If Christians believe that when Jesus came the old deal (The Torah or what they say is the old testament) was replaced with the new deal (or new testament) then how do they know for sure that G-d hasn't come up with a new new deal (maybe Islam or something else that they just missed)?
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Lol! I'm Jewish & have been wondering the same thing! G-d says if the sun or moon were to fail; THEN He would violate His covenant with Israel. So, Christian Church...you'd best work on provoking us to jealousy & stop telling us we killed Christ.
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We have heard our whole lives, or as long as we have studied the Bible, that He would not be accepted in his own town.  There is a spiritual reason for this, God allows the Jews to be spiritually blinded so that His prophesies will be fulfilled.  He made the rules and the story is still being told.  Just because he died on the cross 2,000 years ago doesn't mean the story is over.  There are prophecies that still haven't been fulfilled and in the New Testament - Revelations it sais that He has a plan for all of His people, the Jews.  They are a big part of the last book of the Bible.  If you wonder why they simply don't get it, it's because God is in control of His chosen people. You could also ask why some other groups of people don't simply accept Him as their savior, ' believe with your heart, confess with your mouth......... ' it's because there is a super natural (if you will) veil covering their eyes.  God only allows the whole truth to be revealed to His children (the body of Christ).  He chooses whom He will.  You can only come into the body of Christ if you are called.  That's why he told US (His children) to seek and you'll find.  He didn't tell that to the sinners, He told that to the believers.  The Jews have a very important part to play in the end times, after the rapture.
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This question has been asked many times over the centuries. There are some who believe that Christ was pointing the way to a greater knowledge of God, not to Himself as the Savior of mankind. Some Christians have converted to Judaism after having pondered this point.
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I think that nobody really knows, with certainty, what God wants us to do. A good thing would be to pray for guidance and follow your concience. For some reason, I feel that after Jesus came on earth, that we are supposed to follow the New Testament and not the Old Testament. I hope this helps.
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Hollywood intends to re-write history but one only needs to research for themselves the validity of the claims. For example the quality of the New Testament documents can be validated outside of the Bible through the research of Josephus Flavius, Tacitus, Caesar's Gallic Wars, Herodotus, and Thucydides. In fact there are 5366 documents discovered so far to validate that the Bible we have today is 99.5% as accurate as it was way back then. \n\nInternal evidence is pretty clear as well. 2 Peter 3:15-16 clearly states that the canon was already in the process of being collected for what we have today in the Bible. There were gnostic books but they were not accepted because they were written by Hellenistic writers that intended to change the original message of the Greek translation to imply that Jesus was not the Son of God. \n\nSee the sources below for addition research. \n\nSource(s):\n\n"Exploring the Da Vinci Code"\n"Breaking the Da Vinci Code"\n"Is the New Testament Documents Reliable?"\n"The Gospel Code"\n"Hidden Gospels - How the Search for Jesus Lost the Way"\n\nLast this is a personal favorite of mine...\n\n"New Evidence that Demands a Verdict" \n\ngo to any book store and pick them up.
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Interesting question. \n\nOdd, how in the Old Testament that God is portrayed as vengeful and angry, and in the new, he suddenly seems to change his mind...
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They probably belongs to one of these cults that deny the trinity. But\n\n YES, it is in the Old Testament. Genesis 1:1: In the beginning, Elohim created. That is not Yahweh, Elohim is a plurality, meaning more than one. Just like Cherubim and Seraphim, angels. Anything that ends in “im” is more than one.\n\nNow, we know that God the Father was there, and you believed that. But in Genesis 1:2, the Holy Spirit moved upon the face of the waters. Then in Proverbs 30:4, it says, who hath created all the ends of the earth? Who hath created the world? What is God's name and what is His Son's name? That’s not the New Testament, that’s the Hebrew Scriptures. In Isaiah 9:6-7, it says, Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given. And what is the name of this son? The "Mighty God" in the next verse.\n\nYou see this? READ YOUR HEBREW SCRIPTURE, MY FRIEND.\n\n\n\nRapture\n\nThere is no conflict, it’s probably that you do not understand that there are two “appearings”: two comings of Christ - both with an “R”. The first is the “Rapture”. That's when we hear the words, “come up hither” in Revelation 4:1 and we're caught up in the twinkling of an eye, I Corinthians 15:52. The dead in Christ rise first, then we which are alive and remain are caught up with the dead in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, I Thessalonians 4:16.\n\nNow the tribulation hour begins in chapter 6. We're already gone in chapter 4, with the come up hither. We get to verse 12, we have this problem with the sun you mentioned, but that precedes His coming back to earth, the second part of the Second Coming called His “Revelation”, or his revealing on earth. And revelation 6:12 says, “there was a great earthquake and the sun became black as sack cloth of hair and the moon as blood”. You find it again in Joel chapter 2, verses 30 and 31. But Jesus pinpoints the time in Matthew 24:29, immediately after the tribulation of those days, after the 7 years will the sun become darkened and the moon shall not give her light. Then Christ returns with his people for Jude 14 says the lord comes with ten thousands of his saints. You need to study the two “appearings” - the two “comings” of Christ, my friend.\n\nI always remember a child being taught  about the " Rapture" in the Catholic schools, but They called it" being caught up into heaven". Why do our churches seldom mention the event?\n\n Catholic school they taught it as “being caught up”. That is I Thessalonians 4:17. You know, someone said you can't find the word “rapture” in the Bible. But you can in the Catholic Bible, the Latin Vulgate by Saint Jerome. When he gets to I Thessalonians 4:17, he uses the word “rapiamore” – it means raptured – where it says, “caught up” in our English versions.  Why don't more churches do it? They don't study and they don't know what the Bible says. They don't study the catechism – they don’t study the Word of God. God forgive us for that situation. \n\nI believe probably the most obvious would be events that happened in the Old Testament that seem like the Rapture. And, we have some in the Old Testament.\n\n Well not actually what takes place at the Rapture, for then we get brand new bodies, to be like the body of Jesus, I John 3:2-3.\n\nHowever, there were two men in the Old Testament who were snatched up to meet the Lord in the heavenlies. Enoch walked with God, and he was not, for God took him. Now it was a form of the Rapture, but it wasn’t really the Rapture, because he’s on the other side in his old body. It was not changed as he went up. And then in 2 Kings 2:11, Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven, but he’s still there in his body. All the others are there as spirits, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord, 2 Corinthians 5:8. And James teaches us that, chapter 2:27, as the body went out, the spirit is dead, because t
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Well, since the Bible is referenced in historical texts, more than any other book, and the story of Jesus is told in the Bible, I think that is considered historical proof. These stories are not new. The concept of Jesus' existance is harder for the modern day person to believe because we are 2000 years removed from that time. However, several texts, scrolls, letters, etc. were written soon after the death and resurection of Christ. Also, do not forget that zealous Jewish priests were persecuting Christians in order to try and get them to deny the message of Christ. This went on for a long time, and yet, the message has survived until now...2000 years later. Is it possible that it is all made up? I suppose there is no 100% evidence that it existed. But then, can you 100% proove that your great (time 5) grandfather existed? If you never met him and no one alive on this earth ever met him, how can you "proove" he existed. The simple fact is, you can't. But you believe because 1) you have faith. and 2) all the evidence presented supports that he did exist. All the evidence supports the existance of Christ. \n\nI suggest you pick up a copy of the book "The Case for Christ" by Lee Stroble. This presents the stories in a very "judicial" method. Giving the evidence and the opposing sides views and why the evidence supports the message of Christ.
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well, no thought has to go into this, this is historical fact.  Many books were left out of the final book.  The old testament has books like The book of Enoch and there are also later books like the Maccabees I and 2 that are made about a century before christ.  These are called Apocrypha.  There are also many books left out of the new testament or edited in some way, there is the Gospel of Thomas and the Secret Gospel of Marc which is differently edited than the one we currently know.  The problem is, a lot of these books that were taken out of the new testament at least were written many many years after christs death so when the early church created the canon they decided what was most in use and what most applied in terms of creation date.
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No, I don't.  I believe that the book of Revelations was written about politics and events that were current nearly 2,000 years ago and has no relevance today.  I know that various preachers have been predicting the "End Times" for several hundred years and they've all been wrong.\n\nI see reliance on the concept of a "Judgement Day" as a tool for manipulating the masses and a serious cop out (i.e. "The world's a mess but have no fear, Jesus is gonna' come sort the whole nasty business out for us, so just pay your tithe and smile!")\n\nI have yet to see anything positive come out of a belief in Armageddon, just a lot of apathy, war and avoidance of important issues.  So all in all, I think we're better off forgetting about it and working for a better tommorow.
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This is true. :) Matthew (Levi) did [seem to] want to prove to the Jewish that Jesus was actually the Messiah, thus all the Old Testament stuff.\nI would guess an original Hebrew copy cannot be found because of the persecution. The Greek copies were probably made prior to the Hebrew version being destroyed. The copies were likely sent out to others, while the copier, I would imagine kept the original for himself to use. Only specualtion, of course.\n\n***\nOh, and borrowing heavily from Mark? Probably because the gospel was written a time after the events occured. He may have wanted to keep his facts straight. Or it could have been a coincidence, seeing as there were writing about the same thing.
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Judism believes that the Messiah is yet to come.  The scriptures promised that a messiah will come to free the Jews from all oppression. Christians believe that Jesus Christ was (is) the promised messiah.
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obviously some Christians believe that the Bible they hold in their hands wasn't just written by God but was edited and collated by God as well.  apparently some Christians don't know about the Nicene Council and how it decided which gospels were to be put into the Bible, which were to be left out and how the ones that were kept would be revised to ensure power for the elite.  i see Christians saying that they'd not read any newly publicly released gospel because it contradicts the Bible, obviously many failing to understand that the Bible has been rewritten and revised many times to make the text conform to history, religious dogma and "prophesy".   \n\nJesus himself could return and say "but but that's not what I said!  That's not what I meant!"  and the Christians would rebuke him saying that he contradicts the Bible.
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It's a total misinterpretation of 1 Thessalonians.  Christians WILL go through the "Tribulation" - I think it has already begun, to be honest.\n\nThe idea of a "pre-Tribulation Rapture" was unheard of in the writings of the Apostolic Fathers - heck - many of them thought the Diocletian Persecutions and the the persecution of Nero Caesar were pretty much a "tribulation", no?\n\nYou don't see that idea until the 1800's - and now, it's being perpetrated by fictional books like those "Left Behind" novels.\n\nNonsense.
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First off, Hebrews is talking about the Hebrews that were taken out of Egypt and yet with all the evidences of God's working, they rejected Him.  They wandered 40 years in the wilderness for that transgression and was destroyed, not by any doing of the Holy Spirit but by their own hard headedness.  Those that accepted the teachings that were taught, were taken in to the promised land and saved.\n\nThere are many graphs, predictions and surmisings on many things including the Second Coming of Jesus but as Jesus Himself said, nobody knows the day or the hour of the Coming of the Son of Man.\n\nAs for being saved by grace with no law, another of the fallacies that are being taught.  How can you know what is sin if you have no law to compare anything with?  Does grace make the law void?  If you are caught speeding and the cop tells you he will let you off this time but watch your step, that is grace.  So do you peel out of there throwing rocks and dirt at the cops car and him and say there is no law as you got off by grace?  Not on your life!!  You would very carefully pull away, using your signal and all the good things you know to do as you were just saved by grace, not from the law but because of it.  If we are void of any law, we have nothing more but tyranny.  Jesus came not to desroy the law or the prophets but to fulfill all that was revealed by them.  WE are just as hard headed as the Hebrews were back in Moses time so it is really our decisions that push the Holy Ghose away, not any desire of His, and there is no time limit stated anywhere in the bible on how long He will strive with you.
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The Old Testament fortold of Jesus coming, and He did, and He fulfilled the law on behalf of sinful humanity. He died, was buried, and rose again, and said He would return to collect us. He taught His apostles to spread the word of His salvation, and that He alone was the way to God, because He Himself was God-in-the-flesh. \n\nWe believe that Mohammed was a false prophet who conquered people and brought them under His own favorite god, the moon god Allah. The Koran is completely His work, while the Bible is 66 books written by 40 prophets, kings and Apostles, who all agree. The Bible is coherent and expects to be the final revelation until Christ returns. Why? Because Jesus did all that was necessary. There isn't anything left to say or do. \n\nMohammed came along and borrowed a little from the Bible, a little from his culture, and pressured everyone to conform. Islam denies that God can come in the flesh, which is astonishing if you consider who you are talking about. God can do whatever He wants. And He did. Mohammed just denies what Jesus did, denies who the Bible says Jesus is, and does nothing for anyone's soul. \n\nThere are many false religions that claim to be the latest and greatest. I ask you. Who among their proponents have raised themselves from the dead? None. No, Jesus came, and Jesus will come again at the very end. In the interim, a lot of people will claim religious authority. Don't believe them. \n\n"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!" (HOLY BIBLE, Galatians 1:8-9).
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The Old Testament, was transcended by the New Testament.  Hence the terms, old and new.  The Old Testament is about works and law, the New Testament is about grace and mercy.\n\nJesus says he desires mercy, more than sacrifice.\n\nAlso, He states that the 2 "laws" that fulfill all the others are to love the Lord with all the heart, mind, soul, and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself.\n\nThe rest of the ten commandments would most likely be ways we would act in loving our neighbor as ourself.  But it would not be because it was a rule, it would be because of love.\n\nI think because the first "Christians" had no written New Testament, and were Jews, the Old Testament remained as a teaching tool in the services.  Also, they used the OT prophesy to prove to others that Jesus was the Messiah.\n\nAs instruction in the way of life and faith, the teachings of Jesus supercede it, and the study of Jesus teachings alone, are beyond sufficient.