Perhaps this is the wrong forum for rational discussions on the issue.  Some have tried to call me racist on this board, not quite sure why.  I honestly do not care how you characterize yourself, nor what color you are. I am only interested in understanding different viewpoints.\n\nIn the past I was a Manager of more than 200 employees, and had employees of varying backgrounds.  And of course the race card would come up when it was convenient. But every time employees of similar backgrounds, not just race, would come to my defense as they saw the person was just making excuses.  One employee would leave for 4 hours while working and got mad when she was called on it, so then it was about race not her performance.  So dont go talking about the race card with me unless you have something to back it up, bcs i do not like excuses, nor the crutch of entitlement.
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Don't let it bother you.  It's a last ditch effort to justify ILLEGAL actions.  The race card no longer holds any meaning here.
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Personally, I try very hard not to pre-judge someone on their appearance. There are times, though when their actions immediately makes me think " I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire." As far as being more, or less acceptable. I can't say. I've encountered reverse discrimination alot, because most of my friends are of another race.
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Saying someone is racist is a quick way to get out of a debate if you are losing. just like that english national language bill passed recently. Many people called it "racist" because they were against it. It only damages their own side and makes them lose credibility. I liked when one senator asked "what color is english?"\n\nNow if someone is losing a debate on illegals (can't find positives for illegal immigration) they will say "Well you're just racist!" or "you're a redneck!". They just resort to name calling'\n\n"Because your racist." -- Pancha\n\nsee pancha is probably the worst one on here, all of her posts say what I just pointed out. She either says "you're racist" or "you're a redneck". Even though I live in new england.\n\n\n"primarily because "whites" were the last to have slaves in our country and that wound is still fresh albeit it happened 40 to 50 years ago."\n\nWhat?? Slavery ended in the early 1800s. Hundreds of thousands of white people died in the civil war over it.\n\nAnd your comment about racism still existing. yes it does and we must not put any laws against it. Whether it be black on white or white on black. We can't become anti-freedom of speech.\n\n"Take a trip outside of your safe borders and get a whole new perspective of the WORLD. Then you will begin to see........ if you'r not in denial or a coward."\n\nYeah we are not talking about third world countries, we are discussing people selfishly using the race card in the USA to win arguements.\n\n"IF YOU WERE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE I'M VERY SURE YOU WOULD NOT BE COMPLAINING ABOUT PULLING "THE RACE CARD.""\n\nUhh yeah because the klan is still running around lynching people and blacks and minorities aer still being oppressed by the gov. Wake up in the 21st century, its over. No one is being discriminated. May be someone will make fun of you for who you are in life, but how is that severe? Happens to everyone.\n\nAnd the people using teh race card are usually white liberals who are losing the debate on illegal immigration.
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I responded to your first question. I couldn't find the question in the family section. It is perfectly fine to disagree with this Carol chick, but you can present your opinon in a more civil &less personal way Your comments were not only rude to her they were disrespectful to white women in general. You can disagree with Carol without attacking the entire caucasian race. We are all trying to put Racism in the past but it is opinions like those that help keep it alive in the first place. You would be just as offended if someone had made those comment about a black person. Respect works both ways, and if you want to be respected you have to show respect. Respect is something you earn not something you are owed. You owe all of us an apology.
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I'm white and I've actually been told that I couldn't have any problems by more than one race. The only thing I can say, is that good and bad comes in all of God's colors as well as narrow minds. God gave us choice and sometimes people chose to believe what is easist to belive in order to release themselves of all responsibilty to a current situation or life situation. The other thing is that you are actually perpetuating the cycle by making a blanket statement. I do not have to be black to know in my heart, that not all black people think this way even though I did experenced exactly what you're talking about.
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I don't know. I think we all do that to some extent. Pesonally, I have been known to refer to other blacks as ni**ers when they act stereotypical. Whether we'd all like admit it or not, we do it. But, just like you, I am an equal oppurtunity hater. I hate anyone who does something to p*ss me off, or something uncalled for or idiotic. Their race/ ethnicity/ gender really has nothing to do with it whatsoever. Buit no, I don't think you ar a racist.
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These idiots answering think that you are racist?   it find it quote refreshing to see anyone of any color setting their boundaries - and not letting others do it for them....\n\nI am black and these people do not know where the line of racism is drawn.   Civil rights were based on equal opportunity - not the right to use "bigotry" or "racism" as a tool to force people to make personal choices in marriage, dating, etc.  That is overstepping the boundaries of the idea of stopping racism.\n\nI find this deplorable, the answers "conditioned" and those who use answers like this regardless of color not having the ability to think freely. \n\nI am black and I feel the same way.   I have and always stay with my race.   I am married to a beautiful woman and have three small girls.  (All BLACK) if they were to come home and bring any other race, I will go through the roof.  There are enough black men out there and they can choose from them.
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racism.. is same way .. they are all not equal opportunity employers or people in this world. People who defend themselves uppity like its because they go thru hell.. not all do tho.. so you can't categorize all of people .. Some contribute some don't. We are all unique individuals on earth some realize this some don't that's just the way it is ..
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Hi. I'm Rommie's friend. (she answered above) Yeah, although I'm very universal in accepting people of all races, I also have no choice, but to accept the negativity of my race against other people's races and vice versa. It's not my job to correct anyone, and it would be a waste of time, even if I wanted to. These sad individuals have chosen to live a life of hate towards other races and groups, and their's nothing you or I can say or do about it. They have already made up their minds.
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this crap is not ALWAYS applied when blacks don't get their way.  it is a small population of people who have grown accustomed to using slavery and all the "oppression" as a means of getting special treatment instead being a hard working law abiding citizen. as a young black woman, I don't feel like i deserve to keep my gas on if i didnt pay the bill, or get out of a ticket because the cop might have only pulled me because i am black. i was probably speeding, so that's why he pulled me.  so, the woman who decided that the ONLY reason your husband is trying to run his business professionally without being bullied by that BS is because someone somewhere let her get away with that ish and she is trying to milk it for all it is worth.  my advice to her is "pay your damn bills and stop thinking that history is going to get you special treatment", and my advice to you and your husband is "please don't stereotype an entire race because a select few of us are waiting for their 40 acres and mule".  have a great thanksgiving!!!
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Oh, thank you. I'm so glad this ticks other people off, too. I'd like to smack the next person I hear use the term "reverse racism". Racism is racism regardless of the color of the person experiencing discrimination. And I believe that white people are really getting the short end of the stick. \n\n(I don't appriciate the term Caucasian - it means white people from the Meditterranian - with dark hair and eyes, an olive complection and oval eyes - but whites are all grouped together, and since "black" isn't PC, then they don't want to say "white", and you can't say European, because not all whites are from Europe.)\n\nWhen I went to college, I had a 3.8 GPA, I was in clubs and activities (even founded my school's debate club), I volunteered in community service, and had been a foreign exchange student. My mother was a widow with two younger children still in the home, and an income under $20,000 a year. And I wasn't eligable for anything. A few thousand dollars for educational grants, a dozen $50-$500 scholarships that I had spent a whole year applying for with every group I could find. (I worked in the Financial Aid office, I had govt. loans - bbut we're taking scholarships and grants now.) It was a drop in the bucket of a $17,000/year tuition. \n\nI think it comes from the racist belief that all white people are rich. \n\nEver since I started taking the PSATs in 9th grade, there have been boxes to check off. If you're even 1/8 Black, Hispanic, Native American or anything else they'll send you forms to get scholarships. There are "black" collages, latino fraternities, scholarships based on races other than white.\n\nThen you get older and you start checking "decline" on job application race questions, because companies that have government regulations imposed on them will hire a slightly inferior "minority" before a fully qualified white.\n\nThen it goes higher up. The state of Illinois just got pressured into awarding billions of dollars to just a handful of communities because their elected representatives bound together on race lines. The long-debated budget was up for a final vote, when the hispanic representatives stood up and announced that, unless the money was given to those couple of neighborhoods (who's officials were hispanic), then ALL of the hispanic representitives would withhold their votes, and the budget (which didn't include those billions of dollars) wouldn't pass.\n\nWhites could never do that. We'd be torn to threads. The public wouldn't stand for any of it. The politicians would be ousted. Just like a college claiming to be "white" would be forced to admit minorities, as would white fraternities. And could you imagine a white pride day? Or a European Day parade?\n\nBut if this racism continues, and I ever become rich, I plan to start the United White College Fund. Look for us in 20 years and make a donation.
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Despite the best efforts of the civil rights administration you are still going to run into idiots like Dan! and uck_me_say. There is little you can do without proof. I know what you mean as I was once a computer analyst. I wrote an entire ATM system for a bank back in the 80's and was solely responsible for the successful implementation of the system. With these credentials and more = including published articles on my field in leading industry magazines I didn't get hired for this one bank. From the guys energy I knew he was not about to hire any person of color. \n\nI just hung in there and I got hired at some place else. Later that same moron regretted he didn't hire me when the bank that did hire acquired his bank and I became his boss. \n\nLook at it this way. God is going to take care of you and God is bigger than bigotry. Look for your opportunities as coming from God. The door is open in front of you if you just keep knocking. It is tough for people of all colors right now.\n\nPay no attention to the venom in the other answers. Hatred is its own condemnation.
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Good point. Some people would contradict themselves with this.  I personally think that being with someone outside of your race is wonderful. However, if someone chooses to be with someone of their own race, it is their personal choice, and does not make them racist right off. If they want someone the same race for morals and that they share similar beliefs, I would not consider them racist. But if they want someone the same race solely because of their color, etc, that is a bit racist.
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I don't get them often but when I do they are big time hate mail.Ive had my life and my dogs life threatened on here.It doesn't bother me.The race card is the only one they can play and it just doesn't work on me.Those that know me on here ,know I am not a racists ,I never make crud,racial remarks.I do support my stand against with facts and links to back up what I say.I don't like the name calling.It takes any validity from your question,and turns it into only an insult.Just shake it off ,don't let their hate mail get to you.You know how you are inside and that's all that matters.Just ignore them,that's the best thing.We all get them.:)  Both sides do.
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why do you think Black,Pakistani,Asian,Chinese people get discriminated?\n\nI think people get discriminated against because the people doing the discriminating do not know enough about the person or race involved or they have had a bad experience with one or a few people which they project on the entire race.\n\ndo you think that in 4 years England will be 80% ethnic minority n 20% white people?\n\nI think what you mean to say is do you think that in 4 years England will be 80% non white and 20% white.  I don't think the numbers will be that high more like closer to 50% of each.  I think this because just like in the rest of the world people are getting over their prejudices and marrying and having babies with whoever they like.  Mixed babies are non-white.\n\nand why do Pakistani,,Chinese,Asians own more businesses then white people?\n\nI don't think this is true at all.  What I do find is you notice it more than you notice a white store owner.  You don't even give a thought to a white store owner but you notice what your brain thinks is not the "norm"
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I've noticed that here, too.  You don't have to mention anything about any particular race of human beings; just say you are against all illegal immigration in the USA, and you are jumped on and called a racist.  I do know that it is because they cannot reasonably and logically justify the presence of illegal immigrants and so they resort to name calling because of their lack of anything to back up their stance.  Usually, too, I have found that most of those who back illegal immigrants are either in a romantic relationship with an illegal, have close friends who are illegals, have family members who are illegal, sometimes are illegal themselves, or own a business in which they prosper by hiring illegals and benefiting from their slave labour by paying cheap wages without having to pay the employers share of taxes, etc. (thereby cheating legal immigrants and American citizens), or like to also pay cheap by hiring illegals to do their housework, yardwork, childcare, etc. (again, benefiting personally from illegals).
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Good question, I noticed you said "some" white folks, thanks for specifing that. Not all us white people are a$$holes. I am sorry one of my "white" counterparts has done this to you or someone you know. It may stem from the INDIVIDUALS insecureness. However, I have been outcasted because I am white, and I haven't done anything wrong to anyone. Hell, I am married to someone of a different race, so why do black,brown,yellow,orange,red,green and or purple people instantley label all white people as racist slave owning hillbilly trailer trash? Same reason whites do it to other races, all races are racist, try this out, live in a homogenious (one race) country like I do, and then you will know what true racism is.