Who can't grasp the idea that yes illegal aliens have taxes withheld from their check if even if they are working with a fake SS#.  But the illegal alien is aware that this is going to happen so they fill out their W-2 with 5,6,7,8 or more dependence so very little is taken.
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Do some research!\n\nLess than 1/10th of 1% of illegal immigrants pay taxes.\n\nThe Social Security Card (fake) only enables them to be employed. \n\nYes, to the employer, they claim many "exemptions" - so they have less taken out of their paycheck.\n\nThey learn all about this from those who give them the fake cards.\n\nBut most, simply get "cash" payment from unscrupulous employers, who don't want to pay "matching funds." Same thing holds true for those who "sub-contract" and give them a form 1099 at the end of the year. The 1099 is ignored by the so-called sub-contractor, and the employer if later contacted by IRS, holds up a paper showing a sub-contract agreement. (also bogus). \n\nDoubt seriously many employers who go the sub-contract route, even have to pony up to the IRS.
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ILLEGALS PAY TAXES and this is why there are so many.  It is impossible to become legal....it is called oppression in my book.  To become legal at least for the Mexicans.....They have to apply and wait at least 15 years for a denial or acceptance.  Lets use an analogy..  My child graduated high school at 18 years old....then has to wait 15 years to be gainfully employed....that means he will be 33 years old before he is able to become employed....what sense does that make....in the meantime what does he do to support himself?  Here are my thoughts on why this situation is as it is and will continue to stay as so:\n\nI don't wish to offend you but I do wish to inform you..... There is no TAX Free money in regards to the majority of the illegals.... unless they work in cash paying jobs ... like construction for example... Lots of people hide in the construction business for that very reason..... illegals are just working in construction. We have American dead beat dads who work in it too so they get easy money under the table as we call it so as not to pay child support. Most industries pay with payroll checks. If an illegal works in an industry that does pay with payroll checks then the appropriate federal and state taxes are removed. I recently did a spot check on payroll checks from the main industry in my town from 4 different illegal pay stubs..... 2 from poultry and 2 from restaurants. I did an estimate based on those 4 pay stubs in regards to the shifts worked at each one of those industries. I had an estimate of State taxes paid in to my state of $64,000.00. I did not figure up the Federal Taxes but you best believe that they have been raking it in also. Please keep in mind that the county that I live in is not ranked among the largest in my state. I would love to be able to do a State wide survey, but the problem is getting people to trust you not to use their information against them. You may be surprised to also be informed that at least 2 of these people had health insurance for which they paid for & utilized, they also had an additional voluntary $5.00 taken out each week as a donation for United Way Fund. I did no guesstimates on those donations, but just these 2 people alone donate a solid figure of $520.00 @ year which has to be noted as community service. IT WAS A REAL EYE OPENER TO ME. Please understand that the illegal does not file federal income taxes.... he does fall in a low income category and would be eligible to receive most of his tax money paid in as refunds... now do you really think that our government wants to make them legal so they have to give that money back ..... NO, of course not. The fence is going to be a joke. Who cares build the fence. The American public has clamored that they wish for this atrocity to be built. Then once all those billions of dollars are sunk into the building of this shameful wall......there will be no money for mass deportations...You seed this is why the government is building this wall... We all know that it will not serve the purpose for which it is built....They didn't even build a levy that could protect New Orleans..... the illegals crossing are just as unpredictable.....Build the fence so they will be able to say later well we don't have the money now for deportations.......Also you will see discounts on ladders on the other side of the border. You just need a ladder to safely scale the wall without a scratch. .THE POLITICIANS DO NOT WANT TO SEND THE ILLEGAL BACK
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They should try and remember that number then try to file taxes on that number and see how far it gets you.  Many people work under a false social number and the only thing that happens is the money goes to the treasury where nobody can claim it because it does not match with the Social Security Administration.....
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Don't forget that these illegals are stealing.  "The phrase "cheap labor" is  a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor." Take, for example,an illegal  Mexican who sneaks in here with his wife and five children. He takes a job for five or six dollars an hour. At that wage with six dependents \nhe pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free. He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent, food stamps, and free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care. His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school, and require bi-lingual teachers and books that taxpayers provide. He doesn't have to worry about car insurance, life insurance, or home owners insurance. Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins, and printed material.  He cannot be fired, harassed, or sued. He and his family receive the equivalent of $20 to $30 an hour in  benefits, while working Americans are lucky to have $5 or $6 an hour left after paying their bills and his, and paying for increased crime, graffiti, and trash cleanup.  Cheap labor?   My ace.  I call it theft, even if we "leave the keys in the car."
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Im not sure of everything. but I do think that if the owner KNOWS tehre illegal but hires them any way jsut to make more money (pay immigrants less) then they have a pretty big fine---just not enough to stop them from hirining illigal immigrant.\nagain I dont know all my facts---this is just what I rember from school\n\n\n\n\n~shellybell~
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Your right we mexicans are very united and we believe in family. We will work as hard as possible to abe able to give our families a better life. I see it every day when American decide to kick out there 18 year old or I also see American divorced parents who either mom or dad do not want to help support there own children. I see more homeless white folks then anything else. In California I do not see a mexican begging for money why because me have to much pride for that. Our saying is We will rather die on our feet then live our lives on our knees. Please give respect to the people who are making your economy stronger. As for people who say that the dont pay taxes. Well guess what i work in a tax office and there are ways they do it. The apply for EIN but they are never able to receive disabilty, social secuirty or unemployment. They don't complain. If we do send illegals back then you american will be paying $75.00 for a bag of tomatoes.
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Americans are willing to do the jobs that illegals do! When I was in high school I picked oranges in the summer and worked in packing houses, and so did a lot of my friends.  The difference is illegals work for next to nothing, something that Americans can't do.  The next time you say that they do the jobs that we are too lazy to do, please think about all the hardworking Americans that won't be able to earn a decent wage, pay taxes, and support our economy because an Illegal is  working for twenty-five cents an hour.  Those same taxes that their employers aren't paying are being paid by the rest of us, and when an illegal gets hurt on the job he or she isn't going to be denied emergency health care.  This ultimately causes the rest of us honest tax payers to cover that burden.  Thinking that illegals are necessary for our economy to function doesn't make any sense, the ONLY people it helps are the law breaking businesses who hire them.  Isn't it funny how liberals who are normally incredibly anti-big business are all for cheap illegal labor?
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I agree with some, but not all of your thoughts...\n\n1) when they come here and work, they are paying taxes - it gets taken out of their paychecks. So does Social Security. \n2) when they go to the store here, they pay taxes, just like you and I. Same thing at the gas pumps, liquor stores, mall, etc. Its not like they come here, work and take the money to Mexico to go grocery shopping. So, they are contributing to the economy - more so than rich folks in America that hide all their money so they DONT have to pay taxes. \n3) they are humans...they have HUMAN RIGHTS. \n\nLast study I read said that Illegals contriubute $90 BILLION dollars to Social Security a year, and only receive $5 BILLION in outside aide. That leaves $85 BILLION to the rest of us. Im also willing to bet that there are more African Americans in our prison system than illegal immigrants - so they are obviously following our laws, despite having "jumped a border." At least they arent killing each other over gang territory or robbing their own people or getting over on charities like wwhats been going on with all the Katrina aide...\n\nNow that I think about it, I dont agree at all with you!
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if  they  would  check  out  the  social   security  numbers   these   illegals   are  stealing,  that  would   stop  a  lot  of  it.  you  can   bet   your   white   ass,  if  you  went   in   with  a   fake   number   they  would   check  you  out  and   have   you   arrested.and   if  your  white  and   american  you   cant   get   any  thing   any  way.all  you  can  do   is   pay   for   it.
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Aren´t taxes deducted from ppls pay checks???If so that means they also pay taxes,,,
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What exactly is "handed off" to illegal immigrants?\nThe general assumption that illegal immigrants are here to take what's rightfully yours is as racist as it is ignorant.\nImmigrants (legal or not) come here looking for better opportunities and quality of life.\nIllegal immigrants are faced with hardships you couldn't understand unless you became one.  They are forced to work two and three different jobs making less than minimum wage and are taken advantage of because of their legal status.\nWhat's ironic is that they pay taxes just like you and me.\nSo... they work harder for less money and on top of that pay taxes that pay the salaries of those politicians so thirsty to kick them out of the country.\n\nGoing back to the original question; those that don't want illegal mexicans in this country are not racists.  They just find it hypocritical that a group of people braking the law (a federal one at that) are protected by some politicians just to gain popular acceptance.\n\nTo those of you that share the asker's opinion that illegal immigrants are a threat to "this country and its economy and security", I ask - how has illegal immigration affected you directly?  Did anybody get your dream job because they would do it for less money?  Did anybody get the low rent apartment you wanted?\n\n\n******  stoop_fer_lyfe ******\nI DO KNOW what I'm talking about.  I also live in a community riddled with illegal immigrants and am very close to many of them.\nWhat you fail to understand is that they buy new cars, buy houses or apartments and have credit cards - all things that need a credit report.  Banks have changed credit requirements to accommodate them because financial institutions are not immigration officers, they are in business to make money and are not braking any law by lending money to someone that can provide Income Tax Returns.  It may also be hard for you to believe that the government - regardless of the red flags it raises - accepts those Tax Returns and turns a blind eye to the migration legality of the issuer; again, the IRS is not responsible for policing immigration laws.\nMaybe you have never filed a tax return, but you don't need an employer to report and pay taxes for you.  You are then 'Self-Employed', and you don't necessarily need to report all your income since it can't be proved.\nIllegal immigrants know they can live very 'normal' lives as long as they don't break any laws other than immigration laws.\nIt seems to me you are the one that DOES NOT KNOW what you are talking about and are merely commenting on what is fed to you by alarmist media.\n\n**************\n\nI actually enjoy these friendly exchanges.\nI realized why we are talking about two different illegal immigrants.  You are talking about those that cross over illegally (sneak in the country) and I'm talking about those that came here on a visa (any kind) and overstayed.\nThe Social Security Administration used to provide SSN cards/numbers to people on temporary visas; they were stamped with a big 'Not for employment use'.  I don't have to tell you how easy those cards were to duplicate.  I even saw a used car salesman photocopy one, remove those words and photocopy again until he ended with a 'clean' copy before submitting the loan.\nOn the subject of taxes... during my college years I worked as a computer consultant, doing odd jobs that payed under $550 at a time, that way my 'employer' did not have to submit a 1099 for professional services.  I stayed under the radar and expensed every pencil, calculator, computer part, tool, etc. that I bought during those years.  Completely legal.\n\n**************\nDude... you had me at Hello.\nWell said.  I actually liked your latest update better; it didn't show a lingering anger.\nIn the words of Judge Chamberlain Haller (the late Fred Gwynne) in My Cousin Vinny; “that is a lucid, intelligent,
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Laws only apply to american taxpayers. they do not apply to illegal aliens.....I proved that point this weekend....I reported some illegals in my neighbor hood to the FBI....the FBi didn't show, which means obviously they don't care.....But i still gotta wear my seatbelt or else!!!>>>
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lets be honest  yeah the American citizens would work them but only the white lazy crackheads. They would work these jobs but not as good as illegals do because they know if they make a mistake in that specific job they can get fired and they can't afford that. They have kids in their countries. So they work hard to keep their employers happy. Do you really think a us citizen would tolerate cleaning shit, working 10 hours in the sun as a gardener. no because they're citizens and they have opportunities.Just Analise things. No one would do the jobs better than an immigrant.And you said it they wouldn't take shit from their employers. Right? So they would eventually get tired of cleaning shit and they would eventually find themselves quitting. Why haven't i seen citizens doing these jobs right now? They don't want to. They r lazy and most try to find easy jobs. Increase in the wages maybe but remember threes bitchy people that expect you to do the jobs right. No matter how much they pay these citizensthey wouldn't tolerate this.They can never do these jobs as good as illegals.if an illegal can find a job so can a citizen but threes so many unemployed because they don't give it as much time to look for a job that illegal aliens. Just face it the economy would slowly deteriorate.
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Thanks for asking this! You bring up the real issue, the real crisis surrounding millions of illegal aliens living in the USA. Fact is they do NOT contribute to our economy because they don't pay taxes. To make matters worse, they send quite a bit of the tax free money they make back to Mexico. Then to make matters really worse they use our hospitals for medical care because, that's right, in the ER no doctor will (or should) refuse to provide medical care based on the ability to pay. Hospital's are not allowed to ask whether you are legal or illegal. Going to the ER for anything is very expensive but since illegal aliens don't have insurance or a social security card or any form of ID that identifies them as a citizen of this country, they can't go see a regular family physician. Guess who pays the hospital bill?????? You guessed it! All of us taxpaying suckers. Don't even get me started on food stamps. Oh yeah, didn't you hear that some illegal aliens are getting food stamps. Did you also hear that some are getting housing assistance???? Did you know it is now considered taboo to ask about residency status??? How about our prisons? Do you have any idea how many illegal aliens are sitting in our prisons receiving medical care, 3 meals a day, clothing and clean sheets???? Yeah, we also pay for that. Oh and wait!!! don't forget the education of their children in our public schools. Who pays for that???? Oh yeah, that's right, the taxpayers. \n\nYou are absolutely right!!! This is not about race!!!! There is a far greater crisis at hand. There is no way the amount illegal aliens contribute by working (tax free) can even begin to scratch the surface of what they take from our economy. This is criminal! This is illegal! If they are illegal send them home!\n\nPlease teach us a lesson! Go home, we will learn how to pick our own vegetables and do our own laundry!
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I don't know how an illegal can do that! It's the ones who come here with bags of cash, and buy a house and a car and get a business that freak me out. Are these people checked out or what? I've lived here all my life, worked hard and all I own Is a house and an old car.....Got to be something wrong!
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Anyone who works in the united states is required to pay income tax.\nPeople who do not have social security numbers obtain an ITIN individual tax identification number in order to file tax returns.\nFor example an illegal immigrant who makes up a social security number goes to work, the employer deducts all applicable taxes and at the end of the year provides worker with a W-2, the worker goes to a tax preparer and legally obtains an ITIN and legally files taxes, however they are not eligible for Medicare so the US gov't stays with that money.\nPart 2\nthere are tax laws for taking or bringing too much money, not income tax another tax.
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Some do pay taxes through stolen social security numbers, and IDs.  And they do get social services using fake IDs. \n\nMost school systems practice "Don't ask, Don't tell", so illegals do get free education funded by taxpayers. \n\nInternal Revenue Service (IRS) does issued TIN (indiv. taxpayer ID number) to illegal aliens, so they can pay taxes.