ok... there are two groups of people on this island.  one is the group of truth-tellers, and the other is obviously the lie-tellers.  one person makes a statement that he is the only lie-teller on this island.  another person makes a statement that he is the only truth-teller on the island.  who is telling the truth?... they could both be lying... they could both be telling the truth... which one is telling which? explain why
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they're both lying.  there are two groups of people, and groups consist of more than one like object.
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Who is crazy enough to say that they are one person?\nShame on them!!!
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well if he is telling the truth then he has just told a lie because he just told the truth, and if he just lied then not everything  that he says is a lie, which means that sometimes he is telling the truth and what he just said is a lie. so the truth is that he does lie!
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Say what? Congratulations for asking the most confusing question of the day! I've read it three times and I still haven't got a clue. Congratulations also to the gentleman above who did understand and gave you that exhaustive response. I hope you understood it and it answered your question (whatever the hell that was!)
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the rabbit is telling the truth \nb/c\nif the cat were telling the truth then alice would also be telling the truth (opposite of alice is lying)\nand if alice were telling the truth then the cat's statement would be true that the rabbit is lying and the rabbit can't be lying and telling the truth. \n\nTherefore must be the rabbit who is telling the truth that alice is lying.
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Ask either brother how the other brother would answer.  That answer is wrong, so take the other road.  \n\nReasoning:  \n\nIf you ask the brother that lies he will lie and tell you he brother will give you the wrong answer.\n\nIf you ask the brother that tells the truth he will tell the truth and give you the answer his brother would give you, the wrong answer.  \n\nEither way you know the road is the wrong one so take the other road.
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This story is from the Tsimshian tribe of the Pacific Northwest, I hope it's useful.......\n                  How Raven Made the Tides\nA long time ago,the old people say,the tide did not come in or go out.\nThe ocean would stay very high up on the shore for a long time & the clams & the seaweed & the other good things to eat would be hidden under the deep water.The people were often hungry.\n"This is not the way it should be,"said Raven.Then he put on his blanket of black feathers & flew along the coast,following the line of the tide.At last he came to the house of a very old woman who was the one who held the tide-line in her hand.As long as she held onto it the tide would stay high.Raven walked into the old woman's house.There she sat,the tide-line held firmly in her hand.Raven sat down across from her.\n"Ah,"he said,"Those clams were good to eat."\n"What clams?"said the old woman.\nBut Raven did not answer her.Instead he patted his stomach & said,"Ah,it was so easy to pick them up that I have eaten as much as I can eat."\n"That can't be so,"said the old woman,trying to look past Raven to see out her door,but Raven blocked the entrance.So she stood up & leaned past him to look out.Then Raven pushed her so that she fell through the door,& as she fell he throw dust into her eyes so that she was blinded.She let go of the tide-line then & the tide rushed out,leaving all kinds of clams & crabs & other good things to eat exposed.\nRaven went out & began to gather clams.He gathered as much as he could carry & ate until he could eat no more.All along the beach others were gathering the good food & thanked Raven for what he had done.Finally he came back to the place where the old woman still was."Raven,"she said,"I know it is you.Heal my eyes so that I can see again."\n"I will heal you,"Raven said,"but only if you promise to let go of the tide-line twice a day.The people cannot wait so long to gather food from the beaches."\n"I will do it,"said the old woman.Then Raven washed out her eyes & so she could see again.So it is that the tide comes in & goes out every day because Raven made the old woman let go of the tide-line.
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ALL RIGHT. ANSWER YES OR NO.\nSARAH:    WOULD HE TELL ME\nSARAH:    THAT THIS DOOR LEADS TO THE CASTLE?\nALPH:     UH...\nALPH:     WHAT DO YOU THINK?\nALPH:     REALLY?\nALPH:     YES.\nSARAH:    THEN THE OTHER DOOR LEADS TO THE CASTLE,\nSARAH:    AND THIS DOOR LEADS TO CERTAIN DEATH.\nALPH:     HE COULD BE TELLING THE TRUTH.\nSARAH:    BUT THEN YOU WOULDN'T BE,\nSARAH:    SO IF YOU SAID HE SAID YES,\nSARAH:    THE ANSWER IS NO.\nALPH:     I COULD BE TELLING THE TRUTH.\nSARAH:    THEN HE'D BE LYING.\nSARAH:    THE ANSWER WOULD STILL BE NO.\nALPH:     IS THAT RIGHT?\nRALPH:    I DON'T KNOW. I'VE NEVER UNDERSTOOD IT.\nSARAH:    NO, IT'S RIGHT. I'VE FIGURED IT OUT\n\nso I don't really understand it but that is from the labyrinth and I guess that is what I would have to say. :-) I love that movie
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I'm entertaining the hell/purgatory theory and the (reletively) simple theory having to do with the magnetic field on the island. I'm leaning towards the scientific theory, that all this crazy stuff happens and people are affcted by and because of the magnetic field.
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Great topic!\n\nI am amazed that there are so many adults who do not consider some of the things they say or do not say, as a lie. For instance: sometimes people make up stories and tell it for fun. It may be a hunting story, fishing story, etc. This is done as a fantasy. The important thing to remember is that if you tell the story...you and the others must identify it is not really true....or it is a lie. Another example of a lie people do not always admit as lying is...when someone states something they think is true and then discover later that it is not true. The person really should then rectify the situation and admit they said something and found out it was not the truth. When a purposeful untruth is told, it is an outright lie. It is meant to deceive. This leads to disappointing others, others never really belive you and they eventually stop trusting you.  Then the time may come and you may be telling the truth...but too late...others don't believe you even when you do tell the truth. Some people actually believe that the only way a lie is told is in that manner. Not true! You can lie with your actions. You may cause a person to believe something not true by acting a certain way. (Example; child breaks a vase and throws it out and pretends not to know anything about it.) A lie can be done by being silent. You may cause someone to believe something by saying nothing. (Example: a mother asks the children who broke a window, and all the children know, but no-one tellls anything).The cycle of lying usually continues when one lies. The next thing one knows is they lie to cover another lie and so on. Most intelligent people, know when someone is lying to them. It doesn't change anything...except the credibility of the one who lies. Another form of lying is not telling a complete truth. Any form of not telling a complete truth or an admission of a complete truth in words or actions is a lie. \nI honestly do not intentionally lie. However, about two weeks ago we had company and this person asked me something and I did not want to go into it so I lied. When the company left. my husband said to me ..."why did you lie?" I reallly had to stop and think about it. I am a woman of value. I work hard to practice what I believe in. I am an honest person. I try hard to use tact and not lie. I usually would reply to someone who asked a personal question that I did not feel like answering with something like...why do you ask? I usually try to find an answer that will not offend the other person, but will also allow me to keep my personal life personal without lying. Sometimes, I like everyone find myself in a place I don't like to be. I feel dirty or shamed when I do that. Long story short...I felt guilty and called the person up and explained it. No one is perfect. There is not a sole alive who has not told a lie at one time or another. I can honestly say I do not lie on a daily basis, but sometimes I do find myself bordering the ethical line. I want people to trust me, I strive to be honest and keep integrity....but it is a daily struggle to be in tune with complete and open honesty!
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I'm a recapper for a reality TV site.  Here is my lowdown on what happened:\n\nWho will be voted off tonight? \nWith 9 remaining Survivors, viewers are confronted by the big question, “Who will be voted off tonight?” Will the small but mighty Aitu continue to defeat the larger but weaker Raro? The game abruptly changed when Jeff pulled out some paintbrushes, a blank tribe flag, and new buffs. He announced that the tribes had merged to form a new tribe. \n\n\n\nAitutonga\nThe new tribe name was chosen… Aitutonga was a mixture of both tribe names. The survivors were taken on a boat to Raro’s island, the island the survivors unanimously decided to call their new home. \n\n\n\nJonathan sounds off\nAs Jonathan continues to question whether he made the right move when he became a mutineer, he again looks down on his Raro tribe mates. \n“These kids are vomiting- they’re eating and drinking so much. I’m here to win a million dollars,” he comments. “They’re psycho.” \n\n\n\nAdam, the player\nAlthough we’ve been treated to nauseating images of Candice and Adam being “lovey- dovey” for weeks, today, Adam was cuddled up to Pavarti, actually trying to slip a hand below the waistband of her pants. “What about Candice?” She asked. Adam’s reply was, “You can both appreciate me.” Can someone pass me a barf bag? \n\n\n\nA bold strategy\nOutnumbered and still the underdog, the former Aitu tribe mates scramble to form a strategy. Yul fesses up to having the immunity necklace, formulating a plan that could carry the former Aitu to the final four. To make his plan work, he has to convince Jonathan to rejoin them in strategizing. \n\n\n\nCan you really trust a traitor? \nAs Yul confesses to Jonathan that he has the immunity idol, Jonathan remains “wishy-washy”. Viewers have no idea if Jonathan will vote with the Aitu tribe or try to maintain his new, shaky alliance with the Raro members. Jonathan knows he’s in a tough place. “I could be the guy who betrays every single person during the game at one time or another,” He moans. \n\n\n\nIndividual immunity\nThe first individual immunity challenge is a basic but difficult one. The survivors are told to climb up a pole with sections of rope on it. They are to hang on to the pole with only little loops of rope to support their weight. The survivor to hang on the longest wins immunity and another night free from a tribal counsel vote. \n\n\n\nHanging tough\nDown… down they go. We watch as the survivors fall from their grip on the pole one by one. Adam was the first to land on the ground. Nate was next. Sundra followed suit. Yul finally fell. Pavarti was next followed by Becky. Candice and Ozzy were still hanging tough. Candice showed off at one point, even doing some knee bends. Ozzy looked deep in concentration. Finally, Ozzy won the battle of strength and wills as Candice landed on the ground. \n\n\n\nBack at camp\nBack at camp, Jonathan brings up the possibility of Yul maybe having the immunity idol to the former Raro tribe members. “He doesn’t have it,” was the adamant response as they all insisted they needed to vote out Yul who they felt was the mastermind behind the tribe. Candice and Adam appeared to be more concerned about making out and groping each other than strategizing about the vote. Yul and the former Aitu crew still try to convince Jonathan to vote with him even offering to vote off whichever Raro tribe member Jonathan wants. Jonathan admits that if he had to choose, he’d get rid of Nate, but he doesn’t know if he can betray his new tribe. \n\n\n\nTribal counsel\nAt tribal counsel, viewers wait to how things turn out. In the end, it’s a close vote between Nate and Yul. Yul prevails as Nate is voted out. \n\n\n\nParting words of love from Nate \nAs the credits roll and the votes are revealed, viewers confirm their assumption that Jonathan voted for Nate. Nate spills his feelings. “Jonathan,” he says to the camera, “you
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Well, if Finkin is a liar, then Blinkin and Winkin must be telling the truth. However, Blinkin said that only Winkin is a liar and Winkin said that everyon is a liar. These two statements do not agree.\n\nSo Finkin must be a liar.\n\nIf Finkin is a liar, then Winkin and Blinkin are NOT both liars. One of them must be telling the truth.\n\nIt is impossible to tell which one, Winkin or Blinkin, is the liar though. But we only need to know how many are liars so:\n\nTwo men are liars and one is telling the truth.
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He asks one of the person, "Which road will the other man tell me leading to X?"\n\nJust take the opposite road.. Simple..\n\nJustification:\nIf the man was truthteller, then the other man would have told the person the wrong way and so the truthteller would also tell him the wrong way..\n\nIf the man was the liar, then the truthteller would have told the right way but the liar would tell the other way round to the traveller, hence the wrong...\n\nSo whatever answer the traveller gets for this question, he goes the opposite way.
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The aftermath of Nate’s departure\nNow that the former Raro tribe members know that Jonathan has betrayed them, they are mad as hell.  Pavarti openly discusses her disappointment and betrayal with Jonathan himself.\n\nGoing once, twice…\nIt’s time for the Survivor food auction, and the Survivors are each given $500 to use to purchase food.  They can not share their food, but they can give each other money.  Some of the dishes were covered so the Survivors would have to bet without knowing what was on the tray.  Others were visable.\n\nJonathan pigs out…\nJonathan wins a mystery platter which turns out to be a hot dog, French fries, and beer.  He accidentally spills some of his beer.  Pavarti spends nearly all of her money on a slice of decadent chocolate cake and a bubble bath.  Yul loans Becky money so that she can spend $620 on something that would “give you power in the game”. \n\nFourth time around\nBecky’s power comes in the form of being allowed to send someone to Exile Island.  When she picks Candice for the fourth time, I almost felt sorry for Candice… almost, but not quite!\n\nFood and confessions\nYul admits to everyone that he has the immunity idol and even shows it to them.  Ozzy spends $420 on some ice cream (a lot of it).  Jonathan ends up with a pepperoni pizza and some mouthwash.  Everyone else leaves hungry because the auction is over.  \n\nObnoxious Jonathan\nBack at camp, Jonathan continues to grate on people’s nerves by being totally obnoxious.  His agitating behavior prompts Yul and the former Aitu members to chance the order of who will be voted off when.  After all, they could vote off Jonathan and still retain a larger number than the former Raro tribe.  Should the vote Jonathan out before Candice?\n\nOff on Exile Island\nCandice cries and whines on Exile Island.  She tells us how much she misses Adam.  I can’t help but remembering how she betrayed her tribe, and I’m sorry, but I couldn’t muster a shred of sympathy for her.\n\nImmunity- up for grabs!\nAt this point in the game, the Survivors realize how valuable the immunity idol is.  They compete in a challenge that is a combination of trivia and math.  For once, the former Aitu tribe members were not in their element.  Three people moved on to the final round of this competition.  Pavarti, Jonathan, and Nate were left standing.\n\nAnd the winner is…\nAs the remaining three Survivors raced through an obstacle course to untie ropes and raise a flag, Adam pushed way ahead.  When he finished the challenge first, he casually and cockily raised his flag before Jeff put the immunity necklace around his neck.\n\nThe plot…\nThe tribe members continue to try to convince the others, especially Yul, to vote off Jonathan next. Yul confesses to Jenny that he thinks maybe he should do it because it would help him gain favor with people when they are on the jury later – he would have a better chance of getting their vote than if they kept Jonathan around.\n\nWhat’s for dinner?\nAs Pavarti, Candice, and Adam cuddle in the tent, Jonathan brings home dinner.  The former Aitu tribe members feast on fish.  Candice wakes up, notices the other tribe members eating, and stalks angrily over. \n “Since when do you guys not share food?”  She accused.  This began the battle between Jonathan and Candice.   \nCandice also went on to say, “All these people said they don’t like you!” about the Aitu members.  The argument was a heated one.\n\nGoodbye kiss\nAt tribal counsel, the vote is anybody’s guess.  Will it be Jonathan or Candice?  Adam wears his immunity necklace, safe from the vote as the decision is made for Candice to leave the island.  She and Adam start kissing goodbye, and the moment is more nauseating than sweet.  \n\nJeff’s wise words\nJeff said it all in his closing words, “A kiss was nice.  Maybe if it was love, he’d have given you the immunity necklace.”
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A college student was in a philosophy class which had a discussion about God's existence. The professor presented the following logic: "Has anyone in this class heard God?" Nobody spoke.\n\n"Has anyone in this class touched God?" Again, nobody spoke.\n\n"Has anyone in this class seen God?"\n\nWhen nobody spoke for the third time, he simply stated, "Then there is no God."\n\nOne student thought for a second, and then asked for permission to reply. Curious to hear this bold student's response, the professor granted it, and the student stood up and asked the following questions of his classmates:\n\n"Has anyone in this class heard our professor's brain?"\n\nSilence.\n\n"Has anyone in this class touched our professor's brain?"\n\nAbsolute silence.\n\n"Has anyone in this class seen our professor's brain?" When nobody in the class dared to speak, the student concluded, "Then, according to our professor's logic, it must be true that our professor has no brain!"\n\n(...The student received an "A" in the class.)
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good on you for telling her off.\nThey are probably continuing more discreetly.\nFace it, they both lied to you until you found them out.
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In answer to the question "Are you red or green?" , everyone will say "I am green", the green natives because it is true, and the red natives because it is not true.  No one will say, "I am red."  So when the second native says, "He says he's green", that is a true statement, and thus the second native is green.  Then it follows that his second statement "He is green and so am I" is also true.  The explorer can be sure that both the natives are green.