I read these verses from the bible again and again and I find them accuratly describing the US, why not to admit and escape?\nRev 14:8  Another angel, a second, followed, saying, "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who made all nations drink the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality." \nRev 16:18  And there were flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, and a great earthquake such as there had never been since man was on the earth, so great was that earthquake. \nRev 16:19  The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell, and God remembered Babylon the great, to make her drain the cup of the wine of the fury of his wrath\nRev 18:3  For all nations have drunk the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality, and the kings of the earth have committed immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich from the power of her luxurious living."
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Yes and no.\nIt's a system, not one nation.\nIt's the Roman system of the Vatican...which has polluted many nations...including America.\n\nThat city is Rome. Russia will drop a nuke on her.\n\nIf you want to know more, click here...\nhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/bibletruths_forbelievers/
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No sin here, weird but no sin that I can see. God gives freedom here. Heb 13:4 is good. I don't see anything that looks life defilement. Also read the Song of Solomon, pretty heavy stuff. Just don't invite the neighbors over, that would be taking it to far.\n\nYou need to look into why God damns? I don't think you get it.
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Sounds cool, but it isn't true, at least a lot of it anyway.  There is nothing in the bible that shows where the Garden of Eden was located.  People have placed in different locations from the few clues that the bible provides (5 rivers, for example).  Those places include present-day Iraq, but also Iran, Israel, present-day Syria, and (believe it or not), present-day America.  But the truth is no one knows.\n\nAs to the Koran passage you quoted, it simply isn't there.  The Koran is avaiable online, so check the source cite below.  But Chapter 9, verse 11 has nothing to do with an eagle, or for that matter with Arabia.  (And while we are on the subject, Arabia is NOT Iraq.)  But the actual language at 9:11 has to do with idolators, and frankly isn't that surprising or special: "[9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know."\n\nIn other words, the Koran is telling Muslims that they should accept people who repent their sins, return to the faith, and give charity.  It's the same thought that the bible tells to Christians and Jews.\n\nSorry to burst your bubble, but the truth is important.
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Humanity has yet to fully recover from the Christian movement. While the Bible does contain a lot of good messages for people to care for one another, other parts of it are a bunch of garbage. I mean think about it, assuming God exists, why would he only grant "authority" to some administration centered in the Vatican? It's A Scam. We don't need fancy stories or mundane, repetetive procedures every Sunday. We need love and respect for one another.
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There's a passage I got memorized,\n                       seems appropriate for this\n                       situation: Ezekiel 25:17. "The path\n                       of the righteous man is beset on\n                       all sides by the inequities of the\n                       selfish and the tyranny of evil\n                       men.  Blessed is he who, in the\n                       name of charity and good will,\n                       shepherds the weak through the\n                       valley of darkness, for he is truly\n                       his brother's keeper and the finder\n                       of lost children.  And I will\n                       strike down upon thee with great\n                       vengeance and furious anger those\n                       who attempt to poison and destroy\n                       my brothers.  And you will know my\n                       name is the Lord when I lay my\n                       vengeance upon you."\n\nAlthough its a very inaccurate quote if you actually check that passage in a bible.
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I cannot make sense out of your question, but if you are asking if these natural disasters were "acts of God," the answer is emphatically - NO!  He does not ever wish such things on people, nor would he do anything like these without prior warnings.  \n\nA good example to study is that of Noah.  Yes, that was a major "natural disaster," but the people had been warned again and again, and chose not to listen.  Read Chapters 6-9 of Genesis.  Also note what Jesus said at Matthew 24:37-39 - "Just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be.  For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away"
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If you read all of the verses that you quoted, you would've found your answer there.  FYI- the babies/children (all people who have not reached the age of accountability) were safe - they went to heaven.\n\nGod sent the flood because of the fallen angels that left heaven and came to earth to have children with the daughters of Adam and Eve. The offspring of this union were the Nephilim or giants (Genesis 6:1-4 and Jude v6). This was an attempt by Satan to pollute the blood line of Adam and Eve which is the same blood line that Jesus Christ came from (Luke 3:23-38).\n\nADDED on March 1st - Ok.  If you studied your Bible you would know the answer to your question.  Yes,God is a loving God. The Bible also says that He is a God of wrath.  God is a jealous God.  God made man in His image - where do you think man got all of this from?  Why are you angry?  Because God gets angry with us when we openly sin and show complete disregard for Him. God can do whatever and not have to answer to anyone - but, everything that He does has a beautiful and perfect purpose.  Since we humans have a finite sense of time (everything really), we can't grasp His wonderful plan. " Those who reject Him receive the punishment they deserve (John 3:18,36). Those who believe are receiving far more. No one, though, is being punished beyond what they deserve. So, this is fair. I invite you to read the parable found in Matthew chapter 20, verses 1-16.  In our minds, that is not fair. It is an example, though, of God being gracious to some and fair to everyone."
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Satan’s fall from heaven is described in Isaiah 14:12-14 and Ezekiel 28:12-18. While these two passages are referring specifically to the king of Babylon and the King of Tyre, they also reference the spiritual power that was behind those kings - Satan. In regards to when Satan fell, these passages describe why Satan fell, but they do not specifically say when the fall occurred. What we do know is this: the angels were created before the earth (Job 38:4-7). Satan fell before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden (Genesis 3:1-14). Satan’s fall, therefore, must have occurred somewhere after the time the angels were created and before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Whether Satan’s fall occurred a few minutes, hours, or days before he tempted Adam and Eve in the garden, Scripture does not specifically say.\n\n \n\nWhy did Satan fall from Heaven? Satan fell because of pride. He desired to be God, not to be a servant of God. Notice the many "I will..." statements in Isaiah 14:12-15. Ezekiel 28:12-15 describes Satan as an exceedingly beautiful angel. Satan was likely the highest of all angels, the most beautiful of all of God's creations. Satan was not content in his position. Instead, Satan desired to be God, to essentially "kick God off His throne" and take over the rule of the universe. Satan wanted to be God, and interestingly enough, that is what Satan tempted Adam and Eve with in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3:1-5). How did Satan fall from Heaven? Actually, a fall is not an accurate description. It would be far more accurate to say that God cast Satan out of Heaven (Isaiah 14:15; Ezekiel 28:16-17).\n\nPeople's beliefs of Satan range from the silly to the abstract: from a little red guy with horns who sits on your shoulder urging you to sin, to an expression used to describe the personification of evil. The Bible, however, gives us a clear portrayal of who Satan is, and how he affects our lives. Put simply, the Bible defines Satan as an angelic being who fell from his position in heaven due to sin and is now diametrically opposed to God, doing all in his power to thwart God's purposes for humanity.\n\nSatan was created as a holy angel. Isaiah 14:12 possibly gives Satan’s pre-fall name as Lucifer. Ezekiel 28:12-14 describes Satan as having been created a cherubim, and was apparently the highest created angel. He became arrogant in his beauty and status, and decided he wanted to sit on a throne above that of God (Isaiah 14:13-14; Ezekiel 28:15; 1 Timothy 3:6). Satan’s pride led to his fall. Notice the many “I will…” statements in Isaiah 14:12-15. Because of his sin, God threw Satan out of heaven.\n\nSatan became the ruler of this world that functions apart from God, and the prince of the power of the air (John 12:31; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Ephesians 2:2). He is an accuser (Revelation 12:10), a tempter (Matthew 4:3; 1 Thessalonians 3:5), and a deceiver (Genesis 3; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Revelation 20:3). His very name means adversary or “one who opposes.” Another name used for Satan, the devil, means “slanderer.”\n\nEven though he was cast out of heaven, he still seeks to elevate his throne above God. He counterfeits all that God does, hoping to gain the worship of the world and foment opposition to God's kingdom. Satan is the ultimate source behind every false cult and world religion. Satan will do anything and everything in his power to oppose God, and those who follow God. However, Satan’s destiny is sealed – an eternity in the lake of fire (Revelation 20:10).\n\nThe Nephilim (fallen ones, giants) were the offspring of sexual relationships between the sons of God and daughters of men in Genesis 6:1-4. There is much debate as to the identity of the "sons of God" (see our article on this subject here). I believe the correct view is that they were fallen angels (demons) who mated with human females and/or possessed human males and then mated with human
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Ah ...the soft-shoe routine you can get from people who believe in the "inerrant" Bible - when a text clearly states something so awful that it must be re-re-reinterpreted.\n\nSo .. a word from our sponsor:\nIsiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and CREATE EVIL: I the LORD do all these things."\n\nAnd now let's hear the various (laughable) renditions of what "evil" means "in this context," or "the actual Hebrew means something totally different." - obviously it couldn't just mean "evil," .... could it? \n\nThere is no one answer to your question. Current theology, in a vain attempt at sidestepping the mystical trend that produced the citation above, holds that God did NOT do what He says He did, or that it's a "mystery to be revealed in the end to us all."
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The Christian disciple Jude wrote about them when he mentioned “the angels that did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place.” (Jude 6) Why did they come to the earth? What wrong desire did Satan put in their heart to get them to leave the fine positions they had in heaven?\n\nThe Bible lets us know when it says: “The sons of the true God began to notice the daughters of men, that they were good-looking; and they went taking wives for themselves, namely, all whom they chose.” (Genesis 6:2) Yes, the angels put on fleshly bodies, and they came to earth to have sexual relations with beautiful women. But such love affairs were wrong for angels. This was an act of disobedience. The Bible indicates that what they did was just as wrong as the homosexual acts of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. (Jude 6, 7) What resulted?\n\nWell, babies were born to these angels and their wives. But the babies were different. They kept growing bigger until they became giants, yes, wicked giants. The Bible calls them “mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame.” These giants tried to force everyone to be bad as they were. As a result, the Bible says that “the badness of man was abundant in the earth and every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only bad all the time.” (Genesis 6:4, 5) So Jehovah brought the Flood. The giants, or “Nephilim,” and all the wicked people were drowned. But what happened to the angels that had come to earth?\n\nThey did not drown. They put aside their fleshly bodies and returned to heaven as spirit persons. But they were not allowed to become part of God’s organization of holy angels again.\n\nSince the time of the Flood, God has not permitted these demon angels to take on fleshly bodies, so they cannot directly satisfy their unnatural sexual desires. Yet they can still exercise dangerous power over men and women.
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Your question is what lessons are learned from the story of Lot. I know that there are some gross situations here, but let me explain my take on this story. I am a Christian though not an expert and have been listening to this story all of my life. Lot chose the well watered plains of Sodom and Gamorrah - he was given a choice, and he chose the "easy" path instead of following God's plan. He went into the cities and became involved in the sinful atmosphere of these cities (knowing that God would not approve). He had raised his family there, so when God had had enough and sent the angels to warn Lot to get out, he had a very hard time convincing his family (let alone others) that they needed to leave. When Lot offered his daughters in lieu of the angels, Lot knew God would punish him for allowing any acts of homosexuality to take place (it is an abomination to God). Lot had sinned by not following God, and the sin followed him throughout the remainder of his life - this teaches me that when you sin (even though God firgives sin), the effects of that sin hurt you personally, it hurts your family (wife and daughters), and it destroys your testimony before others (especially the unsaved whom we are trying to live an example for). If you trace all of the descendants of Lot (even the descendants of his daughters) you find no outstanding people living for God. The original sin of Lot's turn from God by going into the cities and sin, provided a direction for the outcome of all the other happenings in his life. He never regained control of his life, and, as a result, was never used of God for the furtherance of God's work. Lot was human just like you and I, and if it weren't for the grace of God, I could be in the same boat. Any time we turn from God's ways and direction, we are sinning, and we will reap the results of what we have sewn.
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Lev.18\n[22] Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.\n\nLev.20\n[13] If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.\n\nRom. 1\n[26] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:\n[27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
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Dear Allen T,\n I hear by subjugate your reality and implant my own.\n\nDid you know that the "Bible" has been changed over the past two millennia. Since the Catholic church has left out the good parts of the "Bible" we no longer know what is true, but in the name of Jesus, Christians have destroyed other faiths of the world to supplant their own beliefs on other nations and people which in the "Bible" God says do not JUDGE others or their way of belief.\nAnd I quote nowhere in Genesis does it state that the entire world was governed by God.\n\nIf we did find Atlantis it would rewrite everything we know.\n\n"And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived and bore him Enoch: and he built a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch."\nGenesis 4:16&17\n\nNod means to wounder in ancient Hebrew coptic scripts. And we have yet to find "EDEN". AND ENOCH WAS A GOOD PRE-FLOOD CIVILAZATION AND IRRONICLY THE CHILDREN ARE OF CAIN............\n\n*stps off soap box* "Thank you. I'll be back next week." bows and exits stage right.
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Doesn't the bible preach acceptance and love... doesn't it also say that our job isn't to judge, because he will do that?\nMy question is, why worry about people being gay, when we can't take care of our own citizens... and parts of the world hate us so much they are willing to die to kill us?  Is it really that important?  I don't think so!
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It really doesn't make reference, other than a story within a story, here...\n\nEnglish: King James Version \n  Isaiah 14 \n\n11.  Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. \n12.  How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! \n13.  For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: \n14.  I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. \n15.  Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. \n16.  They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; \n17.  That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners? \n18.  All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house. \n19.  But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet. \n\nSome versions don't even mention the word "lucifer", compare some of the texts side by side here:  http://unbound.biola.edu/index.cfm?method=searchResults.doSearch¶llellist=kjv_apocrypha_ucs2,basic_english,webster,nrsva_ucs2,,,,,&displaylist=1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1&search=Lucifer&book=23O&from_chap=14&hide_context=1\n\nAlso, form Wikipedia...\n\nIt is a modern and late Medieval misconception that the word Lucifer is synonymous with Satan; an angel, who when he falls from Heaven becomes Satan, the embodiment of evil and enemy of God. Lucifer is generally considered to have been a prominent archangel in heaven, prior to having been motivated by pride to rebel against God, but this is also false.\n\nLucifer was originally a Latin word meaning "light-bearer" (from lux, "light", and ferre, "to bear, bring"), a Roman astrological term for the "Morning Star", the planet Venus. The word Lucifer was the direct translation of the Greek eosphorus ("dawn-bearer"; cf. Greek phosphorus, "light-bearer") used by Jerome in the Vulgate. In that passage, Isaiah 14:12, it referred to one of the popular honorific titles of a Babylonian king; however, later interpretations of the text, and the influence of embelishments in works such as Dante's The Divine Comedy and Milton's Paradise Lost, led to the common idea in Christian mythology and folklore that Lucifer was a poetic appellation of Satan.\n\nIn Romanian mythology, Lucifer (Romanian: Luceafăr) means the planet Venus and some other stars. It is also linked with Hyperion and he is the one who animate the bad spirits (but not the Devil itself).\n\nCheck this out to see more:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer
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Did you know Babylon is the Great city which is  New York and the "whore of Babylon" is the statue of Liberty. When it state babylon "IS FALLEN, IS FALLEN" THATS THE WTC "IS FALLEN TWICE IS BECAUSE BOTH TOWERS OF BABYLON WERE COMING DOWN. Just like Babylon of old the tower of the world power fell. then it goes on to say that a angel took a stone and cast it in the sea and that Great city was seen no more.\n\nAnd no the want close the borders.
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Joshua.  People like you crack me up.  Really!  You argue about biblical-specific entries and events as if they were factual and undeniable.  "written 4000 years ago"  On what?  Notebook paper?  Do you have some copies of those 4000 year old writings?  Do you have some secret text that nobody else has ever seen?  Are you on heroin or acid?  What's your trip?  None of the authors of the NT witnessed the alleged resurrection.  No matter how you stretch it, there are no actual accounts of it.  Most of the NT was created and written in 320AD under the direction of Constantine the Great, and its puirpose was NOT for historic accuracy.  Its purpose was to create a doctrine at the Council of Nicea that all factions of religious doctrine could agree upon and pull everyone together.  Why does it appear that there only a few people that post here regularly who actually know this?  Is your only source of "history" the Bible itself?  Are you crazy enough to use the Bible to prove the Bible?  Talk about illogic!\n\nThe original poster is correct -- if the notion of god portrayed in the bible is accurate, then there is no need for "free will" -- God already knows how things turn out.  He already knows who chooses free will and who doesn't choose free will, how they act, and who the sinners are and who goes to hell.  He already knows the choices people made in the past and what they'll make in the future.  He already knows how things will turn.  Already been there.  Outside of the time line?  Fine, state it however you wish.  It's still the same.  He's all knowing.  He knows how the "souls" will turn out. There's no need for a test on earth.\n\nThe question is not flawed at all.  Your assumption that the Bible is incontrovertible is flawed, and your statements of biblical myths as assertion are ridiculous.  It is one of hundreds of unprovable myths on this whole planet, full of fatal flaws, like the one this question raises.