Isn’t the label “godless liberal”  meaningless?
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Its obviously an appeal to the conservative religious right to say that if you don't believe in God, you must be an immoral person at heart.\n\nThe ironic thing is that we all could name dozens of religious figures who have been anything but moral in their actions.
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Yes, America is hypocritical in allowing some mentions of God in the political space. The reason America gets away with it is because the majority of the population believes in God, so it isn't offensive. I am an atheist and, while the word God doesn't necessarily offend me, it shows that our country is ignorant of other cultures. Which does offend me.
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I agree completely. Here's Penn Jillette's take on this one. I think it speaks for me:\n\nBelieving there is no God means the suffering I've seen in my family, and indeed all the suffering in the world, isn't caused by an omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent force that isn't bothered to help or is just testing us, but rather something we all may be able to help others with in the future. No God means the possibility of less suffering in the future.
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Yeah, that's what I was trying to say in that other question. It's just an abbreviation, not some huge conspiracy to take Christ out of everything and turn the country into some evil secular nation.\n\nThe other guy who brought this up said that people are trying to make this an "ungodly" nation. What I want to know is: If a nation where 80% of people call themselves Christian is ungodly, then what's a "godly" nation?
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In USA (not anywhere else), Christian right and republicans have brought their dogmatic beliefs into our daily life, whether we want it or not. Example - Intelligent Design being taught in school; Govt. opposition for Condoms/ Birth control/ abortions etc; Faith based initiatives using taxpayer dollars etc.\n\nAs a liberal, and traditionalist, and people believing in the scientific principles, this is something to be opposed. \n\nHowever, this also translates into - opposing religion, or Christian ideals. So, it may seem liberals have become dogmatic. But this is not so. \n\nWhen the intrusion of religion into our daily life stops, then liberals would also begin to appear less dogmatic.
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Yup, I am a godless hell bound liberal who hates America.  i guess it doesn't matter that I am an eight year veteran of the United States Army or anything like that.  I defended your right to free speech as well, even though I am an atheist morally corrupt individual.
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That's rubbish.  Liberals are just as Christian as Conservatives and Independents.  Follow your God and don't worry about the politics.
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When the hippocritical right-wing used abortion,gay rights,and other personal freedoms as a platform to make anyone who supported those individual freedoms seem weak and anti-christian. I am sick of hearing conservatives complain about the "liberal" media,every time I turn on my television I see lunatics like Sean Hannity,O'Reilly,Pat Robertson,etc. etc. etc. The title for a movie about the Bush administration should be "The brainwashing of America". If people only knew what this country is really up to...I think a civil war would not be out of the question. I am a liberal and proud. I am not ashamed to say that I support everyones civil rights not just people like myself. Variety is what makes life great. If the conservatives had their way,everyone would dress the same(boring),worship the same god,have sex only in the missionary position,and do only things that their preacher tells them to. I will die before living the way the conservatives want me to live. I hear conservatives call liberals "bleeding hearts" . That is amazing,since when was it a bad thing to care about others? I thought that is what their bible tells them to do....oh thats right...they only talk about the bible,they dont live it. What a bunch of moronic hippocrites. Yeah,I am liberal and damn proud of it...nothing any of you conservative a******* can do about it either!
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Good Point.  I think it is just because they care about their liberal agenda.  They truly don't care about anything else.  That's just my opinion.
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Personally, I am not a Christian nor do I believe in the same creator, Lord as you do. I do however have the modesty and decency to respect your choice in Religion and the civility not to insult it. \n\nPeople who poke fun at the Christian faith, and generalize all Christians into one category, whether it be "stupid" "idiot" "imbecile" or as a recent post stated, "retarded" are only proving to be close-minded. People who insult the Christian faith are people who cannot see a situation from a different perspective, and understand the stance of another.\n\nWhere as one might not believe it to be true, they don't feel a need to respect it, proving only ignorance and barbarity. \n\nI don't believe in your Religion, but I do respect it, and the people who choose to believe in the Christian faith. I see you are very strong willed, and set on your Religion. Such a security is very admirable, and more people should have such an honest devout opinion about nonstereotyping, and freedom as you. \n\nI bid you a good night. \n<3 Ashlee
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This is a GREAT question,(for me anyway)because it touches on two points that have been driving me crazy lately. The first is the intolerance some people display towards Christians. I have a hard time understanding how someone can call themselves a liberal and state that they stand for tolerance and understanding but then down people who are practicing Christians. It's a double standard and hypocritical to boot. Every issue in this country seems to gravitate to ridiculous extremes-there's never a sensible and practical middle ground. Though I believe firmly in seperation of church and state (which our forefathers took months to painstakingly state in the constitution, and with very good reason)I cannot think of one good reason why a child quietly saying grace over his school lunch should be so offensive to some that he should be expelled from school. It's not like he was standing on the tables preaching or anything. Just silently thanking God for the food he had that so many in the world are forced to do without. It's absolutely shameful. Such people are not liberals in any literal sense of the term, but rather small people with set ideas and closed minds-inflexible in their thinking and intolerant of other points of view. You don't like the term progressive regarding such people and neither do I. I call them "Left Wing Conservatives" because their thinking is just as rigid and inflexible as their right wing counterparts. They have an agenda, and they follow it thoughtlessly. \nI think this stems from an innate human need to feel superior and special in some way.  Many, many people find something that works for them and, out of this need, become convinced that their way is the ONLY way. Stupid, yes, arrogant, yes but that's how it seems to work.\nThat being said, let me lob one at the other extreme and say that I'm really tired of hearing certain elements of the Christian Right raving about how oppressed and persecuted the poor helpless Christians are. Let me explain something to you folks-Christianity is by far the majority religion in this country. It is also the richest and has the greatest representation in our government. The Christian Right has more politicians in their pocket than EVERY OTHER religious group in this country combined. People opposing you from passing legislation to impose your religious beliefs on others regardless of what their own beliefs may be does not constitute oppression. What they are doing is resisting YOUR attempts to oppress them.  Again, ridiculous extremes. When in all of history has the group with the largest numbers, the most power, and by far the most money been considered oppressed? It's crap! \nThe extremists on both sides are the problem.  They shout the loudest because that's the only way they can get people to listen to their idiocy. Neither side has a monopoly on intolerence and self righteousness. My solution: Take 1% out of the military budget and build a huge city on some piece of land that no one cares about-White Sands Arizona would be my vote, but other wastelands such as Detroit or Hoboken would work as well. Build a big wall around it and then move all the extremists from both sides in there where they can shout, stomp and do whatever else to each other all they want while the segment of the population with enough sense to pound sand gets on with the business of improving the country. It'll be a better world without 'em. But maybe that's just a little extreme....
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Actually, many Atheists agree with you and use this to claim with 100% certainty that no Gods exist. From this, they conclude that the definition of God is incoherent and has no definition. Something that cannot be defined cannot be claimed to exist as it has no conditional to be true or false.\n\nThis is called the Argument from Theological Noncognitivism.\n\nPersonally, I define a deity as being a supernatural, anthropomorphic entity that created the universe.
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Liberals do not like the "under God" line in it.  After all.... they think they are gods and do not want to be reminded that here is one and they are not him.  Then, they might have to humle themselves before Him.\n\nSue
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Incidental and irrelevant seems to be the campus answer.\n\nThe libs march in search of what they call truth, yet when that same object of desire appears as if it may cast an unfavorable light on their hero, suddenly the truth is "inconsequential".\nOdd.
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NO- atheist does not mean satanist (if you are equating that to evil). A belief system is sacred. I applaud anyone that takes the time to sort things out and not blindly follow the theology (or lack there of)  of their parents/friends/whatever. I occasionally wonder if those that do the right thing because it is the right thing and not to attain entrance into heaven more commendable.  If you are talking about someone who believes in nothing and therefore cares about nothing I'm not sure I would consider them "good"--- but who determines "evil" anyway.
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whoever posted the "salvation link" is an idiot. this isn't an attack on christianity, in fact it supports it. It's an allegory about people not believing in God simply because they have no empirical evidence.
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Fanatics of any faith does not like liberal logical thinking.\nThey just want blinkered faith to fulfill their vested interest.