How come every Christian I talk to says the Mormons & Jehovah's Witnesses are a cult, but those groups say no?
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No one who is currently involved in a cult is going to be aware of that fact. The definition of a cult is a group that follows and individual instead of God. These groups tend to go by one man's word and not just what God gave us in the Bible.\nAmybratincamo, I've seen a few answers you've given, and I think you must be very unhappy and confused about life.
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As usual, the so eloquently named EATGIZZ and I differ.  I AM A MORMON.  Are Mormons Christian? YES!! Latter-day Saints believe in Christ as the Savior, the Redeemer, the Son of God, the Creator of the earth, and the only source of salvation. It is His love and grace that give meaning to life and hope to humanity. We believe in the Bible, which plainly teaches that Christ is our Savior and that all men must repent and come unto Christ to be saved. Some critics proclaim that Mormons are not Christians and don't believe in Christ. I really don't like other people telling me what I believe! As a Latter-day Saint, I have been taught, and have personally chosen, to accept Christ as my Savior. I am taught to follow Him, to rely on His love, and to feast on His word. I know that real Mormons are Christians. We worship Christ and covenant to follow Him. We are baptized in His name to follow Him, we partake of the sacrament (the holy communion) weekly to remember the sacrifice of His blood and to remember His victory over death, we pray to the Father in His name, and we strive to obey Him, knowing that it is only through His merits and grace that we are saved. He is constantly held up in our meetings as our Savior, our Redeemer, our Lord, and the author of our faith and our salvation. We believe that He stands at the head of His living Church, leading it as in days of old through revelation to His prophets and apostles. The Christ we worship is the living Christ, the Son of God, foretold in the Old Testament, revealed in the New Testament, and affirmed in The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ.
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Mormons are Christian.  The difference is doctrine like the many different facets of Christianity.
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Actually, Jehovah's Witnesses are unique in that they can ALL use the bible to explain their beliefs. Even Witness schoolchildren are comfortable explaining the Scriptures from door-to-door.\n\nIf the members of your church are not preaching as Christ commanded, you might ask yourself what Jesus said about those who would disregard the public preaching work...\n\nMat 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples\n\nLuke 10:1-17 [Jesus said] Beg the Master of the harvest to send out workers into his harvest…he that disregards you disregards me too
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Yes they are point clear reason why is because everything you just said was infact the truth we all know that the jesus the mormons follow who went to americas is indeed not the jesus we read from the word of God which is the bible. The book of mormon also the book of nomrom is  a false doctrine to lure people away from the state of the fact that the bible is the only true word of God there is there is no other book in its existence that can come close to the bible it would already be in the bible if that was true fact. So there fore the book of mormon can not be true.\nEveryone who has done there research on the fact that the book of pearl of great price was indeed stolen from egyptain helographic's from the egyptain book of the dead. Fact and proven. A mormon can state all they like that they know it to be true but when you ask them how do you know it to be true they say well my heart told me and God said not to trust the heart for the heart is wikked. Jesus also said when you pray pray this way our father who art in heaven.\nNot to the spirit of God but to the father as it says not to a made up heavenly father but to God the one who created you. Chrstians say in the name of the father the son and the holy spirt amen or sometimes they well say in the name of jesus amen mormons and i say these things in the name of jesus christ amen. Why do they say i say these things in the name in stead of saying in the name lol?
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The Jehovah's Witnesses (JWs) Claim to be the one true Christian organization on the earth. However, much of their doctrine is contradictory to what the Bible teaches about Christ, and if you don't believe the right things about Christ you can't claim to be a Christian organization.  So what is the major issue?\n\nObviously, the most major and glairing contradiction between true Christianity and what the JWs teach is that Christians believe that Jesus is who he said he is, God in human flesh, and the JWs believe he is merely the archangel Michael.  Since our eternal destiny hangs on who we say that Christ is, it's imperative that we come to a correct conclusion from scripture about who Christ is.  Bear in mind that when interpreting scripture it is important to use the whole counsel of scripture, in other words, you can't take one verse out of context and build a doctrine on it, you must understand the times, situations, and context in which the passage was written and from that perspective determine what it's saying.  You can make the Bible say anything you want if you disregard context and the integrity of the Bible as a whole.  \n\nThat said, we see in the pages of the Bible a reoccurring theme from Genesis 1 to Revelation 22.  The theme is that of the redemption of man from sin.  The Old Testament speaks about the promise of redemption and the New Testament speaks about its fulfillment in the person of Jesus Christ.  So if the entire Bible speaks of this person perhaps we ought to have an accurate picture of who this man is.  If the Bible is one unified message from God and it speaks about God and his redeemer we should be able to paint a fairly accurate portrait of who God and this redeemer are by reading his message to us.\n\nIn Job Chapter 9 Job is speaking about the attributes of God and in verse 8 we read, “He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea.”  In Mathew’s account of the ministry of Jesus we see that Jesus also walks on water, verse 25 of Mathew chapter 14 states, “During the fourth watch of the night Jesus went out to them walking on the lake.”  According to Job God alone can walk on the water.\n\nIn Isaiah chapter 43 God says that He alone is the savior verse 11 specifically states’ “I, even I, am the Lord apart from me there is no savior.  In his letter to Titus, Paul opens the letter with an interesting greeting.  Verses 3 and 4 state, “. . . he brought his word to light through the preaching entrusted to me by the command of God our savior, To Titus, my true son in our common Faith:  Grace and peace from God the Father and Jesus our savior.”  Paul refers to God and Jesus as savior yet Isaiah clearly states that Only God is savior.\n\nJohn Chapter 1 speaks of the ministry of John the Baptist in verse 23 we read, “John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet, “I am the voice of one calling in the dessert, make straight the way of the Lord.”  When we look at Isaiah 40:3 for clarification we read; “A voice of one calling: In the dessert prepare the way for the Lord; make straight in the wilderness a highway for our God.”  As we read more in John chapter 1 we see that John was preparing the way for Jesus, yet according to what we have read in Isaiah the voice calling in the dessert was to be preparing the way for God.\n\nGod says in Isaiah 45:23, “By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity, a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear.”  However, Philippians 2:10 and 11 state, “that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.\n\nIn John 2 verses 19-21 we read Jesus’ statement about his coming resurrection, “Jesus answered them destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.” The Jews replied it has taken 40 years
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The ignorance and utter cluelessness of some of the people responding to this question is absolutely amazing. For one thing, I've noticed that Jehovah's Witnesses' teachings can be backed up completely by the Bible, whether I use my King James Version or read through their New World Translation. \n\nTheir activity of going from door-to-door in talking to other people about the good news of God's Kingdom and what it will do for mankind is A COMMAND FROM CHRIST to true Christians. How many of you nutcases, and I'm speaking of FairyNanook, Jeffo, and Tabi, obey Jesus' command to go and preach to people? I bet not a single one of you, and I bet none of your churches teach that it's necessary, either. \n\nI found the fact that FairyNanook and Tabi made such ignorant and blatantly stupid comments against the activity of the Jehovah's Witnesses to be highly offensive, as I also find it offensive that they call themselves Christians. \n\nJesus Christ himself taught people about God's Kingdom and he showed them on a very small scale by his miraculous healings and the truths that he taught that it is God's Kingdom that will bring an end, very shortly, to the painful suffering of people today. How exactly is it wrong, Tabi, that Jehovah's Witnesses do the same thing? They help people to see the benefits that are soon to come to this earth when things like AIDS (as you mentioned) are wiped out forever? What exactly is so awful that the Witnesses teach people that the Kingdom will do this? \n\nMy goodness, you people really need a clue. "Only saved by Grace".....sure, that's a teaching in a Christian church, but certainly not a TRUE Christian church. Try calling yourself a Christian when you actually start obeying Christ by preaching to others.\n\n----------------------------------------\n\nLooks to me like FairyNanook isn't very Bible-smart. Here, you go Oh Very Spiritually Blind One: "Indeed, as the body without spirit is dead, so also FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD." (James 2:26) You can claim to have all the faith in the world, honey, but without the works to back up those claims, you're just talking into the wind. And while you're at it, I suggest you review the preaching assignment that Christ commanded his followers to engage in. The example was that they were to town to town, village to village, and DOOR TO DOOR. \n\nAnd doing so "for points"? Where in the world did you get that nonsense from? Jehovah's Witnesses do what they out of obedience to Jesus Christ, for one thing. They do it out of love for neighbor for another, and they do it because if they didn't, they would be considered bloodguilty before God. Your thoughts are seriously out of whack and you should be very concerned with the amount of ignorance you display here. \n\nIf you can't recognize that, then YOUR entire way of thinking is what is truly twisted and in deep error. I'm sure you think you teach or know truth, but honey, by your very own words, you're admitting to being one of Satan's blinded drones.\n\n-------------------------------------------------\n\nFinally! She admits that she doesn't have the slightest idea what she's talking about. She's happy to be blinded to the truths that are so clearly brought out in God's Word, the Bible. Perhaps we should all pray that her lack of spiritual understanding and her veil of Biblical ignorance be lifted, as what she thinks she knows now is only doing her more harm than anything else. \n\nAnd if anyone wants ACCURATE and TRUTHFUL information on what Jehovah's Witnesses teach and why......you would wisely steer clear of the trash sites she listed and go right to the official source:\n\n-------------------------------------------------\n\nThe ridiculousness of your comments, honey, is a very clear admission on your part (whether you think so or not). \n\n"Going to the Watchtower website wi
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Excuse me but dont come on my board and make little threats to me about violation lol im very aware of the protocol of yahoo.\nYou dont have to respond just shows your acting like a dumb cult member lol. I know how cults work and i know also about egyptain Gods that are very alive in your church because of y our Joseph smith so if you want to make this a debate cool im ready for the challenge are you.
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Im one of Jehovah Witnesses and I know what you are talking about. I ask a question and people start telling me what my faith believes, and most of the time they are soooo far off. It just bugs me that people hear from other people and automatically believe its true instead of asking the person who would know the truth.
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Anti-Mormons often twist our doctrines out of context to make people falsely believe that Latter-Day Saints denigrate Jesus and consider Satan and the Lord to be equals. Of course, anyone familiar with our beliefs about Jesus Christ knows that we have the utmost respect and reverence for Our Savior and Redeemer.\n\nFirst, Jesus Christ is the Only Begotten Son of God the Father (and is therefore divine) and the mortal virgin Mary. Satan, a malignant spirit, does not share this parental heritage of Jesus, and cannot be considered divine in any respect. Therefore, in the usual way that we speak of brothers and sisters, Jesus and Satan are not brothers.\n\nHowever, Latter-day Saints believe that God is our Father in Heaven. Before we came to this world, we all lived as spirits under his care and guidance. We believe that God begat or created the spirits of Jesus, Lucifer, and all of the human family as his children. Our Heavenly Father is literally the father of our spirits. Jesus Christ is considered the preeminent "firstborn" or "firstbegotten" (see Hebrews 1:4-6; Firstborn in the Spirit)\n\nEven though God the Father created all of our spirits, we were not equal in that premortal state. Jesus was a member of the Eternal Godhead, through his own innate worthiness, and created the universe under the Father’s direction. The Godhead is comprised of our Heavenly Father, his Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. Since the Fall of Adam, the Father has represented himself to the world through Jesus Christ. Jesus was Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament.\n\nLucifer, who was never a member of the Godhead like Jesus, rebelled against God, and was forever cast out. He became Satan, our adversary. Unlike Jesus or us, Lucifer will never be born into a physical body. \n\nLatter-day Saint scriptures summarize this issue as follows:\n\nAND I, the Lord God, spake unto Moses, saying: That Satan, whom thou hast commanded in the name of mine Only Begotten, is the same which was from the beginning, and he came before me, saying--Behold, here am I, send me, I will be thy son, and I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely I will do it; wherefore give me thine honor.\n\nBut, behold, my Beloved Son, which was my Beloved and Chosen from the beginning, said unto me--Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine forever.\n\nWherefore, because that Satan rebelled against me, and sought to destroy the agency of man, which I, the Lord God, had given him, and also, that I should give unto him mine own power; by the power of mine Only Begotten, I caused that he should be cast down;\n\nAnd he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies, to deceive and to blind men, and to lead them captive at his will, even as many as would not hearken unto my voice. (The Pearl of Great Price, Moses 4:1-4)\n\nSo it can be said that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers, in the sense of both being spiritually begotten by the Father, but it is a misrepresentation to say so without giving the contextual background. Whatever similarities in background exist between Jesus and Satan pale compared to the differences. Jesus is the Beloved and Chosen, who is the Only Begotten Son of God in the flesh.
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It would be considered as cult since it teachings do not line up with the teachings of Christ.  It embraces many old testmament practices, which is fine, but it denies the identity of Jesus as the Son of God who died for our sins...it looks like a jewish version of jahovah's witnesses.
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You have done research on "Mormons", yet you say they don't believe in the resurrected Jesus Christ!? Mormons ARE Christians because they DO believe in Jesus Christ. Why would they name their church "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" if they didn't believe in Him? Obviously your research skills are extremely flawed!\nTheir doctrines do not contradict the Bible. They believe in the Bible. They follow biblical teachings. They have another book of scripture that is a companion to the Bible. Again... your research skills need work. \nAs for the original question "are Mormons an occult religion?" The answer is no. the 'Mormon' religion is open to everyone.
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I would like to direct this answer to Mr. Curious. \n\nYou look like a caucasion in your picture and I presume you speak constructively good english. How come you find it hard to understand the question? Maybe, I need to rephrase the question for you and here it goes "Are Mormons brainwashed on their belief or they just don't have the clue? Did you get it now or do I have to elaborate some more? Or are you just trying to be a smart mormon.\n\nI was actually expecting a very logical and mindopening answer from you because I would usually see Mormons decently dressed, looking educated while visiting people's homes and converting Christians to another form of Chritianity. Oh! how such looks can be so deceiving.\n\nI am an oriental and I don't see anything wrong with the question. At least, maybe the best that you can do is presume that he is not an american or british. I believe that if you are in your right mind, you will also consider my opinion either as logical, fundamental, Romanical, mormonical or moronical. Which is which? I guess you are the only one who knows and be a smart moron.\n\nI just wish that we believers of Christ should not be as judgemental because I am Christian myself. Please try to be more objective and stop evading valid questions like that, like some prejudiced, hot headed, duel ready muslims (although not all), and feel justified by calling people to look like morons or if you have nothing better more to say, might as well stop the paranoia and shut the pipe down.\n\nNow, you have lost another soul to convince.
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The twelve tribes are a cult. Please do not join them. Any group that specifys who their "leader" is, when it is not God, is a cult.
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Mormons are Christians. I cannot see a problem, but then again, I am a Pagan.
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They are trying to convince themselves that they really don't believe. I don't think it's a cult, but rather a weird way to attract attention. Most other religious people do not run around telling all that they meet, what their beliefs are. I say each to his own! Try having an "athiest" tell you why they believe the way they do.....The answer is usually very long and drawn out.
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Some of the answers being given in here are truly amazing......because of the incredibly ignorant prejudice people have and their utterly idiotic reasons they give. \n\nLet's look at what reasons people are giving, and what the facts actually are: \n\n1) They think Jesus is gonna comeback and just chilaxilate in this huge mansion they built for him in California\n\nTHE TRUTH IS: That very idea is ridiculous. Jehovah's Witnesses have never preached anything even remotely close to this. \n\n2) i don't like any religious faction that 'forces' their belief system.\n\nTHE TRUTH IS: Jehovah's Witnesses don't force anything on anyone. They come around to share positive Biblical thoughts with individuals and if someone doesn't care to hear it, they respect those wishes and leave. Nobody is forced into anything. \n\n3) It's not that they knock on my door, IT'S THAT THEY DO IT AT 7AM ON A SATURDAY!!!! \n\nTHE TRUTH IS: Jehovah's Witnesses DO NOT and WILL NOT go in their house-to-house work that early in the morning. They just don't. They have more respect for people than to go that early when they're most likely still asleep. If someone came to your door at that time, it wasn't a Jehovah's Witness.\n\n4) They don't properly research their material -- they don't know their own Bible, especially the Old Testament. \n\nTHE TRUTH IS: A tremendous amount of time and effort has been and is spent in researching the Bible. We don't have our "own" Bible, in fact, we're more than happy to discuss any Bible translation with people because for the most part, the same upbuilding thoughts and hopes are present in them as well. And if you actually speak to Jehovah's Witnesses, you'll find that they know the bible VERY well. \n\n5) Told me God would punish me because I let the ER give me a blood transfusion to save my life.\n\nTHE TRUTH IS: NO Jehovah's Witness would ever tell anyone such a thing. All they would do is share the Bible's viewpoint on the matter of blood. \n\n6) Them assuming that I want them to come to my door and tell me what I should and shouldn't believe.\n\nTHE TRUTH IS: They do no such thing. They share positive and encouraging thoughts from the Bible if someone is interested, and if not, they politely leave and move on. \n\n7) they keep comming to my house to sell me stuff i do not believe in or want \n\nTHE TRUTH IS: Jehovah's Witnesses do not SELL anything. \n\n8) they keep pushing their views. I mean, come on. How many No's does it take for them to just go away? Stop soliciting your religion. Even Christians aren't THAT pushy. \n\nTHE TRUTH IS: (1) They keep coming back because sometimes people's circumstances change. When a person isn't interested one day, they may very well be on another. (2) Jehovah's Witnesses ARE christians. True Christians would follow the command that Jesus laid upon them do to exactly the work that Jehovah's Witnesses are doing. \n\n9) twisting the Scriptures/demeaning Christianity\n\nTHE TRUTH IS: They do NEITHER of those things. Rather, by their adherence to Bible teachings, they expose those religions that do twist the scriptures and demean Christianity. \n\n10) only 1 thing ever botherd me about them and that is when one told me i was going to hell because i participate in the tradition of halloween I really didn't appreciate that \n\nTHE TRUTH IS: NO Jehovah's Witness would ever have told you that because the Bible doesn't teach that there is a fiery burning hell like false religion teaches. \n\n11) they think like only 40,000 ppl will b saved then they like take a whole bunch of kids and lock them in rooms by themselves and make them just like sit there and read \nday after day\nthey like dont get out ever....\n\nTHE TRUTH IS: That statement simply doesn't make any sense. The scriptures teach that 144,000 will be granted heavenly life. As far as the l