“If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them.” (Revised Standard Version)\n\nSurely the whole quote is invalidated when you only accept half of it? Is it only a half-truth?
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Peer pressure influences everybody more than a single text, however sacred it claims to be.\n\nThe Bible was like any piece of writing a product of its sociopolitical context, and this was one where capital punishment of minority groups was much more accepted. Nowadays homophobia is generally more widely perceived to be wrong, and the strength of that pressure means that even something that is supposed to be set in stone is adapted. Quite right too - every idea has to adapt to changing circumstances if it is going to survive. There is no such thing as an Eternal Truth
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I believe when Christians rewrote the Commandment they intended the term "kill" to refer to human beings therefore having the same meaning as the Hebrew.  There is a lot of discussion on defending oneself though.  Jesus said to turn the other cheek in the New Testament.  The early martyrs of the Church did just that.  They didn't fight back when the Romans and others feed them to the lions or tortured them.  They literaly turned the other cheek and went to their deaths, not defending themselves or killing anyone therefore obeying the Commandment"Thy shalt not kill."  Therefore for a lot of Christians, the death penalty and killing that takes place in war is just as abominable as abortion.  Pro Life and Anti abortion are two totally diffferent takes on this commandment. I won't turn this into a debate on that though, but in my opinion, killing another human is wrong no matter what the circumstance.  This is what God told us and He didn't make any footnotes when He gave us the Commandment.  This is my opinion only.
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ok...This is a really sick joke, and I don't like it.  People are probably going to get mad at me for it, but you asked for it so here it goes.\n\nJesus Christ walks into an Inn.  He hands the Innkeeper three nails and asks, "Can you put me up for the night?"\n\nI'm sorry, sorry, sorry, but I was just answering the question(or request).
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3)You wrote, "Our difference is in the interpretation of the data." If the 'data' states specifically, "Every man shall be put to death for his own sin,' how do you interpret that statement to allow for Jesus dying for our sins? It seems to me that your interpretation of Isaiah must be incorrect, or that 'every man shall be put to death for his own sin,' does not mean what it says, or Gd changed His mind somewhere between Deut.24:16 and Isaiah 53.....???\n\n1)You say 'no mortal man can atone,' so who actually did the dying on the cross? Gd cant die, so it was Jesus-the-mortal-man, and so all you have is a human sacrifice, which Gd calls an abomination and something He hates, in Deut 12:30-31!\n\nFOR YOUR QUESTION ABOUT ISAIAH 53, see the BEST ANSWER AT:::\n\nhttp://answers.yahoo.com/question/;_ylt=AqACR_rSjfAqZek.PZv_OM0jzKIX?qid=1005123006794\n\nFOR YOUR QUESTION ABOUT LEV. 17:11, see the web sites i refer you to below.\n\n2)And Jesus being your prophet priest and king, i refer you to what i wrote below, all the theology of Christianity still flies in the face of what Gd already revealed to us through his Bible. Even a Jesus/prophet/priest/king still has not brought about those things the real messiah will do!\n----\nThe basic beliefs of Christianity about Jesus are against what the Bible says, and so Real Jews cannot believe in Jesus at all.\n\nThe Christian understanding is that the Messiah, Jesus, died for the sins of the people. The messiah is supposed to be a human sacrifice that is the blood sacrifice necessary for the forgiveness of sin.\n\nBut we are taught in our Torah that no one can die for the sins of another. In Deuteronomy 24:16 it specifically says this:\n\nDeuteronomy 24:16 The fathers shall not \nbe put to death for the children, neither \nshall the children be put to death for\nthe fathers: \nevery man shall be put to death for his \nown sin (eesh b’chet-o yumatu).\n\nIn Exodus 32:30-35, Moses tries to offer himself to atone for the sins of the people. To be written out of Gd's book, means to be written out of the Book of Life, which means Moses was asking to die for the sins of the People. Gd's response is No, it does not work that way, each man dies for his own sin:\n\nExodus 32:30-35 And it came to pass on the \nmorrow, that Moses said unto the people, \nYe have sinned a great sin: and now I will \ngo up unto the Etrnl; perhaps I shall make \nan atonement for your sin. And Moses \nreturned unto the Etrnl, and said, Oh, \nthis people have sinned a great sin, and \nhave made them gods of gold. Yet now, if \nthou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, \nblot me, I pray thee, out of thy book \nwhich thou hast written. And the Etrnl \nsaid unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned \nagainst me, him will I blot out of my \nbook. \n\nThe whole of chapter 18 of the book of Ezekiel is about this idea, that no one can die for someone else's sin. Further, this chapter of Ezekiel teaches us that all we have to do for Gd's forgiveness is to stop doing the Bad and start doing the Good, and Gd will forgive us:::\n\n             Ezekiel 18:1-4; 20-24; 26-27 .....Behold, all \n             souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so \n             also the soul of the son is mine: the soul \n             that sinneth, it shall die. Eze 18:20 The soul \n             that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not \n             bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall \n             the father bear the iniquity of the son: the \n             righteousness of the righteous shall be upon \n             him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be \n             upon him. But if the wicked will turn from all \n             his sins that he hath committed, and keep all \n             my statutes, and do that which is lawful and \n             right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. \n             All his transgressions that he hath committed, \n             the
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In the Old Testament it says\nLeviticus 18:22\nThou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.\n\nThen in the New estament it says:\n1 Corinthians 6:9\nKnow ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,\n\nDoes that do it for you?   Jim
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And the war over slavery was bloody.  how is this god the same yesterday, today and forever?\n\nslavery is not condemned as hellish, it says,\n\n" do not become slaves of men " and then " slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. "\n\nand how does that work out for you?  submitting to the harsh?\n\nUD:\n\nahc24- you are mad!
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You are not completing these scriptures. Matt: 5:22  reads However, I say to YOU that everyone who continues wrathful with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice; but whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt will be accountable to the Supreme Court; whereas whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Ge·hen′na.\n\nGehenna was a waste heap outside of Jerusalem where the bodies of the dead criminals were burned. This is one of the reasons that man has taught a hell fire doctrine.  Which is not true by the way.  Jesus is talking about non believers and what might happen to them.  Not that it will.  It says liable (or deserving).\n\nMatt: 23:17 Fools and blind ones! Which, in fact, is greater, the gold or the temple that has sanctified the gold?  Meaning spiritual laws or the one who made the laws.  The Jews of Jesus time put more emphasis on obeying the Mosaic laws rather than showing love.  God commands love before the law.\n\nPsalm 14:1The senseless one has said in his heart:\n“There is no God” They have acted ruinously, they have acted detestably in [their] dealing.There is no one doing good. \n\nPeople that claim there is no God are doing so to sooth their consciences.  So they say in their heart "there is no God" and they act detestably in their dealings.\n\nWhy are these contradictory?
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first of all, judaism rejects that the serpent was anything more than a serpent, so thats out. G-d of course said "or you shall die" - thats a generic biblical term for, "I'll be really mad if you do this" and is meant more as a scare tactic than to be taken literally. obviously adam and eve knew this and didn't take it literally either or they would not have eaten the apple with as little hesitation as they did.\n\nthe serpent did tell the partial truth - that they would be able to discern between good and evil. he appealed to their arrogant side by saying they would be like G-d if they ate it, which of course is not true since nobody could be like G-d and the tree didn't grant the power for that either. it wasn't the tree of G-dliness, it was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
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That's a very astute quotation. It says that by keeping someone with a lie, you will hurt them more than if you were to lose them by setting them free with the truth.
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I am reminded of Mark Twain's statements: "Its not the parts of the Bible I don't understand that bother me, its the parts I do."\n\nOften the Bible is so simple that we need help to misunderstand it.
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hmmmm, this will be good!!\n\nFor: GINEVRA1WEASLEY, how is he pulling things of contexts when it's from your very own Bible? 32 (Bible) Scholars couldn't get it right and I doubt that you'll be able to get it right..
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No and if you listen to ignorant people who will just quote the bible at you--then ask them this.--The bible also says that a man should not cut the sides of his hair or trim his beard (Its in Leviticus) It also says it is okay to kill your slaves. Does that make any sense?!? God made us all who we are accept yourself for who you are and enjoy life. It is an adventure and you only get one shot.
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I've read that article and found it funny. I've seen pepole use that before.\nMy opinion, they use parts of the bible that conform to their relgious ideology. Different church in different states that belong to the same religious denomination fall to this. \nSo short answer to your question as I said ideology as each person sees it.
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Yeah! i agree with you 100% and a lot of them that i've talked to claim that it doesn't "SPECIFICALY" say that its wrong in the bible and uhhh hello! Leviticus 18:22, "Do not lie with another man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable." So my advice would be attack them with their own source of their job, the bible and god, also im pretty sure god wouldn't have song of solomon in the bible with a man and a woman instead of two men or two women. I mean c'mon people use some common sense! Like there was this gay guy and his bf that wanted to come to our youth group and we obiously had no prob. w/ it except it was really wierd and he claimed there was nothing wrong with it! HOW DARE HIM! i tried to not get upset and be respectful because its the devil whispering in his ear and ya don't fight fire with fire\n\n\n\n\nGod made adam and eve not adam and steve... lol sry, cheesy :)
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Nope,it's one of those passages that I disagree with.What you quoted was one of many unethical verses in the bible.I don't believe or follow everything I read.
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Well something about these quotes really disturbs me...\n\n"Over one million people worship the devil as a religion."  Really?  Prove it.  I want to see where you got your IMPARTIAL information.\n\n"Anyone who does not believe in God is a sinner and rebuked God when they heard the good news."  So this is what you are saying.  Before you tell these people about your god they are safe because your god is not known to them.  If, however; you tell them about your god and they refuse to believe your "good news of the lord" they are condemned to hell.  Why tell them in the first d@amned place then if you know they are going to go to hell for refusing your god!?\n\n"Lives we can never change"....yeah? tell that the people you just condemned to hell for refusing to believe in your god.\n\n..."and we have an understanding of what is good and bad in our conscience."  Well let me see, you just told a bunch of people who were enjoying their lives without your god and who were safe from the wrath of your god until you told them about your god by condemning them to hell for refusing to believe in your god. How is telling people who don't know your god a good thing again please?\n\n"we all have a sense of survivl instinct."  It's spelled S-U-R-V-I-V-A-L, you idiot. \n\n"Yes things in our culture have been disintergrated because of simple minded people not knowing the facts before they say or do things before the think"...welcome to the Disintegration Club, genius.\n\n==============\n\n...and then there's this one...\n\n==============\n\n“HELLO! "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live...."\n\n"I'M NOT SAYING KILL ALL THE WITCHES.....what I AM saying is God does not approve of witchcraft...”  { Rather than me going off here I think I will just dust off something that Fiona Broome wrote and place it here regarding that little statement}: \n\nThou shalt not suffer a witch to live...? \nedited by Fiona Broome\n\nPeople often ask about the famous line in the Bible, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." (Exodus 22:18) \n\nIt's important to do your own research. However, here's what I've found so far: \n\nJames I was notorious for being paranoid about witches, spells, and so on. This was, in part, due to volatile politics of the time. He had good reason to be nervous. \n\n"His" Bible (the King James Bible) was translated to keep Jamie-boy happy, so they translated the word chasaph--which is Hebrew for poisoner (or, in other contexts, herbalist)-- to mean "witch" instead. \n\nThe real Biblical passage was about the disturbing crime of poisoning in the Jewish community. When that line was originally written, there may have been recent poisonings. Some historians point to this. \n\nHere's an early document, written around 1580 at the time of King James I, protesting the translation of chasaph as "witch." \n\n(And when goode King James discovered what Reginald Scot had said in this book, James first wrote his own book, Daemonologie, a rebuttal to Scot's. Then James ordered his men to find every copy of Scot's book and burn them. It \nwas too late. The Scot book was already in its third printing, widely distributed, and nine more chapters had been added.)\n\n  \nFrom The Discoverie of Witchcraft by Reginald Scot. \n  \nBOOKE VI \n  \nChapter I - The exposition of this Hebrue word Chasaph, wherein is answered the objection conteined in Exodus 22. to wit: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live, and of Simon Magus. Acts. 8. \n  \n(page 64) Chaspah, being a Hebrue word, is Latined Veneficium, and  is in English, poisoning, or witchcraft; if you will so have it. The Hebrue sentence written in Exodus, 22. is by the 70. interpretors translated thus \n  into Greeke, [note: I'll fill this in when I have a Greek font and more time], which in Latine is, \n  \n\n  Veneficos (sive) veneficas non
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If someone is imposing their will on yours, then you may kill that person.  That's how I understood it when I read the Satanic Bible.  The whole book seems to be very self-oriented; if anything offends you, get rid of it.  They are just as nuts as all the other religions.