Are Dems solidly behind Amnesty for Illegals?
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No....\n\nBut deporting 11-20 MM illegals is darn near impossible.  And, at this point, it may cause some serious harm if we do get rid of illegals.  There is a place in PA (I think) that has enacted laws prohibiting illegals from renting or getting jobs.  They have largely left the city- now businesses are failing in that town.\n\nAmesty is not a solution but neither is total deportation-  It is next to impossible to accomplish.  there has to be some way for them to stay, become legal, no to citizenship and pay steep fines.\n\nSecure the borders.\n\nLet's not place this all on the Dems-- Bush has advocated some form of Amnesty as well.  And Reagan DID grant amnesty in the 80's.
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Bush and Pelosi have been discussing 'comprehensive reform', read, 'you give me guest workers and I'll give you amnesty'.  However, Homeland Security has said processing just the illegals here under the Senate Bill would create a 10 year back log.  At first blush that isn't good news for anyone legally immigrating.  However, Gates also immediately began pushing for skilled workers, and he has both clout and celebrity value.\n\nThe adminstration seems to be jumping on immigration as the only area where there may not be gridlock with the new Congress.  Question is how all of the populist Democrats who ran on border security to defeat Republicans will vote.
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As the majority of Democrats voted DOWN the 'make English the official language" bill and voted DOWN the House bill on immigration and want to grant amnesty to everyone.....I'd say they are for illegal immigration.
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I do not trust the Dem.  or the Rub. any more they take to much from lobbyist for their vote. \nLike the immigration issue it should be straight forward illegal is illegal so why are we so torn.\nit is not a racist issue it is a lawful issue.\n\nSo for me I am changing to the Independent party and if it takes away from the other parties then maybe they will get the idea and start to do what the people want and not what the lobbyist want.\nWhere are the Jefferson's,Truman's and Eisenhower's the true Americans that believed in the American Dream\nWhen we only had two parties but both parties wanted what was best for the Country they listen to the people.\n\nWe need to get back to AMERICA FIRST
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Not all of them are. There are a few here in Arizona that are Democrats.
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No.  We were both prior to this travesty.  It's obvious politicians from both sides are just trying to win votes from the immigrants, both legal and illegal.  \n\nWe have always accepted, if not always been welcoming to, legal immigrants.  I think it's a severe miscarriage of justice to grant amnesty to 11,000,000 law breakers.  It makes a mockery of the effort the legal immigrants put into earning their citizenship.\n\nAnd why is it incumbent upon us to accept these illegals? Have you familiarized yourself with Mexico's laws? They have made it illegal for anyone not a native of Mexico to have a job there.  What do you think the reaction would be if the US did the same thing?\n\nBy the way, is Mrs. Jeb Bush related to El Presidente Fox? It's a rumor I heard, but don't know if it's true.  (Serious question, not an accusation or statement of fact.)
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I've seen those facts before, attributed to the Los Angeles Times.\n\nThe fact is that illegal immigrants concentrate, not only in states, but in specific localities.  That is enough to significantly impact statistics for that locality, be it a state or a county.\n\nThe impact is huge, but it is mostly for state and local costs, which the federal government refuses to reimburse while refusing to allocate (federal) funding enforce laws that might prevent this from occurring.\n\nContact your Congressmen. Don't forget to say that the 10 year 'rolling amnesty' through the 'statute of limitations' provision in the Senate bill has got to go.  They are ignoring the elephant in the bedroom.
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The Minute An Amnesty Is Granted \nFrom The Whitehouse To 20 Million ILLEGAL ALIENS\nYou Will See 280 Million IRATE AMERICAN CITIZENS \nGo On The Warpath\n\n\n\nWashington Better Think Twice About Granting Any Amnesty
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Yes, it is a damn shame that that bozo got elected. It does not look well for those of us opposed to amnesty for illegals. But we can't give up. Just because it worked in Utah, with the large community of Mormans, who say they are christian, but keep harems, does not mean that the trickery and money will work in every state.\nIf the stupid democrats would pledge to get tough on the illegals, pledge to strengthen the borders, and start supporting our military, they could win this year and in 08. But alas, they are far too busy criticizing everyone else and can't formulate a cohesive strategy. That only leaves the libertarians. and where do they stand on the illegal immigrants debate?
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http://judiciary.senate.gov/press.cfm\n\nEveryone needs to burn up the phone lines, mail and internet inboxes with this issue. There is alot of propaganda be spread around about what we spend each year to allow ILLEGALS to stay here, jobs that they are taking from Americans, taxes they do not pay into, their intentions etc.\n\nRead on\nhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoptheinvasion/\nhttp://www.humaneventsonline.com/index.php\nhttp://360.yahoo.com/lists-PMRb1p42aacMueZmc_FaRn89U4XQsyz9cyAO?n=25480\nhttp://www.numbersusa.com/interests/amnesty.html\nhttp://www.cis.org/articles/2004/back704.html\nhttp://www.theamericanresistance.com/issues/amnesty.html\n\nIF YOU KNOW OF ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS HERE IS THE WEBSITE TO REPORT THEM ALL.\nhttp://www.wehirealiens.com/
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Yes it is.  I think people somehow view it as racist to not reward people in the US illegally.   In fact, I'm tempted to use this argument  the next time I'm in traffic court - "but your honor, if we can give amnesty to those illegally using resources and living in our country without paying taxes, then I deserve amnesty for my speeding ticket."\n\nHowever, Bush baby and his team of morons know good and well that our economy is extremely dependent on Mexican workers.  I do support giving them legal work permits.  Such permits would give them some limited protections against being taken advantage of by employers, but should also limit access to public resources and not allow for their children to be born as citizens (which would require a constitutional ammendment).\n\nTo not do so would cause tremendous inflation.  No..you're not going to get prisoners to work our orchards and fields (ever try to get good work out of a captive workforce..ain't gonna happen) and home prices would skyrocket if contractors were limited to totally legal workers.\n\nAnd yes, I do think the construction industry needs to clean out its illegal work force.  In border states, the widespread use of illegal labor has kept wages down for decades, thus no one views it as an honorable trade anymore.   \n\nI have no problem with paying more for construction but as the wife of an electrical contractor in TX, I can tell you that HE has huge problems getting workers that are worth a darn (no he doesn't use illegal labor).  The current wages probably have a lot to do with the lack of quality labor but he's even tried paying more than prevailing wages and there is just not a pool of good workers anymore.   It would temporarily cripple the industry but maybe that change is worth it.\n\nLike Bill Maher said "let's see Bush try to build a 2000 mile long fence without using Mexican labor."
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No one has ever been punished for Illegal immigration? Good Lord wake up.... Once upon a time they most certainly were. After 1986 amnesty is when everything began to go to hell.\n\nRefinement unfortunately. Wasn't enough the way it was introuduced.\n\nNo to amnesty.....No to healthcare....No to social services....No to Illegal employers.....No to anchor babies.....No to Social service help...No to drivers licences....No to temp workers programs....No to free education....No to manditory Spanish classes in our schools....no to spanish on labeling government documents.... Yes to boarder security priority.....Yes to enforcement of immigration limits.....Yes to Illegal employers fined and jailed.....Yes to Harboring Illegal immigrants being fined and jailed being enforced\n\n\n\nA DAY WITHOUT AMERICANS ! April 17, 2006! \n\nIn response to the recent mass national rallies fearlessly staged by the illegal alien lobby, The Dustin Inman Society is suggesting that Americans nationwide stay home from work and not spend any money on April 17. 2006 - income tax day. \n\n\nAPRIL 17, 2006 LEGAL Americans are being asked to stay home from work and not spend any money that day! Protest ILLEGAL aliens, their boycotts and marches, their taking of jobs, resources, welfare, healthcare, disobediance and defiance of American laws. Show congress that they may ignore our emails and phone calls, but we won't remain ignored! \n\nSupported by Americans for Legal Immigration \n\nhttp://alipac.us/ftopict-20151.html
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Amnesty has never worked for America. Amnesty is Wrong, Amnesty is worse that the actual offense of illegally entering America. Amnesty has no basis in a positive aspect for America and will benefit only criminals. American citizenship is NOT granted on the basis of who can hide the longest or run the fastest across the desert.Not to mention, according to the PEW Hispanic research center the majority of illegals do not want amnesty, they do not want to assimilate, they do not care about becoming Americans. I do not wish to live within the law only to watch those who do not get a free ride. People who live within the law have little more than the satisfaction that they are moral upstanding citizens. People who live outside the law (like illegals) are trying to benefit from there crime at the expense of people like me. There have been a great many web sites showing the financial burden illegals have on the economy. They are a drain on the moral and unity of America, two things America so desperately needs to regain.
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They shouldn't be even considering most of the proposals on the table, as they give benefits to illegals that even US citizens do not get (tax amnesty, social security amnesty/fraud, etc...).  \n\nHopefully they won't be our elected officials too long if they keep this up, but most voters are apathetic/uninformed and that's probably the biggest issue we face.  If the elected officials are not "punished" (i.e. not re-elected), then they will get the message that they don't "know better" than the rest of us.
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http://www.alipac.us/article-1242-thread-1-0.html\n\nThe US Senate could go to a vote any day or hour now on S. 2611 which \ncontains amnesty for both illegal aliens currently in the US and for \nemployers that have broken the law hiring them.\n\n\n\nSenator Sessions says S. 2611 to bring 217.1 million new immigrants in 20 years    http://www.alipac.us/article1223.html\n\n\n\n\n\nGOOD NEWS\n\n1.  This bill is so full of amendments now that neither side really \nlikes it increasing the chances it will fail.  If it does pass, the \npoliticians that voted for it will face even more opposition from the voters \nfrom both sides of the issue!\n\n2.  If they pass S. 2611 the fight is not over yet so do not get \ndiscouraged.  It still has to pass our House lawmakers.  Also, there are \nbenefits from a Senate vote that passes this amnesty bill.  On one hand, it \nwill allow us to determine exactly who we need to target for removal in \nthe elections.  On the other hand, passage of S. 2611 will INCREASE THE \nELECTORAL BACKLASH on this issue.\n\n3.  Even if the Guest Worker amnesty program is passed into law, it \ncontains a fatal flaw.  It does not grant instant amnesty.  This will \nallow time for the majority of American citizens to assert their influence \nover the lawmaking process through the elections.  If signed into law \nby George Bush, we will immediately announce our intent to seize \npolitical control of the program, remove any citizenship plans, and use it as \nan effective targeted deportation tool for illegal aliens that do not \nreturn to their home nations on their own volition.
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Because neither the Democrats or Republicans want to offend the hispanics in this country,since 1986 when amnesty was given to illegals back then our goverment failed to secure the borders,each administration left the problem to the following administration,now we're stuck with millions of illegal immigrants that are not asking but demanding legal status,some are already planning to bring more illegals with them.and our Washington representives?pointing the finger at each other as usual,and contrary to what the person above said,it's the Republicans that are blocking illegals from becoming legal.
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Yes, more than likely. And it's possible if another amnesty is to be given to more illegal immigrants again, you'll have a _lot_ more home-grown terror cells before long! Trust me. Just watch and see what I'm saying!