I didn't.  I think that the idea of giving illegal immigrants more rights is just insane, and no matter how much you believe in something, nothing can justify ditching.
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You are right.  But to add to your idea "to give them more rights"... THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  What part of "illegal" don't they (those who are allowing these actions) understand?   I don't get it.  \n\nNo, I didn't walk out. ditching is just wrong. But some weren't raised in America with the same moral upbringing that we were.  I guess we should forgive and be sorry for them and give them money, housing, education to make up for their lack of morals......NOT!
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yes i did..... but for reasons that now have changed..... and.... there are no Way to get back ....to where ..asking any of these questions can be resembling:.. anything.. of value anymore, there just seems to be a injustice to justice!!!!, there more we try to bring corruption down:.. the more it is cost ineffective and threaten our very existence the whole thing becomes global that's what osoma is betting on is how long can we be stupid and ron white says you can't fix stupid....why because nobody votes America is in the hand of a bad system voting won't change anything as long as your stigmatized to death from it your programed to fail that's why I'm deaf and i can say these things cause i escaped that shht, and teach the difference
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No.  And those that do have the most pathetic arguments in support of it.  It's always "compassion." Or they try to tie it to the civil rights movement of the 60.\n\nNEWS FLASH\nIllegals aliens are NOT citizens.  They have only HUMAN rights in the USA.  THAT'S IT.  They have no Constitutionally guaranteed rights.\n\nDeporting them is NOT a civil rights issue.  We have the right to manage our immigration policy however we see fit.\n\nAnd regarding compassion, I have tons of compassion for them.  But we have a country to run, and we can't let people just waltz into the USA.  WE CAN'T ALLOW THEM TO IMPORT POLITICS.  Poor, uneducated, illiterate people tend to like SOCIALISM.  I don't.  I'm not talking about good all american bleeding heart liberalism.  I'm talking about Castro quality SOCIALISM.\n\nAlso, they are massing in the Southwest by the MILLIONS.  Do you realize that the population of TEXAS is 22 million.  And the proposed legislation wants to make 12 million illegals citizens.  And MOST of those are in the southwest.  So, don't you think the people of these states have the right to not get their vote diluted by potential SOCIALISTS.  this is not about race.  I have no problem with people who are here legally.  But when you allow millions of people in, they congregate together and hold the same political leanings (like allegiance to Mexico and socialistic beliefs).  The fact that most can't speak English just strengthens their solidarity and reinforces their beliefs because they can't understand what most Americans are saying.\n\nThis has the makings of ethnic strife written all over it.  Look at Northern Ireland. Iraq. France. Cyprus. Sudan. Turkey AND Iran with the Kurds.  Quebec in France.  There is a clear correlation between ethnic strife when large areas do not integrate into the whole.  this is what will happen if we have entire cities with millions of new non-English speaking spring up in the southwest.  And this will happen if we have an open border.  The 12 million that we're talking about right now is just a start.  What about the next 30 years???\n\nAnd don't be fooled by the "guest worker" program.  They'll still be dirt poor, but "legal."  Then they'll have a basis for petitioning for rights.  They WILL want citizenship EN MASSE.  It will be the exact same situation, but worse since they'll have been INVITED.\n\nPersonally, I'd rather pay a dollar more per pound of oranges, rather than have my kids or grandkids bombed or have to fight a civil war.
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II live in Texas and I feel the same way, that is why I keep writing to the governor of Pennysilvania, asking him to please run for President.  His name is Edward Rendell, and in his state landlords who house these illegals are fined, and the illegals deported.  If there is a second offense the property is taken, and given to the community for low cost housing. \nAny company caught hiring illegals recieves a big fine, and loses their business licenses.  \nAll of the schools are being forced to check the legal status of all of the children, to make sure none are enrolled under stolen identities.  And, he is just now celebrating with his state the largest tax cut ever recorded in the state.  He has taken a hard line when it comes to protecting his people, and this is the kind of president I want.  His people told him that they wanted the illegal Alien laws enforced, and he did it.  He is a real politician for the people, and that is what America needs.  No more candidates telling us they don't care what we want, they have their own agenda, and it does not include the American people.\nI went to every politicians web site that I could find to see what politicians are out there that we as Americans might want as Candidates.  After an exhuasting search, and reading the same crap over and over, I finally came across Mr. Rendell's web site.  I looked over his agenda, and believe me, I haven't seen that kind of interest from a politician in his people since, never actually.  I have heard of them, but I thought they were a myth, like illegals being immigrants.  I've wrote his office to ask him if he is running, and I awaiting his response.  I might not live in his state, but I want him as my next president.  No more Bush's or any of his crooked comrads.
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Why is it that the illegals on this forum don't get it? "This was once,our land, you took it from us, we just want it back."\nGuess what? it is NOT about the land. Has nothing to do with the land. It is about the opportunity that American people have created. I have seen what the "land" looks like across the border and it is not a pretty sight. I have seen the trash heaps that illegals leave behind on their routes to America. Illegals don't care about the land or they wouldn't trash it so.\nWhat you come for is the free stuff. You know that the liberal US government will pay you to have your little anchor babies. They will feed you, educate, medicate, house, and otherwise tend to your every need. The sad thing is you retain an allegiance to a country that won't do these things for you and insult the country that does. Just not very bright are you.
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It was really stupid and started a major backlash that cuts across parties.\n\nHowever, I don't think it was organized by the pro-illegal immigrants.  I think it was organized by the far leftist groups with foreign ties who want open borders so the poor of the world can take over the assets of the richer countries, over time.  Look into it, and form your own opinion.\n\nAs an attempt to sway immigration policy,  it certainly was the wrong way to go.  Prior to the marches far more people polled as being ok with illegal immigrants staying so long as illegal immigration was addressed going forward.  Since then people have looked at statistics and have examined criminal rates and funding for illegal immigrants and have become more polarized.
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Its impossible to send them all back,this is self evident. \nThe rich are getting richer employing illegals. The rich are the ones who contribute to the politicians,so I hope you see this circle.\nMost of our families ancestors came here legally,did the right thing,worked,respected the laws.payed taxes,and in time became citizens.\nWhat we have now ,and not all mind you, are millions not paying taxes,overburdoning our school systems,draining our heath care systems.I have to pay to send my kids to school,ie,, taxes. I have to pay to visit the emergency room if needed. Free clinics I avoid. I know someone who works at the local free clinic,they told me 99% of the people that go there are illegal. They do not use birth control,most have an S.T.D. This in turn is spreading desease throughout our country,increasing the illegal population as a whole.\n I see the protests and demonstrations all over the news. Like it or not,they are trying to take over our country,that is a fact,even waving flags saying, "This is our continent".\nThe government has done nothing for too long,I am afraid it is too late to control.\nOur society is too busy just trying to live day to day to get involved and push the government into real action. The ones who do get involved are just a notch above vigilantes.\nIt bothers me to say it,but I really see nothing short of all American citezens revolting against the government to get something happening.\nOur country is changing,fast,those in charge are selling,and in some cases giving our country away.\nIf you dont believe me,look at the port situation.
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I won't do anything differently. I disagreed with the illegal immigrants before the rally, and I still do now. For anyone who disagrees with the illegals, the best thing you can do is to show that you aren't going to waver your opposition, no matter what PR stunt they pull.
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I will sit back and laugh as the whole thing does nothing and here's why...\n\nFirst of all, do they really think that it will make any difference at all? It won't. In order to actually make a noticible dent in the economy, they would have to hold out a heck of a lot longer than 24 hours...and I just really don't see that happening. Second of all, where do they get off? Nowhere else but in America could someone protest, throw a fit and expect someone to make allowances for the fact that they have, in fact, broken the law. There are legal ways to enter this country, they could have chosen one of them and then there wouldn't be this problem. However, they chose not to obey the laws of this country and, in my opinion, they need to be held accountable for their lawlessness. \n\nIf we allow all these illegal immigrants amnesty, what message does that send to all the immigrants who entered this country legally, who paid their dues and did things according to the rules? Gee, we're sorry we put you through all that because our laws are completely meaningless and we're going to give amnesty to everyone who decided they didn't want to be bothered with the pesky rules? What next, are we going to allow all mass murderers to run free because, hey, if you can break one law, why not all of them. What if all the rapists in every maximum security prison across the country stage a protest demanding their freedom? Why have any rules and laws at all if they can just be arbitrarily changed to exonorate a group of people just because they protest and demand it?
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Supporting the plight of illegal immigrants has nothing to do with caring about our country - how do those two connect?  I care greatly about our country, and I also know that immigrants - both legal and illegal add so much to this country. \n\nWranglergal - by making blanket statements like that, you make yourself look stupid having a different opinion from yours does not make a person ignorant, nor brainwashed.
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Be careful friend. Talk like that in here can get you called a racist. Illegal immigration has ruined the town I've lived in most of my life. We can't even take care of our own in this country, but we are supposed to give everything we have to the illegals? We have no health care for so many here, too many are homeless and/or unemployed. All I can really say is would you feed your last bit of food to a stranger and let your kids go hungry?
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I agree.  The idea that you can drive over the border for a visit and then stay for a couple of days and have your baby here free, because they can't refuse them medical help, then they get free food stamps and everything else that goes along with it.  I have mexican friends who are legal here and they say that the ones who come in illegally know all the tricks to get money from the government that we who live here know nothing about.  Their friends show them the ropes.  This is wrong.  CHANGE Mexico first.  It is a great country with lots of resources but a corrupt government.  The people have to change it there first.  We are overrun with illegals here in TEXAS.
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You might have a point. He is against Mexicans, I cannot imagine what would have made him that way, but for me, there are no excuses for that. He needs to get a life and not be so closed minded!
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I think everyone who is already over here with children who are US born should have an opportunity to get their citizenship.  Why illegals want to continue to be second class is beyond me.  Get your citizenship and learn English,  then you'll have the grounds to demand things like better jobs and fair pay.  You are only being taken advantage of as you are.  You are shooting yourselves in the foot with the amnesty BS.  I also think if you are here illegally and have committed a crime, you forfeit the chance to be a citizen and should be deported immediately.  Not all anti-illegals are out to get you. We are hoping to find a better, legal system  for you to immigrate so you can truly grasp what America has to offer.  Something besides a broom handle or a shovel so we can stop paying for everything and have more respect for you.
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I agree. I understand that sometimes people who have no recourse are forced to protest and demand a change in the system. As a previous participant pointed out...women getting the vote and African Americans gaining their freedom from slavery. \n\nHowever, in both of those cases, there are glaring differences from the issue at hand. In the case of women voting...women were citizens of the United States who had no other recourse. It wasn't as though women could vote IF they filled out the proper paperwork and follwed the established laws that would allow them to do so. They couldn't vote at all. Illegal immigrants have legal recourse to establish legal residency or permanent citizenship in the United States. They're protesting for something that they can already acheive should they choose to do so, they simply don't want to be bothered with following the proper procedure. In the case of slaves...they were brought here against their will, stolen from their homeland and sold like animals. It was an inhumane and unfair institution and one that needed to end. These were people in the United States against their will and with no legal recourse to remedy their situation. Again, illegal immigrants did have the opportunity to obtain legal residency and/or citizenship should they have chosen to do so. Instead they chose not to be bothered with the proper procedure and now want to protest for amnesty. \n\nI might understand and actually support their cause if there were not procedures in place for them to come here legally. As it is, I can't support the cause of a group of people who are basically saying "I want to be protected by the laws of the United States even though in the past I have shown no regard or respect for them as I chose to enter this country illegally." Sorry, that's not how it works, you don't get to pick and choose what laws you want to follow and which ones you don't. You don't get to break the laws you don't agree with and still expect to reap the benefits of being a law abiding resident of the United States.
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never could've said it better.\n\nmy family and i are immigrants, too, but we all came here with appropriate visas - we didn't cross borders, climb fences, or swim across channels...we worked here with appropriate documentation/work permits, paid taxes, and did not misuse the benefits system...that's why i take the same stance and feel very strongly against illegal immigration.
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Why Oh Why! do so many people come up with these asinine, inane, and totally ludicrous scenarios to justify illegal immigration. You are making a comparison where there is absolutely no correlation between the two situations. Remember it is ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION that this country has a problem with.