Some people attack the belief in the trinity. I had this revelation a while back and it really helped my faith
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I like your revelation.  Consider also this one:  Light has three parts:  a part which you can neither see nor feel---God the Father\n            a part which you can feel but cannot see--God the Holy  Spirit.\n            a part which you can both see and feel ----God the Son.\n\n     One God, three possible manifestations--or ways of relating to God.    Christ is God revealed in human flesh.  Remember the verses:  In the beginning the word was with God, and the word was God, and the word became flesh and dwelt among us.\nOr how about,  "And His name shall be called many names: Mighty God,  Everlasting Father."   The last verse in in Isaiah.
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This is why I am agnostic.  There were just too many unanswered questions for me.  And there was a lot of hypocracy, especially in my congregation.  What's the point of *saying* you believe something when you actually don't?
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God bless you for your devotion and desire to seek understanding.\nI always explain the trinity like this. When God married Adam and Eve. He said they were no longer two people but one flesh. He meant they were still two people but with one agreement, one unit. You see one you see the other. They agree as one.\nThe trinity is much the same way. God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Ghost are three that always agree as one unit. Much better than any married couple.\n\nIn the Holy Bible, John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father, but by me.\n\nYou may be familiar with the old testament Deuteronomy 17: 6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death. \n\nThere are always two that bear witness in heaven.\n\nWhen God the Father judges us on judgment day, He will have two witnesses, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
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No, and this is one of my pet peeves. I changed my religion because my initial one felt "wrong" to me. I went searching for what felt right and I found it through my own quest. I didn't need anyone badgering me, which is how every person I met trying to convert another has come off. I hate when people try to lay their own beliefs on others.
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i think it's because some people find it offensive to religions that don't believe in Jesus.
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People push it on you because they believe strongly, that they have found the only path to heaven. They are just trying to bring you into the faith because they care about you and want you to go to heaven too. The unfortunate thing is most people don't know how to go about "selling" their faith to others, and sadly, end up offending more than they convert. It is not intentional, it is an unfortunate by product of their good intentions. I am sorry that this friend has made you feel like your faith is a lie, or rather that he is calling it that. Thank you however, for keeping an open mind about the whole thing. Christianity can be a bit messed up at times. Most Christian faiths think that any other Christian faith that isn't theirs is going to hell too, so don't feel too bad. The way I look at it, if you are right with God, that is all that really matters.
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You are very correct and I agree with you.  The splintering away is a result of people who did not accept the teachings of the Catholic church.  Some did not believe Jesus was truly the Son of God, only a prophet because He didn't meet their hopes and ideas for the promised Messiah.  Some do not accept that the Blessed Trinity is God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit and actually came to understand that the Catholic church was worshipping a false God in their understanding of the Triune God.  Many had problems with Catholics "worshipping Mary" and putting her above Jesus Christ which is not true but there are many things that factor into this splitting off from the Catholic church, and then due to some really bad abuses by the Church during the time of the reformation, Martin Luther tried to correct and change things and so splintered off.  There have been many wonderful Saints who fought against heresy and schism and Thank God, the Church pulled through these trying times.  I wouldn't worry about this because it is God who is in charge and He fills His Church with the Holy Spirit and God can and does make so many good things happen through even the worst of situations and people and times.  I even might mention that there are many "so called" Catholics today who are not truly Catholic because they pick and choose just what they will believe and what they will not, not accepting of all the teachings of the Magesterium.  Some do not accept the teachings of the "Real Presence" in the Most Holy Eucharist, some do not follow the teachings of the Church in regard to many of the modern day social issues, are pro abortion, pro gay rights, etc so there is still today much needing to be done within the Church to bring it (and everyone) back to the one true Church.  What I believe is not good is for people to give up and go elsewhere due to all these things, rather than stay within the Church and pray and do all they can to change things from within.  God has His Holy Spirit guiding our Holy Mother Church and all will be well.  God Bless You in the name of The Father, Son and The Holy Spirit and may our Blessed Mother keep you always in her prayers that you may be brought ever closer to her Son, Jesus Christ.  Amen
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You are right. Trinity is a pagan belief and imagined by so called Christians. Here are some thoughts:\n\nJohn 1:1. The verse speaks of two Gods, but it does not imply equality. Too, the holy spirit is not mentioned in that verse. By the way the word "god" or "God" is a title and can be applied to Jesus. ( Psalm 82:1-6; etc)\n\nThe holy spirit is not a person. It is God's active force. See Acts 2:1-4. As such "it" can be given to persons. ( Example see John 20:22) It has no name, no face--unlike the father, and the son.\n\nMat 28:19. Baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy spirit. Does not imply the personality of the spirit, nor the equality of the 3. Since the holy spirit has no name. The word "name" in that verse refers to reputation. ( Psalm 22:1). Things--like electricity, roads, holy spirit--have reputations.\n\nJesus himself admitted that his father is greater than he is. (John 14:28) He admitted that he has limited powers. ( See Matthew 20:20-23; 24:36; John 5:30, etc) So, how can he be equal in power to God?\n\nOh well, you can not convince people who have made up their minds. Those who try to support the trinity are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. They simply can not.\n\nAs the saying goes: 'DO NOT GIVE ME THE FACTS, I HAVE ALREADY MADE UP MY MIND'.
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people dont realize how many scriptures there are proving the father is higher than jesus...yes we respect him,he died for our sins,and we go THROUGH him to pray to god...but his whole purpose here was he wanted his father honored...\n(a12b13)no disrespect,but i think YOU should research..the trinity originated with the egyptians trio of gods...look in the encyclopedia...the word trinity is no where in the bible...
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As a believer I say that not everyone will believe. Remember, the word states that there are two roads. The narrow road and the wide road and that many will take the wide road. Then also many will come but few are the chosen. So don't expect too many to change their beliefs, because seeing they won't see and hearing it the won't understand. We live by faith and not by sight. You can't expect them to believe in something they can't see. It's called the Thomas Theory.  Good for those that have opened their spiritual eyes to the greatness of our Lord.
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Many Christians begin to learn about the Trinity through knowledge of Baptism. This is also a starting point for others in comprehending why the doctrine matters to so many Christians, even though the doctrine itself teaches that the being of God is beyond complete comprehension. The Apostles' Creed and the Nicene Creed are structured around profession of the Trinity, and are solemnly professed by converts to Christianity when they receive baptism, and in the Church's liturgy, particularly when celebrating the Eucharist. One or both of these creeds are often used as brief summations of Christian faith by mainstream denominations.\n\nOne God\nGod is one, and the Godhead a single being: The Hebrew Scriptures lift this one article of faith above others, and surround it with stern warnings against departure from this central issue of faith, and of faithfulness to the covenant God had made with them. "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD" (Deuteronomy 6:4) (the Shema), "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" (Deuteronomy 5:7) and, "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel and his redeemer the LORD of hosts: I am the first and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." (Isaiah 44:6). Any formulation of an article of faith which does not insist that God is solitary, that divides worship between God and any other, or that imagines God coming into existence rather than being God eternally, is not capable of directing people toward the knowledge of God, according to the trinitarian understanding of the Old Testament. The same insistence is found in the New Testament: "...there is none other God but one" (1 Corinthians 8:4). The "other gods" warned against are therefore not gods at all, but substitutes for God, and so are, according to St. Paul, simply mythological or are demons.\n\nSo, in the trinitarian view, the common conception which thinks of the Father and Christ as two separate beings, is incorrect. The central, and crucial affirmation of Christian faith is that there is one savior, God, and one salvation, manifest in Jesus Christ, to which there is access only because of the Holy Spirit. The God of the Old is still the same as the God of the New. In Christianity, it is understood that statements about a solitary god are intended to distinguish the Hebraic understanding from the polytheistic view, which see divine power as shared by several separate beings, beings which can, and do, disagree and have conflicts with each other. The concept of Many comprising One is quite visible in the Gospel of John, chapter 17, verses 20 through 23.\n\nGod exists in three persons\n\nThe "Shield of the Trinity" or "Scutum Fidei" diagram of traditional Western Christian symbolism.This one God however exists in three persons, or in the Greek hypostases. God has but a single divine nature. Chalcedonians — Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants — hold that, in addition, the Second Person of the Trinity — God the Son, Jesus — assumed human nature, so that he has two natures (and hence two wills), and is really and fully both true God and true human.\n\n\nThe singleness of God's being and the multiplicity of the Divine Persons together account for the nature of Christian salvation, and disclose the gift of eternal life. "Through the Son we have access to the Father in one Spirit" (Ephesians 2:18). Communion with the Father is the goal of the Christian faith and is eternal life. It is given to humans through the Divine union with humanity in Jesus Christ who, although fully God, died for sinners "in the flesh" to accomplish their redemption, and this forgiveness, restoration, and friendship with God is made accessible through the gift to the Church of the Holy Spirit, who, being God, knows the Divine Essence intimately and leads and empowers the Christian to fulfill the will of God. Thus, this doctrine touches on every aspect of the tr
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I had to study before I attempted to answer this in the right manner.  The Trinity: God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit can be explained in the scriptures.  Trying to PROVE it to an unbeliever is a lesson in futility.\n\nThere's God the Creator; there's Jesus who is also the living Word of god; and the Holy Spirit, the guider of Christians who follow Jesus Christ.\n\nHere's some scriptures for you to study:\nJohn ch. 1:1-34\nRomans chapter 8\nMatthew ch. 3:16\nActs ch. 10:38\nLuke ch. 1:13; and ch.24: 45-49.
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Because each faith has changed it to whatever they want to believe.  The original scripture has been translated so many times incorrectly that I doubt it bears even the smallest resemblance to the actual wording.  And whenever anyone tries to give insight into that, the Christians persecute them, not wanting to alter the beliefs they've held for so long even if it means getting the truth.  Sad.
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no.  everyone believes in something different when it comes to things that cannot be proven (ie monotheism/polytheism).  and you might not want to quote something from someone biased.
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It is very sad. Anyone who does a good amount of reading on ethics will know better. Christians tend to not read good books. They just accept the beliefs they were raised with and stick to them out of loyalty, fear, and familiarity. A lot of people don't like to think that what their parents taught them was wrong. A lot of people also have a very hard time dealing with mortality without a belief in a Heaven and benevolent god waiting for them. The truth is, we really just do not know what happens. There could be a deeper purpose to our being here. There could of been an intelligence behind what is. I would never say there definitely is or is not. On the same token though I can see the works or man from a mile away. The Bible wreaks of man, and all his fears. It's far too obvious that a god had nothing to do with what's in that book. I can can spot it just like I can spot the hand writing of a three year old. It's a shame others have such a hard time seeing this. I think this goes beyond their intelligence or lack thereof. It comes from a much deeper emotional issue. To lose faith in God would be akin to losing meaning to everything and that would leave them horribly broken and lost. It's too bad they can't see the other alternatives. One can lead a very spiritual life without placing belief in ridiculous claims.
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I just wanted to say that I have read your questions and answers to several questions (including my own) and I find you to be very level-headed and well-spoken. I used to practice Christianity and then evolved into feeling differently - a lot of the reasons I did had to do with the way Christians around me looked at issues - it got under my skin. But your views that are influenced by your beliefs are not at all offensive, even to someone who may not believe in the same things as you. I am glad to read what you have to say, as I am more inclined to listen to someone who is rational, if nothing else.
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It is very sad indeed that these statements hold so much truth. Just because someone says they are Christian does not mean they are Christ like although that is what the bible teaches us to be. All through out the Word of God we are taught love. I believe because of a few who are ready to condemn or judge others they are defeating the purpose of true Christianity. We are not suppose to turn any away and still there are those that do. Then again the bible says that many will knock but few will enter. I personally apologize to all who have been hurt by someone claiming to have done so for religions sake. The God I serve is a God of love and He loves each and every one of us no matter what our flaws. I'm sure that when He sees someone turning away from Him because of something said or done He is truly heartbroken and disappointed.