If you didn't know-God created so many innocent babies, only to KILL every first-born child in all of EGYPT! I don't want to hear the thing about the parents were guilty of not trying to overthrow the king-the babies were innocent. If you think abortion is so bad, isn't that just a little worse?
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The issue is not that God’s goodness, God’s power, and evil’s reality can’t fit together, but that there are additional pieces to the puzzle that fit between them and hold them together.\n\n1. Free Will is a partial answer. \nFree will gives a partial answer to this question of evil and suffering. It goes like this: \n\nGod made humanity with free will. \nEvil is a result of human choices. Our first parents chose to sin. \nAs a result of sin, this world has been plunged into suffering. \nEvil, therefore, finds its origin not in the Creator, but in the creature. God receives no blame for evil—we do. We get the credit for evil because we’re the ones who chose to abandon God.\n\n2. As a result of free will, history is discontinuous. \nThere was no evil in God's original creation. But Adam had free will—he was able to sin or to not sin. And he chose to sin. And Adam's choice affected more than just himself. He represented all of humanity. Indeed, Adam represented the whole world (he had dominion over it), and when Adam was sinning, the whole world was declaring war on God. Thus even the natural world was plunged into suffering—animate as well as inanimate (the ground being cursed in Genesis 3 and thus awaiting full salvation at Christ’s return — Romans 8:19-22). This discontinuity is what Christians call the Fall. The world is good (Gen. 1), but fallen in rebellion against God. \n\nHow could God create a world full of evil and suffering? He didn’t. He created a world in which people enjoyed communion with God, intimacy with each other, perfect harmony with the creation, and everlasting life—a world with no suffering, no sin and no guilt. History is radically discontinuous. The world changed at the Fall. \n\nAnd the fact that the Bible says the world is good but fallen certainly makes sense of life. Human beings are capable of great beauty and kindness, but also great evil. Children are cute, but selfish. Adults are smart, but manipulative. The Bible accounts for both the glory and the shame of being human. We’re God’s image, but an image marred and distorted by our divorce from our Creator. \n\nThe Christian philosopher Blaise Pascal spoke of the grandeur and misery of humanity. We are capable of great things, but are always capable of pondering an existence better than the life we now have. Thus we find ourselves in misery precisely because we have the ability to contemplate a better existence. Perhaps the fact that we can imagine a life without suffering is itself a reminder deep within our human consciousness of the life we once enjoyed in loins of father Adam — a life we have lost and can only regain through the redemptive intervention of God in human history. This is a redemption that will only be complete when Jesus Christ returns.\n\n3. If you want God to eradicate evil, you’re demanding that He eradicate us. God’s alternative to eradicating evil people is to redeem them. \nRemember the words of Peter: “The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance” (2 Peter 3:9). You blame God for evil in the world? I assure you He can take care of the problem right now — but you won’t like the way He does so. Is there evil in your heart? He can destroy your heart at any moment. The amazing thing, though, is that God doesn’t do this. He made your tongue, and you use it to speak against Him — but He is patient with you. For now. \n\nRedemption is God’s striking alternative to eradication. Rather than destroying his fallen creation, He has chosen to restore a people for Himself, a people who one day will live with Him in a restored creation (2 Peter 3:13).\n\n4. Evil is not a thing, but a privation of the good. \nThis was the point that Augustine made in the fourth century when refuting the dualistic Manichean cult out of which he had come when converted to Christ. Mani h
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Dont be so stupid,\nBabies are always an imminent danger\ncause they will someday grow up and fight, kill, murder. terrorise,\nOsama was a baby 38 years ago and so was Bush 50 years ago. All babies are dangerous,\nSo why stop killing babies in the first place,\nKill them all, whats the difference, after all they are all muslim babies, who owe thier alliegance to Alla, \n\nJewish babies have a lot to contribute, see ? like thier Bar Mitsovah, an occasion for all Jewish bankers for deciding more interest rates, and the Christian babies have thier Baptising ceremonies, wherein they have a great many dances and cheers, see? they contribute to the general well being, Take communist babies too, Kill them all, doesnt make a difference, Godless lot. they are far too many so many that even their govts say STOP.\n\nKilling babies is an art perfected first by the Jews now refined by the Christians,\n\nGod says so, read the bible, I quote.\n" Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass .... And Saul ... utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword." (1 Samuel 15:3,7-8) \n"The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their women with child ripped open." (Hosea 13:16) \n\nWhen the lord has given permission, who are we to stop them following thier lord. Wise up man, The lord said nothing about oil.
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Hi, Whisper.  I urge you to think a little more about justifying abortion in the case of rape.  Remember, the baby has no control over the circumstances of his or her conception.  You wouldn't kill a one-year-old because her daddy is a rapist, right?  Then why is it okay to kill the child in the womb because of the crime of her father?  The baby hasn't done anything to deserve death.  Plus, abortion only brings so much more trauma and grief to the woman who has been raped.  When she realizes that she committed violence against an innocent person, just as violence was committed against her, she will begin to hate herself.  For more on abortion and rape, see:\n\nhttp://www.deathroe.com/Pro-life_Answers/Answers.cfm?ID=31\nhttp://www.afterabortion.info/Victims/index.htm\nhttp://www.afterabortion.info/PAR/V2/n1/RAPESUM.htm\n\nAlso, did you know that over 475 American doctors have signed a  statement saying abortion is NEVER necessary to save a mother's life?\n\nhttp://www.all.org/article.php?id=10682\n\nFor those who don't believe abortion is murder, see:\n\nInformation on all aspects of abortion:\nhttp://Abort73.com\n\nPhotos of abortions:\nhttp://www.cbrinfo.org/Resources/pictures.html\n\nA four-minute, must-see video on abortion:\nhttp://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-4-video.html\n\nPhotos and facts about prenatal development:\nhttp://www.justthefacts.org/clar.asp\nhttp://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-2-prenatal.html\nhttp://www.studentsforlife.uct.ac.za/foetal%20dev%20photos.html\nhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm
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I think perhaps God should make decisions like those. Medical Science is great and all but God has power over all things. Choose your child. From the mother's stand point what better way to die, than by giving another life. Greater love has no man than this, that he lay down his life for a friend. (I think baby relatives count too.) From the father's stand point what better way to show God you totally trust him? A friend of mine was told about six months ago that she should abort her child because he would never breathe on his own, his skull would not be formed,his facial features would be distorted, and the child's brain would be in essence.... dead.Pam and Mike were basically told to kill their unborn child because a medical test "proved" it would be for the best. Rather than putting their faith in medicine they put their faith in God and  today a miracle happened. Pam gave birth to a basically healthly child. He is breathing just fine all by himself, despite some minor physical abnormalities he is a beautiful healthy child. Praise God for this precious life! If Mike would have put his faith in science, or Pam had chosen instead to have her baby aborted because something might be wrong.... well the world would have missed out on this brand new perfect life. The real question is not who can I save? But, in whom can I put my faith? You have no control over life or death, which means YOU can NOT Choose who lives. ie. If the father decides "choose" to abort the child who is to say that during the procedure the mother would not also die? It has happened. an abortion requires a serious, though minimally invasive, surgical procedure.It's called a Dilitation and Curretage more commonly refered to as a D&C.(not only for decicive abortions, a D&C is commonly done on women who have had a spontaneous abortion or miscarriage to prevent uterine infections)I personally have seen (working on a surgical floor) women who have nearly died from complications of this "minimally invasive" procedure.If you put your faith in God he will direct your path.
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I see double standard from Christians in this regard. Because they believe that every one is born in sin of adam and eve. So the babies are sinner. no matter if the baby dies just after 1 day. he or she will be sinner becuase he or she has not accepted Christ as his saviour. so according to this logic. the baby should go to hell. \n\n\nIn islam, everyone is born sinless. there is no concept of original sin in islam. Islam makes sense in this regard. and if a baby dies, he or she will directly go to paradise.\n\nhope this answers.\n\n\n\n=============================\nEDIT ************************\n\nSORRY I FORGOT TO MENTION ONE THING/.\n\n\nRegarding the concept of original sin, it is taught by the church. What the church teaches that Eve (pbuh), she tempted Adam pbuh to eat the forbidden food, and because of that humankind is born in Sin.\n\nIn Quran, the story of Adam and Eve  is mentioned. But there is not a single verse in the Quran which puts the blame only on Eve pbuh. If you read the Quran 7:19-27, it says both of them disobeys Almighty God. Both of them repented and both of them was forgiven. The blame is put equally on both. There is not a single verse in the Quran which puts the blame only on Eve pbuh. But there is one verse in Quran which speaks about only Adam pbuh, i.e. Quran 20:121 says that Adam pbuh disobeys almighty God. \nI am asking you a question that Did Eve and Adam peace be upon them ask me to eat the forbidden food? No. So how can I be held responsible. Its illogical! If they ask me and i have given them permission then i will be responsible. \n\nAccording to the bible sin is not inherited. \nEZEKIEL 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the sin of the father, neither shall the father bear the sin of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. \nEZEKIEL 18:21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.\n\nIf son shall not bear the sin of father, how can we be born in sin. What the church teaches that sin is inherited, is against the bible. Islam says that every child is born sinless. \n\nDEUTERONOMY 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.\n\n===============================\n\nTHE QUESTION WAS REGARDING BIBLE, BUT I MENTIONED DEATAILS ABOUT ISLAM TOO BECAUSE ISLAM BELIVES IN JESUS AND REVELATION OF GOD ON JESUS. (PEACE BE UPON HIM )
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No, it's like this: You let it be born, and if it turns out horribly bad you kill it.  Keep the good ones.  Kill off the bad ones.  There is no fallacy or conflict in this thinking.  Kiling a fetus is a different line of reasoning than killing a mass murderer.  You cannot equate the two.  thus, anti-abortion and pro-death penalty are not in conflict.  Two different things entirely.\n\nReligion is not above killing.  More people have been killed in religious conflicts than from any other cause.
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See abortion.  Somehow the courts decided this issue and the states were left with their mouths agape.  One can blame the national government for not having the intestinal fortitude when it came to abortion.  That's what one gets when we elect gutless lawmakers.
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This is the sick reality of the world we live in ...everyone is all for abortion but opposes the death penalty...It is so wrong to kill someone who has brutaly taken the life of someone else, but it is perfectly acceptable to kill an innocent unborn baby...The horrible tradgedy is not that 5 beautiful innocent children lost their lives at their mothers hand, but that this woman was sitting in prison having to live with her actions and blaming it on depression....Quite frankly, they should have drown her in a bath tub as she did to her innocent children...I know that it is wrong of me to think this way, God forgive me ...
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Well Dr. Lifemaker, may I ask why you are so bitter?  Do you agree that murder is wrong?  Is your argument simply that you do not believe a fetus is life?\nI just wondered because you seemed really angry in your answer, but did not explain your views.\n\nIn my view, I agree that abortion is murder.  I had a choice once, when I was a teenager.  Thank God and all that is decent in the world, I decided on adoption, not murder.\n\nI can honestly say that I have never murdered anyone.
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I think anything that can cure a person should be explored,and abortion is not a bad thing,after all who want to keep an unwanted child no matter the situation.\n\nI would not want another child brought into this world,it is going to do nothing but get worse no matter what anyone says.
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Sex is moral as long as it is between a husband and wife. Doesn't anyone take God's word for anything? God made a man and a woman to be together  as husband and wife. To share with no one else. To reproduce. That is his plan. But way too many don't keep their vows and way too many kids and adults are experimenting with different partners of same sex and opposite sex, and then everyone wants to know why God has let them catch a venereal disease or aids or countless other things that come from sleeping around. His law was simple. Thou shalt not commit adultery. And this applies to people who aren't even married.
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God killed them, he killed lots of people, just not directly. If you don't believe me, look at the flood, Sodom, etc.\nGod did not kill his children directly, but if God is all-powerful he could have stopped it, but he chose not too. Call it a master plan.
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You are right, life does begin at conception, and killing innocent human beings is always wrong.  I'm glad to hear that you are actually doing something about the killing, unlike people who are only pro-life in word and not in deed.  Here's more food for thought:\n\nPhotos of Abortions, Including 1st Trimester Abortions:\nhttp://www.cbrinfo.org/Resources/pictures.html\n\nA Four-Minute, Must-See Video on Abortion:\nhttp://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-4-video.html\n\nInformation on All Aspects of Abortion:\nhttp://Abort73.com\n\nPhotos and Facts About Prenatal Development:\nhttp://www.justthefacts.org/clar.asp\nhttp://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-1-medical.html\nhttp://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-2-prenatal.html\nhttp://www.studentsforlife.uct.ac.za/foetal%20dev%20photos.html\nhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm\nhttp://www.lifeissues.org/ultrasound/11weeks.htm\n\nPain Perception in the Unborn:\nhttp://www.advocatesfortheinnocent.com/fetalpain.html\n\nPro-Life Answers to “Pro-Choice” Arguments:\nhttp://www.deathroe.com/Pro-life_Answers/\nhttp://www.pregnantpause.org/abort/choicarg.htm\n\nRape and Abortion:\nhttp://www.deathroe.com/Pro-life_Answers/Answers.cfm?ID=31\nhttp://www.afterabortion.info/Victims/index.htm\nhttp://www.focusonthefamily.com/focusmagazine/sohl/A000000103.cfm\nhttp://www.dakotavoice.com/200611/Guest/20061101_GR.html\nhttp://www.afterabortion.info/PAR/V2/n1/RAPESUM.htm\n\nIs Abortion Ever Necessary to Save the Life of the Mother?\nhttp://www.all.org/article.php?id=10682\nhttp://www.advocatesfortheinnocent.com/motherslife.html\n\nAnd, oh, by the way, the so-called partial birth abortion ban is a scam.  It's not truly a pro-life bill.  Read this:\n\nhttp://www.newswithviews.com/Brownlow/david1.htm
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No.  The verses you mentioned are not talking about abortion.\n\nThey are talking about adultery and what would be done to a woman if her husband was jealous and thought she had cheated on him.\n\nThe husband and wife would go before the priest.  He would have water and dust from the tabernacle floor mixed together.  If she was innocent and had not done a crime...and the husband was just jealous.  ...  Nothing would happen to her..she would be proved innocent....and the potion would not harm her reproductive system.\n\nIf she was guilty of this crime ...her belly would swell...her leg would rot and she would not be able to bear children.  \n\nThis proceedure was not done on a pregnant woman.\n\nThe inability to bear children was a devastating situation to a woman.  Unfortunately, women today don't look upon children in the same manner, as a blessing from the LORD.  Unfortunately, a lot of women view their children as curses.\n\nThese verses shows that God does indeed care about our sexual relations.  We are to stay faithful to our spouse.  God definitely frowns on adulterous relationships along with many other sexually wrong relationships.
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God wouldn't have told you to have sex before you were married. God doesn't want people to have sex before your married. That is committing adultery because your cheating on your future wife because you are having sex with a person other that her. God says not to commit adultery. Abortion shouldn't be an option. That is like murder and god also says not to murder. It is taking the life of someone god created. God creates people to live and to grow up to serve him. He makes people to effect the world. He has a plan for this baby and you wouldn't want to stop gods plan. You could always consider adoption.
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Pro-abortionists will say that the unborn baby is a product of conception.  This allows them to not have to deal with the baby issue.  They want to say that pro-lifers are anti-choice....that they are against a woman having the right to choose what happens to their body.  I think the pro-murder or anti-life (I will call them that as they like to use the anti-choice moniker) advocates don't understand that pro-lifers are trying to speak up for the choice of one who cannot be heard...the baby!  The argument that I like to use, from a Biblical sense is that God says He knew us before we were born and that He knit us together in our mother's womb.  This indicates that He began life before our actual birth.  The argument that the baby is just a product of conception...it is true.  A baby is a product of conception, the only one...you conceive a baby!  It is not the baby's fault that you made a mistake, that you were irresponsible or that some sick bas...d went and did something to a woman that he should be strung up by his ba..s for!  That baby is innocent!  The woman who aborts a baby is also, often, wracked with guilt in their later years over what they did.  Why inflict an additional pain on some poor girl/woman who has been raped, etc.?  It is illegal to break an eagle's egg because it is living and the bald eagle is endangered, but it is legal to kill a human infant in the same state...what kind of sick logic is that?
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Illegal. It is murder plain and simple. For the people who say women would die in back allies because they couldn't go to a proper doctor then I say they need to die if they kill an innocent fetus. If they can put their baby up to be aborted then they should chance dieing. Anyone who can kill a fetus deserves death. remember slavery? People back then said that black people weren't even human. They called them animals. We know better now right? It is the same for abortion, it is murder and it is wrong. everyone knows this, they just choose to use abortion as a form of birth control and it's wrong. When we go to see our maker what excuses could you give him for abortion?\nFor the guy below me, there is a difference between murder and killing. We kill terrorists because we are defending ourselves. You seem to be very lost. What have babies done to deserve death? You said that we shouldn't sponsor organizations that murder then don't support liberals and abortion clinics then. Hypocrites!