i am not defending myself - gays and christians?
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Christians denounce homosexuality because the Old Testament says that sodomy is a sin. Of course, it says a lot of other things are sins, too, and Christians don't go around denouncing all the people who engage in those sins, so it makes one wonder. I'm pretty sure most people tell lies now and then, but Christians don't go around talking about all the evil liars and telling liars that they will burn in Hell the way they tell homosexuals they'll burn in Hell. Maybe that's because even they tell lies, so they understand how someone might occasionally commit that sin and still be a good Christian. If that's the case, it means they're hypocrites, though.\n\nI think one of the reasons they rationalize their criticism of homosexuality is that homosexuality is a "sin" that lasts a lifetime. Once someone "decides" to live a homosexual lifestyle, he is basically agreeing to commit the "sin" of sodomy for the rest of his life (well, males are, anyway). Many Christians perceive this to be worse than a "one time" sin such as stealing some money from someone but feeling guilty about it and repenting afterwards. And then when homosexuals also talk about their sexuality openly, it's as if they're bragging about their sin, or at least that's how it appears to many Christians.\n\nHowever, what Christians don't think about is that almost all people engage in some kind of "ongoing" sin, like lying on a regular basis, and yet they forgive these people, realizing it's God's place to judge, not theirs. For example, the Old Testament also denounces a child who talks back to a parent with the same fire and brimstone language that it denounces sodomy. And yet you don't see Christians denouncing children as "sinners." A child might be chastized for talking back to a parent on a particular occasion, but you hardly ever hear any Christian with any sense of perspective whatsoever telling the child he's "going to burn in eternal Hell for his sinful ways" just because he occasionally sasses his Mom.\n\nA better example is divorce and remarriage. While sodomy is condemned in the the Old Testament (Leviticus especially), it is not condemned in the New Testament. Jesus doesn't say a word about it. And yet divorce and remarriage are clearly condemned in both the Old and New Testament. Jesus himself says that marriage is sanctified by God and that no one should break a marriage apart. And yet most of the Christians who regularly condemn homosexuality and turn their noses up at gays wouldn't dream of telling people who have divorced and remarried that they're going to burn in eternal Hell because of it. I can see no reason for this except pure hypocrisy. They themselves, being straight, would never commit sodomy (or at least not with someone of the same sex) and think it's disgusting, so it's easy to condemn those who do. But since they themselves may get divorced and have friends who may be or will someday be divorce, they understand the problems that can lead to divorce and sympathize with those who would suffer if they remained married, even though divorce is a sin. Likewise, they see it as simply "human nature" when divorce peole find love and marry again. Why can't they sympathize with homosexuals who would suffer if they never acted on feelings of love and remained alone, or worse, in a forced and fake marriage? Because they themselves have never felt that kind of love, so they don't get it.\n\nDo I understand their reasons for disliking homosexuality? Yes. (Although I personally disagree.) Do I think it's their place to denounce homosexuals? Absolutely not. Even the Bible says "judge not  lest ye be judged." I think it's pure hypocrisy. And if a few more of them were shown how their attitudes towards homosexuality and divorce reveal the underlying hypocrisy, maybe a few of
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I don't wish to prove it wrong,  i respect everyone's beliefs.  I just wish the christians on here would do the same and not get so aggressive when anyone dares to give a point of view different from theirs.
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As a Christian, i want to apologise for the answer of some other people calling themselves Christians. Certainly i believe what the bible says about homosexuality, but i am always amazed at how little Jesus actually has to say about it.\n\nHe is far more on about loving God and others than about judgement of people who are gay.\n\nSo buddy, i reckon that what you are working through (your sexuality) is perfectly normal. It is always nice to have other people around who know how you feel. \n\nYou would be surprized how many of the people at your school are gay as well. Starting a gay youth group may be one way to find out who they are.\n\nJust be careful not to get yourself into a place where adults can take advantage of you.\n\nDON'T DO ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH!!!\n\nif you are not sure. it's better to just say - 'no i don;t want to do this anymore'.  and then if you feel like trying it again later, with a different person - go for it. God is big enough and ungly enough to cope. and he will love you at the end of the day whatever you have done.\n\nSee ya.
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Yeah, you're completely right.  Christianity is poked fun at a lot, particularly since people came forward about sexual abuse.  I disagree with a lot of Catholic Church beliefs (mostly about women and homosexuals) In that sense, one can see that the Church has soem narrow-mindedness as well.  No one really knwos the answers to these types of questions, like why is it okay to make fun of white people or homosexuals?  You're just right and there's nothing to do about it except asking friends not to make such insensitive jokes.
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I am one of those antagonizers and I am doing it not to persecute you but to get you to realize what you have chosen by stating that you are a particular type of believer whatever it may be.  You are defining yourself-unwittingly-as someone who is prejudice-you are representing yourself as someone who is above someone else (or will be they day you go to heaven and I go to hell) because you have received this thing you call GOD.  It is this thing that you call God that people have used to persecute one another throughout the history of mankind and then called themselves saved which is their own way of forgiving themselves for the autrocities they have committed.
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Then you aren't a Christian, are you.  \nSilly person.
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i don't think that if someone defends the right of gay people he/she is gay, I'm not gay and live in a country where their rights are not respected and i don't like it but can't say that I've done a lot to change it but it's also very, very hard!
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I as a Christian personally believe that homosexuality is wrong. Although I say it is, we must always remember, hate the sin, not the sinner. I will gladly get along with a homosexual, but I avoid that sin in their life and try to help them with it.
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I feel that we are all created by God to be what we will be. God made homos just as he did heteros. And for those who don't believe that... me and my queens will be waiting to make you over at the pearly gates. I mean really , heaven without gays, I can't even imagine it. But I have a very liberal, lovey, touchy-feely, kind of view of God and Jesus. I don't buy the hell fire and brimstone talk. God is love. Jesus is love. (not gay love, not straight love, just love) I guess a lot of people out there say I can't be christian because I don't believe gays are going to hell. Well, I have a limited amount of space to argue that suffice it to say I disagree.
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what did someone just prove?\n\nGays and lesbeins are just people.  No different from you andme they just like different people.  Its not there fault they cant choose to be gay or lesbein or whatever.  Thats just the way they are.\n\nIm not lesbein or gay, honestly I dont think jesus will repent anybody.  We are what we are for better or for worse.\n\nYou need to get out more.\n\nIm sure there are plenty of white gays/lesbeins that have partners that are black.\npeople are racist, people are gay.  The two dont always go hand and hand.
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I think Christians attack homosexuals in our society more frequently than other people who do things against the scriptures is because right now in our country, this is hte most controversial issue.  The church is just doing what the rest of the country is.  They'r etaking the most profound issue and discussing it.  You just don't like what they're saying.  Just because they say homosexual behavior is sinful, that doesn't mean they hate you.  A lot of poeple call themselves Christians, and don't even know the 10 commandments.  You can't let those people get to you.  Real Christians don't hate sinners because they know that they are sinners as well.  All sins are the same.  You say you are a Christian gay, which means you probably don't feel that homosexuality is a sin.  That will definately make you look at the church's responses with a bias.  Dude, i can love you, but that won't mean im gonna think ur right.  just like a guy can rob a jc pennys and kill the clerk.. i can love him but i'm not gonna say what he did was write.  those are all equal sins.. homosexuality, theft, murder.  its all sin.  buut.. u'll prolly ignore everything i said because ur not gonna wanna hear it.
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I do not know why you address this to Christian me when it has nothing to do with being a Christian.  Almost being a christian is not being a Christian.  Rewrite it with true Christian values and then we will comment on it as Christian men.  I forgive you.  Jesus loves you.
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some people say that christianity is against homosexuality but honestly i dont know.im a true believer(in God) and i hope im not contradicting the bible. this is my opinion: i dont think people should be made to feel bad because of their sexuality.its up to u to decide if u are strong enough to stand up for yo gay self.if not then do go for counselling and maybe u can find the cause of your problem(thats if uve decided its a problem).who are we to judge people, as far as im concerned if the bible says its wrong then seek treatment, if not and if ur religion allows it then accept yourself bcoz people usually only accept someone who is able to accept himself.
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Of course there are gay Muslums, Jews, and Christians.  While I have been raised Christian I can most identify with the latter of the three, but all gays and lesbians have encountered issues with these religions because they are all Abrahamic and therefor take many similar opions on the subject with one another.\n\nThe one religion I was brought up-Christian-is becoming more gay friendly in these devisive times.  While Catholocism has taken a strong stance against homosexuality-it still has followers who are organised to fight for gay rights within its church.  The American Episcopal Church of course has appointed a gay bishop in Massachussets which makes a bold statement on how that denomination is prepared to include gays and lesbians.  Also the Prespyterian Church has recently voted to allow gays and lesbians to be ministers and lay-people at the local level  (See link below).\n\nAs for personal experience, I have to admit I am feeling less Christian as I experience more rejection and hatred from Christian communities.  While there is progress being made, I find that while most churches are teaching inclusion-it is under the pretense that being homosexual is still wrong and that gays and lesbians should be accepted out of pity with the expectations that they should repent for their sexuality.  I disagree with this as gays and lesbians should be accepted into a Christian community free of the supposed guilt and stigma attached to their sexuality.\n\nThere are pro-gay Christian oranisations operating-though I have never attended their services.  The Universalists I have been told are very supportive of their gay followers.
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Youre absolutely correct. Not one Christian pays any attention to THAT PART of the Bible anymore. Unless, of course, they feel like bagging on a gay person. Then they reach out with open arms to embrace their hateful Bible as PROOF that God hates gay people.....when in reality, God hates everyone that isnt a Jew. \n\nHey, dont blame me - its all written in the Bible!
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I also try to be civil in my answers, but let's be honest:\n\n1. Many Christians ARE bigots.  Perhaps not you, but your religion doesn't have a very good track record over history.  Even today, most Christians dont' support equal rights and marriage for homosexuals.  That, in my opinion, is being a bigot.\n\n2.  I usually use logic and reason in my response to biblical questions.  Usually, Christian read right past it and ignore the logic for the sake of faith.  This is unforutnately, but most (perhaps not you) do this.\n\n3.  You belong to a big club (Christians).  I belong to the atheist sect.  Both of us are sometime "guilty by association" and there is nothing we can do about that.  Just something we have to live with.
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Technically, Christians shouldn't be fighting anyone... we should always be striving to be "Christ-like" and therefore should be "turning the other cheek" when someone wrongs us.\n\nNow, realistically, we are human beings and there is a bit of the evolutionary survival of the fittest attitude in all of us... so if someone tries to physically cause harm to us, our instincts are to prevent it by either deflecting the physical abuse or fighting back to render the other person disabled and therefore unable to harm us.  While I do not advocate violence, I don't believe in standing by while you or someone else is abused.  \n\nAs a Christian the only thing you should be asking yourself is "what would Jesus do?"  You will always have your answer and then it is up to you as to whether or not you want to act on it.