scripture won't help me and believe me it won't..\ni got bad footing right now..can somebody try to convince me not to be luciferian? i have been taught that the christian god and lucifer are equal.. but lucifer is good and that the other god treated him unjust.. im telling you scripture won't help!! be cuz i have been taugt against the bible with the bible
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No amount of me telling you what is and what not ain't gonna convince you,The fact that u r asking this question is because deep down you know u r wrong,The christian God as u put it, and satan r not equal and whomever came up with the idea you being taught against the bible with the bible is really cunning must be the devil himself,Let me tell you what my God give me that no demon in hell can give you peace.God treated lucifer unjust r u kidding me? God could have killed him he should have, but look around you all the wickedness thats happening the Devil is very well in charge.Do you know your lucifer talk to God see in Job when God said to him have u considered my son Job he said To God do u think job serve u for nothing meaning the omly reason y job serve God is because he was rich God said to him take all he has Job stayed true to God anyways your devil is gonna burn in hell along with anyone who serve him, you can prove God for yourself just talk to him.Say if u r really up there do something to let me know u r real
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Good questions!  I like good subjest matter.  God is not some bug eyed monster up in the sky.  Why would he be all hateful when he needs us as much as we need him?  We do have free will, and i can do whatever i want because of it, but heres the rub, i was created by something with a view of the bigger picture.  So by virture of where i was born and my personality there are huge sections of human reality that will never even occur to me to do because of who and what i was made to be. Example : kiss my boyfriend, you betcha!; eat chocolate covered ants, hell no!
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You've stated just a few reasons why I ended up asking the question, "Is it possible that the Christian God and the Muslim God(Yahweh and Allah) are the same entity as Satan? The character flaws exhibited by the religious "good gods" can be lined up point for point with the understood character flaws of "Satan". One of the most sadistic stories I've ever read has got to be the story of God telling Abraham to sacrifice his own son and then, "Oh, sorry just testing". You don't get any more cruel or mind-controlling than that.
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The ignorance and utter cluelessness of some of the people responding to this question is absolutely amazing. For one thing, I've noticed that Jehovah's Witnesses' teachings can be backed up completely by the Bible, whether I use my King James Version or read through their New World Translation. \n\nTheir activity of going from door-to-door in talking to other people about the good news of God's Kingdom and what it will do for mankind is A COMMAND FROM CHRIST to true Christians. How many of you nutcases, and I'm speaking of FairyNanook, Jeffo, and Tabi, obey Jesus' command to go and preach to people? I bet not a single one of you, and I bet none of your churches teach that it's necessary, either. \n\nI found the fact that FairyNanook and Tabi made such ignorant and blatantly stupid comments against the activity of the Jehovah's Witnesses to be highly offensive, as I also find it offensive that they call themselves Christians. \n\nJesus Christ himself taught people about God's Kingdom and he showed them on a very small scale by his miraculous healings and the truths that he taught that it is God's Kingdom that will bring an end, very shortly, to the painful suffering of people today. How exactly is it wrong, Tabi, that Jehovah's Witnesses do the same thing? They help people to see the benefits that are soon to come to this earth when things like AIDS (as you mentioned) are wiped out forever? What exactly is so awful that the Witnesses teach people that the Kingdom will do this? \n\nMy goodness, you people really need a clue. "Only saved by Grace".....sure, that's a teaching in a Christian church, but certainly not a TRUE Christian church. Try calling yourself a Christian when you actually start obeying Christ by preaching to others.\n\n----------------------------------------\n\nLooks to me like FairyNanook isn't very Bible-smart. Here, you go Oh Very Spiritually Blind One: "Indeed, as the body without spirit is dead, so also FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD." (James 2:26) You can claim to have all the faith in the world, honey, but without the works to back up those claims, you're just talking into the wind. And while you're at it, I suggest you review the preaching assignment that Christ commanded his followers to engage in. The example was that they were to town to town, village to village, and DOOR TO DOOR. \n\nAnd doing so "for points"? Where in the world did you get that nonsense from? Jehovah's Witnesses do what they out of obedience to Jesus Christ, for one thing. They do it out of love for neighbor for another, and they do it because if they didn't, they would be considered bloodguilty before God. Your thoughts are seriously out of whack and you should be very concerned with the amount of ignorance you display here. \n\nIf you can't recognize that, then YOUR entire way of thinking is what is truly twisted and in deep error. I'm sure you think you teach or know truth, but honey, by your very own words, you're admitting to being one of Satan's blinded drones.\n\n-------------------------------------------------\n\nFinally! She admits that she doesn't have the slightest idea what she's talking about. She's happy to be blinded to the truths that are so clearly brought out in God's Word, the Bible. Perhaps we should all pray that her lack of spiritual understanding and her veil of Biblical ignorance be lifted, as what she thinks she knows now is only doing her more harm than anything else. \n\nAnd if anyone wants ACCURATE and TRUTHFUL information on what Jehovah's Witnesses teach and why......you would wisely steer clear of the trash sites she listed and go right to the official source:\n\n-------------------------------------------------\n\nThe ridiculousness of your comments, honey, is a very clear admission on your part (whether you think so or not). \n\n"Going to the Watchtower website wi
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Well, personally I don't believe in good and evil or a "good" god and an "evil" god. If there is "one" god then everything came into existence because of it, not only "good" also "evil". \n\nThe devil to me is a mythical character and even in Judaism he has no freewill, so what will be the point to worship it? I believe there are forces of creation and forces of destruction (call it gods if you will) maybe they are all manifestations of the highest "Mind of Creation" (all manifestations of "one" God or Godess).\n\nMaybe Christians needed someone to blame all the “bad” things on and so created this “Devil” guy. I think it is a bit far fetched and only makes their god look like a weakling that can’t manage his own creation. That is why I think their god is a fake.
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Awesome question Ryan! The unhypocritical answer is, "yes". Who are we to say who God talks to and who He doesn't? Afterall, if one of your buddies told you today that God spoke to Him in a burning bush, the Bible suggest that you may want to take his word for it.\n\nThis is a major problem with the Bible, and one of the reasons it is becoming increasingly difficult for me to believe everything in it. Me personally, I wouldn't kill if I thought God asked me to because I don't believe God is a killer but rather I think he is a creator. I could be wrong, but I'll take the chance.\n\nAndrea Yates said God told her to kill her children. In fact, she was quite the Christian, as was the young women who sawed off her 3 month old's arms stating God told her to do it. How do we know, considering that God commanded parents to kill their children numerous times in the Bible?
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Read the book of Job. It is Satan trying to make you give up on Christ. Have faith. Remember the mustard seed. If you have faith, it is only faith when tested. You are going through a period of darkness. Remember Jesus was our example and he too allowed himself a period to go out to the dessert to increase and test his faith. He was tempted by Satan but he used scripture to get him through. Surround yourself with good spiritual support persons. Lean on others when you are not strong. Remember that when you can't walk in the spirit God is carrying you, trust.
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maybe it is Lucifer himself his name alone represents 666  however i check on it and will edit later if i find out any different or that it is Lucifer himself for sure (calling pastor)\n\npastor not home but talked to others and they say its lucifer, at least in his own mind cause hes already been defeated. will continue to try the pastor to make sure  and to the post above two of those in the end were just men and are insignifagent to the question\n\nare you studing revalations\n\nmabe it could allso be the whore of babylon
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I'm not sure how I'm gonna answer this, but here goes.\nLet's see: God created Lucifer (now known as Satan) as His second in command. Lucifer then saw how much better than all the other angels he was and thought to himself, "If I'm so much better than them, why can't I be better than God himself?" No one knows where this thought came from, seeing how God only makes perfect creations. The only logical place that it could have came from is freedom of choice that God gave them when He created the Angels. This freedom also explains why 1/3 of the Angels chose to follow Lucifer in his rebellion against God. After Lucifer and his demons (fallen angels) were cast out of Heaven, God seperated His angels so far away from Lucifer's that the demons know that they can never get back. Lucifer is free to come and go as he pleases in God's throneroom (as evidenced in the first chapter of Job), but he can never return to what he once was. This fact has angered him so much over the millenia that he's esentially declared war on humanity, God's most prized creation. The first battle in this war was waged on the day of Adam and Eve's temptation and fall away from God when Satan successfully decieved them to eat of the tree that God explicitly said not to eat from. The victory was prophesied not even a day later when the Spirit of the Lord walked through the Garden looking for Adam and Eve to felowship with them as He normally did, only to find them hiding from them, dressed in fig leaves. God asked them why they were ashamed of themselves, and then they went through the whole "it's his/her fault" routine, blaming each other for what one did. When the truth finally did come out (not like God didn't already know), God pronounced consequences on humanity (a series of hardships which can be read in Genesis 3), and cursed the serpent (as this was the creature Satan used to decieve Adam and Eve). The curse on the serpent also held hope for the redemption of Mankind, as it fortold of the defeat of Satan through the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ. The war was over before it begun! \n\nSo, to answer your question: Yes, Satan invented the concept of sin. He then successfully marketed this concept to himself, his demons, and ultimately to humanity. He even tried to get Jesus to sin, but since Jesus is God in the flesh (and God is perfect), he couldn't do it. Jesus was the only man who ever lived here on earth that lead a perfect life, one completely without sinning.
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In my opinion, "evil" is "self-contradiction."\n\nAlthough bible matter doesn't say this explicitly, I do believe it's the gist of thought all through its contents.
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Dear Friend,\n   You are dealing with demons.  It is a very real problem, and you should NOT try to face it alone! When I was younger, I was involved in minor occult activities, without recognizing the diabolical source of this activity. Strange, scary things began to happen to me at night when I was trying to sleep.  At one time, I cried out, "Jesus help me!," and I felt a hard hit on the top of my head, as if someone were slapping the very top of my head, but then no more problems, and I was able to rest peacefully.  I thanked God for His immediate answer to my prayer, and I began to seek Him with increasing seriousness and urgency.  I eliminated ALL possible occult connections, because I realized that Satan was behind these.  If you tinker with these things, you are inviting evil into your life (although you may not be aware of it).  Since making these changes, I have had no more problems.\n     When I was in law school several years ago, one of my classmates who was Hmong, was very fearful of this phenomena (shadow people).  His religion was multi-theistic/spiritist.  This religion recognized evil spirits that tormented people at night (they believed that these things were "ghosts");  however, the people following this religion did not understand that God alone is strong enough to handle this problem.  My classmate had claimed to have been bothered at night by these "shadow people."  He actually died in his sleep a few months after our graduation (he was in his early 20's).  Medical doctors were unable to identify a cause of death, but his relatives insisted that it was the evil spirits, who had "taken" his soul during the night.   \n     Do you own a Oiuja board?  Tarot Cards or other fortune telling devices?  Have you ever sought the advice of a fortune teller?  Have you ever been involved in any occult activities (including witchcraft, mediums, communication with "the dead")?  Do you have any objects in your home that might be associated with demons, witchcraft, or the occult (even "souvenirs" from possible occult/voodoo sources)?  Do you have any friends who might be involved in this?  If so, REMOVE these items/activities from you life IMMEDIATELY, and seek help from Jesus Christ.  You need power that only God and Jesus Christ can provide.  Seek the Lord earnestly through prayers, and through a prayerful, thorough search of the Bible (NOT exorcism, or other human devices).         \n     Please don't try to deal with this problem alone.  It is real, but no human being is strong enough to handle it without the power of God.  You need Jesus Christ.  If you call on Him, He will hear and deliver you.  Seek Him with all your heart and mind.  You will receive His peace, His power, and His protection.  Shalom to you, friend!!!
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Satan isn't really one single being in the bible. Like black_hole_gravity said, it means "adversary" and it's more of a title than a name. Although Lucifer still is a villain in christian mythology. He did rebel against god in the story.
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Copy Paste and send to Priestess! I'm still rolling! This has to be the best I've seen so far!!!\nGood luck on getting a real answer outta them.\n"Well times have changed, and God doesn't allow that kinda thing anymore."
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Interesting theory....I'm not sure how well that's going to work for you, especially because so many people see so many things in the bible differently.  If you do find something let me know though, like I said, sounds interesting.
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He said -\n"I form light and create darkness, I make weal and create woe;\n I the Lord do all these things" \n\nHaving the word "evil" ....this is often mistranslated in English Bibles, but in the Hebrew it is absolutely unmistakable. \n\nCan you explain what you mean by "evil" and what God meant by "evil"???????????? \n\nYou can't question God!!!!! nor his word!!!!\n\nAnyway don't forget that God can make woe for the evil people. However I'm sure he won't do that. He is a loving father to all of us even through we doubt Him and try to find faults with God, His word and His creation.
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Wow, you need to go to a religious chat room!! I am a Christian, but goodness me, I did not want to read a sermon! I read my Bible so I know about it. Where is the question? And satan does not control any "rolls" in my life. Jesus lives in my heart. By the by, learn to spell and quit preaching to us!!
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it is you should buy the satanic bible. i just got it and it has opened me up to so much more you don't have to believe in every thing that is in it you can kinda just mix and much your own religion.\ngood luck