The Kennedy Curse - What do you think about it ?
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I saw the movie last night and it is one of the best movies I have seen in a long time. I totally agree with you.  I remember the day he died well and gave it 4 out of 4 stars.  My brother who was 3 gave it 4/4 and my 16 year old nephew gave it 3/4.  Do yourself a favor and see the movie. I am also shocked by the vehemence and hatred expressed for people once revered and loved. Society has declined.\n\nJFK and particularly RFK had a profound effect on my life. I was a teenager when Bobby Kennedy was killed. At age ten, I, on my own, went to JFK headquarters and got and passed out campaign fliers. His book, Profiles in courage, influenced deeply the rearing of my children. I taught them to always have the moral courage to stand up for what they believed even if they \nwere the only one or were ostracized. To stand up for good and the underdog, to be non conformist and dare to be different, I taught them buy having the courage to speak up boldly even if they were alone, they might give someone else who feels the same way but who is too scared or shy to speak up the courage to speak up too.\n\nI wanted to go into politics and read thick political books like "American Democracy in World Prospective" while peers read romance novels. (I got married instead subsequently.) But it was Bobby who captured my heart and soul. I memorized many of his speeches and some I still use and recall the words though it has been nearly 40 years ago.  He so inspired me with his deeds and his words. He wrote me a letter. \n\nConcerning the movie, although I was disappointed there was not more focus on his life and footage at points during the movie, in the end, the film triumphed tying it all together.  The film maintained my interests and had some great performances. But it is the emotions which it wrought within me at the end which cause me to give it a 10 and call it one of the best movies \nI have seen recently.  \n\nI was very surprised at the extreme emotions that cursed through me, particularly at the end of the film. First the anticipation of what was coming caused me to tense up. Watching that final night play out like I saw so many years ago brought me right back to the moment it really happened. \n\nI could not stop crying.  Indeed, I kept putting my face in my hands and really crying hard. I had to stifle back sobs that threatened to escape and embarrass me.  I could not stop wiping the tears so it brought me back to that moment when America saw its 3rd assassination. Those words that so inspired and called us forth to be a compassionate, just, peaceful nation that strived to mends bridges and really look at how we spent our limited time and what we might accomplish would never again be there to guide and remind us of what a better world we might have.  With him, those hopes seemed to die. It wasn't long when the wealthy elite began to escalate destruction of our country. \n\nBoth JFK and RFK had the unique ability to really make us look at ourselves and call forth the best within ourselves. When we lost these leaders of insight, intelligence, and empathy, we as a country lost a lot..our very souls and trust. It was a time in history of men of courage, idealism, and good mores that soon fled from all but those who still recall that "each time a man stands up for an ideal, acts to improve the lot of others and strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope and that ripple \ncrossing a million centers of energy and daring can build a wall that can sweep away the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance" and those who are mindful that "few will have the greatness to bend history itself but each of us can work to change a small portions of history and within those acts will be written the history of this generation." \n\n"It is from numberless, diverse acts of courage", he said. I didn't want to leave the theatre, but to reflect on all I was feeling. I continued to cry for
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We may never know but I received these unsoliticited links today in my email, interestingly, the day after I saw the movie "Bobby" \n\n http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/112306A.shtml\n\nhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/2006/11/who_shot_bobby_kennedy_1.html
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Lee Harvey Oswald has been accused for assination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Instead of me writing about the conspiracy theory revolving around his assination, here a link to a well documented article, written by Carl Oglesby :\nhttp://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/Who_Killed_JFK.html\n\nHope your query has been solved
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sure i can, u mean john f kenndy right. i'm learning more bout him and i'm kinda young, well it happened in dallas, they think there was a 2nd guy because the govenor of mayor of dallas was shot too(kennedy and him are in the same car) the cartop was open, first the govenor was shot, then the after like 2 seconds, later he shot kennedy, he couldn't have reloaded that fast, his gun was crapy so yeah that is some of it, they never found out because oswald was later shot himself so the case was closed, if kennedy wasn't killed, we wouldn't have been in the vietnam war. he was a good president, one of the best, peacful unlike bush, some people say it was a conspiray from the government, they said he knew too much
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You'll find it discussed in most conspiracy books, and most especially in Jim Garrison's book, On the Trail of the Assassins (right). Supposedly, John Kennedy's motorcade through Dallas, which was to go directly down Main Street and onto the Stemmons Freeway, was changed at the last minute to turn of Houston Street, and then Elm Street. \nWhy is this supposed to be sinister? Because the route down Elm Street takes the limo near the Grassy Knoll, where a shooter was supposedly stationed. It also takes the motorcade near other buildings (such as the Dal-Tex) were shooters could be hidden, supposedly creating a "triangulation of crossfire." \n\nBelow is a drawing of the "originally planned" parade route, and the "revised" parade route -- taken from On the Trail of the Assassins is shown below.\n\n\n\n\n\nGarrison's Account of His "Discovery"\nJim Garrison, the New Orleans District Attorney who prosecuted Clay Shaw for conspiring to murder Kennedy, claimed to have discovered the "changed route." He says that, during his investigation of the assassination in 1967: \nThe temporary respite from the investigation did not last long. Frank Klein could not stay away from it, and neither could I. One morning I was in my office reading and rereading a newspaper. I did not hear Frank enter. \n"I have never seen you so preoccupied," said Frank. \n\n"It's not just any paper, son," I said. "This is the front page of the Dallas Morning News for November 22, 1963." \n\n"Well, what's got you so hypnotized?" \n\nI gestured to the large diagram on the paper's front page, indicating the route of the presidential parade. "Have I ever shown you this before?" I asked. \n\nHe shook his head.\n\nI turned the paper around facing his way so that he could read the diagram of the motorcade. It covered almost five-sixth of the front page.\n\n"Frank," I said, "I want you to follow the parade route with me. Let's pick it up right here as it comes down Main approaching Dealey Plaza. Are you with me?"\n\n"Yes," he said, his finger following the thick line indicating the motorcade. "And here is where it reaches Dealey Plaza . . . " He stopped.\n\n"What's the matter?" I asked.\n\n"This diagram indicates that the President's parade was supposed to continue on Main Street through the center of Dealey Plaza -- without even leaving Main." He stared at it in disbelief.\n\n"So what's wrong with that?" I asked.\n\nHis finger was moving off of Main, inches downward to Elm until he found the Depository area where the President had been shot. "If that was the presidential parade route up there on Main . . . "\n\nI finished the question for him. "How did he get way down here on Elm?"\n\nFrank looked up at me with a slight frown, then looked back at the diagram. He moved his finger back along Main Street to where it reached Houston. "The motorcade turned right on Houston and went down onto Elm," he said. . . . "Here on Main Street, continuing through the open meadow," he said, "they couldn't have hit him. Are you telling me that at the last moment they just moved the President of the United States off of his scheduled route to here where the Depository is?" He pushed back his chair and stood up. "Hell, I haven't read a damned word about that anywhere. How can they keep something like that a secret for three years?"\n\n[...]\n\nFrank grabbed the front page of the Dallas Morning News and pointed to the diagram. "Hell," he said, "was the Warren Commission blind? Didn't they see this?"\n\n"Oh," I said. "Would you like to see the front page that was introduced to the Warren Commission?"\n\nI pulled open my middle desk drawer and took out a copy of the Dallas Mor
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Well, the curse is just something to draw in fans. I used to believe in the Red Sox curse, but then I learned it was invented by an author in the 80's. it was completely fabricated and then became a folk legend with weird yankee fans dancing around in bedsheets in the 2004 ALCS.\nAs for the cubs, there is no curse. It was a fabricated excuse for sucking the past 50 years after getting the idea from Boston. As for the cubs fan, he was nowhere near as guilty for the cubs loss that day as shortstop Alex Gonzalez, who botched a ground ball that could have been a double play instead of getting in the way of a tough catch that would have been just that had he not messed up Alou.\nI believe in bad luck, but not curses. That's just something fans invent so they can live in denial of their teams poor historical record.
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Surely you cannot be questioning the honor or integrity of the Kennedy family?\n\nI mean, just because old Joe made a ton of money bootlegging and stealing from the stock market... just because one of his sons killed a woman drunk driving... just because his idiot grandson crashed his plane, killing two more innocent women.. just because a grand nephew killed a teenage girl... just because the men of that family are a bunch of womanizing sleazebags...\n\nThat doesn't mean they could be making profits on oil. Shame, shame, shame on you for even suggesting it!
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Teddy 'Chappaquiddick' Kennedy is old, fat, and senile, and the voters should have recalled him years ago. The senate's 4 kinds of wrong on the immigration issue, and I fully believe that's what the House is going to find out when they ask their voters on the issue. Here's hoping they do an honest and professional job...
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I just did a search for "Kennedy Administration and the Middle East" and came up with the web site listed below.  It looks very interesting.  Good Luck.
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I believe that Marilyn Monroe was killed by the CIA upon demand of Robert Kennedy.\n\nI have a theory that all these "people" in cyberspace aren't real. "Everyone" is just a computer program made up to entertain "us"  ( windows is now closing me down in 5,4,3,2,1)\n\nI hope "nobody" is reading this. I know "they" are tracking my every move!!!!
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It was the mob.  Look back at how many ties the whole Kennedy family had to the mob.  President Kennedy changed his mind about some issues.  The mob didn't like that.
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The Kennedy family has been "in business" with the mafia since the prohibition times.  They were some of the biggest bootleggers in the 20's and 30's.
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American politics (I'm assuming that you're talking about the US) has generally become far too closed-minded for me - and I used to be a Republican!\n\nI think that future candidates for public office will do well to remember their own personal indiscretions before deciding to run.\n\nRemember how everyone loved Kennedy? Well, obviously not quite everyone - but you get my point. He was the last American leader to garner that kind of support. Not in votes, but in public opinion. Maybe it was the whole Camelot thing - but I'm sure we'll never see it again. I'm not particularly a Kennedy fan or antthing, I just miss the days when the people were actually in support of the leaders they elected.
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I doubt that anyone knows how many people were involved in JFK's murder.  I am sure Oswald was NOT the only one involved.  From what I have read, he didn't even qualify on the rifle range when he was in the USMC, and that was with a semi-automatic rifle.  The Carcano he is accused of using would not be the weapon of choice for such a job.  That particular model tended to jam and you would want a more tried and true weapon for such a task, such as a Mauser 98.
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If you have a concern, you should write to Senator Kennedy.\nI get tired of hearing about his drinking after all these years.  People change--probably like a lot of you all.\n\nEdward Kennedy has always supported the working man, even though he is a wealthy man.  That tells me he considers the marjority of the country and understands what it is all about.\n\nI would hate to think I would never be forgiven for one or two sins I've committed in my life.  Also, we only need forgiveness from our God, not society.  Everyone errs and everyone is human.
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He was just copying what he saw others doing with no clue as to what was going on. He never was very bright as a child or as a drug sodden adult.\n\nI remember that whole sequence of events very vividly. I was in shock that the President of the United States had been murdered. Many people were shocked, driving home I turned my lights on and so did everybody else, like one gigantic funeral procession. I was not particularly fond of Kennedy, he was not a very good president, which would have become obvious in time. But the office of President had been violated.\n\nWhat was really disturbing was when they arrested Lee Oswald I made the comment "He'll never live long enough to stand trial. then when Jack Ruby was convicted I said "He'll be dead in short order from heart failure, pneumonia or an STD. Those were the excuses given at that time for politically convenient deaths, I was surprised when it was announced that he had died of heart failure and pneumonia resulting from a serious case of syphilis.
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A lot of "ifs" but here's my two cents:\n\n1. First off, I agree that he would not be idolized in the way he is today. A dead President can do no wrong. No scandals can touch him, no one can judge him harshly on his record. If anything, by dying he secured his place in history and American culture.\n\n2. I do *not* believe that Vietnam would not have happened as some people have suggested. Military assistance to Vietnam (in the form of military "advisors") began under the Kennedy administration. Perhaps, though, it would not have gone that far and Kennedy would have gotten out earlier. You have to take the global situation into account though. By that stage, the US and USSR were "locked in" to the Cold War and every inch of soil mattered.\n\n3. Johnson wouldn't have become President, that's for sure. For what it's worth, I think Johnson got a bad rap and a lot of good policies he implemented were forever overshadowed by Vietnam. \n\n4. Kennedy would have almost certainly won a second term. Hence, no Nixon as President, so Watergate wouldn't have happened either and the Republicans would have stayed out of power for at least another four years.\n\n5. His brother would have probably run after him, but at that stage it would be doubtful if the Kennedys would have enough credibility to keep the Presidency. Some scandal, indiscretion etc would have caught up to them or the country would simply be fed up.\n\nAs others have pointed out, the possiblities are endless - everyone probably has his own pet theory (as with the Kennedy asassination). My gut feeling is that world might have been a slightly better place, not necessarily because I liked him, but mostly because of the low caliber of people who followed in the Presidency.