Why did the Catholic Church look away during the Holocaust? Or should i stop asking What the church can do for me? And ask what can i do for the church?
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History is currently being distorted by the millions of Christians who lie to have us believe that the Holocaust was not a Christian deed.  Through subterfuge and concealment, many of today’s Church leaders and faithful Christians have camouflaged the Christianity of Adolf Hitler and have attempted to mark him an atheist, a pagan cult worshipper, or a false Christian in order to place his misdeeds on those with out Jesus.  However, from the earliest formation of the Nazi party and throughout the period of conquest and growth, Hitler expressed his Christian support to the German citizenry and soldiers. Those who would make Hitler an atheist should turn their eyes to history books before they address their pews and chat rooms.\n\n    Considering that Christianity has thus far been incapable of producing an unbiased, educated follower which speaks the truth, (I haven’t encountered any), I have been forced to dispel the myth by writing this essay.  It is not until I bring up his speeches, my personal info on the Nazi regime and their tactics that a Christian will begin to question what their clergy told them. (I am the offspring of a German soldier.  My Opa served under Hitler in WW2 and my father was raised during the time of the Nazi regime.  This is important information to take into consideration for I am privy to some info that most Americans do not know.  It is common for American media and education institutions to lie to their citizens concerning Nazi Germany.)  So, in presenting this information I must break it into four parts: 1) Facts about Hitler and his involvement with the Church.  2) How the Church was the catalyst for anti- Semitism.  3) Facts concerning how the Nazi regime drilled these beliefs into Germanic society.  4) Quotes Hitler made which prove he had a disdain for atheism/occultism, upheld his Christian faith, and hated Jews due to his Christianity.\n\nHitler’s involvement with the Church:\n\na) Hitler was baptized as Roman Catholic during infancy in Austria.\n\nb) As Hitler approached boyhood he attended a monastery school.  (On his way to school young Adolf daily observed a stone arch which was carved with the monastery’s coat of arms bearing a swastika.)\n\nc) Hitler was a communicant and an altar boy in the Catholic Church.\n\nd) As a young man he was confirmed as a “soldier of Christ.”  His most ardent goal at the time was to become a priest.  Hitler writes of his love for the church and clergy: “I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals.  As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.”  -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)\n\ne) Hitler was NEVER excommunicated nor condemned by his church.  Matter of fact the Church felt he was JUST and “avenging for God” in attacking the Jews for they deemed the Semites the killers of Jesus.\n\nf) Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were given VETO power over whom the pope could appoint as a bishop in Germany, Spain and Italy.  In turn they surtaxed the Catholics and gave the money to the Vatican.  Hitler wrote a speech in which he talks about this alliance, this is an excerpt: “The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church.  This treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is hostile to religion is a lie.”  Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to the Nazi Party\n\ng) Hitler worked CLOSELY with Pope Pius in converting Germanic society and supporting the church.  The Church absorbed Nazi ideals and preached them as part of their sermons in turn Hitler placed Catholic teachings in public education.  This photo depicts Hitler with Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, the papal nuncio in Berlin.  It was taken On April 20, 1939, when Orsenigo celebrated Hitle
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i ve been asking this for so long. thank god i am not alone. i am so sick of this anti-catholic bs that has no validity whatsoever.\n\nyou would expect this kind of garbage from the secular world, but i have no idea what these protestants are thinking sometimes.\n\nhere's an idea protestants...why don't you actually learn about the catholic church first. as opposed to just blurting out a bunch of nonsense like we worship mary, and the pope ,etc.  give me a break already. still goin with those arguments?? don't even waste my time then.
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The holocaust could have been averted if more people had spoken out and had united against the Nazis.  The allies could have bombed even one of the railroad tracks to the camps.  Those who knew what was going on did nothing.  They allowed the atrocities to continue.\n\nThe same thing is happening today, on *our* watch in Darfur, Sudan.  What are your doing about it?  Are you speaking out against the first genocide of the 21st century?  Write your legislators.  Demand that the U.S. use diplomacy to place U.N. troops in Sudan!!!\n\n“In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.”\nMartin Luther King, Jr.. Baptist minister who led the civil-rights movement in the US, 1929-1968.\n.
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why do Palisteneans kill jews?\nwhy do some muslims hate christians and jews?\nwhy does america distrust muslims?\nwhy did they fight the Crusades?\nwhy do Muslims forbid killing, but will kill any muslin who tries to leave the religion and become a christian --- and nobody has a problem with this in the US?\nwhy does slavery still exist in the world?\nwhy do we go to war?\nwhy do we spend more on warfare than medicine?\nwhy does the US ignore the plight of many africans?\nwhy are there 2 Koreas when there used to be one?\nwhy is the dali lama no longer in Tibet?\nwhy do 60%+ of US marriages end in divorce?\nwhy does a civilized country like the US have the death penalty when uncivilized countries believe it is immoral?\nwhy did so many catholic priests hurt children?\nwhy does Israel have nuclear weapons but nobody wants to talk about it, but we may have to go to another war because North Korea and Iran also want nuclear weapons?\nDoes any non muslim really understand the muslim people?\nwhy do we have secret prisons?\nWhy is America hated by more people than hate Russia --- or North Korea --- or Iran ---- or just about any other country?\nAnd finally, why are you so uneasy about talking about slavery and the Civil War - events that shaped this country?
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That is your decision. I'm sorry to hear you felt brainwashed at your church - I've been to some of those. I'm Catholic, and for a time I wandered to other churches, 'bible-believing' churches with charismatic ministers who, after a service, would order me to leave "the romish lies" or some bigoted thoughts like that. I like Catholic Mass, there's the connection to Christ, there's the connection to the community, there's the worship and the Word. \n\nGo wherever you are fed. If you find yourself hungry, come to the table.
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HAIL HITLER!!! I knew you were a Fascist. What's next killing the Pagans, the Devil Worshipers, the Unchristian and the Judeo Christians? WOW you must have big balls to suggest such a thing. I hope you don't run for office or there may be a lynching. I have one question for you? With all this hate, do you really think your name is your Gods Book?\n\nBright Blessings to all,\nCarlie
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Yeah, you're completely right.  Christianity is poked fun at a lot, particularly since people came forward about sexual abuse.  I disagree with a lot of Catholic Church beliefs (mostly about women and homosexuals) In that sense, one can see that the Church has soem narrow-mindedness as well.  No one really knwos the answers to these types of questions, like why is it okay to make fun of white people or homosexuals?  You're just right and there's nothing to do about it except asking friends not to make such insensitive jokes.
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Yes. I have asked my pastor and friends to share their ideas after answering questions. There have been concepts covered here that I had not thought of before. It has served as a tool that has deepened my understanding and fortified my faith. My church is open to all questions, and we discuss whatever is on our minds on Wednesday nights, so the reaction has been as it always is, very welcoming and non-judgemental. A topic that I am currently mulling over is the concept of hell - whether it is the eternal burning and torture most think it is, or if it is obliteration by being thrown into the lake of fire. I'm leaning towards the latter lately as I have found nothing that indicates that hell is eternal torture.
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The church I attend is more like a family in that we make it a point to be involved in each others lives.  We "deal with" the good, bad, and ugly (so to speak).  My wife and a good friend started a clothing ministry which provides clothing to the needy.  We are also working with recent African refugees that escaped the killings in their country and are now lost in this one.\n\nI personally am always looking for ways to help others.\n\nBy the way, this church "family" has a lot of us who are going on a motorcycle ride after church today as it is "Biker Weekend" here.\n\nCome visit if you're ever in town.
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i went to a catholic school from the time i was in kindergarten until i graduated from high school.  the catholic religion believes that everyone who is not christian will go to hell regardless of what type of character they possess (i.e. if they are a good person or a deadbeat).  i'm a lutheran, which is very similar to a catholic, and as far as my understanding goes, the lutheran religion believes the same thing.  i do not.  i believe that no matter what religion you are participating in, if you live a just and moral life, you will be rewarded.  because, if u think about it, how can any really say what God is or if he exists?  i believe the bible to be an accurate historical document, but i believe that some of the events within the bible and some of the stories are fiction and were manufactured to provide guidance to people searching for the right way to live.  i hope this helps!  good luck in your search for faith...mine is still somewhat weak and non-existant so i hope you can relate to what i've said......
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unfortunately these kind of things happen, In your place I would be offended also, I feel for you, and am sorry for the loss, it is hard to get over things like this. The only thing I can say is try not to dwell, I know it is easy to say and another to do, but If it will make you feel better you can go infront of the church. And again I am sorry for your loss!
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I agree with Wendy.  I'll be thinking about this and I'll post later if I think of anything new, but at the very least, it would be fornication, which is condemned.\n\nCatholic priests have no business touching children.  Period.  God does not condone it.  In fact, they will be held to stricter judgment for being a stumbling block to their victims and all those who turned away from God because of their ungodly influence.\n\nI appreciate your concern for children.  I know God hates it.  I'll keep thinking.\n\n(As for cutting off one's hand or foot or putting out one's eye - that's how serious it is.)
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I'm a catholic and you know i never even thought of that. Glad you did and pointed it out. As far as Don up there maybe the reason he didn't go see it. Is because he's to much of a chicken, he would realize what kind of person he really is. He claims to be a christain but is always bashing the catholics. Calling us a perverted & cult like religion. A true christain doesn't bash another for their beliefs and religious practices. They are kind and understanding. If you are a christain and honestly feel  that some other religion is wrong the best  thing to do is pray for those ppl, not bash them . Thats the true christian way.
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I just want to know why it was okay to have scriptures & other signs of faith posted on government property in the past and now it's not okay. Who gave a group so much authority to think and act for the majority? If something is offensive, I turn my head away, but I respect someone else's right to do the offensive thing. I don't like it, but I don't go running to the ACLU & cry all over them because I was offended. I don't urge them to hire a multitude of lawyers to make those people stop their vile display, violating my senses. I don't like a lot of things that are happening in this world. I try to make a difference where I live, and an even smaller difference at the ballot box. But, all this talk about separation of church and state is horse hockey. Our constitution DOES NOT have that wording in it anywhere. I've read through it several times and I don't see it. Must have been written with invisible ink! But, the Russian constitution DOES have that wording. I can see how that would be important...to the Russians. This country was founded on scripture and Godly values, not matter what the history revisionists are trying print in our school books now days. And no matter if you or anyone else likes that fact, it's a fact. If it was good enough for our forefathers, why isn't it good enough for us now? I don't believe that we are so very enlightened now that we've forgotten where we've come from. I think a lot of people just don't want to be reminded of any symbol of faith. It might make them uncomfortable, and we wouldn't want that! We want everyone to be happy, right? But, in their effort to please one group, they're offending another. I guess it's okay. Those crazy Christians have had the past couple hundred of years to plaster their stuff all over this country. So, now they can just back off quietly and shut up. That's the attitude that the ACLU sends every time they force someone to remove another symbol of faith from public view. It reminds me of what happened in Nazi Germany. When Hitler was killing all the handicapped people, no one made a fuss because it didn't affect them. When he started killing another group of people, no one said anything because they weren't affected. Then Hitler came for them, with not a whole lot of people left to put up a cry. It wasn't until Hitler started taking over other countries that people stopped him. This tearing down of the symbols of faith will not stop. Many new churches don't even display a cross anymore, blending in with all the other buildings in the area. I believe that this country has been blessed with so much because of Godly people living and working here. Revelation 3:15-17 says, "I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot: I wish that you were cold or hot, one or the other. So then because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spit you out of my mouth. Because you said, I am rich, and have lots of  stuff, and have need of nothing (even God); don't you know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind and naked?" I believe we are already reaping the consequences of our departure of faith. That's why more & more bad stuff is happening to America than ever before. We will believe in anything, as long as it doesn't make us too uncomfortable. I know I am making this really long, but this is something that's very dear to my heart. I love America and I love the people who live in her. I also know that there will be a few who are offended by my long tirade. Sorry that your feelings have been hurt in any way. But, I stand firm in what I believe. Everyone has the right to live out their faith in any fashion they desire. That includes government property, because it's a part of America too. Stopping the public viewing of these symbols isn't going to stop people from believing in Jesus, worshipping God or limiting their church attendance. But,
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Christ did leave a Church to teach, govern and sanctify in His name until the end of time and it is the Catholic Church. I love informed posts!
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"JUST FOR THOSE CLAIMING I DO NOT HAVE A PROOF, THE BOOK IS BEING SOLD NOW AT MANY BOOK STORES"\n\nYeah! And if it's written in a book, it must be true!  Let's teach those Jews a lesson!\n\nHow about centuries of systematic persecution, complete with torture, forced conversions, and top it off with generous helping of mass murder?\n\nOh, wait, already did that.\n\nYou know, I've never seen a Jew do any of those things, and as an observant Jew myself, I know for a fact that none of those things are obligatory, or even recommended (of course, you can't believe me, because I'm one of them - best you keep getting your information from trustworthy sources like White Power groups).\n\nBut just in case a Jew ever DID do something like that, it's far more likely that he was thinking of people like you than of Jesus.\n\nIt's like, Jesus, save me from your followers!\n\nSeriously, you obviously have no clue what Judaism teaches, and as a way of expiating your own irrational hatred of Jews, you seem to have transferred it with these classic anti-Semitic libels.  You rationalize your hating Jews by saying that Jews hate what you hold dear.  I'll let you in on a little secret - most religious Jews don't hate Christianity; they simply don't care.  It plays no part in their lives, and in free countries, they have the right to live as Jews despite what racist pricks like you think (though describing what goes on in your head as "thinking" might be a tad generous).\n\nYou don't know shit about Jews or Judaism, but you insist on slandering them on open online forums.\n\nWHY??
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I take no joy in anyone's disgrace. However, the irony of the situation isn't lost on me. It makes me wish that the Fundamentalists and other groups would lighten up on the gay issue so that people could just come out of the closet instead of living lives based on secrecy and falsehood. It's a recipe for hypocrisy. My own church is open to gay clergy, and we haven't seen anything like this coming from them; we already know they're gay, so there's nothing to hide. It's a sad commentary on one individual--in this case, the minister in question--but a worse indictment of his own church and its homophobic agenda.