Did the Winter Haven Police Department over-react in firing a police chief for a memo...?
953530
I really think they did. He was trying to get is men in shape so that when they are trying to chase down a criminal they do not fall dead of heart attack or something. But with that said I am sure that was a better way of doing. Maybe they could have like put some money in a pot and who every lost the most won the money. He need to be tactful about it not rude and crude.
986767
I guess the cops "feared for their lives" from a wedding party. That's the usual excuse they give.\nYou notice the cops were under cover and the car was unmarked.\nUndercover cops also broke into a 93 year old woman's house last week and killed her when she started shooting at them.\nWhen you're not wearing a uniform or a badge, what do cops think people are going to do when their door is broken down and they barge into someone's house???
81634
this is one of those times you need to just throw your political feelings out the window and keep an open mind.  add to it the fact that the story is not yet finished and it's hard to predict what will happen to mr. cheney, and (more importantly) harry whittington.  \n\ni don't know if there is any legal precedent for having a sitting vice president be removed from office for an offense like this.  mr. cheney is very unpopular with many people (including me) because of his political views, but i have to feel a little bit for the guy because it was, after all, an 'accident'.  i don't agree with the fact cheney hasn't addressed the issue... but saying 'impeach him' because of this incident is a knee-jerk reaction by those who didn't like him last week either.  i'm gonna read up more and see where this story leads before continuing...\n\nps::: well i see where mr. whittington was released from the hospital, so thankfully your scenario won't play out.  i am very curious though about the 'holes' in cheney's story.  \n\npps::: it's funny, at first i felt sorry for the vice-president, but now that whittington is ok, my feeling has turned more toward disgust with cheney.  i wonder why this is?
155962
Purposely? No.\n\nBut was the attempt to help people in and out of the city done competently? No.\n\nI don't think it was rasict or malicious...just incompetence, from poorly selected managers and a Homeland Defence Department that is mainly focused on terrorists.\n\nThey should have left FEMA out of the DHS and put a disaster specialist in charge instead of a political crony.
640660
Well since you did not give us any facts to go look at other then your opinion I don't see how that qualifies for much. Sounds to me like you are attempting to speak for the whole world when you say, "The police show up in force using Gestapo tactics scaring the crap out of most people.... This cant be good.". \nOnce again simply your opinion.\nWhy would society have an innate fear of law enforcement. Some people and it sounds to me like you are one of them are easily intimidated by law enforcement personnel and if so I suppose that might scare you but the general public is not.\nLess then one percent of Police Officers Nation wide are corrupt. That leaves 99 percent that are not. if police show up in force perhaps there is a reason for it or an Officer Safety concern. i assure you however Police do not always show up in force. On a barking dog call you will be lucky to get one respond to such a trivial matter but yet the public demands it. they want the dog quiet and the police become the SPCA in that case. When a child runs away from home the police do not storm the child's residence and use Gestapo tactics on the family, so once again you are wrong with your generalized statement. When someone's car gets taken in the middle of the night and the Police respond and take a report and enter the vehicle into NCIC so it might be recovered for you they don't storm your residence. When it turns out that you didn't pay your car payment and your vehicle was actually repossessed instead of stolen they do not issue you a citation for stupidity although I am sure some would like to.\nWhen a child drowns in a swimming pool and a Police Officer is the first on the scene and jumps in and drags the child out while the mother screams in panic because she does not know what to do for them and never took a course in first aid or CPR and the Officer revives the child and all live happily ever after, and yes, that time the Officer did storm the place like Gestapo to help the child with out stopping to remove the 125 pounds of body armor and boots and gun and belt and now a department radio he has to pay to get fixed but just dove in without concern for his/her own safety \nPolice Officers do a lot more then what you seem to think. But heck maybe we don't need them. Here is an idea maybe you will do all the things for us they do and what would be better is if you would do it for free.
338273
Remember the CS Gas spray?? That was issued so that the police had a "LAST LINE OF DEFENSE" When they felt that they were in "Immediate physical danger" \nThey use the stuff for crowd control in our town on a friday night -I have seen it with my own eyes.\nI have had police sneering at me and making comments deliberately to goad me into violence on busy weekends. \nThe magistrates are so far up their own arses that they cannot see what they have on the streets feeding them their stock in trade! \nThe police FORGET that they are public servants and that they are paid BY US! As I grow older I become less and less trusting of them as a force and less likely to help them should I ever be called upon to do so. \nThey do a difficult job no doubt, but they forget that they are there to SERVE and respect members of the public, but from what I have seen, the public need protection from them and their arrogant abuse of power.
972868
Shame on you Fire God!  Condemning a man for hypocrisy and wrongdoing based on innuendo.  What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?  Stepping down from his position is NOT an admission of guilt -- it's an acknowledgment that he realizes he won't be an effective leader until this matter is properly investigated.\n\nTo answer the question:  It has absolutely nothing to do with this election.  The liberals are grasping at every straw they can get their hands on to make conservatives look bad.
845433
My thought is that If you would just obey the law. This stuff would not happen. How easy is that. That is 2nd grade material. We all learned it. Plus we did not see the whole tape becasue of the Liberal left media is always portraying the police as bad cops.
870006
For no reason????????? \n\nHe fails to show his I.D. (as required) when asked.\nHe attempts to get a riot started by causing a disturbance and yelling to others not to show their I.D.\nHe resists officers.\n\nI think its great that they let him ride the lighting.  \n\nAll he had to do was comply with a simple rule.
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Border Patrol told to stand down in Arizona \nBy Jerry Seper \nTHE WASHINGTON TIMES \n \n\nU.S. Border Patrol agents \nhave been ordered not to arrest illegal aliens \nalong the section of the Arizona border \nwhere protesters patrolled last month \nbecause an increase in apprehensions there \nwould prove the effectiveness of Minuteman volunteers, \nThe Washington Times has learned.\n \nMore than a dozen agents, \nall of whom asked not to be identified for fear of retribution, \nsaid orders relayed by Border Patrol supervisors \nat the Naco, Ariz., station made it clear \nthat arrests were "not to go up" \nalong the 23-mile section of border \nthat the volunteers monitored to protest illegal immigration. \n\n"It was clear to everyone here what was being said and why,"\nsaid one veteran agent. \n"The apprehensions were not to increase \nafter the Minuteman volunteers left. \nIt was as simple as that." \n\nAnother agent said the Naco supervisors \n"were clear in their intention" \nto keep new arrests to an "absolute minimum" \nto offset the effect of the Minuteman vigil, \nadding that patrols along the border have been severely limited.\n \nBorder Patrol Chief David V. Aguilar \nat the agency's Washington headquarters \ncalled the accusations "outright wrong," \nsaying that supervisors at the Naco station \nhad not blocked agents from making arrests \nand that the station's 350 agents \nwere being "supported in carrying out" their duties. \n\n"Border Patrol agents \nare the front line of defense against terrorism," \nChief Aguilar said, \nadding that the 11,000 agents nationwide \nare "meeting that challenge, head-on ... \nas daunting a task as that may sound." \n\nThe chief -- a former head of the agency's Tucson sector, \nwhich includes the Naco station -- \nsaid that with the world watching the Arizona border \nbecause of the Minuteman Project, agents in Naco \n"demonstrated flexibility and resilience \nin carrying out their critical homeland security duties \nand responsibilities."\n \nBut Rep. Tom Tancredo, Colorado Republican, \nyesterday said "credible sources" within the Border Patrol \nalso had told him of the decision by Naco supervisors \nto keep new arrests to a minimum, \nsaying he was angry but not surprised.\n \n"It's like telling a cop to stand by \nand watch burglars loot a store but don't arrest any of them," \nhe said. \n"This is another example \nof decisions being made at the highest levels of the Border Patrol\nthat are hurting morale \nand helping to rot the agency from within.\n"I worry about our efforts in Congress \nto increase the number of agents," \nhe said. \n"Based on these kinds of orders, \nwe could spend the equivalent of the national debt \nand never have secure borders." \n\nMr. Tancredo, \nchairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus, \nblamed the Bush administration \nfor setting an immigration enforcement tone \nthat suggests to those enforcing the law \nthat he is not serious about secure borders.\n \n"We need to get the president to come to grips \nwith the seriousness of the problem," \nhe said. \n"I know he doesn't like to utter the words, 'I was wrong,' \nbut if we have another incident like September 11 \nby people who came through our borders without permission, \nI hope he doesn't have to say 'I'm sorry.' " \n\nDuring the Minuteman vigil, \nBorder Patrol supervisors in Arizona discounted their efforts,\nsaying a drop in apprehensions during their protest \nwas because of the Mexican government's deployment \nof military and police south of the targeted area \nand a new federal program \nknown as the Arizona Border Control Initiative \nthat brought manpower increases to the state. \n\nThe Naco supervisors blamed the volunteers \nfor unnecessarily tripping sens
636420
Pretty funny! I think most cops would go to their bar after hearing this, tell everyone and laugh their brains out.\nHowever, in reality this is a great example of when not to go for the belly laugh and an audition with Comedy Central.
1156809
Well, at least one of them filled his freezer with cash in the process. At least that showed SOME foresight- a first for any Demoncrat.\n\n\n\nHmm... funny thing how that same upper leadership didn't kill Florida after we got hit by four hurricanes the year before. Same President, same FEMA... but a  Republican governor... hhmm.. I smell fuzzy logic somewhere..
968543
I completely agree.. and have wondered that myself.. I had a bad year last year with getting speeding tickets.. I went from having a perfect driving record to getting 3 speeding tickets.. two for going  under 10 mph over the speed limit.. one was for 6 mph over and one was for 8 mph and one I wasn't even speeding and claimed I was going 15 over the speed limit.. I took that one to court and of course lost, because traffic court apparently is a joke.. anyways.. so I see all these cops speeding down the road, I now go the speed limit or under.. no more 5 over and they cruise past me.. I think they actually get aggravated that I'm going the speed limit when they are behind me.. alot of the cops I see speeding are ones that live in a different county (my county), then where they work, so you know they aren't on a call, they are just going to work.. what really upset me one day was this motorcycle cop was speeding past everyone, passing people left and right, it looked like he was in an emergency situation, only further down the road for him to pull off on the side of the interstate and whip out a radar gun.. I was so aggravated I wrote the city police dept and of course got the run around.. about police officers being responsible for their own speed.. blah blah... so yeah I don't think it's fair.. I think they need to obey the laws just like everyone else.
123877
The previous answer was good except "how" was forgotten. Also, the officers actions relating to the investigation and the disposition of the case.
1165125
Yes, I live in NJ and was having trouble with an ex-boyfriend once.  He was pounding on my door and saying he was going to kill me, so I called the cops.  When the cop finally arrived (about 20 minutes later, in a very small town where there was no valid reason for it to take that long) he said "Yeah, I got a call your boyfriend was knocking on your door."  When I told him what was really happening, he said, "Yeah, yeah, he was yelling at you," as he wrote his notes.  I found out later he never even filed a report on it.\n\nThen, I found out that a cop member of his family was advising him on just how far he could go when it comes to harassing me without getting arrested.\n\nAnd then cops wonder why people have no respect for them.
89356
It is, in actuality, not a big deal at all. Being "peppered" happens all the time in bird hunting. It was just an accident.\n\nIt is funny though, listening to some of the questions that the reporters put forward. Things like "What is the reason he has not submitted his resignation?" "Is an accidental shooting like this going to result in criminal charges?" etc.... It is totally laughable. The liberal media is insistent on making any little thing into some reason to bash the administration. What next, some conspiracy theory that Bush ordered Cheney to assasinate the guy?
881077
Well living in NJ I get NY news so I hear everything that happens there. I think in a whole the NYPD are good people doing a difficult job but like in life there are a few bad apples. Now talking about what happened to the 23 year old who just got killed I think 50 shots is ridiculous. I can't say it was a racial thing and it could have been a white guy who had gotten killed just the same BUT (and I don't know all the facts) it sounded like the guys were trying to get away from the cops. I think the Cops (who were undercover) may have just looked like a bunch of guys with guns pointing at then so they wanted to get away. They were in their car ramming other cars and almost hitting a cop but maybe they didn't know he was a cop just a wacko with a gun pointed at them and if it was you wouldn't you run someone over or hit some cars to get away? Now they are saying that one of them was over heard saying he was going to get his gun before this all happened and that is why the cops followed them but none was found and no shots other then the cops were fired so I am thinking it isn't looking good for the cops right now and I am sorry for the family of the man who died! It stinks!!!