also many legal ones are involved, how does this help the cause. all it will do is piss everyone off and we will losse all kinds of money. what a stupid plan. do you agree or not and why?
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You are right.  It's not going to help.  It's just going to cause some of them to lose their jobs, and some of the businesses to suffer and lose customers because they have to close for the day, or don't get jobs done in time, etc....\nThey shouldn't be punishing the very people who have given them opportunities to work and make money in this country.  They should be THANKING THEM.\nThanks for asking such a good question....
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I think the government is to blame.  If they would enforce the law as it stands, we would not be having these issues.\nNow they want new laws.  If they aren't obeying the current laws, why should they obey new ones?  It just \ndoes not make sense.
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The whole thing is a joke.  Who is going to track them all down?  There will be so many lawsuits, it will be staggering.  "If you have been here this many years you have to do this or that".  That's bull.  They expect them to tell the truth?  They are going to give them social security, even when they stole someones identity.  I really would like to know what the real story is.
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Businesses are the true criminals here. Those who come here illegally to have a better way of life wouldn't come if no one hired them. And no one would hire them if they couldn't do it cheaply and without any insurance. And the illegal immigrants aren't trying to hurt any one but they need a certain amount to live and the businesses just don't pay enough...so the rest of us have to pick up the slack through our taxes while the businesses line their pockets with the profits from the underpaid workers. The only thing we can do is:\n\n1) legislate (yeah, right. like the businesses don't have our government in their pockets.)\n\n2) boycott (Can we really boycott everyone? Nope.)\n\n3) Ignore the problem and hope it doesn't cause the earth to stop spinning and that USA still means the same thing 20 years from now.\n\nHey junior_03yes (BELOW): You must be from California, because there are white farm workers all over this nation...just nut here in CA. You should get yourself an RV and do a little road trip.
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The only people making money on this are the people who put the scheme together.  It's a scam.  Not even a particularly clever scam.  You WILL loose money.  It is also illegal in the US.
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Yes, all intelligent people are already aware of this. There are just too many morons out there who are too boozed up, coked up, or slobbed out in front of the TV to care.\n\nDon't expect an intelligent response in this forum, it is filled with hippies and bums.\n\nIn about 15 years, this is going to be the North American Union, and your guns and rights will be removed by the new socialist order. It's not science fiction, it's spelled out ON THE GOVERMENT'S OWN WEBSITE, YOU FOOLS!!! GO LOOK AND READ IT YOURSELF!!!!\n\nspp.GOV means GOVERNMENT. Yes, GOVERNMENT. This is not an op/ed in the NEW YORK TIMES, it's what GW Bush wants the future of America to be, just like the European Union.\n\nBut you're too coked up and boozed up to care. Go back to sleep, it will all be over soon.
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Legal vs Illegal...penalized or not. What it all comes down to. The good ole boys have moved there factories to Mexico. Its the cost of doing business. We have seen it time and time again. We can have a thousand laws on the books but they will never enforced. Why because its the cost of doing business. We could give things away medical,dental,food stamps, ect...The cost of doing business. Look at the profits of Campbell Soup, Pampers, Hughie's, Proctor and Gamble check the stock market. All the cost of doing business...We have all played a roll. We buy and support these companies....LOL
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i think it's stupid.  if they really go through with it then they would be isolated and i'm sure businesses will decline and people will move out.
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this would be interesting except for your last point.  Look at our system.  We already have one in place and its not working. The Executie Branch has gained a ton of power and the Leg and Jud brances have lost their power.  It's become about helping each other out instead of maintaining balance.  Otherwise your outline exists in Canada.
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The Government is basically saying that it is OK to break the law (come into this country illegally). If it is OK to break laws, why can't I smoke pot in the middle of the street? Why can't I rob a bank, pay taxes on the money and live as a milionnare??? Risk??? No one gets anywhere in life without taking risks. They knew the risks and made their decision. This country is overpopulated as is and services such as Social Security and Welfare are already strapped. I think a lot of politicians voted on this law because they feared losing their housekeepers, gardeners, and nannies. God forbid if these people of privilege actually have to wash a dish, change a diaper, or get their hands dirty pulling weeds.
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It is totaly idiotic. We need to not let our infrastructer be sold off to the highest bidder, especially one with ties to 9/11. The govt. needs to top wasting our time and money in this BS war and use that money to buy back America.
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nah you're cool dude. It's a problem. there are no easy solutions in a country with spineless politicians and a public who are starving for any kind of scandal to criticize them about.. but something serious needs to be done. doors need to be shut, treasuries need to be distributed properly. but then again, benefits are the one thing stopping people from dealing and robbing to survive, so maybe it's good that some benefits are goin that way. besides, a month of war can feed a decade of 13yr old chavette moms and freeloading foreigners. as pathetic as it may seem, there are far worse crimes in politics
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You hit the nail on the head this time.... The legal way....is like playing baseball against a team who cheats, and has all of the umpires paid off, so that you will never win.... the legal way is virtually non existent
505198
its a waste of money, we should get out asap. it is very corrupt and it has done nothing for the united states exept make us look bad and try to make us join the one world government phylosophy that most of europe is taking.
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Sarah is very smart. The idiot above has no answer for what to do with the 12 million that are here.\n\nEnforce the laws? You mean round up 12 million and put them in jail for breaking our law? Idiot.\n\nYou put in place a practical means to keep them working and contributing to society, paying taxes and offering a means to citizenship (which might include a fine) and you also increase border security to stem the problem.\n\nIt infuriates me to listen to these knuckleheads say "send 'em back" or "they broke the law". Like there's a practical means to do something about it. \n\nBunch of racist bigotted idiots who said the same thing to my grandparents when they came over here from Ireland.\n\nYou go Sarah!
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Sounds like every problem of every country,and there are no answers without greed and malaise being removed .why bother with the whole problem when even a small portion cannot be made better.world law on matters of decency is a option,but years away.
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The economy is getting ready to crash.  Congress has enacted several laws in the last couple years that are having a direct effect on our future economy.\n\nIt is now legal to charge nearly 40% interest on credit cards (that used to be called USARY, but now, it's called first step to bankruptcy) Our interest rates have gone through the roof, the fees financial institutions are allowed to charge are breaking us, with the rise in prices for gas, heating & insurance, and the falling home values, there are going to be many, many people out of jobs in the next year.\n\nAnd meanwhile, what are elected officials worrying about?  Crap, gay rights, abortions, their own paychecks, retirements and health care.  Sure as hell not us.\n\nAnd I would hazard a guess that there are very few people who own their homes outright.  In fact, many people owe more for their homes than they can sell them for.\n\nWe are in for a rude awakening my friend.  \n\nWhile we continue to sue and tax American companies out of business, we sit back and wonder where are all the jobs going.  And don't tell me "service industry" that line only works if there are people with money to buy the services.  Here in Metro Detroit and Michigan, even McDonalds is starting to lay off.\n\nAs my company does business with other companies all over the country I can tell you this, we are headed for a serious recession.  Many small industrial companies are teetering on the verge of bankruptcy.  70% of the jobs in this country are directly related to small business.  While our local and state governments give all the tax breaks to the large corporations for the benefit of the unions and their foreign suppliers they now buy from,  the rest of us are drowning and losing our incomes.  Yet our cost of living has shot through the roof.\n\nBelieve me, or not, it's coming and it's going to be as ugly as it was in the early 80's.  History is repeating itself and no one seems to notice.\n\nGood luck to us.