...do you think the individual states will step up and begin doing something? In Georgia, they've passed a very strict illegal immigration law that's waiting to be signed by the governor. In NY, they're starting to crack down on illegals by arresting them at traffic stops and so forth, and then contacting the Feds. Many border states are threatening to use the National Guard to supplement the Border Patrol. Is this where we're going to see this issue resolved? At the state level? Doesn't that concern you that the Federal goobermint won't do what it's charged to do in the Constitution? Thoughts? \n\nOh and yes, I'm sure this is a racist question, so let's get that out of the way early. I'm a racist, xenophobe, fascist...blah blah blah...now, on to the answers.
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LOL glad we got all the ugly stuff out of the way first.\n\nWell this is a very good question. I am going to have to surf on some Georgia info I see. Maybe they will be the example for others to follow. One way or another something has to give.\n\nThe reason our government isnt handeling it as of yet? They are owned by corporations now, just as our media is. Sad but true. Corporation's are behind the tremendious backing going on at the moment. To pay for the massive propaganda that is being put out to the American public. Many of us have been very active the last few days, in areas of repeated emails to congress and the president over the issues and how we REALLY feel and VOTE on it. A quite bombardment. Internet polls all reflect 95% against Amnesty. So its coming down to who shouts the loudest and has access to all the forms of media to inform those not on the internet. Yes many many are beyond outradge at their lack of protection and responsibilty to these matters.\n\nThere has been a large increase at the boarders. Minuetmen are very much in need of more members. My guess is that National guard will end up the next alternative. But, to be honest that is what they are for. Protecting OUR country. And were not meant to be sent overseas.\n\nThis is one area we may have been underestimated in. The American drive when they want something and when they have been threatened. And as of late their biggest tactic besides lies and propaganda has been threats and intimadation. Americans don't take to well to demands and threats.\n\nPlease email me some website links about the changes being made in Georgia and how they are being made.
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The flood of American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week, sparking calls for increased patrols to stop the illegal immigration. The actions of President Bush are prompting the exodus among left-leaning citizens who fear they'll soon be required to hunt, pray, and agree with Bill O'Reilly. \n\nCanadian border farmers say it's not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, animal-rights activists, and Unitarians crossing their fields at night. \n\n"I went out to milk the cows the other day, and there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn," said Manitoba farmer Red Greenfield, whose acreage borders North Dakota. "The producer was cold, exhausted and hungry." \n\n"He asked me if I could spare a latte and some free-range chicken. When I said I didn't have any, he left. Didn't even get a chance to show him my screenplay, eh?" \n\nIn an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected higher fences, but the liberals scaled them. So he tried installing speakers that blare Rush Limbaugh across the fields. "Not real effective," he said. "The liberals still got through, and Rush annoyed the cows so much they wouldn't give milk." \n\nOfficials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet liberals near the Canadian border, pack them into Volvo station wagons, drive them across the border and leave them to fend for themselves. \n\n"A lot of these people are not prepared for rugged conditions," an Ontario border patrolman said. "I found one carload without a drop of drinking water. They did have a nice little Napa Valley cabernet, though." \n\nWhen liberals are caught, they're sent back across the border, often wailing loudly that they fear retribution from conservatives. Rumors have been circulating about the Bush administration establishing re-education camps in which liberals will be forced to drink domestic beer and watch NASCAR races. \n\nIn recent days, liberals have turned to sometimes-ingenious ways of crossing the border. Some have taken to posing as senior citizens on bus trips to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching a half-dozen young vegans disguised in powdered wigs, Canadian immigration authorities began stopping buses and quizzing the supposed senior-citizen passengers on Perry Como and Rosemary Clooney hits to prove they were alive in the '50s. \n\n"If they can't identify the accordion player on The Lawrence Welk Show, we get suspicious about their age," an official said. \n\nCanadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage and renting all the good Susan Sarandon movies. \n\n"I feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can't support them," an Ottawa resident said. "How many art-history majors does one country need?" \n\nIn an effort to ease tensions between the United States and Canada, Vice President Dick Cheney met with the Canadian ambassador and pledged that the administration would take steps to reassure liberals, a source close to Cheney said. \n\n"We're going to have some Peter, Paul & Mary concerts. And we might put some endangered species on postage stamps. The President is determined to reach out," he said.
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I Think The Citizens Are Starting To Realize The Threats And We Will Not Allow This\nThe Line Is Drawn In The Sand\n\nWashington Is Aware That, If There Is Not A Military Presense On The Border By 5/25, The Citizens Will Exercise Their 2nd Amendment Rights To Stop This Invasion\n\nIf Washington Will Not Act On This Ultimatum, \nWE THE PEOPLE Will Take It Into Our Own Hands\n\nMaybe When They (Washington) Gets A Taste Of That, \nThey Will Begin To Take Care Of This Crisis\n\nThen Again,...Maybe They Will Just Leave It Up To Us
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Its not gonna work this time. In Texas the were expecting 1500 Hispanic folks to show up for a rally. They got 500,000 or more. When they get legal and can vote, the changes will happen so fast the right wing hateful people will wonder what happened. I'm looking froward to it. We are a nation of immigrants or at least Grandchildren of Immigrants. How can we consider people criminals just for being here and working hard?
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No. It's the present!\n\nThat article was written poorly!  After reading it three times, I still haven't figured out if it's the American police or Mexican police!   Anyways, it doesn't matter regarding your question.  It sounds like one criminal group is fighting another for an illegal smuggling route.  What does the immigration law have to do with that? \n\nBreaking the law is just that!  We are finally trying to enforce some of our immigration laws. Our Southern border is our weakest link in our national security. It's about time we're doing something about it!
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If I'm not mistaken, at least one state (I think it is Arizona) has already taken action to "compensate" its citizens by legally refusing to forward income tax deduction monies to the Federal government, instead, putting those monies back into the state coffers to compensate for all the additional expenses incurred by illegal aliens. While this is not literally a monetary compensation to any given individual, it IS at least a small step in the right direction, towards letting the Federal government get the message that states under seige are no longer willing to tolerate unstopped abuses of social systems by illegals. \n\nWhile I think your idea of Americans receiving actual monetary compensation from the Federal government in the form of a check may get a few folks to whoop and holler, in reality, it will never happen, and you know that. What really needs to happen is, we as a country have to put pressure on our LOCAL governments (county commisioners, etc.) to adopt and implement laws such as those in Hazelton, PA., whereby it becomes illegal for employers and landlords to do business with anyone, from anywhere, who is here illegally. Once these two entities realize that it is not worth the fines and possible jail time, and stop making it so easy for illegals to be here without impunity (because we all know that the Feds aren't doing anything to stop them), then, and only then, will we see a nationwide reduction in these problems. In towns where these laws have been inacted, even in a short period of time they are reporting dramatic decreases in things like violent crimes and abuses of their social programs. Illegals are forced to move around as more towns stand up and say, "NOT IN MY BACKYARD!". Eventually, if enough towns show some backbone, and enact similar restrictions, there won't be very many places left to hide.\n\nWe as a people also need to lean on our recently elected officials in Congress, via phone, emails, and letters, to push for more funding for agencies like Border Patrol and ICE. I have personally reported several businesses in my area that blatantly hire illegals, and have been told by ICE, in effect, not to hold my breath for action on my complaint report, because they do not have enough field agents to handle their already overwhelming case loads. Even when large groups of illegals are evident - as in my county's main courthouse, for example, on any given day - ICE does not have the resources needed to show up with a van and agents to do the job....and the local law enforcement (cops, court bailiffs) have to basically look the other way (which they HATE), as there are no laws in place that would give them the authority to ask a single one of these non-English speaking, undocumented defendents for any proof of legal status. I recently saw an ad in my county's newspaper, advertising for Court Translators (English-Spanish), for $65 an hour. $65 AN HOUR!!!! And who is paying those salaries? Take a wild guess. Yup - it's you and me, me maties (pirate talk seems appropriate, as we are being raped and pillaged).\n\nThere are sound, sane, do-able things we as concerned citizens can do. Expecting the Federal government to send us all checks is not one of them.
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That the Congress is now wanting to give amnesty to all these people. I think there is a hidden agenda there and I think it will undermine the present midleclass. I live in AZ and see the jobs construction jobs these persons are taking that most of us couldn't live on. Now there is a push for minority small business owners, painters, stucco, roofing etc looking for bilingual persons to run crews of these people putting many of us oit of work.
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Border Patrol told to stand down in Arizona \nBy Jerry Seper \nTHE WASHINGTON TIMES \n \n\nU.S. Border Patrol agents \nhave been ordered not to arrest illegal aliens \nalong the section of the Arizona border \nwhere protesters patrolled last month \nbecause an increase in apprehensions there \nwould prove the effectiveness of Minuteman volunteers, \nThe Washington Times has learned.\n \nMore than a dozen agents, \nall of whom asked not to be identified for fear of retribution, \nsaid orders relayed by Border Patrol supervisors \nat the Naco, Ariz., station made it clear \nthat arrests were "not to go up" \nalong the 23-mile section of border \nthat the volunteers monitored to protest illegal immigration. \n\n"It was clear to everyone here what was being said and why,"\nsaid one veteran agent. \n"The apprehensions were not to increase \nafter the Minuteman volunteers left. \nIt was as simple as that." \n\nAnother agent said the Naco supervisors \n"were clear in their intention" \nto keep new arrests to an "absolute minimum" \nto offset the effect of the Minuteman vigil, \nadding that patrols along the border have been severely limited.\n \nBorder Patrol Chief David V. Aguilar \nat the agency's Washington headquarters \ncalled the accusations "outright wrong," \nsaying that supervisors at the Naco station \nhad not blocked agents from making arrests \nand that the station's 350 agents \nwere being "supported in carrying out" their duties. \n\n"Border Patrol agents \nare the front line of defense against terrorism," \nChief Aguilar said, \nadding that the 11,000 agents nationwide \nare "meeting that challenge, head-on ... \nas daunting a task as that may sound." \n\nThe chief -- a former head of the agency's Tucson sector, \nwhich includes the Naco station -- \nsaid that with the world watching the Arizona border \nbecause of the Minuteman Project, agents in Naco \n"demonstrated flexibility and resilience \nin carrying out their critical homeland security duties \nand responsibilities."\n \nBut Rep. Tom Tancredo, Colorado Republican, \nyesterday said "credible sources" within the Border Patrol \nalso had told him of the decision by Naco supervisors \nto keep new arrests to a minimum, \nsaying he was angry but not surprised.\n \n"It's like telling a cop to stand by \nand watch burglars loot a store but don't arrest any of them," \nhe said. \n"This is another example \nof decisions being made at the highest levels of the Border Patrol\nthat are hurting morale \nand helping to rot the agency from within.\n"I worry about our efforts in Congress \nto increase the number of agents," \nhe said. \n"Based on these kinds of orders, \nwe could spend the equivalent of the national debt \nand never have secure borders." \n\nMr. Tancredo, \nchairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus, \nblamed the Bush administration \nfor setting an immigration enforcement tone \nthat suggests to those enforcing the law \nthat he is not serious about secure borders.\n \n"We need to get the president to come to grips \nwith the seriousness of the problem," \nhe said. \n"I know he doesn't like to utter the words, 'I was wrong,' \nbut if we have another incident like September 11 \nby people who came through our borders without permission, \nI hope he doesn't have to say 'I'm sorry.' " \n\nDuring the Minuteman vigil, \nBorder Patrol supervisors in Arizona discounted their efforts,\nsaying a drop in apprehensions during their protest \nwas because of the Mexican government's deployment \nof military and police south of the targeted area \nand a new federal program \nknown as the Arizona Border Control Initiative \nthat brought manpower increases to the state. \n\nThe Naco supervisors blamed the volunteers \nfor unnecessarily tripping sens
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where is the 10 point plan >? \n\nwait wait there is #9 ok ok I see it all now mmm I say send them all back legal or illegal I don't care they all need to leave. \nGod bless the SOUTH may she rise agin :)
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I think it's time we nut kick Vicente Fox. There have been numerous incursions of our land by both the Mexican military and federales who are escorting illegals and drug runners into the US. They have fired on Border Patrol Agents and local Law Enforcement Officers. This has been outlined by Arizona Rep Tom Tancredo on various news channels, yet it still goes on! The link from fireman shows the contempt this scum has for us, and it's still tolerated. JD is right again - time to lock and load! The only thing that's brown on my land that I won't shoot is my dogs! God Bless the USA!!!
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Expecting people to respect the law is not racist. I agree with your position, but I do care who is in the country. Respecting the law begins with not entering the country illegally. Have no fear though Democrats are going to give them amnesty and then they will all be legal. The new incoming head of the Homeland Security Committee has stated that his first goal will be to review the border fence with an eye towards scrapping the whole project. I am also sure that now that Democrats control The House, The Senate's first order of business will be to pass the Kennedy/McCain immigration bill, which will not only legalize all that are hear already, but will also allow no less than 400000 new immigrants into the country per year. The major stumbling block to passage has been that the House would not accept it and that doesn't appear to be a problem anymore.
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What do you do when you want something from someone you can't beat up?  You kiss their as_s, right?\n\nWhat do you do when you want something from someone you can beat up?  You beat them up.  \n\nSo, they think they can intimidate us into giving them what they want.  Well, they're SORELY mistaken.  I'm fairly liberal, and I might have been cool about this, but they made a serious mistake when they started DEMANDING these things.\n\nAnd the lack of assimilation is ridiculous.  They're chanting things in Spanish that the citizens, those who vote for the freaking representatives and senators, can't understand.  This is extremely disrespectful.  They've won themselves over, but they've turned the rest of us away.
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Really the only thing we can do is pressure our elected officials to enforce the laws already on the books. The immigration bill that they are looking at now is just a farce and is loaded with things to enhance the political stature of the various sponsors. Of course, we all know that the government isn't about to listen to us, the little people, so, what can we do. If I thought I could get paid to go help build the fence, or if i were younger, join the border patrol. A moat? Thats funny, Florida gators? THats even funnier. You folks on here crack me up. Call your congressman, email your congressman thats the only thing you can do to make yourself feel better. there is nothing else you can do.
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I think the rebellion will be at the ballot box if Congress goes against the majority will.  Blood is hot on this one, but thoughts of revenge by illegal immigration opponents are aimed at the government, in my opinion.
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Still waiting for intelligent answers? I hope people are just busy typing, after the first two I saw.\nI have to say, I agree with you- we need the checks and balances back in our government. Stagnation was going on, and I think a few of us were about ready to take to the streets in rebellion. It's kind of a shame the way you have to MAKE people act right. I think we will see more cooperation, less arrogance now that they have gotten the wake up call of the elections. I am hopeful.
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I want to see how many stick up for the bad guys on this post.\n\n\nTon -down a few posts has the correct figures.\nWhat-ever ----you think even the Illegals would want them out-away from their children  who are here!\nDar you are correct\n\nWe need to do what we can for the protection of people.\n\nSq-what the hay are you taking about?
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Come on do you really think it's Bush's doing? I swear the Democrates are hypocrite especially Hilary Clinton. Sean Hannity had a tape of her actually 2 one from months earlier slamming the illegal aliens and a recent one talking about how great they are. My whole problem with all of this is that they are here illegally, why aren't we out arresting them and sticking them on buses and taking them back across the boarder. They are out of control and if we allow them to stay we are just setting ourselves up for future problems. Riots because Gee if we throw a fit and protest then we get our way. What about all the ones over on the other side who are trying to follow our laws and filling out the paper work, is it fair to them. What are we teaching these people? I'll tell you, we are teaching them that it's OK to break our laws, it's OK to protest, well I don't agree, they need to be dealt with and taught that there is no tolerance to those who would break our laws and not follow our rules. I am all for allowing people into our great country, I love my country and I understand why they want to come here but it needs to be done the right way. If it isn't then it will set a president that we won't like and will not be able to live with in the long run. I want people who will follow our laws and respect them. So me that you will do the right thing then I'm all for you coming here.