When did Army recruiters start acting like politicians?
928354
They know volunteering has gone way down because of what's going on in Iraq and they will say anything to get recruits...even if they have to lie.\n\nIt's a real shame that some of the recruiters have sunk to that level by becoming just like the current Administration...they too are famous for keeping the truth from The Public!\n\nI served in the Army Reserve for 6 years and was proud to do so but when I signed up, I was told the truth...My recruiter told me, it will be no picnic, especially if you are deployed to a trouble spot.\n\nFunny that some recruiters would say :"We are bringing people back" when by watching the news, it's the opposite...The Secretary Of Defense has just given OK for even more troops to be sent to Iraq.
786082
LOL, you know they did! Cowards try in the beginning of a fight to look like hero's, talking smack, but after they start to realize there really is going to be a fight, they back down, and say they didn't REALLY mean it. I'll bet you the fastest runner's in Congress are all liberals.
390863
since WWII, we've been drafted, but mostly NA's volunteer for the service.\n\n\nAs a side note, the first N.A. Miss America was on, from New Mexico....now we need one to run for Pres.
828362
You are right, the theory being; once they begin to pick sides their allegiance to the commander in chief might be altered or diminished.\n\nBut the military can't win that fight due to the freedom of choice thing we have going on.\n\nHow a soldier feels politically, is a good question. When I was a soldier, I would have based my feelings on the way I was fed that day. Or perhaps, how rude my platoon leader was!
770238
I was accepted to every college I applied.  I had the financial means to go to college right out of high school, but I chose to enlist instead.  I met smarter people in the army than I did in college (after my enlistment).
679846
ever since military service became voluntary, the number of upper middle class (and higher) children serving has declined to just about zero.  this is because (a) they typically have more options in terms of jobs and so don't have to use the military as a way to get training/education/employment and (b) because no matter how patriotic they may claim to be, they don't really want to die for their country.  this disconnect is a serious issue as our government continues to evolve, since it is much easier for our elected officials to promote war as a solution to solving the problems of the US since they have zero experience with true warfare and because they have no one who will be directly impacted by the fighting.  it's the equivalent of monday morning quarterbacking.  either military service needs to be mandatory for everybody (reinstating a draft for example) or military service needs to be a requirement for election to certain posts (senators and presidents at least).  there's a motto from the movie Starship Troopers - "Service Means Citizenship" where the most common way for a person to earn citizenship and the right to vote/reproduce was through military service.  Not a bad idea.
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I don't understand your question so I am gonna stab at an answer. People join the Army and other military groups for various reasons. I can bet you none signed up 4-5 years ago with the intention of going to Iraq. \n\nIraq happens to be the conflict we are fighting now. We have not had a conflict since the first Gulf war.\n\nNow the reason a lot of young men and women sign up for the Army is because there is a GI bill for education that they want to take advantage of. Some sign up because there is a career field they want to get into, but don't have the experience or schooling to get into it. \n\nSay a person wanted to be a policeman out of high school. What city would hire this individual, no experience and too young?  Probably none, if this individual did not have enough money to go to college take the course necessary to become a policeman, what better place to go than the Army to become a military Policeman, now while this person is training to become a military policeman they are getting paid, have a place to stay, get three meals a day and free medical care. Where else could you get all this training and the benefits I have named for a 3 year commitment?\n\nNow let's be real if there is a combat confict that break out, this individual will be required to go and could not get out of his/her obligation. \n\nOnce the commitment is up, now this person has 3 years of experience of doing actual police work plus military police school, now what city would hire him/her? Most any would. They might be required to attend the Police Academy of the city they want to work with, but what a difference now than showing up our of high school.\n\nThe same can be said of a person that wanted to attend college. Suppose they had no money to attend college and did not want to go through the junior college route. They could spend 3 years in the Army accumulate money through their GI bill and after they got out have enough money to attend college, if they had to workl to supplement their GI bill money they would have learned a trade in the Army so they could get a job while attending college.\n\nSo as you can see there are many reasons for joining the Army, I have touched on just two. Not to say they would be a lot more mature and perhaps would not ask questions such as this.\n\nYou might not want to have anything to do with the military or Army, but there are many that see this as a means to getting into a career or getting a college education.  Just remember, presently you are not required to enlist in the Army as we don't have a draft now. If you are 18 you must register, but there is no draft. I think America should have a draft.\n\nI think travel is great, you have a few weeks off called leave and since you are already in Iraq, why not travel to India or some other country nearby so you can have a taste of another culture. There are advantages to be in an overseas area, even if there is combat going on. \n\nI hope this has been of some help to you, good luck
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I was in the navy and had a great job offer lined up to start working for a consulting firm.  On the day of my advancement in rank to E-6 I showed up to the ceremony in civilian clothes, told them to give it to someone that needed to stay in the navy to make a living, went down to HR, signed my terminal leave papers then papered my old office with photoshopped pictures of various crazy gay porn pictures with my bosses heads photoshopped over the actors heads.  Oddly enough I ended back up at that command a year later to work on one of their ERP projects as a civilian consultant and all the lowly people there treated me like a god because evidently word of my prank spread around the whole command and now that I was on the Project Management team (not to mention a civilian) there was nothing my old bosses could do to get retribution.
218633
Its a deal with the devil, but your local national guard recruiters will have carreer evaluation tests. Not just the armed services apptitude test, but a civilian test too.
564161
Do you know i am so overjoyed that my answers to your questions will never be picked for best as they would actually be an insult. \nI much rather have my say about your questions for two points. \nBut anyway on with the answer.\nI could not see the day that the Military would drop its standards for recruiting in to-days modern Military. \nIf anything i would personally say its Become a lot Higher, The world advances in technology and so does the Military. I can not comment on the Mt,Clemens recruiting. \nLower recruiting figours could also have some thing to do with the Higher Standards for which the Military are setting nowadays. \nThat seems to show a lower recruiting figour than it should. \nI don't think the recruiters would get away with lie-ing to a new recruit. \nWell anyone with a bit of common sense knows that when you join the Military you would have no choice in where YOU would like to go and live, or If you would end up in a nice easy job using Computers. \nYour last part of your question is based on your Original Terrorist Propaganda questions you have asked before. \nso it is not worthy of an answer.\nfrom me.
986912
Yes they frigging well have! They blow things out of all proportion and now everyone is against it because troops are being killed. When we sign up we know that we are at risk of being mobilised to warzones and the consequences this can bring. I am only in the Territorial Army (reservists) and if my time comes to serve Queen and Country over in Iraq i will.
828325
There have been so many changes in the government--I don't feel the military is effected at all.  I'm not in the military but have been a dependent for the past 20 years (daughter and wife).  My father has disliked several people who have run our country and its department of defense.  Did that make him go into early retirement?  No.  I've notice the people I know (not all) who are in the military don't really care about officials.  Sure, they vote but in the end they have sworn to be a part of the military.  Despite who is "in charge" they will continue doing their job.  I also believe the benefits will continue to convince people to join because it seems that's all people care about these days.  This is why I do not feel it will effect the military.
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Well, Look at the recruitment #'s early in the conflicts. When patriotism was High. Many signed up. which was great. I was already in the Us Navy. 5th Generation Sailor. I believe the Media has Hyped up the Negatives of War so much and bashed the policy and the reasons. Spun and twisted the minor issues into Major issues. In this chaos, what has in sued is the fighting age American has lost the will to defend the country. \n\nBlaming Politics, Blaming everyone but their self. Typical American "Patriotism" (Why fight for something I do not Believe in). \n\nEven in WW2, the Masses that signed up to fight Happened quickly and rapidly after Pearl Harbor. And at that time our Army was small before the recruitment. You do know that at the Battle of Iwo Jima...One of 2 shown at theaters across America cause a 70% decrease in recruitment after it aired. \n\nWar is Heroic and Glorious in Theory. The Banter of Napoleon riding into the Berlin 1809, Caesar returning to Rome in Triumph, etc. etc. All of this had one thing in Common War was mysterious and the MEN that fought it were Heros.\n\nIn today's digital age. With Media coverage and such. War is a Hard pill to swallow. Knowing you might die, by watching it on the news. \n\nThanks
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Many people have joined for educational benefits. They found out 5 years ago that this time the gamble wasn't such a good deal. From what/who I have seen, we are getting more enlistees due to "Patriotic Duty" than we are for "bennies".\nIn other words, paying for college has become secondary.
891265
It's always changing.  You'd have to go speak to a recruiter to find out.
955877
The libs are right - he avoided the draft.  They just neglect to mention that he avoided the draft by joining the military voluntarily.  This also explains their disdain for our current troops - they are the same kind of draft dodgers.
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I don't keep numbers of this sort, but I do read the newspaper, daily.  Two days ago, the army indicated that it had surpassed it's last recruiting quota.  All of the other services have had no trouble meeting quota.  The army has always had the biggest challenge because of it's size,  I believe the army may have relaxed some of its criteria for recruitment.  This certainly would have helped it to achieve its numbers.  No, this isn't a guess, unless the newspapers are getting bad info.