War in Iraq.. sick of it pull the troops back or for it and lets not let be another vietmam?
344843
If we quit now, we'll just be back there in 10 years after a terrorist camp that was operating there attacked the US in a brutal way.  \n\nThe US pulling out of Somolia in the 90's was the trigger which made Osama Bin Laden plan for 9/11 and think it would be successful in destroying the US.  \n\n"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half."\n-Sir Winston Churchill\n\n"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, support any foe, to ensure the survival and the success of Liberty."\n\nJohn F. Kennedy,
322636
Just pull the troups out and let them come home, they have done their job. Iraq will have a civil war regardless if we stay or not so why not just let them have at it and not lose anymore American lives.
793952
It didn't do us any good in Vietnam, which was an intervention in a civil war and was also a very unpopular war at home. In Iraq, the same two conditions still prevail. To reinstate the draft would only cause an escalation of this brutal and unnecessary aggression by drastically increasing troop levels and fueling anti-American sentiment. A draft is not the answer, ending American involvement in the Iraqi civil war would serve  this country far better than forcing young Americans to shed their blood in a foreign land where they are not wanted.
338232
Partner, according to your name you are or were a Seabee with the Navy?  If you served in Nam as I did than you know that Iraq is another Vietnam.  A "war" concocted by inept politicians whose only goal is to become more powerful at the expense of the lives of young men and women.  They declare their intentions and then when proven wrong they will not back down and continue this folly, we do not seem to learn from our mistakes.  Iraq is not turning into the next Vietnam it is the next Vietnam and in another 8 to 10 years we will be asking is _______ the next Iraq??\n\nYou probably have seen the quote that the definition of insanity is to repeat the same action and expect a different result, well that is what we are doing in Iraq.\n\nI certainly hope you and many others agree with me and will use the power of the vote to help clean up this country.
1149483
I'm sure somebody used em to describe Vietnam.   I think, though, that the issue they're talking about is our responsibility to provide stability in government. The removal of Saddam created a very real power vaccume in Iraq. (question of right/wrong in doing so aside) Simply leaving after getting Saddam, would have drawn even more condemnation from the world. The world would  be screamin at us for NOT doing something to help them. As it is, they're screaming at us FOR doing somehthing. Whether or not what we're doing is effective, is another story.
710452
Lost cause? I think so. Due to the political pressure back here in the States the job was never going to get done the way it should have been. \n\nPull out? I am curious about that. I'm wondering how we would pull our troops out in such a way as to not make the ones temporarilly left behind more vulnerable since Iraq is so unstable.. Obviously they can't all leave at the same time. \n\nI wonder how those who just want them out of Iraq lock, stock and barrel would deal with that situation. It seems like it is all or nothing. Stay there or leave. Who is going to point to which soldier and say you get to go home immediately and you can't. You get to leave in a month from now but in the meantime don't get killed. \n\nIf we care soo much for all of our troops wellbeing how is leaving prematurely going to give the utmost protection to all of them. No one here at Yahoo answers who just wants the troops out addresses what the consequences are to those left behind waiting for their turn to leave.\n\nDie in vain? I would say to those who lost a loved one in Iraq before the job is done, yes. To all of those who are just anti-war or anti-Bush, probably not. I don't think they will give it a second thought. The soldiers who have fought and died in Iraq are props to be used politically any way they can. If they truly cared then they would be taking into consideration how to get *all* the troops home safely moreso then just constantly saying get them out without even realizing to do so with the conditions being what they are in Iraq that a higher percentage of men and women will die during the transition.
478474
I say make the hard choices or bring troops back. What do I mean don't p ussy foot around when your attacked hit back and hit back hard. I don't care if your in a mosque if you fire on me I'm coming after you. I am a Canadian that served in the U.S Army infantry and was in Iraq. My wife was in Iraq as well in intelligence. This war is bull crap. Everyone knows it. But the U.S has f ucked this up so bad that now we have to stay and die for the mistakes of the intelligence community. Everyone that thinks Iraq is a good idea has no idea what being on the ground in a hostile country is all about. Cowards all. 80 percent of U.S falls in this category. War is a great idea when your P ussy a ss doesn't have to fight in it. Looks great from a 60 inch screen try seeing it from a hasty V. Not to mention this isn't a war its 100,000 cannon fodder sitting in the desert so Kellogg brown and root can make money. If you don't bring the troops home or move them to safer place when the Iran war comes troops in Iraq will be killed in droves. All those that wish to stay the course in Iraq your local recruiter would like to chat with you. Why don't you back up your words with action P ussies.
760135
I feel like everyone else, it is senseless keeping our boys out there.  My brother was in Iraq for a while and not a day went by that the whole family did not feel sick with worry about him.  He's heading off to Afghanistan soon and that will be just as bad.\n\nOn the other hand, we started this war along with Dubya and it is unfair to the Iraqi people if we just storm in, turn their lives and country upside down, then abandon them when they need our help to get back on their feet.  \n\nThe question is - do they want our help?  The media would have you believe that they do not and if this is indeed the case then we should pull everyone out of there and let them carry on.
1115346
Iraqi forces are being train to replace our forces. As they are built up, we and the other forces leave. Only problem is the politicans like Sen. Kerry keep crying about calandars rather than geting the job done. They need to let the guys on the ground run the show.
193511
I believe we are starting to see signs of a determined effort on the part of the US administration to give the fledgling Iraqi government a timetable to deal with, in terms of the US reducing its troop strength. This is happening for a number of reasons.  1) The American people have had quite enough of the pace of this war and our inability to stop the senseless killings of our troops, by these devil worshiping bastards the media calls, insurgents.\n2) We need to free ourselves up from this circle jerk before the next one starts.\nWe may not see a complete troop withdrawal for a long time, but we may be able to pull our guys back or out of harms way so they are no longer practice fodder for the bad guys.  Remember, the bad guys don't want to see us go, they want to keep us there putting out fires, but hopefully we can see that and not allow ourselves to play into it.
1013044
It's very clear, we (for the most part) despise our president... one which lost the majority election years ago... We, as Americans, support our troops and want them to come home... We, as Americans, don't like the war in Iraq, feel we went there on false pretenses and disapprove of the entire ordeal.  Most Americans feel we should bring our troops home RIGHT NOW and stop this BS... We have no business being there, the army took out Hussein, their primary goal, so the jobs done, they don't want us there, we don't want to be there, so why are we still there?  \n\nGod bless our soldiers, dying because an idiot wanted to fulfill daddy's wishes...\n\nlol, yeah, and when we leave and they have another trained army (just like Hussein's) that's really going to stop another tyrant from taking over?  All it does is train the next leaders troops when we go to war in the next decade.  Their army, security, and police have had the training they need.  We aren't providing any real security anyway, they are now just using American and UN soldiers as an excuse to slaughter civilians and avoiding confrontation as much as possible.  It's a joke, when we leave they will just have a more powerful army for the next power hungry leader to use at his disposal.
322658
Well..I'd go with all of the above. Understand this: Bush's approval rating is lower than 40%, and even fewer people support the war in Iraq. He in no way represents the American people, and nobody here really wants to be in Iraq fighting a bull$hit war baised on lies. Personally, I wish we would just pull out. Not only would it save countless troop's lives, but it would allow us to begin to heal relations with other countries and we could FINALLY regain our dignity as Americans. The Bush administration is a big embarassment to us all
930649
so are you arguing that we should stay in Iraq or not?  Because you say you can use sources why we should stay, BUT you are against withdrawal.  those are the same things.
568452
I think the war in Iraq is a failure of the Bush adminastration. Iraqi's are engaged in a civil war and we are in the middle of it. Only way out is to get out and let them settle for themselves. I always wondered how many repugs were acturally fighting in the war. Now I know. It is a shame.
525034
our troops will stop dying for that particular cause and Iraq will probably revert to a war torn arena that is governed by warlords and/or different religious factions until the most powerful one is able to take control, which will probably/definitely be another Saddam.... then you will have another situation unlike the previous and we can start all over, probably with a US leader that will not invade but will allow a military buildup and then we can just let them invade us..... after all, the only thing most (not all but most) of the governments in that part of the world want is the complete destruction of the west.... which includes us and anyone that is on our side................. so while no one wants what we have there now.... the choice is finish it and get out or get out and let them finish us............... our choice.
682441
Hun you do relieze that you put IRAN right and not IRAQ... Cause that is where I am right know IRAQ.. And this war is going to go on for a while.. we are going to be here for a long time.. This war is not a war on a battle field anymore.. it is a war against Insergeants who are trying to win the people over... the war we are at is called Counter INsergancy... We the United Nations... are trying to win the hearts and minds or the people (people being Iraqies)... But in a recent study that came down it will take at least 9 years for this "war" to be won... and 13 years to be one if the insergents do a better job at winning over the local population.. and from the front lines.. it is happing we are losing this war in the long run. American Soldiers are killed everday.. It was totaled and average.. we loose about 3-5 American Troops aday... that is through the Airforce, Navy, Mariens, and Army... If you as me Yes I want to be here... Cause if where to Loose this war...then my brothers and Sisters have dies for nothing... If you want to talk more in depth about it please feel free to Im me... or Email me
59684
No, we are not losing the war. We won't win the hearts and minds of all iraqi's and there will still be problems, but we've removed a genocidal dictator, taken the first steps in liberating Iraq, witnessed elections, played key roles in rebuilding the country's infrastructure, partnered with 27 other nations, and we're doing the right thing. I agree we should pull most of our troops out when it makes sense, but now is not that time.