If Jesus is the Jewish Messiah than why don't his followers also fallow Torah as he did?
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The original disciples & apostles were Torah-observant. Paul had a revelation, but he still participated in animal sacrifice in the Temple (Acts 21:23-26) and he professed to believe the same Jewish faith of his fathers, including the Law & the Prophets (Acts 24:14-16).\n\nHeretics were busy in the 1st century. By the 4th century, lifelong pagan Roman Emperor Constantine decreed that all in the empire must desecrate the Sabbath and all religions must worship on Sunday, "the venerable day of the sun god," according to his proclamation. His puppet Pope rubber-stamped the apostasy by claiming the authority & power to change God's Law. The Reformation was a failure (the mainline Protestant & non-denominational churches maintain the vain pagan holiday traditions).\n\nFaithful believers are still Torah-observant. God is unchanging, His Law is unchanging, His will for His people is unchanging,... Yeshua ("God's Salvation"), the Torah-observant Messiah said: "Follow Me."
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Now can anyone seem to think of a reason why someone named ""shkwajid"" would want to stir people up against the Jews?\n\nThe Jews did not kill Jesus, even according to the Christian's New Testament itself.\n\nIn Matthew 27:2, Jesus had to be given over to the authorities, Rome, to be tried by the Governor of Rome, Pontius Pilate. 64 years before Jesus was born, the Jews had lost the land of Israel to Roman rule. The Jews had no power, no authority, to put anyone to death. Jesus was crucified. The Jewish way to give the death penalty was through stoning, as everyone knows. Crucifixion was a Roman form of execution, and they reserved it only for those who were seen as trying to overthrow the Roman government.\n\nAccording to Matthew 27:37, the sign placed by the Romans over Jesus's head read, "Jesus Christ King of the Jews." The text of Matthew in 27:37 calls this sign, "the accusation." In other words, the crime for which Jesus was crucified was for being, or having the pretense to be, the king of the Jews, INSTEAD of the Roman emperor, and this is according to the Christian's own New Testament! (see also Matthew 27:27-29)\n\nSo why does the Christian New Testament make it appear that the Jews wanted Jesus dead? Simply because by the time that the New Testament stories about Jesus (the Gospels) were being written, from 60 C.E. onward, the Jews were in open rebellion against Rome. The Early Christians did not want to be identified with the Jews, and they did not want Rome to think that Christians worshipped a man who was crucified by the Romans. So they wrote their New Testament so as to absolve the Romans from the responsibility of putting Jesus to death. This went so far as to put words in the mouth of "the Jews," that said "the Jews" accepted responsibility for Jesus's death, and that the guilt for it would be on their childrens' heads forever! (Matthew 27:25).\n\nOf course, this will not stop believing Christians from taking the New Testament at its word, and continuing to blame the Jews for Jesus's death.\n\nBUT, how then can we Jews respond to such a question, "Did the Jews kill Jesus?"\n\nThe very question itself makes us respond with our own collection of questions:\n\nWho are "the Jews" referred to in the question? Are they all Jews forever and ever? This would mean that if the people outside of the Huntsville, Texas, prison who cried FOR the death of Karla Faye Tucker (convicted of murdering her own kids i believe),were of Scottish origins, for example, then from now on all Scottish peoples, regardless of where they were at the time she was given the death penalty are guilty, forever, for her death?Remember that the people outside of the prison were not the ones, and could not have been the ones, who actually injected her with the fatal poisons. As a matter of fact, the vast majority of Jews in the world at the time of Jesus did not live in Israel, and would not have heard about any event taking place there for months after the event. News traveled so much slower then.\n\nLets pretend that "the Jews" back then really did kill Jesus (which they did not!). Since when are the children responsible, or culpable, for the sins of their parents? This very idea is UnBiblical! In Deuteronomy 24:16 it specifically states, "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin." Furthermore, in Ezekiel 18:20 it states, "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him." So the very idea that if Jews killed Jesus, which they did not, then the Jewish People forever is responsible for that sin is b
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I think that whoever is to be blamed, it makes no difference, because Jesus HAD to die somehow in order for everyone to be saved.  If Jesus didn't die, we would all be condemned to Hell.  It so happens that the Jews did it.  Perhaps they did not get the brunt of the blame.  But does it matter?\n\nTo some of the above posters, yes, there have been many injustices that have occurred at the hands of Christians as well as many other religious folks.  But that does not change the basic fact that Jesus died for our sins and that we are human.  We make mistakes.  But God does not make mistakes.  Everything happens for a reason.  And God knows infinitely more than you or I, whether you like it or not, whether you believe it or not.\n\nTo another poster--Heron By The Sea...your logic is good but some of your facts are wrong.  Yes, Rome did control the land where the Jews lived.  But they knew little about Jesus.  They were the most powerful civilization in the world...and do you really think they feared anyone?  Much less one man (Jesus) and his movement that polarized Jews of His day?  I don't think they really gave much of a d@mn about Jesus, OR the Jews, for that matter.  Pilate basically did not care anything about the trial until the Sanhedrin and the Pharisees said that Jesus claimed to be "King of the Jews."  Once he heard that, if Jesus was really a threat to Rome, do you think he would offer to release Jesus?  I don't think he would.  At that point, the Jews wanted Barabbas released.  So yes, it was the JEWS who wanted Jesus dead.\n\nSecondly, the Bible was NOT altered by Rome or Romans.  The Bible is a collection of books that were selected for the truth and sincerity and accuracy of the faith.  Yes through time there are many different translations today, but I would say the major translations have not been altered to the point where such central ideas have been warped and distorted beyond their original meaning and truth.  I see that you are a religious studies major, so I am not going to fully dismiss everything you say, but based on our Christian faith, God would not allow such things to be distorted (that's where the Holy Spirit comes in).
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The Jewish concept of Messiah is one who brings freedom to the Jewish people and, usually also peace to the land of Israel. Moses, Cyrus the Persian, etc. were all Messiahs. \n\nIt's not an afterlife issue. Jews don't believe in Hell. Jews believe that dutiful following of G-d's Law results in a clear conscience at death, which results in ease in being in G-d's presence. Having a guilty conscience results in the person's spirit not being able to "face" G-d... it is the person, and not G-d, who defines one's afterlife experience. This is "deep," "subconscious" awareness of one's righteousness and/or sin, not some sort of "wish away the bad stuff" deal.  Why would you want the death of someone else (e.g. Jesus) on your soul? Having another human being "die" to take away the guilt of your own misdeeds makes no sense from the Jewish point of view. Actually any human sacrifice is clearly forbidden by the redemption of Issac. One does Mitzvah (prayer, charity, good works) to balance errors that you couldn't directly fix. If one is motivated by caring and good works, then the errors you make don't weigh too heavily on your soul, especially if you consciously seek to make things right. When the Temple existed, Temple sacrifice was a Mitzvah. It wasn't the actual food being sacrificed, but the willingness to give to the community through especially defined rules (an additional opportunity to follow Law), that cleansed the soul.\n\nWhen Jesus did not drive out the Romans and bring Israel into independence and peace, those Jews who were initially following him realized that he was not a Messiah.\n\nChristianity is actually Greco-Roman "dying god as bringer of life" cycle mythology tacked shakily onto Hebrew scripture so that Paul could start his own religous following with a Jew in the role of the dying spring god. When Rome took on Paul's concept in the 400's, they did so because they needed a religion based on submission to authority for their people, to try to hold a dying empire together.  To discourage people looking too closely at the actual concepts in the original Hebrew scripture and possibly converting fully to Judaism and away from Christianity, they modified scriptures and preached heavily to make Jews into evil servants of the ancient pagan gods (devils) in the minds of their followers, and only referred to Jewish scripture line by line, pulled out without historical and full-text (original text, not the modified stuff) context, to try to prove Jesus' divinity.
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Jews were expecting a King, a man of great wealth to come.  When Jesus came, born as a poor human carpenter son, they didn't except him as the messiah.  Jews today are still waiting for the Messiah to come.  Thats whats taught to them. It was hard for them in the old testament to believe in something they couldn't see or touch.  That is why God sent his son down.  Jesus is God in human form.  There is only on God, just in three seperate forms.  God, Jesus and the Holy spirit.
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Not true.   The Jewish religion believes that Jesus Christ was a great prophet, but not the Son of God.  The Bible says otherwise.
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Jews were not responsible for the death of Jesus, regardless of what Mel Gibson thinks.\n\nJews did not accept Jesus as the messiah because he did not fulfill the prophecies about the messiah. Christianity claims Jesus will finish the prophecies in his second coming, but according to Judaism the messiah will not die before all the prophecies are realized.
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Jesus was basically and orthodox Jew from the West Bank. \n\nHe failed in trying to get a following during his lifetime -- only wound up with 12 country bumpkins from the Galilee. \n\nIt wasn't until centuries later that the religion of Christianity came unto its own, based not so much on what Jesus did/said, but on what Paul taught. \n\nThe teaching of Christianity such as the tripartite godhead, God as a man, the virgin birth, etc. are anathema to Judaism.
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Depends on your and their definition of the term Christian? Everyone who calls themselves a Christian is not  Christ’s disciple. But from a Biblical perspective, I would think that  Messiah would have been more likely to support one of the many Israeli insurgent rag tag armies, like the one that finally rose up against the emperor in 70 ad and resulted in the destruction of Jerusalem and the loss of their country, than that of the occupying Roman Army. As an interesting aside, some  scholars believe that Barabbus, the man who was released  by Pilate, instead of Messiah by the vote of the people, was  a leader of  such a group of anti- Roman insurrectionist, and not just a common criminal.  That the Messiah supported  neither worldly army or supported any earthy kingdom and preached against violence, would cause you to think these facts alone would give the modern right wing, patriotic, Bush supporting,  Jingoistic American Christians a clue, but they remain clueless and will till the Anti-Christ deceives them fully.
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That's what he said, and, if you think about it, it is absolutly true.  In the beginning Jesus led a sect of Jews.  Then the gentliles who began to follow Jesus didn't like the Jewish regulations, so, they split off.  That began a long history of the  followers of Jesus splitting over and over again, often over things Jesus said nothing at all about.
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Jews do not believe that Jesus was the G-d of son. He was just one of the false prophet and troublemakers in our history that caused us lots of hardship. He was a Heretic and turned his back on his fellow Jews and G-d - he did not follow the laws of the Torah. \n\nYou can call Jesus whatever you want - he can be your messiah/boyfriend/G-d or whatever - I really don't care. We try not to think about him and don't associate ourselves with that traitor. But once again, I respect what you believe and - I just don't see how you don't understand our point of view.\n\nThe reason why Jews have so many rules is because G-d gave the Torah to the Jews (when they were in the desert - on Mount Sinai). Therefore only the Jews have to listen to its laws. They are many laws and they are strict but they become a way of life. Actually they define our lives and set our goal in life. \n\nI don't see how anyone can live without the guiding hand of the Torah.
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They have all missed the boat, here.\n\nThe Jews saw Jesus as a heretic who CLAIMED to be the Son of the living God.  He was a madman who equaled himself to God, and for that he was made to suffer and die.\n\nOf course, the difference here is that Jesus was right.\n\nTo Christianity, Jesus is the God-man, who came into the world to free us from sin.\nTo Judaism, Jesus was a misguided heretic who paid dearly for his false teachings.
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It wasn't until many years after the death of Jesus that the Jews who followed Jesus broke away from Judaism, and it wasn't until the 4th century and the development of the Nicene Creed that most Christians came to believe in the Trinity.\n\nThere are many theories as to why Christians broke away from Judaism.  One of them is that they couldn't find converts among Jews and had to branch out to Romans and other cultures in the area.  It's doubtful they could find anyone at all who was willing to be circumcised in order to become a follower of Jesus -- well, maybe they decided to renege on that first Covenant (Testament) with God and abolish circumcisions altogether!\n\nAnother theory as to why they broke away from Judaism is because Jews followed many leaders they believed to be the messiah, but when the leader died without having accomplished his sole purpose, he was acknowleged as being a false messiah.\n\n"...they shall beat their swords into plowshares,\nand their spears into pruning hooks;\nnation shall not lift up sword against nation,\nneither shall they learn war anymore." (Micah 4:3)\n\nMore about the messiah can be found here:\nwww.jewsforjudaism.org\n.
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There were quite a few Jewish sects in that part of the world around that time. Many of them were messianic sects, such as the Essenes - some of which had turned from traditional Judaism. In this period in history it was not uncommon to hear tales that this person or that person was the promised Messiah. Christianity was a sect that became firmly established by going cosmopolitan - after Paul promoted it in Italy and Greece and blended it with their mythology of virgin birth, the hierarchy of deities, and a fiery Hades place of punishment, etc., none of which had any connection to Jesus's religion (Judaism).
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http://www.jewsforjesus.org/\nHere is a website that may answer your questions.\n\nBut I am Jewish and the term Jews for Jesus is a contradiction in terms,,,,,,Jews don't believe that Jesus is the savior, just that he is a man who is Jewish.  We call them Christians.
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Well, I guess it would all depend.\n\nIslam was founded after Christianity, so that religion actually has a firm, somewhat uniform stance on Jesus. He is honored as a prophet.\n\nChristianity is younger than Judaism and could be considered almost a kind of Jewish heresy because it is, in part, based on Jewish scripture and claims to be the plan of the Jewish G-d for the salvation of the world through the prophesied Messiah. \n\nMany horrible things have been done to Jews in the name of Christ, so a really negative opinion of him is not uncommon and is certainly understandable. There are Jews who see Jesus as a good man and teacher whose followers made false claims about after his death. There are Jews who believe anything in between those two extremes or even that there never was such a person.\n\nSo I guess between the two, Judaism could be thought to be more insulting, but that is only on a purely theoretical basis. In reality, views vary wildly. Actions even more so.
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sacrifices are not neccesary for the temple is gone for now (the real messiah will see it rebuilt) and jews follow the 613 laws of torah the best that they can. Yes the laws of the torah (the old testiment is christian, not jewish) the tanakh is jewish, correct, and unchanged are still aplicable to all jews.