If Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe Jesus to be God then why is Matt 1:23 in their bible?
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As always, the Scriptures NEVER prove the trinity and ALWAYS prove that Jesus and Jehovah are distinct persons. The truth doesn't need a lot of explaining beyond what the Scriptures plainly teach.\n\n(Matthew 1:23, RS) Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and *HIS NAME* shall be called Emmanuel’ (which means, God with us).\n\n(Luke 1:32, RS) He will be great, and will be called the *SON* of the Most High. [emphasis added]\n\n(Luke 1:35, RS) the child to be born will be called holy, the *SON* of God.\n\n(John 10:36, RS) [Jesus] said, `I am the *SON* of God'\n\n(John 3:17, RS) God sent the *SON* into the world\n\n(Colossians 1:15) the firstborn of all creation\n\n(Mark 10:18) Jesus said to him: 'Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.\n\n(Revelation 3:14) the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God\n\n(Philippians 2:5-6) Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God's form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God\n\n(John 8:42) Neither have I come of my own initiative at all, but that One sent me forth\n\n(John 12:49) I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak\n\n(John 14:28) I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am\n\n(1 Corinthians 15:28) But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him\n\n(Matthew 20:23) this sitting down at my right hand and at my left is not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared by my Father\n\n(1 Corinthians 11:3) I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; ...in turn the head of the Christ is God\n\n(John 20:17) I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.\n\n(Deuteronomy 6:4) Jehovah our God is one Jehovah\n\n(1 Corinthians 8:4-6) There is no God but one. For even though there are those who are called "gods," whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many "gods" and many "lords," there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him\n\nThanks again for an opportunity to share what the bible actually says about the distinct persons of Jesus Christ the Son and Jehovah God the Father!\n\nLearn more!\nhttp://watchtower.org/e/ti/\nhttp://watchtower.org/e/20050422/article_02.htm\nhttp://watchtower.org/e/pr/article_04.htm
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Being a Jehovah's Witness and having observed some utterly ridiculous comments and accusations against our faith, in numerous instances by Schneb and a few others, let's clarify a few things and see why these individuals are biased and prejudiced and how they're wrong (Schneb in this instance): \n\nTo start, Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians and they are NOT a sect.\n\nMr. Schneb has been horribly duped and brainwashed by (1) his personal beliefs which completely fall apart when compared to the truth from the Bible, and (2) those he relies upon for spiritual guidance, making him among the so many who are spiritually blinded by Satan today. That much is so evidenced by his refusal to accept simple and basic Bible truths and his steadfast reliance upon one man's translation of the scriptures (King James) which isn't very accurate in many respects. It also appears that he adheres to Bible translations that outrightly change the original wording and verbage of the scriptures in order to fit in with a false religious teaching (i.e. the man-made doctrine of the trinity, eternal hellfire, immortality of the soul, and so forth). \n\n- The Bible makes it perfectly clear that Jehovah God and Jesus Christ are separate and distinct individuals, with Jehovah being the name of the Almighty God, and Jesus being the first of Jehovah's creations, and a being subordinate and inferior in position to God (Colossians 1:15, Revelation 3:14). \n\nBut let's further examine another absurdity that Mr. Schneb, in his biblical ignorance, clings to: using John 1:1 to try and prove a ridiculous trinity: AT JOHN 1:1 the King James Version reads: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” Trinitarians claim that this means that “the Word” (Greek, ho lo´gos) who came to earth as Jesus Christ was Almighty God himself.\n\nNote, however, that here again the context lays the groundwork for accurate understanding. Even the King James Version says, “The Word was with God.” (Italics ours.) Someone who is “with” another person cannot be the same as that other person. In agreement with this, the Journal of Biblical Literature, edited by Jesuit Joseph A. Fitzmyer, notes that if the latter part of John 1:1 were interpreted to mean “the” God, this “would then contradict the preceding clause,” which says that the Word was with God.\n\nNotice, too, how other translations render this part of the verse:\n\n1808: “and the word was a god.” The New Testament in an Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome’s New Translation: With a Corrected Text.\n\n1864: “and a god was the word.” The Emphatic Diaglott, interlinear reading, by Benjamin Wilson.\n\n1928: “and the Word was a divine being.” La Bible du Centenaire, L’Evangile selon Jean, by Maurice Goguel.\n\n1935: “and the Word was divine.” The Bible—An American Translation, by J. M. P. Smith and E. J. Goodspeed.\n\n1946: “and of a divine kind was the Word.” Das Neue Testament, by Ludwig Thimme.\n\n1950: “and the Word was a god.” New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures.\n\n1958: “and the Word was a God.” The New Testament, by James L. Tomanek.\n\n1975: “and a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word.” Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Siegfried Schulz.\n\n1978: “and godlike kind was the Logos.” Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Johannes Schneider.\n\nAt John 1:1 there are two occurrences of the Greek noun the·os´ (god). The first occurrence refers to Almighty God, with whom the Word was (“and the Word [lo´gos] was with God [a form of the·os´]”). This first the·os´ is preceded by the word ton (the), a form of the Greek definite article that points to a distinct identity, in this case Almighty God (“and the Word was with [the] God”).\n\nOn the other hand, there is no article before the second the·os´ at John 1:1. So a literal translation would read, “an
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(1) Bible: Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the entire Bible is the inspired Word of God, and instead of adhering to a creed based on human tradition, they hold to the Bible as the standard for all their beliefs.\n(2) God: They worship Jehovah as the only true God and freely speak to others about him and his loving purposes toward mankind. Anyone who publicly witnesses about Jehovah is usually identified as belonging to the one group—“Jehovah’s Witnesses.”\n(3) Jesus Christ: They believe, not that Jesus Christ is part of a Trinity, but that, as the Bible says, he is the Son of God, the first of God’s creations; that he had a prehuman existence and that his life was transferred from heaven to the womb of a virgin, Mary; that his perfect human life laid down in sacrifice makes possible salvation to eternal life for those who exercise faith; that Christ is actively ruling as King, with God-given authority over all the earth since 1914.\n(4) God’s Kingdom: They believe that God’s Kingdom is the only hope for mankind; that it is a real government; that it will soon destroy the present wicked system of things, including all human governments, and that it will produce a new system in which righteousness will prevail.\n(5) Heavenly life: They believe that 144,000 spirit-anointed Christians will share with Christ in his heavenly Kingdom, ruling as kings with him. They do not believe that heaven is the reward for everyone who is “good.”\n(6) The earth: They believe that God’s original purpose for the earth will be fulfilled; that the earth will be completely populated by worshipers of Jehovah and that these will be able to enjoy eternal life in human perfection; that even the dead will be raised to an opportunity to share in these blessings.\n(7) Death: They believe that the dead are conscious of absolutely nothing; that they are experiencing neither pain nor pleasure in some spirit realm; that they do not exist except in God’s memory, so hope for their future life lies in a resurrection from the dead.\n(8) Last days: They believe that we are living now, since 1914, in the last days of this wicked system of things; that some who saw the events of 1914 will also see the complete destruction of the present wicked world; that lovers of righteousness will survive into a cleansed earth.\n(9) Separate from the world: They earnestly endeavor to be no part of the world, as Jesus said would be true of his followers. They show genuine Christian love for their neighbors, but they do not share in the politics or the wars of any nation. They provide for the material needs of their families but shun the world’s avid pursuit of material things and personal fame and its excessive indulgence in pleasure.\n(10) Apply Bible counsel: They believe that it is important to apply the counsel of God’s Word in everyday life now—at home, in school, in business, in their congregation. Regardless of a person’s past way of life, he may become one of Jehovah’s Witnesses if he abandons practices condemned by God’s Word and applies its godly counsel. But if anyone thereafter makes a practice of adultery, fornication, homosexuality, drug abuse, drunkenness, lying, or stealing, he will be disfellowshipped from the organization.
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This is so, because, The god of this system of things is Satan the devil(2Corinthians4:4 and he is blinding the minds of people to not believe or see the truth and follow him and his way rather than listen to the true God Jehovah this is because Satan has inspired many religions so that if he doesn't get you with one he will with another and in this way he has camouflaged the true religion that is inspired by the true God Jehovah!
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There are no false doctrines. Every one of our teachings and beliefs is completely in harmony with God's Word, the Bible. God leads his people progressively and has, at times, had to readjust the thinking of his people to fully understand Bible truths. In the early days of God's earthly organization it was believed, like so many still wrongly believe today, that holiday celebrations like Christmas honor God. It was also wrongly believed, by some, that the end would come at a particular time. However, as the scriptures state in the book of Psalms, the truth is like a light that gets brighter and brighter as the end draws closer. So in that way, certain teachings had to be realigned with the scriptures and people had to be readjusted in their thinking. As a whole, however, the very basic truths remain unchanged and Jehovah's Witnesses still acknowledge the Bible's stand that Jehovah God is Almighty God alone, not some part of a false religious trinity, and that Jesus Christ is the now-reigning king of God's heavenly kingdom, soon to bring vengeance upon this system of things controlled by Satan.
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Jehovah God was speaking to Jesus Christ his first creation. Jesus was with Jehovah God for billions of years. Jehovah was not talking to himself. Jehovah and Jesus are not one and the same as people think. they are different. Father and Son. Jesus Christ was never king of the jews
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Jehovah's Witnesses believe in the Bible, just like most Christians. We also believe in Jesus Christ, only we don't believe in him being equal to God, we believe that he is God's Son not his equal.We do not believe in the trinity, nor do we believe in the rapture.\nAlso, the reason that we believe there are only 144,000 that go to heaven is because in Revelations 14:1 it states: 'And I saw, and look! the Lamb standing upon Mt.Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.'\nWe also believe in a resurection as the person who posted before me mentioned, ONLY we don't believe that everyone who is resurected will go to heaven, those resurected will live forever in an earthly Paradise, where there will be no more sickness, pain, or death. You find the scripture which supports this view at Revelation 21:3-5 and also in the Lord's Prayer at Matthew 6:9,10 where it mentions that we should pray for God's kingdom to come and his will take place, as in heaven, ALSO upon the earth.\nSo, I hope that answered your questions, as a source I'm going to put the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society(the head organization of Jehovah's Witnesses) website. I encourage you to visit it.
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The ASKER wants arguments. Yes, this is a good question to really PROVE or DISPROVE a belief. Here is another argument AGAINST:\n\nPrem1: The Bible says that there are many gods, but only one true God the Father. ( 1Corinth 8:5,6; Psl 82:1 )\n\nPrem 2: JEHOVAH is the Almighty God. He is the God of gods. (Ex 6:3; Deut 10:17, King James of 1611 )\n\nPrem 3: Jesus is a god (or God). But he himself admitted that the Father is greater than he; that there are things Jesus can not do. (John 1:1; 5:30; Mat 20:20-23; 24:36,etc )\n \nCONCLUSION: Therefore, although there are many gods as the Bible says, these gods are of lesser power or might compared to Almighty God, JEHOVAH. Further, although Jesus is a god (or God to some) he has Limited powers or authority as he himself admitted.\n\nNote please re. 1John 5:7: "...these three are one" is a GLOSS--or a mischievous insertion--according to some Biblical scholars. That is why in some revised King James Version, these words are omitted. In some translations you won't find these words.\n\nTo the unbiased reader: \nJesus himself said: 'you must love God with all your MINDS...”  Judge for your self whether the Trinity is really a Biblical teaching, or just men's tradition to invalidate God's words.
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If all groups are saying something different, only one can be right\nMatthew 7:22\n“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.\n\nI've studied the bible with the Jehovah's Witnesses, and have found them to be the only ones who make sense, and who do what the Bible actually say's.\n\nFor example\nThere is no trinity, that defeats the main purpose of Jesus.  To subject himself completely to Gods will.\n\nLuke 22:42\nsaying: “Father, if you wish, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place.” \n\nAlso, John 1:1 is miss translated and should read\n\n 'In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god'.\n\nBut if you agree to disagree on that, all other verses talk about Jesus and God being seperate.  Actually the trinity came about at the 'Council of Nicaea' in the year 325, and is an idea thought up by men.\n\nMatthew 15:9\nIt is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines.’”\n\nThat's just one thing and there are many more about Christmas being pagan based, hell not existing, most peoples future being on a paradise earth (psalm 37:29 & Matthew 5:5), they're the only ones to use Gods name (Exodus 6:3) and there's a lot more.\n\nThey do a free Bible study, and I definitely recommend it :)
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First of all, anyone with intelligence will COMPLETELY DISREGARD dcomputerman's "answer", as it's nothing more than the trashy ranting of someone not looking for answers, but someone looking to make a soundingboard for his ridiculous and prejudiced comments about Jehovah's Witnesses. \n\nThat said....people who claim Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in Jesus are (1) ignorant (2) grossly misinformed and (3) in league with those who purposely slander and spread lies about them.\n\nThe Jesus of God's word, the Bible, is not and never has been God. The Jesus of the Bible, whom Jehovah's Witnesses look to as their leader, has always been in a position below God and the very first of God's creations. That is what the Bible teaches. To claim that Jesus is God is to make an outright LIE.
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The ignorance and utter cluelessness of some of the people responding to this question is absolutely amazing. For one thing, I've noticed that Jehovah's Witnesses' teachings can be backed up completely by the Bible, whether I use my King James Version or read through their New World Translation. \n\nTheir activity of going from door-to-door in talking to other people about the good news of God's Kingdom and what it will do for mankind is A COMMAND FROM CHRIST to true Christians. How many of you nutcases, and I'm speaking of FairyNanook, Jeffo, and Tabi, obey Jesus' command to go and preach to people? I bet not a single one of you, and I bet none of your churches teach that it's necessary, either. \n\nI found the fact that FairyNanook and Tabi made such ignorant and blatantly stupid comments against the activity of the Jehovah's Witnesses to be highly offensive, as I also find it offensive that they call themselves Christians. \n\nJesus Christ himself taught people about God's Kingdom and he showed them on a very small scale by his miraculous healings and the truths that he taught that it is God's Kingdom that will bring an end, very shortly, to the painful suffering of people today. How exactly is it wrong, Tabi, that Jehovah's Witnesses do the same thing? They help people to see the benefits that are soon to come to this earth when things like AIDS (as you mentioned) are wiped out forever? What exactly is so awful that the Witnesses teach people that the Kingdom will do this? \n\nMy goodness, you people really need a clue. "Only saved by Grace".....sure, that's a teaching in a Christian church, but certainly not a TRUE Christian church. Try calling yourself a Christian when you actually start obeying Christ by preaching to others.\n\n----------------------------------------\n\nLooks to me like FairyNanook isn't very Bible-smart. Here, you go Oh Very Spiritually Blind One: "Indeed, as the body without spirit is dead, so also FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD." (James 2:26) You can claim to have all the faith in the world, honey, but without the works to back up those claims, you're just talking into the wind. And while you're at it, I suggest you review the preaching assignment that Christ commanded his followers to engage in. The example was that they were to town to town, village to village, and DOOR TO DOOR. \n\nAnd doing so "for points"? Where in the world did you get that nonsense from? Jehovah's Witnesses do what they out of obedience to Jesus Christ, for one thing. They do it out of love for neighbor for another, and they do it because if they didn't, they would be considered bloodguilty before God. Your thoughts are seriously out of whack and you should be very concerned with the amount of ignorance you display here. \n\nIf you can't recognize that, then YOUR entire way of thinking is what is truly twisted and in deep error. I'm sure you think you teach or know truth, but honey, by your very own words, you're admitting to being one of Satan's blinded drones.\n\n-------------------------------------------------\n\nFinally! She admits that she doesn't have the slightest idea what she's talking about. She's happy to be blinded to the truths that are so clearly brought out in God's Word, the Bible. Perhaps we should all pray that her lack of spiritual understanding and her veil of Biblical ignorance be lifted, as what she thinks she knows now is only doing her more harm than anything else. \n\nAnd if anyone wants ACCURATE and TRUTHFUL information on what Jehovah's Witnesses teach and why......you would wisely steer clear of the trash sites she listed and go right to the official source:\n\n-------------------------------------------------\n\nThe ridiculousness of your comments, honey, is a very clear admission on your part (whether you think so or not). \n\n"Going to the Watchtower website wi
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I believe that Jesus is not a God.....He was a Prophet for Israelites but he was took by God to the Sky....the people that crussified by Israelites with help by Romans was his betrayal follower or Hawariyyin named Yahuza .....it took so long...but i believe that Jesus is Prophet and about his marriage with Mary Magdalene.....i was a lil' bit blur about it...
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Jesus is not an angel, he's higher than the angels. John 1:1 brings out that the Word(Jesus before being born to Mary)was WITH GOD and was a god.Also that ALL things came in to existence through him. But he is not the Almighty God, Psalms 83:18 will tell you the name of the only true God. John 14:28, John 3:16,18 and 1 John 4:9,10 also shows Jesus is not God, but Gods son.
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John 1:1 the Word was WITH God .....WITH....WITH....how can you be WITH God and Be God....in Greek the definate article is missing which is supposed to tell the reader that the word is with God and he is God-like or Divine in nature....that is all!!! \n\nYou wana show me verse 14....ok read verse 14....then read 18....NO MAN HATH SEEN GOD at any time.....( but 14 said the word resided among us didn't it?????)\n\nTrinity (or 3-in-one Deities) is a pagan belief transferred to Christendom’s Doctrine. Trinity has a bizarre origin, (see this on-line book http://www.biblebelievers.com/babylon/)... \n\nScriptures have been tampered with, (KJ 1Jo 5:7), and God’s personal name has been removed from the bible text to help sell this false belief. Trinity is not taught in the Bible anywhere. Jesus Christ did not teach it to his followers. It is a difficult, if not impossible concept for anyone to rectify and harmonize with true, important Bible concepts such as the Ransom and the messiah-ship. \n\nJesus Clearly and repeatedly showed himself to be separate and subordinate to his heavenly father who is named in the Bible several thousands of times, (Jehovah). His apostles consistently manifested a belief in a supreme being who was not the same individual as Jesus Christ.\n\nJesus Christ is the name of the individual who was transferred by supernatural power to the womb of a virgin to become a perfect HUMAN. He was the very first thing created by the creator. Before becoming human, his very being was exactly the same as his creator’s. His very personality, his goals, his desires, his love, is exactly the same as his father. Everything else created was created by the father but through and with the son. He became God’s spokesman or mouthpiece and that is why he carries the name and title “Word”. He commands all of the armies of angels. He is the authentic “seed” who will champion all of the Creator’s purposes and return the universe to the situation originally purposed by Jehovah God the creator, as the King of God’s Kingdom, (A government with a heavenly seat). He is the Messiah, and the Ransomer who redeemed the lives of all humanity by paying the ransom price lost by the original human pair. He gave his perfect human life to pay that price. He did not pay that ransom price with a Creator’s life or a God’s life. His father, (a separate all powerful individual who was still alive) Resurrected him from death, (Hell) to a life once again as a spirit creature like he was before and sat him on a throne at his right hand to wait until his Kingdom rule was to begin. \n\nHoly Spirit is not an individual personality; it is God’s active force or power.\n\nChristendom will be held responsible for the perpetuation of the filthy trinity doctrine\n\nEDIT: If you have not noticed the answers from devout muslim people show that thay are offended by the false teaching that Jesus is God.
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Jehovah's Witnesses, contrary to what some ignorant individuals will undoubtedly come along and say, are NOT a cult. Their way of worship is modeled after that of the established first century Christian congregation. Their teachings, beliefs, practices, etc...are based entirely on the scriptures. They recognize the important of using God's personal name, Jehovah, in worship today and yearly spend over ONE BILLION hours in their global Bible educational work. \n\nThey currently number over 6.5 million active members worldwide and are active in preaching in over 235 lands. They do NOT teach or believe in unscriptural doctrines of man such as the trinity, hellfire, the immortality of the soul, and so forth. \n\nJehovah's Witnesses recognize that Jehovah God alone is the Universal Sovereign and Almighty God. They recognize that Jesus Christ is the first of God's creations, and the second-most powerful being in the universe next to God himself. They recognize from the scriptures that the holy spirit is not a being in itself, but God's active force, or his means of accomplishing his will. \n\nThey recognize from the scriptures that God's original purpose for humanity was to enjoy eternal life here on earth in perfection and in a paradise setting. They know that God's purpose has not changed and that in the very near future, God will be intervening in mankind's affairs to the point of destroying all earthly governments and using his Kingdom (currently presided over by his Son, Jesus) to usher in the world that humans were meant to have. \n\nJehovah's Witnesses, again, are NOT a cult, they do not brainwash its members, they simply explain Bible teachings to people in a way that is easy to understand and will help them to appreciate that living by Jehovah God's standards as set forth in the Bible is the only way to have a truly happy and successful life. To find out more about them, please check their official website below, which has a large number of answers to your questions.
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Because if you read alot of their claims, they cannot be supported by the Bible alone without the watchtower, and yes the watchtower altered the bible to suit their needs.\nBy claiming false prophecies about the end of the world which never happened.\n\nBy claiming Jesus is the archangel Michael instead of God as one in three persons. Doubting Thomas called Jesus my Lord and my God, not my Lord and my archangel. If Jesus sits at the right hand of God as part of the trinity then if he were an Angel the other angels would not be allowed to worship him if he were not God (Rev. 5:13-14,14:6-7)
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I know someone gave you the scripture for John ,10:30 but that is not enough you need to read the 17th chapter of St John where Jesus is praying to the Father to be able to get the context because many people use this verse to say Jesus is God and that is not true.he was the only begotten Son of God, he was the word of God in the beginning but he is not God.