Why do mormons say Jesus is not God, when the Book of mormon states Jesus is God?
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Ok, this is going to be a long one, so bare with me.\n\nHere's what we believe. In the Bible it says God created the Heavens and the Earth. We believe it was by the power of God all things that were created, were created. We believe that the Jehovah of the OT, aka the God of the OT, was that same God who physically created all that was created. We believe that everything that was created physically was first created spiritually, by God, aka our Heavenly Father, aka Elohim. We believe that even mankind was created spiritually before we were/are/will be created physically. We further believe that Jehovah of the OT was the spirit representation of Jesus Christ. Therefore Jesus Christ is God in that He is the God of this world, and because He led a perfect life and suffered and died for us, He is perfect even as God (the Father)is perfect. Only the perfect can be as God, therefore, Christ is God. We also believe that only on extremely rare occasions has God - the Father, come to earth. He was there in the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve, He visited Joseph Smith in the Sacred Grove, and if there are any more instances I do not recall them. We also believe that the Nephites (a people in the BOM) knew this as well. We believe that God the Father, His Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost are three seperate personages. God the Father has always had a body. His Son, before His mortal birth, as Jehovah, did not have a body, but with His birth, as Jesus Christ, He did gain a body. The Holy Ghost, as most know, does not have a physical body, but He is not some cloud of vapor either, His form is that of a man - yet because of His calling to testify of God and His Son Jesus Christ, He does not have a physical body. As you may know, we believe that there will be some (personal suggestion: Adam, Abraham, Joseph of Egypt, Joseph Smith) that will progress to the point that they are given the power to be gods of their own world. The scripture that points to this is God was as man is, man is that he may become like God. (I'm paraphrasing). Most of the time when we say God we mean God the Father. When we say Heavenly Father we mean God. We almost always refer to Jesus Christ as either Jesus, Christ or Jesus Christ (as is typical of all other Christians). We also almost always refer to the Holy Ghost as the Holy Ghost, although sometimes He is refered to as the Holy Spirit, or the Spirit. You are correct in saying that the BOM says They are one, but you misunderstand what is being said. They are one in thought, in deed, in spirit. Because They are perfect, They are the same. They are NOT the same physically, but are of one mind, of one heart. When you speak to one and recieve an answer you can count on the fact that an answer from one is an answer from the other. One would say the same as the other if the other were there. We believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God (notice the capitalization of son). We also believe that all mankind are the sons and daughters of our Heavenly Father. While in this case God and Heavenly Father are meant as the same Person, ie Elohim, due to Jesus Christs devine nature as the only biological child of God, the term Son as it refers to Him is capitalized. We (meaning mortal man) are not the biological children of God, but only the spiritual children of God, therefore the terms son and daughter are not capitalized. \nPersonally I've always had a problem with the Protestant and Catholic definition of trinity. Even before I converted, I always thought of the Trinity as three seperate individuals who were Holy. As a child it didn't make sense to me that an individual could be three in one. It sounded more like a split personality - no disrespect intended. As a child I thought this was something I would learn more about as an adult. And sure enough I did. I learned that the Trinity (as is described in the BOM) means They (God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost) are three individuals who are perfect and who Satan ca
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I am a member of The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints. Better known as Mormon. We believe in God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost. They are 3 separate beings. We believe that Jesus was sent to suffer for our sins. We also believe that after he died he came to visit the Americas. That is what the Book Of Mormon is all about is Jesus coming to the American continents after he died.If you want a copy of the Book of Mormon I will send you one free of charge. jgeddes01@yahoo.com (just give me your address)  We believe that God and Jesus both speak to Prophets on earth today. True Mormons are not those people down in Utah Practicing polygamy. They are the ones making us look bad.
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I think you have that right -- unless you are Mormon.  They believe that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are three separate beings.  It still doesn't answer why God the Father is not the father.\n\nI'm shocked that you got no reasonable answers n the Religion section.
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Except for religious differences, Mormons are just like everyone else. They are Christians, and anyone who knows the meaning of the word 'christian' would see that very plainly. It's right in the name of the church. It is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
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I know someone gave you the scripture for John ,10:30 but that is not enough you need to read the 17th chapter of St John where Jesus is praying to the Father to be able to get the context because many people use this verse to say Jesus is God and that is not true.he was the only begotten Son of God, he was the word of God in the beginning but he is not God.
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The Truth About  Mormonism\n\nMost LDS (This stands for Latter Day Saint, That's what they like to call themselves) won't tell you what the Church believes because it is so bizarre. These strange beliefs are the reason mainline Christians Churches say that Mormonism is a non-christian cult. In the next paragraph I will tell you what they believe and add what the Bible teaches on the subject where appropriate.\nMormons teach that our god is a glorified man. A being of flesh and bone. The Bible makes it very clear that God is spirit. The Mormon god  stated out in the great expanse of uncreated space. There in the darkness of a pre-spiritual existence, god the father, Jesus, you, and I will there all equal and co-eternal. Then a god had sexual intercourse with one of his wives and our god was given a spiritual body. He happened to be the first born of this god so he became the savior of this god's world just like Jesus is for our world. He lived, and taught Mormonism to those who would listen to mine. He died just like Jesus did here and if others on that world would repent and be baptized by the Mormon priest there and live to the end of their lives in righteousness they were allow to return to their god. If they didn't measure up they were assigned to other kingdoms that that god has created for them. Kingdoms overseen by their savior  (who became our god) and another valiant spirit that was given the office of holy ghost. (What do you think, is this getting complex?) After the end of the world that our god did his mortal ministry on, he was given many worthy females at he could have sex with and thereby create spirit children (us) to send to a world that he created. Oh, by the way these worlds weren't really created they were organized out of the matter available in space (matter is co-eternal with god and can't be created or destroyed). Jesus was the first born of our god and Lucifer the second born (who became the devil). Can you believe this Mormons don't just say that Jesus is our spiritual brother but also he and we are brothers of Satan. Lucifer wanted to force us all to be good and bring us all back to god Jesus wanted to give us freedom to make our own decision. Jesus won this battle and became god the son. Well Mormons believe this process is repeated again and again. It is their goal to live a perfect life through their first principles of their gospel they are:\n          1. Faith in the Mormon Jesus\n          2. Baptism by immersion (Done only by their priests)\n          3. Laying on of hands for the gift of the Mormon Holy Ghost  ( Done only by their elders)\n          4. Repentance ( You have to repent of every sin you commit, You better have a good memory)\n          5. Enduring to the end of your life in righteousness. Go to step 4 each time to you sin.\nAlong with this there is marriage in the  Mormon temple (You can't become a god without being married). Everyone is also asked to pay a full tithe (Ok they got one thing right) and do volunteer service for the church (They have no paid ministry. That isn't bad either but someone should tell them that pastoring a local christian church is a full time and a half job and it doesn't pay well at all. Men and women that do it are called of God No one would go into that kind of work on their own..\n\n\nJim
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Isn't Jesus the SON of God?
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They are wrong, and they won't go to Heaven I'm afraid.  It says in the Bible that nothing is to be added yet they went and made a whole extra testament!  Also, what's all that rubbish about Mormons inheriting their own planet when they die?  I have a former Mormon friend, who is now a Christian, he uses the analogy that Mormonism is like seeing a cardboard cut-out of The Beatles, whereas Christianity is like meeting them in person - there is just no comparison.  Sorry Mormons, you are wrong...you need to get yourself a personal relationship with Jesus or your off to Hell.
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How many of you have read the Book of Mormon (I know you dont think you have to to understand that is evil and forged)?\nDoes anyone have anything useful or valid to add to this question?  You know now just blatent statements without evidence?\nI know matter of factly that the LDS religion accpets the teachings of Christ, in fact their church is based on Christs original founded church, with a prophet, and 12 apostles (if you really studied it you would find that it is the closest thing to the church of Christ when he was alive - factually speaking - I am not going into revelations)  Add it up, see the similarities, but then again, how would you know if you never studied their teachings.  \n\nHAVE ANY OF YOU even sat through an LDS church session?  Do you actually know the things they teach and speak of on Sunday?  If not, than how can you say they dont belive in Christ or follow His teachings?  \n\nI hear a lot of claims from people about the LDS church, and I often wonder where you get your material from?  I sincerly doubt that it came from the actaully teachings of the church, because everyone I hear is false, and you would know that if you didnt study literature written by anti-mormons or biased imbittered apostates.  \n\nIF YOU HAVE ANYTHING VALID OR FACTUAL TO SAY, PLEASE DO, OH AND DONT FORGET TO SITE YOUR VALID REFERENCE :)\n\nI HEARD ONE TIME . . . (doesnt count)\n\nIf your going to debate or make claims against a subject, know what you are talking about, do your research, actaully study it.  I am always open to hear someone elses view on any subject, but not if you dont know what your talking about, and vice versa, if I dont know, I most likely wont be able to participate, but I would go study it to find out for myself, if I didnt I would just make myself sound inintelligent, or at the worst ignorant.
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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, commonly referred to as Mormons, believes in Jesus Christ, and God the father. They are, as their name implies, a Christan church.\n\nPlease go to these web sites for more information www.lds.org and www.mormon.org as many of the answers already given are NOT true and mearly mis-informed opinions.
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I think most people would admit that there are at least discrepancies in the Bible. Even between one version to another certain verses can mean totally different things. Really a lot has been lost from the Bible, however the LDS still believe it to be truth as far as it has been translated correctly. \n\nLDS people 'switch to their scriptures' when explaining their religion because they believe that the scriptures, particularly the Book of Mormon is the keystone of their religion. \n\nIt still doesn't 'prove' anything. Nothing can 'prove' the LDS religion except for faith. The Book of Mormon is often the path that people follow in developing that faith. \n\nIf you want to learn more about the Book of Mormon and why the LDS care so much about it, then by all means read it. It's an interesting read, often complex in it's story and plot, but simple in the gospel principals it bears testimony of. \n\nYou can find out more about the LDS faith and get a Book of Mormon by visiting www.mormon.org.
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Jehovah witnesses do not believe that Jesus is the son of God.  They chose to distort the bible to engulf their own beliefs.  The bible is not a buffet, you have to accept it in its entirety.  If you call parts of it a lie, then you are calling God a liar.  God is a God of truth, love and forgiveness.
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The answer is Jesus is NOT God.\nHe is God's spokesman.\nThat's why he is sometimes called The Word.\nJust like an ambassador represents his government in a far away place.\nHe was sent to Israel, therefore he hesitated to have dealings with anyone not an Israelite.
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I'm a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, better known be nonmembers a Mormons\n\nIntroduction to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints \n\nWhen Jesus Christ lived on the earth, He organized His Church so that all people could receive His gospel and return one day to live with God, our Heavenly Father. After Jesus Christ ascended to heaven, His Apostles continued to receive revelation from Him on how to direct the work of His Church. However, after they were killed, members changed the teachings of the Church that He had established. While many good people and some truth remained, this Apostasy, or general falling away from the truth, brought about the withdrawal of the Church from the earth. The Apostle Peter prophesied that Jesus would restore His Church before His Second Coming (Acts 3:19–21). \nJesus Christ began to restore His Church in its fulness to the earth through the Prophet Joseph Smith in 1820. It has grown to become a worldwide Church with over 12 million members. It has the same teachings and basic organization as the Church established by Jesus in New Testament times. \n\nBasic beliefs \n\nYou may have questions about what members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believe. Some of the basic beliefs of the Church are: \nGod is our Heavenly Father. He loves us and wants us to return to Him. \nJesus Christ is the Son of God. He is our Savior. He redeems us from death by providing the Resurrection. He saves us from sin as we repent. \nThrough the Atonement of Jesus Christ, we can return to live with God if we keep His commandments. \nThe Holy Ghost helps us to recognize truth. \nThe first principles and ordinances of the gospel are faith in Jesus Christ, repentance, baptism, and receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost. \nThe Church of Jesus Christ has been restored to the earth. \nThe priesthood authority of God exists in His Church today, just as it did in the original Church. \nThe Bible and the Book of Mormon are the word of God. \nGod reveals His will to prophets today, just as He did anciently. \nOur life has a sacred purpose. \nFamilies can be together forever. \nThrough serving others, we can experience joy and draw closer to God. \n\nhttp://www.mormon.org/
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Very true i testify that what you say is true in the name of the christ child JESUS. Who died on the cross for our sins so that we may be forgiven. It is not by works alone or power nor is by gaining anything that you have salvation. The only way through the father is the son and the only way to know the father is know the son. Who came to you on this earth. \nIf mormons dont go to the correct jesus then they well be lost the end.
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What Do Mormons Believe: The Primary Differences Between Mormonism & Christianity\n\n\nWhat Do Mormons Believe: Divine Authority\nThe Mormon church uses two sources as its primary authorities: the Book of Mormon and the Bible. The Doctrine and Covenants and The Pearl of Great Price are also viewed as divinely authoritative. The Christian church uses the Holy Bible alone as its authority from God. Joseph Smith is not recognized as a prophet. \n\nWhat Do Mormons Believe: The Nature of God\nThe Mormon church sees God as the Supreme Being of the universe. However, He gradually acquired that position over a long period of time by living a perfect and righteous life. God the Father has a body (flesh and bones). The Christian church proclaims God as eternally and infinitely supreme. He is the same today as always. He is a spirit Being. \n\nWhat Do Mormons Believe: The Nature of Man\nThe Mormon church teaches that humans exist as spirit beings before their birth. At physical birth, bodies are given to these spirits. They are also given an opportunity for free-will choice. The physical world represents a period of probation. The status of a person in the afterlife is determined by the way that person lived their life on Earth. If the person lived by a satisfactory standard, (including the fulfillment of Mormon temple obligations) that person has the potential to become a god in the after-life. They can also produce "spirit children" to populate a world of his own (like God did with the earth). The Christian church holds that humans do not exist as spirits prior to being born into the world. Humans cannot attain godhood or populate other worlds with "spirit children." \n\nWhat Do Mormons Believe: The Nature of Jesus Christ\nThe Mormon church views Jesus and Satan as spirit brothers and sons of God. God put forth His plan of salvation for the world, and Satan proposed his own plan. Jesus accepted the Father's plan and offered to implement it as the Savior. The Father chose Jesus, and the spirit of Jesus was given a body through the virgin Mary. He was crucified on a Roman cross, and rose from the dead three days later to establish His deity. The character and life of Jesus is attainable by anyone who performs at such a righteous level. The Christian church teaches that Jesus Christ has existed eternally as the Son of God, the second "person" of the Trinity. Jesus took on human flesh about 2000 years ago and was born into the world through the virgin Mary. He was crucified on a Roman cross for our sins, and rose from the dead three days later to establish His deity. \n\nWhat Do Mormons Believe: How do we Achieve Salvation\nThe Mormon church holds that Jesus Christ overcame physical death and guaranteed physical resurrection to all mankind. However, spiritual death can only be avoided through personal obedience of God's commandments. Forgiveness of sins requires faith, repentance and baptism by an approved Mormon priest. The practice of baptism for the dead is an extension of this belief, in which Mormons are baptized in proxy for those who have died without proper baptism. The Christian church teaches that we are unable to live a life righteous enough to meet God's perfectly holy standard. Therefore, we establish a relationship with God by faith in the work of Christ on the cross, not by our own works. Baptism and good deeds are acts of obedience to God, but not the means for gaining eternal salvation. \n\nWhat Do Mormons Believe: Life After Death\nThe Mormon church maintains that although there is temporary punishment for those that are most wicked, Jesus Christ will establish a new kingdom that will consist of three levels: the celestial kingdom, the terrestrial kingdom, and the telestial kingdom. The Christian church holds that there are only two possible fates after death, heaven or hell. These locations are final, both physically and spiritually. \n\nLearn More Now! by clicking the Answers bu
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God and Jesus are different. God is the father and Jesus is the son of God.