I keep hearing that you are after illegals.  Do you have any idea what the policy implications would be.  You can beef up boarder security, but how do you find the illegal aliens that are already here. It would be impossible, or just as expensive as the war on drugs and we all know how thats going.  Are we gonna have commercials. "Illegal immigration Kills". Yeah, Nancy (Reagan) can sponsor it.  Its a shock to me also that you tight wad Republicans want to spend the kind of money it would take to get rid of illegal aliens, but dont mind cutting social security benefits. You have some very twisted priorities.
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There are too many to deport, so someone needs to figure out a way to make these illegal immigrants already here legal so that they can start paying taxes and contributing to the American system of welfare, free healthcare for those how can't pay, etc. Also, a better job needs to be done at the borders to limit more illegal entry.
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Yeah, I already knew this before the video.  Any non-illegals that marched are just sheep that dont understand the issue at all.  Its time to get all the Illegals sent home.  Legals are great, but our social structure cannot handle this flood of illegals.  Some good news- the INS just arrewsted 70 illegals from a single builder in the Cincinnati area yesterday, and they say that more arrests are coming at other builders shortly.  They also arrested a number of the Americans that hired them, and raided the coirporate HQ to get the financial records.  Hopefully they step up this initiative nationally, and really start throwing them out.
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unwanted immigration is different than illegal immigration. i assume you are trying to defend the hispanics crossing the border. i have no problem with them crossing the border as long as they pay taxes too. they recieve healthcare, education, and even social security - but pay nothing into the system. THERES A REASON WERE 7 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT (other than the war). we should consider a high sales tax and no income tax - that way everybody is paying, and based on how much they spend too.
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It may sound cruel but all benefits must be stopped to the illegals. Period. That goes for the children they have too. If we can get the guts to deny them it is possible they will leave. I think I read where Texas is sending a bill to Mexico for services to the illegals.  That is a great idea.  Hold Mexican assets and take the cost of services to their citizens. Mexico would then do something about the boarder.
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Don't even get me started.  I have so many problems with the immigration problem in the US I am not even sure where to begin.  The bottom line is that we spend billions on social welfare programs for people that contribute nothing more to this country than provide cheap labor.  I don't think it is unreasonable to ask that these folks go thru the legal immigration progress, and then become a productive "tax paying" citizen.
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I guess knowing that all the Neo Nazis are part of your party. The Republicans have exposed themselves and their true agenda and views to America. Racism is alive and well in the Far right of your NEO_CON Nation. Bush letting the illegals get out of control in America is back-firing on him, so I look for your approval rate to go even lower. He's going to have to do something about Republican policy that doesn't work. So if there is an Apocalypse, friendly fire will most likely go towards the Republicans. To rid America of this plague.
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I found this and thought it was worth sharing.\n\nA retired border patrol agent shows some common sense. \n\nThis letter sent to Tennessee Senator Bill Frist from a retired border patrol agent, and it has more common sense than all the bull being spewed from the Senate, with the exception of a few sensible representatives. \n\nDear Senator Frist: \n\nThere is a huge amount of propaganda and myths circulating about illegal aliens, particularly illegal Mexican, Salvadorian, Guatemalan and Honduran \naliens. \n#1. Illegal aliens generally do NOT want U.S. citizenship. Americans are very vain thinking that everybody in the world wants to be a U.S. citizen. Mexicans, and other nationalities want to remain citizens of their home \ncountries while obtaining the benefits offered by the United States such as employment, medical care, in-state tuition, government subsidized housing and free education for their offspring. Their main attraction is employment \nand their loyalty usually remains at home. They want benefits earned and subsidized by middle class Americans. What illegal aliens want are benefits of American residence without paying the price. \n\n#2. There are no jobs that Americans won't do. Illegal aliens are doing jobs that Americans can't take and still support their families. Illegal aliens take low wage jobs, live dozens in a single residence home, share expenses \nand send money to their home country. There are no jobs that Americans won't do for a decent wage. \n\n#3. Every person who illegally entered this nation left a home. They are NOT homeless and they are NOT Americans. Some left jobs in their home countries. They come to send money to their real home as evidenced by the more than 20 \nbillion dollars sent out of the country each year by illegal aliens. These illegal aliens knowingly and willfully entered this nation in violation of the law and therefore assumed the risk of detection and deportation. Those who brought their alien children assumed the responsibility and risk on behalf of their children. \n\n#4. Illegal aliens are NOT critical to the economy. Illegal aliens constitute less than 5% of the workforce. However, they reduce wages and benefits for lawful U.S. residents. \n\n#5. This is NOT an immigrant nation. There are 280 million native born Americans. While it is true that this nation was settled and founded by immigrants (legal immigrants), it is also true that there is not a nation on this planet that was not settled by immigrants at one time or another. \n\n#6. The United States is welcome to legal immigrants. Illegal aliens are not immigrants by definition. The U.S. accepts more lawful immigrants every year than the rest of the world combined. \n\n#7. There is no such thing as the "Hispanic vote". Hispanics are white, brown, black and every shade in between. Hispanics are Republicans, Democrats, Anarchists, Communists, Marxists and Independents. The so-called "Hispanic vote" is a myth. Pandering to illegal aliens to get the Hispanic vote is a dead end. \n\n#8. Mexico is NOT a friend of the United States. Since 1848 Mexicans have resented the United States. During World War I Mexico allowed German Spies to operate freely in Mexico to spy on the U.S. During World War II. Mexico allowed the Axis powers to spy on the U.S. from Mexico. During the Cold War Mexico allowed spies hostile to the U.S. to operate freely. The attack on the Twin Towers in 2001 was cheered and applauded all across Mexico. Today Mexican school children are taught that the U.S. stole California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. If you don't believe it, check out some Mexican textbooks written for their schoolchildren. \n\n#9. Although some illegal aliens enter this country for a better life, there are 6 billion people on this planet. At least 1 billion of those live on less than one dollar a day. If wanting a better life is a valid excuse to \nbreak the law and sneak into America, then let's al
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obeirn1:  Fianlly someone with a brain on here.  I agree with you 100%.  Here is the trouble with this immigration debate, to much prejudices, and racisits trying to run the country.  Also some of these "haters" as I have so affectionatly called them, tend to go with what the neighbor says without investingating things themselves.  Like most things, when people jump to conclusions, this whole thing will turn out to blow up in the "haters" face.  People dont realize that it is not just "Mexicans" here illegally, and if you look at the problem more, you will se that it is actually our own Governement (INS policies) that prohibit the majority of these hispanics from gaining papers.  Look at it from their side, if your kids were starving would you not do what you had to do to feed them?  Now if you cant afford food, how on earth are you to afford thousands of dollars for papers, when the wages in countries like Mexico are 5 bucks a week....people just think they know all when they refuse to see the tarnish on the coin.  ~~To answer the question, I am ashamed that as a whole, americans think they are somehow better than the rest of the world!~~
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I think I like this kind of talk\nBottom line: The issue may come down to what one veteran pollster called "sequencing" -- where voters want the government to demonstrate that it's serious about reducing illegal immigration before legalizing 12 million people. That would mean first controlling the border and creating a tamper-proof citizenship card so that employers who hire illegal workers can be prosecuted then assembling a legalization plan.  \n\nI could definitely live with this.Thanks for the great information\nIn the words of that great sage Yogi Berra(not sure of the spelling)\n"It ain't over till its over"
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I'd rather see no bill at all than the Senate bill.  They snuck in a rolling amnesty in a 10 year statute of limitations which would say that anyone who can get here and hide out for 10 years (or forge papers saying they have) will have amnesty. That treats the offense as just 'passing the border' rather than the ongoing pilfering of services they are not entitled to.\n\nIt is dishonest because there was this huge public debate on the amnesty about '5 years' and '2 to 5 years' and 'less than 2 years' yet they sneak this in with no discussion at all.  The Senate bill also gives social security benefits to people who STOLE social security card numbers from others. Any of us who did that would go to jail, not profit from the crime!\n\nI can't even get into all the problems.  The cumulative numbers of amnesty, the 1.5 million person annual agriculture guest worker program and the 200,000 other unskilled guest worker program, when multiplied by the ability to bring in their families has been calculated to add up to an additional 185 to 217 million poor immigrants in the next 20 years ABOVE our current rates and ABOVE illegals currently here.  That is about a 60% increase in the population of the United States.  They put in a cap on how many of those can be made permanent residents in a single year, but all of them and their families would be here using services.\n\nI want them to solve the hard problems, but ONLY if they do it right. \n\nI'd be ok with border security only, then let's figure out the rest.  If the Senate is really not just holding border security hostage for their own pet slave labor program, they should have to approve that sort of law.\n\nComprehensive isn't good if the law sucks.
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Too sad.... and the National Immigration Law Center (NILC) is quite proud of the fact that they have netted both legal and illegal aliens more than $800 million in food stamps, plus 12 billion in Supplemental Security Income.  How about stopping all this nonsense....what the heck is a wall going to do if it's clearly so rewarding to be here?\n\nFurther to whom it may concern- I realize some of you pro-illegals are quite unfamiliar with actual research and watching the news, but Americans for Legal Immigration is a PAC-or Political Action Committee. Meaning they are heavily involved in politics and quite well-known. Perhaps if you'd picked up a government textbook once in awhile, you'd know that.
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The border policy is bull. And honestly, it's in the news and all, but the people I talk to in Southern California.. we don't care! It's just the media hype making it out to be a bigger deal than it is (I hope). To get a little stereotypical, what would we possibly do without Mexicans?? Honestly, who would cook, clean, cut grass, wash the dishes, and do all the other jobs that nobody else wants?? And they are not stealing our jobs, because nobody wants them! And if a Mexican is smart enough to compete with us for jobs (not saying they aren't, many many are!) then that is great! Who are we to decide who gets what? Honestly, the crimes that some of them commit aren't enough to deport an entire group of people. And finally, for the kicker.. WE ALL ENTERED THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY! I hate that argument, but honestly, it is true.
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Let me see if I have this right...\n\nYou want to address the complicated moral, ethical, and legal issues of illegal immigration, but you don't even have the intellectual wherewithal to handle a simple, hum-drum, run-of-the-mill, garden-variety social crime?  WOW!...\n\nMy apologies,... but it did catch me somewhat off-guard...;)\n\np.s.  jmdavis333, My answer was a little harsh, I admit that, but at least it made a point.  Your answer, however, is just mean-spirited.  She's already fighting an uphill battle on her  'immigration' rants as it is so please, as a matter of fairness and civility, either make a point with your posts or don't post at all.
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If you are suggesting that building a wall is ridiculous, I agree with you.  That proposal is impractical and only serves to fuel the arguments of advocates for illegal immigration like yourself.  It's an argument that confuses a very simple issue, with a very simple solution.  Illegal immigration would cease to be a problem if employers were heavily fined and jailed for hiring illegals.  That's why illegals are here.  Employers increase their profits by hiring them and the government lets them get away with it.  No jobs, no illegals.  When the jobs dry up, these illegals will return to their country on their own, and there will be no point in others coming because the incentive would be gone.  The few illegals that might remain here after these measures are enacted, would be here only to try to milk our welfare system, but that could easily be handled by making it a felony to do that.  Most of them would decide to leave and those who didn't would be thrown in jail and then deported.  End of problem.  No need for a wall or troops.  No more ammunition to fuel silly arguments from apologists for illegals.
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I'm with you.  I just can't understand why this is allowed to happen.  I just keep asking, "what part of illegal are they having trouble with"?  And as far as the government is concerned, what can I say?  The whole thing just frosts me.  I almost never vote for an incumbent and after this I may remove the word "almost" from that statement.\n\nI'm sure you understand that if we legalize all of them right now, it will only lead to more illegals entering to take the $.50 an hour jobs these folks will no longer qualify for.  \n\nI give up.  I am so flustered I can't even make sense of my own thoughts.
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Our Senators said F.U. the American people.  I so agree with Godzilla.  Also think about this, how many more illegal women are thinking of getting knocked up while here as a guest worker.  They are supposed to go home after two years,  how are we going to make them go home if they have a bunch of American kids? We need to revoke that privilege if we are to curtail further illegal immigration. If an illegal alien has a child here, that child should be the nationality of the mother's home country.   They may start to think twice about coming here if we do that in conjunction with tighter security at the border, and making it a felony for an employer to knowingly hire illegals. We can't just have more border patrol agents because guess what, the word has already gone to Mexico and even more are going to come storm our border to nullify to new additions to the B.P.  What do we do now?
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It wouldn't cost billions. If they secured the border, put the employer databases and employee ID into place (so employer penalties were enforceable) and enforced existing laws, there would be attrition. It would certainly not get all, and frankly, I think over time the American people wouldn't stand for all the hard luck stories that would come out of it about people who have lived here a decade and have had children here being deported.  People are steeled for it now because the state of our border is scary and people are literally reacting as if we are in a war.  (I know someone is going to say we are in a war on terror, but that isn't quite what I meant.)\n\nWe need to close our border.  Right now border security is being held hostage for Big Business's desire for a slave labor program going forward, but the longer nothing happens for real border security, the more inflexible people are in discussing the other issues.\n\nIf the family reunification privilege which gives legals the ability to also bring in family were removed from the bill, and we were actually talking about legalizing the people here (rather than 6 times that number), and if the 10 year statute of limitations that provides automatic amnesty for anyone here for 10 years were removed,  I'd go for legalization of all but undesirables.  BUT I'd only go for that if the border were TRULY being secured.  \n\nI don't know if anything will come out of conference though, and I agree that no Bill at all is better than the Senate Bill.