OK so my friend won't even listen to a him song and he's saying theyre satanic and he says he loves god too much to listen to them. I told him to listen to vampire heart cus that's one of my favorite songs and he's like Vampires=Satanic. HIM's not satanic are they?? Is hims symbol satanic? my friend's say it is but i really only pay attention to their music...
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I thought HIM was a christian band. Maybe not, I don't know. Besides, vampires aren't necessarily satanic. The vampire lore comes from many different countries, christian or not, and does not really have any specific origins in christian folklore. In fact the vampire myths are so ancient that they surpass christianity in age. So you can tell him that. \nBut I don't think you're going to persuade your friend. No offense but he sounds a bit um...closeminded. And if a band sings about a vampire, that doesn't mean they like vampires either.\nBy the way, I just looked at their website and the symol is very very similar to the satanic symbol, which was stolen from witchcraft by the way. Satanists are so unorginal.\nBut no, the symbol isn't exactly the same, because the top parts don't end in points like they should.\n\nThis is the satanic symbol as it should appear.\nhttp://www.religion-spirituality.org/images/satanismsymbol.gif\n\nSo you see, they are similar, but the one for HIM isn't close enough (for me at least) to consider them satanic.\n\nMy mistake. The orignal one I had a link to was freemason.Oopsy.
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Well something about these quotes really disturbs me...\n\n"Over one million people worship the devil as a religion."  Really?  Prove it.  I want to see where you got your IMPARTIAL information.\n\n"Anyone who does not believe in God is a sinner and rebuked God when they heard the good news."  So this is what you are saying.  Before you tell these people about your god they are safe because your god is not known to them.  If, however; you tell them about your god and they refuse to believe your "good news of the lord" they are condemned to hell.  Why tell them in the first d@amned place then if you know they are going to go to hell for refusing your god!?\n\n"Lives we can never change"....yeah? tell that the people you just condemned to hell for refusing to believe in your god.\n\n..."and we have an understanding of what is good and bad in our conscience."  Well let me see, you just told a bunch of people who were enjoying their lives without your god and who were safe from the wrath of your god until you told them about your god by condemning them to hell for refusing to believe in your god. How is telling people who don't know your god a good thing again please?\n\n"we all have a sense of survivl instinct."  It's spelled S-U-R-V-I-V-A-L, you idiot. \n\n"Yes things in our culture have been disintergrated because of simple minded people not knowing the facts before they say or do things before the think"...welcome to the Disintegration Club, genius.\n\n==============\n\n...and then there's this one...\n\n==============\n\n“HELLO! "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live...."\n\n"I'M NOT SAYING KILL ALL THE WITCHES.....what I AM saying is God does not approve of witchcraft...”  { Rather than me going off here I think I will just dust off something that Fiona Broome wrote and place it here regarding that little statement}: \n\nThou shalt not suffer a witch to live...? \nedited by Fiona Broome\n\nPeople often ask about the famous line in the Bible, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." (Exodus 22:18) \n\nIt's important to do your own research. However, here's what I've found so far: \n\nJames I was notorious for being paranoid about witches, spells, and so on. This was, in part, due to volatile politics of the time. He had good reason to be nervous. \n\n"His" Bible (the King James Bible) was translated to keep Jamie-boy happy, so they translated the word chasaph--which is Hebrew for poisoner (or, in other contexts, herbalist)-- to mean "witch" instead. \n\nThe real Biblical passage was about the disturbing crime of poisoning in the Jewish community. When that line was originally written, there may have been recent poisonings. Some historians point to this. \n\nHere's an early document, written around 1580 at the time of King James I, protesting the translation of chasaph as "witch." \n\n(And when goode King James discovered what Reginald Scot had said in this book, James first wrote his own book, Daemonologie, a rebuttal to Scot's. Then James ordered his men to find every copy of Scot's book and burn them. It \nwas too late. The Scot book was already in its third printing, widely distributed, and nine more chapters had been added.)\n\n  \nFrom The Discoverie of Witchcraft by Reginald Scot. \n  \nBOOKE VI \n  \nChapter I - The exposition of this Hebrue word Chasaph, wherein is answered the objection conteined in Exodus 22. to wit: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live, and of Simon Magus. Acts. 8. \n  \n(page 64) Chaspah, being a Hebrue word, is Latined Veneficium, and  is in English, poisoning, or witchcraft; if you will so have it. The Hebrue sentence written in Exodus, 22. is by the 70. interpretors translated thus \n  into Greeke, [note: I'll fill this in when I have a Greek font and more time], which in Latine is, \n  \n\n  Veneficos (sive) veneficas non
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Eh,I'm a HIM fan but I'm a girl and I'm straight so blah,\nbut seriously get out a bit!!\nI'm sure there's some goth guys who like HIM where you live,\nI know loads but only because I went out loads,\nyou really shouldn't be asking random people on the interent about it..\nxxx
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It is what the souls of the listeners long for! It feeds something in them, as all music does. Just cause of that saying, don't forget that Satan was the chief musician and has almost a monopoly on the music industry, to lead many astray... if possible, even the very elect!
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Well u see the song he says this in the song I Will Follow You Into The Dark"...\n\nHe may want to stand against the notion that "fear is the heart of love," an idea I've never heard from a faithful person, but this song doesn't quite get him there.  I mean he says his sunday school teacher tells him this, but any faithful person will tell  you there is no fear in love..\nYou can't tell from the song that the singer's lover fears death especially. Maybe it's in the singer's reassurance "It's nothing to cry about," but still, seems to me that it's the singer who broached the topic of his lover's death to begin with. \n\nAnd there's never mention of any fear, on the part of the lover, of making that journey alone.\n\nSo which partner can't bear the thought of separation?Perhaps for the singer, if not his Sunday school teachers, love is the heart of fear.
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tell him that you think that god has told miss kitty that to turn towrds that other side just to test him ha ha and see what he says...poor miss kitty is prob sick of your friends crap and is making a voodoo doll with lucinda ha ha :P has he had any pain anywhere lately?? and why did god choose him and this cat??\n\nmaybe the cats into the same music ha ha
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no dude, be creative! that is just a rip off of another band. who wants to listen to a group that couldn't even think of a better band name?! what genre of band are you? give us that, the more help you'll get.
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well evanescence says that they are not a christian band but i seen many saying that they are and some of their songs seem religious to me and to many people they almost got the dove which is given to the best Christians singers but they rejected it.\n\nOK one of their songs is my immortal and it talks about how tired she is ,and she is saying that if u have to leave u should do it, it talks about the pain about the wounds and then she star talking about her Savior and how she always been alone .\n\nOK this is the meaning which i see on this song but i don't know if it was intended to be this way . i think she is talking about the way Jesus felt when he was in the cross . i think the he feel tired and i know that he had also ask Peter to leave if he had to i feel the sadness on this song it talks about the wounds  and if u see the video she has cloths in her hands just like if she was wounded . \n\nso whether or not they are Christians  i don't know but she has also said that if u see an spiritual meaning on her songs she has not problem whit that. the only thing that cannot be denied is that they talk about love .
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nice quote from our pal trent reznor. good news though. it already is considered mythology by intellectual circles. go to any of your good universities and you will find classes- Christian Mythology 101!
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That's crap.  I just listened to that songs really close, and what juicy j says is "producer". I can't understand the woman but I don't hear lucifer at all. People are always looking for something in music.  Elvis was evil in his time, think about it.
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No need to save me, the devil only wanted advice on decorating tips for his dinning room. He's throwing a party for his friends and wants it to the biggest thing since Jesus rose from the dead. Which he is going to be there.. But you didn't hear that from me....Anyway i think there is a little more then just rearranging furniture and painting. He might have a crush on, I think. I'm going to stay in hell for a while longer and see what happens. Oh I got you an invite, so lose those wet noodles and coffee grounds, but bring those fabulous shoes cause we'll be raising hell. But what will I wear? I don't want to ask the devil, i want to impress him, after all, it's not every day the dark lord ask for advice.
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my homie, Satan! he my runnin dog.  what you want with him?  he is kinda bad with the whole legal, politics gig...but he can take their souls if you want.  just give me they names, and ill just jet on over to my homies crib, and let him know.  see if hes got time.  he real good at soul stealing.  \n\njust playin.  sorry dude, but Satan ain't real.  trying to call him would be like writing a letter to Santa or praying to god.  you might as well talk to a brick.
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tuomas rocks.he is an awesome guy and a very good composer. i often cry when i listen to his songs and when i see ppl doing the same[ rarely] i am very happy. i don't understand by this a form of wickness.i mean his lyrics touch our souls the way no1 or almost no1 succeed.\nbut i have read somewhere he isn't in that band..i heard that for my pain asked him to play some songs for them, never heard of him being a part of that band.that i have heard of emppu, not tuomas.
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I don't think he worships the devil. I think he is cool and very talented. I don't know how he does it, but  if we did then almost anybody could. people are afraid of things they don't understand or can't explain. thats probably why they say that.
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No, of course not. I see questions like yours every day or other, and it's just because gothic subculture is something you don't know about. Don't worry about it; there is good and bad in goth, like every subculture everywhere. Here: try visiting net.goth, and click on the column on the left that says 'goth?' for a good explanation. I've answered questions like yours before, and made lists of gothic music and traits. If you look under my Best Answers you can find a lot of information on music goths like and lots of other good stuff. Wish you the best of luck.
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Let me take a moment to go on record as saying that the majority of the responses above more than adequately show the lack of respect and hypocracy that is rampant in the Christian community (see the "Why do Christian's Bash Everyone?" question, where everyone says "we don't bash - other's bash *us*!" mmhmm.)\n\nAnyways, Just to let you know I've seen a steady Satanist community over on beliefnet.  While I may not practice your beliefs (or the Christian's beliefs either) I do respect your right as an individual to believe and practice as you will, to whatever brings joy to your life.\n\nIf everyone could bring an ounce of compassion to thier lives, and perhaps act like civilized human beings (and not a torch wielding mob) the world would be a much safer and happier place.\n\nGood luck in your search :)
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Goths generally like certain kinds of music, but that doesn't mean they hate everything else. I like some kinds of R&B, hip=hop and rap. You've most likely only been exposed to the fakey stuff on the radio. That's not real rap or hip-hop. And it probably isn't the music you hate, it's the ideas; misogyny, violence, materialism, the glorification of poverty and ignorance. Take away these unflattering items and all you have left is a style of singing and musical beats that may or may not be to your liking. Hope that cleared things up! ;)