I served in the years 1969 to 1975 and I am now ashamed to admit it. Look at the United States. We are in a war based on lies. No WMD. The military is dying for nothing in Iraq and we all know Iraq will end up like Vietnam. ( A loser War ) I'm thinking of tearing up my DD Form 214 and send it back to the President and say "You can have this worthless piece of paper".. So anyone else feel ashamed to be an American? ( For those who want to know my AFSC was 81150A )
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I say go ahead and do it.  If you are that ashamed to be an American, leave the country you loser.  My father served during the same time you did, and I am proud he attempted to help the vietnamese.  I served during my time, and I am proud of it.  Any of you liberal, pinko, commie, idiots feel ashamed of being an American, leave for someplace else.  No need for you to suck up my tax dollars with your whining.  Go.  Leave.  Don't bother coming back.  You losers whine all day and all night about how ashamed you are of the USA, but I don't see any of you losers leaving.  Either quit complaining and wasting oxygen or find someplace else.
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I'm angry, but honestly not that surprised. It's about what I would expect from Kerry- not only that he has such little respect for the men and women fighting in Iraq, but that he would use them as the butt of a joke to score points with an audience. \n\nI'm especially outraged because of the foolishness of his "joke." I took several semesters off to serve in Iraq, and graduated with honors when I returned. I've worked hard all my life. And many of the ENLISTED men I served with were more intelligent, better educated, and harder working than I was.\n\nWhat DOES surprise me are the number of liberals, especially liberal "veterans", who seem to want to rationalize of justify Kerry's "joke." Are they really so partisan that they can't rightfully condemn Kerry, just because he is a major figure in the Democratic party?\n\nHow shameful.
631992
Americans are Americans...they always think theyre right and that the world revolves around them...How could you guys talk about bravery and courage when you guys know for a fact that the war is based on a lie.!!!????...and that there wernt any weapons of mass distruction???..Like the girl said saddam wasnt an angel but they sure had better lives with him they went to school they had jobs,,,,and they were much safer...i mean look at them now they cant even step a foot outside with ...out fearing death...and i did live in the US and i know what kind of people join the army??...only loosers who cant succeed in anything join it...but we all know what america and bush want...they .barge in iraq...claiming there going to bring back peace and freedom (my A$$) while they are realliy just enjoying killing, raping, and destorying places..and lets not forget about the free oil....I mean what is wrong with you guys,,,did you guys forget about haditha and abu ghareeb???????????????????? and why do you keep saying that muslims keep blowing thwmselves up..as if it is wrong..,.,,,they only do that because thats there only way to defend and fight back,.,..what do you guys expect them to do...sit and what while people are murdered??/? i mean compared to the multi million dollar weapons you guys have a guy blowing himself up isnt that big of a deal.... that really show how brave they are and willing to fight for there country...let me see one of you wimps just jump out of that big armoured trucks for a minute???(as if you can))....i really wish and pray that you guys go back home with your heads down,,,,!!!
513530
You are just learning that you have been deceived by propaganda. The US is, and never was, the land of the free.\n\nNow you need to get past the government propaganda about Iraq and you should be OK
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I served for 20 years and retired in '92.  One of the things we noticed during the run-up to Desert Storm was the number of people all over Europe, I was assigned to CINCUSNAVEUR support in London, who were screaming "Wait! We didn't know we might have to go to WAR!"  That was from people with 8 or 10 years in.  All we career types could say was "You're in the military, what did you think we were here for?"  If there is a good thing about the Iraqi conflict, which I opposed from the start, it is that our young service men and women have a clear understanding of for what they are signing up.  The young people who put their lives on the line for the rest of us are truly the best of our best.  I just wish our National Leadership valued them as they deserve.
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war?  were not at war  were liberators and our soldiers are bring peice ...peices of body's ...can't imagine why it aint working i was telling a coworker how much i wanted to help her as i hit her i'n the face .....this was a lame attemt at humor ....it is tragic what happened i really did believe there were chemical weapons i remember buying tape and plastic to save my self .....about as effective as duck and cover under your desk for atomic bombs....there will be no america at the rate were going....fewma, katrina , 911, no moral copass ,,, did you know that different sects of buhdist monks (they meditate 5 hours at a time thats concentration,)they have been known to see into future , ...they see nothing past 2012!!!.... heard same about nostradomus.....we by know means have this world figureed out ....in the words of dr. phil "HOWS THAT WORKING FOR YOU"?
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I served in Afghanistan and received quite a bit of hate mail from back home. I was injured while on patrol and upon returning home had garbage and other things thrown at me as I entered the base for my discharge. Iraq is far more controversial so I am glad that I do not have to bear coming home from Iraq and receive even worse criticism. Joining the Army was my CHOICE!. You people may not like wars but you are not fighting in it so I don't know what gives anti war protesters the right to spit on me when I am only serving my country and my countrymen, including them. We are told not to argue, but I wish they would put their time to better use than standing outside all day and ridiculing the soldiers. Fortunately others and I are far too proud to take too much offense.
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Ashamed - no.\nHorribly disappointed - yes.\n\nThere are policies this president has supported that I don't understand and really worry about.\n\nYes there is the war in Iraq and there are terrorist threats that I don't feel are being dealt with.  \n\nHowever, I'm honestly very concerned about some of the stuff going on a little closer to home.  \n\nWhy is the president spending so much time and money trying to define what a marriage is?  (Please don't give me the God said it's bad for a man and a man to hook up and it's bad for a woman and a woman to hook up, I'm looking at it as a tax payer, and I'm sick of the government spending money telling me that I can only marry a man legally.)\n\nWhy did the federal government screw up so badly in response to Katrina?  (We had to know that a hurricane was coming and we didn't prepare for it or what?)\n\nWhy does our president think that a teacher in this country is leaving any child behind?  (No child left behind is a great idea, but it's completely useless.  It is a completely under funded idea that the government decided would be a nice catch phrase to get voters to agree with, but if you actually know how it works, you would cry for the teachers and students.)\n\nWhy are we spending around 520 billion on the department of defense versus spending about 60 billion on the department of education?  (I'm not arguing that I want to feel safe in the country that I was born in, but why are we spending almost 9 times the amount of money on education on defense.  Maybe it's just me but I think the kids in our schools across the country deserve more than what they are getting.)\n\nYou may disagree with what I have to say, and that's fine with me.  I support what our country stands for, but I have some serious concerns about how our fearless leader is currently directing our country.\n\nHave a great day from the Land Of Lincoln.  :)
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First of all how in the world did you forget the dates?  I can remember the day I swore into Delayed Enlistment, the day I went to MEPS, the day I finally left out, etc... I don't buy this story, what happened to your DD-214?  Did you know what that was?
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I hear your comment, but not even the 3000 thousand that died in the towers equals the deaths from the American military. No death is valid as far as I am concerned. I really believe that America doesn't have the real story. An attack is a valid reason to sign a "Declaration of War," but the Bush Administration doesn't have one. I am concerned about this, as to it doesn't make any sense. Going into Iraq was unwarranted, and once again no "Declaration of War" was signed. This makes America appear to be just as much of a terrorist nation as the attackers. It's not proper etiquette to our Democracy and policies. The Republicans don't believe in Democracy, it is a Republic type of Government that America is being ruled by at the present. I don't agree with these types of policies and the rest of the World is also appalled by the Bush Administrations actions. All of this could lead to a larger Global War I am afraid. I say voting the Republicans out of office in November is Americas only choice at this point. I don't want to die for a small group of red-necks that stir up problems, and wont play a part in the military. My personal feelings that's all.
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.      I can not believe some spme people. I hear a lot of stupidity coming out of a lot of Americans mouths concerning the war with Iraq."We're there for oil." what? Cumon ppl listen to ya selves please. What happen to Nationalism? Standing behind our country. That just sickens me to hear that kind of uneducated comments coming out of my fellow Americans mouths. \nAnybody care to correct/comment? Contact me; I'm open for aguement/disscusion.\n.      First of all, we get most of our oil supplies from Nigeria, and even if that was the reason we're there, we Americans should have nothing to whine and cry about because it would only be to assure our benefits. We're in the 21st century for God's sake. This is not the time to just go to war because one country refuses to sell its products. Man! \n.     I support the war with Iraq a 100%. We cant always be reactive, people. We have to act first to stop these idiots from even thinking about messing with us. We cant wait for another 9/11 to go to war. We have to be proactive and teach'em that they should know better than messing with the supper power.       \n.    Even tho this war has dramatically driven our economy downward, its gonna help assure our security in the long run. War is what gave us the image that we have right now. After the bomming of Hiroshima and Nagasaki every other country knew better than messing with us. \n.     Forger the rest, liberating those poor, innocent citizens from dictatorship alone is a legit reason from the USA to go to war with any country!
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Well I spent 8 active with 2 tours and29 months in Korea and a year (1966-1967) in Vietnam and I know how you feel.\n\nMost of the ones you talk about are conservative, who's view were molded by the service. I remember when I thought the president could do no wrong! LBJ and Nixon. Robert McNamara and Gen Westmoreland. What a F___g crock they were!\n\nThey way I look at it is the shrills on here never served a day in the service, never saw combat, never ate c-rations for months. Don't suffer from PTSD or are dying from agent Orange.\n\nWe earned our right and as far as I am concerned we gave them theirs. Without us they wouldn't have a country to fight over, and sometimes I winder whether it was even worth it! From the day we got home we were treated like shi~! and it continues. They have no respect or self respect. They weren't worth the people on that black wall or the rest of us!\n\nThey don't vote, they don't serve, they don't say a damn thing while their freedoms are taken from them, or from others. All they do is blame it on the press and liberals.\n\nCan't be a Traitor, especially after what Bush has gotten away with being one, I can't believe people in the service or who were out would vote for a draft dodger.\n\nYou ignore those people. They hate everyone anyway. They don't talk issues, the spew venom. I wish I could take a few of them out to a hot LZ and leave them there!.\n\nIraq is wrong, Bush lied, we didn't go after the terrorism circumvented National law and are to this day. We went to war over greed and oil!\n\nBush's LATEST Lies!!! There are NO SECRET CAMPS and WE DON"T TORTURE!  Anyone believe him?? I can't believe one is in Poland!
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I have to say other than pay my taxes I have done NOTHING to support the current war effort in Iraq, but have supported it in Afghanistan.  I have friends serving in both locations and I remind them as often as we can email that regardless of how people feel about the wars I will NOT let them return to the "welcome" our vietnam veterans got.  I also discuss (that's right discuss) my views with others who share them and don't share them. I have learned a lot and they have too.\n\n(Remember, supporting our troops who are doing their job is NOT the same as supporting the wars.)
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Normally you anger me beyond words.  I can't even express  how much.  Today I am just going to give you a calm honest reply to your question.  I really don't feel any shame over anything you listed in your question.  It didn't phase me a bit.  In fact I don' t feel shame for a single thing except one.  I am ashamed that people from all over the world read the vile crap you write about my country and the troops fighting for it.  I'm ashamed that you make your comments in agreement with our enemies and to their delight knowing that you are an american citizen. Most of all I am ashamed knowing that there are brave men fighting this war who read what you write in this forum and I can't tell every one of them that I am so sorry.  Yes that's what I'm most ashamed of...that you are an American.
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I am in the Marine corps and I am his supporter.  You cry baby libral hippies dont know jack.  Iraq is 200% better now and we have bush to thank for that.  he has his down falls but so does everyone, INCLUDING YOU.  stop being a cry baby and do something about it if you think something is wrong.  what do you do?  work your dead end job and get on here and cry?  get a life loser
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do not over generalize....many "Americans" do not want this war. It is Bush and his minions that are doing this. Take a look at his approval ratings. I am American...I hate my government. I hate that we are in Iraq. I do feel like Bush made a huge mistake.
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I've never actually heard, or read about, any Americans claiming they've never lost a war. However, if 'Vietnam, Korea, etc. were "police actions"' as someone here claims, what the heck DO they call a 'war'?? At least they can't pretend Iraq wasn't a 'war' - it was called one repeatedly, although I'm still not prepared to accept that "America" (or her allies) won, it looked to me more like a successful invasion which has caused civil unrest!! Not quite the same thing as a 'war'!\n\nAnd why does America (or her government) think it's acceptable to compensate all those 'nice' soldiers for the damage caused to them by Agent Orange - but that it's okay NOT to compensate the Vietnamese, who are still suffering to this day, and who were mass-murdered by a bunch of Americans?!???? America DELIBERATELY poisoned Vietnam! Those were civilians!! Even if America DID have the right to poison the land (which it DIDN'T!!!) they should STILL give HUGE amounts of compensation to the Vietnamese who are SUFFERING!!