People say that Seth is the name of the angel of death.  I always thought it was the name of Adam and Eve's son.  Am I missing something here?
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A question without name-calling!  I love it!\nSeth was one of the seven archons in the gnostic system.\nIt is also a name for Set, of the Egyptian mythos.\nSeth was also the name of the third son of Adam and Eve mentioned by name, for Adam "a son in his likeness and form" (Genesis 5:3). Seth was given by God in place of the murdered Abel. He had a son Enos at age 105 (Genesis 5:6) and lived 912 years (Genesis 5:8).\n\n\nI love questions like this and am happy to help anyone on mythology questions in mythology.
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No "Lucifer" is NOT even a name for Satan!\n\nIn fact, The word "Lucifer" in Isaiah 14:12 presents a minor problem to mainstream Christendom. It becomes a much larger problem to Bible literalists.\n\n"Lucifer makes his appearance in the fourteenth chapter of the Old Testament book of Isaiah, at the twelfth verse, and nowhere else: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" \n\nThe first problem is that Lucifer is a Latin name. So how did it find its way into a Hebrew manuscript, written before there was a Roman language? Was Satan given in this chapter of Isaiah, which describes the angel who fell to become the ruler of hell? \n\nConsidering the original Hebrew text, the fourteenth chapter of Isaiah is not about a fallen angel, but about a fallen Babylonian king, who during his lifetime had persecuted the children of Israel. It contains no mention of Satan, either by name or reference. The Hebrew scholar could only speculate that some early "Christian" (Christendom) scribes, writing in the Latin tongue used by the Church, had decided for themselves that they wanted the story to be about a fallen angel, a creature not even mentioned in the original Hebrew text, and to whom they gave the name "Lucifer." \n\nWhy Lucifer? In Roman astronomy, Lucifer was the name given to the morning star (the star we now know by another Roman name, Venus). The morning star appears in the heavens just before dawn, heralding the rising sun. The name derives from the Latin term lucem ferre, bringer, or bearer, of light." In the Hebrew text the expression used to describe the Babylonian king before his death is Helal, son of Shahar, which can best be translated as "Day star, son of the Dawn." The name evokes the golden glitter of a proud king's dress and court (much as his personal splendor earned for King Louis XIV of France the appellation, "The Sun King"). \n\nThe scholars authorized by ... King James I to translate the Bible into current English did not use the original Hebrew texts, but used versions translated ... largely by St. Jerome in the fourth century. Jerome had mistranslated the Hebraic metaphor, "Day star, son of the Dawn," as "Lucifer," and over the centuries a metamorphosis took place. Lucifer the morning star became a disobedient angel, cast out of heaven to rule eternally in hell. Theologians, writers, and poets interwove the myth with the doctrine of the Fall, and in Christian tradition Lucifer is now the same as Satan, the Devil, and --- ironically --- the Prince of Darkness. \n\nSo "Lucifer" is nothing more than an ancient Latin name for the morning star, the bringer of light. That can be confusing for many in Christendom who identify Christ himself as the morning star, a term used as a central theme in many of Christendom's sermons. Jesus refers to himself as the morning star in Revelation 22:16: "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." \n\nHenry Neufeld (a Christian who comments on Biblical sticky issues) went on to say, \n"this passage is often related to Satan, and a similar thought is expressed in Luke 10:18 by Jesus, that was not its first meaning. It's primary meaning is given in Isaiah 14:4 which says that when Israel is restored they will "take up this taunt against the king of Babylon . . ." Verse 12 is a part of this taunt song. This passage refers first to the fall of that earthly king... \n\nHow does the confusion in translating this verse arise? The Hebrew of this passage reads: "heleyl, ben shachar" which can be literally translated "shining one, son of dawn." This phrase means, again literally, the planet Venus when it appears as a morning star. I
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Genesis 3:20 Adam named his wife Eve (Eve probably means  living), because she would become the mother of all the living.\n\nThat rules out any other 'original' mother.  You can decide to believe what you want, I think it's always better to have some evidence for what you believe rather than pulling it totally out of the air.  The Bible gives absolutely no indication of any other people created by God.  Adam and Ever were to be the parents of all the races to come.
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Revelation 9:11 (New International Version)\nThey had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon.\n\nFootnotes:\nRevelation 9:11 Abaddon and Apollyon mean Destroyer\n\nI see what you mean it calls him king and angel, it might be the angel from the folowing text:\n\nRevelation 20\n1And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.\n\nBut I think it is Satan, for Jesus refers to his kingdom (though this is probably the demons, as we Christians are the kingdom of God)\n\nMatthew 12:26\nIf Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?
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A person needs to read this passage very carefully, and it really helps to read it in the Hebrew. The three men are never actually identified as God. A number of Jewish rabbis have noticed the same thing. It is *first* said that Abraham was sitting in his tent and had a vision of God, *then* he opened his eyes and saw three men. While Moses's narative style sometimes has an overview of events, and then more details, it's hard to say if that's what's happening here or not. In fact, it's almost funny to read if you take the stance that these three were angels in the last half of Genesis, because it has Abraham speaking to the angel that remained behind, and calling him "Adoni" (Lord) but never YHVH. But the one to reply is always YHVY and never Adoni. Also, in Genesis 18:22, it says that the men Abraham was speaking with turned and left, but Abraham stayed and pleaded with the LORD.\n\nBut even if you take the stance that one, or even all three, of these "angels" were in fact God Almighty, there is nothing to keep God Almighty as a spirit from creating a body and animating it himself. St. Augustine gets into that kind of an idea  little bit in one of his 15 books on the Trinity, I don't remember which off the top of my head.
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Wow, this is a new topic and compared to what I have read so far today...a pleasant change.  Possibly so, since we are to believe we were all 'created' in the image of God.  Angels were first according to history and Satan, Lucifer was his favorite at one time.  I don't know what else to say, but I appreciate the question for the open minded people out in the world today...what if this is true?  Good one.
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I am suprised at this series of answers, as I am sure that there is a passage int he Bible specifically mentioning angels who have not fallen, yet owe no allegiance to the Lord.\n\n Sounds nuetral to me.
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Hahahahahaha, that's funny!!!! \nLOOK in Genesis chapter 3 verse 20----Eve was the Mother of ALL LIVING!!!!! Now what does that tell you.  (not the Mother of all living people to come later!!!!)\nRemember, verse 20 happened AFTER Adam and Eve ate from the Tree, and fell..  Later, chapter 4, Cain and Able was born.  When Cain did the Murder of his Brother, Cain went into the land of NOD and had a kid with his wife.\nWhere did the Land of NOD come from????\np.s. The BIBLE dosen't say Adam and Eve were the First People  on EARTH.\np.s.s.  It's NICER to say "Marry so they could have Intercourse to produce children"----but it's up to you how you say thing's---Have a GOOD day!!!!!!     Ditto!!!!!!
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Whoooaa. I thought Lucifer was satans name.  Its hardly worshipping him by calling him that.  If you are correct..ok.  But again its not worshipping him.
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Dear Allen T,\n I hear by subjugate your reality and implant my own.\n\nDid you know that the "Bible" has been changed over the past two millennia. Since the Catholic church has left out the good parts of the "Bible" we no longer know what is true, but in the name of Jesus, Christians have destroyed other faiths of the world to supplant their own beliefs on other nations and people which in the "Bible" God says do not JUDGE others or their way of belief.\nAnd I quote nowhere in Genesis does it state that the entire world was governed by God.\n\nIf we did find Atlantis it would rewrite everything we know.\n\n"And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived and bore him Enoch: and he built a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch."\nGenesis 4:16&17\n\nNod means to wounder in ancient Hebrew coptic scripts. And we have yet to find "EDEN". AND ENOCH WAS A GOOD PRE-FLOOD CIVILAZATION AND IRRONICLY THE CHILDREN ARE OF CAIN............\n\n*stps off soap box* "Thank you. I'll be back next week." bows and exits stage right.
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Christianity kind of messes up on this bit of theology. According to them, there was a war in heaven between Satan and God, and Satan got cast to Earth.  At the same time, they say that heaven is a wonderful, joyous place of eternal bliss that we should all strive to attain. I posit that these two concepts are incompatible. It means that there is sin and rebellion in heaven, and if there was one war, there might be others that Christians don't know about. Why bother going to a place that is no better than Earth??\n\nAnd yes, the word "lucifer" does NOT refer to Satan at all. It is a LATIN word, not a Hebrew name, and was used to translate the words "morning star," or "son of the morning."  It is actually a reference to the planet Venus, which is very bright and can be seen in the early dawn sky; it precedes the sun and so is called the "bringer of light" and similar titles in many cultures. This title is found in Isaiah ch.14, in a prophecy about the king of Babylon. It has nothing to do with Satan, but is a poetic reference to how the king aspired to greatness and would be cast down to the dirt. Christians take it literally, but if they would actually READ the entire chapter--and the one preceding it--they would see that the context can in no way refer to an angelic being. It is all about Israel and Babylon. Funny how Christians always accuse us skeptics of taking things out of context, when they do it all the time, in order to make scriptures mean what THEY want them to mean, and not what they actually say!
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While I don't ever recall hearing this in church, it appears that it's actually a part of Mormon scripture:\n\n"And the Lord appeared unto them, and they rose up and blessed Adam, and called him Michael, the prince, the archangel."\n(Doctrine & Covenants 107:54)\n\n\nWhat's interesting about this is that in the early church it was actually taught that Adam was *God*.  This doctrine has been abandoned and is no longer recognized by the church, however...
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Gen 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou [art] with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nGen 16:15 And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called his son's name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael. \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nGen 16:16 And Abram [was] fourscore and six years old, when Hagar bare Ishmael to Abram. \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nGen 17:18 And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee! \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nGen 17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nGen 17:23 And Abraham took Ishmael his son, and all that were born in his house, and all that were bought with his money, every male among the men of Abraham's house; and circumcised the flesh of their foreskin in the selfsame day, as God had said unto him. \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nGen 17:25 And Ishmael his son [was] thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nGen 17:26 In the selfsame day was Abraham circumcised, and Ishmael his son. \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nGen 25:9 And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, which [is] before Mamre; \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nGen 25:12 Now these [are] the generations of Ishmael, Abraham's son, whom Hagar the Egyptian, Sarah's handmaid, bare unto Abraham: \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nGen 25:13 And these [are] the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names, according to their generations: the firstborn of Ishmael, Nebajoth; and Kedar, and Adbeel, and Mibsam, \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nGen 25:16 These [are] the sons of Ishmael, and these [are] their names, by their towns, and by their castles; twelve princes according to their nations. \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nGen 25:17 And these [are] the years of the life of Ishmael, an hundred and thirty and seven years: and he gave up the ghost and died; and was gathered unto his people.
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In popular thought the two are the same.  But, in fact, the equation is based on a mistake, as almost all scholars (conservative and liberal alike) will tell you.\n\nSatan is, of course, the great angelic rebel, leader of the rebel angels and accuser of God's people.  (His role is not as clearly developed in the Old Testament -- we only see him three times [1 Chronicles 21, Job 1-2 and Zechariah 3].)\n\nOn the other hand, the name "Lucifer"  --in the Bible at least-- refers to someone else.  The name or title is the Latin translation for the "Day Star" in Isaiah 14.   And the  prophecy itself specifically says it is about the King of Babylon.  \n\nNote the setting -- God has just been talking about the captivity into which the King of Babylon will take Israel (as happened in 586 BC) and the promise of their return.  Then he turns to pronounce his JUDGMENT on this arrogant king and enemy of his people.\n\nThe prophecy is mostly a description of how this lofty king  is brought down to the GRAVE.   There he is greeted by other dead kings marvel that even this mighty king has been brought down, just like them!  NONE of this fits the idea that this character is Satan or symbol for him.\n\nThe basis for the misunderstanding is the HIGH language used to describe this person (e.g., "Day Star") and his lofty position.  They look at this language and think it is inappropriate to a mere human being.   But that is exactly the POINT!!    In fact, this was just the sort of language Near Eastern kings, who considered themselves sons of the gods,  used about THEMSELVES. Its use in this passage is to MOCK the king and his pretension.\n\nSomething very similar happens in a prophecy against the King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28.  Again the passage specifically TELLS us it is about the King of Tyre.  Ezekiel's language is based on a poetic description of the exalted position of the first man (Adam) who lived in God's presence (in Eden) and the clothing of a high priest (simlar to that found in Exodus 28-29).\n\nIn other words, these passages are talking about HUMAN pride and rebellion.  It may indeed resemble the rebellion of the being we konw as Satan, but these passages are NOT about Satan.
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hmmmmmm....well it is a demon baby, right?\n\n:::thinking on this one:::\n\nIt could invariably end up having 2 heads.  One female and one male.  Not to menation that if that happens, it could end up having a the genitalia of both male AND female.  \n\nSo if that happens, you are either going to have to name him/her Lilith Seth or Seth Lilith.  \n\nWhew.  I don't envy you when puberty hits them either!  I mean one one hand the Seth will have nocturnal emissions and the Lilith will have her menstrual cycle.  Of course that will really be awful becase girls are 2 years ahead of boys maturity wise.  How are you going to explain tampons to your prebubescent son?\n\nJust trying to prepare you.
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There is only one Angel Michael and so the answer to the first question is yes.\n\nI just did a word-search in the Apocrypha and the Archangel Michael is not listed.  I'm not Catholic but I have the Apocrypha in my Bible search program so I was able to get you that much information.  The answer to the second question is no.  Jude mentions that dispute because, as the Bible says in 2 Timothy 3:16, all scripture is inspired by God.  \n\nMichael is always a proper name, if God were talking about the Archangel Gabriel (the Messenger) then He would have said Gabriel.  Michael isn't a word that is used interchangeably with "angel".  The answer to your third question, therefore, is no.
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First of all, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob are not dead people. They are in heaven In Matthew 22 it is said: 29Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.....have you not read what God said to you, 32'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'[a]? He is not the God of the dead but of the living." \n\nSo I guess that replies to 1st part of your question. As for the second, I think you don't need a real answer, that was your funny way of asking. Isn't it?  If you would like to refer to Judah then go ahead but means you refer to their God: The Devil!!!