you all claim to want "physical" proof of the living God. however....do you not accept the existance of a thought??? or an ego??? or a conscience???? or heat???? i could go on and on??? you can see none of those things physically....and yet you all accept that they are real. i don't want to frightne you..but you have faith that those things exist...because you none of you can physically prove any of them..yet we all know they are real.  is this the "logical" argument you have been waiting for???? i did not get biblical
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Umm dude, I'm not even an athiest, but you can prove that some of these things exist with other senses.  You can feel heat and measure thoughts with scientific equipment.  Ego and conscience are psycho-cultural constructs that change over time and around the world, so they are an inapplicable comparison unless you're talking about how people around the world and at different times will have different ideas about god.  And I don't think that is what you're talking about.\n\nI would hazard to guess that athiests are waiting for a logical arguement that actually uses logic, appropriate comparisons, and/or hard evidence.  It sounds like what you're saying is that since there are some things that are more theorhetical then proveable it proves that anything exits, and that doesn't make any sense.
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Now stop J Man, you're not looking at life from a "logical" view. Obviously those crazy Christians (like me) have got you brainwashed! The God we love and adore, why, we need to give all that up, because some dude on Yahoo showed me the error of my ways.
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Actually, all that stuff is too confusing for the average Joe to consider. I think it actually takes more faith to believe all that stuff than it does to believe in creation. Of course, that's just MY take on the whole matter. It's almost like believing a junk yard blew up one day, then came back together to form a cadillac. It's just too much to believe for me. <*)))><
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I totally know what you mean. I used to think about that all the time, but I would just exhaust myself. I think the only sure thing we know is that we know nothing. I am a bit of an agnostic, but certainly don't think that everything just happened by chance. Was there ever nothing? If so how did we ever get something? If scientist say there is an end to the universe, what is it like a wall? Plexi Glass that you just bounce of of? Or is it like Pacman where you just pop out on the other side? There is so much that is just unexplainable in t his world. I am just glad to be a part of it. I have pretty much given up on trying to figure it all out. While I am in no hurry to die, I am somewhat excited at the possibilty of everything being answered once I go. Good luck in your search for answers. We need the Teacher's Edition of the bible, one with all the answers in the margins( I wonder how much that would go for on eBay?)
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i dunno i've ran into some people on here like that but that's true how could you explain anything. science, no science is something people use i think to jump away from the fact that god does exsist whether they like it or not. i've tried to make people beleive in god but some don't. so all you can do is beleive pray for those people. HE IS OUR SAVIOR SO WORSHIP HIM! GOD BLESS.
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IF you truly are NOT A BELIEVER... then why on Earth would you even bother to reason out with someone who may or may not be able to FULLY EXPLAIN things to you in the first place?? Like, what's the big deal anyway, right?\n\nHowever, I suggest that if you are CURIOUS enough to know or to find out, it is best that you ask THOSE who have the knowledge and capacity to do so personally rather than in an open forum since, by asking it HERE, I'll bet that you'll get even much MORE CONFUSED than ever before with the myriad answers you'll get from all three sides of the coin.\n\nKnow what I mean?
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I find it funny that people atomatically assume that since a thing does not exist within the scope of their personal experience, it must be a delusion, hallucination, or short-comming fo a sort on the part of another.\n\nI speak to God nearly daily.  He speaks to me.  He may not use an audible voice, but I recognize it when he speaks.  Does that make me a nut case?  I do the best job I know how to live out a life worthy of the sacrifice that Jesus made.  I know I fall short way to often, but my hearts desire is to fulfill the expectation he has for me.  What part of this threatens you?  And what justification have I offered any of you to call me delusional, tweaked out, dazed, crazed or sedated?  Or is it simply you have made up your mind about all Christ followers based entirely on the experience you had with a few?\n\nI find it funny in a really sad way that there are so many trolling the religion and spirituality section of Y!A simply to stir the pot and verbally harass or defy those with beliefs in God.  I recommend you start your own section.  You can Call it "Infallible Logic and Answers to Every Question You May Have From Those Who Know Everything."\nYou can even set criteria preventing any nut jobs with delusional tendencies and hallucinations from joining.\n\nOr in short, I'd rather be tweaked out over the Great News of Jesus Christ than seeking satisfaction by bashing people who seem to have something I want but can't find.
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Hmmm. Hi. Perhaps my perception on things hasn't been explained clearly enough. I apologize for that. Here is, in short, what I do and don't believe:\n\nThere is no such thing as a god. To me, the concept of the existence of a deity (besides being unproved and absurd) is just that- a concept. And a misleading one, at that. To me, it's a lie.\n\nI do not worship the christian devil. Hell, I do not even believe in it! To me, Satan is a reflection of humanity. You are your own god, and are free to accept it or not. Satan is not an entity, it's a force, it's in us. It's our vital force.\n\nHave fun, and be tolerant.\n\nBy the way, when I say Satan's spawn, it doesn't mean I believe I am the child of your devil, it means I am the Satan, as it is in me. It's sometimes also meant to shock. Depends.\n\nHappy, now?
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I for one can not prove that when I die there will be no afterlife, but yes after reviewing all the evidence I see none for God.  \n\nWhy do I exist?  I don't know, who cares. \n\nFor me I know that I am alive and what makes me happy while I am.\n\nI have a child at home who is 3.  I love him and he loves me. I have a wife (shes a Jesus believer) and I love her and she loves me.\n\nSo that is what keeps me going, my family.\n\nIn terms of God, I have asked for God to make himself real to me. If Jesus can do this for Thomas in the Bible, surely he can do the same for me.
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Youre right, you cant prove it. But thats fine for most people, cause if you keep telling yourself thats something exist, its gonna exist. So you dont need a proof. If you keep telling yourself that theres God, God will exist. If you dont, then he wont. It simple. And about the Bible, I could write a book right now about a new God, bury it in the earth and then about 1000 years later someone's gonna find it, and there will be a new religion, and everybody will believe in my God. You know what im saying? So you cant prove anything, its just whether believe in it or not. If you do you'll see it.
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You were obviously being sarcastic when you said you would pray for them. Of course,religious people don't appreciate\nthe irony of such statements and you obviously confused a lot of them.\n\n That being said,as an agnostic who tends toward atheism I\ncan appreciate your viewpoint. The only reason I'm not simply an atheist is that there's not any more evidence to support your theory than that of a Christian. As well,I do\nbelieve the world and the universe are far more complex than\nany of us can guess at this time.\n In a world where there IS evidence pointing to the possibility of reincarnation, as well as paranormal experts\nusing scientific methods to investigate reported hauntings,\ncan the existence of God really be ruled out so definately?\nMaybe your inner conscious is just your personal belief system at work. Who can really say for sure what the Reality\nreally is?\n\n Still,I can't bring myself to believe in a Biblical God who\ncreated the universe,is all-powerful yet knows all our names\nas well as where the smallest sparrow has fallen. It does sound like a fairy tale.
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Wow:  Thanks for the info about the DNA.  For those readers that wondered how the world comes into being without God creating what He alone is able and willing, such info as the DNA, let alone the rest of the whole complex of Created mass and masterpieces, it rests on this issue.  You see, you think, and you understand.  OR you see, and refuse to see, you think and you refuse to think, and you refuse to understand.  Part of that matter of Free choice.  The simple fact is, what you choose to believe is also part of the gift you were given in Creation.  You believe or not, and amazing, it gives you a part in the rest of the community.  There are adequate numbers of unbelievers, that will all affirm your faithlessness, just as there are adequate numbers of believers who will affirm your believe in pagan cult, just as there are adequate numbers of believers in Islam, or Christianity or any other form religion.  Numbers however, doesnt affirm factuallity.  Flat world theorists believe it.  Round world hanging in space believe it.  Sun circling the earth believers affirm it, as do earth circling the sun believers affirm their bit of observation.  \n   Did Noach go searching for the animals?  No, the Text says, according to Moses, affirming that GOd instructed him to write, that God caused the animals to come to the ark.  Noachs job was to build it and stock it with grain and grass, as all the animals would eat vegetarian while aboard, including Noach and family.  Is that possible?  Depends on how you view and believe.  Impossible for those who refuse to believe that GOD was involved.  Possible for those that choose to believe in such miracle process or natural process.   It is all amazing, no matter what you believe.  If you believe God created, thats amazing.  From my point of view thats acceptable.  What would be more amazing is to try to figure out how all this world in all its complexity came into being without a Creator God, since it is obviously more complex than any human can contrive.  Heck,,,we cant even create a blade of grass from nothing, let alone a human eye..or the rest of a human being.\n   The story of the group of scientists who were all working on a grand assignment, to duplicate life...and one day they all agreed, they had done it.  Accomplished the grand impossible,  they had developed a life form in a petri dish.   Eureka they shouted...we did it.  We dont need GOD any more.   THEN GOD SAID :  Now, try it without anything:  No dirt, no fire, no water, no air and no petri dish.
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The request for evidence depends in the assertion being made by someone else.\n\nI wouldn't bother asking for evidence for a god like that of Spinoza or Don S (only god can in this case), I do not expect to get any evidence for such beings. If someone believes god can be only known through faith, I wouldn't ask for evidence either.\n\nNow, there are assertions that deserve being questioned. Once someone proposed that there is a "dimension of light" where god lives. Wouldn't you like to know what evidence there is to make such assertion? I can accept someone believes this through "faith", but if someone insists there is a "logical conclusion" to determine its existence, I'd ask for it. If someone had the evidence, I'd like to give it a try.\n\nI could give you other examples, but this is enough, it's all about the specific assertion.\n\nSo, I'd only ask for proof depending it what is being proposed. Even though I have to point out that, usually, I'm here to share my point of views and not to ask for proof of anything.\n\nI've got e-mails telling me I'll burn in hell... And their evidence is? o.0
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Dude, I don't know where you get your views, but they are not a reflection of God as revealed in the Holy Bible.  Have you ever read it?  Ever had a serious discussion with real people who have also studied it and could have dismissed it all as bunk, but instead they "bet the farm", their lives, reputations, livelihoods on it.  Talk to some real Christians in person.  Anonymity on a yahoo answers forum is not going to get you the real answers you're seeking.
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OK so not every one See's the world the same as you people have different opinions on how we got here..I don't care one way or another If it was go or and alien race started a science experiment..all I know is we are here and until I see physical proof from either I'm just here..and no the bible a book written by men does not count unless I see one glow with the inner light of your god.
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what real proof do we have of anything? Really, how do we know for sure about the bible or anything else without actually seeing it for ourselves? That's what faith is for in my opinion.
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It's not a fair question. Say I was to tell you that I have a 'purple horned snorkstack' in my backyard.\nWould you believe me? No, of course not, only the terminally stupid would believe such an outlandish thing without proof.\nSame thing here.\nWe do not and will not believe in a magic sky-pixie until we have proof. Or at least some sort of credible evidence.\nIt is up to YOU to provide the proof. Not the other way around.\nThat is elementary logic.