Hey,\n\nDoes anyone have references on either academic books, articles, papers, essays ... or primary sources on:\n\n1- The history & state of Mizrahi jews in Arab countries.\n2- Their immigration to israel, the reasons, the periods, etc..\n3- Their presence in Israel over  time: their political, economical and cultural status since they first immigrated?\n\n\nI have a 20 page thesis on Israeli politics, i'm interested in doing something about Mizrahi & Sephradi jews, what topic do you propose?
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...But for Jews living in Arab lands, the problems were just beginning. Across North Africa and the Middle East, more than a million Jews, already living as second-class citizens in hostile nations, were driven into exile after 1948, their property confiscated, their futures uncertain... \n\nGood topic. Not many people are aware of the Jewish refugees from Arab lands. Some sites to get you started:\n\nhttp://www.jimena.org/\nhttp://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/arabjewtoc.html\nhttp://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_independence_refugees_jews_why.php\nhttp://www.americansephardifederation.org/sub/sources/jewish_refugees.asp\nhttp://www.jafi.org.il/education/100/maps/refs.html
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Tammy, I would do my best to assist. I have some references (E-books) and a Translated version of Quraan. If you find that I would be helpful, just send me an E-mail to my yahoo identity.\n\nThanks
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Don't get me started on this subject. I believe and some historians agree that the only true originals of that area of the world is the Palestinians every Jew is not genetically connect to the original people only religously.\nNotice most of the Jews that came back to "take back their land" came there from European countries. I have no problems with Jews at all but the facts are most Jews of wealth and knowledge were taken away by the Romans in the \ndays of Roman rule  inter-bred wth  the local people and convert some to Judaism.This is over 2000 years!\n The ones that stayed were invaded by others and eventually became Islamic and called themselves Palestinian.\nThe only reason the major countries of the world support Israel is because the Jews control the banking industry of the world.They got the money! I told you not to get me started.
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i'm from israel! its the best place to be!!sure i can help u. flootzy@yahoo.com
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From religioustolerance.org:\n\nGemara (one Babylonian and one Palestinian) is encyclopedic in scope. It includes comments from hundreds of Rabbis from 200 - 500 CE, explaining the Mishnah with additional historical, religious, legal, sociological, etc. material. It often records many different opinions on a topic without giving a definitive answer.
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These links should get you started, and will lead you to many othr links.  If you consider they were each from different countries, think about that in terms of their perspectives.  \n\nGood luck with your paper.
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I'm going to do some research and revise this answer if I find anything. I think Stephen Speilberg is connected with some kind of database. Most of all...I want to wish you good luck in your search!\n\nOK...This page seems to contain databases of Holocaust victims and survivors. Hope it helps!
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I think it is very foolish to blindly support Israel. The Arab/Muslim world's voice is ignored, and while this is being done, we will NEVER have world peace. (Here it comes: I am going to be branded a nazi anti-semite.... again, which I am NOT) I am saying: Let's LISTEN to what they have to say. I am not proposing the destruction of Israel, but sadly, Israel is regarded as a bastion of western democracy by some in the west, but as a cancer by most in the Arab/Muslim world, and the ONLY solution is to sit down and LISTEN to EVERYBODY'S view.\nI have had people writing to me pointing out that Egypt is a shining example of the acceptance of Israel in the Middle East;\nwhat a misconception, while they are receiving billions of dollars from the US, they are only paying lipservice to this socalled acceptance. The people in the Middle East allege that the state of Israel was IMPOSED on them, (which is partly true) and this will remain a festering sore in the search for peace in the region. Certain interest groups in the Western world have equated the call for a serious and analytical look a the situation as being 'anti-semitic' (the 'last taboo', as mentioned in the question.) While this 'equation' is heeded by western leaders, terrorism will flourish. Israel is acting like a little boy whose older brother is the strongest in the the school, and by extension, the little brat is going around doing whatever he likes, knowing that his BIG brother will protect him.\nWe should ask ourselves: For how long are we going to allow this situation to continue? Until we are FORCED to sit down and LISTEN, or until we have a war between religions? Is it too much to ask to LISTEN?
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Here is a good list of Jewish surnames and what biblical name that are derived from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_surnames\n\nI also find it interesting, doesn't mean that I'm racist either. Jewish history and culture are fascinating and teach us valuable lessons.
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What is a true Jew, the descendant of Hebrew slaves who escaped Egypt 3500 years ago, that is a myth. or is it the descendant of Hebrews cast away from the land of Israel 2500 years ago, that's is doubtful.\nMost Jews descend from the Jewish population of Israel, that were evicted by the Romans 2000 years ago, and moved to many locations in Asia and Europe, like Persia and Babylon, Spain, south Germany, Yemen, and many other places.\nabove that they all are followers of the Jewish faith.
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Sparky First let me say I appreciate the 10 pts. I don't know what I did to piss you off though. I told you to look up the work "Qumran" because it is one of the best documented archaeological finds in the world and I knew that there would be plenty of info online (which would be convenient for you). Would you rather me refer you to the dozens of books that I know of offhand or to an infinite # of archaeological reports that are incredibly boring to read? I studied Qumran under Jodi Magness at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and she is the foremost American Archaeologist in the world concerning the "holyland." In particular, she is definitely the foremost authority on Qumran, where the Dead Sea Scrolls were found.  In case you don't know, archaeology is SCIENCE, not religion, and archaeological reports and finds are scientific and are not at all connected to the Church or any religion.  \n\nNothing in my answer to you dealt with religious dogma, I simply tried to answer your question as to why SOME Christians see a threat in the DaVinci code. Now, as for your claim that the bible was written 200 years after Christ, well that's true for some of the later NT books, but not of the Gospels. Some of the gnostic texts were much later than the gospels, which is part of the reason they were rejected by the church. \n\nAnd lastly, you claim that the bible has changed so many times that it's all crap. What do you have to support this? Go see the Dead Sea Scrolls some time, which were written between 2500-2000 yrs ago (as I visited a DSS exhibit about a month ago in Charlotte, NC). And then compare that to the KJV or the American Standard Bible.  The Old Testament found in the 1950s in the Caves near Qumran is nearly word for word with what we have today.  It is amazing that in 2000 or more years the Jewish text has changed so little!  This means that we should all reexamine the amount of credit we have granted the Jewish oral tradition that was so important to the early Christian Church.  IT IS ACCURATE, whether you want to admit it or not. SCIENCE and HISTORY support that.\n\nAgain, I answered your question rather well... Let me try one more time in FIVE SIMPLE SENTENCES that will be very easy for you to comprehend this time:\n\n1.  It wouldn't be so bad if Jesus was married.\n\n2.  Christians are NOT offended or threatened by the possibility that Jesus could have been married.\n\n3.  It's simply not historically true or believable, from the bible and from the writings of two Roman historians Tacitus and Josephus.\n\n4.  However, Some Christians ARE offended by the notion that Christ was not Divine; and the "The DaVinci Code" claims his having a child is proof that Jesus was NOT divine.\n\n5.  Such a claim can be damaging to the mission field because people like you believe anything and everything you read in a novel or see on TV and are therefore hostile toward Christianity.\n\nSo, that's why some Christians are offended by the DaVinci Code and by the notion that Christ might have been married to and had a child with Mary Magdalene.  Because of the hostility towards Christianity that such false belief creates.  People like you work directly against anyone trying to bring people to Christ.  \n\nPS.. the whole "MM was a whore" lost in translation thing.. do your history research man, you don't know what you are talking about at all.  You speak fiction and pass it off as truth. \n\nAnd you wonder why people would be offended?  maybe some people just like the truth?\n\nLet me ask you a question.  Why are you so offended by Christianity?  What are YOU afraid of?  The Truth?
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I'm not sure which "scholars" you're referring to, but I've never seen any support for your conclusions among mainstream Biblical academians. Could you give us some references on these "scholars"?\n\nFor what it's worth, I posted an entry about Haggard on my blog yesterday. Check out the link below.
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I agree with you. I find it distressing that so soon after the Jews had been horribly excluded and killed in their millions by Hitler and the Nazi's (up to 1945) they then went on to persecute and exclude, kill and humiliate another race of people, literally from about 5 years later. Do you think we will ever learn that persecution and violence only leads to more persecution and violence. And for all the people who went on about palestinian suicide bombers, obviously you do not get the papers that report the thousands of palestinian men women and children killed by Israeli soldiers everyday, walking to and from school or to their homes. The Israeli state started this persecution and it is the lack of action by the U.S (who have too many links with powerful and rich Jewish companies) and other democracies such as the U.K which allow this blatantly illegal occupation to carry on. We still supply israel with aid and arms so they can continue killing.
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>>>>I'm just curious who was historically the first on the land….\n\nThe trouble is that the question makes no sense. Both historically and mythologically the Jews were Arabs. They aren’t a different people, they are simply a different religious sect. Prior to the rise of Islam around 1500 years ago the Middle East and North Africa was home to thousands of different religions, and one of those religions was Judaism. The different sects were in a state of near perpetual war with their neighbours as well as with the great powers like Babylon and Egypt.\n\nFrom a purely historical perspective it seems that one of the numerous religious sects living in Palestine gained the upper hand, either through theocratic means or through warfare or a combination of the two. Gradually they absorbed all the other people of that region and formed the state of Israel.\n\nBear in mind also that even at the time of Christ present day Israel wasn’t entirely Jewish occupied or controlled. Much of it was in Samaria, the Samaritans being a Hebrew but not Jewish sect that didn’t accept the absolute sanctity of the temple.\n\nSo as you can see it’s not a simple case of saying the Arabs or Jews were there first. Historically Jews are Arabs and Jews never historically occupied all of what is now Israel.\n\n>>>> were the jews exiled or chased out or volunteerily left?\n\nA little from column A, a little from column B.\n\nRemember how at the time of Jesus Israel had been occupied by the Romans?  Needless to say the Jews didn’t like that, and the situation was further aggravated by the Romans doing various stupid and offensive things. Eventually the people of Jerusalem and much of Judeaea got fed up and rebelled. A lot of Romans were killed, a lot more Jews were killed, a lot of Jews killed themselves rather than be captured. \n\nThe Romans ascribed the unrest to a religious source and decided that enough was enough and The Temple was torn down. \n\nWithout the temple to sacrifice at the Jews had no strong reason to cling to Israel, and combined with Roman persecution they mostly decided to leave in several waves over the next few hundred years.\n\nSo you could say that it was a voluntary Exodus, but it was just as much a refugee movement.\n\n>>>>Why did the international community choose the land in dispute now?\n\nBasically because\n\n1)It is the traditional Jewish homeland and a lot of Jews wanted it back.\n2)Jews had a lot of political clout in Washington after the war.\n3) Jews had been regularly slaughtered in Europe over the last 2000 years, and the recent Nazi holocaust was by far the worst example. A lot of people tjought that it would be a good idea not let it keep happening, and decided the best way to do that would be to give the Jews their own country outside Europe.\n\nCombine those three factors and you see a simple solution to all problems/ The fact that Palestine was a British colony/protectorate at the time and Britain wanted to offload all its colonies as fast as possible helped no end.\n\nBenji Man  wrote:\n>>>>>Africa is the cradle of civ so I will go with an early nomadic african people.\n\nAfrica is not the cradle of civilisation. Asia is without a doubt the cradle of civilisation with a second nucleus in Central America.
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Short answer to a hard question to answer:\n\nThe kingdom of Israel is the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. However, this was approximately 1200 BCE, and since that time many other nations have laid claim to the land, effectively expelling the Jewish people from the territory, scattering them among the ancient lands. Although the Jews attempted to return to Israel often, they were usually met with hostility. Over time, and until the last few centuries, Muslims were the primary inhabitants of the this region, forming the nation that would eventually be known as Palestine, though it was ruled by the Ottoman Empire until the early 20th century.\n\nWhen the British occupied the land after World War I, they encourages a movement that had been gaining popularity in Europe - the resettlement of the Jewish people in their ancient homeland. Although these mass migrations happened in waves, it caused tensions between the Jewish and Arab peoples who occupied this nation, not only due to religious and cultural differences, but to claims of land ownership. The Jewish people had not controlled land in this region for thousands of years, but were given land that had once been controlled by Arab people. Being forcably displaced from their homeland, the fighting between the Jews and Arabs escalated.\n\nDuring World War II and the rise of Nazism, the Jewish people were driven from Europe or slaughtered by the millions. After the fall of Germany, ending the war in Europe, many thousands of displaced Jewish people found themselves without a home. Thus is was decided to place them into Palestine. Hostilities between Jewish and Arab peoples in the country increased, eventually leading to the withdrawl of Great Britain from the region. \n\nIn 1947, Israel was carved out of Palestine, and given its own sovereign status. This erupted in war in region, as many Arab nations refuse to recognize the country of Israel, created, rather arbitrarily, by world powers, effectively isolating the Palestinian (Arab) occupation that had existed for over a millenia. A series of miliary conflicts and occupations of land resulted in the current tensions we hear about today.
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Hang on a minute. I thought Muslims looked to Allah and Mohammed as their Saviour/Prophet and Islam as their religion? Regardless, there is nothing on record that says Jews are the 'chosen people'. The only people who say this are Jews themselves, and these interpretations are based on THEIR interpretation of a 'Bible' written by fellow Jews...who played down their role in the execution of another Saviour of mankind. \n\nIf we all believe that the Lord/Allah/Jesus/Jehovah is our saviour (because God has many faces), we are ALL chosen people - not just one race or one nation of people and certainly not because one race of people has written a 'Book' biased in their favour...\n\nWhy ask such a stupid and ill-informed question on this board if not to provoke ill feeling?
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http://www.jewishaustralia.com/community.htm