don't you people know that some laws are created by brain dead politicians who want to pass laws to increase their power in congress?  so many times i have posed a question on here, only to be deluged with responses containing the phrase, "it's illegal".  i don't give a sh*t if it's illegal or not, if it's not hurting anyone else but me, and i don't get caught doing it, it's not illegal.\n\nhave some balls you p*ssies.
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I agree that many laws are passed by idiots - just b/c it's "illegal" doesn't mean the law that makes it illegal is a just law.  I aruge on the point of infringement, too - if what I do hurts someone else then it should be punishable by law, i.e drinking and driving.  But, if I'm the only person which I'm affecting, the government can get it's stinking hands out of my business, i.e, say if I felt like enjoying "herbal remedies" every now and then. \n\nPeople DO need to come up with a better response than "it's illegal" and actually examine the basis of the law itself, why it's illegal (is someone being hurt?), and go from there!\n\n\n*****\nI think that somebody is missing the point.  There are laws in MA that dictate that it is ILLEGAL to walk through Boston in high heels.  It is ILLEGAL to walk through Boston Common without a FIREARM (to protect you from those dangerous Native Americans).  Think about that for a second...\n\n...Now think about the over-generalized, peon-happy, statement that was made below this.\n\nI'm sure I would have gotten arrested by now if those laws were upheld, but alas they the Blue Laws exist.  And if I broke my ankle on one of the notoriously uneven cobblestone walkways in the city, I'd have to go to the hospital and have it x-rayed, then put in a cast.  That would cost my insurance company (thus increasing their pay-outs, and maybe YOUR healthcare premium?).  That would take up a doctor's time when he/she hadn't planned on my emergency arrival. \n\nSo should I never wear a heel to work or when on a date because I might break my ankle and cause a domino-effect of chaos through out the cosmos?\n\nI think that perhaps someone else needs to think outside of his/her box as well.  No one said that an action has no consequences, but let's be REAONSABLE about it.\n\n\n***\nJust to play the Devil's advocate for a second "ballsonwalls" (heh heh)...seatbelts reduce injuries sustained in accidents GREATLY.  Thereby reducing costs for insurers (freakin' crooks...).  An increase in insurers' costs would most definately be reflected in all our insurance bills, and I'd like to think that a savings b/c more ppl wear seatbelts would also be reflected.  Aside from that, f**k it.\n\nOo and ANOTHER example:  just b/c gay marriage is illegal in most states throughout the union, does that make gay relationships WRONG b/c the GOVERNMENT doesn't recognize them as LAWFUL??  PEOPLE NEED TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES!
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What part of "Illegal" don't you people understand?\n\nIllegal = in violation of our laws.\n\nGiving them amnesty would be like rewarding them for breaking our laws and rewarding them more so for breaking our laws even longer.\n\nSince when does that make sense?\n\nUsing that logic if I was DUI for 5 years, would that make it legal for me to drive under the influence of alcohol from then on? Of course not!\n\nTrust me, I want them here, but I want them to pay taxes and help support our country.\n\nYou have retirees nowadays wondering if they will have their Social Security check at the end of each month and if they do get it if it will be lower than the previous month, then we have a million people marching for illegal immigrants who don't support our government by paying their taxes?! That's crap!!\n\nBefore anyone says anything I am NOT a racist, I have nothing against Hispanics of any kind I just want them to come into our country through the correct corridors.\n\nWhat they should be protesting is their own damn government back in Mexico that makes it so hard for them to make ends-meet instead of complaining about our own government that's pretty much giving them a free ride.
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The evidence in support of putting and end to illegal immigration is overwhelming. Study after study, fact after fact CLEARLY demonstrates this. Illegal aliens have broken federal law, they are in fact criminals. The U.S. Government has made but a token effort to enforce the law and in every other aspect (free food, free medical, free education, public assisted housing) encourages and rewards the lawbreakers.\n\nI find that the U.S. government is guilty of aiding and abetting a criminal enterprise. I find them guilty of importing criminals and sentence ALL former Presidents, Vice-Presidents, and members of the House and Senate to give up and forever relinquish their FAT pensions.\n\nGee if we could do that this problem would have been solved in a heartbeat
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BonesofaTeacher when most people do illegal things, they don't start protesting in the streets trying to get amnesty for doing them now do they? The way I look at it is this: If I were a thief I would damn sure not walk around with a spot light shining on myself while breaking into a house, which is fundamentally what the illegals are doing by marching in the streets.\n\nI agree sometimes the laws need to change, but this is not one of those laws. The only way to not discriminate in this issue is to not grant amnesty to the illegals, because that discriminates against everyone who did it the right way.\n\nSaul, what is the big deal about being a felon here, if your deported back to Mexico? It isn't. So the illegals becoming felons is a moot point. Now for the people here, that is a nice deterrent to keep them from helping illegals.
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It is a crime. Why deny it. And it does cause damage. And willfully breaking a law is bad.
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DUH!!!!!  and YES it is illegal
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Where did this false info came from?? i do not understand. The Congress has not legalized drugs in México...!!!!\n\nNop. I am going to explain what happened exactly: In Mexico the possession for personal and imediate use of Drugs has been always legal. This was permited in the penal code. The Drugs issue is a federal issue according to the health law. Now, There is a huge problem with drug dealing in small amounts in discos, schools, etc... And because this is a federal issue, the local police can not fight this kind of small drug dealing. So, what the Congress of Mexico did is 1) open the possibility of concurrent faculties between federation and local governments to fight drug dealing and 2) to determine the exact amount of drug allowed for personal and immediate consum. The last is legal ONLY when it is proved that you are a Drug Adict and you have a medical prescription for the usage of the permited amount of Drugs. This means that NO. there was no legalization of Drugs in Mexico. Actually it was a reform to help the local governments fight small drug dealing and to sharpen the laws in order to avoid legal arguments for small drug dealing. I have already answered to this question somewhere else, and i had other info. But now i say i agree totally. And by the way, the persons that need drugs are sometimes also ex-soldiers or sick people (of cancer for example). that are drug adiccts because of pain killers. I find this human and correct.\nSo. Again. Do not state something with out knowing what is it about. In Mexican news there is no big issue about this theme...look Reforma, Televisa (esmas) or la Jornada.
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THEY (legal and non legal immigrants) threw out the race card first.  Notice they are all for breaking the law?  They want a free ticket in to this country, expect to be handed jobs and  health benefits (free, I might add) automatically, and so far our government has obliged them.  It doesn't look like our goverment is really against illegal immigration.  It's a lie and a sad thing.  I am totally against illegal immigration.  If you want to come here that's great I'm not against that, just do it legally.
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I have to tell you I'm very disappointed to see some of the comments above posted ESPECIALLY from some of you who I have had disagreements in the past but gave a grudging respect to for being open and honest enough to debate, Congress passed a law called The Americans With Disabilities Act because disability is just that,  lacking the ability to do as others, would you not want wheelchair ramps so para & quadrepelgics can get in and out of a building, or a stall wide enough to use a public restroom? Would you not have translation for the deaf in public policy debates or simply so they too can enjoy the basic pleasure of understanding a television show with closed captioning? Would you step over them for a dollar? I Ask because that sure seems to be the case with some of the posts above mine, man I'm not even a christian but I find some of you AMORAL, what the heck happened to make you so bitter, so hateful for the less fortunate? Or does your mind ever even consider anyone other than yourself? Doing the right thing is doing the right thing PERIOD, but I see some would have it turn political as if basic human dignity is a only for those who are whole, well you show you will never be whole as a human with comments like those, you lack some fundamental quality that is what makes us human, I see your posts and I'm ashamed to be in the same species as you, Hope nothing ever happens to those posters that makes life's challanges so great that they may look for or need assistance, but if it did, you'd damn well deserve it. \n\nI see one post has since been removed after consideration of my answer, Thank you for taking the time to see another side and after consideration, being open and honest enough to take the post down, open minds are the essence of a civilized society.
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I think the felony for aiding an immigrant is a non-starter and a negotiating point the House put in.  I think if we can't enforce the laws we have, all we would have with that law is an even more 'illigitimate law'.  (I am sure that is in your text book too.)\n\nHowever, while the principles you are discussing are one theory of political analysis, using any one theory alone is like wearing blinders.  Yours doesn't get you to the point in this case.\n\nThere is frustration with a demand for rights we reserve to legal status individuals, and with the assumption that overburdening schools and services should not be taken into account if the people doing it are 'good people'.  Basic human rights are different, and if we are physically being cruel to people or not allowing them due process or something, that would be different.\n\nThose who repeat that illegal immigrants are here illegally aren't dim wits unable to comprehend basic social theory, and many have progressed beyond Poli Sci 101.  What you see is people saying that the ones demanding legal resident rights aren't entitled to them, and are out of line to demand that kind of rights.   Those rights are conferred precisely because people are here legally.  Illegal immigrants aren't part of the protected class that came here legally at a rate designed for assimilation. \n\nI believe that, myself.  I think the best argument for regularizing current illegal immigrants is that while we have to close the border and limit immigrants, these people are already here.  As a practical matter, if they would meet our standards (not gang members or terrorists, and self supporting), a lot of people think it is best to just say 'ok start today' on tough enforcement.  The problem is that the amnesty in 1986 to do just that was taken by many as something that would happen regularly.  Since 1986, there has not been enforcement at the border and the illegal immigrant population has exploded.  Moreover, people come onto this site and actually say they should get amnesty 'because nothing has been done for Mexicans since 1986', as if amnesty were a regular process.  That would nullify our immigration policies, which have good reason for existing.\n\nI think we need to close the border, really, really close the border.  Then we can turn to the people inside, and decide how to handle that.  It is a lot easier to be empathetic when you are not being told that theoretically we should support the poor of the entire world.
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The poster above still just is'nt getting it\nSince when was reporting an actual infraction of the law a smear campaign?  The man was caught with an illegal documented perscription, end of story, THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED.  Now if some people choose to smear him that is their own perogative, but simply stating a fact is simply stating a fact
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No, it isn't. It's quite simply that in recent years it is getting out of hand. As the owner of a fairly large construction company, I can give you an example why people like myself have such an issue with illegal aliens. In 1995, the cost of framing a custom home was about $7.00 per sq. ft. . In 2005, the cost for the same job is about $3.25 per sq. ft.. This is DIRECTLY related to illegal aliens, in that they are highly skilled craftsmen who can do just as well a job, but because they don't have insurance, or pay taxes, they can cut a bid in HALF, and still maintain the same profit margin. Almost 30% of every penny the company makes goes to taxes alone. Add another 5% of each individual's income for worker's comp. Which illegal aliens can't get, nor can they get the bonding and liability insurance policies I am requred to maintain as a part of doing business. Their average income is $12 per hour. My average payout for wages is $18 per hour. That's per man. So do the math. How much house do you think I can afford to build at $3.25 per foot, at $18 per man hour with a 9 man crew per jobsite? Notice, the cost of housing (along with the price of fuel) has increase almost 150 PERCENT in the past 10 years, yet the income of TENS OF THOUSANDS of AMERICAN construction workers has been cut in half, just so they can compete in an open job market. So tell me mister, who SHOULD I be pissed at? I don't see any senators running the bottom out of my business. But I do support ANY efforts they can make to keep ANYONE else from doing so. The White House has had ZERO impact on my particular job market. The criminal activities of 10 million Mexicans HAS.
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Just because a law doesn't make sense is no reason to knowingly break it. \n\nShould it be illegal? In my personal opinion, probably not. Is it illegal? Apparently yes. Did you know it was illegal at the time you broke it? Sounds like it.\n\nIf you don't like the law, change the law. Remember, just about every civil rights leader in the 1960s who stood up in defiance of bad laws were also prosecuted (successfully) under them. It's not about whether the laws are good or not. It's about whether, as a country, we are going to respect the rule of law.
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Legal vs Illegal...penalized or not. What it all comes down to. The good ole boys have moved there factories to Mexico. Its the cost of doing business. We have seen it time and time again. We can have a thousand laws on the books but they will never enforced. Why because its the cost of doing business. We could give things away medical,dental,food stamps, ect...The cost of doing business. Look at the profits of Campbell Soup, Pampers, Hughie's, Proctor and Gamble check the stock market. All the cost of doing business...We have all played a roll. We buy and support these companies....LOL
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So, the immigrants that started the United States were legal, eh?  Guess again.  The British government declared many of their actions illegal.  Since they were British citizens. this makes them illegal as well.  Also, if we deport all of the illegal immigrants, how do you think our economy will fare?  Do you really think that citizens will take the jobs that the illegal aliens have?  There is no way.  Also, almost all, if not all of the people participating in the petitions were naturalized citizens.
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Actually, there are a whole slew of states that have passed or are passing new laws against illegal immigration, as well.  This week has been amazing in that regard.  Query what will happen when the laws make their way up to the Supreme Court on a federal supremacy attack, but the states say they are tired of waiting for the federal government.\n\nSome place called Herndon had an election where illegal immigration was made the main issue, and the incumbants were kicked out too.  It was in all the press.  Herndon said the whole country was watching, including Congress.
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The two immigration bills that have been passed by the House and the Senate are still not law. The House and Senate bills have to be reconciled in committee. Both versions are worlds apart with the House version being much harsher and offering no relief for people currently in the U.S. illegally. As to what version is going to survive after comittee or if any law will be passed your guess is as good as mine.