How many of you are against animal testing?
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My vote is for testing on humans, especially testing on those jerks who are coming up with these stupid products.
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Who doesn't contribute to society -- the activists or the animals?\n\nDid you know that animal abuse laws were in place prior to laws prohibiting the abuse of children?  Anti child abuse laws were actually derived from animal abuse laws.  So there's something to be said for those who protect.\n\nThere was a story in my local paper today.  A teacher had brought in a tortoise as a class pet.  Over the holiday weekend, vandals came in and bludgeoned the pet for no reason.  Shouldn't someone stand up for the animal and those who loved it?\n\nAs for the second part of your question posted in additional details . . . the poor starving person already has a voice.  The animals do not.  How many humans realize that they're made of meat too?  Good thing animals don't have the same twisted disregard for our lives as we tend to have over theirs.
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That right has always been forfeited, when have we ever legally had the choice to die? Our pets do, but we do not. Its just the law. It doesnt stop anyone from doing it though, so what does it really matter. Love Heidi
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I don't know.  \n\nIt appears that most research these days can be done without the use of animal testing; but it also appears that sometimes it's still necessary.  I'm not a medical researcher so I don't know, but I hope that no ethical researcher would use animals for testing unless there was no other way to learn what s/he needs to know.\n\nAnd finally:  What wouldn't you do -- or consent to have done -- to save your life, or the life of someone you love?
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The Humane Society and the SPCA are more in line with my thinking. They stress reverence for living things, and having a relationship based on compassion between people and animals, without the smug, selfrightousness present in many PETA members.
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Many people both Vegetarians and Non-Vegetarians avoid products that have been tested on animals.Animal rights groups try to expose such companies.Such as People for Ethical treatment of animals.Animal testing is extremely cruel and uneccessary.
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i AM ALL FOR THE ETHICAL TREATMENT OF ANIMALS, BUT I EAT MEAT.  Personally I feel that how the meat was produced (ie how the animal lived its life) is a bigger issue.  Factory farming in my view is unnatural and cruel. Chickens and pigs seem to be the worst affected (beef in the U.S ), the are intensively reared in cramped conditions. For this reason I only eat meat from known sources, which is free range .  I avoid eggs from battery hens because they are kept in a cage for their entire lives , and the eggs don't compare to good freerange egggs the difference is unbeleivable. Luckily beef is not intenseviley farmed in my area and very good quality.  Look up groups like 'compassion in world farming for more' info
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DO NOT GO TO PETA. DO NOT SUPPORT PETA! \n\nPEOPLE FOR T HE ETHICAL TREATMENT OF ANIMALS(PETA) KILL 2/3 OF  THE ANIMALS THEY 'LIBERATE'!!!
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For those of you that do not consider testing on animals is necessary, please contact me and I will put your names forward for the next round of clinical tests.\n\nYou can choose from Anthrax, Botulism, Aids, Lassa Fever, Ebola virus, and many others.\n\nStill interested?
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Well if we don't test on animals then we won't find out that our new drugs are harmful until humans start dying.\n\nThe death of a thousand non-sentient animals is worth it if one human life is saved.  Now consider that without animal testing thousands of humans would be dying that otherwise would live and it seems pretty clear that the terrorists at SHAC, et. al. need to be opposed.
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2.  Although I find it ironic that one wouldn't field dress the PETA rep first.\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \nand talk about a mess!  Millet and barley EVERYWHERE!
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I would stop all animal suffering from humans.  They are so innocent and we are greedy.  Because of our Greed others suffer.\n\nThere is no BALANCE by torturing animals for our own aesthetics.
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At one point, I was an ovo-vegan (the only animal product I ate was free-range eggs), and I still eat a mostly vegetarian diet now.  I am also a pro-life activist and do sidewalk counseling outside abortions mills.  I have a sidewalk counseling friend who is a total vegan.  \n\nHowever, I would agree that MOST vegans/vegetarians tend to be pro-aborts.  I think that if those with open minds would just take some time to learn about pain perception in the unborn, they may reconsider their position.  I'm afraid that azzparagus's contention that abortions are "humane" is completely false.  The babies are not given anethesia as they are suctioned apart, ripped apart, or burned to death, regardless of where or how the abortions are committed.  An ultrasound of a first trimester abortion shows the unborn baby struggling violently in an effort to escape the abortionist's instrument, while her hearbeat doubles and her mouth opens wide.  \n\nFor information on prenatal pain perception, see:\n\nhttp://www.advocatesfortheinnocent.com/fetalpain.html\n\nFor well-documented information on all aspects of abortion, see http://Abort73.com\n\nAnd I just found this list of pro-life, pro-animal rights groups:\n\nhttp://www.gargaro.com/vegan.html
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Im a vegetarian and a chemist, and your absolutely right you are killing in both cases. Its not that I am entirely against eating animals, its that I am against our farming system. Its a really deep issue, if you want more information message me but for now I think this cartoon (link below) will give you the basics into understanding the lies behind how we get our meat. There are many angles to this issue. As far as health goes it has been shown that 90% of heart problems are related to over meat consumption. Its been my conclusions that meat eating can be done right by ethical private farming but this is not the case. Animals are tortured, and worse for you... they are injected with not so good things and grown in their own feces - increasing chances of illness for you. Ever since I became vegetarian I have felt energetic, and I have never been sick! \n\nIts also been hypothosized by some vegetarians that meat eating is destroying the world and actually contributing to food shortages. Its a complex issue, but suffice it to say that raising a cow takes much more energy, money, land, and other resources than growing equal levels of nutrition in plant life. The waste generated by animals is large.\n\n    So to summarize,\n \n     - some feel that it is unethical to eat animals, granted. \n\n     - But just because you dont agree with that doesnt mean that there is not good reason to be vegetarian for the sake of the enviornment, economy, your health, the torture of animals, .... I can go on forever.\n\nI hope this helps, and I only wrote this to educate you. My father almost died from his over meat consumption. And its an atrocity what this is doing to the world. You should check out the PETA website - very educational and reason based nowadays.\n\nhttp://www.themeatrix.com/
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None. I like animals. Comparing Bush to animals is just an insult to animals!
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Yes. You may or may not have heard about a drugs trial in the UK recently in which 6 people where given a new drug, and had very severe reactions to it, and two of them nearly died. Many people have put this forward as a reason to abandon animal testing since the drug was tested on animals first and showed no sign of the reaction. However i must say that the drug trial worked perfectly, despite the unfortunate outcome. There are many drugs that don't make it to phase one human trials because of bad reactions in animals. Mice have a similar immune system to ours, and so make them a good model animal to test.\n\nIn studies, animals are very useful. Many genes and proteins are very highly conserved amoungst humans and animals. To effectively study what these genes do, in a bid to find new ways to treat illnesses, it is necessary to mutate the gene in the animals. So unless any humans wish to volunteer, it is nescesary to use aniumals. Oh and I do wish animal rights protestors who attack medical research institutes would volunteer.
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I agree. I believe that animals are equal to people and they should be treated as such. I'm not a vegitarian or anything, but I still think other creatures deserve their rights. After all, humans are animals too. In fact, I don't consider the animals in my family as pets, I think of them as my brothers/sisters. It is unfair to animals and pets, but humans tend to think they're the dominant species.