Due to 'under god', the pledge has been banned in a CA college?
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It's about time someone starting objecting to a phrase that was added during the Red Scare in the 1950s!
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The previous answers are either, vague or incorrect. The bottom line on current judicial thinking is as follows:\n\nPer the "Establishment Clause," it is unlawful for schools to initiate any form of prayer in schools or at school events, such as graduations or sporting events, etc.\n\nPer the "Free Exercise Clause," students are free to pray at school, and organize non-faculty-led prayer or Bible study groups. They may even request the use of school facilities for these meetings, as the Supreme Court has ruled that these groups have as legitimate a claim as any other student organization like Junior Achievement or the Chess Club.\n\nI hope this helps
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http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/specials/turban.htm\n\n"Forty-three students, including three Sikh boys, have been expelled from their schools in France after refusing to comply with a new law outlawing religious insignia in state-run educational institutions, officials said today."\n\nNot much in the news, it looks like people have learned to accept it.  Just like many controversial laws on the books in many countries.\n\nLaicite means secular
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I agree with you. If a person WANTS to say the Pledge before a meeting (game, class, etc) then they should be allowed to do so. No one is forcing others to join in and pledge -- they are perfectly within their rights to abstain. \n\nIt really p*sses me off when people try to claim that just "hearing" the pledge violates their rights. Well, what about my right to assert myself and my allegiance to my country?? I would think that would trump anything else.
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Generally, a public institution that opens its facilities to rental cannot discriminate on the basis of religion.  If it chooses to rent out its facilities to some groups, it cannot exclude Christians.  An important Supreme Court case interpreting the First Amendment called Good News Club v. Milford Central School, 533 U.S. 98 (2001) explains the general elements of Free Speech and discrimination of content or viewpoint.  While that case was a public school and not a college, and while it did not involve rentals, that's a good starting point for understanding the current First Amendment law.
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Taking mandatory prayer out of the schools is a good thing. (No, I'm not a Satanic worshiper). The reason being is because there are so many different cultures in America, along with so many different religions. I wouldn't want my children "forced" to say a prayer in any religion. \n\nAt my High School, every morning, the FCA and teens from different churches would meet together at the flagpoles, hold hands around it and say a prayer. There was never anyone who tried to "ban" this activity because they were not imposing their religious belief on others. \nReligion will never fully be removed from the lives of children. Most of History tells a great deal about different religions...the rise and falls of. \n\nHowever, I do believe it is wrong to take "one nation under God" out of the pledge of allegiance. They already have it that a kid doesn't have to say that line if they, or their parents do not believe in God. \n\nIf a person wants their child to be raised in a religious environment, then their parents should send them to a private school based on their religion. In the mean time, pulic schools need to stay unbiased in religion because so many different religions attend public school. \n\nOh, and no, I don't believe Satan has won. He will never win. He is no God. He is a fallen angel, but like us, he is still a creation of God. He's like a little boy at the Mall who throws a fit because his mother won't buy him a piece of candy. He gets punished, but still sulks in the corner...mad now because he didn't get his way and that he was punished. This is how I view Satan. \n\nI hope I have answered your question. Best wishes.
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Not many people understand the truth behind this serious schooling problem. In 1967 prayer was banned from school because an atheistic family felt that the presence of God in school was damaging to their son.  So the courts ruled in their favor. Since then several law interpretaions of that ruling have esposed.  The purpose of it all was to get the true God out of the classroom. But the main purpose or motive behind this today is to atheize our children; which in itself is a form of religion.  The factual truth behind this is that our world is being taken over by a sect of man that we do not understand or even realize exists.  A few years ago we feared communism, now we fear terriorism, but what we neet to truely fear is the true God. We are cutting the throats of our children, and their families, by our lack of concern for their eternal security. God's wrath will come upon us and the majority of people will not even know it has occurred.  Any child can talk about God, read his/her Bible, form Bible or religious clubs, and have prayer, and form prayer meetings in the school (as long as it is not teacher instituted).  No teacher, or principal or any school official can legally prevent this.  It is part of the ruling forced down upon us by the courts back in 1967.  By the way, did you know that it was also in 1967 when Israel became a nation, again?
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engel v. vitale was one case involving prayer in public school; the Supreme Court ruled against school prayer in it.  sorry, i'm kind of vague on this but you can check on wikipedia
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Ever hear of the First Amendment.  Banning the Pledge of Allegiance is a violation of free speech.  If you don't want to say it then don't say it.  How can you ban someone from saying the Pledge of Allegiance if they want?  Besides if you don't like your country then leave. If things are so bad here then we don't want you.  They are nothing but a bunch of punk liberals!
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That's not what the First Amendment says.  The First Amendment keeps the government out of religion's business, not the other way around
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why would you be obligated to pledge allegiance to anything ? i dint agree with schools whether public or college should make any student pledge allegiance. I was taught to speak up for myself and i think why should we pledge to a flag who's government has done nothing but enslaved people, create unnecessary wars and dint care about anyone else but themselves. So what its a flag big deal ! so i dint know if you have to say it in N.C. but you shouldn't have to there or any where else. look at it this way the constitution gives you the right to express yourself ..and here is me expressing myself ..that document was written for middle age -Caucasian men only.
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It's the "seperation of Church and State" thing. However, I do not agree with them. That has been with us since the beginning and I don't think it hurts anyone to say it. People have a choice whether to recite the words and if they don't like it, they don't have to save. Some of these folks don't want God anywhere in their lives and that's their choice but I think they go too far sometimes. It's bad enough that so many have lost God in this country but it is their constitutional right to object. God bless. =)
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The government is not going to take the words "under God out of the Pledge of Allegiance.  At least not right away.\n\nThe Humanist (Atheist, Agnostic, Deist, Unitarian, whatever) groups want the words removed from the pledge.  The belief in God by the majority of Americans interferes with their (the humanists) religious beliefs.\n\nThe "wall of seperation between church and state" is a non issue.  It is not in the constitution, and is a phrse taken out of context from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson who was not even a framer of the constitution.  Freedom of religion does not mean freedom from exposure to religion.
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Usually when colleges say something, they mean it. Accepted or not, they have the right and ability to withdraw their offer.\n\nI don't know how strict this particular school is, but it's definitely something to worry about.
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The only evil I see is from those who want to force their beliefs on everyone else.\n\nWhat do you mean by "let him in our schools?" What are you referring to?\n\nPrayer in school? Intelligent Design? The pledge?\n\nIf you're referring to prayer in school, I recommend checking out this site: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/church-state/prayer.html\n\nIf you're referring to ID, I recommend checking out this site: http://www.talkdesign.org\n\nAnd if you're referring to the pledge...\n\npledge: A solemn binding promise to do, give, or refrain from doing something. (http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/pledge)\n\n...well, I just can't see how one would want to force young and impressionable children to "pledge" themselves to anything, let alone under a god they or their parents might not even believe in.\n\nTheists often think that just because they're the majority, they're the only ones who matter. They're wrong.
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in God we trust is printed on the money we use not in the pledge of allegiance\n\nthey want to take UNDER GOD out of the pledge.  this is because of the seperation of church and state in 1963 people think that there should be NO religon in the Gov't \n\nThis Is BS.  the US was FOUNDED on RELIGON\n\nAll men are CREATED equal.  we are endowed BY OUR CREATOR with...\n\nits the freedom OF religon not the freedom FROM religon\n\nit was writen in the constitution that people should be able to WORSHIP GOD AS THEY PLEASE.  it was to prevent the Gov't from telling people you must practice THIS (specific) religon.  It wasn't written to take away the FOUNDING PRINCIPLES of this country.\n\nthe people who are trying to take UNDER GOD out of the pledge are behaving stupidly.  If we all had a little more of GOD's Qualities (love, joy,peace,meekness,kindness,wisdom,and longsuffering)\nthe world would be a much BETTER place \n\nstop trying to take God OUT! and start trying to put him BACK IN!\n\nTHE GOD OF ISREAL FOR PRESIDENT!  AMEN!
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Yes, I think it's a big deal, and I am NOT offended to find those words on our coins.  It is one of the very few places that God is still honored in our country.  Should we invalidate the Declaration of Independence, or the Bill of Rights, because they make reference to God?  No!  This country was founded in Christianity, and although I do firmly believe in freedom from religious persecution, I think we've gone way too far on the other side... it is now the Christians who are persecuted, our prayers are not allowed, the very basic principals that this country was founded on are litigated, and all by people claiming to be offended by it... well, you know what?  In many other countries, being the "wrong" religion can get you jailed and executed.  We allow you the God-given right to disagree, but what right do you have to change  who we are?!?!  This country was founded on Christian principals, and you have the right to live here and not be a Christian (although I pray for those lost souls), but that does not mean that you have the right to interfere with my rights, either.  Keep God in all that we do, to honor our forefathers, and honor our FATHER.