in  discussions  with friends tonight, a Southern  Baptist brought up  the point there is a 3 day period between death  and  when one appears  outside the pearly gates to see if  your  name in da book and  to be judged by St.Peter.. said was  because  Jesus  rose on the 3rd. day.\n where is "the  soul" supposed to be during this  time ?
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That's complete crap.\n\nYou won't find any such information in the Bible.\n\nSeriously.  Ask your friend to show it to you.
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JESUS SAID THE DEAD WERE ASLEEP WAITING FOR THE RESURRECTION\n\nGenesis 3:19  In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.  KJ Bible\n\nEcclesiastes 9:10  Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.  KJ Bible\n\nNow think about it: What happened to Lazarus when he died? Did some part of him—a soul or a spirit—leave his body and go to live somewhere else? Did Lazarus’ soul go to heaven? Was he alive for four days up there with God and the holy angels?—\n\nNo, he wasn’t. Remember, Jesus said Lazarus was sleeping. What is it like when you are asleep? When you are in a very deep sleep, you do not know what is going on around you, do you?— And when you wake up, you do not know how long you have been sleeping until you look at a clock.\n\nIt is like that with dead people. They do not know anything. They do not feel anything. And they cannot do anything. That is the way it was with Lazarus when he was dead. Death is like a deep sleep where a person doesn’t remember anything. The Bible says: “As for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.”—Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10.\n\nThink about this too: If Lazarus had been in heaven for those four days, would he not have said something about it?— And if he had been in heaven, would Jesus have made him come back to earth from that wonderful place?— Of course not!\n\n, many people say that we have a soul, and they say that the soul lives on after the body dies. They say that Lazarus’ soul was alive somewhere. But the Bible does not say that. It says that God made the first man Adam “a living soul.” Adam was a soul. The Bible also says that when Adam sinned, he died. He became a “dead soul,” and he returned to the dust from which he had been made. The Bible also says that all Adam’s offspring inherited sin and death too.—Genesis 2:7; 3:17-19; Numbers 6:6; Romans 5:12.\n\nClearly, then, we do not have a soul that is separate from our body. Each one of us is a soul. And since people have inherited sin from the first man, Adam, the Bible says: ‘The soul that sins will die.’—Ezekiel 18:4.\n\nNumbers 31:28  And levy a tribute unto the LORD of the men of war which went out to battle: one soul of five hundred, both of the persons, and of the beeves, and of the asses, and of the sheep:  KJ Bible\nTHIS SCRIPTURE SHOWS THAT HUMANS & ANIMALS ARE "SOULS"\n\n32 What is this “death”? Death is the opposite of life. God had held before man the prospect of endless life on earth if he obeyed. However, he disobeyed, and the penalty was death, unconsciousness, nonexistence. God had said nothing about transferring man’s life to a spirit realm or to a fiery “hell” if he disobeyed and died. He had warned man: “You will positively die.” It was the man-slaying Devil who had lied in saying: “You positively will not die.” (Genesis 2:17; 3:4; John 8:44) What all men have inherited from Adam is dustlike death.—Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10; Psalm 115:17; 146:4.\n\nYOU JUST GO TO SLEEP, WHEN JESUS COMES THE SECOND TIME, IF YOU ARE WORTHY OF A RESURRECTION, HE WILL WAKE YOU UP.
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Black & white, male & female are all aspects of the human physical body.  They will pass and be replaced by our eternal spiritual body.  No sterotypical soul exists because the soul is not dependent on the body.  It exists as an entity in itself.  Otherwise, when the body dies, you would have to believe that the soul goes with it.\n\nBaptist & Jewish, etc. are views or doctrines.  They are not the soul.  They make up part of the mind.  However, those views and doctrines do affect the mind and thus have an impact on the soul.\n\nBottom line, no...souls are not stereotypical.  And I can't wait to get to heaven and see the looks on the faces of those who thought there was really something called a "black church" or a "white church" or only a Catholic Church or Baptist Church (I'm referring to those who believe that only certain denominations of Christians will inherit Heaven).  I think that we all are going to be shocked at what exists and how it all exists in eternity.  And I can't wait to be a part of it all.  When we get there, I believe that we WILL be stereotypical.  We will all be the Saints of God!
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Can ya stick with me for a bit? This is really cool stuff, and I love studying it. Daniel is my favorite book in the Bible - it makes so much sense!\n\nOk, here we go.\n\nThe 2300 day prophecy is found in Daniel 8:14. This prophecy given in Daniel 8 was so overwhelming to Daniel that at the end of it he actually fainted and was sick for days! Later, in chapter 9, we find Daniel praying and being very concerned for the deliverance of his people back to Jerusalem. The angel Gabriel was sent to help him understand the vision (Daniel 9:20-23). What vision? Well, there's been no vision since the one in Daniel 8, so we're obviously going to get an explanation on that.\n\nVerse 24 says that 70 weeks are determined for the Jewish people. Determined from what? Well, the only other time period we've heard about is the 2300 days. So, we can say that the 70 weeks come from the 2300 days. 70 weeks = 490 days (70x7).\n\nNow, verse 25 gives us a start date. It says that from the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince would be seven weeks and threescore and two weeks. A score is 20, so we can see it's 7+60+2. That equals 69, right? So, 69 weeks, or 483 days, from the time of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem, Messiah the prince would come.\n\nVerse 26 says that sometime after 62 weeks (the 62 weeks that come after the 7 weeks, see verse 25) the Messiah would be cut off, but not for himself (a prediction of Jesus' death). Verse 27 says that he would confirm the covenant with many for one week, and during the middle of the week he would cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease. If you add all this up, you see that we have a 70 week time prophecy in verse 24 that is broken up into 7 weeks, 62 weeks, and 1 week. It would only make sense for these weeks to be consecutive.\n\nBefore going any farther, we have to establish something: in Bible prophecy, a day equals a year. See Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6. So, we are actually talking about 2300 literal years here.\n\nNow, verse 25 says that this time period begins with the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem. At the time that Daniel is seeing this vision, the Jewish nation is in captivity in Babylon and Jerusalem and the temple are in ruins. However, shortly thereafter, the Persian king decreed that the Jews could go back to Jerusalem. There are actually 3 decrees giving them permission to return to Jerusalem, but it was only the last one, given in 457 BC, that commanded that they could rebuild the wall. \n\nSo, this is where it gets cool. Begin in 457 BC and add 483 years (remember, 7 weeks plus 60 weeks plus 2 weeks = 69 weeks = 483 days = 483 years) and you end up exactly at 27 AD. (Actually, using raw math, you end up at 26 AD, but there was no zero year between BC and AD, so it jumps up to 27 AD. What happened in 27 AD? That is precisely when Jesus was baptized in the river by John the Baptist and began his public ministry (see Luke 2:1-3 and then check any history records if you have any doubt about this year). The word "Messiah" means "anointed one", and Jesus was anointed by the Holy Spirit at his baptism. This came right on time, to the very year.\n\nThen, verse 27 says that he would confirm the covenant with many for one week, and in the midst of the week he would cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. Well, if one week = 7 days, then half a week would equal 3 1/2 days, right? And remember, days are actually years... Jesus' ministry was exactly 3 1/2 years (he was baptized in the fall of AD 27 and was crucified in the spring of AD 31). At this time, the temple services stopped. In fact, at his death, the curtain in the temple was torn from top to bottom (Matthew 27:50,51), signifying the end of the need of sacrifices and services pointing to Jesus' death. Amazing, isn't it?\n\nNow, remember that all of this time is taken from those original 70 weeks, or 490 years, in verse 24. It says t
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The answer to that question can be found in 2 Corinthians 4:4: "The god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers...."\n\nSome additional information is at 2 Timothy 4:3 - : “There will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled.”\n\nOh, and one more point: Ezekial 18:4 & 20 say that "The SOUL that sins WILL DIE." Of course the context refers to the fact that we are all responsible for our own actions, but the end result for sin is that death of the soul. One cannot get around it.\n\nDeath is unconsciousness, according to Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6 and Psalm 146:4.
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Heron by the Sea, I still stick to my answer below, but I appreciate your information.\n\nSchneb, I appreciate your kind words,   Bill\n\nTime of his death. \n\nThe death of Jesus Christ took place in the spring, on the Passover Day, Nisan (or Abib) 14, according to the Jewish calendar. (Mt 26:2; Joh 13:1-3; Ex 12:1-6; 13:4) That year the Passover occurred on the sixth day of the week (counted by the Jews as from sundown on Thursday to sundown on Friday). This is evident from John 19:31, which shows that the following day was “a great” sabbath. The day after Passover was always a sabbath, no matter on what day of the week it came. (Le 23:5-7) But when this special Sabbath coincided with the regular Sabbath (the seventh day of the week), it became “a great one.” So Jesus’ death took place on Friday, Nisan 14, by about 3:00 p.m.—Lu 23:44-46.
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I think it's because (in part,anyway..Satan is another but that'd take longer than you and I have here! LOL) anything different is suspect.  Jesus instructed his followers to be "no part of this world" just as he was not (John 17:16)and that to be friends with the world was to have emnity with God (James 4:4) Because we try as best we can to follow in Jesus and his early disciples footsteps, we too try to be no part of this world.  We cannot literally be no part, or we wouldn't be alive, so we stay away from the things the world considers important : much of the entertainment, celebrating of pagan-originating holy days,etc. That makes us stand out like sore thumbs to begin with, but THEN we come to your door every Saturday morning, trying to share what we believe to be literal life-saving truths from the Bible!!! LOL!!\nPeople are always afraid of what they don't understand. We never expect EVERYONE to come to believe as we do, but those who are not afraid are those who have learned FROM US what we believe. They may not agree, but neither do they have misinformation about us, either!  Thank you for this opportunity this evening to share with you! It's been great!!!
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I believe there are spirits around, both good and bad.  One group of spirits are messengers/angels of God, and the other group consists of the evil demons.  That is why the Lord told us to test the spirits whether they are from Him or not.  I have personally heard both kinds (not seen) so I know for a fact that there are spirits working in the world today.\n\nI believe that we are judged at the moment of death.  Heaven is not empty, according to revelations.  There are souls there waiting for God to take vengeance on their behalf.  Millions upon millions are already in heaven. \n\n IMO when Jesus returns, the people who are dead in Christ, meaning the believers that have died before the "rapture" will have their soul (which is already with God) united with a glorified body and they will be resurrected. Next the believers that are alive at the time of the "rapture" will be "caught up" to Jesus in the clouds.  They too will receive a glorified body united with their spirit.  This all occurs in the twinkling of an eye.  The point is our corruptible flesh body, which is dead and returns to dust, must put on an incorruptible, new, glorified body...then we are resurrected, body and spirit.  A believer has already been judged at this point, otherwise, no one would be "caught up" to Jesus.  \n\nThe judgment for all people that are left, during the tribulation period, are judged with the sheep/believers on the right and the goats/ unbelievers on the left.\n\nI kind of went off there.  To answer your question:  Our souls go directly to God and are judged upon death of our physical body. Believers go to paradise/heaven; Unbelievers go to hades/hell. There is a separate judgment at the very end for people that were not raptured and had to live through the tribulation.  I do believe there are spirits both good and bad here in the world.  I don't think "grandpa Joe" is haunting the attic.  The spirits I'm talking about are angels or demons and we are to test them.
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Don't worry your little head over it, they said the same thing about 6/6/66. It ain't gonna happen, all date setting is useless. The Father Only, had this information, during the Incarnation of Jesus. He kept it in His Own Power & Devine Knowledge till Jesus returned to Heaven & once again took His Seat as God. The Bible says, "He willingly laid aside His Godhood, not thinking It to be something to hold on to. So He could taste Death for every man. Having done so He returned to Heaven, and we know Him no more after the flesh." He took up His Godhood, and now when He returns, He comes back as God Almighty. No man will be able to hurt Him as they did 2,000 years ago. He will slay 200,000,000 with the Sword of His Mouth (His Word) and split the Mount of Olives in two when He arrives at Jerusalem, after Armageddon is finished. Then the Jews will recognize Him as Messiah,  "When they look upon Him Whom they pierced." The nimber 666 is the numerical value of the name of a man who will become the anti-christ. There are 3 things that will be used in the anti-christ kingdom for people that wish to buy or sell. 1. His Mark (currently unknown) 2. His name (currently unknown) 3. The number of his name (666 currently all we know of the anti-christ) The Scriptures call him "the king of the North" "the Assyrian, the oppressor of God's People." This points to modern day Syria, it is due North of Jerusalem. Keep your eyes on Syria, I think the anti-christ will prove the Scriptures Right once again. By the way, God's Name adds up to 777 & Jesus adds up to 888. God's being Perfect Completeness & Jesus' being the number of New Beginnings. 6,000 yrs from Adam, 1,000 yrs for the Millinium equals 7,000 years. Eternity begins at the end of Jesus' 1,000 year Reign. God Bless, Pastor "B"
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Also look at the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus (the beggar).\n\nImmediately after a person dies, their soul goes to be with God in heaven (if they are saved) or goes to a holding area that is Hell, or is like Hell (if they are not saved) while they wait for Judgment day.\n\nAt the Judgment, the bodies of the dead will be raised (or resurrected) and united with their souls. On Judgment day, God will pronounce eternal judgment on the unsaved (and provide rewards or remove rewards from the saved, depending on the extent to which they obeyed God while on earth).\n\nAfter the Judgment, the saved will continue to be with God in heaven. And the unsaved will be punished (to an extent that matches the degree of thier sins). In some versions of Christian theology, the unsaved will then be destroyed. In other versions of Christian theology, the unsaved will continue to experience negative consequences for the lives they lived (but the more evil they were the worse the negative consequences; and the less evil they were, the less the negative consequences).\n\nSo, the Judgment is really a proclamation (or confirmation) of Judgment -- rather than a place where a person's fate is to be discussed, evaluated and then decided upon.\n\nCordially,\nJohn\nhttp://www.GodSci.org\n[God and Science]
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Interesting scripure. But I'm also interested in this: the term 'last days' has been mentioned, and keeping in mind two things: the lord's overwhelming power to stretch and shrink time, combined with the fact that the last 2000 years there have been scoffers like mentioned above, when exactly will these 'days' end? This could take thousands of years, or be in a minute. But in that very minute a 'scoffer' *could* convert to the true faith, so if the lord is truly patient, he'd wait that minute too, or those thousands years, else it wouldn't be fair, I'd say.\n\nAnd tell me this: I am no scoffer, but in your eyes I'd probably be. But which of my desires are actually evil? My strongest desires are that people all over the world be stopped by blind judging other people, that people actually think before they act, that they take other people in mind when they take decisions that might effect them, in short that they respect other people and let them be. Another desire of mine is that helping people develop themselves, seek out their potentials, and enhance them, that they enjoy living in this beautiful world, and teach other people to enjoy too.\n\nBut since I don't need Jesus to actually do this, I am truly an ungodly man and I shall be destroyed by your lord.\n\nIf I'm to be judged by someone who doesn't look at my actions or my desires behind them, but at my lack of faith, and still wants to destroy me, please, let him do his thing, for I have nothing to be ashamed of and I rather live in hell knowing I have done right, than living in heaven for being a hypocrite.
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I had years of misunderstanding about this myself because I thought that it meant that Christ spent 72 hours in the tomb. However, it means that He spent a part of three days in the tomb. See, Friday was the day He died and was buried. That was the first say. Saturday was the only whole day and was the second day. Then He rose on the third day, which was Sunday. The most important parts of this are the Death and Resurrection of Christ. Not the 72 hours or less. God Bless You for wanting to know. For more info on the atonement of Christ go to www.mormon.org.
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okay...  i'm **NOT** a christian, but let's say they're right for the purpose of discussion...\n\nif god made the world in six days and rested on the seventh..  what's a "day" to one who's existed for all time?  his day could be a trillion years to us wee mortals.
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Christians believe that when the physical body dies, the soul passes into another reality.  It is like going through a spiritual gateway.  You then enter heaven or hell.  Or, some Christians believe that you lie in a state of sleep, til judgment day.\n\nJesus actally came back from death.  Three days after he was placed in his tomb, it was reopened and there was no body there.
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I haven't heard anything about JESUS CHRIST's death occuring at 3 am in the morning,Biblically I think that occured in the 9th hour. I know from experience that 3 am happens to be the time of the morning that most demonic attacks do occur.  Most people believe 12 midnight to be the witching hour, but it is not.  The majority of the rituals preformed with the intent of doing harm begin at 1 in the morning and end up around 2:55 with the final casting and sending out of demons occuring at that time.  I have heard many preachers who dealt with the druid/wiccan/pagan/devil worship community comment on being attacked at around that time of the "night".\n\nTo clarify, I do not practice these things, I am a follower of JESUS CHRIST.  I know what I know from past experiences.\n\nGOD BLESS AND KEEP HIS CHILDREN IN HIS CARE ALWAYS!
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Interesting point, but I thought the whole "second coming" was promised to the disciples AFTER the resurrection. In that case, no.
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I think weve been heading to the end times since Jesus was on Earth. Everyone since then thought they were living in the end times, just like some now do, so thats nothing new. i dont think weve been living it this whole time, but rather living in what proceeds it. Hope that makes sense.