In response,again to "Well". When I ask the first question about our gov. allowing others in I didnt mean, close the border completely, and one reason I ask was b/c where I live, there are so many immigrants you wouldn't believe. We have carpet industry, and they have come here to work, But each year our county is having to build new schools to accomedate them, and our newspaper is full every week of arrestees and most are from another region. Plus in the last three years gang activity has ran wild. Other than that when i said"gather info to use against us, as already have" a few years back, I was in a federal building, and there was a big board with pictures of wanted people that were iffiliated with 911 and it told that some had came and went to school here to learn the things they needed to know in order to take over the planes once they hijacked them, so that was my reasoning there. I didnt think alot about it when I ask it, I was generally just trying yahoo answers out.
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Here is a nice bowl of ice cream, it is chocolate, hope that is okay.  Hope that helps.  *hugs*
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It's about time someone stand up for this huge, illegal immigration invasion that is going on.\nSure hope this is true. I have not heard this yet.\nI don't think anyone will be running scared yet. They will just migrate to another state.\nIt will take alot more of the states to get involved before anything, as minute can actually be noticed. Let's give it our best. Hat's off to you NC.
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In 2004 10,000 federal agents (CBP) working on the border apprehended 1.1 million people attempting to cross the border.\n\nHave you ever been to the border between the US and Mexico?  It is very long (over 2000 miles) and extremely in hospitable. I know because I was stationed in a recon unit to watch a portion of it.  Even if a fence is built, there is no way to watch the fence all the time, and any fence can be breached.  Do the math....to adequately watch the border with real time guards (that is someone who can respond to an immediate breach) you would need a guard tower every 1/4 mile (depending on terrain).  That is 8000 guard towers.  To staff that 24 hours/365, with two agents, you would need 64,000 agents, plus another large group to actually round up the illegals, process them, and detain them.  Although some might like to, we can't shoot them or abuse them, so this is expensive.  \n\nBy my rapid calculations, we would need about 100,000 more law enforcement personnel (at a cost of 8 billion dollars per year, not counting facilities).  We would also have to build a more user-friendly infrastructure along the border, which, by the way has lots of private land along it.  Yes, we could uset he military to staff these towers, but wait, by the constitution we can't have active duty military or reserve make arrests (posse comitatus).  Yes, they can watch and radio (like we did in the Sonoran Desert years ago), but then you end up with nasty situations like the Marine who shot and killed a Mexican boy who had strayed over the border with some sheep.\n\nPart of the problem is that while people whine about this, they love to get cheap labor.  Many businesses and private families intentionally employ illegal aliens because they save money.  The pressure that special interest groups representing certain of these folks is certain to make it difficult to stop the supply.  Congress is about the consider a new bill to have guest workers, like in Germany with the Turks.  After all, you don't really want a job as a fruit picker, do you, or as an office cleaner...got to leave those for the migrant workers!
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There is an asylum procedure which is outside ordinary immigration channels.  I don't know if they qualified, though.  Also, it is possible people doubted their story as to why they were there.  In that case, you just have three Iraqis entering the country illegally through the Southern border. Post 9/11, I don't mind our border control taking a good hard look at that.\n\nI don't know anything about the situation other than what is in your question, though.
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It is a slap in the face to everyone who has come here and gone through the channels to become citizens.  Many people have worked haqrd to make a decent, LEGAL living here in the United States, and the illegal immigrants who have no intention of becoming legal are rubbing dirt in the faces of LEGAL immigrants.  One man comes here, fills out his paperwork, pays his dues, becomes a citizen, embraces our culture, paqys taxes, and lives a great life.  Another man comes here, gets on welfare, teaches his children to dispise American traditions, hides from the IRS, refuses to abide by our laws, lives off our tax money, and lives a great life.  Would you be happy with the other man, if you were the one who came here legally?  \n\nOn another note....\n\nWe are closing our borders this July 4th, and anyone can participate! Please visit http://www.getmycountryback.com... to get the details and fins out how you can be a part of helping to protect our borders this Independence Day!!!!!
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Pancha, I can see your rationale here; however, I think you may be just a little bit too generous with your ideas than most American citizens would be able to take. I think it is a good start, though, with maybe some room for negotiation.  \n\nI agree it is going to be almost impossible to deport most of the illegal immigrants who are currently in the US and I can also see the inhumanity of deporting most of them after they have lived here for so long.  I feel it is partly the fault of the American government that so many illegal immigrants have gotten into the US at this point; there has basically been a "tacit" okay from the US government as, for the most part, they have seemed to turn a blind eye for many years, and in that way the illegal immigrants have been encouraged to "come on in and tell all their friends and family to come, too."  They have been taken advantage of by the employers who have hired them at slave wages, but they have been happy to take these jobs because even that is better than what they get at home.  \n\nHowever, I also believe that if the rules are going to be bent for some of the illegal hispanic immigrants, then something must also be done to speed up and make a compromise for the people who have taken the time and trouble to enter the US legally and go through the proper application procedures and pay the fees, etc, or it's not fair to them.  I also understand that there is a lot more motivation for the Mexican and Central American immigrants to come in to the US illegally, just by their proximation to the US border; much harder for someone who has to cross an ocean and has no choice but to come through a legal customs checkpoint, as I think that if it were possible, a lot more illegals would be coming from overseas, too.  \n\nAlso, I understand that the poverty of the hispanic immigrants in their home countries make it difficult, if not impossible for them to take the time necessary to file proper papers (the family is hungry NOW, and can't wait years for applications to go through, they need food now!), let alone be able to come up with the fees. (In this way I believe the US immigration laws are discriminatory towards poor immigrants, and not just hispanic immigrants, as there should be some special consideration for poor immigrants from other countries, as well.)  Obviously, we do have a need for immigrants from all walks of life, not just the professions and not just for people with lots of money to begin with, but labourers, farm hands, janitors, construction workers, etc.  \n\nHowever, if any kind of concessions are made, in the end, for a portion of the current illegal immigrants in the US, I truly believe the government has to immediately and very firmly crack down on the employers who have profited from and taken advantage of the illegal immigrants, so that these people, once they are documented, will no longer be vulnerable to being taken advantage of by unscrupulous employers.  And, also so that these employers are forced to uphold the employment laws and not pay anyone less than minimum wage and minimum legal benefits.  So what if the prices of things go up a little bit - we have obviously been paying artificially low prices for our goods for a long time now, on the backs of the poorly payed and often maltreated and cheated illegal immigrant employees, and so we need to be prepared to pay realistic prices for our goods. \n\nAt the same time, immediately, the borders have got to be secured to prevent any further illegal immigrants from entering the country, while making it easier for them to go through the process legally for work visas.  \n\nAlso, I believe that the illegal immigrants do NOT take pride in NOT paying their fair share of taxes and all their costs to live in the USA.  I believe they are, for the most part, a hardworking, proud segment of society who would take pride in paying their taxes and would do so voluntarily and happily, if they had the
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I don't think so. Whose gonna do the unwanted jobs then? Easy for some people to say yes but they wouldn't dare do the jobs these people do. Did you ever think that some of these people came here legally to be able to support their families but majority of them ended up being abused by their employers so they ended up illegals? I have heard a lot of stories and verified them. Some of the bad things that happened to them were done by by our fellow Americans and you talk of having electric fences? What's the matter with you? I bet your ancestors would love to hear your comments when they came here as immigrants too. If they'd have known what the future generation would be maybe they would have aborted you.
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Again we are stereotyping the illegal alien.  Are we to believe that no one coming to this country by legal means will never someday have TB?  We even have citizens that have come down with this disease.  I take the issue of Illegal Immigration very seriously, yet most of my answers on this forum about this issue have left me defending those who are being persecuted by those asking questions the way they ask them.  There is no single group that holds exclusivity to being responsible for being the Illegal Immigrants in this country.  We tend to blame Mexicans, however every country South of the U.S. and Mexican border are basically 100% hispanic and all except for Brazil speak some form of Spanish or another so yes many of the Illegal Aliens come from our hemisphere as it is close for them to do so, however we have illegal aliens from every country in the world living and working here.  There are a lot of good reasons for not wanting undocumented people in your country and health concerns are among them, but do not go at this issue from a biased direction because it is not only one type of people who come here illegally we see only the poor and sick as being the problem and maybe the majority are, however we also have some well off people living here illegally as well.  We can not just bundle up this problem and place the blame on one group of people.  The government is not going to be able to remove the ones we currently have in this country and unless they decide to put some actual money into the problem it is not going to slow down in the future.  America still has jobs when many other countries do not and as long as America has jobs and money we will have people coming to this counry to fill them.  You want to end this problem fill these jobs with Americans and the illegals will return home, yet this will never happen when being on welfare can be a better deal than working at these jobs are.  We have made this problem and have lived with it for years and years and now we can see that it may threaten the security of our country and we want something done about it yesterday.  Well fact is that those who mean us harm were probably already here before 9/11 happened and we started looking at this.  They could be anyone's neighbor or someone you work side by side with and you will not know it until it is time for them to act.  It is too late to close the barn after the cows all got out.  This has been a major issue for all of my life and I figure it will remain long after I am gone.
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What makes you think its not also happening elsewhere, like almost everywhere that weak people think they need prohibition? Between drug war funding and corruption ("Operation Lively Green") there's too much money available [locally, $300,000 to let one load across the border] to agenda driven police, drunk with political power and feeling invulnerable. In the zone near the Mexican Border with Arizona, it only sounds like a joke when we say we can trust the banditos and smugglers more than Border Patrol, to behave as expected. The criminals are no threat to citizens, but the criminal behaviors and abuse of ranchers and citizens by 'authorities' have done more to inspire us to call this zone the "Gunbelt". We have tried to clean up corruption, but both the smugglers and the corrupted are protected by the cowards we trusted to protect us. Its a fearful situation now being repeated in communities across America, as the "police" did nothing for years to stop the illegal invasion of millions across the border. Now the "bite" 'morditas' is on everyone. We are honest, but go nowhere unarmed;We joined a posse, and got deputized in a citizens police oversight team authorized to do whats needed, up to and including the use of deadly force. We surround the corrupt cops, not the other way around. Truth and dignity, if not justice, will prevail.
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You know the answer to this already.\n\nI am a far left liberal and most of my friends and family are also. We are always shocked when ppl try to state liberals are pro-illegal immigration. \n\nWe are the ones shouting no no no send them home. Why? Because they are criminals and we have enough criminals already.\n\nWhy isn't the gov. doing anything? You know this... because the our gov. is completely controlled by Republicans atm who are in turned owned by big business. And big business does not want to stop being able to exploit their cheap labor.\n\nThey want to make it look like they are against it but ask yourself, 'why can't a completely controlled government by one party come up with a law getting rid of them then?" See what I mean? Because they don't really want to get rid of them.
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You have a point.  The recent arguments about immigration have focused on the border with Mexico.  But immigration can come overland from Canada, as well.  Which means whatever security we really need at airports to prevent terrorists, we also realistically need at every part of every border.  Such a thorough system of electronic search and so on is obviously impractical.  Therefore, are we kidding ourselves that the extra manpower, expense and inconvenience at the airports is serving any useful purpose?  As the questioner points out, it probably never did make much difference, anyway; the original 9/11 gang did not come in through an airport.\n\nSo how do we combat terrorism if these measures are about guaranteed to be ineffective?  It has been said repeatedly that the intelligence community (the spies, if you will) knew a great deal about Osama bit Leaden (I don't use his real name on purpose) before 9/11/2001.  They warned their bosses, including the president, who played it his way.  You gotta wonder if he didn't like the idea of an excuse to put restrictive measures on airports and the various other compromises to our freedom we have accepted under the "homeland security" rubric.  (Love the tee shirt with a picture of several old Indian warriors!)  \n\nFolks, our borders are too long, and with modern transportation, too open to everyone and anyone, for us to even try to stem the flow.  Why not say come; I lift my lamp beside the golden door.  If you come in peace, and are willing to work hard to make your way here, come.  If you do not behave well, we will send you home.
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I know I have spoken out against illegal aliens in response to other questions, and I'm ashamed to admit I never thought about how it would affect the Hispanic folks who have every legal right to be here, same as my ancestors.  I apologize for that.\n\nPersonally, I think we're in a situation similar to that of pre-Nazi Germany.  We have our own Brown Shirts (Homeland Security) and people spying on each other (truck drivers, delivery people and taxi drivers have been asked to keep their eyes open for suspicious activity) and I think we're in for a very bad time in this country.  I think we will all be required to carry papers before too long.  There will no longer be freedom of movement, etc.  God help us all!
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Ok....let's get one thing straight.  When my (and many others) ancestors came here long ago IT WASN"T ILLEGAL!!!  Most of them came here not for money or a better life but for life itself (jews, scots, irish).  They had people actually killing them, I mean gun to the head, knife to the heart.  And they came to this country and FOUGHT for this country, losing whole families along the way.  I live in the south and am a proud southerner (that does not mean racist), my family were poor dirt farmers from Tennessee who scraped by with what they could grow or what they could buy with the little money my father (who had to drop out of school at the age of 12 to get a job - only boy out of 11 children - and fought in Vietnam) made doing odd jobs.  Today we have laws in place to stop the over population of our country.  My husband is an immigrant who went through the proper channels.  Yes, it cost money that we didn't have but we STILL went through the proper channels.  They will let you in unless you have something to hide, all you have to do is fill out the paper work and wait.  I know that today time is money and one day can mean the life and death of someone you love but AMERICA is NOT to blame for the state of your home country.  I am all for immigration if it is done legally!  As far as I am concerned, whether you come from Mexico, China, England, France, or Tim-buck-too, if you come here illegally you should be prepared to face the repercussions of doing so.  Breaking the law is breaking the law, period.  No one is above it (with the exception of the Bosh family - or so they wish us to believe).
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You know there are probably a lot of terrorists arleady here.  What's done is done. But that does not mean that we should not TRY to take measures to keep them out, or that we should give up all our laws and throw open our hands and borders to any and everyone.  I mean if you knew that your house was infested with termites, would you just let them destroy your house? or would you do something about it? I dont believe that illegal immigrants are termites.  Just trying to make a point.  Just because the problem already exists, does not mean that you dont take measure to try to protect yourself.\n\nAnd I think the whip should be cracked. This issue is not a matter of free speech, because our rights are reserved for the "legal" citizens of this country. I think it is not very smart to be doing something illegal, and then making it known that you are doing it. \n\nPeople who are here illegally are breaking the law. There are steps that can be taken to be here legally and they should take them. It may be a difficult process, but as we all know Freedom isn't free, and if you want it bad enough, you should be willing to do what it takes to get it through legal means.\n\nI mean, the protests of illegal people in this country bothers me. I mean what would happen if child molesters decided to protest the laws against child molesting. We would all say, that's crazy! How can they be "in the wrong" and demand the laws be changed so that they can do what they want. I don't think it is right. The best way to resolve the problem is to make it prohibitive for illegal people to be here, and beneficial for legal immigrants to be here. Our laws are there for a reason, America is not a free for all...and if you want to be a part of its citizenry, then you must follow the laws like the rest of the citizens. \n\nWhat gets me is all these people using emotionalism and saying that "human rights" are being violated. How is it a violation of human rights to tell people who entered this country illegally, got jobs, and basically are squatters and cheaters that at long last, YOU MUST DO THE RIGHT THING! \n\nI think they do not understand what the definition of "Human Rights" is. They are not being treated inhumanely, they are actually fortunate. Because they are being treated as any other American Citizen who breaks the law. ACTUALLY they are being treated BETTER than any other American Citizen who breaks the law. How many U.S. citizens do you know, can break the law, admit to it, protest about it....and not be punished unless or until congress decides to re-write the law in an effort to be as fair to THEM as possible. Come on! Just because they took low paying jobs and work hard at them, does not mean that they are free to break the law. And if we allow them to do it, then the country they are so eager to live in will cease to be the country it is supposed to be. \n\nIf what illegal immigrants want to do is to work, raise families, and live in a free society. Then, follow the LEGAL process to do so, learn the language, and the culture, pay your taxes, and become an American the right way!\n\nDon't break the law and then scream victim! You are not victims. The tax payers who support social programs are victims, the people who migrate to this country and become legal citizens are victims. Illegal immigrants are people who made a "CHOICE" to do the WRONG thing, and think they should be excused or rewarded for that choice. I say WAKE UP, take responsibility for your actions, and GET LEGAL or leave.
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well first of all for anyone saying that this is not happening i would like to let u know that this is not the only place in which this has happened and sadly it probably will not be the last .\n\nin my opinion this should concern to all even if u have nothing to do with the issue . the government is not respecting the law they are doing the same in a lot of situations . they do not longer fallowing the rules which are there for a reason (so you as a person are not abused and mistreated by your own government ) . what happened to those immigrants could happen to almost anyone . \n\nnot so long ago in the news they showed how they entered a home and started shooting when a person who was sleeping turn around scared and confused . they killed the guy and then found out that they had entered the wrong house . what an excuse , what a mistake which coasted the life of someone , of someone who was an exemplary member of society , because he was . he used to work every day , used to pay his taxes and never caused any problem to anyone .  \n\ncould this ever happen to you ??? it could happen to anyone if we do not start asking the government to put into effect the laws which all Americans accomplished .
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is Did this really happen.Someone needs to read the papers and just see what  is and has happening in our country. tell them to read about 911 and other security breaches.I do believe that home Land security is following up. they sure as hell wouldn't just let this pass as if it were nothing, or would they
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What an excellent question.\n\nYou would think this event, since it is a kind of natural flowing, self-exiling exercise by the illegals themselves, should provide our politicians a means of regulating our border.\n\nUnfortunately this won't happen.\nMany in D.C. aren't serious about immigration control.\n\nWhat really gets me mad is that thousands of people  are trying LEGALLY to become American citizens and are stonewalled by this same bureaucracy.