Concerning trinity can you explain to me this verse?
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Yes I can explain it easliy. The trinity is a false teaching. It's obvious from this scripture and others that God and Jesus are seperate and Jesus is God's son. See the following about the origin of the trinity - it's not taught in the Bible:\n\nThe New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.\n\nThe New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.\n\nIn The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.\n\nAccording to the Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”—(Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.\n\nJohn L. McKenzie, S.J., in his Dictionary of the Bible, says: “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”—(New York, 1965), p. 899.
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The Concept of Trinity is the teaching of Church and not the Teaching of Jesus...In fact there is not a singel word pronounced as Trinity in the Bible... The only verse which is somewhat nearest to the concepet of Trinity is the First Epistle of John 5:7 which says "For there are three who bear record in Heaven, The Father, The Word and the Holy Ghost and these three are one"...\n\nSurprisingly this verse has now been removed by 32 Christian Scholars of the Highest Eminence backed by 50 Cooperating Denominations, they say that this verse is not found in the most ancient manuscripts and hence is a fabrication. You don't find this verse anymore in INV and RSV though other Bibles are still quoting this fabricated statement.\n\nTrinity was actually highlighted by Paul and he was directly inspired by the Roman Paganism...\n\nFor more Information...\n\nshiekhtm@yahoo.com
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congratulations for using your mind\n\n-------\n\nfirst of all, trinity is not understandable. There is only one God. not three in one God. \nIf God is the Father and also the Son, then He would then be the Father of Himself because He is His own Son. This is illogical!\n\n\n-------\nfurthermore, look and this verse of bible. \n\nMark 13:32 \n"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." \n\nIf Jesus and God are equal then they should be equal in knowledge. But as we can see, God is greater in knowledge than Jesus. The fact that one "personality" of God has knowledge not available to the other "two thirds" is a clear indication that they are distinct and separate beings, and not three faces of one being.\nAnd if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?\n\nSome say his human nature prevented him from knowing. Reasonably, though, if, as some believe, he was fully God, nothing could prevent him from knowing. How can human nature prevent God from knowing anything, particularly something of such import?  That further proves that Jesus was not all-powerful, because if he was all-powerful, then he would have power to know the final hour and to give himself this knowledge. \n\nFurthermore, if someone thinks that Jesus the man did not know, then he is missing a point that according to Christians, Jesus was 100% man and 100% God in one body. It means, Jesus possessed the same intellect of God and man.  If he had the same intellect then he should have same knowledge. But when we read the text it says only the father knows. This means that even the "DIVINE JESUS" doesn't know. This means that no one else knows including the divine Jesus. Therefore, Jesus lacks being All-knowing. and we know that God is All-knowing, hence, Jesus cannot be God. \n\n\n\n\n\nQuran (holy book of islam) says in chapter  4 verse 171 \n"Say not ‘Trinity’: desist: \nIt will be better for you for \nAllah is one God."\n[Al-Qur’an 4:171]\n\n \n\nQuran says in Surah Maidah chapter 5 verse 73\n"They do blaspheme who say\nGod is one of three\nIn a Trinity: for there is \nNo god except One God.\nIf they desist not\nFrom their word (of blasphemy),\nVerily a grievous penalty\nWill befall the blasphemers\nAmong them."\n\n=================\n\nHOPE THIS ANSWERS
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Both early teaching and the scriptures state it must be in the name of the Trinity.  Jesus gives everything to the Father.  The Spirit enlivens us.  To do it in the name of Jesus alone is to miss an important aspect of Christianity.
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"God"  He is the Father, Son(Jesus), And Holy Spirit. Jesus told his disciples he would return to them through the Holy spirit God is the Holy Spirit. They are all the same One God.  God Bless!!
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Good question.\n\nIt's part of that confusing concept: the trinity. Tri-une means three which are at the same time one. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are all together one God!\n\nLet's face it. God invented the concept of 3 and he can ignore any rules he wants to, especially when he is not a physical object.\n\nGod's Triune nature reflects God's infinite complexity. God is more complex than we can understand. The finite created mind is not greater than the infinite creator.\n\nGod's Triune nature also reflects God's relational nature and his self-sufficiency. God by himself is in perfect community while being complete in himself.\n\nHumans are not. Humans are created in the "image of God" which means we relate at a higher level (language) than any other creature. In fact, human beings need relationships. Solitary confinement often sends people insane. So we seek to become a complete unit by uniting with a partner. We survive in community because we are not self-sufficient.\n----------------------------------\n\nTo sit at The Father’s right hand was to be given the place of power, blessing, honor, preeminence and rulership. Literally the highest place and to share in that throne. \n\nIt also fulfills a Messianic prophecy:\nPsalm 110:1  YHWH (God's name) said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, till I make Your enemies Your footstool."\n\nHope this helps.
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Jehovah is what you're going for.\n\nAs for the trinity, what do you make of Genesis 1:26-27?\n\n26Then God said, “Let US make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27So God created man in HIS own image; in the image of God HE created him; male and female HE created them.
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There is no mention of the " Trinity" in the Bible, I hate to admit that so many Christians have been brainwashed into beleiving it is but it is an unscriptural representation of God. If more people would read the good book themselves they wouldn't be so easily fooled. And to all the people that are using  the name Elohim to infer a Trinity, Elohim is a name of God in reference to his role as Creator. I suspectt he concept of the Trinity is an absorbed pagan belief like so many others in modern day Christianity.
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I did, and many other people with me. I learned about the Holy Trinity. The Father is love, mercy and compassion. The Son is the path to the Father. Nobody goes to the Father except through the Son. The Holy Spirit is wisdom.
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The trinity is not a Christian teaching. And Christians do not need a visible symbol of their faith. They go on "walking by faith, not by sight." (2 Cor. 5:7)
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The Trinity is the combination of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost as three "people" making up one God-head.  It came about in the early Church as a way of reconcile the three figures mentioned in the New Testament with the single God of the Old Testament.\n\nIf there was a fourth one, I guess it would be called the Quadrity ("trinity" from Latin for "three-fold", "quad" is Latin for "four").\n\nActually, the "we" and "us" mentioned in Genesis has nothing to do with the Trinity.  It's called the "royal we", a term that royalty uses to refer to themselves (God is "King of Kings", is he not?).  Queen Victoria gave a famous example in reference to a performance of Gilbert & Sullivan's HMS Pinafore, "We are not amused."  "We" refers to herself, but since she is queen, she doesn't say "I am not amused."
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I'm not sure the classic explanation of the Trinity is the only way to reconcile the scriptures that have led to that doctrine, actually.  I think it is much simpler than we make it out to be.  I believe that the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are simply in complete agreement with each other.  Therefore when one speaks, He speaks for all three of them.  And when you talk to one, you essentially talk to all three.  There is no plurality of ideas or desires, no conflict.  In that sense, and I believe in that sense only, they are one.
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God was speaking to the Trinity. The word God in the Hebrew language implies plural yet still singular (kinda like saying one family). There is only one God, but He is 3 distinct beings - Father, Son (Word), and Holy Spirit
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE "TRINITY"\n\n1st of all Jesus said: He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.—Joh 6:56, 57.\n\nJesus’ being called the “only-begotten Son” (Joh 1:14; 3:16, 18) does not mean that the other spirit creatures produced were not God’s sons, for they are called sons as well. (Ge 6:2, 4; Job 1:6) However, by virtue of his being the sole direct creation of his Father, the firstborn Son was unique, different from all others of God’s sons, all of whom were created or begotten by Jehovah through that firstborn Son. So “the Word” was Jehovah’s “only-begotten Son” in a particular sense,\n\nJesus is also “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.” This does not mean that he usurps the authority and position of Jehovah, who is “God our Father.” (2 Corinthians 1:2) “He [Jesus] . . . gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3;\n\nDoes the Bible teach that all who are said to be part of the Trinity are eternal, none having a beginning?\n\nRev. 1:1; 3:14, RS: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him .  Why did God have to give Jesus the revelation, if Jesus is God?\n\nDoes the Bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the Trinity is greater or less than another, that all are equal, that all are almighty? Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)\n\nJohn 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”\n\n1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven. \n\nA person who is really seeking to know the truth about God is not going to search the Bible hoping to find a text that he can construe as fitting what he already believes. He wants to know what God’s Word itself says. He may find some texts that he feels can be read in more than one way, but when these are compared with other Biblical statements on the same subject their meaning will become clear. It should be noted at the outset that most of the texts used as “proof” of the Trinity actually mention only two persons, not three; so even if the Trinitarian explanation of the texts were correct, these would not prove that the Bible teaches the Trinity.\n\nI COULD GO ON & ON WITH SCRIPTURES & EXPLANATIONS, BUT I THINK THIS ALREADY TO LONG FOR SOME PEOPLE.
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Let's get one thing straight. The verses you quoted were statements made by Jesus; not Almighty God. The trinity doctrine that is widely taught in Christendom is really throwing you off. When Jesus is making these statements he's humbly acknowledging that in fact the "father" is greater than him. This is further reiterated in John 14:28. Why would almighty God who knows all things would not know for instance the day of Judgment?_Psalms 83:18 Notice that the scripture that you quoted (Mark 13:2) says in the 2nd part of the verse:"neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the "Father." Again this stresses that Jesus or the Son of God doesn't know the day, but his FATHER would know. Clearly this shows that Jehovah God and Jesus are two different people and that this shows a distinction between them. If Jesus and God were the same wouldn't Jesus know the day of Judgement too?\nThe many other statements that Jesus makes further show that he is not equal to his father._Philippians 2:6: "who, although he was existing in God's form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God."_1 Corinthians 11:3, John 20:17. Similiarly, no son is equal to his father or the same as him. Sure they may look alike, talk, or act alike but you recognize them as two separate entities not combined in one. In John 5:19 Jesus makes it clear that he doesn't do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he beholds the Father doing. Also whatever that One does he also does in like manner.\nAfter reasoning from the scriptures you can conclude that from your statements above, Jesus was not only recognizing his father as greater than he was but was giving his father praise and honor by giving him the credit. You can also conlcude that if you read the Bible nodenominationally you would not come to the conclusion that God is part of a trinity which is contradicted in the scriptures. Instead Christ is "one" with God (not literally) in that they are always in harmony with each other just like a husband and wife were to be one as in united together._Genesis 2:24. The trinity really blurs the relationship between God and Jesus and is a source of confusion for many. You can find more information on this particular subject from this link. http://www.watchtower.org/library/ti/article_04.htm
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my interpretation of this verse has to do with sin.  If you repent this sin on earth, it will be forgiven in heaven.
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Trinity is not excepted because people do not understand the meaning but they think they do but are wrong. The true meaning you said before. Three + unity = trinity. 1+1+1=3. The 3 being as a single digit representing God but containing 3 whole separate numbers representing Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. These 3 are equal but have diferent functions. an egg contains 3 parts but is one also. 3 in 1 motor oil has 3 diferent typs of lubricating substances but are mixed as one, yet have diferent lube propertys and purposes. Trinity has a complex understanding in which many people will not agree because of thier lack of understanding. 2 people will believe the same thing but one will deny the trinity.