i have been trying to listen to the news, but am a little confused. are they trying to make illegal entry into this country a felony? are thry tring to make some kind of work agreement between our two countrys?
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Heres A Summary Of HR 4437\n\nhttp://www.justiceforimmigrants.org/HR4437.html
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Yeppers, november can't get here fast enough...and if the democrats have their hats on straight, they'll be pushing for nailing the damn border shut. TIGHT. Americans are getting robbed, that's all there is to it, the politicians got us coming, and going, it's time for reform, and for people to reclaim their lives, their wallets, their freedoms, and stop letting the hispanic lobby from trying to usurp our national independence. They're actively involved in our government, as you just illustrated, and Mexico needs to stand up, and wipe its' own ass instead of living off the United States Of America. Let's de-globalize a bit, and let the rest of the world take care of itself, for a change. If they can't, well, sucks to be them...
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Sensenbrenner KNOWS Exactly What He Is Trying To Do\nUnfortunately, The Senate WONT LET HIM\n\nThe Third Provision Of The Sensenbrenner Bill (HR4437) States:\n\nAnyone or any organization who “assists” an individual without documentation “to reside in or remain” in the United States knowingly or with “reckless disregard” as to the individual’s legal status would be liable for criminal penalties and five years in prison. This could include church personnel who provide shelter or other basic needs assistance to an undocumented individual. Property used in this act would be subject to seizure and forfeiture.\nhttp://www.justiceforimmigrants.org/HR4437.html\n\n5 Years In Prison Is A Big Deterrent\nNo Employer In His Right Mind Will Hire Illegal Aliens\n\nAnd This Provision Also Addresses\nRemoving ALL BENEFITS (Social Services) FROM ILLEGALS \n\nIf This One Provision Of The Reform Bill Is Passed, \nWithin a month there WILL be ten million (more or less) people lined up at the Mexican border trying to get out of the United States And Back To Whatever Country They Came From.\n\nNo Work = No Stay\nWe Wont Have To Deport Anyone,\nNo Deportation Costs \nTheyll Go Home Themselves\n\nNo Work = No Come Back\nWe Wont Have To Build A Fortress Wall On Our Southern Border \n\nThis Provision Is The EASIEST, \nMost COST EFFECTIVE Solution \nTo Our Nations ILLEGAL Alien Crisis\n\nNo Other Legislation Will Be Needed \nIf THIS PARAGRAPH Was Passed Into Law
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How are we going to deal "fairly and generously" with the 11 million that have come and lived here for a significant period? Have all 11 million lived here for a significant period? And exactly WHAT does significant period mean? \n\nBy all means, secure the borders first to prevent a further influx of illegals, then address the problem of the ones inside our borders.  How are we going to determine how long any one of them has been here? Do you think any of the illegals are going to say, "Oh, I just got here last month"? \n\nPut them in jail and make them work to pay a stiff fine.  Once their fine is paid, use the money to ship them back to wherever they came from.  Make the fine contingent upon how long they've been here, if that can be determined. The problem with that solution, is what to do with the children.  Possibly send dad to jail to work off the penalty for the entire family, leave Mom at home to take care of the kids.  How will they survive? Mom can't work and take care of the kids at the same time, and if she's illegal, she's not allowed to work at all. Welfare? That would add to Dad's jail time, paying it back.  Send the family back to wherever they came from? That sounds most logical, and dad stays in jail and works until their passage is paid.\n\nAnd I don't care if they are from Mexico or Timbuktu.  They are illegals.
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Because the new bill will make it a felony to be in the country illegally.  It will also be a felony to hire someone who is illegally in the United States.
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I have read similar articles! All ILLEGALS are criminals,just by sneaking into the country, then we have a  MAJORITY of illegals that have committed OTHER crimes, just like these in the article!!!!! They ALL need to be DEPORTED!!!!!!!!
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I've read some of the comments on here by others,and they do not want to see the TRUTH!!!!! Since i live in a border state,(Arizona),i know exactly what you mean!!!! Just today,i was reading an article about four people being killed,because of ILLEGALS trying to run from the police,when they tried to stop them!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the incidents involving illegals,has really been INCREASING,since all the talk of amnesty!!!!!!!!!!!\n\n Some people on here have said, "Americans commit a lot of crimes too"!! And,while this is TRUE,there is nothing we can do to American citizens,except lock them up!!! It's not like we can deport THEM!!!!\n\n But,the thing is, the ILLEGALS should NOT be here in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If they were not here,these crimes would NEVER have happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I agree with you... it seems like the media likes to turn it into something more controversial than it already is.  You are right, we are not targeting Mexicans... we are targeting all ILLEGAL immigrants.  I don't get it.  Now, the Senate has reopened a bill that will allow this "guest worker program" that will grant all illegal immigrants citizenship.  It's a slap in the face for those who seek citizenship LEGALLY and had to wait in line.  \n\nCALL or email your congressman... or even the White House.  Looks like they want to pass this bill by Memorial Day.  What a tragedy for America.  This is going to lead to more illegal people coming over and eventually DEMANDING citizenship - why make laws if they are not enforced particularly ones that are meant to keep us safe?  We might as well make it a free for all and open our doors to anyone, regardless of who they are or what they have done.  I mean that is what we are doing now...
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Mendi if you open your yahoo browser and put in 'immigration' and 'border security' it will come up.  I saw it on the main stream press.  They are trying to get help from their government.  It was such a problem the US started spending more to drop people further into the interior, to make it easier.\n\nhere: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060617/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/mexico_no_way_home_3
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It will still be the issue of enforcement. We have a guest worker program. If they enforced the laws we would not be in this situation.
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I have a lot of friends from Pueblo.That doesn't change the fact that they are illegal.Some I taught English to and they taught me Espanol.There are even some that I helped set on the right foot towards citizenship.You know as well as I do that you should have gotton your citizenship by now.Those that I helped are on their way.I'm proud to call them Americans.A friend of mine from Ecuador just recently returned from the Gulf Coast.So it's not only Mexicans that Cross the border.It' not only you that we are trying to curb it's all of South America.Not only do we have an influx from you but from all over the world.Drugs,illegal weapons,female slavery and a host of other cancers that we can't see yet cross with those illegals.We have to secure our borders,all of them.If you are serious seek an Abagado.I think that's how you refer to an Attorney.I have friends from all over the world seeking citizenship the proper way.WHY CAN'T MEXICO AND YOU.GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND I MEAN THAT
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I'm with you.  I just can't understand why this is allowed to happen.  I just keep asking, "what part of illegal are they having trouble with"?  And as far as the government is concerned, what can I say?  The whole thing just frosts me.  I almost never vote for an incumbent and after this I may remove the word "almost" from that statement.\n\nI'm sure you understand that if we legalize all of them right now, it will only lead to more illegals entering to take the $.50 an hour jobs these folks will no longer qualify for.  \n\nI give up.  I am so flustered I can't even make sense of my own thoughts.
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I feel like it's a slap in the face to every person who has immigrated here legally. What really frosts me is that this is also an amnesty for the employers who have enjoyed the unfair competitive advantage of hiring illegals over the past years. How can an honest business person stay in business when your competitor's payroll expenses are 50% less than yours?
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I started poking around the site and found some of the other things about NAFTA, FTAA and SPP.  It really is scary that so many people do not understand what is happening to our country.  A lot of people will call you a bigot or a hate monger if you say something about illegals.  I really have more of a problem with the government lying and saying they are doing something about the illegal immigration.  The fact is, they let it happen because it is part of the broader plan to make Canada/United States/Mexico one economic entity.  This will at some point lead to one country.  And they sit there and say you are unpatriotic if you don't support the war in Iraq!  In the meantime they are stabbing the American public in the back and selling them down the river.  I must reiterate, I don't hate the illegals.  I hate those that have let our borders turn into a "free trade zone".
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well,thats what I've been trying to get across.But some ppl don't understand basic english.The only defense they have is that illegals brake the law,don't pay taxes,and commit crimes.1)Americans break the law too,so should we send them back to whatever country they originated from?Or would it be easier to pay a fine?So why can't illegals pay the fines for entering illegally?It's not like they killed someone coming here.2)Every job that pays by checks take out taxes.No matter what kind of SS# you give them,taxes will be taken out.AND,there are tax ID#s now.And if a company doesn't take taxes out on their employees,its not the workers fault--it's the employers.3)Every race has ppl that commit crimes.And if a persons biggest crime is entering here illegally,then I think thats pretty good considering all the american drug dealers,pedophiles,rapists,etc. that are living here now.\n\nI hope you realize you're not the only one who thinks as you do.Good Luck!
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I recently read this article in the Chicago Sun Times.  It is both enlightening and scary.  I am living overseas temporarily, but I often wonder what I'll return to when I do come home.  The US is not what it used to be.  Here's the article:\n\nNo easy answers on immigration conundrum \nApril 9, 2006 \nBY MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST  \n \nHere's my immigration "compromise": We need to regularize the situation of the 298 million non-undocumented residents of the United States. Right now, we get a lousy deal compared with the 15 million fine upstanding members of the Undocumented American community. I think the 298 million of us in the overdocumented segment of the population should get the chance to be undocumented. You know when President Bush talks about all those undocumented people "living in the shadows"? Doesn't that sound kinda nice? Living in the shadows, no government agencies harassing you for taxes and numbers and paperwork. \nGo ahead, try it. In Michelle Malkin's book Invasion, she recounts the tale of two fellows who in August 2001 pulled into a 7-Eleven parking lot in Falls Church, Va., in search of fake ID from the illegal-alien assistance network that hangs around there. Luis Martinez-Flores, who'd been living here illegally since 1994, took them along to the local DMV, supplied them with a fake address and falsely certified they lived there. The very next day, the two guys returned with two pals of their own, and used their own brand-new state ID on which the ink was not yet dry to obtain in turn brand-new state ID for their buddies. A couple of weeks later, all four of them used their Virginia ID to board American Airlines Flight 77 at Dulles Airport and plowed it into the Pentagon. \nThink about that. From undocumented illegal alien in the 7-Eleven parking lot to lawful resident of the State of Virginia in just a couple of hours. Wow. Say what you like about Luis Martinez-Flores, but he runs one efficient operation. \nBy comparison, say you've got two kids under 5, and you'd like to bring over a nice English nanny to look after them. Name of Mary Poppins. Good references, impeccable character. If you apply now, there's a sporting chance the process may be completed before your children's children are in college. \nGiven that the new immigration "compromise" bill retrospectively approves all the millions of people who've been through the super-efficient Luis Martinez-Flores immigration system but without doing anything to improve the sclerotic U.S. government immigration system, maybe it would be better just to subcontract the entire operation to Senor Martinez-Flores and his colleagues. It would certainly be cheaper. The extensive Undocumented American support network manages to run it out of the back of the car from a parking lot without a lot of air-conditioned offices full of lifetime employees on government pensions, and given that the net result is exactly the same people who'd be living here anyway, why not go with the lowball bid? Legal immigrants to the United States can only envy the swift efficient service Messrs. Hani Hanjour and Khalid Almihdhar received outside that 7-Eleven. \nAll developed countries have immigration issues, but few conduct the entire debate as disingenuously as America does: The president himself has contributed a whole barrelful of weaselly platitudes, beginning with his line that "family values don't stop at the Rio Grande." True. They don't stop at the 49th parallel either. Or the Atlantic shore. Or the Pacific. So where do family values stop? At the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services. If you're an American and you marry a Canadian or Belgian or Fijian, the U.S. government can take years to process what's supposed to be a non-discretionary immigration application, in the course of which your spouse will be dependent on various transitional-status forms like
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Immigration is a joke........As I have mentioned many times before. ICE.... INS.... whatever they call themselves these days needs to be completely torn down and edified with specific departments with specific job details... They must be held accountable for their work ethics. You for example as a law abiding citizen (hopefully) do not have racist reasons for reporting someone does not even know who to report them too.... This bureaucratic monster of a department does not serve the Public in its work... nor does it serve its purpose in granting work permits for those who have applied.... what good are they? They have the attitude that I will get to them when I get to them not just to the people who they are supposed to serve .... But to the USA citizen who in essence supplies them with that paycheck that they do not earn..... Heads up...... Rebuild this monster of a department while building this wall across the border.