Where do you find this concept in the bible?\nPlease convincing bible quotes only...Or if you got a theory that explains the origin of this "freewill" theory give me.\n\nDon't quote Genesis, I read that and it's not freewill cause Adam and Eve didn't know good from evil or wrong from right till they ate of the "tree of knowledge"...So freewill only came afer that. So no discussing Adam and Eve.
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Yes freewill is an invention; we are destined; however under extra ordinary circumstances destiny will change.
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jesus, he came up with the idea of free will in the first place.\nbut then again, we did go along with his idea, soo, WE ALL ARE! it was our choice in heaven. i mean, we coulda went with the "non-free will, totalitarianism" idea that lucifer had, but what fun would that of been?
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First of all, we don't know what fruit it was.  The Bible never says an apple.  Second of all, if Adam and Eve hadn't eaten of the forbidden fruit they would have never become mortal and had children.  We would not even be here today, only Adam and Eve would still be livingin the Garden of Eden.  So Eve's partaking of the forbidden fruit, from the tree of knowledge of good and evil was the most wonderful thing that could have ever taken place.  Without Eve's actions you wouldn't be sitting in front of a computer terminal asking this question.
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I believe that a literal interpretation of Genesis is ignorant.  I believe that Genesis is a Christian mythology and I have scholars on my side.  The whole creation story is symbolic.  When it was written, we didn't have science to explain how the earth or its inhabitants were created, so the writer had to explain it in a way that people living at the time would understand.  The Adam and Eve story, I believe is symbolic of emerging societies.  Adam and Eve living in paradise are symbolic to small nomadic groups of people living apart from each other.  They are kicked out of paradise when nomadic groups began to experience conditions that threatened their survival - hot sun, cold winters and learned about the fragility of life and death.  They had two children, Cain and Able - this symbolizes the population getting larger and when Cain killed Able, this is symbolic for fighting and wars between individuals and groups of people with differing ideas.
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No one created the tree, it was planted. That god can't create, he can only "form" and "plant" and clone what already exists. He was a mad scientist. The tree is knowledge and that god didn't want Eve & Adam to have it [knowledge]. What sort of god is this? Eve [who is life], was much wiser and desired wisdom, her husband Adam [the intellectual mammal] was stupid. So then Zoe (daughter of the holy spirit; consort of the cosmic christ) opened their eyes and liberated them [joined them to become one again] (for this reason the man will leave his parents and join to his wife and they will become one being again; when you make the two into one, and there is neither male nor female, you will enter the kingdom; gospel of Thomas). Then Ialdaboath the tyrant became furious because they became one again (I and the Father are one), and cursed christ's daughter [the serpent] and he also cursed what he created (actually what he formed, he "forms the light" that christ's father creates; bends time-space; second law of thermodynamics; entropy). God is invisible light (knowledge). That's level three of the Myth.
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If you buy into Judeo-Christian mythology, God is the author of free will.  Satan is not a creator, but a perverter, and thus could not give to Adam and Eve an inherent quality that they did not already possess.
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I don't think that we "blame" anyone. Eve ate the fruit first and Adam later. They both sinned and that sin has been passed on to all the human race.No sence blaming anyone lets just learn how to rectify the situation through Jesus Christ.
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1. "Hung" is an interesting word to use, but I'll go along with it.\n\n2. Well, interpreting this literally, then I suppose my house had several: at least one architect, a bunch of builders, a plumber or two, the list is endless...\n\n3. Pretty much.\n\n4. OK\n\n5. Now this one opens up a whole new can of worms, but I suppose, broadly, I can accept this.  In fact, it's an interesting one when you bear in mind that the bible was written by some of the most intelligent men of their era.  Naturally, they would have been pre-occupied with some of the same things that our present great minds think about (such as the nature of the universe and time).  Of course, they didn't have the benefit of as long a scientific and philosophical tradition as we have.\n\n6. Yup. They'd probably stone you to death.  I'm really finding it hard to see your point with this one, however. Please explain.\n\n7. Fair enough.\n\n8. Another can of worms.  It depends on your definition of "better". From our point of view, altruism - which is what you're describing - is preferable.  The best explanation for the reason for that is that altruism was a beneficial trait during our evolution.  This idea is covered by group selection theory.  So if you look at it from that point of view, "love your fellow-men as you love yourself" actually CONTRIBUTES to the survival of the fittest (have a look at the link below before you dismiss this out of hand).\n\nANSWER.\n\nI suppose I can, for the sake of argument, say that I broadly agree with all of the eight premises you've outlined.  I also believe that some of the morals encouraged by the bible and by religion in general are beneficial.  Many of the teachings of Jesus Christ (who I believe existed as a mortal man) are also compelling as a model of the values that it is a good idea to try to live your life by.\n\nWhat I don't believe in is the idea of an intelligent creator.  Nor do I believe in the existence of an afterlife, no matter how much I WISH it could be true.
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*****Does anyone /really/ know what the forbidden fruit was?****? \n\nif your looking for a literal fruit? the Bible does not say.\n\nwhat the Bible does say is it was of the Tree of Good & Evil.
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good point.  you've discovered another fatal flaw in the bible.\n\ngod knows the future and the past.  he already knows how everything turns out.  he already knows who exercises free will, who doesn't, and how they exercise it.  he already knows the outcome.\n\nthere is no need for any of this.  he already knows the future and how we all turn out.\n\nit also begs the question...why would a god put things into motion, when he knows the future, an knows he would have to flood the entire earth, killing everyone?  he already knew that was the future, he knew he'd have to do that.  so why set things in motion when you know you eventually have to kill all your children?\n\nand why inspire a bible, so ridiculous and poorly written that, after over 2000 years, less than 30% of the people on earth believe it?\n\nchristianity is total and utter nonsense, and is based on so many fatal flaws in its own theory, myth and certainly fatal flaws in basic logic, i'm surprised people are really ignorant enough to follow it.
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That is a great question that we will unfortunately never find the accurate answer to.\nAlthough, it only says in the Bible that Adam and Eve were the FIRST man and woman God created...I don't think it ever said they were the ONLY one's he created, if your looking for answers regarding the Bible.\nI'd also like to add that genetically, it's next to impossible to have a healthy child created in incest, especially as close as brother and sister. If those problems exist now, then reason says they would exist way back then as well. So, I think either God created more people, or Adam and Eve were the first "modern humans" along the evolution chain. I'm a bit undecided about it since I believe in God along with evolution...kind of weird, huh?
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The concept of evolution as an explanation for the origins of life is flawed. The theory of evolution explains the origins of species, but not the origins of life. A lump of premordial goo, no matter how well it could adapt to its environment, lacks DNA. The first cell must have had DNA to reproduce. Therefore, the first cell must have been created; that would not conflict with neither the Theory of Evolution nor the Bible. (Doesn't it say something like, "God created man from earth"? Anything organic is made from earth.)\n\nAnd that's why both the Bible and the Theory of Evolution are correct.
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Will, it self has no purpose, until the two words GOOD and Bad or added. I myself was not raised to believe that, God is threatening in anyway. Only warns that free will, doesn't mean that the commandments are invalid.  When you walk this world without knowing who created all things.  It's going to be a journey beyond!   We all sin, it's human nature. ( Adam and Eve)  Not saying it is accepted by God, but he is forgiving!
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"According to Christian mythology,"   It seems you have already made up your mind so I doubt you want us to confuse you with facts.\n\nStill, Yes we are actually told that God did create evil but HE did tell Adam and Eve from the very beginning that if they disobeyed the ONE thing they were told not to do, they would surely die.  \n\nIsaiah 45:7\n\nI form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.\n\nGod is not the author if sin, but HE did allow "evil" to be a result of sin\n\n\n\nWould a parent allow their child to do anything they wanted without any punishment?   I guess we would have to allow them to stay out as late as they wanted, to let them play in the streets and to let our 3 year old play with rattle snakes because if we punish them, we would be evil.  \n\nThe evil in this world is a direct result of SIN.  There is always a price to pay for sin and it always demands payment from those other then the ones doing it just as a child disobeying his/her parents will often effect their playmates.  \n\nIt is amazing that so many of you always want to blame a Holy GOD for things that HE wants to keep us from.  Then again, society wants to blame parents if their children break laws even though they want to take the rights of loving parents being able to chasten their children away.  \n\nYou want to avoid evil....then do it GOD'S way...not yours!
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I think that Adam and Eve represent a new beginning in Human-kind.  This next part is kinda nuts but i think it happened.  I think that Aliens landed around or in the city of Babylon, which is the place thought to be where the garden of Eden was located.  Anyways the aliens mated with the more ape like homo-sapiens of that time.  Adam and Eve where the children of this relationship.  Maybe this is the reason for the "Missing Link" in the evolution of man. Just a theory, i usually don't bring up because Christians get really upset about that idea.
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According to the bible, God specifically told Adam not to partake of the "forbidden fruit" (I am summarizing, not quoting), Adam disobeyed a direct order, and was ejected.  Free will is not a free pass to just freak out and do whatever the hell you want.  Free will cannot be used as a cop out.  God wants us to think for ourselves, (why, I have no idea), and to make the right decisions, to be good for goodness sake, basically.  That is what I think, I do not really expect anyone to agree with me, it makes too much sense.\n\n\nI am a Christian, it is not my place to judge others, I am just trying to be a good person.\n\n\nGod Bless You
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There was no green peace, democrats or womens rights organizations during the supposed time of Adam and Eve. And its nothing to do with Eve personally. I guess God wasnt worried about Adam eating it because he was to stupid to figure out what a "tree" or an "apple" were. A better question would be, who let the snake in? or Why did God create the tree and apple in the first place?