I keep hearing the argument that some illegals pay social security taxes and that they use bogus ss#'s.  It seems like all that would have to match up somehow...
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OMG! I heard on the news that your identity can be used and there is somekind of shadow record for the person using your identity. Apparently it's nearly impossible for a consumer to find out who and how their identity has been used. Only credit companies, I think, and the gov. have access to ALL the files associated with a certain social security number. I think that they said that it would be an invasion of privacy for you to see the other person's records EVEN if it is on your social security number. CRAZY Huh?! it's true too! (*_*)
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As far as taxes, it mostly depends on the employer.  Obviously, most employers retain payroll taxes and send them directly to the government.  The only difference in using a fake SS number is that the worker will never get to claim the social security benefits that he paid.  And someone who doesn't file a tax return simply won't get his refund.  Sen. McCain on the Senate floor today (5/18/06) estimated that illegal workers pay about $8 billion/year in taxes.\n\nAs far as "under the table" jobs where the employer doesn't do payroll taxes properly, Americans who do those jobs also tend not to pay taxes on the money either.  So it's more about the employers and the jobs than about immigrants.
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1. The fact that a huge percentage of illegals are using someones social security #, this creates huge problems for the American that has that number. \nRead the story on the link, how could the officials let this keep going?? And if an American citizen was to use someone elses number it would be considered to be a felony, and we would be sent to prison.\n2. Welfare/ state aid, the money spent on illegals in this area is outrageous....this money could be better spent elsewhere and should be.  Illegals should not be allowed to receive any benefits.
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If the person also gets SSA, one will increase but the other one will decrease to make up for the difference.  I know this sounds insane but that's how Social Security does it, they'll increase SSI and then turn around and decrease SSA, so you end up with no extra money, It sucks but it happens ALL the time.
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Yes. have them look into it. there could be another person with the same name. have them match the SS # to validate the info.
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I totally agree with you! You need a valid SS# to get any kind of  welfare from the government!
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No, it will be pushed aside so the Democrats can use it as a campaign ad in the presidential election. Computers can be traced as you know. How can he be paying taxes if he has no SSI number?
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In Arizona most ,not all of the illegal aliens are paid in cash. That means the illegal and the illegal employer don't pay taxes on anything.The illegal that is paid cash does pay sales tax on anything that he purchases.No the illegals are legally allowed to get benefits but thru the use of forged and /or stolen documents they can and do get them.I personally do not hire any illegal aliens in my business.I cant trace everything I buy all the way thru its entire process to make sure an illegal alien didn't have a hand in it somehow.What has that got to do with the fact that they are illegal?Can you trace everything you buy to make sure that child forced labor wasn't involved at some point in its processing?The fact that the illegals that do pay taxes are paying in one of theses ways,either with a stolen/shared/false/forged social security number .Or working with a TIN# that they pay taxes,I don't have any problem with the fact that they pay some taxes and don't get anything back.First of all they have no legal right \nto work here so why should they be rewarded.\nThe way that a lot of illegals pay for an apartment is that\nmany will band together and stay in the same apt.that makes it possible.If 10 people make $ 5 per hour that turns into $ 50.and hour collectively.If they work 8 hours a day that's $ 400.per day or $2400.per 6 day work week\nSo they can afford to rent,eat,and still send money home.\nHere in Arizona in the areas that they live in no one cares how many are crammed into the over priced dump of an apartment or trailer park.You are very biased and not fully informed on every aspect of the problems with illegal aliens in this country.It has NOTHING to do with what race they are only the fact that there are so many and they are illegal.Dont be so sure that the illegal couldnt be sent back to thier own country.A mass deportation could be done,after all ,the Army can ship hundreds of thousands of men in a matter of days.So if we let the Army take care of it ,yes it could be done.Mass deportation is the first option as far as Im concerned.\nNever say anything cant be done by America\n,we seem to always find a way .Dont we?\nNo Social Security cards to any one thats illegal.\nThe legal American that collects welfare,is legally allowed by law to do so,the illegal alien is not.
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Employers are supposed to withhold taxes from employees if there is a certain amount paid out, and are supposed to pay their own share.\n\nHowever, even when the poor  pay all applicable taxes, they are still subsidized, particularly in education and health care, by the middle class and wealthier taxpayers.  That is why poor immigrant numbers are limited to all countries where services are subsidized.  That is why coming in above the legal rate of immigration is stealing education and health care from our citizens.\n\nThe real facts are available including what illegals pay in to the system.  This is not a novel point, although it is a valid off-set.  Look it up through your browser.
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maybe he'll fess up when all the illegal aliens go back to where they belong\n\nOkay. I'll admit it. I did it. \nBut I wasn't just F-ing around. I was making a point.\n\nLook at how completely freaked out you got just because someone illegally invaded your identity on Answers. You and all of your supporters thought it was just not right for someone to do that...it's against the rules...ooooooohh!\n\nSo, you're concerned with people following the insignificant rules on Yahoo Answers, but to hell with the rules of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.\n\nYou have a problem with someone "impersonating" you but you have no objections to someone stealing and using someone else's SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.\n\nDo you have no logic in that brain of yours?
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Obviously nobody likes identity theft,and equally obviously a great number of people who are bleeding hearts for the illegals turn a blind eye to the fact that a large number of them in fact DO use false papers and stolen identities ... so much for the poor people who only come here to get a better life ... I'd say, I'd have a better life too if I went around and stole other people's identity and ran up huge bills at other people's expense ...
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First of all, I don't think the govt. will pay any monies to its citizens, due to the welfare issue......Trust me, they will find other ways to spend that saved monies.....But you make a great point, MANY MANY Americans move retire to Mexico every year, due to the lower cost of living....I find that hypocritical.....I mean its bad when illegals come here for a better life, but its ok when Americans retire overthere because of the lower cost of living....
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Well it is a small percentage of these people that get paid cash. They use forged social security cards and then get a check and get taxes and social security taken out and they never see any of that. As for property taxes, they do pay since i know personally people that do not have a green card that own houses and pay property tax so don't believe those people who generalize and do not know the facts to say illegals don't pay taxes.\nHow about all those American born people that get paid under the table and don't report that income? Is just an argument xenophobes use against immigrants.
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Helps to pay taxes. Don't you know that Social Security is a tax. It never was a savings plan for old age. Why do you think it can only continue if there are a constant flow of new members. Once the monthly checks are covered, the rest goes into the general tax fund. How can we give congress the good salary & perks if we have to account for every dollar. Bookkeeping cost would be too high & people might wonder what a congressman does for a iving?
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If someone doesn't have a Social Security number (SSN), they can apply for a Individial tax identification number (ITIN) through the IRS.  Only people who are not able to get a SSN would be eligible for the ITIN (i.e. undocumented workers, illegals).  Before my husband got his INS paperwork straightened out (he was illegal), he had an ITIN.  It has the same amount of numbers as a social, but it normally begins with a 9.  This number doesn't mean that you are legally allowed to work, but it allows you to file taxes....I hope this is what you needed.
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Any compamy that has made the news for being fined for having illegal immigrants working for them are on a list beside my computer. If they pay the fines - they have admitted wrong doing.\n\nI don't deal with them and am doing research to find their other fields of business.  They won't get my money so I am not supporting them.
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It's all about the money! They know the people are dead they just want the taxes and they won't have to pay out the SS benefits to the illegal. Keep those tax dollars roll'n in. Try to keep SS afloat. Got to pay for our wars you know. Besides who cares? Most of them work at Taco Bell, KFC, Pizza Hut, and Wal-Mart. ;)