not like people who change jobs often, so your boss is right in that you should probably put in at least another year. \n\nThe exception would be if they are making you miserable, not paying you market rates, etc.   Yes, this does mean that if another company will give you a big pay hike to switch, that IS reason enough to switch, just don't do it too often.\n\nWhen you want to test the market (and yes, you can do this at any time in your career), go apply for jobs with other companies that you would like to have.   Find out what makes them different (do you get to learn more things) and whether or not you can progress your career with them.\n\nKeep in mind that you should not have to keep switching companies to get ahead and make more money.  Good companies that are run by smart people realize it is better to train and trust an existing employee, then hire a new and unproven one.   With this in mind, you should also make it known you'd like to get ahead where you are at too.\n\nIF you get a good offer from another company, then you go to your boss and give your two week notice (do not do this until you have a firm offer in your hand).   Sometimes they will counter with a raise or promotion to keep you.  \n\nYou sound very young and your team leader is wise to suggest you still have a lot to learn and that the more you know, the more valuable you are to whichever company you work for.
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You are not going to like this answer, but maybe they did not like working with you, and/or felt your work was not up to the standard.  Maybe they do not want to hire someone they know is going to quit as soon as another opportunity comes along, because hiring and training is an expensive and burdensome process.
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It has been my experience that one employer will not ask another employer what you were making.  it does not make a difference.  the new employer will pay you what the job calls for.  If a manager hires at a hire rate of 10.00 per hour then that is what you will get.  Don't worry about it, and don't loose any sleep over it.
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You already have the job, so you don't need to worry about what you can/can't do.  If he asks you to do something you don't know how to do, the best thing you can do is tell him that you don't but you're willing to learn.  If he has the time to show you then even better (my boss likes when people ask him how to do things, cause it shows you're willing to do try something new).\n\nChances are as a manager he's dealt with a lot of people, so he probably recognizes that you're nervous which may be why he's quiet around you.  Ask around and find out what he's interested in, so worst case if you have that awkward silence again you might have something to talk about (you might feel more comfortable just asking him some questions first until the conversation evolves)
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Its difficult when you are on probation, but usually where there is a probationary period, there is a review period. Make sure that you are getting these formal reviews.\n\nAlso, I dont know what job it is that you are doing, but 6 months is a long time for a probation period... It thinks thats bodering unfair in itself....\n\nCan you prove that the manager is making people give negative feedback on you? Has the manager bullied you directly and why do you think your manager does not like you? Consider all of this as this is what the HR Department will want to know - so be prepared. I would start to make a diary of events if you can.\n\nIn the meantime, ask the HR department for a review, and with that some pointers on how and where you can improve your progress with a timeline.\n\nIf the manager was bullying you my response would be completely different: despite your length of service you could raise a formal grievance. You could try doing this with your HR Department anyway.\n\nThe problem really lies with your length of service, as I'm sure you are aware. You cannot claim unfair dismissal until you have one years service or more, so that is not really an option here...
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You can't generalize this. Every company, every hiring situation can be different. If they need someone ASAP, then they'll move quickly. If not, it could be days, it could be weeks.
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Recruiters and manager all have different ways to give a candidate "the brush off".  Sometimes Recruiters or Managers will tip their hand that you may not be as qualified by mentioning other candidates. They also might be doing that as a way to keep the upper hand knowing that they will be negoitiating an offer with you.  Companies  know that candidates are usually more likely to accept if they think the company has back-up options if they don't accept.  Personally, I have been on interviews where I thought I aced it and I never heard back.  The only way to know is if you get called.  Good Luck.