...to further their own screwed up agenda?  I think that few bad apples on both sides are trying to pull reasonable people on both sides into conflict on the basis of lies.  Among the whites I think these are racists and xenophobes, and among the hispanics I think these are racists and socialists.\n\nALSO, I believe that radical whites are pretending to be racist hispanics to inflame and polarize the issue, and the same is true for radical hispanics.  There is some serious misinformation going on and it's manipulating all of us into behaving contrary to our own beliefs out of fear.\n\nWe've got to shut these extremists down and deal with the issue in a constructive, non-combative, PEACEFUL way.  Otherwise this issue is going to get out of hand.
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No - American Citizens Can SEE Through The LIE That They Are Trying To Hand Us -\nThat Means That We Are NOT As Dumb As They Thought\nTheyre Gonna Have To Come Up With Another Plan, Because Theyre ALL About To Get Deported\n************************\n***In Response To Panchas Answer\n\nThere are 12 million illegal immigrants in this country RIGHT NOW.(WRONG - THERE ARE 20 Million Or More - And They Arrive At A Rate Of 8 Thousand More EACH DAY From MEXICO)\n\nIf they all became LEGAL right now that means:\nThey for sure would be paying taxes.(imagine how much 12 million ppl would contrbute)(HA-HA THEY DONT PAY EM NOW,YOU THINK THEYRE GONNA START IF WE JUST SLAP EM ON THE WRIST??? - AND WHOS GONNA PAY ME BACK FOR ALL THE TAXES I PAID INTO THE SYSTEM ALREADY??? - ID RATHER CUT MY LOSSES AND CHASE)\n\nThey would have to be paid decent wages(thus not lowering wages).(THE WAGES HAVE ALREADY BEEN LOWERED - WHEN WE DEPORT, THE WAGES WILL INCREASE)\n\nThey would no longer be ILLEGAL.(tired of hearing that one,how are ppl illegal).(YEAH BUT 20 MILLION MORE ILLEGALS WILL SHOW UP)\n\nThey would be documented,with health screens,finger prints,background checks.(YEAH AND I SUPPOSE YOU IMAGINE THEYRE ALL GONNA SHOW UP FOR THAT)\n\nThey could no longer be exploited.(THEY EXPLOITED THEMSELVES - DONT BLAME THAT ON US)\n\nI know I am forgetting some things,but I think this is the only solution(here come the insults).(YOURE FORGETTING TOO MUCH TO LIST HERE - BUT ILL LIST 3\nTHEY BROKE OUR LAWS - THEY MUST BE PENALIZED\nMANY OF THEM HAVE STOLEN/FORGED DOCUMENTS - THEY MUST BE PENALIZED\nTHEYRE TAKING JOBS THAT AMERICANS DO WANT)\n\nI don't agree with breaking apart families,or sending ppl away that have been productive members if this society for decades.(I DONT AGREE WITH THAT EITHER - THEYRE "FAMILIES" LIVE IN MEXICO - OR HOW CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE $$$39 BILLION LEAVING OUR ECONOMY INTO MEXICO EVERY YEAR??? - WE SHOULD RE-UNITE THEM WITH THEIR FAMILIES IN MEXICO IMMEDIATELY VIA DEPORTATION)\n\n"Illegal" immigration has been going on for a long time and only now it is a country wide issue.(YES IT HAS BEEN - IS - ENOUGH IS ENOUGH - ITS GONNA END NOW)\n\nAnd I don't think all those ppl should be deported because some ppl want to label them as "illegal" or because they are stigmatized.(I DO - AND SO DO 90 PERCENT OF THE OTHER TAXPAYERS IN THIS NATION)\n\nAnd I also think the border should be better looked after.\n(FINALLY - SOMETHING WE CAN AGREE ON)
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There are probably facts for the other side, for immigrants, but I can't tell you about those because I am against them. As you know, there are always at least two sides to an issue. Good job for listening to both sides. A lot of people just hard-headedly choose one without hearing the other out. I picked my side on beliefs and try to be somewhat polite when in debates, but it can be hard :)
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if they are degrading Whites because of their race then I don't think you can call them Anti-racist, nor preachers of tolerance.\n\nand maybe you shouldn't call them multiculturalism either
320393
some people have this problem with scapegoating whole ethnic groups to make up for their own incompetance.\n\nIt's really sad.
337846
I'll take a shot at it, if you don't mind Ma'am! They are looking for anything to gain sympathy and portray themselves as victims. They are extremely cunning, as their real intent is to take over by sheer population. Putting up a wall will stop them from doing this. They also feel that this is their land, much as the Palestinians feel that Israel is rightfully theirs. Their propaganda machines are in overdrive right now, as this is a make or break time for them. The Mexicans really hate us, and I think it is them that we should be wary of. Americans have seemed reasonable in their attitudes and responses to these people, but it is them - they are full of hatred and rage. To me, someone with that much hatred is a much stronger candidate to participate in an extermination or genocide.
247739
I hope the movement catches on. A person's heritage should not be allowed to be hijacked by others of the same ethnicity solely  for their own agenda. It gives anti illegal 'Hispanics' a louder voice in the matter.
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I think the race card is an overused piece of rhetoric, the people that use it have one purpose in mind, to incite anger and resentment. \n\nThe blunt and bitter truth of the matter is, for all their superiority attitude, Mexico's got MILES to go before they're really quite qualified in telling other countries how to live. Look at the big picture, it's not mexican companies setting up shop in america to provide jobs for americans(it's japanese companies, but that's another story).\n\nAmerica's a good country, and if you look at all our policies, we're BEYOND generous, in some cases just GIVING it away. We've done that for so long now, we're trillions in debt. Someday, other people in other countries will finally decide to pull their fucking socks up, and start making an honest effort to solve their own fucking problems. THAT day can't come soon enough, as far as I'm concerned. And, Mexico is at the top of THAT list, in my opinion...
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No I think both extremes are pretty wacked.  The left really has no agenda - just hatred of everything moderate and to the right.  At least I don't get or understand the far lefts agenda.  The radical right agenda would border on racist and is full of hate as well - I guess "hate" is the similarity of the two.
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I think people see them as a supremicist group. And supremicist groups are no good. "Por La Raza todo, Fuera de La Raza nada" Everything for the Mexican Race, Nothing for outside the Mexican Race. It is saying that they believe that if you are not Mexican than you are not deserving. I disagree with that. I am white and my husband Mexican (from Mexico) and there is never a way that I could agree with that, and neither would he. Cant we all just get along?
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Yes, there maybe some issues here but alot of what you have said is true.  Why there is not an an admission of this is unknown to me....I think that in this era people are uncertain of thinking this way since the desegragation and the ongoing violence that race still provokes(Rodney King for ex.).  People that remember this violent time in our county (1960's) do not want it to be repeated and those that have mearly learned about it have been conditioned to ignore the white issues surrounding blacks because it has become "politically incorrect".  There is a seemingly new race "war" brewing...Black's vs. Mexicans.  Now that is ALL our great nation needs..............
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I think things have become much more tense since the Immigration March a month ago.  The immigrants see the move to deport illegals as insulting--rightly or wrongly--and the whites are resentful of the demands made on them.  Things will get worse.  But the short answer is that they don't want to go back because they know life will be worse for them if they do.
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I know I have spoken out against illegal aliens in response to other questions, and I'm ashamed to admit I never thought about how it would affect the Hispanic folks who have every legal right to be here, same as my ancestors.  I apologize for that.\n\nPersonally, I think we're in a situation similar to that of pre-Nazi Germany.  We have our own Brown Shirts (Homeland Security) and people spying on each other (truck drivers, delivery people and taxi drivers have been asked to keep their eyes open for suspicious activity) and I think we're in for a very bad time in this country.  I think we will all be required to carry papers before too long.  There will no longer be freedom of movement, etc.  God help us all!
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What do you do when you want something from someone you can't beat up?  You kiss their as_s, right?\n\nWhat do you do when you want something from someone you can beat up?  You beat them up.  \n\nSo, they think they can intimidate us into giving them what they want.  Well, they're SORELY mistaken.  I'm fairly liberal, and I might have been cool about this, but they made a serious mistake when they started DEMANDING these things.\n\nAnd the lack of assimilation is ridiculous.  They're chanting things in Spanish that the citizens, those who vote for the freaking representatives and senators, can't understand.  This is extremely disrespectful.  They've won themselves over, but they've turned the rest of us away.
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i am white and i am proud...f what they think...they say worse about us all the time...they are more racist than we are...how many times have you seen a bunch of white kids jump on 1 black kid? (none unless your 84)\nbut how many times have you seen blacks/mexicans jump one white kid? (to many to count)
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I think it is a matter of perception and general upbringing; reading the answers given here, it seems everything is in the eyes of the beholder...it goes from the moderate mainstream view to radical hysteria based on their true life experience.  I think it's funny how in the southwest, the local yahoos (don't mean the users here) sound like the most unsophisticated members of society, and they are the critics of "Pepito, learn English." These are the role models for the cyber kids and some adults who answer here, especially in this category.  What else can be expected except that they parrot the views of their authority figures.  It's a mentality being handed down for generations.  It would be like saying all white anglo saxon Americans are born with higher intelligence.  And now it's being ruined by the illegal immigration.  \n\nI don't discount the obvious crime by the hardcore Mara Salva Trucha gangs from El Salvador and the gangs of LA; but, they are the exception, not the rule.  The White Racist Supremist hate groups are the exception, not the rule.  I also do not discount that people  having come here illegally are breaking the law.  I place that blame on our White House Administration.  They care two sh*ts less and are the enablers of this crisis.  If real estate has always been the thermometer of our economy, just think,  the illegals are cheap labor.  Their contribution helps to boost our economy so we can have a flourishing economy.   It's quite the paradox of our government officials.\n\nHaving grown up in Texas, my experience is similar to yours.  The cyber immigration group pulls out the social services and tax card;  while it is a reality that our system is on overload, I think they are saying two things:  don't take it away from me, I live in the land of opportunity, but I don't want to do anything for myself; I am lazy, and my American passport entitles me to benefit from social services,  I want some and you are taking it away from me; or they like the way it sounds, since most of the kids answering probably don't have a job and are not really paying taxes.  \n\nI have a builder brother in Central Texas building million dollar homes who would never tell you it's a bad place to live because of illegals.  He likes their work ethic, and he obviously hires white Americans as well.  \n\nThe bottom line is prejudice is as prejudice does.  I see a lot of businesses owned by these so called immigrants; they come here and add to the tax base and contribute to employment;  so, I ask any gringo who opposes to that:  what's your story?  Quit your whining, leave the Mexican restaurant  and do something for yourself!\n\nAnd that's my pulpit for the day!
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I understand what you mean...\n\nAt first glance it appears as if they were trying to be politically correct. I personally would appreciate that openness of mind.\n\nHowever, we can only guess their intentions. We don't know these people, and if they are really open minded or were just being plain unpleasant. \n\nIs this openness of mind unlike them?
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DC, you are a lying POS.  La Raza is closely linked to MeCHA, both of which are extremely racist groups.  Their only agenda is La Reconquista for the land they believe belongs to me.  They really think that the Southwest was stolen and needs to be taken back.  \n\nAt least if you are going to support it, have the balls to own up to what the organization truly is.  Poverty my culo!!!