We are all Christians, ONE IN CHRIST, so why are these Christians so mean to other Christians who don't read the KJV Bible? My family and I were evicted from an apartment in February, because the family we rented from was KJV ONLY Bible believers and we read the NIV Bible. \n\nMy husband and I were saved in Feb 2005 and we were baptized on June 28th, 2005 \nThese KJV ONLY Bible believers expected us to do whatever they said, and wanted us to do things that were not in our lease. They were very mean to us. \n\nIn the eviction letter they sent to us, the husband stated that he was “LORD OVER US” and in not so many words, implied that we were being evicted because we wouldn’t do whatever he wanted us to, regardless of whether or not it was in the lease or not, and regardless of whether or not we wanted to do what they wanted us to. We didn’t break any rules in our lease and or cause any problems. \n\nAll we did was love this family, and they threw us out in the middle of winter!  They never once showed love to us, yet my husband and I, consistently showed them love and hospitality. Praise Jesus, we have an awesome apartment and are very happy where we are now, but I can't seem to let go of the hurt that this family did to us. All because we read from a different bible? Can anyone help me to understand, and get over the hurt this family has caused me? \n\nJesus said, "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. John 13:34\n\nIf these KJV ONLY Bible believers are truly followers of Jesus, then why is there so much hatred against NIV Readers? We are all sinners, and we all read from different translations, but why are KJV ONLY Bible believers against everyone else that does not read the KJV Bible? \n\nPlease don’t go into elaborate detail outlining the difference between KJV and NIV. I already understand the difference. Thank You.
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I have ran into some of these KJ only folks before. They are arrogant in their belief that they are superior to others who do not believe as they do. The Bible says knowledge puffs up but love edifies. They believe that all English versions are corrupt except for the KJ version. First of any English version is not technically as accurate as the original Bible languages, Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. Secondly, they fail to realize the even the KJ has been thur several updates itself- just open a KJ up and look at the copyright page that will state various years of editions copyrighted. If some one is going to be so hard-lined that they will not tolerate others who have different view then themselves-best to save your breath and time and let god deal with them.
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Hold on, I'll read it.\n\nOK. The entire chapter is a prayer to God. It starts with the caption "a prayer of the afflicted, when he is overwhelmed and pours out his complaint before the Lord."\n\nThe person in Psalms would have been a Israelite (or Jew), not a Christian, but the purpose of this chapter is still relevant. \n\nWe have a relationship with God, and we are allowed to tell Him how we feel, but should do so respectfully. There is nothing wrong with telling God that you are mad, sad, hurt, or whatever. And when you think about it, what's the alternative? Lying to God? I wouldn't try to. \n\nTo answer the second question, this verse is not about a Christian (or a Jew) turning his back on anyone. There are situations when a Christian is entitled to sever ties, end a friendship, even end a marriage. If someone murders your child, God does not expect you to be around that person or support that person. If your friend constantly gossips and back bites you even after you have talked about it several times, there is no requirement that you maintain a relationship with him/her. If your spouse has sex outside your marriage, you are permitted to divorce him/her. \n\nThere are a few things a Christian must do in cases like these, though. One is to forgive. The other is to not judge the person, only the behavior. Forgiveness doesn't mean that you have to trust, nor does it mean you withhold consequences (like jail, or divorce). It only means that you release the person from the spiritual punishment of holding a grudge, and in doing so, you free your self from the burden of holding a grudge.
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Because they cant read the original Hebrew for the Hebrew Scriptures, or the original Greek for the Christian's New Testament. Therefore they must rely on someone else's translation. \n\nRemember that modern translations are copyrighted, and the organizations that translated them make money when every book of their translation is sold. The KJV is so old, going back to 1611, that it has no copyright anymore, so it is free. That is why it accompanies many, if not all, computer Bible Programs.\n\nAlso keep in mind that the KJV was the only version available, and then the only version acceptable, to many denominations of Christianity for a very long time.\n\nPlease also remember that the person or organization who does a translation is biased, and their translation will reflect their own theology, regardless of whether or not a verse in the original actually says what they claim it says. No translation is totally right, and some are better, and some are worse, than others.
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im kinda curious why you keep on saying "you" instead of "they". you are pretty quick to point the finger here when really, your doing the same thing you accuse these other people for doing.  what makes all of your labeling and judgement on these people ok, but their labeling and judgement not ok?  now dont get me wrong, i think it gets pretty annoying when some christians feels they are higher and mightier than everyone else and in turn, they are so eager to cast the first stone and call out everything they feel is wrong.  i am a christian and always find myself quite a bit embarrassed when other christians, or self-presumed christians embarrass the faith, like in the example you gave.\n\nthis is just on a side note, but im thinking you have had a fair share of encounters with believers about religious topics.  and im guessing they all turned from peaceful conversation into heated debate which only adds fuel to your fire on not getting along with christians and  you viewing them in a negative way.  (this may  not be true, dont worry, in a way im not even directing this towards you,  i just have a few atheist friends with this problem so i thought id share this idea in hopes that it might open someones eyes who reads  this)  so think of yourself here.  and look  back on a specific argument you had.  i can  almost garuntee that you were so  quick not to accept whatever the believer had to say, just because of the  pride  in which you hold in being an atheist.  this allows for negativity to come into play and inevitable frustration on both ends causing for harsh words and you not accepting christians even more than before.\n\nthe christian idea is to spread the word  of God and show people how great the lord's love is and how it can change your life and especially your death.  christians do not aim at upsetting people and making them feel bad by pointing out everything that they do wrong.  christians know the love of god and want to show that to everyone, so they try to show you what you are doing wrong in the eyes of god and they  are wanting to help you turn from that.  you may even be the nicest person ever; youre caring, considerate, and just an overall good person.  the mistake that people make who are like this is that they believe they will enter the gates of heaven just for their deeds.  it clearly  states in the bible that salvation and the ticket to heaven is through jesus christ, and jesus christ only.  it even says no man's deeds will give  him  permission into heaven.\n\ni  realize i  got a bit off  topic here and i apologize,  i guess i just got a little caried away.\n\nanyway, i just ask that you dont label all christians just because there are one or two quacks that youve run into.  things like the example you brought up is really just embarrassing and ridiculous.
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It's easy to ignore.  Cause today God is different.  If they say otherwise, then they are the one's who are dishonest.  Why would selling your daughter as a sex slave be alright in one book, then suddenly bad the next?  Obviously something has changed here.  And I am sure that many will justify it by calling you Ignorant and say you don't know what the Bible really says (even though you just quoted it).  No matter how they turn, though, there is no rationalizing the Old Testament God with the New Testament God.\nGood to see you, btw.  ^_^
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Read this quickly, it may be censured by Tammy C.\n\nTammy C is now writing her own Bible. She quoted 1 Corninthians 6: 9-11 as condeming homosexuals. The actual word is effeminent; which is the greek word for incest; not homosexuals.\n\nAnyway, quoting Paul is disrespect for God and Jesus. Paul, himself, would not have wanted you to quote him or worship him by living your life according to him. Paul had no idea that his personal letters to Timothy, or Titus, or the Corinthians would someday be included in the "Book of God".  At the beginning of the second mil. about 1200 AD a group looked at about 150 scrolls and selected the 66 that would become  what we call the Bible.  \n\nIf you want to quote someone, quote Jesus. \n\nNow to answer your question. There is no place that condemns that particular thing. However, if causes disharmony it would be a sin. Why? Harmony is harmony; Disharmony is the only sin against God.\n\n PS. you had better read this quickly. It might be censured in a few minutes.\n\nMary W is writing her own Bible, too.  I am sick of religious leaders making up rules and interpretations of the Bible in order to build their empires and control people's lives.
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GodShew, could you please enlighten me (and hopefully other Christians) as to what Bible you are referring to when you come up with your questions/answers/comments. Sometimes you Bless ppl in the name of God, and sometimes it almost seems as though you are cursing His Word. Although this comment may seem offensive to you, that is not what I want to accomplish. I just truly want to know, where do you stand on the TRUE Word of God?\n\nWhy do you sometimes speak in "code?" If demons are putting this in your head, you are responsible for rebuking them. Since you know SOME truths about God's Word (even though many times you twist it, as is a characteristic of Satan and his demons), you are responsible for your actions, as it is my responsibility as a Christian to tell you that.
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Yes, I have compaired the NIV to the JKV the New KJV and the modern english Translation the American Standard version and the New American Standard version. I find all these are very similar, some are easier to read of course, but I always stuck with the King James for memorizing and teaching. I also used the NIV or some other modern version for my straight through reading, but have read the KJV through many times, but not as much as I used the other versions. \n\nI did notice some words were changed to make it appear to say something else, but when you read everything in context it is hard to take it out of context.  Especially when you looked at other passeges. \n\nI never liked or trusted the Schofield notes.\n\nI did buy one NIV study bible with notes and found it very desturbing because the scripture would be very plain, but the Scholars added their own intrepretation and even claimed that the Apostle or writer was wrong and did not understand their own scripture. \n\nPersonally, I feel it is better to use a bible without notes. That is just my opinion.
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The first time I read Isaiah 58, I cried.  And I'm misty reading it again just now.\n\nThis terribly sad Chapter is one of many oracles Isaiah was told to give the Jewish people.  The gist of the entire Chapter is this:  don't say with your mouth you love God, but prove with your actions you don't.  The people said they loved God and they even enjoyed seeking Him in prayer and fasting.  However, when they fasted, they did so for the wrong reasons and they indulged in physical pleasures and iniquity, such as refusing to pay their laborers.  God sees right through this hypocrisy and insists that Isaiah yell his condemnatory message from the rooftops.  The people hated him for it, just as they hated Jeremiah and the rest of the prophets.  And, of course, Jesus.\n\nYes, the world will be angered when you announce its iniquities as if you are blowing a trumpet.  Some, however, will be moved to repentance.  That's what encourages me.\n\nPeace and love in Jesus.
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I dont believe there are any versions outside of the original texts that are more accurate than the next. There are flaws in the 1611 KJV as well as the NIV and every other version... I dont like the NWT though because it deliberately changes text to fit the Jehovah's Witness doctrines. (if you dont believe the KJV has flaws, contact me and I'll be happy to share them with you)
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Well as far as the Bible I read it and I take it literally.  If I don't understand it I read the Strong's concordance. Whether it be in Hebrew or the Arabic translation, I read the translation and then understand it better. As far as the judging part I think we all do it one time of or another. It's wrong and we shouldn't do it, as we know. Being intolerable, again we all are one time or another, even unbelievers.  The ones who don't believe do think and criticize us a lot when we do human things, like judge, intolerance, gossip, or any other sin they can catch us in because it makes them feel better and possibly superior.  If we were perfect, we would be Jesus!
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My impression from the Christians on this site (myself included) is that we are trying to at least clear up the confusion about Christianity and the Bible, but whether or not anyone is interested I can't say. \n\n My personal feeling is that if you're going to reject something, say Christ, you should at least know about what you're rejecting.  Some people do understand and reject what the Bible says, but most don't understand at all and have all kinds of pre-conceived notions that they've learned from the culture at large.
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I think the site is very interesting. Conservative Christians believe the bible is the word of god, which is obviously not true, as people here have said, there is a difference between the old and new testiment... therefore they ignore parts of the bible, so people DO ignore some of gods words! I have always wondered how people decided what parts of the bible they to ignore and what parts they follow... and have posted a lot of questions about that.. no one has an answer, they say you feel it in your heart or through god... all this explains why in the past Christians were so racist and destroyed so many cultures... and why they are homophobic now. They are affraid to even question the bible, but by ignoring things (like the old testiment) they not only question, they judge and reject. The site is worth a read... as it comes to the conclusion.. lets just reject the lot!\nChristianity is like this weight dragged along by humanity, reinforcing old out dating philosophies. We drag them along.. and say to them... slavery is bad.. they argue its in the bible, its ok... then after time the accept, because its from society where they get their beliefs not the bible.
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Dear ES,\n\nI agree with you and I enjoy reading it and giving away copies of the Bible.\n\nLong before I read the Bible from cover-to-cover I intended to re-write the Bible and take out all of the sexist language.  What a joke that was!  When I finally read it I didn't change it but it sure did change me!\n\nOne wonderful thing I noticed was that I had the feeling that it was written directly to me, even though I know it was written long before I was born.  It reminds me of looking at a photograph when it seems as though the subject is looking right back at you.\n\nEven though there have been several translations of the Bible they all say just about the same thing.  However I've seen a few that are not divinely inspired and there is no sense of the Living Word of God.\n\nYes, it is fascinating to look at the prophecies and realize that Jesus was the only person who ever had his biography written before He was born!
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How long do you think it will be before a person or group successfully reassembles the bible to include recently discovered religious texts that they feel better suit modern times?\n\nNever.  For all practical purposes, the Bible as now been “set in stone.”\n\nWhat do you think about this?\n\nI believe that those who tend to be the loudest on this topic have either done the least amount of study or have very extensive time invested in their current belief.  Most claim as articles of fact pieces of information which are not true.  Less than one in one billion (if any) could give me that actual names of the men who met to determine which books and works were included in either Testament.  Yet they propose that these men were inspired by G-d to make these choices for all time.  They are seem to ignore that most works which were not included were systematically searched for and burned as heretical.  The mere fact that any remain after 2000 years is a miracle.\n\nWhat will the cultural/spiritual ramifications of this be?\n\nA continuation of our current position.  As beautiful as the KJV is to read, it is flawed.  This fact has been shown over and over again by scholars who do know the languages involved.  Yet look at the number of supporters that it has.  The sad part of this is that many who claim to understand the meaning of the KJV of the Bible (which is a very serious and metaphysical work) do not understand and cannot follow a simple Shakespearean play (which is light entertainment) that was written at about the same time.  What does this yell you about the ignorance of humans?  And ignorance is bliss.\n\nIf God is really solely responsible for the bible's contents why does he have hundreds of millions of Christians using different versions?  And how would a new version be any worse?\n\nThose humans who claim to be privileged to the plans or purposes of Divinity are deluded.  No human has that capability.  Only Divinity is perfect.  Humanity is arrogant, not understanding that the message is important, not the delivery of the message.  Those that must quote scripture for every answer (especially those claiming that it is the Word of G-d) are probably idolaters.  They have worshipped the written word instead of Divinity.  Each believing that they are right and all others wrong.  They are the cause of the fragmentation of the Church and people like them are usually too stubborn to see their own sins.\n\nA new version of the Bible is not needed.  These recently discovered and translated works should be made available to the widest reading audience for study and debate.  At least by those who are capable of understanding that Humanity did not have the message right then and still is lacking in understanding.  This is human nature.  Divinity is the only proper judge; and Divine Judgment, unlike human opinion and understanding, IS perfect.
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I can see why you feel this way. I am a Christian but the ones who say they are Christians are they using it as a name tag or are they really saved or not and living the walk instead of just talking the talk? People should not hide the fact that they are Christians or saved either for that matter. But we have to understand as Christians or saved people that sometimes the only Jesus people see is us! Are we doing and living the way Jesus would and treating others the way he would have .... WWJD What would Jesus do is something to ask ourselves before doing anything that may be questionable in God's eyes. Do we treat others the way Jesus would? Sorry I am rambling on here so i will get off my soap box now lol. Sorry! Real Christians should not have affairs either or ever. But we are not perfect either and can slip up and make mistakes and err but we need to get out of it and ask for forgiveness from God and move on and not live any longer that way ! God hates divorce and adultery!
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Whoa... It's interesting to note that sharing Christianity raises the hackles of so many people. You would think they are the only ones out there cramming their opinions down others throats. There's certainly enough answers on this one doing the same thing. This person is sharing their heart out of love for all of you, and the majority stomp on it.\n\nThe conflict does not lie with the individual, but the differing beliefs. Talk about respect...  that goes both ways. To be sure, there are some zealous Christians out there, but the majority simply are sharing what they have found to be true to those who are asking, especially in this forum, for some answers. A quick survey of some of the answers here on YA will show that most of the personal "attacks" are coming from the non-Christians. Even the avatars reflect the hatred that is so blatantly spread on here.\n\nDon't shoot the messenger who says things you do not want to face or hear. Just because their beliefs counters yours, or hits some spiritual nail on the head, it does not justify your anger to a complete stranger. The motives are readily apparent. Are you coming from a place of hatred or love. Most of the Christians here, and elsewhere, are operating on the love side... are you?