If you don't, I want to see your point of view. How did we get here? Through evolution? What initiates evolution? If we have evolutionaized, why aren't we still growing? You can feel the winds but, you can't see it? Explain it to me. You're in love and you feel it but, you can't see it. Love isn't a big red dot in your face. So, how can you prove that love exist? It's just a feeling right? You can hear music coming from your speaker box but, you can't physically see it? So if all of these things aren't physically seen, how can you just up and say they do exist but God, or anyother spritual being for that matter doesn't exist? Why do you hate God, or don't believe in God? Or any other supreme being higher than you? \n\nPlease, don't be a prick while answering this. I just want to understand your unique minds.
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1) We ARE evolving. It's just a process that takes thousands of years to manifest itself. But yes, physically we will look slightly different in several hundred-thousand years, just like cavemen looked different from us.\n\n2) Music and wind can be detected, and measured (like those decibel-measuring tools in some school cafeterias, or wind-speed detectors in weather stations). Can God be measured or detected through science or observation?\n\n3) Love, although it has not been fully explained, is a feeling like many others, and goes back to our chemical and electric reactions between various neurons and neurotransmitters in our brain. Nothing too mysterious, really, just a way to get us to reproduce ;)\n\nThanks for asking our opinion politely, and not being a prick yourself by being overly preachy :)\n\nWhile I myself don't believe in God, I don't care what everyone else believes. If believing in God truly makes you a better person, and gives you peace of mind, then that's the best thing for you :) Just don't push it on me, and I'm A-OK with your beliefs.
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Okay you say there's no God. Then can I ask how you and everything that was made exist? Everything that is made needs a maker. Nothing Just is. And no I don't have much faith in Christianity. I've been burned more times than I can count. But when I look at the sky and how many changes of color it goes through each day, when I look at the grapefruit plant that's growing in my window, when I look at the trees and the grass and the animals the roam the fields , the singing of birds, the playing of squirrels I can't say that there isn't a God. And even more amazing how we are born. Did you know that the babies soft spot in it's head is so it can compress when it's exiting the womb? The way we are put together the way we walk, we're the only species that can walk up right with great balance. And the complexity of our brain and the boundless possibilities for learning. i know that there is something bigger than me and all of us. Now my faith in that will never waver.
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OK so not every one See's the world the same as you people have different opinions on how we got here..I don't care one way or another If it was go or and alien race started a science experiment..all I know is we are here and until I see physical proof from either I'm just here..and no the bible a book written by men does not count unless I see one glow with the inner light of your god.
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to go both ways on this, no, it's not a fake.  and evolution can be proven all the way back to the very beginning of life, this just being one example.  the only thing that can't truly be proven is how that first spark of life actually happened.\nand to go for the religious side of the world, at what point does it say in evolution that we developed all the higher brain functions that seperate us from animals?  isn't it possible that that is where god intervenes and life as we know it begins?\npersonally, i don't actuall have any answers, and i don't feel like arguing about it, because every truth we know is a truth for an individual.  it's how we view the world and what's in it that sets the truths we live by.
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Well, I agree with you to a point, so better wo find someone to debate with that has a stronger opinion against yours :-) Try the Christian Chat Rooms on chat.yahoo.com - you WILL find people in there to have a really loud debate with about this. Just don't expect any real answers. Just lots of praying and bible verses and counter-arguments like "can you see the wind? No? Well it's there. And so is God. Case closed."
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I agree.  Evolution is the basis of life as we know it?  Where is the evidence?  Even if I wanted to believe that evolution was the method that God used to create our world, where is the evidence of that?  \n\nThe evolutionist isn't looking for a "missing link"...they are looking for countless missing links between EVERY species, and have nothing to show for it.  The fossil record would be rife with evidence if the theory had one ounce of merit.  Rather, it shows the complete opposite.\n\nLikewise, mutations are an extremely implausible vehicle through which upward change can occur.  They put their "faith" in mutated DNA somehow producing new species, I put my faith in a Creator.\n\nWhy do they still believe evolution is plausible?  Because they want to reject God, and evolutionary theory is the best they've got...
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Wow, I was talking with some friends from church recently about this. I also had this feeling deep inside, "what if God didnt exist?" We talked for hours, debating on facts. Our conclusion: Yes, God exists. I'll try to give you some insight on what we went over.\n\nOk, let's not get too complicated and just give an everyday example. Suppose you got home today, and there was this beautiful chocolate cake with icing and everything, on top of ur table. Now, we have 2 theories of where that cake came from:\n\n1) There was an HEB truck this afternoon going by ur house, and all of a sudden, a car hit it at 70mph, and the truck rolled over violently. There were eggs, flour, all sorts of stuff in the truck, and they all got mixed up in the crash, and the truck caught on fire, and the extreme heat baked all that stuff, and as the truck continued to roll on the street, the stuff flew through ur window and miraculously landed on ur table.\n\n2) Someone who knew how to bake a chocolate cake, went there and did it, and then put it on top of ur table for you.\n\nWhich one makes more sense? If you answered #2, good! Then God created the Earth and everything in it. If you prefer to believe in an absurd and very creative theory called "the big bang", in which somehow gases mixed up, just in the right proportion, and then everything exploded and the earth was formed ... my friend, you have a very creative mind. First of all, how were those gases there? Someone must have created it. God. Stuff doesn't just appear.\n\n=D Doesn't that make sense? Ok, now, let's get a lil more complicated.\n\nScientists say that man evolved from monkeys or whatever their creative mind came up with. Well, it has been proven that over time, living beings only lose genetic material, constantly. Therefore, evolution cannot be possible. The human body is so complex, there is no way it just "evolved" from something. A project called GENOMA, just recently finished their research. Their task: make a complete mapping of the human DNA. Many countries joined forces to complete this project, each taking a body part, like arm, leg, or whatever, and finding out the DNA code for it. Germany was in charge of the human eye. At the end of the project, they said that the human eye was so complex, that there was NO WAY it could have evolved from some other animal. It's a fact. Scientists researched and wrote it down. Aren't they contradicting themselves now? Ok, I believe I made a point on this one. Mankind did not evolve. God made man in His image.\n\nOk, now back to the big bang stuff. The NASA has been measuring the distance from the Earth to the moon, and it's a fact that every year the moon gets further and further away from the Earth. Fact. It's been proven. It's also a mathematical equation. So, if we take that mathematical equation, and do it backwards, we come up with how long since the earth and the moon we're almost touching. The calculations say something about 10 thousand years. It can't be more than that, otherwise the moon would have been rolling around on the earth.\n\nAlso, it's possible to calculate the rate of aging of the Earth. Every year, scientists calculate the rate at which the Earth is aging. It's roughly the same. If we then backtrack how long since the Earth was relatively "new", the calculations vary from 10 to 12 thousand years. It's fact.\n\nAlso, the population of the Earth. Today, we have roughly 6.5 billion people alive. Populations, increase in a mathematical progression. In other words, there will always be more people alive today, than there are people dead. Fact. It's not possible to have more people dead than alive. Draw a sketch of a simple family tree, and you'll stumble upon the same conclusion. So, if we backtrack how long since the beggining of population, the results say somewhere between 10 to 12 thousand years.\n\nEvery fact that we
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There is no objective evidence of God's existance. At least not in any form that would satisfy the scientific method. But I think we need to approach the existance of God in another way, something similiar to the way that we might approach seeking evidence for say, dark matter.\n\nWe don't know what dark matter is because we haven't seen it. But we know that there's something out there that creates a certain effect in the universe, and we call it dark matter. But what is it? No one knows.\n\nGod's existance is really a matter of what is most likely, or least likely. If we look closely at all the constituents of life and the universe, just in terms of what science and philosophy are able to approach, then there are a number of markers that we can investigate, asking the question, "What is most likely responsible for this"?\n\nThere's work going on in the area of quantum mechanics (quantum physics) that gives us some interesting insight into consciousness and the role it plays in the physical universe.\n\nIf we apply mathematics in the form of statistical analysis to certain "random events" in nature, we're left with the realization that the odds of certain processes happening strictly on a random, or chance basis, is so incredibly small as to be non-existant.\n\nIf we thoroughly weigh the two alternate theories to do with the beginnings of life on Earth (biogenesis vs abiogenesis, or life from life vs life from non-life), apply modern biochemistry or Mathematical analysis to that... we again face some interesting insights into the question of a conscious Creator vs a dead universe.\n\nI'm not going to tell you what you should or should not believe. All I'll say is that there's religious dogma and there's scientific dogma. Both are limited, both are invested in a particular worldview. Theology and philosophy ask pertinent and important questions and provide important insights, as does science and rationalism. Don't embrace one and reject the other. Rather utilize all the ways in which we, as human beings, are able to discern relevency, the nature of life and the relatedness of existance.\n\nIf we have an agenda going in, then we'll fulfill that agenda. But if we truly care about what's true, then we'll adapt our thinking and understanding to what we discover.\n\nAnd please keep this in mind; if we think we've arrived, we have nowhere to go.
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While it's certainly nice to want to embrace some of the tenets of Christianity the cost of actually believing is far too great.\n\nI could never put aside my belief in reason and embrace intolerance just because some book has levied a threat against disbelief.\n\nEvolution is undeniable. We see it at work every day. Dog breeds, anti-biotic resistant strains of germs are both evidence in favor of evolution. I know, I know microevolution versus macroevolution. However, seeing it in any capacity lends credence to the greater argument. \n\nOur knowledge base is still in its infancy. Six-hundred years ago the Earth was flat and the center of the universe. Now we know better. What will we discover in the next six-hundred years?
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Has love found me?  - it has in the past, at this moment I don't believe so.\n\nDid I pass it by?  - Most likely I have once or twice\n\nAm I looking for it?  - Who isn't?! lol   seriously though, I would love to have it right now, but I can be patient, because I know its worth waiting for...\n\nDo I think it really exists?  - Of course, I was born because of love, 1 - Because God wanted to give me life, and 2 -  Because my of my parents love....\n\nIt's out there, waiting for the right moment... There aren't words to describe love, its something each person needs to experience to know fully the definition of it, but even once they find it and feel it, they won't be able to put it into words... Words would not do the description of love justice... and I know this and haven't experienced unconditional love just yet.. I've been loved and gave love to another before, but I am sure it wasn't complete...  \n\nJust thinking of love is magical, what must it be like... :)  <3
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No, I know its hard for the ignorant people to believe because they are blinded by religious indoctrination, If there is any proof of an after life no one has seen it unless they were tripping out on acid or some other hallucinogen. People need to realize that there is nothing beyond our lives and we must do our best to better the human race instead of fighting wars in the name of "god". Because after this we only rot.
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Wow - yes of course people have thought of it, that's why you have so many choice in religions or the neo-popular near athiest ideologies associated with Godless science by way of the theory of Evolution, which provides absolutely NO answers and especially NO comfort for what you're looking for.  Not ragging on Science, but nobody I know curls up with test tubes and litmus paper when they go to bed at night, and if we evolved and continue to evolve based on ridiculous odds why bother to have any order in our societies at all?  But I'm biased, I favor intelligent design.  And I do believe in a benevolent creator...although how and what escapes me....\n\nHonestly? If you haven't ever tried religion, it might not be a bad idea to look into one that you can agree with, but fair warning, there are SCADS of goofy people therein.  Of course, there will be scads of goofy people anywhere life takes you.... \n\nIt just sounds like you need to believe in something or fall in love to get your mind off the downer side of things.
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First how do you prove any person has a soul? Second, how do you prove Heaven and Hell exist in a tangible manner? Third, how do you know a god even exists, or for that matter that god has any ability to interfere with human evolution?\n\nLastly, since humans are organic material beings, did you ever consider that insanity may be caused by a persons internal environment (biology) and his/her external environement (society)?
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Oh my goodness, your hallucination proves that a god exists???\n\nPardon me while I beg to differ.
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Excellent post.\n\nI get quite tired of the strawman versions of evolution and the scientific method trotted out by creationists.\n\nFor example, the big bang has nothing to do with evolution.  Zero.  \n\nWhere the first life form came from has nothing to do with evolution.  Zero.\n\nA theory is simply the best explanation for observable data.  We witness the diversity of life around us, and we must explain it somehow.  It is NOT meant to be proven.  Theories, in general, are not intended to be proven.\n\nFor example, gravity is a theory.  Is gravity false?  No.  Does gravity follow certain rules?  Absolutely!  Yet it is still a theory, and there ain't nothing wrong with that.\n\nYou well noted that some mechanisms of evolution are still not completely understood.  The theory, while perfectly valid, is not completely explained (just like gravity).  However, what creationists must keep in mind is that if any theory is going to replace evolution, it must explain ALL the evidence and data we have collected.  Genetics, fossil record, geological record, geographic isolation and allele frequency shift.\n\nAt the very best creationism (or ID) only points at the parts that science has not explained.  It offers no real alternative theory.\n\nLastly, the idea of "proof" for a "miracle" (meaning God's flooding of the earth) is oxymoronic, at best.  If there is proof (meaning observational data we can see today) then there is a natural explanation and God had nothing to do with it.  If it was a miracle, then there would be no evidence (since God suspended natural laws to make it happen).  Silly Christian fundamentalists, they want to have their cake and eat it too.
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I do believe in evolution because that just means cahanges over a period of time but,i don't believe in darwins theory of evolution or the big bang.people who are "scared" of believing in creation are looking for excuses.i don't know about sedementary rock except what my tutor  and teacher tells me.
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The "just look around you" argument is not a proof, but a restatement of faith. You could equally easily use the same argument to 'prove' the seeding of life on Earth by intelligent extra-terrestrials.\nThe great-great-great-great grandfather argument is not convincing either: for sure I can't prove that he existed back then, but how would that help me prove that God exists right now?\n\nThis is the 'ontological' proof:\n\n1. We humans have this idea of an infinitely perfect being that we call God. \n2. Existence is one of the perfections. \n3. Therefore, being infinitely perfect, God must exist. \n\nIs this convincing? Descartes - who proves his own existence simply by demonstrating his ability to doubt (I think therefore I am) - says: \n\n"How would I understand that I doubt...unless there were some idea in me of a more perfect being, by comparison with which I might recognise my defects?"\n\n"It would be impossible for me to exist, being of such a nature as I am (namely, having in me the idea of God), unless God did in fact exist"