This is just a question for atheists, Im curious do you feel adultery is immorral.  Also, how many Christians do you think well be on here saying they just want to put in their two cents and say adultery is wrong.
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Ugh. I hate the terms "moral" and "immoral" because of their current connotation. I really prefer "right" and "wrong," so I'm going to use those instead. I also don't really believe in marriage, but that's another story.\n\nAdultery is wrong because it, presumably, shows a lack of empathy towards one's significant other. If a couple are "swingers," and want to engage in mutual adultery with no hard feelings, I have no problem with that. For regular folks, though, I see it as breaking a promise and disregarding the feelings of someone you, presumably, care about. So, I feel that it is wrong.
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i think the begging for forgiveness after a sin is a cop out.people know that killing/cheating/etc are sins yet they do it anyway knowing that they can always ask for forgiveness when they shouldn't even be thinking of sinning,if they're actually "religious"(who are suppose to be loyal&true to their god.)killing/cheating/etc are conscious decisions & deliberate actions.people don't just accidentally cheat on their significant other.i don't buy into the "i'm not perfect.i make mistakes.i'm human." excuses for their evil/sneaky behavior.there should be zero tolerance.you are clear about the rules yet disobey anyway due to temptation/etc.therefore, repeat offending sinners will be denied & punished accordingly:)
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Well, if you're looking for technical truths, yes you would be commiting fornication...but not adultry...because you're not "cheating" on a spouse. She would, however because she is. She is married and has a commitment to someone. Have relations with you is breaking that commitment. And in a sense, she is also commiting fornication.\n\nBut I believe, and in my opinion, that if someone (who may or may not be married) is encouraging someone else (who is) to break that commitment with their spouse, then they are just as at fault for adultry as that person is (in a matter or principle). I mean, come on, be an adult about these things and make the right choice. An affair, to me, just shows that two people can't make a commitment. \n\nHope this helps.
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My understanding is that it would be.  It would still be considered adultery.\n\nThere are many things these days that can interrupt a married couple's sex life.  \n\nI could understand why that would be a temptation, but vows sometimes involve sacrifice.  And as difficult as it would be, I believe that God would enable a person to persevere.\n\nI hope this is hypothetical and that you're not in this situation.  But I know there are people who live it.
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DIVORCE AND SEPARATION  Most of you, say you believe in Jesus, but the problem is, many of you do not want to obey what He & the Writers of the Bible tell you.\n\n"We may claim to love God, but how we react to what his inspired Word, the Bible, teaches will reveal our true thoughts, even the very intentions of the heart." In other words, you have your on thoughts on the matter, & heck with what the Bible says. But I'm going to take the time to explain what the Scriptures say about Divorce & Remarriage.\n\nGod, the Originator of marriage, designed it to be a permanent union. But is there any Scriptural reason for a person to divorce his or her mate—and one that would allow for the possibility of remarrying? Jesus addressed this matter by declaring: “I say to you that whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of fornication, and marries another commits adultery.” (Matthew 19:9) Sexual infidelity by a mate is the only ground for a divorce that will allow the innocent mate to remarry.\n\nIn addition, the Bible’s words at 1 Corinthians 7:10-16, while encouraging marriage mates to stay together, allow for separation. Some, after trying very hard to preserve their marriage, feel they have no choice but to separate. What can be acceptable Scriptural grounds for such a step?\n\nOne is willful nonsupport. When getting married, a husband assumes the responsibility of providing for his wife and children. The man who willfully fails to provide the material necessities of life “has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.” (1 Timothy 5:8) So separation is possible.\n\nAnother is extreme physical abuse. So then, if a mate physically abuses his wife, the victim may separate. (Galatians 5:19-21; Titus 1:7) “Anyone loving violence [God’s] soul certainly hates.”—Psalm 11:5.\n\nAnother ground for separation is the absolute endangerment of a believer’s spirituality—one’s relationship with God. When a mate’s opposition, perhaps including physical restraint, has made it impossible to pursue true worship and has imperiled the believer’s spirituality, then some believers have found it necessary to separate.—Matthew 22:37; Acts 5:27-32.\n\nHowever, if divorce is pursued under such circumstances, one would not be free to enter a new marriage. According to the Bible, the only legitimate ground for divorce that permits remarriage is adultery or “fornication.”—Matthew 5:32.\n\nThe Bible allows only one reason for getting a divorce that frees a person to remarry, and that is fornication (Greek, porneia, gross sexual immorality). If fornication is committed, then the innocent mate may decide whether to get a divorce or not.—Matthew 5:32.\n\nAfter telling the Pharisees that the Mosaic concession of divorcing their wives was not the arrangement that had prevailed “from the beginning,” Jesus said: “I say to you that whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of fornication, and marries another commits adultery.” (Mt 19:8, 9)
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I am a Christian and my husband and I enjoy doing whatever we can to please each other, oral included. God intended for that stuff to be fun and exciting within the boundries of marriage so why not indulge? It's funny how people think Christians are prudes! So not true! Now we don't watch porns or anything stupid like that. We get our jollies from the joy of each other's company. Just the way God intended!
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I am so sorry God forgive me but sentimentals answer was hysterical. my husband is here and we are just tickled, of course he wasnt serious. i hope.\nyeah one wife is the biblical way to go.
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I can more than understand your frustrations with your fellow christians.  I get a tad frustrated with other atheists / agnostics when they jump down christians' throats.  But I am starting to just let it go and not get too heavily involved, if at all---there will always be a few christians and a few atheists/agnostics who will continue this eternal throat-jumping sport.  \n\nLet them.  I try hard not to listen (or read) to the christians proselytizing harshly anymore and I stop listening to the atheists/agnostics once they start name-calling or putting each other down.  I just don't listen and skip over the answers that involves name-calling, putting-down or proselytizing. \n\nSimple as that---stop reading, stop listening.  I just let others know that not all christians or atheists/agnostics are like that to those who are worried or wondering why, like you just did.  :-)   *hug*
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Where does it say in the Bible that sex is only for procreation? It says sex outside of marriage(between a man and a woman) is wrong. And I don't think that bd/sm..D/s is wrong or they are devil worshipers. Again as long as it is with your wife or husband. I am truly sorry that you have dealt with Christians like you described. Please know that A) not all Christians are like that and B) the Christian faith does not teach to be Judgmental.  I know that there are a lot and I mean a lot of Christians that are judgmental. They are wrong! But, also know that we are not supposed to be judgmental but at the same time we are not supposed to be open to all things. We hate the sin not the person. For example: I do not hate people that are homosexual. I don't look down upon them like I am better than them or anything like that. I don't gay bash. Homosexuality is a sin just like any other sin. I have my sins to deal with that are no lesser than theirs.  However I am not going to accept homosexuality as a life style any more than I would accept murder, child abuse, alcoholism, or lying as a lifestyle.  They are all equally bad in the eyes of the Lord.  I do pray for those people as fervently as I pray for my own sins and ask God with help in my own sinful urges.\n\ntosmith
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Sure!  I probably wouldn't feel nearly as cautious about it if more of these relationships were 2 men/1 woman, though, instead of 2 women/1 man.  There's something frighteningly archaic and patriarchal in the latter case, but I do believe that consenting adults should be able to lead the lifestyle they choose.  Morality is subjective, and "marriage" is only "sacred" if you're a christian.  For the rest of us, it's a legality.  There are still plenty of us who are NOT christian, and who don't care to revert to the 19th century and live under the oppression of that incredibly limited perspective.
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I seen this man last month in my travels. Although I give him some credit for whatever it is he's trying to do I feel it is not in anyway comparable to what Jesus himself had to bare. If that's his intention he is not only cheating but failing miserably.
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how does one differentiate between 'real christians' and the rest who are somehow........ imaginary?--real christians try to end suffering any way they can--voting is one way they can do this--however, I am kind of glad 'Love my lord' does not
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I can see why you feel this way. I am a Christian but the ones who say they are Christians are they using it as a name tag or are they really saved or not and living the walk instead of just talking the talk? People should not hide the fact that they are Christians or saved either for that matter. But we have to understand as Christians or saved people that sometimes the only Jesus people see is us! Are we doing and living the way Jesus would and treating others the way he would have .... WWJD What would Jesus do is something to ask ourselves before doing anything that may be questionable in God's eyes. Do we treat others the way Jesus would? Sorry I am rambling on here so i will get off my soap box now lol. Sorry! Real Christians should not have affairs either or ever. But we are not perfect either and can slip up and make mistakes and err but we need to get out of it and ask for forgiveness from God and move on and not live any longer that way ! God hates divorce and adultery!
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Good point, but first of all, we need to deal with adultery separately to murder and molestation.  The latter two are most definitely crimes, and society regards them as seriously now as it ever has done.  However, adultery is not in the same class, indeed, some, including me, would not call it a crime (I am not saying that makes it right or acceptable, just stating a fact).\n\nI note that you call adultery 'theft', but is it?  Theft usually involves the taking of anothers possession without their permission.  However, in adultery, one is not dealing in possessions, but people, and further more, people with free will - ie: one cannot steal another's partner because that partner's agreement is necessary.  It is not like stealing an object which has no say in the matter, adultery is a conscious and willing act on behalf of both parties involved.  Also, have you ever thought that, in some cases, adultery may be what keeps a marriage together?  Consider the younger wife of a much older husband - he has lost interest in the physical side of things and his wife is extremely frustrated.  It starts to cause problems in other aspects of their relationship, as she blames him for her frustration, and he feels guilty about it.  So, she takes a secret lover, her physical needs are satisfied, she no longer holds her husband responsible for her frustrations, and he thinking she is content with the way things are no longer feels guilty.  They still love each other in other ways.  Of course, the danger is in the secret lover becoming more important than the husband.  Just a thought.  \n\nOne also needs to consider motive.  Too complex an area to discuss here I feel.\n\nOverall though I do feel that as far as proper crimes are concerned, in the UK, we are not tough enough on criminals, and for a long time  the human rights of criminals have been considered at the expense of those of their victims.  Only recently have our politicians woken up to this fact, something society has been aware of, and complaining about for years!  How on earth people so out of touch with society can presume to govern us is beyond me!  But that is another topic entirely.
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I'd agree with you. But I think you're generalizing the whole christianity...cause...not everyone DOES have God as their foundation for their marriage. I mean...God is love...and if God isnt' in the relationship...then neither is love. I think instead of throwing so much at christians...generalize more in terms of...humans. Yeah...we all sin...but it's still the person's choice to truly start a relationship with God in the center...and yes...looking at porno, masturbating...sodomizing...and w/e other fornicating act...IS sin...and should never be commited by anyone...not even married couples. A healthy relationship sure..has sex..cause God created it not only for having offspring....or recreation...but also being a pleasure. He's good that way. Why change it?\n\n\nOh...dude...I DO suggest you not try to correct people so much. It's not right to just tell people what to do. You gotta explain what God has to say...the Bible says everything we need to know. Try not to argue with people...that just causes more disruptions and arguements. I agree with a lot that you're saying...but preaching is not about rubbing people's beliefs in their face...it's about showing them respectfully the truth. Follow Jesus's example...
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Actually Im having a affair right now-Iam a Christian women who is a leader in my church and have been having a on an off again affair with the same man for almost 3yrs  It has come to the point that I am considering leaving my husband for this man.  Its a very confusing feeling.  My husband and I have been rocky for about 4yrs and I actually met this man when we were seperated and a I was going to another church.  This other man is now in jail and I am sooo considering being with him as DUMB as it sounds.  Dont be fooled my husband is not a innocent bystandered he has cheated on my on three occasionsw and its been about 2yrs and now he wants to put 100% into our relationship but Iam very tired of making it work and just want out. I have never been unfaithful before and I would of never considered having a affair before I feel in love with this other man
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No. I am an adulterous Christian. (divorce, remarriage)\n\nOne sins no greater than the other. Let them be.