If John the Baptist was not sure about the divinity of Jesus, how can anyone else be?
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That only shows me just how human John the Baptist was.
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No, I don't think it is possible. Jesus said that he would come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, so if this guy hasn't been heard and seen by everybody, he's just a Messiah-wannabe. Jesus said, "Many will come in My name and deceive many."
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Easy, he can't.\n\nBut that is not too difficult to see once you realize that there is no God in the first place.\n\nThere are other contradictions as well. For example, God is supposed to be omniscient (all-knowing) as well as omnipotent. So if He knows everything He knows the future. So He knows what He will do in the future. So how can He be omnipotent if He can't do something other than what He knows He will do. He is not powerful enough to overcome His own foreknowledge.\n\nGod is supposed to be omnibenevolent, all-loving (in my opinion the weakest of all Christian characterizations of God). If so, God is not powerful enough to control His own emotions. He can't "not love" something.
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We cannot really argue who Jesus was according to the Bible, because of the agreed lack of a process of authentic transmission. Can we really put our faith into an English translation of a Greek/Latin translation of another translation of another translation of Aramaic/Hebrew/Syriac writings of Hellenistic Jews who never met Jesus and, according to the Bible actually fought against the Original Disciples and their teachings? Even the sincere men who put together the most accurate translation to date (NIV) say that we still know very little about Jesus. \n\nHence as much as it is great to see passion in believing in Jesus, I hope that we can be sincere enough to review our beliefs for the sake of God. May God guide us all.
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Do you mean:\n\n- There is not one God?\n\n- That God is not almighty, not the maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen?\n\n- There is not one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father?\n\n- Jesus did not came down from heaven for us and our salvation?\n\n- Jesus was was not born of the Virgin Mary by the power of the Holy Spirit, and did not become man?\n\n- It was not for our sake that Jesus was crucified under Pontius Pilate?\n\n- Jesus did not suffer, did not die, and was not buried?\n\n- On the third day Jesus didn't rise again in fulfillment of the scriptures?\n\n- Jesus didn't ascend into heaven and is not seated at the right hand of the Father\n\n- Jesus won't come again in glory to judge the living and the dead?\n\n- Jesus' kingdom will have an end?\n\n- There is no Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son?\n\n- The Holy Spirit has not spoken through the Prophets?\n\nI do not think that the Nicene Creed is a pack of lies.\n\nWith love in Christ.
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"}\ndid Jesus claim to be God and the son of God?\nyes \n\ndid he demand that he be believed \nyes\n\nNot only did he make that claim for himself but the father made it on his behalf!
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•Jesus is not a Saviour. He is not capable, even, to save himself from his enemies. How he can be considered “All-Able” to save everyone on the earth. It is the Lord alone__ Who is the All-Able to save every creature of the universe including the mankind__ as the Lord is already saving__ each of them__ without any desolation and defect.\nThe Same God is the God of Jesus who was the God of Jacob and Moses (peace & blessings of God be upon all the three). The one God, beside whom, there is no God at all.\n\nJesus is not the inventor of Trinity. Nor he is presenting him as one of three Gods. Nor he is telling the One God as the third of the three gods. Instead, he is openly rejecting the concept of Trinity, which stands for the following three gods.\n\n1.The God of Moses____ Jehovah\n2.The word of God_____ Jesus\n3.Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost.\n\nThe Trinity is a baseless concept in terms of the Verse under reference, the verse 3 of the prayer.\n\nTorah says,\n“Remember This! The Lord and the Lord alone___ is our God.\nLove the Lord your god with all your heart,\nWith all your soul, and with all your strength.”\n(Deut 6:4-5)\n\n“Fear the Lord your God, worship only God,\nand make your promises in God’s name alone.\nDo not worship other gods,\nAny of the gods of the people around you.\nIf you do worship other gods,\nThe Lord’s anger will come against you\nLike fire and will destroy you completely,\nBecause the Lord your God,\nWho is present with you, tolerates no rivals.”\n(Deut 6:13-14-15)\n\n“God is a great god and (only) one to be feared.’\n(Deut 7:21)\n\nPrior to Jesus, the Lord had created Eve, without mother__ and Adam, without mother and father, the both. Afterwards, the Lord created Jesus without father. So the creation of Jesus, without father, is the third instance of the Lord’s all-encompassing creativity___ which is free from all the channels or systems of the birth. Instead, all the channels or systems of the birth are subservient to the all-encompassing and unique creativity of the Lord.\n\nJesus was born after Adam, Noah, Abraham, Ismael, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon, Moses and the numerous other Prophets (peace & blessings of God be upon all of them). If he were the Son-God, then, all of the foregoing Prophets, must have been the believers of Trinity. But the case is not like that at all. None of them was the believer of Trinity, rather, none of them, had, even, heard about the name of Trinity, in their times. Hence, Trinity is nothing else but an invented and artificial concept which has no existence, even, during the time of Jesus. It is, therefore, a rootless concept from all accounts.\n\n•Jesus believed in the same God___ who was believed in__ by Adam, Noah, Ibrahim, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses and all the prophets (peace &blessings of the LORD be upon all of them).\n\nAccording to Jesus, God, the Holy One; is the Saviour of the Whole mankind. God is capable (be God glorified as God is) to relive off every infliction. None of the human beings is saviour beside God. Jesus, himself is also, not a saviour at all. The people who have chosen him as their saviour__ they have denied the Holy One___ who alone is the saviour of Jesus and whole mankind and the act of choosing Jesus as saviour__ is equal to hate the Holy One___ as it is clearly written in the old Testament:-\n\n“I am the Lord your God. Worship no God but Me. Do not make for yourself images of anything in heavens or on earth or in the water under the earth. Do not bow down to any idol or worship it. Because I am the Lord your God and I tolerate no rivals. I bring punishment on those who hate me, on their descendants, down to third and fourth generation.”\n(Exodus 20:1-5)\nDuring his preaching, Jesus had never called himself as God or Son-God.Now, look upon those people who consider Jesus as God or Son-God. They are, baselessly, blaming even those people who were present at the spot and knew that Jesus was not God or son-god. In
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JESUS CHRIST IS NOT SON OF GOD:\n\n1. God Is All Knowing.....But Jesus Was Not \n\nWhen speaking of the Day of Judgement, Jesus clearly gave evidence of a limitation on his knowledge when he said, "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the son, but the Father." (Mark 13:32 and Matt. 24:36) \n\n2. God Is All-Powerful.....But Jesus Was Not \n\nWhile Jesus performed many miracles, he himself admitted that the power he had was not his own but was derived from God when he said, "Verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do..." (John 5:19). Again he said, "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not mine own will but the will of the Father which has sent me." (John 5:30) \n\n3. God Does Not Have A God.....But Jesus Did Have A God \n\nGod is the ultimate judge and refuge for all, and He does not call upon nor pray to any others. But Jesus acknowledged that there was One whom he worshipped and to Whom he prayed when he said, "I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God." (John 20:17). He is also reported to have cried out while on the cross, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt. 27:46). If Jesus were God, then couldn't this be read, "Myself, myself, why hast thou forsaken me?". Would that not be pure nonsense? When Jesus prayed the Lord's Prayer (Luke 11:2-4), was he praying to himself? When in the garden of Gethsemane he prayed, "O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless, not as I will but as thou wilt." (Matt. 26:36). Was Jesus praying to himself? That Jesus, of his own admission and by his own actions, acknowledged, worshipped, and prayed to another being as God is clear proof that Jesus himself is not God. \n\nAccording to the Bible, God is an invisible spirit.... \n\n4. But Jesus Was Flesh And Blood \n\nWhile thousands saw Jesus and heard his voice, Jesus himself said that this could not be done with God when he said: "No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18). "Ye have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His shape." (John 5:37) He also said in John 4:24: "God is a spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth." Jesus would say that no one had seen or heard God at any time, while his followers both saw and heard him, is clear proof that Jesus was not God. \n\nNO ONE IS GREATER THAN GOD AND NO ONE CAN DIRECT HIM... \nBUT JESUS ACKNOWLEDGED SOMEONE GREATER THAN HIMSELF... \n\n5. Will Was Distinct From His Own \n\nPerhaps the clearest indication we have that Jesus and God are not equal, and therefore not one and the same, comes again from the mouth of Jesus himself who said in John 14:28: "My Father is greater than I." When someone referred to him as a good master in Luke 18:19, Jesus responded: "Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is God..." Furthermore, Jesus drew clear distinctions between himself and God when he said, "I proceeded forth and came from God, neither came I of myself but He sent me." (John 8:42) Jesus gave clear evidence of his subordination to God, rather than his equality with God, when he said in Luke 22:42, "not my will but Thine be done" and in John 5:30, "I seek not mine own will but the will of the Father which has sent me." Jesus admitted that he did not come into the world on his own initiative but was directed to do so, he acknowledged another being as greater than himself, and he negated his own will in deference to affirming the will of another. All of the above give clear proof that Jesus is not the Supreme One and therefore Jesus is not God. \n\nConclusion \n\nThe Church recognises the Bible as the primary source of knowledge about God and Jesus. But since the Bible makes
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The Gospel of John was written by a follower of that largest religion, so I don't think you're going to find the hard, unbiased evidence you're looking for there.\n\nIn fact, if you come right down to it, we cannot confirm or deny that Jesus said any of the things attributed to him.\n\nDoes that matter?  No.  What matters is that people BELIEVE he is the Son of God who died, rose, and ascended into heaven.  A philosophy professor of mine always argued that faith and reason do not stand in opposition to one another, nor must they agree.  Rather, they stand apart as coequals, as equally valid ways to finding truth.  He convinced me.
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Well, assuming that we knew he had consummated the life choice/marriage I expect they would be shocked equally by each statement, since they (and other Christians, don't forget us!) believe that Jesus was celibate, and each statement would equally contradict this belief.\n\nThis is quite a question! Presumably he wouldn't have been gay AND married (although he may have been in your hypothetical question!) so it actually concerns two alternative realities!
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NO He did not! If He had then He could not be the savior. Mat. 27:46; Mark 15:34; He asked God "... why hast THOU forsaken me?" He did not say that He (Jesus) had forsaken God.
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I must think.  He sounds like a Pharisee.  Where he knows the word of God.  But he does not know God.
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I think that verse reveals a lot of modern evanglicalism to be out of step with Scripture. We have a very friendly, easy gospel preached in America where salvation is all up to us. John 6 teaches its not up to us at all in fact we contribute nothing to our own salvation including the will to believe. We are so totally depraved in our sin that we cannot even worship God unless he makes us worshippers. Very humbling.
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Jesus is God. Christians who say otherwise either do not know the fundamentals of the faith, are apostate, or are heretics. The Apostle's and Nicene Creeds both affirm this doctrine, and the biblical evidence is overwhelming.\n\nJesus said of Himself that He was God. He applied the name of God, "I AM," to Himself in several passages. Here's a few examples: Matthew 14:27, Mark 6:50, Mark 13:6, Luke 21:8, John 4:26, John 6:20, John 8:24, 28, 58, and John 13:19. (Some English translations have mistranslated the words "I am" to "It is I," or "I am He.")\n\nJesus received worship, which is reserved only for God:\n\n"Then the men in the boat began to worship Jesus, saying, "You certainly are the Son of God!" (Matthew 14:33)\n\n"Suddenly Jesus met them and said, "Greetings!" They went up to him, took hold of his feet, and worshiped him." (Matthew 28:9)\n\n"They worshiped him and returned to Jerusalem with great joy." (Luke 24:52)\n\n"He said, "Lord, I do believe," and worshiped him." (John 9:38)\n\nFurther, the god of Muhammad is not the Father of Jesus. The Qur'an states rather clearly, "Proclaim: Allah is One. Allah is Eternal. He neither begets nor was begotten." (Surah 112:1-4)\n\nIn Christianity, we believe that Jesus was begotten. (John 1:14) And we believe Jesus to be God.\n\nNow, we have a conundrum. Either Islam is right, and Jesus is not God, nor begotten; or Christianity is right, and Jesus is God, and is begotten. We can't have it both ways. Islam will never hold to a belief that Jesus is God. And Christians will not accept that Jesus is not God, and is not begotten. Therefore, they do not worship the same God.\n\nOther "gods" fall short as well.  There is no other true god than the One of the Holy Bible found in the Old and New Testaments.
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John the Baptist was a prophet who lived the same time as Jesus. He was actually Jesus's cousin; Mary was kin to John's mother Elizabeth.\nJohn was just a man, no more no less. He was so devout to God, and so radical in his teachings, that he was something of an outsider from the religious leaders. The Bible says John lived out in the woods and ate bugs. All he really cared about was preaching.\nHe is known as "the Baptist" because he baptised Jesus in water when Jesus began his own ministry. He was the first to recognize Jesus as "the Lamb of God."\nJohn was arrested and sent to prison, and eventually was executed, though he had committed no specific crime. The Bible records that Jesus was quite saddened by John's death.
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"How did you get to be so knowledgeable?"\n\n\nPS Ricky - are you assuming something else (and tinged with Christianity) about this hypothetical omniscient being?
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Allowing that one does not accept the prophecy from the Old Testament as proof, many of his time refer to his actual existence.  Among these are Josephus, the Jewish Historian, Pliny the younger, Tacitus, Lucian and Hadrian.\nIn all fairness, none of these knew the historical Jesus.  In addition, none of the writers of the 4 gospels directly knew Jesus either.  Paul, however, relates the story of how Jesus appeared to him on the road to Damascus three times in the Book of Acts.  Despite several of these sources, in addition to the Babylonian Talmud, providing reasonable evidence to Jesus' existence, there is no intellectual exercise which will provide this, IMHO, nor do I think it should.  Each is only heuristic, rather than definitive, in its essence.\nNeither will the issue of faith alone provide any proof, as much as some would have it so; faith, by itself proves nothing except that one believes.  One may have faith alone in all sorts of absurdities.\n\nThe difficulty comes when we undeniably understand that we have both a material and spiritual component as human beings.  If we didn't, however, then this whole discussion would just be neurons bumping into one another and would be meaningless.\nThe spiritual component is very difficult to explain in any sense of materialism.  Philosophy treats any ventures into the realm of the spiritual as fantasy, at least that which cannot be verified.\nHowever, if faith in Jesus Christ created a real bond, then this bond would have to be created not only by the believer, but the respondent.  The respondent, in addition, would have to prove that he was God. The difficulty comes as to whether this is possible. How does one verify that God exists?\nBriefly, the Bible teaches us that each one of us who comes to Him must love Him because he loved us first.  In 2 Timothy 3:7, we read about those who seek to learn but never come to the truth.  Paul teaches us that we must love God if we want to know him. (Also see Ephesians 3:17; Philippians 1:9; Colossians 2:2; and also 1 John 2:5.) If we want knowledge without love, it isn’t enough.  We first see Him "as through a glass darkly"(1 Corinthians 13:12) but through our trials and efforts for Him, we come to see more clearly.  \nI suggest that the truth of Jesus lies not in any intellectual sense but in a personal relationship which must be individual: you can't believe because someone else believes and you can't discover it because someone else knows.  Intellectual truth leads to skepticism and denial.  While it is good to be skeptical of things, even Jesus' existence and association with the resurrection mysteries you cite, the real proof comes in the consistency of God's promise.  Be forewarned: new believers usually suffer persecutions.  In fact, persecutions are promised to all believers (2 Timothy 3:12.)  Not everyone wants you to believe in the truth of Jesus Christ.