what do yall think of the hole immigration thing and the way that they are taking it
134147
They are carrying the country. The USA would collapse if all the illegal immigrants left.
199638
I think that it's an unnecessary strain on race relations.  I believe they would have been more successful at getting reform by doing this quietly.  The president, who is a conservative, had just pushed a bill to allow illegals to become eligible to apply for citizenship.  So, if a conservative is for it, it will probably pass since most of his party will follow him and the liberal would vote in favor of it.\n\nBut then it got ugly and there were marches demanding AMNESTY (instantly legal), not just the ability to apply for citizenship, and the race issue came up.  They accused whites of being racists, and a BIG backlash is brewing among american citizens.\n\nI've been raised around the hispanic culture and they're fine people.  I work with them daily, and my company has a center in MX City.  Actually, race has never been an issue around here, for the most part.  But this whole May 1st walkout is brewing some serious anger among Americans because they are demanding when they, quite honestly, should be humbly asking.  I've never seen anything like it.  I'm not racist, and even I'm getting dragged into the melee because I refuse to allow an illegal any latitude for their illegal entry.  And instantly people call me a racist or an "arrogant American."\n\nWe gave an amnesty in the 80's and everybody was ok with it.  The idea was that we're going to clear up the illegal issue and keep the new illegals out.  Well, now we have an illegal population of about 10 million...so amnesty is a big POS.  Enforcement is the answer.
568787
the refusal to assimilate; why should we bend over backwards to accommodate foreigners? no other country does that---and the whole illegal entry factor; it's not hard to get into this country, all we ask is that you pay your money and go through the established procedures; sure that could take a while but SO WHAT! lots of people have done that for a long time and effectively earned the right to live and work here. unfortunately i have had experiences like this and it really toasts my waffle! why should citizens of this great nation have to be subjected to such frustration! i don't remember reading that amendment in the Constitution...
171529
As far as the immigration issue, I have no problem with anyone wanting to immigrate, but why all of the sneaking over? Does it just take so long to go through all of the red tape or something? Just curious. I didn't see any of the previous postings, but you are completely correct! Unless you are of American-Indian descent, TECHNICALLY none of the rest of our bloodlines originated in what is now the United States! It frustrates and saddens me to see that people are still so ignorant. Even more so when I see them passing these beliefs and attitudes down to their young children! I think there is no greater crime than that! Where did the innocence of youth go? Way to go though. Great topic!
132757
I think we, as a nation, are being hypocrits regarding immigration.  This nation was built on the hard work of immigrants and we should open our arms and our minds to those who wish to be Americans now.\n\nIt's very sad what's happening to our nation. We were once representative of that great icon, the Statue of Liberty.  Now we look like small little people with small little minds fretting over our land as if we were Draconian lords.\n\nIn short, I am in favor of immigration.  By the way, I am also Cherokee ....... if these people who say "no immigration" want their way, I want them all to go back to whatever nation their ancestors came from.  Let them give my people back this fine land.  By their own standards, that is what would be just and honest and fair.
111875
When looking at this issue here in this forum I was beginning to think that all America had gone crazy by only really considering 2 categories.  Citizen or Illegal.  There is a third category and that is Alien Residents who are in the country legally.  There is a large difference and I am glad that you to have noticed it as well.  All of us started out as immigrants at one point of history or another.  Even the Native Americans are said to have come from somewhere else, however as they settled the land centuries before any one else they are the only ones who we can say did not immigrate to this country, or Hemisphere for that matter.  As we are in the middle of trying to hammer out legislation for immigrants while we are doing this we should look at the laws that have been on the books since the 1920s and think about updating them.  I would favor them making it against the Federal Law to be an Illegal, however I would not support housing them in Federal Prison for any time and costing us even more than what we are spending now, deportation should be enough for first offense.  I do not feel that those who have assisted Illegals in a humanitariun sense should not be guilty of any crime, however those that profit from bringing them to the country or taking advantage of them when they are here should be punished.  There need to be many things done to update our system and make it have some teeth.  We also must as a nation realize it is not just a Hispanic problem we have illegals from every country in the world and we need to be aware of it and aknowledge it being that way.
288140
If it adds new skills and techniques to our troops on handling civilians at the border, then I'm all for it. I think people should come to this country legally. Get the proper paperwork done and you can come in! It's not fair to the other people who got in legally.
388746
On immigration, they have about the same ideas as Bush. You should check their website, if you really want to know. There are no party spokespeople here.
551264
Well....all those people that live here illegally have had a taste of freedom, perhaps they should take it back to Mexico or wherever they come from and spread it around. We as a nation are not responsible for cleaning up the world. Sometime people need to stand up for themselves instead of running to another country and enabling their country of origin to continue with their corruption with the funds they send back.
165635
Oh I see you decided to speak English again. Good for you. \n\nTo answer your question: I think this illegal immigrant situation became a monster slowly. In other words, at first only a few hundred people were sneaking across the border daily. But over time, it has progressed, kind of inconspicuously, into a few thousand or more per day. It is one of those things that most people don't notice until one day we wake up and see that our world has totally changed and we didn't see it coming because it happened so slowly over time.\n\nBut once it was brought to our attention, we found that we needed to do something about it. No double morality here.\nIllegal is illegal,whether it be drugs, underage drinking, or a parking ticket. If it is illegal, then I am having a problem understanding what the big misunderstanding is.
244979
ok.First of all I don't support illegal immigration.I want amnesty for the illegals that are in the country right now.And I also want border security to stop more from comingThey are already here,can you imagine the chaos it would cause if they were all deported and then applied to come here legally.CHAOS!And thats not even mentioning deporting them.CHAOS I tell you.They have broken the law,that I cannot make an excuse for.So fine them.\nSome of these ppl have been here for decades,they have children that are Americans.They own homes and have paid their taxes.They are productive members of society.As long as they haven't broken any (other) laws.Leave them alone.And let them stay.\n\n\n*stepping down from soapbox*
550277
This is the country of free speech. I feel sorry for the people who are trying to escape to a better place but they\nneed to do it legally. The people who are pro-illegals\nalready have it good. They live here. I say if they want to\nsupport illegals then they should whip out their wallets and let the\ngood times roll.
290699
i do... the usa call themselves the land of the brave and free isn't it, so...be brave to take illegals as they do the jobs your own people don't want to , feel free to welcome them as you can learn from them , it is called multucultural exchange...
303739
Honey, you are barking up the wrong tree by trying to rationalise this problem with those who are willingly crossing our borders and breaking our laws.  Why SHOULD they change this behaviour?  Why SHOULD they fix their own country's system?  They can come here, illegally, but no one seems to mind.. they can work for cash and pay no taxes and take that money back to Mexico.. AND they can apply for and RECIEVE public assistance..INCLUDING welfare CHECKS.. and all of THAT money goes back to Mexico as well.  WE are funding their country and their government only has to tell them HOW.   Don't think for a minute that this is fantasy.. I worked for the department of Social Services in California and I was REQUIRED to give them the benefits even though they were illegal.. and I was FORBIDDEN to even SAY the words 'green card' to them. why?  because it might OFFEND them!!  Needless to say, I didn't stay long.. but I did take the time to talk to many of my clients.. yes, the illegal ones [after all, they made up 90%!! of my case load] and they explained the entire process to me.. all the time LAUGHING at how STUPID we Americans are to ALLOW them to do it.  So, I know what I'm talking about.
119359
I think most of those that come here do so for the opportunity  or country has a history of providing and bear no contempt or hate for the US or the people. There are those that come here to exploit and take advantage of the US but they are a minority. I think its the ones that can't get in, are jealous or are trouble makers in general that give the perception of the bad immigrant or US haters. I do agre with you though, love or get the **** out.
624130
I don't know about the Border Patrol, however, I am dead certain that big business and Bush want to leave a 'hole in the fence'.  That is why they keep pooh-pooh ing barriers at the border.  Those would remain even when public attention is elsewhere, whereas staffing could drop easily over time.
254842
The government needs to make damn sure that they don't make the same mistakes they did last time they gave amnesty as obviously the problem only grew worse by now.  I don't agree with amnesty, myself, but I believe the borders need to be locked down very tightly to stem the flow of illegal immigrants and go from there.  Lock the doors and then deal with what is already in the country, but make sure no more come in without going through the correct immigration procedures.  \n\nAs for this forum, I would say that there is some pretty strong racism from both sides of the issue - the illegal immigrants can be as bad in this aspect and worse at times than the other side. I feel that the ones who are often screaming "racism" are often the worst racists, themselves, but they are too emotionally charged and/or ignorant to recognize that.