who support the patriot act and section 215?
342672
I think this ZOD guy is the only one, to include the Congressmen and Senators who voted for it in the first place, who has actually read the Patriot Act. Maybe we should put him in charge, I know I'd feel better.
942743
I don't think in the next 2-5 years, but yes I think the US is going that way.\nIf one reads history as to how those Nazi, Fascist, and Communist came to power, it was mainly supporting a "just cause" supported by the people.\nI would think the Patriot Act falls under one of those "just causes" by creating fear and the people so willing to give up freedoms  that our forefathers fought for in lieu of feeling secure when they are no more secure than yesterday. Then yet, the government has more control over you. Try updating your drivers license which will get a new issue date on it and then try opening a new bank account even with a US born and raised birth certificate and the Act won't allow you to. What kind of "just cause" is that to prevent me from changing banks? I was in the military and fought for this country in an unpopular war and I'm afraid that some day soon big brother can come and just pick you up and make you disappear without question. Just like the Nazi's did.
112745
It is a law that allows the Feds to spy on Americans without a reason. They say it is to fight terrorism...but who believes that without any proof. Check this out...
226920
Yes. I'm very upset at how the Bush administration has perverted the English language. "Patriot Act" takes away civil liberties. "Clean Water Act" allows companies to dump as much crud as they please in the water, and so on. \n\nThe Patriot Act allows the government to know which books you take out of the library. It denies the library the power to tell YOU that they they've been forced to tell the government which books you've checked out. \n\nStand up for your rights, kids. Once they're gone, they're gone.\n\n(And in response to another answer on this page: you don't have to wait until someone files a suit against a stupid law to know that it's wrong).
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The problem with the Patriot Act is that while it does provide a clause allowing judicial oversight, Title IV Section 412 includes provisions for judicial review in detentions, and Title II deals with warrant requirements for electronic surveillance, it does not make this oversight mandatory.\n\nThis means that these provisions are allowed to go unenforced. You see, the Executive Branch is in charge of this enforcement. So what we are seeing now and basically have a wide-open window to is when the laws get in the way of what Bush wants to accomplish, he just chooses not to enforce them.\n\nAlso, the 4th, 5th and 6th Amendments are limitations on government action, and apply to anyone under US authority or control. Nowhere does it mention 'citizen'.\n\nAs far as warrantless wiretapping, 50 U.S.C. §1801 et al. Warrantless wiretapping is illegal under FISA if any US citizen or resident alien is a party to the conversation. Also 18 U.S.C. § 2511: Compliance with FISA "shall be the exclusive means by which electronic surveillance... may be conducted". The Patriot Act runs head to head into legalities here.
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USA PATRIOT Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  \n... that was dramatically expanded by Section 505 of the Patriot Act. The legislation amended the ... Judge Audrey Collins ruled that Section 805 (which classifies "expert advice or ...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PATRIOT_Act - 97k - Cached - More from this site - Save\nCNN.com - Federal judge rules part of Patriot Act unconstitutional - Jan. 27, 2004  \nA federal judge in Los Angeles has struck down a provision of the post-September 11 USA Patriot Act, saying it was unconstitutional. ... of "monetary instruments" and "expert advice or assistance" were added to the original law by Section 805 of the Patriot Act ...www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/01/27/patriot.act - 51k - Cached - More from this site - Save\nEFF: USA PATRIOT  \nElectronic Frontier Foundation is a nonprofit group working to protect your digital rights. ... Sections 201 (and 805), "Authority to Intercept Wire, Oral, and Electronic Communications Relating to Terrorism ... More on section 203. More on Sunset Provisions " The USA PATRIOT Act ...www.eff.org/patriot -
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The Patriot Act did not create any new laws, only consolidated existing ones, so terrorism has nothing to do with it.  The government, with reasonable premises and a sometimes a court order, can pull IMs and phone logs for a number of reasons, just being that they believe you or her were involved in any crime they are investigating.
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Federal law does override/preempt state law, under the Supremacy Clause.\n\nBut the Patriot Act only grants authority to share information that otherwise exists between law enforcement agencies, and to grant access to information that is otherwise kept.\n\nWhat some cities have started doing is refusing to collect the information, which there was no legal requirement that they collect. Because the information doesn't exist, it cannot be taken by the federal govt under the Patriot Act. So, if the federal govt wants that private information, they have to go get it themselves.\n\nIn other words, the cities had to choose between spying on their residents, in the name of security, or backing off and not collecting some types of information. Some chose to back off, rather than contribute to the govt monitoring. It's a gutsy choice, and it's tragic that the federal govt forced them to make it.
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im afraid of that.  they called it the patriot act so we wouldall feel bad for hating it?? huh?? well i dont feel bad.  thats just creepy.  just think about it.  you could be being watched right now, and not know it, and thats not even against the law because its the law thats doing it...its not fair. were gonna all feel like prisoners soon.
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No, I don't support it.  I haven't had the time to read the entire act, but I've read parts of it, and I've read various summaries.  It gives the federal government FAR too much power, and really does nothing to stop terrorism.  \n\nFor anyone who talks about how there hasn't been an attack on US soil since 9/11, when was the last one before 2001?  That would be the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995.  Yeah, in the past four years, the rate of terrorist attacks has dropped from one every six years to what, exactly?  The only other terrorist attacks on US soil were in 1920, 1975, and 1993.  Yeah, we can really see the change in four years.\n\nBetween 1995 and 2001 there were three terrorist attacks against Americans abroad.  Between 2001 and 2005 there were six.  Yeah, the Patriot Act is sure stopping those terrorists in their tracks.\n\nLast I checked, all the people who orchestrated 9/11 who didn't die in the bombing are still out there.  Yeah, we catching so many terrorists thanks to the Patriot Act.\n\nTo summarize, the Patriot Act does nothing to fight terrorism but a whole lot to fight the civil rights of American citizens.
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The Patriot Act is a pile of crap and there is nothing patriotic about it. It is a way to remove rights guaranteed by the Constitution and is a violation of the Constitution as well.\n\nAlthough some consider it a great and necessary tool to fight terrorism, that's strictly hype by bush and his handlers. Americans are being manipulated by that ignorant, AWOL, son of a bush who has delusions of empororship.\n\nThe founders of our country never intended for such a thing to happen and warned us against it. They also warned us about men like bush, but folks seemed to have had their eyes closed when they put him in office. \n\nThat clown can't even communicate past simple, confused and mixed up sentences, unless some script writer puts words in his mouth.\n\nHaving said that, I think that act ought to be flushed down the toilet.\n\nADDITION: P.S. King georgie dosn't need the act anyway. He just ignores the law and does exactly what he wants, because he's president and that makes him the boss. He said so himself.
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How did 12 Million Mexicans get inside of America with Bush's fool-proof Patriot Act anyway? The news says 2 Million of them got in America in the last 3 months. What the hell! How many Arabs came in with them? What the hell! So do you really think there is a National security threat defcon-5 in America? What the hell! Do you think somebody has been feeding America alot crap all along, like say "ALL OF THE REPUBLICANS" and the whole Bush Administration? Myself I am really sick of there abuse and crap they spew out of there mouths. Bill Frist, Republican from Tennessee said he was going to do something about it without G.Dubya's help. So the Republicans are back-peddling on the own Administration on this issue right now. You can't blame anything on the Democrats; because they don't have any vote the Congress is total majority Republican. It's their problem and their fault with their fool-proof Patriot Act. America was never in any threat at all, and the Republicans played the Fear Card on Americans. That's real Bull, and they need punished for it. I call it Treason, Bush should be Impeached for being the biggest lier in the history of America.
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A severe blow to the civil liberties our forefathers worked so hard to get 230 years ago, that modern day Americans have seem to forgotten about.\n\nBush is guiding us down a path that will be very difficult to return from.  The Patriot Act with it's various inroads into our private lives, is a scary start.  Some people would argue that we are safer, but none said it better than Benjamin Franklin:\n\n"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Here's what the Patriot Act itself did. Not what dozens of other laws passed in the last five years or fifty years have done. Just the Patriot Act. And the link below is to the full text of the Act, to verify.\n\nMost of Title I just sets forth the intent. Most of Title II and Title V allows information gained from various intelligence gathering programs to be shared between law enforcement agencies.\n\nThe rest of Title II expands surveillance authority to allow roving taps where a specific target is difficult to tie to a particular line, extends the duration of taps to 120 days for terrorism-related activities, and makes other procedural changes to FISA.\n\nNote. The NSA warrantless wiretapping program violates even the expanded authority under FISA (50 USC 7201 et seq). There was never any attempt to make the NSA program comply with the law, even with the expansions granted by the Patriot Act.\n\nTitle III provides extra tools for tracking money laundering and funding of terrorist activities. Title IV expands border security. Title VI sets up a fund for victim relief.\n\nTitle VII and Title IX provide yet more tools for sharing information between intelligence agencies. Title VIII adds and expands the list of federal crimes relating to terrorism.\n\nThe most controversial provisions are those in Title V, and a few others, than dramatically expand the type of information that can be obtained by law enforcement personnel. School records, medical records, library records, etc. However, while these might be odious and intrusive, none of these are actually unconstitutional, since they all apply in situations where a person arguably has no reasonable expectation of privacy.\n\nThe Patriot Act is like pulling open the curtains in someone's house. Yes, it's a minor invasion of privacy, and it's rude. But it's nowhere near as bad as dozens of other laws that have been passed over the past few years or the past few decades.
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I speak from across the fence on this matter, but I will let you know what I hear most often. The Patriot Act that has broadened the government's ability to seek information from it's fellow citizens has left some more liberal voters upset. They feel that the government's noose of power has grown a bit tighter, and I assume they foresee a future government domination over the people of this nation. I do not know of any firsthand accounts where someone's privacy rights have been infringed upon, or violated. Not that I wish there was, but there doesn't seem to be anyone personally hurt by the Act. Personally, I've felt that as long as man would uphold his responsibilites to treat his fellow man with love, and respect there would be no need for government at all. But we both know that we fail to do this, therefore creating a need for government. So if the privilages we enjoy so dearly seem in danger, I believe it is because of our own faults. I hope that this has been helpful.
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Of course it’s a matter of opinion.  Just this week a law was passed, by the Supreme Court of the U.S.A., that search and enter, bust your door down anytime for any or no reason, without warrant is not only okay (always was). Although now any evidence found, in this what I will call illegal action, is admissible in a court of law. That’s just one example. \nI like the Patriot Act 2 answer- I too hope all know and read the PNAC (project for a new Amerikan century) I couldn't resist the "K".\n\nMy Answer is the Supreme Court of the U.S.A.\n(today)
599108
How about:\nUSA PATRIOT Act, that was certainly controversial.\nH. R. 3162\n\nhttp://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.3162.ENR:\n\nFor research tips:\n\nTHE BEST WAY to research legislative history is to go the Library of Congress. They keep the record of ALL hearings on the bill(both committee and floor) and any statements made by congressmen and any other people that Congress has questioned regarding the bill etc etc etc.\n\nThe website given by previous answerer will help:\nIt is the website of the library of congress:\n\nhttp://thomas.loc.gov\n\nI would also suggest reading this site(it is very helpful):\nhttp://www.llsdc.org/sourcebook/fed-leg-hist.htm\n\nSome trivia:\nSupreme Court Justice Scalia hates legislative history, and considers it not useful.\nHe once was quoted to say something to the tone of:\n"I had to exile my clerk to the dungeon to dig through useless pile of legislative junk"\nSo you are not alone in being frustrated with legislative history.\n\nP.S. I hope you are paid for this thankless task.