Do we support conversion of poor and illiterate Indians to Christianity by allurement and bribery?
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Thats how a lot of big business is done
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ummm, which christians are you talking about....i'm christian and i ain't braggin bout nuttin...\n\n\nwell, basically, after centuries of oppression and slaughtering diferent societies, such as the Incas, we have been told that there must be a better method in spreading the word......so, instead of complaining, be happy we are no longer taking over countries to "spread the good word".
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If you are a Christian, you are obliged to give 1/10th of your total earnings (probably every month) to God. You could give this to your church or to any other ministry of your choice. Alms are given to the poor, not out of compulsion but out of sympathy and a love for the under-priviliged.
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untill Christian missionaries destroy local culture they can not make non christian accept christian concepts. why some one living in india or america will call the bible people as his ancesters . they can be sympathetic with jesus but how are they going to accept the idea of original sin and his sacrifice. this is alien thought for others born in nonsemetic cultures.\n\nit is great if they want to go and build hospitals and feed the poor and so on, but they do not do this out of pure motives. It is like a bribe. They will feed you in turn for your soul. And of course, it is never open-minded Christians that go on these missions. It is always the closed-minded ones that believe the native religions are Satanic and hellbound.\n\n\nchurches in north east india has destroyed local culture totaly within last 200 years and still activelly engaged in it.\n\nJesus was presented as “Christus Victor” or Jesus Christ the Conqueror (of all evil spirits).The belief of the Ao Naga people in life after death was linked to the life, death and resurrection of Jesus. To this day, missionaries use theological deceit for conversion. They have been guilty of substituting the names of Ram and Krishna in the popular baar-geets of legendary Assamese Saint Sanardeva with the name of Jesus. When the local Vaishnava Sabha reacted angrily, they had to withdraw the offending stanzas. \n\nImposition of Roman script: The first thing that missionaries did when beginning work among a new tribe was to reduce its language to writing. This the missionaries did to enable people to read the Bible.The imposition of the Roman script has on occasion been at gunpoint. On august 21, 2000, terrorists of the Church backed National Democratic Front of Bodoland gunned down Shri Bineshwar Brahma, president of the Bodo Sahitya Sabha. His only crime was that he favored the use of Devanagari script for the Bodo language. \nMany reports have come of how Church congregations use harassment, ostracism and other forms of force to increase their flock. Non-converted portions of a family land into disputes with neo-Christian portions over funeral customs, ownership of land and other matters and this result in clashes between groups which newspapers promptly label as anti–Christian acts, whereas these are often clashes between converted and non-converted tribals.\n\nchristians mssionaries in India have often been a divisive force, which used the tribals for advocating a breaking-up of the country. Today, Christian terrorists feel emboldened to use the gun to force Jesus down the throats of unwilling tribals.\n\nmissionaries actively involve in bad mouthing local relegions. last year a mr cooper came on tourist visa. he not only violated visa rules he went on to call krishna a satan and that krishna is the cause of AIDS.that is how they act in tolerant societies. they keep on behaving outragiously for conversion and when locals react even a bit they call it christian persecution. \n\nChristianity is a money making buissness. and the bonus is ego satisfaction that because others have accepted our belief it proves we were better to start with.\n\nin some areas incidents came up where school was distributing booklets criticising hinduism and in the end children of primary schools were asked to sign the last page and accept that they are sinners. when parents protested christians called it attack on their freedom of exercising their faith and freedom of spreading it. \n\nmany converts do not even know what they are getting into.\nchurch is called girijaghar(girija = lord shiva's wife, ghar=home). in some tribal areas they replaced mary as godess of camels! \n\nwhat the missionries contributed to american native culture?\n\nthe foremost thing christian missionaries declare in a new country that the locals had no culture or religion. that is if the native religion is unknown to christian world. else it is a satan cult.\n\n JUST READ SOME POSTS HERE. MOST OF THEM REALLY THINK THAT
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It's like 86% of our country call themselves christian but dont follow God's word on the poor , the answer should be non-compassionate conservatives. since their so called faith based initiatives have come about there are 40% more people in need since then it obviously isnt working. but just cause you add the word faith doesn't mean it is so.
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No. Because we are told in Proverbs that mans heart is decietful above all else.\nAlso if we try to get to heaven by doing something good our selves, we are wasting our time, as that is what all religions teach.  The Bible tells us that Jesus paid in full, the price on the cross.  Neither is  there salvation in any other, for there is none other name under heaven given among men, wherby we must be saved.  Acts 4:12\nBut we are all as an unclean thing and all our righteousness are as filthy rags. Isaiah 64:6\nSo there is NO WAY we can save ourselves, only Christ can do that, "For by grace ye are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9\nAll have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23
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If we believe in God and have accepted Jesus Christ as our Savior then our standards change and the things that we consider to be riches are different than those of non-believers.  I am not rich in money and have NEVER had a new car.  All my furniture is second hand and I live in an apt.  To others it may seem like I am poor.  But, I have a very abundant, rich life and I couldn't be happier even if I did have  millions of dollars.
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Rice christian is a very old term. throughout history Christians have converted for money all over the world.\n\nIt looks like you touched the person some sensitive nerve of answerer above me.\n\nThe fact is people get money to convert and so does the person who brings that person for conversion.\n\nThe rate in my city is Rs50,000 for the convert and Rs25,000 for the middle man or the "missionary" per convert.\n\nIt is a Money making business.\n\nAs for the rhetoric's of person above At least that Shankaracharya is no more an official Shankarcharya. \n\nHe is forgetting there are numerous cases of molestation of young children by church officials including missionaries and priest of churches in Infdia. And the church official pressures the parents not to report it.  Every time a case is finally reported it is stated by parents that they were threatenned and asked to let it go.\n\nThe nun claims rape turns out she was already pregnant by the priest and created the drama .\n\nIt would be better to clean up your own system instead of mud slinging at the religion for the acts of individuals.\n\nDo not forget the Terrorist activities and active support to such activities given by Church of almost all dominions in India and some other counties.\n\nChurch uses all kinds of tactics to get converts.--Saam , Daam, Dand , bhed. (by preaching, by money, by force and by fraud).
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Yes, they should.  If they don't comply, they should be thrown to the lions, just like the Christians.  I'd pay to see that.
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Absolutely. Any religion that needs to twist their own words and beliefs in order to 'recruit' people to gain power are corrupt. Religion is man made remember, and God(or the Gods as I believe) is love. Christianity and the church have been so twisted over the centuries that they have now completely lost their grip on reality. They should try going and sitting in a field and meditating on nature instead of putting so much focus on the church. Life isn't about a big building with a spire, its about understanding. The catholic church in particular is one of the richest and most powerful institutions in the world? How did they get there? By helping the poor? I don't think so. By taking money, keeping it and recruiting new followers by twisting, turning and having an answer for everything. I'm not going to apologise if this offends anyone - If ya cant stand the heat ....
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Among other religions, Christianity is considered the worst offender of this. Hinduism, Judaism, Sikhism and Islam have all reacted in the strongest terms to the dishonest way missionary groups try to seek (aka brainwash) converts.  One need only look at http://www.messiahtruth.com to see how one faith is responding to the systematic attack it has to withstand from Christian missionary groups.\n\nIntellectual debate between religions is fine, but attempting to mislead members of other faiths so that they are fooled into joining another faith is not acceptable by any standards.\n\nHere's a look at how missionaries are attempting to wipe out Hinduism and a response to the constant attack of missionaries:\nhttp://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/2005/10/they-are-on-mission-to-destroy.html\nhttp://www.atributetohinduism.com/Conversion.htm
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A worthy proposal !\nIt has been incorporated by some of the most respected Christian innovators of the 20th century.\n\n1) Henry LeSault, A Catholic Priest who also became a Sannyasin\n2) John Main\n3) Monchanin\n\nAre some of the exemples of what you describe.\n\nHenri LeSault has the richest Hindu Christic experience. His Christian roots and the connection with Christ has been totally enriched by the depth of Hinduism and the Advaita Vedanta tradition.
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Many religions have the concept of proselytising, which means it is their religious duty to 'save' or convert others to their faith. It doesn't matter if outside people are interested in their beliefs or not, or if in fact, they have their own code of morals or ethics. It's just part of the faitholder's religious duties. It does tend to numb the brain though, doesn't it?
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should we take their reality into consideration ? yes.\n\nwill religion that proselytise will do it? does not look like it.\n\n  both major religions in world today are the religions which call their own beliefs to be only truth. \n\nchristianity do not get converts till they finish off the local culture. for accepting ancesters of iserilies as their own or accepting jesus as only saviour etc will not go with native beliefs.  christianity will not accept any native belief as it is not written in bible thus false by default.\n\n somebody asked a question on YA why christian missionaries destroyed local culture.  most people said their soul was more important than culture. that is the mind set by organized religions.\n\nsame goes for islam.\n\nthere was a time when buddhist have done similar things. though few buddhists used actual sword they used other mean methods extensively. they tried to malign hindu avatars. they actually invited foreign invaders to attack indian kings more than once. the fault of the king was that he did not converted to buddhism. \n\nthey just got boomranged when last muslim invader they invited did not converted to buddhism as others had done. instead all buddhist area of india is now muslim majority area. from afganistan to bangladesh.\n\npoint is those seeking converts can go to any extent. they may even think there are doing a favour. or just feel superior and that they had hit the jackpot. there being charitable by collecting useless local currency and giving them real money. whatever.\n\nAmy is right when she said native cultures are doomed. \n\nYou know my parents and other older relatives say there was a time that every mango tree had a different flavour. all good in their own way.\n\n mango seed was used to grow new plants. and each plant used to be unique depending upon the soil and neighbouring environment . growing plants by seed took more time and resultant taste might not have desired taste. then the era of Kalami mango came. and most of the varieties disappered. just because they used stems from a single tree for whole gardens.\n\nnow there are hardly 5 or 6 types and all of them taste the same. but there is not much we can do. most flavours are already lost .
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I dont know about numbers (of such converts), but I know that many people from other faiths (and world-views) are commiting their lives to Christ. \n\nE.g., see http://www.godsci.org/gs/chri/testimony/00.html\n\nCordially,\nJohn\nhttp://www.GodSci.org\n[God and Science]
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We are not.  That is a bunch of nonsense, dreamed up by a religious leader who needed a super strong reason to get people into church and donating.  How in anyone's mind can a precious new born baby be a sinner? It's ludicrous.\n\nAdam and Eve made the decision to strive for knowledge - and you get the good with the bad with that - instead of idling in Eden, blissfully unaware.  There was not sin, there was a choice - a desire born of innate (god given) curiosity.\n\nThis is the ugliest lie about Christianity and I am so sure that Jesus would so totally not aprove of it.
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Although I was raised as a christian, I am sometimes ashamed of those who represent it falsely. I have also studied Hinduism and many of the teachings match the Essenes Christians which I have found to have the truth. \n\nThe early Essene Christians also believed in reincarnation as did the Jewish mystics and Gnostics.\n\nAn early Jewish teaching said that God (Jehovah) will pluck us up and replant us many times to help us achieve perfection.\n\nWhen Jesus disciples and other followers implied that he was David (reincarnated) ... he did not deny it.\n\nI wish that we Christians had the peaceful history that you Hindus have. Our history from the crusaders to George Bush shows us to be a very bloody and violent religion.\n\nI also wish that we Christian were as open minded about sexuality as the Hindus. We and the Muslims will almost kill if we see a homosexual.\n\nThat leaves us with your cast system...It really is not right and fortunately your people have began to realize this. \n\nOur Christianity, on the other hand is fast becoming a cast system due to the capitalist here. We place those that are industrious  on a pedestal while we frown on those that are poor or unable to work.  Our aged is locked out of everyone's way rather than respected and honored. Our mentally disabled are not treated as other disabilities. In many ways we have done worse than your cast system.\n\nJesus said, "Let he with out sin cast the first stone".  This one from the Christian religion will not cast stones.  In many ways I admire you.