When America is over-whelmed by the southern plague sneaking in from Mexico, and all the jobs are at the lowest possible wages, and everyone is paid with cash money (under the table of course ),where will the tax base come from? Who will support their free scool? Who will pay for their free food? Where will the money come from for their welfare checks? Who will fund the government? We will be the minority. Will we be taken care of? Will my children be able to go to college for free? What will become of this nation? Will it be as if we're in Mexico? Please tell me who are the Illegals going to mooch off of then.
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I'm supporting them now with my tax dollars, heck I have no clue who will support them after we are overwhelmed unless the commies from China want the job
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OK! I have just about had it with this immigration Bulls**t!!\nLet's get one thing straight here and now.  The US was founded on LEGAL IMMIGRATION, get it?!!  That means people who went through the proper channels (like myself) who lined up and waited to be seen, who had every facet of their private lives invaded during interviews, who waited patiently for their Visas and other documents, who paid the price and who are now helping the economy by paying TAXES as all other legal Americans do.\n\nFallacy number 1: The US needs illegal immigrants: yeah just like the average human being needs a new @sshole where their forehead used to be!!!  The US does NOT need illegal immigrants, in fact the opposite is true... all of you who feel that illegal immigrants are more worthy of government benefits and taxpayer subsidized lifestyles raise your hands... if your hands are currently in the air - your boat leaves the NY harbor this evening - don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out - perhaps Mexico will support you in return for all of the illegals that we have taken in.\n\nFallacy number 2:  Illegals do the work that lazy Americans won't do...truth: the "lazy Americans" will do any job that the GREEDY @ssed fruit farmers will pay a decent wage for!!! the difference between an American working for $5.00 an hour and an illegal Mexican working for $5.00 an hour is about $1.75 an hour TAX which the American can go to jail for not paying whilst the ILLEGAL Mexican wants everyone to hold hands and sing about how he is having a hard time getting the "lazy American" to pay his 5 kids healthcare and college funds.\n\nLet's all get a grip on reality... Americans have NOTHING against immigrants no matter where they come from - what we have a problem with is a bunch of whiny @ssed illegals circumventing the system and slapping every LAW ABIDING LEGAL immigrant in the face along the way.\n\nNow I have a question:  There were a reported 20,000 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS (aka fugitive felons) openly walking around as a crowd in California on Monday...where the hell were the border patrol and INS??? what exactly do we pay taxes for if they can scoop them up by the bucket load and there is not one damned immigration enforcement agent in sight???\n\nAnd yet again... with regards to the answer below:  The US railroad was not built by the US Government but by greedy @ssed private companies that used slave labor - not immigrant labor - true, not every facet of American history is a rosy picture, but then neither is the history of ANY country.  Mexico sent 5,000 troops against a pitiful handful of men led by a terminally ill officer, that were holed up in a CHURCH (hmmm... attacking a holy place with enough men to outnumber it's defenders 50-1, now that's what I call courage!!!), the fact of the matter is that there is not enough government money to go around amongst those who are here legally so why should we stretch the pot further to cover those who have no legal right to be here?\nIf you feel that these poor fugitive felons deserve your love and attention then you put them up - on your dime without any help from the government... a small point of note for you, as a LEGAL immigrant, my wife had to sign a document called an affidavit of support - this document DENIES me the right to receive ANY government benefit... PERIOD, and I entered the country LEGALLY... so you tell me why it is fair to pay healthcare and education, and to subsidize the lifestyles of those who would choose to break our laws whereas those who wish to abide by them get screwed by you the people..... if you want to reform immigration laws then go ahead, you have my unwavering support, provided that is, that you are changing the laws for LEGAL immigrants not illegal aliens.\n\nOh! and when we become full to capacity in this country to the point that laws are passed governing whether or not you may legally procreate (big grown-up word for have
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Don't go hating on illegal immigrants so much.  They are people just like you and me.  I grew up in Texas not too far from Mexico, and I have to say that they are some of the hardest working people I know.  I'm not trying to say that they shoudn't pay taxes or anything like that.  You do have some valid points about how they should have to pay taxes and all, but I think you might be a little too extreme.  Would you like to be in their position?  I do agree though that our system needs to be revised to fix some of the problems that we have today, and I think it can be done fairly so that everyone benefits.  I don't have that solution though.
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Mexico is becoming less and less socialist and more capitalist all the time, so the prospect of the country following Central America´s example is low.  What will the US do for wage slaves?  If anything, wages will be forced to go up and citizens and legal residents will reap the benefits.
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" (i'm sure most of these comments are from people who are on the assistance and aren't working"\n\nWrong Answer Sweetie\n\nCITIZEN TAXPAYERS Fund The VERY Systems That Your Shootin Your UNINFORMED Mouth Off About\n\nHEALTH, EDUCATION, And WELFARE Are Set Up For, And FUNDED By\nTAXPAYERS So The Children Of CITIZENS Get Medical Benefits,\nAnd The Children Of CITIZENS Get An Education, And The Children Of CITIZENS Get Welfare Benefits (WIC Etc.)\n\nIts NOT Set Up For ILLEGAL Immigrants To Have Their Babies So They Can Get Free Benefits Out Of The Pockets Of TAXPAYERS\n\nThose Programs Are There For CITIZENS And WE THE PEOPLE Are NOT Going To Allow You To Take ADVANTAGE Of Us Any Longer\n\n\nLet Me FURTHER Educate Your Dumb@$$ And  Explain To You That Unemployment IS NOT HIGH\n\nILLEGAL Immigrants Comprise 5 Percent Of The Workforce\nAnd The Unemployment Rate Is 4.7 Percent\n\nCan YOU Do The Math??? Let Me Do It FOR You\nDEPORT ALL ILLEGALS--Unemployment Drops To ZERO \n\nStop BASHING Hardworking American Citizens\n\nGet An Education, Youve Got ALOT To Learn
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Don't worry...it will all be OK.  Everything will cost us nothing because millions of illegals are sneaking into the country, taking low-wage jobs that nobody even wants, paying no taxes, using our infrastructure, etc.\n\nThis means that you won't need any money because everything will be free.  For example, gas is now $3 a gallon and a house costs $500k.  See?  Everything just gets cheaper and cheaper!
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Mexico is all for their citizens slipping into our country and 'earning' money to bring back to their country.. what better and easier way to bring in the bucks and help their economy? As a matter of fact, the Mexican government, for the past few years, has been issuing a pamphlet to it's citizens instructing them on how to 'avoid injury and possible death' when crossing the border to search for employment.  OUR government knew about this pamphlet all along but did nothing until just recently when American citizens began raising hell about it.  EACH illegal who comes to this country takes IN approximately $2700. MORE than they pay out in taxes.. IF they pay any at all.  That totals to somewhere around $10 BILLION dollars each year! OUR government.. WE taxpayers.. are shipping $10 BILLION to Mexico for nothing!  Illegals put a strain on our system that is very near to breaking it.. they stress our hospitals [they have no insurance], they stress our schools [we have no government allotments for non-citizens but they still gain something resembling an education] and they put a nearly choking stress on our penal and judicial systems. Where illegals gather, the crime rate jumps nearly 75% in some places.  And as if all of that weren't bad enough, illegals are solely responsible for actually bringing LEPROSY back into this country..among many other untreated and untested diseases.  We MUST do something!  Each one of us has the power to make a difference.. at the very least we vote out the members of our government who turn a blind eye to this problem.. but even better.. raise your voice! Write your representatives.. again and again ..for as long as it takes to make them listen.  If we sit idly by and do nothing.. then we have no one to blame when the primary language in this country becomes Spanish.
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"Who, else is gonna help bring the crops in at 4.00 an hour and not complain? "  Since minimum wage is $5.15/hour, the farmers are breaking the law.\n\nIllegals draw welfare by stealing people's social security numbers and identities. That means there are a lot of people being directly hurt by these people as well. Innocent people are having their credit ratings ruined, having IRS problems, and social security problems. If someone who has had their social security number stolen gets married, if either spouse dies or become disabled then they can be denied their benefits. \n\nMy family moved to the US before WWII. Those of my family that didn't make it over got killed by the death camps. Our family assimilated to the American culture. We didn't expect the Americans to change to suit us. The illegal immigrants from Mexico are not civilized like that.\n\nThey not only changed the National Anthem to Spanish, they changed the words. They already burn our flag and hang our flag upside down. They waved the Mexican flag during a lot of their protests. Some schools have stopped hanging the American flag and forbidden students from wearing clothes with any part of the American flag on their clothing all to keep from offending the Mexicans. It's nothing short of an attack of our country, not only by the illegal aliens, but those who seek to appease them. \n\nI am tired of the stereotype that Americans wouldn't do the work that illegals do. Illegals do all kinds of jobs for less than minimum wage which drives the wages down for U.S. citizens. Construction jobs are an example. There are lots of illegals doing construction jobs that Americans used to do because the companies can keep more of the profits if they pay less for the workers. All that does is make companies wealthier and Americans poorer. Illegals are stealing jobs that Americans have done for years. \n\nIf you go to a country and refuse to assimilate, continuing to speak your own language then you are really not an immigrant -- you're a colonist ... and that's what the Mexicans are doing, they're colonizing the American Southwest as part of their "reconquista" Read about mecha in the link I provided and you'll see what the Mexicans real agenda is.\n\nhttp://www.americanpatrol.com/MECHA/MEChAindex.html
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First of all you need to define your terms. in your question you stated "hate" and "illegal". In your support, you stated "immigrants". There is a VERY large difference.\n\nBasically that illegals are here ILLEGALLY!\n\nIt appears that your statements are based on a vile dislike of the word "Republican". Illegals do not steal the jobs of fat cat Republicans, they steal them from the high school kid next door trying to save for college or buy his first car. they steal from the public because they demand serviuces and goods but are not taxed to support those goods and services. In essence, they arent pulling their own weight. Are you stating that you approve of freeloaders? \n\nAs an aside, did you know that if you added up the number of people who you consider fat cats, did you know that 3 of every 4 fat cats are liberal democrats, as stated by the federal General Accounting Office? I use the word "rich" here, and i define it as anyone making over half a million dollars a year.\n\nSo i recommend that you define your terms and your position before you go firing volleys based on hate, and make sure your arguments are complete and accurate.
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the money we spend on "illegal immigrants" healthcare education etc. is a sliver of a fraction compared to what we spend in Iraq... acheiving nothing.... \n\nIf it's jobs everybody is worried about, perhaps they should focus on the real problem... which is proper enforcement of labor laws... and ending loopholes for the megacorps. profitting (and donating to  politicians) from using (exploiting) a cheap labor force.\n\nI read somewhere that every new imigrant population tries to rewrite what an immigrant is... to look down on the next person coming in... well if this is thee land of opportunity built on the wealth of ideas and richness of culture that a true melting pot would thrive on, move on, move up... \n\nbefore "we" blamed Mexicans, "we" blamed outsourcing to asia and india, "we've" blamed African Americans for hundreds of years, and before that "we" blamed eastern europeans, before that "we" blamed the jews, before that "we" blamed the Irish, before that "we" blamed the Germans, Before that "we" blamed the catholics, before that "we" blamed colonialist England, before that "we" didn't exist. \n\n"we" as in the collective group of illegal immigrants that have come to this continent in the last 350 some years.. The only people who ever got really screwed by Illegal imigrants were/ are the native americans.\n\nSo next, we'll probably b***** about all the middle-eastern refugees who are going to be fleeing that mess when it's all over, or whoever else comes to the land of opportunity to try to improve their lives.... or rather, whoever just makes a good scapegoat....
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Mexican illegals are almost in mayority poor people without education. People like these are always being taken advantage of by U.S. business owners getting the low paying jobs no american would accept, and by the Mexican goverment allowing them to travel in most cases risking their lives to the U.S. so that they earn some dollars and send them to their families. And sooner or later, directly or inderectly, mexican polititians get the money. Now that few dollars multiplied by millions of mexican workers becomes Mexico politiians´third largest income. \nThe illigal immigration is wrong, but it has been this way everywhere ever since there are borders; all rich countries have a poor neighbor, and they allways permit a number of "illegal immigrants" to cover all the unwanted jobs but when the immigrants become too many, then it becomes a problem. There is a price to pay if one wants a cheep labour force and the U.S. is paying it. White americans have not learned from the past, when they bought africans to be their cheap labour force once, and now they have had to learn to live with african americans, and that was the price. This time they permitted the Mexicans for cheap labour and now they they will have to learn to live with a large number of latin american immigrants. Now, remember that americans were illigal immigrants in the northern part of Mexico but with the help of a corrupt Mexican president payed a small sum, managed to keep all that territory that became California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas. How much has the U.S. really gained from those states that were once Mexico??? Did Mexico not lose??\nNow, that is the way it is, and borders are the way they are,  but at least some U.S. citizens should not be so cruel when they talk about "illegal immigrants". These are just poor desperate people trying to survive economicaly since they have no posibility in their "pueblitos". A "funny" thing is that the cruelest comments I´ve read seem to be from descendants of poor immigrants.
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Many Americans work for minimum wage or just a little more. There has been shows on it. And on Oprah once a guy and his wife tried to live on min wage together (both working) and they couldn't. One hospital visit wiped them out. \n I believe many live this way in Mexico--no all-and they do have a big middle class. Just like here, we have many poor. Somehow they feel it is wrong for them to live -poor.\n And they come here. The trouble is-it is hurting our poor-who can never get a good cost of living raise. And they are entitle to more  benefits than most can get. So in a sense their poor are pushing are poor into homelessness. And they are creating more to be poor here..And our middle class is feeling the pain too.\n I am sorry but I feel they have to be poor there and learn to make do with what they have. We do. My purse is about empty and their not helping me. I want a future too.\n If they were truly starving-than please eat. Your in dire need of Medical -go to a hospital. but just to want more-no.\n  I can't help the world-be nice if I could.\n  \nMaybe they need to take those lawn jobs, and maid jobs-and go work at Mexico's resorts. Move there-they have high employee turnover too and often need help. Or do what the rest of us do--make do in there own country.
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WHEN ALL The ILLEGALs Get Deported, \nThe US unemployment rate will drop close to zero, \nand wages will begin to rise. \nThe American middle class will begin to return to viability, \nand so will the Union Movement in this nation.\n**************\n\n***In Response To blindgaurdian23\nwhat u think America is gonna spend billions of American dollars to kick out the "illegals"- \n\nNO COST For Deportation - You Go Home Yourself\n\nCongress will pass a law that says, quite simply, that the CEO(ANY EMPLOYER)of any business that is caught employing ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS will Go to jail for a year - (HR4437)\nNO EXCEPTIONS - \nWithin a month there will be ten million (more or less) people lined up at the Mexican border trying to get out of the United States And Back To Whatever Country They Came From.\nNo Work = No Stay\nNo Deportation Costs\n\nStart Walkin Hombre - doesn't it make YOU sic -  ahahah lol
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You are 100% correct.  As soon as the illegals become legal, they will demand more wages.  That puts us right back where we started.
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You are a freaking basket case, Lady!!\nIllegals first off are ILLEGAL\n-pay taxes using stolen ID cards, or don't pay at all, earning wages in CASH\n-buy with cash, paying ONLY sales tax. oh,woo\n-spend money they saved by getting food stamps\n-too bad they can't use those so-called good work skills to clean up their own country\n-volunteer in all Hispanic communities, bad mouthing AMERICANS, vomiting out your LaRaza propaganda\n-they(you) speak the language of your latino country, not the National Language of the USA!!  WE speak ENGLISH HERE! Learn it or leave!! BE@nF@rt!!\n\nAlberto   You mean you depraved perverts try to breed WITH dogs and probably cats and donkeys, too!! SO, THATS where that smell comes from ,(donkeys)!!!!\n\nAs stated on the other question you mimicked:\nheres what they do:\n-have kids we all pay for\n-send the money they make back to their countries to help their own families\n-have kids that take up space in our schools that our own tax-paying families desperately need\n-play soccer 24-7\n-have kids that require medical care that even some of our own American tax-paying families dont have\n-eat and shop only in their own inner circles
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Are you still Talking the "JOBS AMERICANS WONT DO" Bullshit.I like millions of other poor americans have done the very work people claim only immigrants do.Ive always done what i has too, to put a roof over my head and food on my table.Yet ive actually worked for less and payed taxes on less wages.Have you ever seen what happens to a $200 check after taxes? I have.It works out to be less than the cash jobs alot of illegals do.Are you blind or do you not even realize there is such a thing as "Poor Americans"
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That's why this new bill was so flawed because the reality is, once amnesty is granted A) if your employer keeps you (don't forget this a huge part of the prob too) he has to start filing your wages with the IRS and he's hit with a  big tax bill, B) You start paying taxes and the money isn't near what it was when you were paid under the table, and if you have provable income you're no longer eligible for the free medical benefits that we are currently paying for.  And as much as everyone wants to blame the Democrats on this one, Republicans are every bit as much to blame because the Agriculture industry (the 2nd biggest industry in this nation!) is their bread a butter.  If you remember back to May when this was the huge debate it was the Repubs that were making all the noise, Democrats were being kind of stupidly mute (and it would have been a really good time for them to take the lead on stopping this nonsense of illegal immigration)