I personally am for it. Both sides of my family came here illegaly decades ago, I'm 4th or 5th generation american, but illegaly crossing the border is way out of control. Anyone living in California can see that. And any jobs opened by the illegals getting deported, I'm sure the homeless could fill. America is the land of oportunity, but people are misusing our generosity. If I had enough money I would go and help the minute men patrol the border. I don't and will never feel sorry for all the people who get deported because of this law. Hundreds of people become a U.S. citizen legally, the illegals really ruin the whole system for anyone trying to get here the right way.
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I support the immigration bill & also fully agree with you.  Also, all illegals should have to pass the laws & tests we now have to become LEGAL through naturalization, once they follow the rest of the new bill.  Flooding the country with millions of unskilled laborers is hurting our economy by not allowing U.S. citizens to have jobs for their families.  Millions of other immigrants came to this country & didn't demand to have U. S. citizens or the government able to speak their language.  I was born in America. My grandfather came from Asia LEGALLY & could not speak English.  He did not demand anyone to speak his native tongue nor did any other Asian.  When he got to the then U. S. territory of Hawaii he had to work in the sugar cane fields carrying 100 lb. bundles of sugar cane on his back all day long after cutting the cane down.  Today, I don't see any signs saying, "We speak Vietnamese, or We speak Japanese, or We speak Korean, or We speak Laotian, or We speak Cambodian."   Nor do I see any signs saying, "We speak German, or We speak French, or We speak Danish, or We speak Norwegian, or We speak Russian."  So I'm sick of seeing signs saying, "Se Habla Espanol."  No one should be treated as a privileged character, especially ILLEGALS.
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never could've said it better.\n\nmy family and i are immigrants, too, but we all came here with appropriate visas - we didn't cross borders, climb fences, or swim across channels...we worked here with appropriate documentation/work permits, paid taxes, and did not misuse the benefits system...that's why i take the same stance and feel very strongly against illegal immigration.
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Though this isn't a question, I decided to comment.\n\nFor the most part I agree. Yes if you are anywhere illegally it would only make sense that you should be placed back where your are legally allowed to be. And as for our government they don't want to go along with that because it would make them unfavorable to the illegal immigrant vote. Wait did I just say the illegal immigrant vote? Yes...the politicians are worried they won't be voted in by people who can't vote anyway (or shouldn't, though I know fraudulent ID goes a long way).\n\nLaws however are drawn up by use of an underlying moral code. Why is it illegal to murder, rape or rob someone? Because morally it is incorrect. Morally it is correct to believe someone belongs in their own country unless they are given legal permission to be in another country.\n\nLegal permission is the whole point of the matter, I don't care if you want to come to America and make money, by all means do it, this is the land of opportunity. Just check-in on your way across the border. It really shouldn't be so difficult to make sure we are letting people with pure intentions cross over on to our side of the border. If this means you will have to fill out a form, be fingerprinted, and questioned, so be it. It is to all of our benefits to make sure this happens, we don't want to let the wrong person (Terrorists for example) across our borders to kill us (American citizens) and you (the immigrant who is here to cash in legally on America's boundless oppertunities).
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I don't think so. Whose gonna do the unwanted jobs then? Easy for some people to say yes but they wouldn't dare do the jobs these people do. Did you ever think that some of these people came here legally to be able to support their families but majority of them ended up being abused by their employers so they ended up illegals? I have heard a lot of stories and verified them. Some of the bad things that happened to them were done by by our fellow Americans and you talk of having electric fences? What's the matter with you? I bet your ancestors would love to hear your comments when they came here as immigrants too. If they'd have known what the future generation would be maybe they would have aborted you.
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Truthfully, I feel that Illegal immigrants especially the ones who have been here many years. Have families, jobs (As bad s some may be.) These illegal immigrants HAVE ALREADY PAID THEIR DUES!!! \n\nYes, they came here illegally and that is wrong. But our country wasn't exactly founded on Honesty. In fact in alot of ways, we play CUT-THROAT!!! \n\nThe illegal immigrants are a great part of this country and I do not believe this country could survive without them, because they do the crap jobs that AMERICAN's don't want. \n\nI am talking jobs well below, "Would You Like Fries With That?" Most American's Stick up their Noses at, Mcdonalds. Why are you fighing for the job to become a migrant farm worker or clean someone's toliet. \n\n\nif we took the illegal immigrants out of our country and I DO MEAN ALL OF THEM....This country could not run!!!! \n\nThe Arabs own 6percent of America. If you took them out of the picture, this country could not run.....\n\nBecause, those berries you may love won't be picked, those green bell peppers won't be eaten, because they won't be picked and so on......\n\nSo we couldn't meet the supply in demand. \n\nThat is why I say that these people have paid their dues and continue to everyday......\n\nI think deportation should be reserved for people who come here and can't adapt to the way of life here. If you've been here ten years and the only eglish word you know and understand is, HI!!! You should go home.....\n\n\nWhich alot of people do cross our borders with preconcieved thoughts and realize our way of life isn't so great afterall. They feel that they can't go back. These people should be deported...\n\n\nTroublemakers should be deported. \n\nAlot who cross the borders do just fine in America and those who contribute to our broad land whether it'd be picking berries or cleaning toliets should be given citizenship, because they are productive members of society.  \n\nEven more on the up and up alot of these, "illegal" immigrants who have older children that were bornin this country, run resturants, Bodegas and much more. Some make a very livable wage or better with family effort. \n\nSo "Illegal" immigrants if they can adapt to American life should be made citizens and should be allowed to stay. \n\nOne of my neighbor's here in Hawaii was an "Illegal" immigrant in 1962 (I think she crossed the boarder.) I should would miss her Mexian home-cooking and Hot Tamales. If they deported her, after 40 something years of living in America. She speaks english, she's married now so I don't think she is illegal anymore. She has children and has built a life here. It'd be a disappointment to see people like her go!\n\nOnce they are citizens, they pay, TAXES!!!!
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I am completely for the new bill.It will benefit America greatly..Even economists,agree.It is time America start enforcing, what it preaches.If you commit a crime, you pay for it!Bottom Line!If you come illegally...you should be treated like any other criminal!Good for the US Govt.Finally cracking down!
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Businesses are the true criminals here. Those who come here illegally to have a better way of life wouldn't come if no one hired them. And no one would hire them if they couldn't do it cheaply and without any insurance. And the illegal immigrants aren't trying to hurt any one but they need a certain amount to live and the businesses just don't pay enough...so the rest of us have to pick up the slack through our taxes while the businesses line their pockets with the profits from the underpaid workers. The only thing we can do is:\n\n1) legislate (yeah, right. like the businesses don't have our government in their pockets.)\n\n2) boycott (Can we really boycott everyone? Nope.)\n\n3) Ignore the problem and hope it doesn't cause the earth to stop spinning and that USA still means the same thing 20 years from now.\n\nHey junior_03yes (BELOW): You must be from California, because there are white farm workers all over this nation...just nut here in CA. You should get yourself an RV and do a little road trip.
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your right. i don't think Americans should stand in line to any illegal. this is are country. maybe every American should start working under the table, don't pay taxes. and watch everything go down hill.
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I am very pro-illegal... and I used to not be... but since I moved to Los Angeles, my view of what an illegal immigrant does differs from what I thought it was...\n\n1.  If you see a panhandler or a begger, what do those signs always say?  Vietnam Vet, or something to that effect... and they're very rarely hispanic... Go to any homeless shelter, and tell me the racial demographics of the homeless, the alcoholics and the drug addicted that roam the streets... They are mostly American Citizens, who contribute less than nothing to the US...\n\n2.  They are always working, whether they are selling fruit near a highway entrance, or washing dishes, or picking produce.  When people talk about hispanics, they always say they're taking our jobs... b/c they're willing to work hard for them, while Citizens believe that they are entitled to the jobs just b/c they are citizens...\n\n3.  They drain our welfare system... Believe it our not, it's very hard to receive federal assistance without a SSN... There are a programs to help with the poverty stricken in general.  Also If we were to legalize them, they have to produce financial documents stating that they will NOT receive any form of federal assistance... so if we DON'T want them getting any more federal assistance... legalize them... \n\n4.  They are criminals and bring drugs and gangs into the US... Well people of all color and race do drugs and join gangs... so as long as they are people, there will be some good ones and some bad ones... but to classify an entire race due to the actions of a few, is not fair\n\n5.  They will be a financial strain? NO! B/C they will now pay taxes, and they cannot fake the number of dependants, b/c they all the SSN... Also the estimated 60+ million (Which is the latest and most accurate number to date, but ofcourse it's all guessing... )  would have to PAY to receive Amnesty.  Right now to become a Citizen LEGALLY costs anywhere for 700 - 1000$ for filing ONLY, if you hire a lawyer, it could be MORE... So for example only 30million are actually able to receive amnesty... they will pay lets say 1000 each... that would be 30 billion dollars in revenue... not to mention new jobs created to handle the paperwork, as well as more work for lawyers, which creates more work for paralegals, which creates more schools for paralegals, which creates more jobs for those working at the schools, which creates more jobs for day care centers.. you get my point?\n\nGranted there are problems with Amnesty.. I know there will be problems with Medical care, housing, schools etc.. but since it's only for people who ALREADY are here... HAVE been here for many years... The change in housing and school crowding shouldn't be the biggest issue... The bigger issue is how will we tame the anger and animosity we've created between two classes of peole that have become one... That is the true issue...
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I AGREE WITH YOU!!!!!Let's face it, American citizens are intimidated, they claim that immigrants are taking jobs. Why is that? oh I know why because the immigrant can do a better job and are still payed a low wage!!!I agree they are kicking our asses GOOD!! and I support them 100%, you gotta give them props!!, and I don't know why people b*tch that they are breaking the law. I bet more than half the people that complain about immigrants have broken the law once or twice themselves. Sh*t even me I was charged for battery that's a violent crime and I'm a citizen, and the immigrant only came here with out no papers. So people stop your b*tching their are worse crime someone can commit for example the war started in Iraq.
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I am bothered that people want something for nothing. if you want to be a citizen, then I am supportive of this. \n\nTake the legal route.  do not come to a country illegally and then expect to just be given anything. You have to follow the proper legal channels to become a citizen and then your good.\n\nIf you are paying your taxes on all of your income (including what you getpaid in cash) then wonderful.  if you are not...then your cost of living here is being taken out of my paycheck.\n\nIf you are working with the government to gain rights to stay in this country, then wonderful and I support you.  If you are wanting ti live here, and never become legal...then this is not ok.
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hmmm.....don't see many of the regulars answering this question/statement do you.\n\nanother aspect of this immigration topic we have yet to pick the scab off.\n\nI love it.\n\nOh but I have to add....they are all going to post quickly with "illegal".....though that had nothing to do with the question.....that is going to be your basic answer.\n\nLMAO\n\ngood post!
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Guys...the way this is being described (even in this forum) reminds me of Nazi Germany. Language like "round 'em up". We have to find a safe way for people to extend their visas, get visas and travel between the border if they want to. As someone mentioned, border jumping is scary. And it is not like these are bad or immoral people. They just want to work--build a life for themselves and their familiy at any cost. That is very American if you ask me. Very nobel. Lets do this the right way. If an employer hires an illegal worker we need to really hit them hard. People wouldn't come and stay if they couldn't support themselves. Lets target the places of employment.
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The border policy is bull. And honestly, it's in the news and all, but the people I talk to in Southern California.. we don't care! It's just the media hype making it out to be a bigger deal than it is (I hope). To get a little stereotypical, what would we possibly do without Mexicans?? Honestly, who would cook, clean, cut grass, wash the dishes, and do all the other jobs that nobody else wants?? And they are not stealing our jobs, because nobody wants them! And if a Mexican is smart enough to compete with us for jobs (not saying they aren't, many many are!) then that is great! Who are we to decide who gets what? Honestly, the crimes that some of them commit aren't enough to deport an entire group of people. And finally, for the kicker.. WE ALL ENTERED THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY! I hate that argument, but honestly, it is true.
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Your right we mexicans are very united and we believe in family. We will work as hard as possible to abe able to give our families a better life. I see it every day when American decide to kick out there 18 year old or I also see American divorced parents who either mom or dad do not want to help support there own children. I see more homeless white folks then anything else. In California I do not see a mexican begging for money why because me have to much pride for that. Our saying is We will rather die on our feet then live our lives on our knees. Please give respect to the people who are making your economy stronger. As for people who say that the dont pay taxes. Well guess what i work in a tax office and there are ways they do it. The apply for EIN but they are never able to receive disabilty, social secuirty or unemployment. They don't complain. If we do send illegals back then you american will be paying $75.00 for a bag of tomatoes.
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I agree. \nTo thebeautiful...Almost all of us had ancestors who were from other countries, and yes, most of them were illegal. That was then, this is now. We now have FEDERAL LAWS regarding illegal entry, it's a FELONY.Illegally crossing the border is a FEDERAL offense, a felony. - The issue is ILLEGAL immigrants, not LEGAL immigrants -They are hired by businesses in our country, the businesses should be prosecuted for hiring illegals \n-They pay lower wages to the illegal immigrants than they once paid the American worker, thus American worker wages fall -Americans would do the jobs at the fair wage the businesses formerly paid them. -There is no job they do that Americans won't do. When they say they work harder than Americans, that is a racist remark. Plus, Americans worked to build and keep this land, we didn't run to another country crying with our hand held out. We have stamina and PRIDE. -Illegal immigrants abuse our govrnment assistance programs that were meant for the citizens of the USA when they fall on hard times, not illegal immigrants\n-They can't afford doctors so they glut the ER of hospitals to seek medical care -Our forefathers built this country. Some were illegal, that was then, this is now. We now have immigration laws that are to be abided by, we didn't then\n-Our country fought the Mexican-American war and WON, then paid $15 million dollars for that land and for the privilege of whooping the Mexicans a$$e$ -The illegal immigrant worker is only a tip of the iceberg of problems to come, brought by the illegals coming across the border. They want "reconquista" (reconquor), they'll tell you that. They want that land we whooped their butts for, they can't accept defeat. -They flew their flags in protest of the USA, the very country that has been putting food on their tables. -They disrespect the people of the USA and our leaders. \nThey should be deported and the sooner the better. Our borders should be tightened up and patrolled with armed guards. America needs to wake up.
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I agree with you.. though I'm Canadian, I would support such a bill here in my country as well.  I think it's disgusting that we, as taxpayers, pay for illegals to be deported back to their countries.  I also feel that, if an illegal commits a crime, they should be returned to their country rather than my tax dollars paying for them to be imprisoned.  I don't care if they're from a country that will chop off their hands for the crime, their penis, or even capitol punishment.  If they can't do the time... they shouldn't do the crime, especially in my country.\nAlthough our immigration laws are not as lax as most US politicians would have American's believe, I still think we need to review our immigration laws in Canada and put a stop to certain types of people that are permitted to come into this country.  I know the states has a similar issue.  As far as this goes, I'm on the same page... and I think USA and Canada should combine their resources to fight illegal immigration across the Canada/USA border and the Mexican/USA border as well as illegals coming in through other methods such as ships and airports.