I am a substitute teacher, and I expected SOME misbehavior because of that. However, everyday I over hear teachers begging kids to sit down and be quiet. Students talk back, use abusive language, and refuse to follow instruction, knowing nothing will happen to them. \nThe teachers hands are tied. If sent to the office, a rough chewing out is the norm. Rarely is anything else done. If a parent is called in, 85% of the time, the teacher is to blame and the school Admin. stands behind the parent.\nGood teachers are leaving the teaching field!\nMy last job was in a high school. A group of boys were loud, abusive and refused to sit down and be quiet. I called the office 3 times for assistance. The 3rd time, I threatened to call the police. I then received help. \nStudents that want to learn are being deprived. An hour class receives, maybe, 20 minutes of instruction, with interuptions.\nI went to college to become a teacher, but have chosen a different course after viewing todays classroom.
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I blame the parents. They need to crack the yardstick. I got my rear smacked a few times and it made me be a better parent to my kids cause I didn't turn out to be some spoiled snot that thought I should be able to get away with everything. The T.V. and the web has plenty of filth that the kids have access to while Mom's at the career.Sorry, but if you plan a family I feel one parent should stay home and raise them and if you can't afford kids don't have them until you can or don't have more than one !
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In my opinion, the worst thing that ever happened to the public school system is the teacher's union.  People keep their jobs not because they are good teachers, but because they have seniority.  Many teachers really do not like teaching, and do not like their students, but they treat it like a factory job:  do it for the paycheck and benefits.\n\nIf a person does not really like students, does not enjoy helping them to prepare for their place in the adult world, does not like teaching, then they should not be there.  As to what you can do about it, you will need to talk to your parents.  Will they go to bat for you and try to get the school to change?  Will they consider another school, even if they have to pay tuition?  Can they home-school you?\n\nGood luck!  I suspect you are going to need it.
534651
Wow. Tricky situation. I feel for you. \n\nAre you able to find out about previous similar incidents at the school at what happened to the people involved? Or other schools, to work out what the precedent is in these cases.\n\nI wonder if the Citizen's advice bureau might be able to offer\nsome advice? \n\nYour point that you haven't been trained to deal with situations is a good one. At the end of the day, you only swore, no one got hurt. Sounds as if this is the first time you've been involved in anything like this, and, if you've put up with all the knocks and bangs from before you must be pretty devoted to the job. I hope they'll be lenient. \n\nGood luck.
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In a school I went to for my GED there was, as in nearly any class, detractive students.  It was actually suggested that we tell interrupting students to be quiet, and that the teacher would not have any qualms with that.  Depending on the individual, there are numerous tacks to take.  If this person is a brat they may be acting out, and even assaulting you.  Watch for clever verbal assaults.  One of the best responses I've found is: "It's unfortunate that you feel that way!"  If that doesn't work try: "Everyone in the class knows what you're up to."  You'll be surprised how well that works!
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I became a special education teacher because I grew up with a sister who has a significant developmental disability.  Now that we are both adults, I am her conservator, because our father is deceased and our mother is in poor health.  So I can relate to both sides of this equation.\n\nAs a family member, I know how important it is to know that my loved one is getting the concern and attention she needs and deserves.  I do get annoyed when the adult program she is now in doesn't communicate with me, especially when it is an issue that could have more easily been resolved had they been in touch with me as soon as the problem arose.\n\nAs a teacher, I make a sincere effort to communicate with the families of my students.  In addition to the classroom phone number,  I give everyone my email address and my voice mail number, and I send a communication notebook home with each child.  Ideally, I would be able to jot a quick note daily, but in reality, I have 10 students, and if I spend even 3 minutes writing to each person, that's 30 minutes a day.  I don't have a planning period like the general ed teachers do, and because of the special needs of my students, I cannot just send them out to recess or to the cafeteria;  I need to be present with them.  So I am literally on duty from the moment the kids arrive until they leave in the afternoon.  I only use the restroom after checking that my assistant is OK with managing things for 4 or 5 minutes.   Our kids need assistance with toileting, and about half are not toilet trained or have accidents.  About half my students do not communicate verbally, and nearly as many have significant behavioral issues, including physical aggression. And then there is the need to work on the specific IEP goals of each student;  with 10 students, we are responsible for implementing activities and collecting data on anywhere from 60 to 100+ objectives.   It's an incredibly intense and busy day, and if you haven't lived it, you really can't appreciate it.  \n\nAnd as I said, I have the legal responsibility for a sibling with a disability, as well as taking care of a mother who is in severe decline mentally and physically.  And I have a husband and children who need my attention and care.  And now and again, I would just like to have a couple of hours where I could just think about myself.  But I spend between 50 and 75 hours per week on classroom related activity, because I LOVE my job and I LOVE my students. \n\nSo - as far as your particular situation is concerned, knowing first hand the stresses of both family and of teachers - I would not make a judgment.  As I said, if I even take 3 minutes of time during the school day to write a note to each parent, I have spent 30 minutes of my instructional day, which is 30 minutes that I am not teaching anyone.  (And time yourself - you can't write much in 3 minutes, especially if you are supervising 10 kids with special needs at the same time.) \n\nI do try to give the benefit of the doubt to the families of my students when they are not exactly considerate or politically correct in their communications with me.  I also try to do the same when the residential and adult programs involved with my sister communicate.  We are all human, with lives outside the immediate moment, and none of us is without fault.  So perhaps, when you are able to communicate in a calm and unemotional way, you could ask the teacher to clarify what she meant.  Try something along the lines of "I understood you to say that I shouldn't make waves because my son's IEP was nearly taken away.  Is that a correct interpretation, or did I misunderstand?"  And please be open to the possibility that you did not understand what she meant.  Life is full of miscommunication, even between people who know each other well;  communication is a two-way street, and both sides need to keep the roads open.
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You don't say what the teacher was saying that you took to be "bad", but, that's not really the point here, anyway. The point is - why did you get kicked out of class? A teacher doesn't kick a student out of class for HAVING an opinion, even a dissenting one. A student is removed from class because of the WAY they expressed that opinion. I would venture a guess that the teacher's comments angered you (maybe rightfully so), and you spoke out in a manner considered to be inappropriate and/or disrespectful - and you were told to leave the classroom.\n\nIf, after hearing the teacher's comments, you raised your hand, and gave your opposing opinion in a clear, concise, non-yelling, intelligent manner, it's highly unlikely that you would have been told to leave. If, however, you interrupted the teacher, yelled or otherwise raised your voice, and ranted & raved, it is understandable that the teacher felt that your outburst was disruptive to the class, and this is why you were told to leave.\n\nYes, there is a right to free speech - but that doesn't mean that we can yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater just for the hell of it. In exercising our right to free speech, we still need to be aware of our surroundings. You may have had some very valid points and arguments against the teacher's comments, but they were lost because of the manner in which you attempted to present them.\n\nIf you feel that the teacher's comments were predjudicial, bigoted, or sexist, then you have every right to file a complaint with your school's administration and/or the school board. However, unless the teacher was directing these comments specifically to you, as an individual, then it is unlikely they will find that the teacher is guilty of bonafide discrimination. He'll probably be given a light warning to tone it down in the future, keep his opinions to himself,  and stick to the curriculum.\n\nSo far as you are concerned, use this incident as an opportunity to hone your debating skills. They will serve you well in the future.\nEveryone HAS a voice, but, it's those who know how to USE that voice effectively that will go far in their lives.
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I understand your frustration.  I have taught high school for 8 years and it is very discouraging at times to see the situations that exist in the classroom.  First of all, there is a mandate that Special Education students be mainstreamed into the general classroom population.  I have had a class of 34 students with 9 Spec. Ed. students (this is becoming more and more typical).  There are supposed to be teacher's aides to help in classes like that, but school budgets are spent so unwisely, at times, that there is no money for a teacher's aide for every teacher with a significant amount of Spec. Ed. students (who either have a learning disability, a behavioral disability, or an emotional disability).  This leaves the teacher and the students at a disadvantage.  Teachers now use more time on class management than on class instruction.  And, it's not just because of Spec. Ed. students.  For some reason many students like to "dumb down" on their own as to not be ridiculed by their peers for being too smart, a nerd, or a "lame".  School administration look at teachers with disdain and often let go of teachers with too high of a failure rate, so many teachers, when presented with a class or classes that do not produce on the expected level then create a curriculum that they feel the students have a chance to pass, even if it does not prepare a student to be on level.  Our educational system is in deep need of reforms that work, not just reforms that look good on paper but have no substance or effectiveness in the classroom or to the students.  I try to prepare students for high school and beyond, whether they are college bound, interested in vocational training, or ready to work once they graduate.  Teaching is a many tiered profession (teacher, counselor, mentor) if children are to be educated properly.  I worry about the same things you do, but I also know that the big decisions about education often do not rest upon  teachers' shoulders, but on an administration that is often too long out of the classroom to remember or know the things that work and the things that do not.  I only hope that it gets better before it continues getting worse.
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Well, it wouldn't hurt once in a while, but teachers like to VENT during their fee time and cannot always do that with the vice-principal around.   Once when the vice-prin. was in the teachers lounge, i happened to say something negative about the principal not about him personally but about how some rules were not being enforced consistently.  The next day the principal saw me in the hall and said hello, then casually added, "by the way if you have any constructive criticism, feel free to come by my office!!!"\nI was angry that what i thought had been a private conversation went directly to the principal.  since that day i do not trust veeps.
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This happen to me in jr. high.  I told my mom,  she said, " the teacher must of really wanted you to go, maybe there was something you could of learned that now you missed out on. "  Don't worry about the teachers threat.  I did and had a knot in my stomach,  my teacher just wanted the best for me, and thought the old way of do it else would work.  The only misery I have is wondering what I missed out on learning, even if it was a lesson or two.  Every lesson is something to grow on.  So Just ignore your teachers bad method.  Nothing will happen.
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It depends, I had a teacher in Fifth grade, I was gonna say acted like a Drill Sergant, but in reality he was much worse.  He would throw books, flip desks, and I even saw him slam a classmate into a wall after school.  Granted I was a problem child and so was the other but if they would have had a camera in that classroom I am sure he would not have been teaching.  In any case he left bystanders in fear.\n\nIn High School I found more of a group mentality, where they behaved like dogs.  Typically it was not the biggest, toughest kids starting fights or picking on people, what I found is the little rats that hang out with the big dog are the problem.  They picked on me because I was usually walking home alone 2 hours or so after school ended because I had a problem with authority.  I made an easy target for 12 or more kids hanging out, the little one would make stupid comments, after ignoring the comments they got physical and started pushing, I continued to ignore for while.  Soon they gathered around, making it clear that I was not going forward without confrontation, what they really wanted was humiliation, not that it isn't humiliating enough stay after school everyday after being kept in the office on suspension, yes everyday.\n\nA couple of them grabbed me and held my arms while one of the smaller one decided he was going to start punching.  Not quite sure what I did to this day that they hated me like that.  After 4 or 5 punches I wriggled my right arm loose grabbed my direct assaulter and head butted him, this was when the big guy stepped in.  He punched me a couple times upside my head, I was hurt pretty bad, so I started attacking eveything and everyone around me.  It was right then that a car load of High School Seniors went by, I didn't know them but they ran up in the middle of everything and stopped the fight.  They told the group that if they wanted to beat me up that they were gonna have to do it one at a time and they were gonna watch to make sure no one else got involved.  After that the bullies had no interest in fighting me, in fact a few years later after I dropped out, I would have been a senior.  I saw a number of the bullies outside of a football game, and one of them made a comment again, I thought for sure that I was going to have to fight someone.  Then low and behold out of the back of the crowd it was the big dog saying you don't wanna mess with him he's Looney Tooney.\n\nSo not always.
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You should have approached the teacher that actually did it, to try and get them to come forward on their own.  If that was not something that they were willing to do, then really you should have felt no guilt in getting them in trouble.  A suspension and quiting without notice will follow you to your next job, and only make things harder for you in the future.  You have to be your own best advocate.
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You need to arrange a meeting with the teacher immediately to address this - have another person with you, and keep notes of what was said.  Don't go in all guns blazing, be polite but firm and explain your concerns in a dignified manner.  If you do not get anywhere with the teacher submit a formal written complaint to the head teacher and ask for a meeting with him/her to disucss your concerns and what can be done.  Take notes of everything and copies of all letters/details of phone calls.  Take notes of anything your child tells you and of any changes you notice in your child behaviour - reluctance to go to school, nightmares, bedwetting, acting out of character. The teacher has behaved unreasonably, but give them a chance to give their version as you have so far only heard one side.  As I said - make notes of everything, the more documentation you have the stronger your case if you do need to take this any further. It's hard to stay calm and rational in this situation, I know but you've a better chance of a positive outcome if you do!
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You definitely have a right to talk to a principal; they may be able to explain to the teacher that they need to change their methods.  If that doesn't work, you, your classmates, and/or your parents could talk to the principals and the school board of your area.  I know I've had horrible teachers like that.  I wish you the best.
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Sometimes you have a teacher you just absolutely hates. She doesn't want to help you, she doesn't want to explain things. She seems to be so hung up on discipline and "No talking" that it's all you every hear from her.\nBut you know what, maybe she has a very difficult group of children in class - a group who are on the border of being out of control - and the only way to handle such a group is to be "too" strict. \nTake a look at your class (OK, I know you all hate her, but try to look at the class as if you're on the outside). Are there any kids there who are rowdy and unbehaved? Are there any kids who don't pay attention to her, and then waste everyone's time by asking unnecessary (or silly - really SILLY) questions? Some teachers are not very good at handling these kind of students, and the only way they know is to keep everyone quiet, and answer all questions with a "Find out on your own". Or maybe she's just so fedup with having to deal with these difficult students that she sees al students as being obnoxious. Why does this happen? Because children will always be children, and there will always be the ones who send teachers up the walls.\nWhat can you do? Go talk to her on a quiet day, at a time that she should be relaxed. A nice not-too-hot day when everyone seems to be in a good mood. Tell her you are really in a fix and really need to find some answers. And that you value her answers far more than another student's answers. Remind her that students don't know how to explain something as well as a teacher does. Boost her a little - make her feel good. And maybe, just maybe, you could get a little compassion from her. \nBut, if she really is a .... not so nice teacher (and don't use the b.. word - it makes it harder for you to sit in her class if you think of her as a b...)Well, then maybe you could get your whole class to have a chat with a student's councelor or someone at your school - very confidential, of course. I can't say they will be able to help much, but if they know how the students really feel, it could help to get her "removed" from her position.\nGood luck, I really hope you can solve your problem. It sure isn't cool to study with a teacher like that!!!
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If your parents beat you, and its not just a little punishment kind of thing, you need to talk to a counselor at school and get this taken care of. You shouldn't talk in class a lot. You are there to learn. You have many hours in the day to talk after school. I know talking is fun and great, but in school, you can't. Don't give your parents a reason to be mad.
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Don't you hate it when people say listen carefully instead of listening themselves. People suck.\nAnd besides, it was the correct answer. The teacher got it wrong. Teachers suck.
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Try being a little bit more strict, not to the point of being harsh though. Just let them know that you are their teacher, and they need to stay on task. Also be consistent with your punishings. For instance, if one week you punish a lot of children for talking, and the next week you slack off a little bit, then they may get the idea that its okay to talk whenever they want to. Hope this helps. =)