Who do you think is better chavs or gangsters or goths and punks and grungers?
969042
i like everyone with a personality not what they categorise themselves as
152007
Grunge.  Nirvana.  It was as defining as the British Invasion of the sixties.
315073
MTV and the likes, don't create the fashions or style the just exploit them.  Punk is a style and we have to deal with it just as much as we have to deal with the overly conservative.  Learn tolerance.
812713
Old school punk is the best....bands like The Damned, The Ramones, The Buzzcocks, etc!!!!
1163789
Its hard to compare, because the MISFITS (agressive punk) ( with danzig) are more punk, Danzig also has much agression but, his voice relays more than when he was in the MISFITS, misfits angst came from the speed and obnoxiuos lyrics.  I cant do with out both, but if i had to pick one cd from each of their collections it would have to be LUCIFUGE DANZIG II
591039
Absolutely not.  They were quite left-wing, not right-wing.  There were some nazi punk bands in the West Coast scene (see Dead Kennedys "Nazi Punks F*ck Off" as reference), but BF and Henry Rollins were never a part of that, and their lyrics have never been racist at all.\n~~~~~\nAdded: Skinhead culture was originally a punk thing that was taken up by nazi punks.  Once the nazi punks made skinheads synonymous with racism, most punks grew their hair or proclaimed themselves to be "SHARPs" (SkinHeads Against Racial Prejudice).  Just because someone's a skinhead does not make them racist.
536783
Pantera, they rock but they also party just a little to hard. Too bad about dime-bag though.
440483
because there are some old fogey punks who refuse to believe that anyone besides the Ramones and possibly the Clash are real punks.\n\nheh.  as soon as i posted this, my computer started playing me some Clash.  is that a sign?
1105405
I think that chavs are slowly becoming aware that they have been classified into a group- which may not be a good thing! Chavs seem to take great pride in being the bane of British life, typically characterised by socks worn inside trousers, a baseball cap perched on top of a shaven head, numerous gold hoops and bling bling chains bulk bought from Argus store nationwide. And for the chavette (either Trish,Chantelle, or Chardonnay Mercedes)the obligatory item is the screaming baby chav that throws the ready meals out of the pram as fast as his mother can throw in. \n Have a look at www.chavscum.com- it's hilarious.\n I think these people are increasingly taking pride in their commoness, a kind of workers rebellion against the middle class masses. It's scary, they could take over the British empire and become the new ruling class, theres that many of them.
325909
Goth primarily is about music and fashion.  In my opinion it grew out of the new wave music scene when things started to get 'dark' in sound.  It's interrelated to industrial music as well and you'll find most goths tend to be into industrial.  The social center of the goth scene tends to be the nightclubs where people put on their finest goth threads and go out and mingle with other goths and listen to music. It's fun, it's sexy, and for the most part that's as deep as it gets.\n\nUnlike punk, goth has no consensual political viewpoint.\n\nIn short, it's all about the music.
318642
Id say they where probly both very influentual (and still are) in their own ways. They influenced two different musuc era's. In my opinion john Lennon projected peace and harmony and Kurt Cobain projected aggressiveness and individuality. And since i believe in the peace to all thying i'd like to say that Lennon gets my vote.
275837
a poser is someone pretending to be someone they are not, correct? i dont think they hide the fact that they suck terribly so i guess neither cuz they sure as hell arent punk.
948121
Goths are the ones who think they are superior than "normals" of a society they cannot define, but throw the word around a lot. Wears black, boots, long coats, concert shirts of black metal bands or whatever. They wear all this crap over their face because they are "unique" but all look alike when you look at them in a whole. You can can tell one when they say "stop staring at me" or "I am unique and my own person" Yet they all wear black, white/dark make up and have all this crap in their face. Yeah no one is going to not stare at that and no you are not unique if you are labeled, groups of similarity are labeled, or else there would be no need to label! (That last part can go for each you asked of)\n\nEmos are the "new age" goths, but instead of black and all, they wear these "prep" clothes with a twist of "hardcore" They think everything is dramatic and out to make their lives crappy. When if they looked at themselves, they would see it is them that make their life miserable and not the ones around them. Emo(tional) they claim not all cut themselves, but when you look at majority, it is like goths they are labeled for a reason with their ways and actions. They area bunch of dramaqueens, and I say that for both boys and girls that partake in the 2004-present trend of todays dumb teens.\n\nPunk is against the "establishment" the almighty "Man" In other words they wold prefer anarchy so they can do whatever they want without consequences, they take no responsibility of their actions. Hippies in a way, but more on the extreme side, the anti-hippie, instead of peace and loving order, they prefer anarchy and do what they want without remorse. Bums really, mainly they are so stoned out their minds all they do is sit around complaining how the "Man" is keeping them down and trying to overthrow the "establishment" again what is this "establishment?"\n\nI could go on and on about these groups, and yes, some I have been with, and noticed they are all the same and well, they have labels for a reason and none of them are unique, if anything they are apart of their "society" "establishment" and crappy lives because it is all so dramatic and a harsh world. I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THEY GET OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND EXPERIENCE THE REAL WORLD!!
303687
Yes, thugs are wanna be gangsters.None of them have any common sense if you ask me.
652745
Anything considered "punk" after 1988 is Utter BS. The Punk/Anti-Athority generation was a bunch of poor white kids sick of authority and playing badass music. Latley everyone wants to be punk, but they aren't GreenDay went Punk, they came out as and during the "Alternative Rock" time, now they are "punk" cause they are Political...?!!? Everytime I see some Hot Topic Brand $200 wardrobe that make its self cool by looking like poverty-rags, I wanna kick some wannabe-punker a$$    Besides, You fight authority and fight the law and the law wins, your still against authority...period.  And next time you see someone under legal drinking age trying to look what THEY call Punk...Punch him/her...for me.
1071679
sex pistols they've been around longer\ni don't like either, but I have more respect for the sex pistols since they've been around for quite a while.
856053
"the poser's killed it"\n\n\n\nSorry just something my friend always says. I think it really depends on how you define the word punk.....