What is actually the CORRECT SEQUENCE for his 7 statement during his cruxification?\nI kinda difficult to believe Jesus only said 7 statement while being crucified...\nI believe he said more than that, only our bible didn't record that...\nAm i just the one who ever wonders this or does somebody out there has the same thought with me?
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Grace unto you, and peace,\nfrom God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.\n\nSeven last utterances:\nhttp://www.godshew.org/Easter.htm#Utterances\nhttp://www.godshew.org/Easter1.htm\n\nSuch seven are a Menorah Seven:\nhttp://www.godshew.org/Sevens3.htm\n\nMenorah sevens have two things in midst,\nsuch as "My God, my God" as saying two Gods,\nfrom plural Psalms makes one feel "forsaken".\n\nWhich things are an "allegory".\n\nThe "grace" of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.
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I am not sure if he was, but our current bible is missing several books.  Each of the 11 disciples wrote a book (all but Judas), but we only have 4.  Also, bear in mind that the Catholic Bible and Protestant Bible have different books.  However, although I am sure he probably wrote "something" about Christ, I can not say for sure it was a "book," and that his book was rejected.
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You jackass. the verse (8:68) refers to distribution of spoils of war. Now, anymore FAKE KORANIC VERSES I NEED TO READ?\n\nWho's the one embarrased now?\n\nEDIT:I want to make it clear. This verse is not taken out of the context because IT WAS NEVER IN THE CONTEXT!! It's fictitious.
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I think he meant he dont PRE-judge anyone.  Yes I am getting stirred up over Jesus!  Look at the world and the extremely elevated debate over Christianity, if that isnt proof that the Bible is accurate, non-believers will NEVER be convinced. I am amazed at how many people I am seeing converting to Christianity.  I have even seen in the last few days people here go from anti-christ, to believer- God is amazing!\n\nNOTE: Before anyone else says he didnt ask a question, read it again- the bold highlited part.  "Getting stirred up over Jesus?"  - that looks like a question to me so,,, are you???
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I think that many people will start to pray for you from making a statement like that...\n\nWell, I can't realy convince you one way or the other on this topic being that it's not a forum for discussion, just a single answer for your one question...\n\nI can tell you what i believe...  I believe in Jesus.\n\nI can also say, there have been many people in the past that sought to prove Jesus was either just a man, or that he's fiction, and many of them, after everything, became christians...\n\nOne other thing to note, outside of current events (and say for the past could hundred years), Jesus being real, dieing on the cross, then comming back is one of the most (if not the most) documented events in history...   The Romans, who at the time didn't care about Jews for the most part, even recorded it into their records of history...\n\nThat's all i can realy say for now with out discussion...\n\nThanks.
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Huh? Who is Jesus? Do you mean that jewish rabbi Jeshu that the greek christians renamed Jesus and claimed him as their God in the flesh? Didn't he already come back once? How many lives does that guy get any way? The last event would probably be "WORLD-WIDE PANIC"
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I don't know the answer off-hand.  I'll be tuning in to see.  ;)\n\nI have added this edit to my question which you answered:\n\nFeb 27, 2006 at 10:12 pm\nBill, John 19:31 says, "Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath." Ok, so John is saying that the 14th of Nissan (the Day of Preparation) was on Friday that year. So the next day of course would have been Sabbath, as well as 15th of Nissan, the day of the Seder, so yes, a great sabbath. \n\nBut this in no way answers my question. Because if we are to believe John, then the 14th of Nissan that year occurred on a Friday. Therefore, the 15th would have begun Friday evening, there would have been a Passover Seder that evening, and according to Mark, Jesus ate that Passover Seder, then was not crucified until the Next Day, which according to John, then would have been on a Saturday!
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Jesus referenced Psalm 22 because it was the prophetic account of his crucifixion written a thousand years before the fact.\n\nAnyone who was crucified and looking down at the earth from his vantage point would feel God-forsaken.\n\nIt was only a figure of speech.\n\nGod is eternally united in the Trinity, and can never change.
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Man, I understand where your coming from.  I've studied other religions and looked into this Jesus and I've asked the same question and many more.  Jesus is special for a number of reasons.  Yes, there were many people who crucified as saviors before and after Jesus.  We still get people popping up claiming divinity.  The real question isn't so much as is Jesus the savior because he got a few books written about him, its why were there books written about him in the first place.  The most basic point anyone can show you is this...its not that Jesus died, its that he rose after his death.  And there is more evidence that he did actually rise 3 days later and not just Biblical evidence.  First off, the fact that the Roman leaders and armies wanted him gone, because it was the time of Pass Over which is the celebration of Jews getting out of Egypt, and at this time of year, the Jewish community gets a little out of hand, for the are now under the Roman rule.  So when Jesus comes in, and he's claiming to be their savior...the crowd thinks he's going to be a king and run the Romans out.  So, if Jesus didn't rise again, why did the Romans say nothing?  Why did the Jewish Pharaseas (please excuse my spelling) who pushed to have him killed, not stand up and say..."he's still dead!"?  What was it that gave Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John the confedance to step out of their hidding, for fear they were going to be crucified, and boldly speak of a living God, Jesus...and welcome their death?  These questions may seem weak, but if you really think about them and look at the history and try to get in the minds of all these people...only one thing makes since...Jesus is not dead...he rose, becoming a savior that no one expected, but a savior from ourselves.  Thats why Jesus is special, the others were saviors...they were fanatics.  There are a lot of other reasons why Jesus is special, but I honestly have the feeling that if this thought doesn't at least make you rethink the history, then anything else I say, will truly be pointless.
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Do you sincerely believe literally that Jesus was holding His own flesh and blood?\na little more study of Scripture might help here.
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Ecc 9 is telling of how he views it.  He is frustrated with life and sees it as a waste of time... and to just go out and eat drink and be happy...for tomorrow we die - is the sentiment there.  \n\nBut there actually is mention of ghosts in the new testiment.  \n\nWhen Jesus was walking to them across the water - they were scared and though he was a ghost.  \n\n\nMatthew 14:26 \nWhen the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were terrified. "It's a ghost," they said, and cried out in fear.\n\nMark 6:49 \nbut when they saw him walking on the lake, they thought he was a ghost. They cried out,\n\nLuke 24:37    \nThey were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost.\n\nONE OF THE BEST IS THIS\nJesus himself is saying this - so he clearly believes in ghosts -  Judge for yourself. \n\n\nLuke 24:38-40     \n38  He said to them, "Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds? 39   Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have."    40  When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet.\n\nPS -  i do believe in ghosts, spirits, demons, and angels.  \n\nThere is WAY more to this world than when meets the eye.   I have been through some pretty strange things with living in a haunted apartment and all. I have absolutly no doubts (personally speaking) that spirits AKA ghosts do exist.  \n\n(seeing it refered to in the Bible - only serves to back up what I already knew though)  :)
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Ugggh, homework? It's summer soltice!  Give us a break!  \nI take issue with this article's assumptions, which are very general.  First the author makes the statement that Christianity's two prime articles of faith are "revelation and Crucifixion."  There are major divisions amongst Christianity itself on the person of Jesus Christ, the saving nature of his life, death, resurrection, teachings. And the question of whether or not he is the definitive and only saviour for all people of all times, is not universally agreed on by all Christians.  \nThe role of the Crucifixion is also not understood uniformly across the board by all Christians.  The question has long been asked and debated, "how is Jesus' death and crucifixion redemptive?" Is it? Redemption, atonement, sacrifice, are all traditional understandings, but theology has always had several understandings of and interpretations of soteriology, and Christology.\nInterestingly enough the earliest Christian art showed nothing of the crucifixion...\nBut I'm off the hook since your author inists that "no man" this and "no man" that...
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do you know at the time of Jesus there was atleast 20 people running around claiming to be the messiah.if you take time to read old testament and new testament you will find out how amazing they fit together. read any of the 4 accountants of the Crucifixion (found at the ends of the Gospels , Luke, Peter, Matthew and John)  and then psalm 22. it is eerie but right on.
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It's a total misinterpretation of 1 Thessalonians.  Christians WILL go through the "Tribulation" - I think it has already begun, to be honest.\n\nThe idea of a "pre-Tribulation Rapture" was unheard of in the writings of the Apostolic Fathers - heck - many of them thought the Diocletian Persecutions and the the persecution of Nero Caesar were pretty much a "tribulation", no?\n\nYou don't see that idea until the 1800's - and now, it's being perpetrated by fictional books like those "Left Behind" novels.\n\nNonsense.
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Just so you know where I stand. I asked a question of whether or not all the Bible should be taken literally or not. The best answer chosen was a good one.\n\nhttp://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ales.wK5IftnZfqP3dD5hbHsy6IX?qid=1006012504879\n\nWhen Jesus said regarding the bread and the wine, "this is my body and this is my blood of the New Covenant", He was not speaking literally. When the Bible says that the blood of Jesus washes away sin, we do not go off to mount Calvary and look for spots of blood to wash our sins away. Jesus said, "I am the door, whoever enters by any other way is a theif." The disciples did not turn to Jesus and see a large board with hinges and a knob. Jesus was saying there is a single way to heaven, and He is the Way.\nQuite a bit of the Bible is spoken in allegorical and metaphoic language. Jesus said that He was the Light of the world, the Good Shepherd, Living Water, the Bread of Life, and more. He came as the Lamb of God. He will return as the Lion of the tribe of Judah. All of which is true, but all spoken in a metaphoric language.\n\nWrath, I have not run in to any Christians who believe the Bible is 100% literal. However, there are many areas of the Bible that ARE literal and many are trying to change the statement because it is not politically correct, or they have an agenda or they find it personally offensive.\n\nCase in point:\nRobert Anderson worked for Scotland Yard during the Victorian era. He was the main investigator for finding Jack the Ripper. He took the prophecy in Daniel and was able to calculate the coming of the Messiah to the DAY. This is in the his book "The Coming Prince". He started this project based on taking the prophecy as being literal. He was rewarded for this effort with knighthood from Queen Victoria and became Sir Robert Anderson. However, in this same book, he notes the prophecies about Israel being gathered together and becoming a nation once more. Seeing how this has never happened in history, he dismissed the literal meaning as pure fantasy. In May 14th 1948, this brilliant man was proven wrong. The idea that the Jews would return to the land and make it Israel was so preposterous that this brilliant man equated it to being metaphorical--the literal interpretation was too hard to believe. So we could easily make a mistake by either way.\n__________________________\n\nBTW-This topic reminds me of a very good movie called "Lady Jane". One of the main focuses was the rise of the Protestant movement against the Roman Catholic church--especially in regard to transubstantiation. The Roman Catholics took the sacraments as being literally the body and blood of Christ, while the Protestants kept arguing that it was metaphorical. Check it out sometime!
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what is the reference of this verse. i want to read the whole thing before it and after it, not just picking a verse from the middel\n\nbut you are correct. we all are brother of blood, we should remain in peace with each other regardless what governments do. we all worship One God.
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I love when people say "read the bible!" after the guy just posted the verses he wants to discuss.\n\nIf the example he gives shows moses killing CHILDREN!!  How can you possibly say he did it b/c he had to or it was justified?  If god told you to go kill children you would do it?  You are sick.  Does that mean that the woman in texas or wherever who drowned her kids b/c she thought they were demons did the right thing?