Hi I am a worshipor of more than one faith so please do not condem me to hell (especially cuase i dont believe in it) or give me any of that type of "Help"\nWhat I am looking for is how much truth is actually behind the Da Vinci Code.  I do believe in pagan beliefs aswell as Christin, buddist, hindu and others...but i still dont know how i feel in terms of (my theories) Christ being on of many sons of god or just a prophet like they others (i use the term acended masters to refer to them), any true information would help...i would like to thank anyone who actually took the time to read this\n\n(again how much truth is behind the di vinci code)
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Try a book called Holy Blood / Holy grail. It proposes that the "Grail" is actually the bloodline of Christ as opposed to a cup. Many persons believe this especially as Mary Magdelene was "written out" of the bible as a disciple by the early church. Presumably to suggest that women had no place as leaders in the early church. As with all of these theories they are just that. The DaVinci Code is a work of fiction about the protagonist trying to verify this theory and should be taken with a pinch of salt. However the underlying theory is very much debated and real.\nI do, however, believe that Jesus (as an individual) did exist so it is reasonable to assume he did marry and have children as he would have appeared VERY odd in those days as an unmarried individual. Whether he was the son of god or not...that's up to the individual.
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The secret behind the Da Vinci Code is that it's claims are flat wrong and that the major basis of has already been proven bogus and manipulated.  \n\nIt tried to disprove the bible.  Dan Brown claims that:\n\n-"The Bible is a product of man...not of God." (Page 231)\n-"The New Testament is false testimony." (Page 345)\n-"The New Testament is based on fabrications." (Page 341)\n-"The Bible... has evolved through countless translations, additions, and revisions. History has never had a definitive version of the book." (Page 231)\n\nIs there a woman in Leonardo’s Last Supper?\nLet’s do the math. Jesus and twelve apostles (all men) = 13 people. That’s how many people are in the picture. If Leonardo wanted Mary Magdalene in there, he would have to paint 14 people. \n\nLet’s do the history. The Last Supper was painted to decorate a dining room of a group of Dominican friars. Anyone of them was surely capable – especially when the painting was fresh and new – of noticing and asking why a woman was in the painting. But there is no record of anyone thinking that the figure to Jesus’ right was anyone but St. John because St. John was usually portrayed as a beardless, “pretty” rather than handsome youth. This “prettiness” was the artist’s way of highlighting his youth.\n\nLog on to www.wga.hu, click on Enter Here, click on “B” under “Artist Index,” scroll down and click on Bassano, Jacopo, scroll down his paintings and click on his Last Supper to get an enlarged view and see another young and “pretty” St. John.\n\nOr just think of Jeffrey Hunter playing Jesus in the “King of Kings” for a modern counterpart.\n\nAllow me to refer you to websites that would provide answers to your questions.
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I agree with your statements. \n\nMost people like to believe everything others accept as truths - it is so much easier that way. Not everyone has the intellect or time or truth seeking characteristic in them to make them want to find out the absolute truth (if it exists!). \n\nHere are some other things I question:\n\n1) the book of Mark was the first recorded version of the synoptic gospels (the other books follow mark) - however, early versions (about 50 AD) ended at mark 16:8 and did not include anything about the resurrection.\n\n2) I suppose you are discussing the literary christians - have people really looked at the teachings of the gnostics? Their interpretation makes a lot more sense to me. Perhaps jesus was married to Mary Magdalene....and Saul/Paul was a woman hater....\n\n3) isn't it strange that Paul ursurped the new testament (his teachings take over from those of the apostles after the gospels)? Does this make sense to anyone else - if paul was the right person to expand the religion, why did Jesuah ben joseph (Jesus to most) not accept him as an apostle? Oversight?\n\n4) Popes through the ages have committed incesteous acts, organised murders, led crusades against Christian parties (Saracens were Christians), meddled in politics, made huge errors in scientific terms (earth is flat and all that)...and people still believe that they would not edit the bible to suit their own needs?\n\n5) Most of what Christians believe today were decided at the Council of Nicea (Apostle's creed, Holy Trinity etc etc) - does this make sense? A group of old men telling future generations what to believe rather than letting them make up their own minds?\n\n6) Everything is based on faith. If you wanted to buy a stereo but you could not try it (you have to pay upfront of course), would you do so? You have to rely on faith that it is good and it works....Does this make sense? Can faith be described as ignorance and acceptance of what people tell you without being able to find out the truth? if Thomas can ask questions, are we not allowed to do so as well or is he just an exception?\n\nWhat irks me most are the bible loving people who have not read and have not bothered to do more research on the basis of their beliefs and yet come around and preach to others. isn't it a case of "blind leading the blind", and perpetuating the infallibility of the bible?\n\nI remember a Jehovah Witness telling me that he believes the bible to be true so I should as well. I asked him if a madman genuinely believed he was Napolean Bonaparte, does it make him Napolean? Of course not, this is a subjective belief. Perhaps this is it: we will never find objective evidence to prove religion either way and can only decide subjectively if we want to believe. \n\nBTW, for every example of a scholar who converted to Christianity after doing research, there are also the opposite cases, where scholars have given up their beliefs due to their findings. To quote one or the other as irrefutable evidence of the truth/untruth is probably naive.\n\nHowever, in my search for the truth, I have not come across the indication that the First Holy Roman Emperor removed all references to reincarnation. I question this quote from you.... \n\nUltimately, I ask if the teachings have harmed humanity and I think that my answer is no. The teachings of the bible are in essence good but only intellectual flyweights would believe it wholeheartedly and as literal truth.
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Joshua.  People like you crack me up.  Really!  You argue about biblical-specific entries and events as if they were factual and undeniable.  "written 4000 years ago"  On what?  Notebook paper?  Do you have some copies of those 4000 year old writings?  Do you have some secret text that nobody else has ever seen?  Are you on heroin or acid?  What's your trip?  None of the authors of the NT witnessed the alleged resurrection.  No matter how you stretch it, there are no actual accounts of it.  Most of the NT was created and written in 320AD under the direction of Constantine the Great, and its puirpose was NOT for historic accuracy.  Its purpose was to create a doctrine at the Council of Nicea that all factions of religious doctrine could agree upon and pull everyone together.  Why does it appear that there only a few people that post here regularly who actually know this?  Is your only source of "history" the Bible itself?  Are you crazy enough to use the Bible to prove the Bible?  Talk about illogic!\n\nThe original poster is correct -- if the notion of god portrayed in the bible is accurate, then there is no need for "free will" -- God already knows how things turn out.  He already knows who chooses free will and who doesn't choose free will, how they act, and who the sinners are and who goes to hell.  He already knows the choices people made in the past and what they'll make in the future.  He already knows how things will turn.  Already been there.  Outside of the time line?  Fine, state it however you wish.  It's still the same.  He's all knowing.  He knows how the "souls" will turn out. There's no need for a test on earth.\n\nThe question is not flawed at all.  Your assumption that the Bible is incontrovertible is flawed, and your statements of biblical myths as assertion are ridiculous.  It is one of hundreds of unprovable myths on this whole planet, full of fatal flaws, like the one this question raises.
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I have been going through the same thing right now.  I have done a lot of research and it is something that is really hard to prove.  Also there are 5 or 6 books that aren't in there and it makes me wonder who decided which books belong in the Bible and which don't.  Also have you noticed that other religions are just a loyal and believe just as strongly in their religions or "bibles" laws.  It's a strange thing.  Sometimes it makes me wonder if I always believed just because I was born here and my parents do .... I'm interested to see the answers you get though.
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The book claims that Leonardo Da Vinci is one of the Grand Masters of the organization called Priory of Sion that protects the bloodline of Jesus and Mary Magdalene.  His involvement on the book was more of his famous paintings which the author has shown much ignorance in his interpretation of Leonardo Da Vinci's work of art.  \n\nThe book is just a fiction.  And it has no evidences to support its claims.\n\nTo understand more about Leonardo Da Vinci and how he was associated in the book, allow me to refer you to this site: http://www.jesusdecoded.com/leonardo1.ph...
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I do believe that there is some truth to the Code and to the subjects covered in the book. I have reexamined the painting of the The Last Supper and I absolutely see the image of Mary Magdalene in the picture and I believe that Jesus could have been married and also fathered a child. You have to have an open mind and want to contemplate the possibilities that it could be true because I truly believe that it is very possible.
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Christianity being hopelessly self-contradictory to begin with, it's not all that amazing that you heap more contradictions on top of it to create your own special witches' brew of a religion.  It's basically what every so-called "christian" does.  \n\nSure, the bible was altered.  Over and over again.  Compiled from scraps, edited, misinterpreted, mistranslated, edited again.  The result is a document that one would have to be technically insane to take seriously, let alone "literally."  It's fascinating legendary fiction, and I read it for entertainment at least as much as the average "christian" reads it for enlightenment.  But it's absolutely crazy to try to rationalize your actions based on texts from the bible.  You might just as well look for precedent for everything you do in the works of Edgar Allen Poe.\n\nAs for "magick," "Christ" himself, or rather the historical personage(s) from whom the legend of the gospels is partially drawn, would certainly qualify as a "magician" or holy man of the standard Middle Eastern type.  He'd probably be amused to know that people continue to worship his image, conflated with legendary elements from pagan mystery cults, to this day.
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I agree with the previous post-I thought I could pull this one right out and I can't find a thing - though still looking.\n\nI am still looking on this....damn it must be some high government secrect...\n\nI have found out that while he was dying - he suffered greatly.\n\nok keep looking , i am getting booted out of the pc room but I wish you luck...if you ever do find out please email me and let me know at MY USER NAME at yahoo.com\n\nthanks,\n\nI really dont' know what it says - it just know that Leiden means sorrow or anguish, I know what his grave site said, how many kids he had, who studied under him, but not that he tripped on descartes shoes while being chased with a chain saw !!!!!!!\n\nI am beginning the t hink the man is still alive!  \n\nLOL
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The Da Vinci code is a book, the movie is coming out in a few days, by Dan Brown. He "claims" that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene and had a baby together. Also that there was a secret group hiding that secret. Also Brown claims that the Merovingian(sp?) is the bloodline of Jesus. \n\nOh by the way, while all of this is playing out, there is this guy who is a Harvard professor who teaches Symbology that has to go over to Europe to help this lady out with solving her father's death.\n\nThe reason "it shook the foundations of Christianity" is because Dan Brown, as I said earlier, claims that Jesus was married and had a child.
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The primary uproar from the DaVinci Code was that Jesus wasn't the true son of God, but that the church made that up years later.  \n\nAs for the rest of it, any time that you take something that has been long established or believed and try to change it, there will be those who resist just because that's "how it always was."\n\nI agree with your postscript, by the way.
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I can well understand your confusion. Maybe this will help ... #1: No one but YOU can judge whether or not you're a Christian. If you say you're one then you are one. OK, that part of your question is settled. #2: To whom do you give the authority to decide what else you believe? Who has authority over you and can tell you what you must believe as a Christian? Isn't that a little like whether or not you're a Christian? Isn't that YOUR call? Isn't that between you and your concept of God ... And NO ONE else? #3: The paranormal, aka psychic phenomena. Can you integrate that into your Christian belief system? Well, maybe. Maybe its not nearly so foreign to that belief system as you've been lead to believe. Maybe you've just been misinformed by people who in turn were misinformed or who in their studies misunderstood the thing. Maybe ... Think about these things ... Psychics have visions of the future, channelers talk to angels and others, readers of various types make predictions, and astrologers look at the stars and find wonders there. Any biblical co-relations here? John had visions of the future. Lot talked with angels. Prophets have made many predictions. And the Wise Men from the East? They were Persian Magi, well versed in astrology. They followed a star, and found a Great Wonder. Maybe, just maybe, the Bible and REAL Christianity is wrapped all around the paranormal. Maybe its just that certain things go by different names in different schools of thought and that confuses an issue that otherwise wouldn't be confused at all. Maybe to be a Christian you have no choice but to believe in the paranormal. Maybe other Christians just use different words to describe the same things and the only real problem of integrating these "seemingly different" belief systems rests there and no where else. Maybe. ~ Peace & Blessings ~
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OK, I am way at the bottom here. I will keep it short. \n\nI can understand your frustration, musicimprovedme, but let me take your username as a starting point. Do you believe that the works of Bach are accurate? How do you know they were not changed over the years? Do they not have a signature TGABG (To God Alone Be Glory)? Do they not have his style? Isn't it for reverence to his brilliance that we copied the manuscripts painfully accurate?\n\nFirst, forget who compiled it, its not important. Is it accurate? The Dead Sea Scrolls proved that the entire book of Isaiah can be copied for 2,000 years and still stay 100% accurate.\n\nDo you believe that Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life?" If not, you have no hope. If you do, act on that alone. That is all you need for salvation. You have to ask yourself what you want. Do you want salvation? Do you want to believe the Bible? Do you want hope and truth? You need to be talking to God about this, not a bunch of Yahoos on Yahoo! (I include myself)\n\nDo you want proof of the Bible's authenticity? Read my studies below. Do you want to come in contact with your Creator? Read the first one below. But stop assuming things that are not true on the Bible. That is not the problem, the problem is your lack of personal relationship with your loving Creator.
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Finally, a book with some truth to it.\n\nYou need to understand that only the characters, their actions, and the plot is fictional.  \n\nThe things which are making you think twice about are the actual facts.  Just so you know for instance, Venus does make a pentagram across the sky (thank you astronomy 101), the Priory of Sion is factual (thank you masonic history studies), catholic schools used to not allow left handers to write with their left hand (in medical terms, the left eye is called "oculus sinister" the left hand is called "manual sinister", the left foot is called "pedis sinister").  Catch the drift??  Left is evil, (in it's root word which comes from Latin) "thank you 4 years of latin".\n\nI hope the book helps you understand that history is written by the winners.  In Jesus's time, he was not the only person selling a new religious philosophy.  There were many others.  So you had the chance to "pick the new fad".  Why do you think it took 1300 years after his death for a catholic church to form?\n\nThe book should not make you drop religion, Dan Brown does not suggest that, and it's included with the book and it appears on his web page.  Instead, it should help you understand history a little more.\n\nIn case you didn't know, his previous book 'Angles & Demons' should be read before 'The DaVinci Code'.
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no, the da vinci code is a fictional book, it is just a theory. no truth to it.
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What a fascinating observation. When I read Dan Brown's novel The Da Vinci Code, I remember thinking about this unusual connection between painter Leonardo da Vinci and hoaxster Rory Emerald too. I think author Dan Brown or perhaps another writer is definitely planning on publishing something about this. I have seen questions and answers under religion & spirituality about Rory Emerald before. Leonardo was psychically connected with Rory in some bizarre way. There are tons of stories about Leonardo and Rory all over the internet. What is going on? (great question, you got me interested!)
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Do you people not realize that "Jesus" was just a man like any other man. Historical facts. Let me guess, the bible? The word of "God"? What did they hold a press conference so that they could get all the facts from "Jesus" and print them in one "historically accurate book"? I don't think so. I'm sorry but the bible is nothing more than a person or group of peoples perspective on a point in time. \nJesus was a human being! He had needs and desires just like every one else. Religion doesn't want to admit that because what, it will make him seem less "God like"? \nI think you people need to re-read the book. Yes "The Da Vinci Code" is a work of fiction. But I believe that a lot of the historical premises is based in truth. To what extent I don't know. The same with the bible. There may be a lot of truth there, but just like so much other written history, facts get lost or changed to suit the intentions of the author. \nCall it what you will, but I like to believe that maybe, just maybe the bloodline of Christ still exist out there today. What would be so wrong with that?