okay more details about Gomelez and Jesus and Joseph supposedly part of the Merovignians any Help?
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Jesus, Mary, and Joseph were not Merovingian. They were from the line of David, and were Jews who lived around 0 AD.\nI read your previous question. I don't know why you would think this; it's absurd. They were centuries apart. People didn't even HAVE last names back when Jesus was alive. They called you Nathaniel, son of David, or what-have-you. \nAccording to wiki, the Merovingians were a dynasty of Frankish kings who ruled a frequently fluctuating area in parts of the present-day Low Countries, France and Germany from the fifth to the eighth century. They were sometimes referred to as the "long-haired kings" (Latin reges criniti) by contemporaries, for their symbolically unshorn hair (traditionally the tribal leader of the Franks wore his hair long, while the warriors trimmed it short). The term is drawn directly from Germanic, akin to their dynasty's Old English name Merewīowing.
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Please refer to the Gospel accounts in the Bible (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John).  You will note that Mary & Joseph did have sons so Jesus did have "half" brothers (in an earthly sense).  But remember that Jesus was all God and all Man.  Mary was just the way he entered the world as human. So technically, he was an only child - the Son of God.
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As the Jewish, Historical documentation is concerned, the line is always through the man, even if it is wifes linage.  If you notice, the linage in Matthew is different from the one in Luke 3.\n\nThe linage in Matthew is that of Mary, the one in Luke is that of Joseph.  And Luke states in verse 23\n\nNow Jesus Himself began His ministry at about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph\n\nDo some research on the different authors of the Gospels to see why they wrote from these different perspectives.
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The Joseph you refer to I presume, would be Jacobs 11th son, sent to Egypt in slavery by his older brothers. I seer/interpreter of dreams. Grew to be very wise, saved the Hebrew people during famine. \n  As far as Joshua, I believe he did lead the Jewish people into the promised land. It was Moses and his brother Aaron who could not go in. As well as all the adults who had doubted God during their 40 yrs. exile out of Egypt. read in Genesis/Exodus/Deuteronomy
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Yes they were but the Bible says that Joseph didn't have relations with her until after Jesus was born.  That's why His earthly brothers were His half-brothers.
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Jesus followed the trade of Joseph which was a carpender not a plummer (they didnt have plumming like we have it)  And Jesus did not have a heavy italian accent.  He lived in what we call the Middle East.
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We cannot really argue who Jesus was according to the Bible, because of the agreed lack of a process of authentic transmission. Can we really put our faith into an English translation of a Greek/Latin translation of another translation of another translation of Aramaic/Hebrew/Syriac writings of Hellenistic Jews who never met Jesus and, according to the Bible actually fought against the Original Disciples and their teachings? Even the sincere men who put together the most accurate translation to date (NIV) say that we still know very little about Jesus. \n\nHence as much as it is great to see passion in believing in Jesus, I hope that we can be sincere enough to review our beliefs for the sake of God. May God guide us all.
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<">Jesus had both 1/2 brothers and sisters. no record that I know of exist of what any of his sisters reported.\nHis brother James did write one of the epistles.\nThere is of course only one Jesus
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Joseph is considered to be God.
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Is it possible that out of over thirty false messiahs running around during the second temple era, Christians fell for a fake?\n\nJesus could not possible be the Messiah, do you even know what the Messiah is supposed to do? Why didn't he do everything?\n\nI know I know, he will do it when he comes back right? Using that logic ANYONE could be the Messiah. Do you know who Shimon bar Kokhba is? \n\nHe was a figure who many thought might be the Messiah (and who actually met more of the Criteria then Jesus)do you no why he wasn't declared the Messiah? because he didn't fulfill the prophecies. But you know maybe he is coming back and he will fulfill the prophecies then.\n\nGive me a break!!!!\n\nDo you even know the criteria?\n\nFirst of all, he must be Jewish - "...you may appoint a king over you, whom the L-rd your G-d shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you." (Deuteronomy 17:15)\n\nHe must be a member of the tribe of Judah - "The staff shall not depart from Judah, nor the sceptre from between his feet..." (Genesis 49:10)\n\nTo be a member of the tribe of Judah, the person must have a biological father who is a member of the tribe of Judah.\n\nHe must be a direct male descendant of King David and King Solomon, his son - "And when your days (David) are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who shall issue from your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for my name, and I will make firm the throne of his kingdom forever..." (2 Samuel 7:12 - 13)\n\nThe genealogy of the New Testament is inconsistent. While it gives two accounts of the genealogy of Joseph, it states clearly that he is not the biological father of Jesus. One of the genealogies is through Nathan and not Solomon altogether!\n\nHe must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel -"And he shall set up a banner for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth." (Isaiah 11:12)\n\nAre all Jews living in Israel? Have all Jews EVER lived in Israel since the time of Jesus?\n\nHe must rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem - "...and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and my tabernacle shall be with them.." (Ezekiel 37:26 - 27)\n\nAt last check, there is NO Temple in Jerusalem. And worse, it was shortly after Jesus died that the Temple was DESTROYED! Just the opposite of this prophecy!\n\nHe will rule at a time of world-wide peace - "...they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore." (Micah 4:3)askyourself...\n\nHave you seen a newspaper lately? Are we living in a state of complete world peace? Has there ever been peace since the time of Jesus?\n\nHe will rule at a time when the Jewish people will observe G-d's commandments - "My servant David shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall follow My ordinances and be careful to observe My statutes." (Ezekiel 37:24)\n\nThe Torah is the Jewish guide to life, and its commandments are the ones referred to here. Do all Jews observe all the commandments? Christianity, in fact, often discourages observance of the commandments in Torah, in complete opposition to this prophecy.\n\nHe will rule at a time when all people will come to acknowledge and serve one G-d - "And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, says the L-rd" (Isaiah 66:23)\n\nthere are still millions if not billions of people in the world today who adhere to paganistic and polytheistic religions. It is clear that we have not yet seen this period of human history unfold.\n\nAll of these criteria are best stated in the book of Ezekie
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Yeah, it was a bold move. Break away from the main religion by claiming the old god had a kid and basing the new religion off of him.\n\nNowadays, christians spin off new sects by simply putting different words in the mouth of the same god (and his kid.)\n\nMaybe the public exposure of the Mergovian bloodline will prompt a few great-great-umpty-great-grandkids of Jesus to form their own little religion. They'd have to be killed off soon after, can't have a real live savior running loose embarassing his followers...
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Intersting that the only reference cited outside the bible is Josefus, who never mentioned Jesus. Any reference to Jesus in his writing was added 1000 years later by other 'christians 'trying to strengthen their arguement.\n\nGreenleaf may have decided that the story was real but I don't believe that it would stand up in court. It would be interesting to look at his background.
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I don't remember reading that, but if you want to look for yourself, here's a GREAT website:  www.biblegateway.net.  totally searchable in lots of versions and languages.  (by the way, I typed Jesus and hell into the search and came up empty, to save you some time)
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Your question is most pertinent. As a man of the time, it would have been considered downright weird for a man of Yeshua's age not to have a family for the prevailing culture and mores of the region. \n\n"Yeshua" is the more correct name. There was no "J" until the 1600s. It's dotted because it was descended from the "i" and was pronounced similarly. \n\nThis is just another factor in the confused history of the person we have to come to know as Jesus of Nazareth.\n\nThe early church, later the Medieval Catholic church, suppressed this knowledge because it conflicted with their dogma that was arrived at after cennturies of meetings some called Diets.\n\nIt was in those conclaves from the AD 600s to the 1400s that the agreed-upon dogma on the the four Synoptic Gospels (out of at least 12!); the Virgin Birth, and the Immaculate Conception (which is associated with Maryam, Yeshua's mother but that's an entire article!) were straightened out. Dissenters were dealt with harshly.\n\nThe process of tinkering goes on even in our time. Vatican I and II were major Catholic Church revisions that got rid of the Vulgate Latin language masses, and brought down the priesthood from a loftier level.\n\nI have traveled to Jerusalem and the Mediterranean and seen many things for myself. See some of the the pictures from Jerusalem and the Vatican at: \n\nhttp://community.webshots.com/user/travelgriot97 \n\nAlso, check out my articles on "The Real Reasons For The Seasons" at\n\nhttp://www.blackwebportal.com/wire/DA.cfm?ArticleID=2558 \n\nMany of the things we have been given to believe just isn't so. Your questions again are very reasonable; indeed there will be much discussion of these and accepted knowledge with the movies and books coming out. \n\nKeep seeking the truth. There are interesting but disturbing pathways you'll encounter along the way. --kjw
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Mary and Joseph did screw around,\nJames came from them and did abound.\nHe is Jesus brother, or half-brother if you will,\nThey had sex, yes, that's the deal.
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go ongoogle and tipe in luke gospel\nyou will find alot of sites about it and then choose the best one and get your answers there or try this one\nhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09420a.htm it will come up as the secind site on google search
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Ha, what a pile of garbage. True the messiah was supposed to be a descendent of king David but that decent is patrilineal (from father to son) Mathew in the first part even shows how jesus was this though his father Josef. But wait. I thought that Jesus was the son of G-d so he cant be a descendant of king David. Strike one. They shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more." Isaiah 2:4. This is Isaiah’s prediction of what the messiah supposed to do. Basically world peace look around you. Strike two. The messiah was also supposed to restore the temple in Jerusalem and gather the Jews back to Israel. The temple still has not been built and more than ½ of Jews today don’t live in Israel. Strike three. Jesus is out of there.\nThe truth is Jesus did not fulfill ANY of the requirements to be the messiah. And NO WHERE dose it say any in the writings before Jesus thing about someone coming to cleanse sin or getting a second chance at it latter. (if you want the bible quotes to support the rest of my augment email me at Gratvol@yahoo.com)\n\n\n\noh and dcomputerman if all you needed to be was the son of a woman descendant of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and from the tribe of Judah line of King David I have just a good chance of being the Messiah as Jesus did.