No sex tonite with out marriage infidels?
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Well then I guess I am going to hell.
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I agree with you completely. Just about anybody can have sex. All you need is fully functioning genitals and a willing partner, the latter of which isn't hard to find these days. To have the self-control and moral courage to say "no" when sexually tempted, however... those are qualities much harder to come by.\n\nThe current "intentional virgins are weird" attitude is a relatively new one. In the days of ancient Rome, the Germans held chastity/celibacy to be a great virtue. The longer a young man could "hold out", the more manly and strong he was believed to be. The Christian religion has always put a great value on chastity and has said that permanent celibacy in the name of God is a noble thing for those who can manage it (Paul in particular made a point of this). The same attitude can be found in Islam and Buddhism.\n\nNo, the current view on sex vs. celibacy emerged gradually over the 20th century and became prominent in the 1960s. I think the attitude that celibacy is a negative thing comes from the "feel good", hedonistic turn that Western society has taken. "If it feels good, do it" has become the commandment by which most of our society lives. This attitude has become the norm, and as we all know, anybody who challenges the norm quickly becomes a target for ridicule. \n\nThe "goodie-goodie" label is one that has always been hurled at others by people with guilty consciences. They know that their actions are wrong, and it infuriates them that someone else can succeed (at controlling their baser instincts) where they have failed. The only option left to them is to try to make their deviant behavior seem normal, and they do that by belittling those who did what society considers right.\n\nI think chastity still has some support in the Western world, but permanent celibacy is pretty much looked down on here. The thought that someone would not EVER have sex seems like blasphemy in a culture where sexuality plays such a large role. I think that chastity and permanent celibacy still hold high respect in most of the rest of the world, however, especially in the developing world.\n\nMy personal feeling is that EVERYONE should be chaste. It isn't unreasonable to be asked to keep your pants on until the wedding night. As for intentional, permanent celibacy (like Catholic clergy are pledged to), I think that should only be attempted by those with a lot of self-control. Like St. Paul said, "It is better to marry than to burn." On the other hand, if a person CAN manage it, then I say the more power to them. They have my respect.
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ALL married people should refrain from adultery, not just muslims. If people want to sleep around, then they should never get married.
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So you are saying only those married in the church should have sex? In other words, anyone married in another religions ceremony will not go to your heaven and be accepted by your God?\n\nI am floored by this narrow thought process. I wouldn't believe in a God that would be so closed minded about the joys our bodies bring us. Why do you think we enjoy s e x? Your God made these bodies according to you right? Then why did he make them so responsive to the act? \n\nI give up....according to you...I am going to your hell. That said, thank the Goddess I don't believe in your hell.\n\nGood Luck.
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neither marriage nor sex..but ur death
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Why not? Mahammad was a child molestor, a fornicator, and lived in adultery while initiating war and violence. He had NO MORALS WHATSOEVER! No mocking of any religion here, just speaking the truth.
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is there not one islamic person who has a spark of a brain cell, and can see through this myth of a religion?...of course the law is not fair to women and children,, i would love to see isalmic women rebel and start castrating their men in their sleep..it would serve them right..
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ex-spouse....don't have to worry about sex
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If the sex issue is the real reason you have an issue with "religion"...bear with me, because I have also beat myself up over this...I'm 51 now, but I was beautiful years ago, and passionate, etc.  I also had a real attitude about B.S. when it went against my instincts, etc.  I discovered, and I offer you the proof that I dug up, that NOWHERE does the word of Jesus have anything against passion, hot sex, at all, ever...His word is critical of cheap sex, lying to your mate,etc---sex with intense love is God's gift...but its sacred and is made into garbage if used just to get off, or for the ego to abuse its magic to feel like a big stud, and equally for a beautiful woman to abase her power to attain power or gems,etc, using sex in a debased way.  That is ALL that was said...loving passionate sex is our gift..it is sacred and is never bad unless misused.  The Catholic church came along and twisted things very badly.  The student of life need only take a quick look at this, and its clear that we are being lied to big time...Priests were NEVER forbidden to take a wife at first...Jesus honored our needs, only wanted us to be clean about it...Then the catholics came along and burned people because they read books, were midwives, whatever...Meanwhile they were burning Mayans and their books, lying and cheating and murdering the new world for their gold.  What a load of crap...God has always said that sex is good...so much so that it needs to be honored...that's all...And any person  alive realizes that sex is the maximum...The catholics forbid it and then hide their pedophile priests...and make the rest of us all screwed up and guilty about our drives.  I agree totally withyour letter...long ago I was so fed up with the taboo, I purposely checked it out to see what was the big deal...in a very short time I got the answer for myself..SEX is great...but can be a sin when there is no emotion involved...Somebody will be hurt...like it or not...its not meant to be used as a health treatment, ever.  It is really sacred, fuck the catholics, and fuck the cynics also.  Sex is not meant to be used for recreation, or its health benefits.  You may disagree, I challenge you to respond to my message.
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Yes, the religous folk do seem very contradictory at times. Personally, I believe that a lot "religious people" (Think Dana Carvey as the Church Lady) miss the point of their beliefs. And that is acceptance. The way gay marriage is being protrayed in the media is almost laughable if it weren't true. Them not being allowed to get married is just another form of discrimination and this time in history will be marked for this civil right. I don't believe people will start marrying sheep or some other idiotic claim these people make. It's just fear of the unknown and the fear makes these people want to get rid of it. \n\nAs for sex, it's a natural thing. Whether you believe me or not, religion is a way of controlling behavior, look back to the Middle Ages if you don't believe me, and sex is one of those urges though totally natural, suppressed. Just like nudity (see Genesis) or other "sins." As for why these people speak of it constantly, well, let's just call it "sexual frustration" and thus they must get the frustration out of their system. It's a lot like if you had a fight with a friend and have to vent to someone so you feel better.
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Any sexual intercourse between a man and a woman when they are not married to each other is strictly forbidden in Islam. Adultery is the English word for unlawful sexual intercourse between a married man and a married woman who is not his lawful wife. If those who commit the offense are not married, then it is called fornication. It is important to make the distinction because the punishment is different.\n\n\nQuoting from the Holy Quran:\n\n" Nor come nigh to adultery: for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils)." \n\n017.033 \n\na·dul·ter·y: Voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a partner other than the lawful spouse.\n\nIn the verse i quoted it shows how Adultery is the opening door for evil and other sins.
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Problem is deeper. It's a Phylosofical problem (usually are not practic). Condom is not the problem, but behavior is.\n\nYou are not allowed to do sex before marriage. \nOnce married you are not allowed to have sex relations with other person. \nAnd MOST important of all: When you do sex, you do to have children and not to have pleasure. After 60's Pope told that having pleasure during the sex is not sin. ... since you are respecting all rules above. \n\nThese are main rules and as a Catholic, you cannot avoid it. If Catholic church allow to use condom, it means that they allow to do those wrong things too. \n\nIt's just a matter of Ethics and cause and consequence about rules. Religion cannot be flexible as moral is. Change this concept means change part of what has been teach during so long time .... and it has consequences.
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Besides what Sherzade and Smiley mentioned I would add a few more.\n\nCleanliness is very important in Islam and it's said that it alone is the basis for half the faith.\nBan against drug/alcohol. We all know the terrible side effects of these substances.\nBan against gambling. Imagine one lucky casino operator and another lucky winner getting rich, where as the most getting poor and some into serious financial problems.\nBan against eating pork: The dirtiest and most unhealthy of all animals.\nBan against sex before marriage. We all know whats going on in america where pre-marital sex is prevalent. Women have become sex objects and these days middle schoolers are having sex as it considered cool! and nothing is done about it.
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Yes.  The Bible makes it clear that there is no marriage in heaven.  THey're not waiting for you in heaven as your spouse, they're waiting for you as brothers or sisters in Christ.
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First it is not many it is only 4!!\nAllah allowed us to marry 4 wives but also we are warned to be very carefuk about this issue and only take this step if there is no hope at all in this wife whatever the fault might be and since the worst legal thing to do is divorce it is taken as the last option at all and it's better not to consider it\nAs the Islam tells us we must be able to marry and carry all the burdons but also Islam warned us that we will never be fair to the wives whatever we do but we must try our best
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Its a sad world that produces such consistently narrow minded responses as the ones above.\n\nEvery single one of the above repondents equates Marriage with Sex, not Love.\n\nSex plays an often small if not non existent part in many marriages.   It is inevitable that in some marriages one partner may have a strong sexual urge where the other doesn't.  \n\nThe nature of an individual's sexual urge or even orientation may change over time whilst not necessarily affecting the love one has for a partner.\n\nIn such circumstances an otherwise healthy loving relationship may be put under strain if there is not an outlet for those urges.\n\nInfidelity is commited by the heart not the loins.  \n\nThere are many avenues one can explore to find a sexual release that is emotionally limited.   These avenues, USED SENSIBLY, can fill a gap in your life and relieve an itch before it consumes both yourself and your marriage.
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I think your question has an ulterior motive. If that is so , I am not participating.\n\nYet  Avik is not wrong. \n\nHomosexuality is really very common practice among Muslims. And yes I read that you can find gays in Karachi very easily.\n\nMuslims brought the custom of enunches with them in India. Most of them work as gay prostitutes and follow Islam as religious practice.\n\nI am Not blaming Islam for it. I think it was arabic tradition or at least part of middle eastern culture. Really more common than you think.\n\nRead books by Rahi Masoom Raza , a Muslim writer. His auto biographical novel and as well as others.It is full of refereces of gay and bisexual relationships. All with Muslim background. Even the local Maulavis.\n\nAnd dont you know in heaven they are not offered only 72 virgins it also say 28 young boys (Shilame(?))  along with the virgins. Again I read it in a book by a Muslim and a female character who was very angry at her fiance refers to this concept. I did not read it at any hate site agaist Islam.