Can people having Tax  IDs but without SSN#s file for Tax refunds?
348751
I bet there are a lot of illegal aliens now using it to be able to work, the reason is simple, when an employer try to pay taxes based on the income this people make the IRS will accept the money , I think they came up with this when the goberment did not allow people to obtain a social security number, many year ago you were allowed to obtain one but it was not valid for employment,. yes it is true that this number is meant for investor or people who can not get a social security card but believe me I know people who use it the the way I describe above.
531532
You can contact the business directly to find out the EIN (Employer Identification Number) but if you worked for a one-person business (example, Plumbing Contractor) they may use their SSN instead of an EIN.  The employer needs to know so they can correct their records, and if they are committing fraud it should be brought to the attention of the unemployment office.
188337
There are internet websites to verify SSNs. Some require additional info beyond the SSN and/or fees.
1098690
get one from the IRS.  use form SS-4\n\nhere's some info from their site:\n\nTopic 755 - Employer Identification Number (EIN) – How to Apply\n\nGenerally, an employer is a person or organization for whom a worker performs services as an employee. As an employer, you are required to withhold and report employment taxes. To file the various employment tax returns, you need a Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN). The TIN is an Employer Identification Number (EIN). However, a sole proprietor may use his or her social security number as the TIN if the business has no employees and is not required to file excise, employment, alcohol, tobacco, or firearms returns. A sole proprietorship is the only type of business that may use a social security number as its TIN. \n\nAn entity is considered to be a sole proprietorship for Federal tax purposes even if an individual operates his or her business through a domestic Limited Liability Company (LLC) and does not elect for that LLC to be taxed as a corporation using Form 8832 (PDF), Entity Classification Election. In such a case, the LLC is disregarded for Federal tax purposes. Generally, the disregarded LLC should not request its own EIN. \n\nYou may obtain an EIN by completing Form SS-4 (PDF), Application For Employer Identification Number. Mail or fax it in for processing. The instructions for Form SS-4 provide both IRS service center addresses and phone or fax numbers. By mailing the completed Form SS-4 to the appropriate service center, you can obtain an EIN within 4 to 5 weeks. Using Fax-Tin, you can obtain the EIN by fax within 4 working days. \n\nYou may also obtain an EIN immediately by telephone 5 days a week, Monday through Friday from 7:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m., by calling IRS at (800) 829–4933. Another method of obtaining an EIN is to utilize the Internet-based Form SS-4 at www.irs.gov. Internet applications are not allowed for all types of entities. Please refer to the Internet application for these exclusions. \n\nIf you already have an EIN and the organization or ownership of your business changes, you may need to apply for a new number. Some of the circumstances under which a new number is required are as follows: \n\nAn existing business is purchased or inherited by an individual who will operate it as a sole proprietorship, unless the new owner already has an EIN, \nA sole proprietorship changes to a partnership, \nA partnership changes to a sole proprietorship, \nA corporation changes to a partnership or a sole proprietorship; or \nAn individual owner dies, and the estate takes over the business. \n\nNote: This list is not all-inclusive. \n\nFor more information, refer to Publication 1635 (PDF), Understanding Your EIN. If you prefer, you may call 1–800–829–4933 for more information.
227528
It is dependent if you incorporate or not. I know many who do not and just use their social security number.
132555
Look at any of your previous annual or quarterly tax returns. anything you receive from IRS or state taxing agency should have this number prominently displayed. if you are a sole proprietorship or you are a new business, it most likely is your SSN
890573
You should not be able to find the SSN  but if you are questioning this persons business ethics you can always report them to IRS giving all the information you have.  You may not get any personal satisfaction but can cause them grief.
217548
If you mean after you gave it to them NEVER.  All personal information should be confidential.  The only time they will give it out is collect a debt.  Some companies sell your name and address to companies for spam, junk mail or direct mailings specifially for people that fit certain profiles.  Nothing justifies SSN except collections.
1065389
There are quite a few people who work for UCLA, the Post Office and several other organizations who are not required to have social security numbers,because their employers carry their own reirement fund..  I don't know how that works for paying taxes and opening bank accounts; but. it's true they don't have ssa#'s.\n\n  Issuing sa#'s to babies is a fairly recent development (within the last 20-25 years).  I think the people who don't have ssa#'s started working for an exempted company before they applied for a card.  But, yes, they're perfectly legal.  Remember, a social security card was never intended to be a form of identification for anything but retirement.  I don't even think it's legal to require that a person produce a social security card as a form of I.D.
158536
No.  I have a social security number and I'm not a US citizen -- but I am a permanent resident (aka "green card").  I've also been paying social security taxes for about thirty years, and I'll be able to collect social security when I retire.\n\nIf I remember correctly, I got one as soon as I started paying taxes, which was while I was a graduate student.\n\nYou can also get a "taxpayer number" which is in the same format but is ONLY for paying taxes and associated activities -- for example, you need one to open a bank account, in case you earn interest.  My brother has one of those and he lives in Sydney.
757683
Of course you can have a EIN# without having employees, but why? That is a question that the IRS asks. They advise that, unless you have a specific reason or requirement to have the number, you should not apply for one. As far as them "canceling" one for lack of use: in sixteen years as a tax professional, dealing almost exclusively with small business, I have never saw or even heard of such a thing. I have been presented letters received by clients from the IRS that related to EIN# that have not been in use for 20 years. A little information to chew on: The odds of having your tax return audited GREATLY increase when you have a Schedule C included in the package. If you have a viable business, Incorporating makes sense in many ways.
185916
I would call the social security office at 1800 772 1213 or on the web at www.ssa.gov/ let them know that you need a replacement SSA1099. you should be able to file your taxes without the form as long as you have the numbers off of it. If you do that make sure that they send you a copy and that you keep it with your records.
442535
No, you won't need a tax ID number for the trust. It will carry the ID of the person who set up the trust (trustee usually).\nIf the trust will be generating income by, for example, receiving rental income, it might need one.\n\nBottom line:  see an estate attorney.
487362
well, I think this goes to two different things...\nA. multiple people may use one SS# \nB. the businesses may not be operating legally and paying taxes
206107
Unfortunately not, you have to fill out a form and bring identification documents to your local SS office.
549350
i think thats the form to apply for a tax id (if you dont have ssn or something)
591569
No, to signup for these services people don't need to give this type of info out, and there's no way the companies would ever give out that type of info.  If there is a legal dispute you can file a civil suit and suponea Yahoo or Skype for the identify but that's the only way.