Marine Corps Boot vs Army Basic?
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I don't know all the hard numbers but USMC Boot camp is the hardest basic training/boot camp in the US military. The Marines qualify on a longer range with the M16, not sure about the exact distance. Here are some hard facts: The Marines boot camp is the longest. You don't get any phone calls home or emails, just letters. It also has the highest attrition rate in the US military. \n\nI talked to someone on a different message board who was in the Army before switching over to the Marines and this is what he said about the services: \n\nOkay being a Marine that has switched services (you can read why in the Marine only board) I have first hand experinces with the NEW Army.\n\nI joined the Army National Gaurd for a "try one" I ended up going to OIF III with them and I will tell you that yes the Army is alot different from the 'Corps.\n\nIn the Army there are only Cpl's in "combat arm" MOS's me being Arty turned Security Forces (basically convoy escort, QRF, gate guard) I was allowed the privilage of retaing my NCO status as Cpl. The wierd thing is the Army has Spc's which are also E-4's these guys are paid the same as a Cpl but have no responsibilty as far as an NCO, being a Cpl in the Army is kinda like being a senior lance cooly, you don't get much respect you just kinda make the best of it and make people respect you through hard work, persaverince, and your Marine Corps leadership traits.\n\nThe majority of the Army doesn't understand the meaning of pride and is about instant gradifacation, awards, patches, and of course screwing around with women.\n\nThe 101st Airborne was coming in theater around the time my unit was rotating out and we shared plenty of time at the chow hall with them. We called the 101st the "hundered and worst" here they were, the pride of America's Army units "Air-Assualt" but in fact they were more like horny rabid dogs, that would steal anything they could and hit on every female on post, (not that its a bad thing to explore your options) but for a female Sgt to allow PFC's and Spc's to call her "sexy girl", and "baby doll" openly and in front of other NCO's and Soldiers and did nothing. It was appauling to say the least.\n\nI don't want to go as far as saying that the recent events that have happened in Iraq with that unit are just but i will say that the new Army's way of allowing **** bags to do as they want to keep the "numbers up" is just pathetic.\n\nThe Army is at war with itself as far as the best way to lead, train and motivate young people to go to war.\n\nThe Army belives that giving berrets and badges away to everyone will make the young troops to as they are told, however, as I said instant gradification only goes so far.\n\nI could go on and on about the faults of the New Army, but I'm not gonna bore you with the mindless *****ing.\n\nsimply put, the Army and the Marine Corps are like apples and oranges. just right now the army is rotting and the Marine Corps is not.
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depends on gender and if you are enlisted, warrant or officer. also on which uniform. BDU, ACU, dress blues....
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Infantry Training is OSUT (One Station Unit Training) and is done a Ft. Benning Georgia. Military training is broken down into two sections. Basic Training and AIT or Advanced Individual Training, which is where you get trained according to your MOS (Military Occupational Specialty) in your case 11B or Infantry.\n\nWhen you finish Basic Training at Ft. Benning you will get a Family Weekend and then report back to the same location you took your Basic Training for your AIT. AIT for the Infantry is rather short so they do not give you a lot of time (Like I said only a weekend) between Basic and AIT.\n\nWhen I went through in 1992, Basic was 8 weeks and AIT was 5 weeks for a total of 13. There was also a week prior to Basic for in-processing into the Military where you get issued your uniforms, shots get updated, paperwork is filled out etc...... making the total time in training about 14 weeks long.
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Not in Army BCT or OSUT (one station unit training, for combat arms soldiers).  Some MOSs, such as divers, do do extensive water training.    \n\nThe Army is a much larger fighting force than the Marines.  The Marine Corps can talk all they want about how hardcore they are, and all that happy bullcrap, but the Army does most of the fighting anyway.  It has been this way since 1775, dude.  We are the main ground force of the United States.  We are fighting and dying in Iraq...with the Marines.  The Army's 3rd Infantry Division BEAT the Marines to Baghdad in the invasion of Iraq...who's hardcore now?  \n\nBasic training is just that, BASIC TRAINING.  Boot camp, basic military training, whatever the name, it is just a program to teach and prepare people for the military.  Soldiers, Marines, and everybody else learn a LOT more in the real force than in basic.
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Air Farce has better training opportunities, but if you're hard-headed and need a kick in the butt to get motivated you need the Marines. I'm Navy, wish I were AF.
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Semper-Fi!!\n\nThis question was actually answered on the radio from an Army spokesman.\n\nThe answer for the constant changes is... Recruiting. They admit that changing from "Be All You Can Be" (the Army's most popular) to "Army of One", and now "Army Strong", their recruiting numbers have went down and down.\n\nThey felt that the "Be All You Can Be" slogan at the time was old and outdated, and instead of sticking to the philosophy of "If it ain't broke don't fix it." the Army opted to reach a new generation instead of staying with tradition.\n\nThere is new talk now to switching from "Army Strong" back to the original "Be All You Can Be" if recruiting numbers do not climb.\n\nI doubt you'll ever see the Marine Corps change theirs.\n\n"The Few, The Proud, Tha Marines!"\n\nOoh-Rah!
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Thanks for anwsering my question now I will anwser yours.\nI have been in the Army for 6 years now. What is your MOS? (job title) Im a 11B Infantryman. \n\nWhat to bring. Well when I went I was told to bring all kinds of crap and ended up not needing it. \n\nGet a nice new pair of running shoes try and brake them in before you go.\n1-2 towels/washcloths. Basic Hygene kit, razors, 1 can shaving cream, tooth brush/paste, None brakable mirror, fingernail clippers WITH NO FILE, and q-tips. \n\nDO NOT BRING knifes, files, pocketwatches. ect..... anything that you think they might take from you they probably will. NO sharp objects... you get the picture. \n\nUnless they changed it over the last 6 years you will get a debit card that has $300.00 (of your first pay check of course that can only be use at the PX store on base) So you will be able to buy more crap that you think you will need when you get there. \n\nAs far as if your in shape or not. If your not in shape now dont worry about it cause you will be by the time you are finnished. When I joined I was 210 .lbs I came out at 150! 4 years later gained it back lol beefcake! Anyways, here are some pointers. If you have a temper learn to keep your mouth shut. Learn quickly what your are tought. If a drill Sgt tells you to do something do it good and as fast as you can. If you fck up alot you will stick out more and they will make your life more of a living hell as they can. I have heard that Basic training has gone soft comparied to what I or thoughs before me went through, not as much yelling and crap. When you get deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan remember what you have been taught and if there is someone in your unit that has been there before get with them and ask as many questions as you can. Learn your job!  \n\nPlease email me and let me know what your MOS is and I will try and give you an idea of what you are in for alittle more. \n\nOh yeah and when you get in ask about the Rakkasans\nwe are the craziest unit there is. \n\nHave fun and good luck
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It's gonna be tough no matter where you do basic. I did my basic and advanced training at Ft. Wood. The summers are hot n muggy, and the winters are COLD. Other than that, it's six of one, half a dozen of the other. The major factor on how intense your basic training will be is your M.O.S.There'll usually be companies full of engineers, infantry, etc. These bieng ombat related are going to be made tougher by the drill sargeants (usually also of the same specialty of their inductees). The more relaxed occupations, like supply, admin, etc don't require as tough a conditioning. There being no point to making their lives miserable, Basic companies of these students are going to be alot more relaxed.
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As a former Marine...the very things you mentioned are the things that would be a deficit, no matter what branch you picked.  Until, and unless, you decide that the way and the type of life your living is in serious need of change, then what would be the point of joining.\nThe military looks for the best, the cream of the crop, in those they choose. And they have the applicants to do this. If this is what you want...become something that they would WANT, not something they would dismiss out of hand.\nBoot camp is a preperation, but you can wash out of it easily, and in part it is to filter out those who cannot cut it in the military.
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There are some Marines and Soldiers that are tougher than others but as a whole the Marines are better pound for pound. The Marines are similar to the ancient Spartans in that for the most part an individual Marine is average in sheer physical strength as is the Soldier.  When there is more than one Marine together with a common objective, they are unstoppable.  The main differences between the Army and the Marines is in their training, dedication, drive, motivation, discipline, heart, skill, their sense of purpose and duty and mostly their attitude.  In those areas, the United States Marines blow everyone else away.  If anyone is in doubt as to what I have just stated, just do a little research and answer these two questions; Who is more famous, more respected and has a bigger reputation world wide?  Why do you see so many Marine stickers on automobiles than any other branch of service when the U.S. Marines is so small in comparison?  Here are a few more questions that might keep you busy.  Why are the Marines the ones that guard American Embassies?  Why have the Marines had to take over Army duties and tasks time and again?  Why did General MacArthur order the Marines to remove their canvas leggings in the Korean War?  Why is the Marine Band called the President's Own?  Why is there a Marine Air One and not an Army One?  Why is it that the Marines guard the White House?  Why were the Marines the ones asked to guard the U.S. Mail in the early 1900s' and not the Army?  And finally, my personal answer to your question.  Maybe not always the Marine, but most of the time.  If I had to bet on one of them in a fight I would always put my money on the Marine.  The Marine might not win but you can bet your *** that he will have to be dead or almost dead at the end if he loses.  If I had to bet on who would quit first, I would put all of my money on the soldier.  Semper Fidelis!!!!!!!!
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All have different missions one is better than the other for doing a certain task and that one will be better than another to do a different task.\nAll are top noch and if the only reason you want to serve is for the glory... Bad choice!! You may get in and get booted in boot camp. Just go in with an open mind. Good Luck!
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marines are about 6 and army is 12-18 usely
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i used to use that stuff, even have a can of it still, (it is dried up) It is called "turtle wax combat boot polish" and comes in a camo can. It seemed to work the best on issue boots.
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My dear lady, the Army is the largest branch of the military. But bigger is not always better. \nRemeber Army stands for AINT READY for MARINES YET!!!!!\n\nHOORAH!!!!!\nUSMC 4 LIFE
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Glad to be of some assistance in your quest and here\nare some websites that might be of interest to you. Hope\nthese will help.http://www.armybasic.homestead.com/basic.html\nhttp://www.baseops.net/basictraining/army.html\nhttp://www.armybasic.org/portal/index.php\nUS Army basic training is a nine-week course and is very intense training where you will learn the fundamental skills of being a soldier. Good Luck if you would like to join up with a career with the US ARMY. US Army (RET)\n21 years.
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In the US Military. Being flat footed isn't a disqualifier any more. Arches in boots are much better now.
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Ok, ready for the infantry Marine's answer?  Both are a terrible experience that'll make you see how much of your body you can fit in your helmet.  Given the choice, I'd much rather be in a firefight than on the receiving end of artillery.  Arty is very very devastating and the cannons are a couple thousand meters off, so it's not like you can return fire or do much about it.  In a firefight at least you can fight back, and you'll basically know where your enemy is, so you can have something to work off of.  Both are really bad though.