UK Residents with knowledge of Football Hooliganism?
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Firstly, please bear in mind that the movie is simply a cinematic dramatisation, and bears almost no relation to present day reality.\n\nSince around the early 1990s, organized fighting inside football stadiums is very rare indeed, and hundreds of thousands of people attend matches every week perfectly safely..This is mainly due to  improved policing and stewarding techniques, a ban on alcohol inside the stadiums, and the fact that all major stadiums now have no standing space and are entirely seated.\n\nPrior to this however, it is fair to say that there was an underground culture of organised  gangs ( or" firms" as they were called) at some, but certainly not all,  football clubs. These first started in the late 1960s, They would aim to attack the "firm" of the visiting team, although rarely with anything more than their fists. A visiting "firm" would aim to overrun their opponents ground and thereby humiliate them.  The "high point" of this violence was probably the brief period between about 1977 to 1986.\n\nWhilst the possibility of potential trouble did not deter the majority of peaceful fans from attending matches, it certainly made football grounds uncomfortable and unnerving places. \n\nThere are many interesting academic and sociological studies made of football hooliganism, but here is a link to a helpful and brief article published by the University of Liverpool.: http://www.liv.ac.uk/footballindustry/hooligan.html
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It has to be England or else the Hooligans will kill the other team!!!
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i certainly hope that england never get banned and i do believe that FIFA and UEFA and various football associations around the world are well aware that this is not just an english problem.i think the only way to totally stop football violence would be to ban football,which will obvioulsy never happen! \n\nas long as internationals take place there will always be rivalry.this, unfortunately, is nothing really to do with football,it's more to do with nationalistic pride,possibly old history,and man's natural urge to fight each other!\n\nIn many sports now there is violence,i just feel that it comes out more in football because most men are more passionate about football than other sports.\n\nAlso although england is accredited with inventing football hooligans,we are no nowhere near to being the worst in the world.look at matches played in the middle east,africa,poland,holland,south america,the derby between boca juniors and river plate,in argentina is more like a small war than a football match,resulting in over 200 deaths related to football violence in the last 100 years!el salvador and honduras went to war a few years ago after a play-off match between the 2!over 1000people died.\n\npolish,german and russian fans have been meeting in the woods recently to fight and to practice for this year's world cup.and mainly they want to fight the english.\n\nin the past english fans were responsible for many bad incidences of football violence.but on many occasions have been the victims of un-prevoked attacks and very bad and very heavy handed policing.\n\ni was at  the uefa cup final in 1984 between Spurs and Anderlecht,in Rotterdam.i was 18 at the time,travelling with my father,sister and friends.we were sat in a bar the night before the game with about 50 spurs fans,all behaving well,just having a few beers,when about 150 local dutch fans came in and attacked all the spurs fans,they weren't even fans of anderlecht who are from belgium!! there were many incidences like this all over the city that night.all the spurs fans were talking about it the next day.so about 5000 spurs fans rioted after the game because of the way they had been treated.who got blamed...the spurs fans!!\n\nthis happened in france 98 when the tunisians attacked the england fans.when they retaliated.they were blamed.\n\ni have been following spurs and england all over europe for 30years now and have witnessed a lot of bad behaviour from our fans,but probably 3times as much aggression has been directed towards us when we have done nothing wrong,from other nationalities.but always english get blamed.i don't condone football violence in anyway,but english are probably the proudest nation in the world,we never surrender and will never just stand by and take abuse if directed our way.if attacked we will respond.we will always defend ourselves,which i believe is right.so if police in germany want england fans to behave they should watch the hooligans from other countries and keep them well away from us!\n\nif you were to compile a list of the top 20 occasions of football violence ever to have occurred in the world..england would not be in it.more people have died in mid.east,africa,south america,even italy and holland!!\n\nin many of these countries they attack the players and referees as well.unheard of in uk. a columbian player was killed after returning from the world cup because he scored an own goal!\n\nso get off englands case.we are doing everything we can to stop hooligans.banning orders for all convicted fans,sending undercover police.so they cant travel to games.if other countries were as tough on their hooligans the problem would have virtually disappeared long ago.\n\nbut i think you have answered your own question..fans arrange to meet over the internet.they don,t even go to the games,so it will happen anyway!the sort of person who loves to fight will always find someone to fight.\n\ni hope this year's world cup is violence free,bu
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I don't think they do.  English supporters will jibe allot (and stand up for themselves), and some other foreign nationals fans can (and usually do) take it the wrong way.  The worst national fans I think you'll find are actually, Turkey (stabbed to death two LEEDS Fans, in an European game) and Italy.  NASTY!!!!!!\n\nMy BF went to the France world cup and told us of an incident where there were loads of English fans sitting in a park watching one of those big screens that had been set up to watch the game, and a load of (Argentinean I think) supporters started throwing bottles and bricks at into the crowd at them.\n\nThe French police were all standing there, so you'd think, that the Frenchies would turn around to sort out the argies.  Well NO it didn't happen.  The Frenchies came steaming in on the English and they hadn't even done a thing.  So not only where the English getting attacked from the Argie fans, but from the police themselves.  Just goes to show that foreigners will always automatically jump to conclusions and blame the wrong crowd just because of their nationality.\n\nAnd the big story that came out of that World cup.  \nIT WASN'T A GROUP ENGLISH FANS THAT KICKED THE HELL OUT OF AND THE HEAD IN OF A YOUNG FRENCH POLICE OFFICER WHICH KILLED HIM, DOWN THE SIDE OF AN ALLEY AFTER ONE OF THE GAMES !!!.  \nBut a group of Neo-Nazi Skin Head Germans (I think) Hooligans that weren't even out in France for the Football, but out to seek trouble wherever they could !!!
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I feel your pain! I'm going to be driving a fair bit over the next couple of weeks and it always seems to coincide with the best games, so I've had to formulate a contingency plan!\n\nI'll be listening on BBC Radio 5 Live on 909 and 693 medium wave, which you'll be able to pick up no problem. They do football properly and the commentary is always good, so that's my recommendation.\n\nCome on England!
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Try the guys who robbed the postal van containing about 1000 Fa cup final tickets
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Awesome!\nThat's when I started watching "Division One"! It was one game a week here in the USA. They would usually feature a Liverpool game because they were on top at that time. That's how I became to like ManYoo and West Ham. I've always went against the grain and rooted for the underdog.\n\n(However ManYoo caught fire and now I'm a "glory rider"....go figure)\n\nTry the official EPL website: http://www.premierleague.com\nor\nThe Rothman Football Yearbook\n \nGood luck!\n\nUp the Hammers! FA CUP Glory!
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In a pub with a whole lot of other football hooligans!
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Riots are related to football/soccer more than any other sport I know of. I don't agree about the passion of the fans statement above. There is no need for that. It's a group of people with no self control or respect. Rivalry should never be taken to extremes like that. It brings the game down as well as embarrasses the team or country that they represent. What is achieved by all the riots anyway. Nothing but arrests and injuries to other people and so many innocent people get caught in the cross fire. I think they should be ashamed of themselves but they won't be as they don't care.
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Hooligans are generally not 'passionate' fans of any given team, they go to games specifically to riot.  Nowadays it's pretty well organised with groups using cell phones, email and gps to coordinate acts.\n\nWhile a group may attach itself to a team they are not that teams loyal supporters.
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No I DON'T agree.\nNot all English football fans are hooligans lots of the are great.\n\nIt's not fair to wish a team loses just because you/we don't like some of their fans.\n\nYou/We can wish they lose for any other reason, But this one is not acceptable.
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Cette affaire me derange en tant que supporter du football le sport, le vrais ....!!! \nMaintenant, la mentalité des hooligans est surtout de cogner les supporter adverses qu'importe le résultat du match, je serais plutôt d'avis que quand on cherche les coups parfois on recolte les pots cassés ... je sais que les associations de supporters sont solidaires entres elles, mais c'est vraiment pas une bonne cause. \nJe voulais rajouter que l'angleterre n'est pas un exemple, car sa politique a été d'augmenter le prix des places pour empécher les hooligans de venir voir les matchs de league, mais dans les divisions en dessous, les hooligans sont là, car le prix des places est dans leurs moyens.\nAlors la minute de silence au parc ne serait vraiment trés mal perçue par l'ensemble des vrais amateurs de foot !!
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Folks in the UK call soccer Football, and a match a Footie.
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England of course. They are world champions when it comes to hooliganism
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This serves to confirm my long held view that Man Utd supporters hail from everywhere except Manchester. \n\nMust be quite unsafe for United supporter from India to visit Manchester. At every turn he bumps into a City supporter.
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Well Germany spent a lot of of cash and time to make sure that that doesn't happen so I doubt there will be any riots.\n\nBut if there are riots, it will probably be caused by English fans after they get knocked out of the tournament ha ha.\n\nHere's how it will happen:\nEngland will be playing their QF match against Holland.\nTheir fans will spend the entire afternoon taking over some local pub and will be completely out of it by the time the game starts.\nHolland will win by a single goal from Ruud van Nistlerooy, a Manchester United player in England. The English fans will spill into the streets, pandemonium will ensue. Many shop windows will be destroyed before German police fire tear gas. This will infuriate the English fans and they'll begin chanting anti-German WW2 songs before being dispersed by the fire departments water hose.\n\nJust Joking!! All the English hooligans have had their passports suspended (true!) so the only English fans in Germany are the well-behaved ones. :-)
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by bcomin a footballer and gettin from them personally.