this happened to me & i posted about this and was called names and illegals cant get ss cards\n\n\nThey were using Social Security numbers of people that were dead, of children or just different individuals that did not work at IFCO," Immigration and Customs agency chief Julie Myers told CNN.\n\n"The Social Security Administration had written IFCO over 13 times and told them, 'Listen, You have a problem. You have over a thousand employees that have faulty Social Security numbers. And we consider that to be a big problem.' And IFCO did not do anything about it," Myers said.\n\nMyers said a yearlong investigation revealed that IFCO managers had induced illegal immigrants to work there, telling some of them to doctor W-2 tax forms or saying that they did not need to fill out any documentation at all.\n\nMyers and Suddaby will join Chertoff for Thursday's announcement.\n\nImmigration legislation pending in Congress would increase penalties for companies that employ illegal immigrants.
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well i read it poncho and no  where in there did it say they were using the fake or children's ss card  to pay taxes maybe it was just cover that scum companies a** and even if they were paying taxes the fact is the  majority doesn't. so your  defense of more law breaking using a little kids SS cards is  against the law  and sick \n\nwe have another one bob tell her what shes won \n\nhow about a trip to ole mec eeco \nwhere you will dine on goat and law breaking goes on everyday enjoy\n\n\n\nto the post below yeah dead people all over are losing their important documents lol\n\n\nand shes  IRRESPONSIBLE lmao wtf so that explains it people we are  irresponsible  for all the illegals using our children's and  our dearly departed SS numbers  gee thanks for clearing that up  ITS OUR FAULT   hello anyone home up stairs  \n\ntell her what shes won bob how about a all expense trip to ole mec eeco  for her and her whole family where she will be oppressed but she will get to wave that flag proudly
543285
It is against the law when people try to avoid reporting their income and not paying taxes as they should. And don't say as you supposedly do. It is a fact that there are undocumented workers who get paid under the table.
222176
well, I think this goes to two different things...\nA. multiple people may use one SS# \nB. the businesses may not be operating legally and paying taxes
211428
Yeah, but they have to eat. If they can't get a better job because they don't have the papers then how can you say no to a job that exploits you but gives you enough to at least eat?\n\nA friend of mine works at a country club. She just started and she's already thinking of quiting. Her boss is sexually harassing her. She's gonna sue his ass and is trying to get the other girls who work with her and who have received the same treatment to testify. The problem is nobody wants to because they are illegal and will get deported if they do. They stay there because they don't have any other job to go and they have to send the money and help their family's back home. \n\nThis kind of thing makes me very sad and angry but that's just how life is. Just be thankful you will never have to be in their shoes, or at least pray that you don't.
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Do some research!\n\nLess than 1/10th of 1% of illegal immigrants pay taxes.\n\nThe Social Security Card (fake) only enables them to be employed. \n\nYes, to the employer, they claim many "exemptions" - so they have less taken out of their paycheck.\n\nThey learn all about this from those who give them the fake cards.\n\nBut most, simply get "cash" payment from unscrupulous employers, who don't want to pay "matching funds." Same thing holds true for those who "sub-contract" and give them a form 1099 at the end of the year. The 1099 is ignored by the so-called sub-contractor, and the employer if later contacted by IRS, holds up a paper showing a sub-contract agreement. (also bogus). \n\nDoubt seriously many employers who go the sub-contract route, even have to pony up to the IRS.
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It's the old story, there are lies, damned lies and statistics. Why do you think the Bush administation spouts an endless list of numbers when they are asked a substantive question?\n\nNo, AFDC and food stamps are not the same. No, SSI is not the same as Social Security.\n\nAnd people forget that many of these "illegal immigrants" pay taxes from which they actually will never get any benefit, a gift to the rest of us who benefit from their money.\n\nWhat intrigues me most is that the politicians keep saying there are fewer people paying into Social Security than are being paid by Social Security. If we let in all the immigrants, wouldn't that problem be solved?.
254917
They are not all "sponges".It is wrong to use someone else's ss#.As long as they are here to work,I say let them stay.
150026
it is about time that there was a crack down...ruining children's credit...without ss card you can't get a job or get married. thank you for showing this.
377867
Absolutely not. This company was making an effort to abide by federal laws. Of course their are people who say that it is discriminatory, but they are the same people who are breaking federal laws. Two months to find a solution to a S.S.N. problem is more than enough time. these people are illegal aliens and should be deported upon discovery.
331724
I feel like it's a slap in the face to every person who has immigrated here legally. What really frosts me is that this is also an amnesty for the employers who have enjoyed the unfair competitive advantage of hiring illegals over the past years. How can an honest business person stay in business when your competitor's payroll expenses are 50% less than yours?
575903
Obviously nobody likes identity theft,and equally obviously a great number of people who are bleeding hearts for the illegals turn a blind eye to the fact that a large number of them in fact DO use false papers and stolen identities ... so much for the poor people who only come here to get a better life ... I'd say, I'd have a better life too if I went around and stole other people's identity and ran up huge bills at other people's expense ...
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What most people fail to realize is that if there were no jobs to be had we would not have an illegal immigration problem. Our government goes after the aliens and not the employers who hire them, much the same as police going after prostitutes but not the johns. \n\nEmployers who hire illegally steal from the rest of the country. The employers are not contributing their half to Social Security. Social Security is not just for retirement, but also kids who have lost a  parent and for the disabled. By not paying their share, employers are helping to bankrupt Social Security. Employers are not paying workers compensation. In the event of a serious injury, the workers end up in emergency rooms and unable to pay. With no workers comp insurance, the hospital eats the bill which means that ultimately the tax payers pay for it. Furthermore, if there were no opportunites for work, people would not take the risk of immigrating without documtents. The workers are not paying income tax because the employers are not with holding it. Another way the employers are stealing from the general population.\n\nLet's go after the employers who are stealing from us by  not paying taxes and by creating a market that draws people here illegally. No person is an alien and no person is illegal. Actions are illegal. The actions of these employers are illegal and attention needs to be drawn to that!
529791
Yes they do use other peoples social security numbers. (everyone who is involved with this particular community knows this for a fact) otherwise none of them would be working at fast food joints and other places that require an SS number in order to work. Someone could be using your number right now, so get a credit report.
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You don't need to feel about it either way because it is not true. There is a program that allows LEGAL residents to enter the military which can help speed up the path to citizenship. Fair enough deal, enter the country legally and perform such a service to the country and they should be citizens. What you are talking about is the newest rumor out there because of the immigration debate. Recently they found a girl who had bought fake identity papers in LA and joined the military. Apparently she did quite well in her job. She was found out because the person who's identity was stolen figured this out after 2 1/2 years through the social security office. They would always be found out that way with taxes and such especially in the military. But the do gooders and those with an agenda are saying that she shouldn't be prosecuted as she served in the military. Well it's the same with all of the rest of the issue. The key words are NOT LEGAL. No if's ands or buts.
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What's unfair is that they do take medical benefits and WIC and they can buy houses. What upsets me is that I was born a citizen of the United States and when I was jobless I couldn't get unemployment benefits (the restaurant that I worked for closed down and I had a son to take care of and I couldn't afford a babysitter). Nor would my caseworker help me with my benefits. My son is the only one getting full benefits, but because of the HUGE Hispanic population that has benefits, a lot of the pediatricians stopped accepting his health care plan. When I go to the WIC office, it's crowded and I have to wait 2 hours just to be seen because of the illegal aliens. And they don't even bother to try learning English. The only reason why they get benefits is because when they work under the table they don't have to claim anything. Then they send the extra money to their relatives back in their country. I have nothing against residential aliens (those who have green cards and are here legally in this country). They worked hard to get here, and they make an effort to learn the language because they want to be here. A lot of people mistake me for being Hispanic when I'm not (Hawaiian-Filipino) but my boyfriend is, and one time I had a Mexican woman who got here illegally offer to pay my fiance $10,000 to marry her daughter to bring her here, knowing that we were engaged. Another thing, about being mistaken for Hispanic Decent I would get upset whenever someone would come to me and start speaking spanish. But anyways, I know a lot of illegal aliens and they work under the table, receive medical and health benefits, and can afford to buy a BMW, a house with a $1,500 a month mortgage, and buy brand name clothes and things, and I was born an  American citizen and I couldn't even get help from my own government. And another thing is that there is a lot of unemployment here too, and they wonder why. I don't know if anything I just said makes sense.
228975
Taxes never solves problems like this... What you have to do is make the EMPLOYERS pay... the companies that hire the illegals... should be not only be fined a stiff penalty up front...but then... they should be given an added penalty of having to pay much higher tax rate on their profits for another 5 years for breaking the law and hiring illegals.  Most illegals are paid CASH... and because of this... the company does not have to account for this cash going out... they do not have to pay withholding taxes on that cash and do not have to carry insurance for the workers... or pay for unemployment compensations coverage... Not only do companies get CHEAP LABORERS... the benefit by not having the overhead of costs for laborers on records... that they don't have to follow the state and federal governments tax and employment rules and regulations ... IT IS THE COMPANIES... that give the laborers jobs... if they were prevented and penalized for hiring illegals... there would be no illegals coming over the border... WE are putting the emphesis on the wrong area... it should be on the COMPANIES... No paychecks... no medical insurance costs for workers... no unemployment compensations payments to the government... no withholding taxes... no social security deductions in the pay... when it is cash... this is the benefit to the companies... CHEAP hourly wage and that is all... SO... who benefits???? And a federal government that is for the corporation will not solve the problem by penalizing corporations' profit making abilities... But I do agree... we DO NEED a STRONG BORDER... and to deport the illegals back to Mexico... If Mexico legalizes drugs... that will be a BIG help as Mexico will get a lot of "illegal immigrants" who come from the US into Mexico... and they will then have the same problem... SO GO MEXICO... legalize drugs!!!
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This whole issue makes no sense to me.\n\nNow my info is based on my dealings with the construction world, which as you know employs alot of immigrants from south of the border. Now I'm not naive and I know a good many of these so called *legal* immigrants use fake socials and names to get jobs and are in actuality illegal immigrants. Our government is not stupid either but you don't see anybody going to major construction sites and doing immigration status checks now do you? Shutting down major construction projects is not going to win anybody in government very many votes now is it?\n\nIts all politics people. If its currently popular to harass immigrants the government will do so, if its not they turn a blind eye to the issue. Whatever it takes to get themselves re-elected.\n\nNow as to why this is viewed as a huge problem, I just don't see it. \n\nFirst of all the *undermining the economy* statements I see.\n\nEven the truly illegal immigrants pay taxes on the food they eat, they purchase items and pay sales tax, they pay rent, buy gasoline and cigs with high taxes on them, pay utilities, pay tolls, pay insurance, buy automobiles and in cases where they use fake IDs and socials, pay all the applicable payroll related taxes. (and in most cases overpay, you don't think they file returns at the end of the year do you?)\n\nSecondly *they work for extra low wages* The people I know in construction pay industry standard or better wages for their immigrant workers. If anything I hear complaints about how much they have to shell out, usually followed by statements praising the quality of work they get in return.\n\nThirdly *they are taking jobs from hardworking Americans* Honestly, no they aren't. The work they do in construction, while requiring some skill, is mostly back-breaking hard labor. This type of job is considered *beneath* the majority of Americans and lets face it, selling drugs is much easier and while you might be risking a stint of 3 hots and a cot atleast you won't be breaking a sweat! \n\nFourthly, they work, that's more then I can say for some Americans I know. They don't get food stamps, welfare, Medicaid, medicare, social security, or unemployment, they can't, in most cases, afford to have the government look that closely at their status so they get up every morning and go to work!\n\nFifthly, have any of you looked at what it takes to get a green card? Its not a matter of filling out a few forms. There are 3 ways to become a legal immigrant. Sponsorship by an employer, who must prove he/she can't hire anybody else for the job (and even if its true, most employers can't be bothered by all the paperwork) this method also requires the immigrant to hire a lawyer, takes about a year and reams of paperwork (hence the need for a lawyer). Secondly the lottery....yes our government holds a lottery for immigrants who have the equivalent of a HS education to *win* legal status. They give away 50,000 green cards a year to around 8 million lottery applicants. If you don't believe me look up Green Card Lottery. Funny position for a government who currently wants to crack down on illegal immigrants to take don't you think? Enter our lottery and win a chance to live in America! I'm sorry but that seems just alittle cheesy to me. And thirdly marriage to a US citizen. Its just not as simple as people seem to think.\n\nNow I know that there are probally sweat shops employing immigrants at below minimum wage but again which one of you would want that job anyway? Heck, most of the people that I know would rather starve then work at a McDonalds, much less a sweat shop. Besides, if companies want to produce items at  sweat shop wages all they have to do is relocate their factories outside the US...no wait, umm, they are already doing that so again what is the problem?\n\nI'd much rather keep the money here wouldn't you? And as far as the premise that they send money hom