Who among you believes that the "GREAT TRIBULATION" has already happened?
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I think we were at "THE THOUSAND YEARS" but I don't know how long would this "thousand years" would last. Its at Revelation 20:1-6\n\nI think that all that's been said in the Revelation prior to the chapter 20 (that's upto chapter 19) were all pertained to the struggle of the Christianity. Everything that is written is symbolic, now that is the problem, I don't have much idea what those symbols means. But I know that the number 666 or the beast pertains to Emperor Nero. Since the "whole world" mention in Revelation is the world/nations itself known by the Christians at that time. All I know that He is coming very soon. So be it. Come, Lord Jesus!
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He can't help himself, he is deluded into thinking he can pull it off. God dwells in Eternity, He went down the time line & took a look, then told John what was going to happen. Prophesy is not "foretelling" the future. It is History told, before it happens.
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There are always prophesies about the world ending. When one doesn't come true and time passes on then society starts looking for the next clue - or the old prophecy is reinterpreted! I think science beats them all, since they predicted that if we did not change our ways the Earth would make us suffer. Now we are seeing its true - though science says we are too late to change anything now. I guess we'll see who was right when the time comes!  I think the world will end just as science says, by catastrophic global changes, and that will happen on a big enough scale to finally end us all on the date the Mayan calender runs out...... :)  Or it could be 6-26-06...who knows?!!\n\nIn the meantime check out this prediction: http://www.theworkofgod.org/Pope/saint_malachy_prophecies.htm
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We are in the end of the times, and all we are waiting for now is the last person to be born again by God's Spirit through repentance and faith in Christ (trusting in him to save them as they would in a parachute they have put on to save them from the jump that is to come). \n\nOnce the last person is saved then Jesus will return and all believers will be raptured to heaven and the Tribulation period will come upon all who were left behind on earth. God's wrath will begin and the entire tribulation period will be 7 years before he returns with all the Christians from heaven and the angels to reign on earth for 1000 years. This is called the Millenial Kingdom. A\n\nt the end of the world there will be two judgments on one Judgment Day. At the Bema (reward) seat of Christ (the saved)believers will receive rewards and crowns for being obedient servants, the rest of the people who were placed in Hell until this Day or were alive up to this point will be brought before God on this Judgement Day and they will be judged by God according to the 10 commandments and see if they have broken his Law. Those who are guilty (all of those unsaved people there on Judgement Day)will be found guilty and tossed into the Lake of Fire and will be tormented and alone in darkness for all eternity. Never to escape or be saved from it.
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I don't think that anyone knows for sure! Everyone thinks that their answer is correct, but everyone is saying something different.  But let's face it: It's going to happen if it hasn't happened already!
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Jesus will come only one more time and that will be the judgment and end of this world. \n\nMatt 25:31-33\nWhen the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:\nAnd before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:\nAnd he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.\nThen shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world\n\nIt will happen in the twinkling of an eye: I Cor 15:51-52\nBehold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,\nIn a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.\n\nRecommended reading: A case for Amillinnialism -Understanding The End Times by Kim Riddlebarger
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Biblical end times.......it has all been prophesied
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The Bible doesn't say that the tribulation will be seven years.  This theory comes from those who have accepted the lie of the rapture.  The misconception is that God's people will be removed from this earth while the rest will go through a  seven year period as a second chance.   There is also an attempt to misapply the last week of the prophecy given in Daniel.  "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy."  (Dan 9:24)  Since they did not fully understand the prophecy, they tried to move the last week (7 years of literal time) to the time just before Jesus returns.  \n\nThe mistake is that this prophecy was given to the Jewish people, "thy people", to get rid of their idolatry and to receive the Messiah.  "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."  (Dan 9:27)    The last week of that prophecy began with the baptism of Jesus.  This is when he began his ministry.  He gave evidence of his being the Messiah, but the leaders didn't believe him, so in the middle of the week he was "cut off."  Jesus was crucified 3 1/2 years (in the middle of the week) after his baptism.  The whole saccrificial system of the Jews represented Jesus in some way, so when he was saccrificed on the cross, there was no longer a need for them to offer saccrifices any more. ("cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease").  The week ended when Stephen was stoned, thus sealing the fate of the nation and taking the gospel to the gentiles.\n\nThe days that were cut short were also from one of Daniels prophecies.\nDan 7:24-25\n(24)  And the ten horns out of this kingdom [are] ten kings [that] shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.\n(25)  And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.\n\nThis prophecy began after the breakup of the Roman Empire.  It broke into 10 divisions, but there came another ruler which destroyed three of these tribes.  The last tribe was destroyed in the year 538 A.D.   Then begins the time.  The time period is for 1260 prophetic days, or literal years and ended in 1798.  (And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.  (Eze 4:6))\n\nNotice in verse 25 that this new kingdom would "speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws:"   This means that it would blaspheme against God and that it would try to destroy the faithful people of God, and try to change God's law.\n\nNow for the shocker.  This power is the Roman Catholic Church.  It spoke "great words against the most high"; the Pope claims to be God on this earth and that he should be worshipped as God.  "Wear out the saints";  the inquisitions had the sole purpose to kill those who found the truth of the Bible and saw that the Catholic church was nothing more than paganism in disguise.  It tried to "change times and laws"; the church gave us our current callendar.  But it also claims to have changed the ten commandments.  The major change is that the Roman Catholic church admits that it is responsible for the change in the day of worshi
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It would be nice if people would put the verse they ask about here too.\nI don't have my Bible handy, but I think you're referring to verse that says, "That\nday will not come, till the son of perdition is revealed."\nThis has been an ongoing argument with Christians. When will the Rapture\noccur? This verse says it will not happen until the antichrist is revealed for who he really is!
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I think man is fallible and only in retrospect can we tell if prophecy is true. How many prophecies have proven untrue?\n\nIt is a great day to be alive!!\n\nGood luck and God Bless!!
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Yay!  I love your post!  It's true, nobody has EVER (get it?!), nor ever will come close to doing the things He did.  Oh sure, there have been good people, but were ANY of them perfect?  NO!!!  I forget what the statistic is, but I think it's really cool how the chances of someone fulfilling all of the OT prophecies that Jesus did are only one in a few million!  Jesus is alive and well, and will be coming back to reclaim this corrupted, old world for His own once again!  Oh, to imagine that day!
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It's not the idea of a rapture that I don't believe in, but the word itself. The word isn't found in the Bible. I do believe Jesus will come the way it says, but wonder where the word "rapture" came from.
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I`ll answer this from the Aethist point of view, im sure other much more learned chrsitians will chime off on this topic. \n\nI`d first like to start off that the word "rapture" appears no where in the new testiment. \n\nSites like Rapture Ready (re: sources) provides a plethora of people wanting the end times to come, and prehaps reading a bit too much into the signs of the end times. As scary as that site is,  its a great source for the many many\ntheorys behind the rapture.\n\nThe basic plot to the rapture is, at some time that "only god knows when". All 'saved' christians on earth, will suddenly dissapear in a blink of an eye and carried off to heaven. \n\nThis would leave the world in chaos, where a person will come and bring calm and peace to the world. Under this one world government he would suppress religion (namely christinity) with his deadly armys and force his views on the world. \n\nThis Antichrist will rule for 7 years. During a battle with christians in isreal, jesus will finally reappear and save the day. Where all christians will then live on earth in a millenieal kingdom.\n\nNow there is alot more various theorys, but the above is the standard teaching give or take details specific to each Evangelical congregation.\n\nWikipedia has the 3 most popular versions of the "tribulations" associated with the rapture so make sure to check that out as well.
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No, I don't.  I believe that the book of Revelations was written about politics and events that were current nearly 2,000 years ago and has no relevance today.  I know that various preachers have been predicting the "End Times" for several hundred years and they've all been wrong.\n\nI see reliance on the concept of a "Judgement Day" as a tool for manipulating the masses and a serious cop out (i.e. "The world's a mess but have no fear, Jesus is gonna' come sort the whole nasty business out for us, so just pay your tithe and smile!")\n\nI have yet to see anything positive come out of a belief in Armageddon, just a lot of apathy, war and avoidance of important issues.  So all in all, I think we're better off forgetting about it and working for a better tommorow.
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Yes. I'm a partial preterist. The Apocalypse had to have an immediate relevance to the seven churches of the Roman province of Asia, because John was their partner in the tribulation (1:9). The definite article is definitely there with "thlipsis" and supports my preterist leanings. However, Jesus has not returned yet, and that part of the Apocalypse is yet future. So, I'm a Preterist/Futurist, a position that was held and defended by George Elton Ladd (cf. his Commentary on Revelation).
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Perhaps not for quite the same reasons that you do, but yes, I do think we are living in the last days of this system of things. You are correct...there are a great many Bible prophesies coming true as we speak.
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No, don't think so.\n\nJtuckerndfw, you really need to read the entire scripture, not just one sentence.  As you can see, when a generation sees all of these things come to pass, that will be the generation of the tribulation.  Can't take one sentence out of scripture, you really do need the entire scripture or you'll end up like so many, taking one thing out of context and changing the whole meaning.\n\nMatthew 24:\n 15"So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,'[b] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. 19How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. 22If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time. \n\n 26"So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the desert,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. 27For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather. \n\n 29"Immediately after the distress of those days \n   " 'the sun will be darkened, \n      and the moon will not give its light; \n   the stars will fall from the sky, \n      and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'[c] \n\n 30"At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. \n\n 32"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[d]is near, right at the door. 34I tell you the truth, this generation[e] will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.