I'm writing a policy proposal that asks that the government physically secure our border with some type of barrier.  I would appreciate all of your reasons why this must be done with citations and links!  Much appreciated -- thank you!
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ASKER--You May Use ANY PART OF ANY TEXT That You May Find In My Blog For Your Proposal AT YOUR LEISURE\nIf You Need ANY Assistance Contact Me\nI Will Be MORE Than Happy To Assist You In ANY WAY\n**************************\n\nCANYONLANDS--They Already DO TUNNEL IN, AND They Bring DRUGS Through The Tunnels\n\njunior_03yes---Perhaps If There Were Not So Many ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS In The US, CITIZENS(White, Black, Hispanic)Could FILL The JOBS The ILLEGALS ARE TAKING And The Welfare Recipients Could Earn A DECENT LIVING\n(I THOUGHT I Told You To GO READ A BOOK)\nNow GO READ A BOOK And MAYBE Youll LEARN Something\n*****Youll All Have To Excuse junior_03yes, Hes Obviously A VICTIM Of The OVERCROWDED SCHOOLS Ive Mentioned In Other Answers AND In My Blog\n\n*************************\n\n\nPosted by The Watchdog - April 6th, 2006 \nDavid M. Bresnahan\nApril 1, 2006\nNewsWithViews.com \n\nDear President Bush: \n\nI’m about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I would like\n to ask you to assist me. I’m going to walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico,\n and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this. \n\nI plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws.\n I’m sure they handle those things the same way you do here. \n\nSo, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I’m on my way over?\n Please let him know that I will be expecting the following: \n\n1. Free medical care for my entire family.\n2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.\n3. All government forms need to be printed in English.\n4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers.\n5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.\n6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.\n7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.\n8. I will need a local Mexican driver’s license so I can get easy access to government services.\n9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won’t make any effort to learn local traffic laws.\n10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English.\n11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.\n12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and don’t enforce any labor laws or tax laws.\n13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy. \n\nI know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that Pres. Fox won’t mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely. \n\nThank you so much for your kind help. \n\nSincerely, \n\nDavid M. Bresnahan\n\nPosted in Border crossing, Pro-Illegal Groups, Mexico \n\n\nDo Ya GET IT??
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People here don't get we have over 2,000 miles of boarder on land and about twice that on sea!! No one can build a fence that big! Are we going to depth charge the coasts?\n\nWe have a hard enough time defending bi-lateral fences that are 155 miles long in Korea!\n\nMaybe the repubs would like it as it wastes a whole lot of money!
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This is very wrong.  We should have laws that keep these places from being sued because they deny someone service.  We should have laws that state only legal immigrants and U.S. citizens have the right to these places.  Also, the businesses that employ these people should be put out of business, screw the fines.  I also think we should put a wall along the whole border.  Why are we only putting it along 700 miles of our border?  why not the whole thing?
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I do think the Military should be used to protect ALL of our borders.  We have enough internal problems here already; so we should start protecting ourselves even more.  I fear terrorists coming in from the borders; so our Military should be there to make sure that doesn't happen.  And it would also stop people from entering this country ILLEGALLY.  \n\nTo answer your question about why you can't go to Mexico and just 'pick a spot there without any problems' is b/c they are VERY smart.  They DON'T allow people from other countries to just 'make themselves at home' without contributing to society.  So I say it's time for the United States to take that EXACT stand for our own country.  What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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The Secure Fence Act was HR 6061, not HB4377. You either read the wrong bill, or didn't read it thoroughly. Your information is incorrect. I've included a link to the actual text below.\n\nupdate: I see you have posted a link. That's to the failed bill in the House, which was an attempt to amend immigration law. It is not the bill that the President signed to allow building of the wall.
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quote from cited link\nquote\nsmuggling\nThe US Government estimates that 500,000 illegal migrants are brought into the United States annually by organized alien smuggling networks; another estimated half-million enter without the assistance of alien smugglers. Most illegal migrants enter the United States overland from Mexico or Canada. \nAccording to US Government estimates, some 500,000 to 600,000 illegal migrants who entered the United States in 1999 were Mexican nationals, and another 225,000 were Central American nationals. \nChinese smugglers, known as snakeheads, often move aliens into the United States by maritime vessels, including offshore transfers of migrants, but also transit South and Central America, Mexico, and Canada. The US Government estimates that 30,000 to 40,000 Chinese were smuggled into the United States in 1999. \nAlien smuggling contributes to the broader problem of increasing numbers of foreign nationals illegally resident in the United States, as well as in other relatively prosperous countries, who are straining social and economic resources and contributing to rising crime and anti-immigrant sentiment. Illegal aliens undermine wages and working conditions for legal employees, increasing the potential health and safety risks to the work force. Illegal immigration also increases the burden and cost of some government social programs. \nunquote\n\nhttp://www.fas.org/irp/threat/pub45270chap2.html#4\n\nnote: and stop being so focused on mexico\nhere link topeople smuggling in England\nexerpt from cited link\nquote\nThe illegal immigrants, smuggled in from the Kurdish areas of Turkey, pay between £3,000 and £5,000 for journeys which often take months, said police. \nunquote\nhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4329374.stm\n\nAND LAST BUT NOT LEAST....ever hear of MS13??\nquote from cited link\nquote\nIn Texas and the Rio Grande area, MS-13 has become particularly profitable.  U.S. and Mexican authorities acknowledge that MS-13 has been heavily involved in drug smuggling and human trafficking operations.  They estimate that there are over 200 active cells (cells are groups of at least 20 members) operating in the states that border Mexico.  Rumors abound concerning high-profile terrorist organizations contacting MS-13 for assistance in crossing borders in these areas.\nunquote\nhttp://www.altereddimensions.net/crime/MS13Gang.htm\n\nIF YOU LOOK AT ONLY ONE LINK...the third one ...about ms13 is most enlightening.\ntoo much focus on Mexicans.\nThere are a whole bunch of other people entering the US illegally.
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I think a wall should be built only if/when we decide to enforce our own immigration laws otherwise it will not do any good.  It has to be in phases, you build a wall, and then what, amnesty, guest worker programs, what would be next?  Something realistic I hope because some of the solutions Ive seen on here are a little extreme and not going to happen ever, the people who suggest them while claiming to be so smart, really aren't if they think that will be allowed or even lawful.
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I think this is the approach that SHOULD be taken.  How can you even consider guest worker programs or amnesty or ANYTHING, until you have a way to control the #'s?\n\nI too would be FAR more interested in considering some leniency for those here if I was convinced that they would be the LAST coming (from ANYWHERE).\n\nWe are the only country that does NOT have secured borders (and I do not just mean Mexcicans.  Several OTHER country's illegals just use Mexico as a way through.)  There are countries out there you would have NO DESIRE to even go to, let alone sneak into, and even THEY have better security.\nIf an illegal who just wants to work can sneak in, so can a terrorist.\n\nI'd be interested in knowing if anyone really doesn't want border security and if so, WHY?
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The people who cross illegally into the US through remote areas, for example along the US-Mexico border do not consider the impact of their presence on the environment. They leave behind plastic water bottles and gallon jugs, clothing, blankets, backpacks, soiled diapers and other human waste.  They are also responsible for many wilderness fires when their campfires get out of control or are not properly extinguished.\n\nThe law enforcement agents also have an impact on the environment - they need roads to get into the remote locations to patrol the area.  If fencing is constructed, staging sites, heavy machinery and construction crews have an added environmental impact.
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somebody answered my previous question saying that it appeared to be border control! They found boot tracks that matched those used by border control in the mud around it! I think that is even funnier than the fact that the fences were torn down.
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We actually have a number of programs to do just that and will continue to have more.  However, we need border security badly after 9/11.  I think the cost of NOT doing it would be a lot higher than the cost of building it.
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I think a big wall isn't going to stop someone who is welling to travel hundreds or thousands of miles to cross it. Tunnels are common on the border. There are also things called latters and with the right tools anyone with a little know how can cut break etc. an opening for a person to slide through.The WALL is Just a psychological barrier and jester from some "smart" politician trying to save his cozy little seat in the house or senate. The incentive to come to us isn't to "crusar el rio" crusar la frontera.It's the jobs,the almighty dollar. Yeah and I'm sure some greedy government contractor would love to pay undocumented workers to build a wall out in the f....ing desert for 6 bucks an hour screw the government for 16 an hour. Lets see what our politicians come up with next. This is the reason everyone able to vote should get involved and not just lay blame on politicians. We elect them if we vote. Guess who doesn't have that right? non citizens.
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Although homeland Security was set up to guard our country from terrorist attacks, HOW can we have "homeland security" when our borders are WIDE OPEN to ANYONE who wants to sneak into the country??!!!
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I teach at a special education school which require special safety rules.  Here are two of ours:\na.  Always walk on the right side of halls and sidewalks, no exceptions.  (Everyone is blind, so this keeps everyone's traffic moving smoothly and no one bumps into each other!)\nb.  All doors must either be all the way shut or all the way open--no doors halfway ajar. (When walking down the right side, half open doors really hurt when someone slams into them!)\n\n2.  Campaign Ideas\na.  Income tax reform -- it has become such a bureaucracy that it operates to feed itself and is so inefficient it requires more tax dollars to fund itself than it gives back to the government for programs.\n\nb.  Socialized medicine  -- instead of health care reform, why not just go to socialized medicine so everyone can have free health care as in other countries, there is no competition for drs., and the level of care is consistent from one facility to the next?\n\n3.  Immigration Laws:\na.  INS needs overhauling as in the IRS.  If we have this many illegal aliens and are asking the National Guard for help, then the INS isn't doing their job.\n\nb.  Find out what other countries do about this problem.  Why don't some of the other countries have the same problem?
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Where Exactly Is The Border Secure??\nThe Whole Border Is Open
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Everytime I hear a comment like your I get fired up.  Can you honestly think as a schooled individual that the only solution to the security issues is to station troops and hold a nation hostage again, just because you feel it will make it safer?\n\nEver since WWII it was proven by the US Military that the Panama Canal was vulnerable by air, and that there was no precise way to properly defend an air attack.  So basically troops are only good for a conventional ground invasion.  If we consider that now a terrorist technique would be used, then exploding a vessel in one or in all the locks would also be undefendable.\n\nAs for the treaty, well as someone properly said it was the Carter adminstration that decided to renegotiate and grant the adminstration to the Panamanian Government on December 31, 1999 at noon.  However the defence of the Panama Canal has always been a duty for all the nations that signed the Neutrality Treaty of the Panama Canal, including the United States.\n\nOh by the way, the Panama Canal Treaties are 3:\n1. The Panama Canal Treaty (Adminstration of the waterway)\n2. The Neutrality Treaty (States that the Panama Canal is neutral during wartime - this is an ongoing treaty)\n3. The Status of Forces Agreement (ran out on December 31, 1999 as the remaining US Armed Forces left Panama)\n\nSincerely the best the world can do to keep the Panama Canal safe is to strenghten democracy in Panama, help the Panamanian economy to flourish in such a way that its inhabitants are comfortable with their economical status to minimize social uprisings, and to keep Panama out of armed conflicts as a neutral country in every circumstance.\n\nAnd if you're wondering, yes I'm Panamanian, yes I was schooled in the US, yes I've traveled a lot and have been in contact with different cultures, and yes one of my studies as an attorney was International Law, more specifically the Panama Canal Treaties.
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The Berlin Wall kept people IN not OUT. The wall we would like erected at our border is to keep OUT illegal immigrants and anyone else who wants to enter our country without detection which includes terrorists, criminals and drug dealers. The people who want to enter legally would have to be screened. That would also cut down on the chances of speading dangerous diseases into the USA. It is a good way to HELP deter illegal immigration. Border security would take care of those who manage to get in illegally. The Border security should have the right to shoot on sight anyone who crosses at any point other than those designated.