I stop by the local army Recruiting office by my house about 3 weeks ago. the next week they called me and wanted to talk to me about joining. I told them that i was in college and that i had more than i year left. i told them that i would call them when i was ready. Well this all seemed fine until last wednesday, when i got another call. My recruiters boss called me and wanted to know what was holding me back from joining. I told him have school and i can't join for awhile anyways so that i would call him when i was ready. He told me that he'll let me do what i wanted to do and to call him when I is ready. then saturday they send 2 recruiters to my house, i wasn't at my house at the time but my father told me about it. Since then they just keep calling my cell phone and my house phone. this is getting out of hand and is starting to become harassment. i have already told them that i will call them and they agreed what else can i do to stop this.
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Talk to your college dean. he will know them, and be able to just call and they will stop. They will do this because as much as they want you to join, they want a good working relationship with the college a lot more. Take my word for it, i was a recruiter for two years.
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idraw4u hit it in a nutshell.\nBest advice I can give is to find someone who is recently out after more than 6 years or is currently in with more than 6 years. Reason I say this is the first few years in any branch of the service is the worst. You're starting at the bottom of the ladder. Anyone with less than 6 years probably does not have a good feeling for the Navy. Over 6 years they have re-enlisted by seeing something positive in the Navy life.\nRecruiters-will not lie to you, however they will not tell you the whole truth. Misinformation by a recruiter can get them thrown in the brig, period. They are very good at what they do, like used car salesmen. They can show you everything available on the lot but there is a few they have to get sold and will try to "guide" you into buying it. Research on your own on what you would like to do as a job, keeping in mind on if it is a marketable skill when you enter life after the military. What schools can you get guaranteed after bootcamp? Accelerated advancement (higher rank, better pay)? Once you have found one or two skills you want, talk to a recruiter. Stick to your guns on what job you want, cause they will try to get you to take one of the higher priority job they have to fill. Every month, they get the new list of openings, so if they don't have what you want, check back next month or have them contact you when one comes up. This is your life decision, make sure YOU make it. Good luck and hope to call you shipmate soon.
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I am currently a military spouse and if I could do it all over again I would have told my husband to just get a job in his major and not the Army.  The Army takes care of us, they have some great benefits probably the best in the world.  But none of that is worth risking your life for.  I'm not anti-Army, I'm just living the life supporting my husband.  We have a 3 year old, and he just came back from a deployment in Dec and possibly will be leaving again within a month.  Imagine a 3-year old asking for his daddy everyday while he is fighting in a senseless "war".  If you can't, it's pure hell.  I don't recommend military life to anyone unless you are single and times are REALLY hard for you financially.  There are alot of sacrifices you have to make in a military environment.  I have some research for you, go and find out the divorce rate for military servicemen, its beyond the means of high.  I think I just told you the reason why!!
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I can't speak for everyone in the military...But I can tell you that my recruiter was completely honest.  He said that basic freakin' sucked, but graduation was one of the best  days of his life.  And everyone should know that when the enlist they're opening themselves up for the possibility of going to war....If they're too dumb to know that then it's not the recruiters fault if they have a bad experience in the military- it's their own.
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semper_fi_brother:\n\nFirst off, let me tell you I am 37 and have been in the Army for 15 years both on Active Duty and in the National Guard. The person BEST QUALIFIED to answer your question would be an Army Recruiter. That being said, let me answer your questions as best as I can.\n\n1. No, you would not be the laughing stock of the entire Army. Soldiers have a great affinity for ANYONE who joins our family of brothers-in-arms. I suspect you would have a somewhat harder time in Basic Combat Training (BCT) for a couple of reasons, though. The Drill Sergeants would probably key in on you to make sure you were physically able to do the job. They will undoubtedly harass you to ensure you were mentally capable to handle pressure. The biggest challenge, however, will be your age. I found it tough to go through BCT at 23. This is because I had already developed into a man with my own ideas of right and wrong; I had developed into an individual. The purpose of BCT is to break down a group of individuals and rebuild them as a team. Chances are, you will see and do some things you may not agree with, and how you respond to that will determine how easy or hard of a time you will have.\n\n2. It is possible to go in as a higher rank, but it will not be because of your age. If you have a college degree, you might be able to go in as a Specialist (just below Sergeant). Even if you don't have a degree and have some college, you may be eligible to go in as a higher rank. Sometimes, depending on the MOS (Military Occupational Specialty - your job field) you choose, you may be eligible to start at a higher rank. If you get anyone else to join with you, you may be eligible to start at a higher rank. When I enlisted, I got two people I worked with to join the reserves. I was awarded one rank per recruit and went in as a Private First Class. This is an area a Recruiter could help out in. Also, if you know someone in the Reserves, let him refer you to a Recruiter. It could make your friend eligible for a $1000 bonus! :-)\n\n3. This, too, is going to be a question for a Recruiter. To my knowledge, the age of enlistment was raised to 39 for the Reserves and National Guard only. It will never be raised higher than that. The reason is that you are forced out at age 59 1/2, and there is no chance of making a retirement if you join at 40. I am not too sure what the requirement is for active duty. You may be able to request a transfer to active duty status once you are in the Reserves, though.\n\n4. Not to my knowledge. I just checked the Air Force Reserve website and you must be under 34. I suspect the answer will be the same for the Navy and the Marines.\n\nIf you decide to go in, I wish you luck! I think you will find the job tough but rewarding. It truly gets in your blood, and I plan on being in for the next 22 years until the boot my old a$$ out.
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Navy mom here. First----((((BIG HUG))). Next, you need to learn the Navy Mom mantra. Probably applies to all military moms--No news, is good news!. Unfortunatley, it's true. \n\nHe should have, but is not guaranteed, been able to call you the night he arrived at RTC (Recruit Training Command). There are a variety of reasons he might not have been able to, so don't worry. And I know, it's hard not to do. Since you haven't heard from him, you can call (847) 688-2405 and give them his full name and social security number. They won't be able to let you talk to him or get a message to him, but they will tell you he's arrived and what Division he's in. Once you have his Division number is, you can then got to the website I've posted under sources below and get his mailing address. \n\nYou'll probably get your first "real" phone call about week 3. But again, there are MANY variables to this including who his RDC's (Recruit Division Commander aka Drill Instructor) are. Your son may be doing quite well, but if someone else is messing up, they may all lose phone privileges. I know. It's not fair. But...\n\nBe sure to check out the other information they have at the website, including Pass in Review (Graduation). You will be able to watch for the date of his PIR on the website too. If there is ANY way you can go, then go. I promise it will be one of most moving experiences of your life. Start making plans now to attend.\n\nI can NOT stress this enough. Start writing him ASAP. Send as often as you possibly can. It's doesn't matter the length. A few lines on the back of a napkin is like gold to them. But don't try to send him any type of care package. It won't be allowed.\n\nShortly, you should start receiving a few things. One will be a "form" type letter from him with his address. But you can beat the letter if you call for the Division number. You should also receive "the box" any day now. The Navy is the only branch that does this and it can be heartbreaking. It will contain every stitch of clothing he was wearing and anything else he took with him. I sat down in the middle of the floor and cried like a baby when our son's came. Then again, he will be given the option to donate his clothes to charity so if the box doesn't come, don't let it worry you.\n\nYou may also want to check out navymomsonline.com. They are a SUPER group and will give you all kinds of support and information. \n\nAgain, I can't stress enough to write, write, write. And when you don't get much back, try to remember that they are only allowed to write on Sundays. \n\nTake care of yourself and try to remember that your son has given you a very special gift. He made you a Navy Mom. You may not understand it just yet, but the day will come when this new honor will touch you to the center of your soul and make you weep with pride.\n\nNavy Hugs.
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I assume that he's there for basic training.  I went to basic at Ft. Sill OK about 3 years ago now and I can tell you this.  SEND MANY MANY MANY LETTERS!!!!  My mom sent me at least a card or a note or something every single day.  I'm sure some other people that read this will make their comments about that, but I will tell you what, it is very very motivating and comforting to know that your family is thinking about you and cares for you.  Mail call was probably my favorite part of the day every single day.  You should hear from him soon.  maybe not by phone for awhile, but more than likely at least a letter with his address.  As I recall we didn't get phone privliges until about our 2nd or 3rd week.  He will also spend a few days at a reception battalion before he acctually starts basic.  he might get a few minutes to talk while there.  his phone calls will more than likely be very very short as there is normally very few phones for many many people to use.  God Bless your family and your son!  I hope this helps at least a little.  If you have any other quesions, feel free to e-mail me!
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lou, if I was still on Active Duty in the Army, you are just the person I would want in my Platoon. You want to enlist for all of he right reasons.\n\nThe Army wants people who are goal oriented. You are not taking advantage of the Army or the taxpayers for having these goals and letting the Army provide you with the skills.\n\nYou will pay me and all the other taxpayers back many times over, for the cost of your education in the Army.\n\nSo go ahead and enlist and "Be the best you can be", cause I can tell you will be one of the best.
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Why was he willing to help get more soldiers in the guard. I would like to say that all soldiers are doing a job. They signed up for it. If he does not like the way they conduct business don't reenlist. I think he needs to get out and shut his mouth up. We has military family are proud of our soldiers. We support them no matter what. It is something we have no say where the go and what they do.
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first of all if uve never enlisted, u just dont know jack shit, or whats really going on. its not one of those things u could understand by talking about it. and u shouldnt be answering this at all.\n     I was in the Army for a little over 10 months. i was discharged (Honorably) due to medical b/s, it really pissed me off, my ait was the 2nd longest in the Amry. if i was a ground pounder i would have been half way through my first tour but. i got to do crazy stuff in the Army, at fort Sill, OK they train most of the militarys field artillary so i got to see crazy *** howitzers and what not, ive shot so many different kinds of weapons, some of the nastiest m-4 carbines to the m249 saw and on the weekends at the pistol range an officer brought his .50 cal Desert eagle for us. but lots and lots of guns, i could talk all day about it, anywase, the Army will give u a good job if u do good on the asvab and if the job is avalible, and the air force doesnt get much respect unless your a pilot. but i got to train to be an interregator and if i would have filled out my contract i would have probably gone to the CIA or FBI rite after, and i have a whole new outlook on respect and dicipline, but the air forces boot camp is a joke. u sit in a classroom 6 hours a day, in the Army we marched over 60 miles with 80 lb. ruck sacks, and we got ambushed gased, tricked kidnapped, u name it, u will also get seperation pay for being married, and combat pay and there is more to it than that, im just not to sure b/c im not marrid. but seperation pay and all that will make your paycheck way fatter. and u can get a higher rank before u enlist for clooege credits or for knowing certain things before u enlist. its in the delayed entry program (DEP), talk to a recruiter about itboot camp is no joke tho, its serously hard and 40% of out starting battery did not make it through, ive experienced some awesome stuff, and after AIT i was going to go to airborne school. but i would go with the best job, and dont take **** from a recruiter, they are just salesmen, they are not all knowing and all wise, just guys who gotta make a sale, thats all, check out my myspace www.myspace.com/gunnrunner and give me a message if u wanna know more. i would love to tell u about it
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Go talk to a recruiter and see what options you have.  Just be prepared that recruiters are trying to make quotas and will say lots of things to get you to join.  Make sure this is something you really want to do, it's not like a job you can just quit.  The Army can get you off to a good future, unless you get killed in action.  There is the GI Bill, and you can take classes while you are in the Army, tuition is often cheaper and often times it's waved, and there are several colleges that offer classes on-line.  You won't get rich in the Army, but you can gain a lot of experience and maturity.  Think hard of what you might like to do.  Also, take the ASVAB and see what MOS (job) you can go into, the higher your score the more choices you will have, so it wouldn't hurt to buy a study guide, there are lots of them out there, like ASVAB for Dummies.  (You will have to take the ASVAB anyway to join the Army.)
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First of all, as a recruiter I can tell you that if whatever your problem is, if it can be waived the recruiter will work it.  If it cannot, and it sounds like you have been told something like it is a long shot or not even possible, email the White House is a waste of time.  If you have concerns or feel that all is not being done on your behalf, contact your local congressmen's office.
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they do know better.. the military lied to me .. i joined.. then left 4 months later.. i had lied to get in.. they told me to do so.. not worth it.. you are better off with a real profession.. ps.. they lie because they must.. we all do the best with what we have.. now that i left the military, i have to explain this to every future employer.. somehow.. something i am struggling with this minute.. i left four years ago.. (ten days ago) bye for now.
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be firm and dont waiver. stand your ground, do not return phone calls, do not "go out with him"
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One thing that call centers do is use an auto dialer.  It just puts in a few random numbers and whoever picks up first is connected.  Collection agency's, telemarketers and market research companies all use them.  Yes, it's annoying.  You need to call them and talk to them.  What I had to do with one company was get nasty.  They called me two to three times a day and sometimes I got the same thing you did, silence, and sometimes someone was on the line.  They called and woke me up and they interrupted my son's nap and even bothered us during dinner.  I called them and was like, this is harassment, plain and simple.  I told them not to use an auto dialer to call me.  I made it clear if the calls didn't stop, they would be reported.  They called once a week after that, we did make that agreement.  Just because you owe someone money doesn't mean they get to push you around.  I hope that or something else works for you because I KNOW how you feel.  As long as you are making some sort of payment to them, they shouldn't be able to take legal action...at least that's been my experience.  Even if all you can send them is $5 a month, at least you're trying.  Keep documentation though on what you send and when you send it.
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Harassment and insubordination.\n\nAnd if you are an officer in the army or police force I think they could call it conduct unbecoming an officer.\n\nSorry...even if he deserved it you're done.\n\nHope you did not need the job too bad.\n\nGood luck finding a new one!\n\nMaybe you should try to get a job writing for MAD Magazine?  Or something with the comedy network.
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Go talk to a recruiter.