We talk about legal, illegal, open borders, come one come all. The world is welcome \nAt present the world population is 6.6 billion people adding two people every second.\nEach person living in the USA uses 5 times more resources then any other country in the world.\n\nEverything has a carring capacity regarding land and natural resources like Water.\n\nCauses and effect of population also effect law/ rules to accommadate more and more people. Less Freedoms.\nThinking of those issues. The question is:\nAt what number does the USA have to get to before you would say it is enough????\n\n1. The number\n\n2. How would you stop it? or do you think you could??????\n\nPLEASE KEEP IT SHORT. and \nNO RACIST STATEMENTS UNLESS OF COURSE YOU ARE THE  "VILLAGE IDOIT".
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The magic number is whatever our legal population is right now. How to stop it... Close the border immediately. Remove all illegals.\n\nPlain and simple.
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It's about time you posted another question; don't you know I need my fix? \n\nMy opinion is that the article exposes the fact that the U.S. has problems. Yes, people, I know it is difficult to look into the big golden mirror, but we have serious issues here. \nI have always found it funny, that we have a nation full of people who spout Christian doctrines over breakfast then lobby for the God given right to carry assault weapons after lunch. I would not say that taking religion out of the country, or parts of it, would be a good idea. Religion keeps many people in line. Without the belief that the meek shall inherit the earth, there would be discontent amongst the nation's hard-working, extremely underpaid classes. But I do feel that the aforementioned reason is why religion has such a stronghold on this government. \n\nBeekay: This nation was founded by people who wanted religious freedom. The term "Creator" was quoted by you, from the forefathers of the country. Do you know why they did not use the term, "God"? It was so people of any religion could feel free to settle here. The "moral decline" of society began way before the 50's and 60's. How moral can a society be when 1/2 the population is treated worse than animals (Jim Crowe laws, rampant racism and lynchings), 1/2 the population had just been freed from slavery. 1/2 the population could not vote, and that's Women and Blacks. So, how moral was your idealic society?
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What you say rings true - but I have one fact to add.  The current debate in congress is to allow 103 million people, mostly from Mexico, accross the border in 20 years.  Immigration is great, but colonization is not, and legal colonization is dispicable by our leaders.\n\nWe don't hate Mexicans, we just love our country more.  I say to be fair, if they want to send 100 million this way, 100 million should be able to go to Mexico.   But they can't - not only illegal entry a felony, but unless your of Mexican descent you can't be a citizen without an act of the Mexican Congress if you know what I mean.\n\nNothing personal, but please tell me when does immigration turn into colonization?
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poor girl!! People say that this is a illegal immigration issue not a racist issue, but people make it a racist issue when they make comments like "All Mexicans are stealing lazy a$$es" how can you debate with those kind of comments and say it's just a illegal immigration issue?I call BULL SH*T. and agree with you!!
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Consider that we are letting people into our country via Mexican border that want to honestly kill us! There is no way to monitor the vast amount of people pouring into our borders every day!These people need to be fed and housed and I have seen people receive WIC cards that I know were illegals! Diversity is a wonderful thing IF you are legal! If not, go home and try to make your country great. Take the example of the American people and do what they did...struggle to make this country what it is! Demand change! We cannot afford to pay with our lives and safety of our citizens since our national security is at stake. If you really want to become an American you need to learn the language which is ENGLISH! Do not expect to have your own language here and have people  accommodate you! If my ancestors did it ...you can too! If you are not willing to learn the language of a country you do not deserve to be a citizen of that country! We are a blend of the BEST of the whole world , we only want the best the world has to offer. You have to show you are a person who respects the laws of this country before you will be welcomed in as one of us! This means no running over the borders!
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Hey, your english is not very good.  Are you an immigrant? No, I'm not going to "over shop" my whole life...and I also know it's highly improbably that 12 million people will be deported.  It's just not possible.  But we can sure as heck do our best to stop letting people in for awhile...and deport SOME of them.  I say start with the ones who don't pay taxes or put much money into our economy.  \n\nTell me, 20 guys who carpool to work in the same car, and share one house...how much are they really putting back in to the economy???  Not much...won't miss 'em.
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Everyone who is answering saying that they hate illegal immigrants, not all immigrants, forgets that the US does not allow many people to get the change to be citizens.  There is a quota system where only a certain number of immigrants are admitted.  People are getting mad at the victims of an action, not the action.  And guess what people, you're the ones perpetrating this action.  Write to your congressman and tell them that the quota system of letting in immigrants is wrong!
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Mami Chula - why do your people keep having children that you cannot afford?  The fact that you do that is not the fault or responsibility of me and all the other citizens of the USA.  Please, now that you know so much more, go back to your country and spread the word about contraception and what causes babies - give your people some of the education that you have gained and really make a difference in their lives.\n\nAsker:  I am with you - for legals and against illegals.  If you want to come to the US of A, do it the right way.  If you are here illegally, leave and apply through the lawful channels.  You will feel so much better about yourself, believe me!  And your children will also feel so much better about you and will be able to feel pride in themselves.  Do it for yourselves and for your children.
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illegal immigration is turning this country into something other than a 'melting pot'...with soo many new (illegal) immigrants, that are prob. going to get amnesty, the u.s. will have no choice but to limit the amount of immigrants comming from other countries around the world, to keep the u.s. from becomming over populated.. our immigration system is being overwhelmed by a single region, and i'm afraid other's in the world will see it as unfair...i will agree with them. (many people around the world have to wait years, and even decades for the immigration lottery to pick them, on top of paying all the legal fees, and seeing others break the law and get away with it is depressing)
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Jewish people do discuss their opinion on the immigration issue.  I don't live in the United States at the moment so I'm a bit out of the loop on this issue, but I tend to be very compassionate towards illegal immigrants.  I think it's important to remember that we were all created in the image of G-d, that all people are entitled to live with dignity, and that we should try to think of what is moral and what is just, and then make that into a legal reality.  Sometimes laws are not just.  One of the central ideas in Judaism is that it's our duty to create a more just world.
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I have a lot of friends from Pueblo.That doesn't change the fact that they are illegal.Some I taught English to and they taught me Espanol.There are even some that I helped set on the right foot towards citizenship.You know as well as I do that you should have gotton your citizenship by now.Those that I helped are on their way.I'm proud to call them Americans.A friend of mine from Ecuador just recently returned from the Gulf Coast.So it's not only Mexicans that Cross the border.It' not only you that we are trying to curb it's all of South America.Not only do we have an influx from you but from all over the world.Drugs,illegal weapons,female slavery and a host of other cancers that we can't see yet cross with those illegals.We have to secure our borders,all of them.If you are serious seek an Abagado.I think that's how you refer to an Attorney.I have friends from all over the world seeking citizenship the proper way.WHY CAN'T MEXICO AND YOU.GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND I MEAN THAT
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Over one acre of farmland or natural habitat \nis lost to development \nfor each person added to the population.  \n\nIf current mass illegal immigration \ncontinues to add to the problem\nand consumption trends continue, \nby 2020 all domestic oil supplies will be depleted \nand the United States will be forced \nto import almost 100% of its oil.\n\nThen The Fuc*in Arabs \nWill REALLY Have Us Over A Barrel  \n\nEvery day we permanently remove \n3.2 billion gallons of water from our aquifers \nthan is replaced by natural processes. \nPopulation growth has encroached on our wild lands.\n\nFood, water, gas and electric energy supplies / reserves\nare at an all time low,\n \nWe have far exceeded \nthe carrying capacity of the United States.  \nWe have depleted the fossil fuels that power our cars,\nand provide us with heat in the winter, \nand they cannot be replaced.\n\nThe “United States” is overrun with illegal aliens, \nand we have already lost much of life as we knew it.\nHospitals are closing, and declaring bankruptcy \nbecause they cannot accommodate the demand\nfor “free” services to illegal aliens, \n\nThe educational system is in the toilet \ndue to bilingual education \n(which is not provided in any language \nother than “Mexican Spanish”) \nthe welfare system no longer exists \nfor Americans who need assistance, \nSocial Security has been depleted \nbecause the “fund” has been misused\n\nApproximately, 10 to 12,000 illegal aliens \ncross our borders everyday. \n\n3 Million + Per Year\n \nSince no one is enforcing our laws, \nthe majority of them end up somewhere in our country,\nwith American citizens’ tax dollars \nand Social Security benefits paying their way, \nand American Citizens are being subjected \nto the myriad of diseases \nthat heretofore were extinct.\n\nWE THE PEOPLE, The American Citizens \nare not going to be displaced \nand starved out of our own country.
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The issue is illegal immigraiton. Read more. Everybody and their dog is trying to bum-rush the border these days, and americans don't want a France in their backyard. If you don't understand what that's all about, then sit down and read about all the immigration problems france has been having, the riots etc.\nWe don't want, nor do we need all of that garbage in america. Hence the need to uphold our immigration laws. We need a lot more law enforcement on the job. Do you want to see america tank? Honestly? What kind of country do you want YOUR kids to grow up in? Choose carefully...
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Yep.\n\nNot just them, \nthere is just too many people now. We (we as in all)are destroying this land.  No more Northern Woods. We are depended on others (countries) to feed us-couldn't grow enough for all our own if we had too. They say more farms what they don't say is we purchase a hundred acres farm and used 60 acres for development  and divided it into smaller farms so the count looks good. Our water supply is short unless you want to drink the lakes. Wildlife has been limited in many areas. Its like no one sees the long term effects-------shortsighted.  If they themselves don't feel it -they don't see it. Then you get those I see plenty of land-well if everyone who lived here (cities included) wanted it divided how much do you think it per each would it come out too? Every see Japan's crowed areas would everyone like that?\n\nNo easy solutions. But how many people can United States of America hold and still be beautiful?\n\nJust look Wikpedia says 298.217,215 people/ land is 3,000,00,000 sounds good now if you take away the deserts,mountains,swamps, ect it brings it down less than 1/3 of a lot. Also consider some is used for businesses and commercial and service (hospitals, fire, police,schools, parks ect). Gee I don't think anyone can come till our kids stop populating like rabbits.
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a civil war... over this?!  That is a melodramatic statement.  Is the issue out of hand?  yes.  People tend to complicate things before they solve them.  \n\nI've written the following into several discussions but here's a suggested solution:\n\n\nThe reality is that US immigration policy is inherently racist.  The moment you use a quota system in a lottery to figure out who can come in, you are a racist. We need to resolve this once and for all.  Amnesty won't work because we don't enforce the laws.  America tried amnesty some twenty years ago, and here we are,\n\nFor the record, it's not just Mexicans, but illegal immigrants from anywhere including Western/Eastern/Central Europe, Asia, Africa, and South/Central America.\n\nWhat we need to do is resolve our racist policies the following is an example of what I would do:\n\n1.Simplify the process\na.Charge $3000, USD.\nb.Request proof of birth, proof of no criminal record, work history and 6 references\n\n2.Give a specific time-frame say 1 year.\n\n3.No quotas, if you pass, you pass.  If you don’t pass, you are not welcome, not even to visit.\na.If you don’t pass there must be an initial review to make sure nothing was missed\nb.There should be a 1 time appeal.  The results of which can not be contested.\n\n4.Once in the US, you are on a temp status for the next 6 years.  If you want permanent status, then you must prove the following:\na.You have worked/gone to school,\nb.Paid all relevant taxes (local, state, federal),\nc.Committed no crimes, \nd.Have a minimum capacity of functional English (speak/read/write).\n\n5.Complete all of item 4 and you get your initial application fee back (less interest).\n\n6.Any illegal in the US at the time of the law would be allowed to submit their papers locally without fear of incarceration (unless other criminal issues attach)\n\n7.Make it a crime to hire illegal immigrants.  With a simple formula:  Whoever is responsible for hiring  does 5 years for each illegal hired; this could only be served sequentially, not concurrently.\n\n8.For anyone who opts to remain illegal or come here illegally after the new immigration standard:  \na.No benefits; not medical, dental, no drivers’ licenses, no emergency room visits, nothing.\nb.The same would apply for the children of illegal immigrants born here.\n\n9.The key is that immigration must be reasonable and fair.\n\nAs for the illegal immigrants here now, well they should submit the same documentation and expect no preference during the approval process.  They should be allowed to stay here during the process.  If found to be unacceptable, jail and then deportation.
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obeirn1:  Fianlly someone with a brain on here.  I agree with you 100%.  Here is the trouble with this immigration debate, to much prejudices, and racisits trying to run the country.  Also some of these "haters" as I have so affectionatly called them, tend to go with what the neighbor says without investingating things themselves.  Like most things, when people jump to conclusions, this whole thing will turn out to blow up in the "haters" face.  People dont realize that it is not just "Mexicans" here illegally, and if you look at the problem more, you will se that it is actually our own Governement (INS policies) that prohibit the majority of these hispanics from gaining papers.  Look at it from their side, if your kids were starving would you not do what you had to do to feed them?  Now if you cant afford food, how on earth are you to afford thousands of dollars for papers, when the wages in countries like Mexico are 5 bucks a week....people just think they know all when they refuse to see the tarnish on the coin.  ~~To answer the question, I am ashamed that as a whole, americans think they are somehow better than the rest of the world!~~
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Oh I see you decided to speak English again. Good for you. \n\nTo answer your question: I think this illegal immigrant situation became a monster slowly. In other words, at first only a few hundred people were sneaking across the border daily. But over time, it has progressed, kind of inconspicuously, into a few thousand or more per day. It is one of those things that most people don't notice until one day we wake up and see that our world has totally changed and we didn't see it coming because it happened so slowly over time.\n\nBut once it was brought to our attention, we found that we needed to do something about it. No double morality here.\nIllegal is illegal,whether it be drugs, underage drinking, or a parking ticket. If it is illegal, then I am having a problem understanding what the big misunderstanding is.