I am told that the holy trinity was adapted from pagan beliefs, like the dates for christmas and easter. But do not know the first meaning of the trinity or try force can anyone help
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It represents the three stages of life.\n1. birth and growth - being born and learning to be a productive, responsible part of society or culture. The 'becoming' years.\n2. The productive years - these are the years when you are supporting your children and your elders, having children, etc. The 'creating' years.\n3. old age - the years when you physically slow down and become the teacher rather than the creator. The 'teaching' years.\nIn antiquity, when a family meant more than a mom and dad and several kids, the extended family consisted of several generations all living together in the same tribe/household/clan or however their culture had them divided up. These people saw the Creative Force as embodying all three of these stages in one entity.
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There aren't any.  The best you will find are a couple of verses that, when taken out of context, seem to be vaguely describing a trinitarianish relationship.\n\nThe fact is that the Trinity is not supported by the Bible and you would have much more success finding scriptures to disprove it.
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God the Father, mind\nGod the Son, body\nGod the Holy Spirit - soul\nHuman - made up of body, mind, and soul; therefore in the image of God - the Trinity
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE "TRINITY"\n\n1st of all Jesus said: He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.—Joh 6:56, 57.\n\nJesus’ being called the “only-begotten Son” (Joh 1:14; 3:16, 18) does not mean that the other spirit creatures produced were not God’s sons, for they are called sons as well. (Ge 6:2, 4; Job 1:6) However, by virtue of his being the sole direct creation of his Father, the firstborn Son was unique, different from all others of God’s sons, all of whom were created or begotten by Jehovah through that firstborn Son. So “the Word” was Jehovah’s “only-begotten Son” in a particular sense,\n\nJesus is also “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.” This does not mean that he usurps the authority and position of Jehovah, who is “God our Father.” (2 Corinthians 1:2) “He [Jesus] . . . gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3;\n\nDoes the Bible teach that all who are said to be part of the Trinity are eternal, none having a beginning?\n\nRev. 1:1; 3:14, RS: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him .  Why did God have to give Jesus the revelation, if Jesus is God?\n\nDoes the Bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the Trinity is greater or less than another, that all are equal, that all are almighty? Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)\n\nJohn 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”\n\n1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven. \n\nA person who is really seeking to know the truth about God is not going to search the Bible hoping to find a text that he can construe as fitting what he already believes. He wants to know what God’s Word itself says. He may find some texts that he feels can be read in more than one way, but when these are compared with other Biblical statements on the same subject their meaning will become clear. It should be noted at the outset that most of the texts used as “proof” of the Trinity actually mention only two persons, not three; so even if the Trinitarian explanation of the texts were correct, these would not prove that the Bible teaches the Trinity.\n\nI COULD GO ON & ON WITH SCRIPTURES & EXPLANATIONS, BUT I THINK THIS ALREADY TO LONG FOR SOME PEOPLE.
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The father, the son, and the holy spirit are one according to the Bible-"Jesus is God and God is Jesus" It IS difficult to wrap your brain around, but I look at it in a practical way...just like when my parents had me, I was a part of them in a physical way and I didn't know it yet, but also in a spiritual way that I understood after I matured. I think the same about Jesus and God.  Jesus was still human while here on earth and didn't understand his father's entire plan hence the "father why have you forsaken me," when he was on the cross, but upon his maturity (death and resurrection) he saw his spiritual bond and oneness with God clearly.  \nGod put a part of him on earth as a human to influence and ultimately save humans as an act of grace. His son is a part of him just as I am a part of my parents. (This is all just my opinion and no offense to others or non-believers!)
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To be able to understand what it means would mean that you were God. It is IMPOSSIBLE for a human with a finite mind and a mortal, physical body to even begin to comprehend a multi-faceted God. A God who lives in the past, present and future all at the same time. A God who is everywhere all at the same time and who knows all that there is to know all the time. The Trinity is a mystery but God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are ONE.
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JUST PRESENTING MY PERSPECTIVE.. NOT TO OFFEND MY CHRISTIAN FRIENDS HERE\n..\n\nThis is called as blind belief.\n\none person, God the Father + one person, God the Son + one person, God the Holy Ghost = one person, God the What? \n\n1+1+1=3 NOT 1\n\n1*3 =3 NOT 1\n\nIf God is the Father and also the Son, then He would then be the Father of Himself because He is His own Son. This is illogical!\n\nthey believe because they are told to believe blindly, and God forbids us to believe blindly.\n\nAnd do not follow (blindly) any information of which you have no (direct) knowledge. (Using your faculties of perception and conception, you must verify it for yourself. (In the Court of your Lord,) you will be held accountable for your hearing, sight, and the faculty of reasoning."[Quran 17:36]\n\n\n\n===========\n\nFURTHERMORE..........................\nThe Bible does not support the Christian belief in trinity at all. The word "Trinity" does not exist anywhere in the whole Bible, but it is mentioned in the Glorious Qur’an \n\n                        \nchapter 4 verse 171 \n"Say not ‘Trinity’: desist: \nIt will be better for you for \nAllah is one God."\n[Al-Qur’an 4:171]\n\n \n\nQuran says in Surah Maidah chapter 5 verse 73\n"They do blaspheme who say\nAllah is one of three\nIn a Trinity: for there is \nNo god except One God.\nIf they desist not\nFrom their word (of blasphemy),\nVerily a grievous penalty\nWill befall the blasphemers\nAmong them."
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Within Christianity, the doctrine of the Trinity states that God is a single Being who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as a perichoresis of three persons (personae, prosopa): \n\n- Father (the Source, the Eternal Majesty)\n- The Son (the eternal Logos or Word, incarnate as Jesus of Nazareth)\n- The Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost (the Paraclete or advocate). \n\nSince the 4th Century AD, in both Eastern and Western Christianity, this doctrine has been stated as "One God in Three Persons," all three of whom, as distinct and co-eternal "persons" or "hypostases," share a single Divine essence, being, or nature. \n\nSupporting the doctrine of the Trinity is known as Trinitarianism, and is opposed to the positions of Binitarianism (two deities/persons/aspects), and Unitarianism (one deity/person/aspect), which are held by some minor Christian groups.
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You have absolutely no understanding of the concept of the TRINETY. God is ALL THREE, FATHER/SON/HOLY SPIRIT\n\nSlavery is part of YOUR religion, not Christianity.\n\nYou should look BEYOND your teachings and your fellow Muslims if you want a TRUE understanding of Christianity. Otherwise you are only spreading ignorance to strengthen your own orthodoxy.
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I'm not sure the classic explanation of the Trinity is the only way to reconcile the scriptures that have led to that doctrine, actually.  I think it is much simpler than we make it out to be.  I believe that the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are simply in complete agreement with each other.  Therefore when one speaks, He speaks for all three of them.  And when you talk to one, you essentially talk to all three.  There is no plurality of ideas or desires, no conflict.  In that sense, and I believe in that sense only, they are one.
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Yes I can explain it easliy. The trinity is a false teaching. It's obvious from this scripture and others that God and Jesus are seperate and Jesus is God's son. See the following about the origin of the trinity - it's not taught in the Bible:\n\nThe New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.\n\nThe New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.\n\nIn The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.\n\nAccording to the Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”—(Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.\n\nJohn L. McKenzie, S.J., in his Dictionary of the Bible, says: “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”—(New York, 1965), p. 899.
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Your on the right track there.  God would not want to be labeled as a trinity.  God wants his family.  Right now its Jesus.  There are many false Profits (ministers, preachers).  Read and study the bible (man made name), God's word.  The truth is there.  God is lord and Jesus is lord.  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,(Jesus was with God) and the Word was God.(God and Jesus are the truth, Good, light )and Holy Spirit will guide those who do follow the 10 commandments and truly seek the Father.  Satan had came into the church and corrupted the truth.  He knows what he is doing.  Very deceitful (trickster, smooth)  I could go on and on.lol
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My point about that commandment is....why would it even be in there if no other gods existed for people to worship?\n\nAs a pagan, I use that argument on annoying Christians trying to make me "take Jesus into my heart". They don't like it much--it makes them think and that hurts their heads.\n\nBut your question is only about Jesus. If the Trinity is Father-Son-Holy Ghost then Jesus doesn't count as a different god.
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Who teaches that there are three gods? Do you mean the doctrine of the Trinity? The doctrine of the Trinity is formally defined as: One God in Three Persons. That therefore means that it teaches only one God, not three gods. Saying that the Trinity is three gods is just as wrong as saying the God of Islam is a pagan moon god. Both statements wrongly represent the beliefs of those who believe them.
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The answer is NO!\n\n\nTRINITY is defined as "A three-fold personality existing in one divine being or substance; the union in one God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three infinite co-equal, co-eternal persons as; one God in three persons."\nhttp://community.webshots.com/photo/370320470/1458598283049373547yUQTUG\n\nJesus is actually God's son.\n\nI don't believe in the trinity! I don't see how people can when it came from paganism and is unbiblical.\n\nJesus Christ is not God (he was figuratively God in the Old Testament; the spokesperson for God) = John 1:1. \nhttp://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/magazine/tw-mag.cgi?category=Magazine3&item=1103832467\n\nNow if Jesus was a trinity (which is unbiblical), that would mean he didn't come fully in the flesh = 1John 4:3. \nHow can Jesus be God and talk to himself?\n\nThe Trinity Doctrine came from paganism.\nhttp://www.cornerstone1.org/trinity1.htm\nhttp://www.biblicalunitarian.com/html/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=140\nhttp://mikeblume.com/pagantr.htm\n\nMost of the majority(Matt.7:13) leads people away from the Truth.\n\n(KJV BIBLE)There are 3 that protestants claim about the trinity; they're JOHN 14 & 15 and 1JOHN 5:7. To start out 1JOHN 5:7 was never in any of the inspired Greek manuscripts; so this knocks out one. As for John 14 & 15; the Greek word for "helper" is paracletos; one who helps inwhich points to the Holy spirit. In Greek, the word "He" is neuter such as "hand" is feminine whether it is a woman's hand or male's hand. As for the word "paracletos" it is masculine and always require a masculine pronoun. This however doesn't prove personhood as you've noticed.\nBut as you've noticed, these texts don't prove Jesus is God or the Holy Spirit. \nI don't believe in the TRINITY! The Bible texts that I'm going to mention contradict the Trinity teaching. \nMATT.12:32 "AND WHOSOEVER SPEAKETH A WORD AGAINST THE SON OF MAN, IT SHALL BE FORGIVEN HIM: BUT WHOSOEVER SPEAKETH AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST, IT SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN HIM, NEITHER IN THIS WORLD, NEITHER IN THE WORLD TO COME."\nJOHN 14:28 "IF YE LOVED ME, YE WOULD REJOICE, BECAUSE I SAID , I GO UNTO THE FATHER: FOR MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I."\n1COR.11:3 "BUT I WOULD HAVE YOU KNOW THAT THE HEAD OF EVERY MAN IS CHRIST; & THE HEAD OF THE WOMAN IS THE MAN; AND THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD."\nLUKE 18:19 "AND JESUS SAID UNTO HIM, WHY CALLEST THOU ME GOOD? NONE IS GOOD, SAVE ONE, THAT IS, GOD."\n****SEVERAL OTHER TEXTS SAY THERE'S ONLY TWO PERSONS: \n1COR.1:3; 8:6; 1TIM.1:2; 2:5; GAL.1:3; PHILIPP.1:2; ROM.1:7; 2COR.1:2-3; 1THESS.1:1; 2THESS.1:2; 2TIM.1:2; PHILEMON 1:3; 1PETER 1:3; 2PETER 1:2; 1JOHN 1:3; 2JOHN 1:3.\n\nNow touching on the HOLY SPIRIT; the Holy Spirit is a power(Luke 1:35= "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the "Son of God.") where God and Jesus make their presence known in the hearts and minds of believers(1John 3:24 = "And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us."). The believers of god and Jesus will have this love poured on them (Rom.5:5 = "And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given to us.") It will teach them understanding and wisdom of God's Word (John 14:16,17,20,23,26 = "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. At that day ye shall know that I am in th
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If you want to understand how Jesus can sit at the right hand of the Father and it still be that there is only one God, you will need to understand the concept of the Trinity (the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).  They are seperate entitities, but together form the Almighty, the one God.
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I am sorry, but the trinity is a false concept.  God is not the author of confusion, as you said, and therefore such a 'mysterious' God cannot be real.  Don't get me wrong, it is simply three Gods.  Jesus is the Christ, the trinity is a human idea.