The intelligence of the entire world indicated that there were WMD's in Iraq.  There is a difference between lying and acting on bad intelligence.
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Yes, You are so right. I hope people will read this.............\nhttp://www.doctor-horsefeathers.com/archives/000296.php
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yeh, people inherantly bow down to job titles. i used to think clinton was the clearest case of how gullible humans really are. but now theres bush & rumsy, damn. humans are shockingly stupid. no wonder we still fall for religions. no matter what they say, we soak it up as if it were based in some sort of logic. a gracious estimate of those that see somewhat clearly is about 10% of the worlds' population. the rest are so far gone with some kinda b grade movie brainwashing or diminished capacity. its like im living in 'invasion of the body snatchers'. the story was that saddam was a threat to everyone & had no allies. so who'd he sell his weapons to?
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He wasn't, but as I said on an earlier question that cost me 10pts.,all Americans are liars so you can say whatever you want and don't have to prove it.The only WMD i know of works at the white house.
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For the best review of what other intelligence agencies though about Iraq having WMD, as well to see all the comments that Democrats made regarding Iraq’s WMD program, read the article “Who is Lying About Iraq”, byt By Norman Podhoretz\nCommentaryMagazine.com | November 11, 2005. Here are two points, supported by quotes from Podhoretz’s article.\n\n1: No major nation disagreed with the pre-war intelligence that Iraq had WMD. \n“In the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) of 2002, where their collective views were summarized, one of the conclusions offered with “high confidence” was that Iraq is continuing, and in some areas expanding its chemical, biological, nuclear, and missile programs contrary to UN resolutions. The intelligence agencies of Britain, Germany, Russia, China, Israel, and—yes—France all agreed with this judgment.”\n\n2.The view that Iraq has WMD was widely held by the Clinton Administration, and prior to Bush’s presidency, many leading Democrats were pushing for action against Iraq.\n\nHere is his Secretary of State Madeline Albright, also speaking in 1998:\n\n“Iraq is a long way from [the USA], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risk that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”\n\nHere is Sandy Berger, Clinton’s National Security Adviser, who chimed in at the same time with this flat-out assertion about Saddam:\n\n“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”\nSenator Hillary Rodham Clinton speaking in October 2002:\n\n“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical- and biological-weapons stock, his missile-delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaeda members.”\n\nFinally, Clinton’s Secretary of Defense, William Cohen, was so sure Saddam had stockpiles of WMD that he remained “absolutely convinced” of it even after our failure to find them in the wake of the invasion in March 2003.\n\nThe best in the intelligence community were all convinced that Saddam had WMD.  Even Saddam was convinced he had WMD, since it has been discovered since the war that his own intelligence people were misleading him about the state of their programs.  \nBush went to the UN with all this information, yet the UN is incapable of dealing with famine in 3rd world countries, never mind issues of war.   It was not the UN that was targeted by Saddam’s regime, and it was not the UN that had the responsibility of keeping the United States safe.  We won the war in record time, and now are fighting an insurgency that is mostly fueled by Al Qaeda fighters.  The vast majority of attacts in Iraq are carried out by foreigners.  This is supported by the recent arrests in Spain of people recruiting for the Insurgency.  This means that the war against Terrorism is very real in Iraq right now.  It also means that terrorists who would be trying to blow American’s up at home, are focused elsewhere.  That alone is a very good thing. \n\nI am tired of people who supported the war for years, now opposing it so they can try to win more votes.   Many of my friends have fought, and been injured, in Iraq.  Not one of them believes we should not have gone to war, and not one thinks we should pull out now.
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The story has been reported on various news media. The problem is that the version of story that Fox "news" is running isn't the whole truth. The WMD we went to war for have not been found. We did not go to war to find decades-old chemical weapons that had been buried since the Iran-Iraq War. We were looking for WMD proving an ongoing weapons capability that could pose a threat to world peace, not these aging remnants. President Bush has already accepted the findings in the Duelfer Report dismissing these weapons as irrelevant. (See link below)\n\nMore importantly, we already knew about those weapons and turned the other cheek when they were originally produced. Google "Rumsfeld" "Reagan" and "Saddam Hussein" and you'll learn all about the U.S. support of the Iraqi ruler during the Iran-Iraq War, when we supported one monster (Hussein) in the hopes of defeating another (Khomeini). We knew at that time that Saddam Hussein was using chemical weapons against his enemies and his own people, but we did nothing about it. Or more accurately, we signed a piece of paper saying we disapproved of his use of chemical agents, but we continued cutting deals with him because he was fighting a common enemy. We even sold him some of the chemicals that he used to construct these weapons because he seemed like the lesser of two evils at the time. Ironically, we were therefore partly responsible for creating the monster that he is today.\n\nAs a result, the real reason why the WMD story isn't any bigger is because the Republicans want it just big enough for their conservative supporters to hear it and say to themselves, "They found WMD!" but not so loud that people actually start asking questions about where and how these chemical weapons were manufacture or, more importantly, about who supplied Iraq with the raw materials to make them. That would make Reagan, Rumsefeld, and by extension, the Republican party as a whole look like hypocrites. So it's best to keep the story just large enough for Fox news addicts but not so large that the rest of the world hears about it.\n\nIncidentally, I don't suppose you remember what the liberal response was when Bush originally announced his intention to break international law in order to attack a sovereign nation, claiming that  we "knew" Iraq had WMD? One of the most quoted responses at that time was, "Of course we knew he has WMD! We sold them to him!!!" \n\nOnce again, if you people had only been listening to the liberals in the first place, you'd be so much farther ahead in the game.
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I am troubled by this as well.  I just turned on the talk-radio station and they said it on the news on there (that chemical weapons were found).  But I didn't see it on tv news.  I am confused about what was really found and why it isn't being reported.  \n\nIt makes me angry that only bad news is reported, not the good news that shows how hard our troops are working over there.
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The issue is, as it has been all along, Iraq posed no threat to the U.S.  Most countries (including the U.S.) have WMD's but should we go around invading and destroying them all just because they have them?  Doesn't that make us as bad as they are?  What about North Korea?  They have the capability to really do some damage if they so desire.  Bush is an embarassment to the U.S. and the world.  Let's just hope we can ALL survive the remainder of his presidency and get our troops home.
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Yeah, Saddam used WMDs IN THE 80'S. Fair enough. Bad guy. But did he actually have WMDs that he could actually use in 2003? No way. They were, even by Santorum's account degraded at that time.
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If you had a bully that was going to kick your butt.Then he hit you and it feels like being hit with a wet noodle.How would that make you feel?That's what happened in Iraq.There were so many people in the Iraq government trying to convince the other Islamic countries that they were the strongest,that they didn't know where thew truth was.I have known someone that had the same problem, never knowing where one lie starts and the next one stops.We(the World)were all lied to by Saddam's people.That's all the information we(the World)had to go on, think aboout that.
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I will not apologise.  He said there were WMD's based on the fact that he knew where they would be. It's been two years so if he does find them it's more likely that the US planted them there!  Bush has lost all credibility on Iraq.
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Everyone believed that he had WMD. They couldn't find them, but that doesn't prove that he didn't have them. So, after 9&#92;11 if the Dems, Republicans, British, other Arabs, Saddam's own generals .......believed that he had wmd and Bush did nothing, what would be said about him if something did happen? \nI think that he did what he believed was right at the time and I would rather see him err on the side of caution rather than trust Saddam or the UN to handle the situation (which they didn't). \nNow it's this Bush lied crap, which is really old. \nCongress voted for this and now the political cowards on both sides want to re-write history.
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Could be lazyness or lack of resources to check all the documents. The idea being that other people would check them out. Maybe they thought if dangerous plans from Saddam Hussein had to be pulled off the web site, it would prove they were right. Never mind it could be dangerous and pre-1991 WMD evidence doesn't count for complaints about  NOT finding WMD after this war.
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i agree with you on both points.  unfortunately in the last several days this same WMD question keeps coming up but the liberals continue to refuse acknowledgement that it proves anything.  They argue that they were non-functional, that they weree planted, that it's a lie...anything but that the president told the truth or acted prudently.  They never will.  These people aren't concerned with truth, they only care about their agenda and will beat this thing to death.  Half are brainwashed nitwits the others are outright radical communist or islamist extremists bent on seeing this country defeated.\n\nJust some info for those bringing up sarin gas degrading...do some research..i mean research not wikipedia.  When exposed to air or water sarin will degrade within a matter of weeks.  In earlier shells saddam had a problem stockpiling shells because they would degrade, therefore he started using a binary projectile. These rounds are compartmentalized having sarin contained isolated from the other component which was isopropyl alcohol.  the two were mixed when the round was fired.  THESE DO NOT DEGRADE!!  GET IT?\n\nlol...you know...the closer you get to proving something that they made such a big deal out of the more these bushbashers back away and then say the issue isn't important anyway.  Why?...because as I've said..they DON"T CARE ABOUT TRUTH only their agenda.\n\nI'll tell you this much zenkitty27;  I've listened to the president speak quite often and spontaneously without notes and what he has had to say is a lot more substantive and coherent than most of your posts.  So what have YOU been smoking?
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The world is already mad about the war on terror.  What we ever accomplished during Bush Administration is making the world a less safe place to live in.  We lost the good diplomatic relations we had with other nations during Clinton's term.  All we have thrive for are being destroy by the war.  We refuse to listen to our allies and now they are mad at us.  We build UN to resovle world issue and keep peace and we put it aside and go on with our own decision.  The world is not democratic.
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Good question! Twin Towers (Saddam WAS linked to these MURDERS of innocent people when they discovered Al Quida training camps in Iraq near the Iranian borders); how many violations of the UN resolutions? So many I can't remember, but more then 12 that I know of; reports of WMD's, which whether you believe it or not, that had to be answered by force since the UN is a gutless piece of work, so corrupt that the French and Russians were making millions off the humane efforts of the United States who nearly funded all the monies for the "Food Program". Of course these funds were never used by Saddam to feed his people, he was to busy killling them by the hundreds of thousands while French politicians were getting millions. Hello, anyone home yet! Crimes of humanity not unlike Hitler. Remember him..and you know what, Hitler never  bombed the US but we still took him out. Does anyone ever ask WHY? Oh ya, the Palestinians and the President of Iran and Saddam. Hitler was their HERO...but he was an infidel too...go figure. Guess it comes down to madness. Even Saddam's generals thought he had WMD's because that is what Saddam wanted everyone to believe. Well, he got his wish...we believed him. I Wish he had died in that hole but my wish didnt come true.Women raped, children killed, wifes ravaged in front of their families for the pleasures of sons of Saddam, mass burials of innocent Iraqis who did not like their President (what a joke, president); using WMD to kill 300,000 Kurds; These are some of the reasons we are in IRAQ and if the damn politicians would let the military act like the military then this war would be over. If we entered WWII like this, we would be speaking German or Japanese. Truman was right, the US should never enter a war without using all it's might and power to defeat the enermy in a short, unrelenting manner and then return home. Unfortunately we have a bunch of weak politicians in office and a nation of sheep that follow their good shepards right into the gates of hell. Wake up America, the world is not what it used to be and Muslims want us all dead. Got it now.
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http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23059\n\nhow did we get ripped off?  read the entire article.  some is degraded but binary sarin shells don't degrade.   bottom line is it doesn't matter whether the stuff is useful today, it proves that in fact Bush DID NOT LIE about WMD's and Saddam obviously was being deceptive with inspectors by burying at least what has been found and certainly there is more.  There is strong evidence that much was moved to Syria also.
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Decider made me laugh and cry at the same time.\n\nWASHINGTON — The United States has found 500 chemical weapons in Iraq since 2003, and more weapons of mass destruction are likely to be uncovered, two Republican lawmakers said Wednesday.\n\nApparently, the president thought it was a good idea to hide this information from us for 3 years?