they told on lou dobbs that mexico has a constitutional condition that will not allow anybody else to became a mexican citizen unless they are born in that country,even if you have mexican parents and are born outside of mexico.. do you think this is a double standard?
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yes i think it is a double standard. It just shows that Mexico is worse on immigration then the US but they want every country to allow what they do not allow. they are a bunch of hypocrites
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From the other side of the fence..... \n\n\nReceived from (Tom O'Malley) who was a Director with SW BELL in Mexico City: \n\n\nI spent five years working in Mexico. \n\nI worked under a tourist Visa for three months and could legally renew it for three more months. After that you were working Illegally. I was technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval. \n\nDuring that six months our Mexican and US Attorneys were working to secure a permanent work visa called a FM3. It was in addition to my US passport that I had to show each time I entered and left the country. Barbara's was the \nsame except hers did not permit her to work. \n\nTo apply for the FM3 I needed to submit the following notarized originals (not copies) of my: \n\n1. Birth certificate for Barbara and I. \n\n2. Marriage certificate. \n\n3. High school transcripts and proof of graduation. \n\n4. College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of graduation. \n\n5. Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for at least one year. \n\n6. A letter from The ST. Louis Chief of Police indication I had no arrest record in the US and no outstanding warrants and was "a citizen in good standing." \n\n7. Finally; I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated why there was no Mexican Citizen with my skills and why my skills were important to Mexico. We called it our "I am the greatest person on Earth" letter. It was fun to write. \n\nAll of the above were in English that had to be translated into Spanish and be certified as legal translations and our signatures notarized. It produced a folder a bout 1.5 inches thick with English on the left side and Spanish on \nthe right. \n\nOnce they were completed Barbara and I spent about five hours accompanied by a Mexican Attorney touring Mexican Government office locations and being photographed and fingerprinted at least three times. At each location and we \nremember at least four locations we instructed on Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that we were required to obey their laws or face the consequences. We could not protest any of the Governments actions or we would be committing a felony. We paid out four thousand dollars in fees and bribes to complete the process. When this was done we could legally bring in our household goods that were held by US customs in Loredo Texas. This meant we has rented furniture in Mexico while awaiting our goods. There were extensive fees involved here that the company paid. \n\nWe could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates and under contract and compliance with Mexican law. \n\nWe were required to get a Mexican drivers license. This was an amazing process. The company arranged for the Licensing agency to come to our Headquarters location with their photography and finger print equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our US license, were photographed and \nfingerprinted again and issued the license instantly after paying out a six dollar fee. We did not take a written or driving test and never received instructions on the rules of the road. Our only instruction was never give a policeman your license if stopped and asked. We were instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his grasp. If he got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get it back. \n\nWe then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the number of our FM3 as our ID number. The companies Mexican accountants did this for us and we just signed what they prepared. It was about twenty legal size pages annually. \n\nThe FM 3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after paying more fees. \n\nLeaving the country meant turning in the FM3 and certifying we were leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants, tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs. \n\nIt was a real adventure and If any of our Senators or Congressman we
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Absolutely beautiful,  you are one of the smartest people on this site.  Yes they should when you go to another country you need to respect their culture and flag.  I would not go to mexico and wave an american flag.
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As an American with a Mexican background I find that very offensive. All my realtives came into this country legally. And why are you just picking on the Mexicans? What about all the Asians, Indians, Middle Easterns, Russisns, Europeans, etc....who are here illegally. It's fine to leave them, but pursecute the Mexicans? You need to get a reality check and think about what you say before you say it. And just for your information, this country was created by immigrants.
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I can't speak for "who would want to," but Mexico is known as having some of the most draconian immigration laws in the world. It's funny that a government that actually encourages its citizens to violate the immigration laws of another country are the first to say "we don't want illegals here."\n\nQuite ironic.
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Well, I can't stand George, but I support his stand agains amnesty.  I generally like Kennedy's, but I'm agains Ted's idea of giving everything to illegals, so Yep! Very strange bedfellows.\n\nNow, comment for Sony.  Can you please explain to me how Mexicans came into being? Aren't they the descendants of (GASP!) immigrants from Spain and Native Americans (Aztecs et al)? So does that mean you should send your Spanish half back to Spain? And of course there are different illegal ethnic groups, but the vast majority is Mexican, so therefore that is what people think of when they hear the term.\n\nThere are extremists on both sides of this very volatile issue.  The bottom line to me is legality.  I don't want to see the illegals shot/horsewhipped/forcibly sterilized/ any of that ridiculous inhuman stuff, but on the other hand, I resent them coming in here and using up our resources and sending the money they earn back to their home.  I hope the honest, hard working dependable decent people of any race apply for citizenship and are accepted.  I hope the others go back home and quit cheating us.\n\nAnd if they have applied and were denied, they have no right to steal citizenship here.  They were denied for a reason.
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From the above comment...\n\n"you have a mental problem, your sick in your mind, get a life, your an immigrant too,so stop whining. illegals arent doin anything to you, they actually help you, they werent here, you might as well say goodbye to anything they pick on the field."\n\nHe actually does have the write to voice his opinions, and that my friend, that right there is perfectly fine on a WWW site like this. But, should I tell Yahoo! that you're trying to rid him of his voice? I don't think so!\n\nAnd, I too agree with you on this (I also have a say). Unlike illegals (which are also known as NON-AMERICAN CITIZENS, they don't have a say), as rude and cruel as that seems, it's true. But if someone like an illegal wants to become American, they MUST do it legally, just like my father, and his father had to wait TEN years before they could enter this country in the 50s. Now why is it that someone just underneath the US is allowed to come here illegally? It's not fair.\n\nAnd it's not something that just pisses off citizens of this fair country, it also pisses off legal immigrants, those who waited years, maybe even decades to enter this country. It's NOT FAIR.
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Hip! Hip! Hooray! for you I come from from my father's side, mexican and from my mother's american. Both of our parent's had instill in us to be patriotic to our country, which is the good old U.S. of A. and I am proud to be an american. I am a 64 yr. old women and What you wrote about the illegals is very true. Why do they have to flaunt their flag in our soil, we do not go to Mexico and do the same. They should be ashamed of themselves in trying to force their ways in us. Can't they see that they all looked ridiculous doing that.
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How would I not accept it? Walk up to a former Mexican and say "you are still not a citizen."\n\nthe new government has the right to do whatever is constitutional and wouldn't cause mass unrest. They probably won't do anything too extreme, scince it could get repealed in 2 years, get other dems out of their seats, and swing the pendulum back to the right.\n\nAlso, they can't pass any law w/o the president's approval. They don't have a 2/3rds majority. \n\nOh, and just my 2 cents, a few select members of congress and other miscellaneous leaders should have a secret meeting in philidelphia in order to work out some of the problems that never seem to get resolved. this wouldn't need to be any kind of constitutional amendment, just a big pack of laws.
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As a daughter of mexican parents, I have to say no. My parents, grandparents, etc., have been hard workers! I am the only one with a high school diploma and a 2yr college degree. It seems ridiculous that even after this country is what it is now because of immigrants, that they'd want to throw everyone out just because... It gets to a point when, if you really think that things are getting out of control here in USA, try to find a humane way to deal with things. My brother works as a Border Patrol supervisor in Texas, he is originally from Mexico. Meaning: Even immigrants should have a chance at a better life.. And it's possible.
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What does it matter where they are from?  The issue is illegal immigration, not the country of origin.  Latinos have assumed a high profile in the marches and in the debate, so there is some reason to think in terms of 'Mexicans'. Your numbers bear that out since that 43% is illegal aliens from all of the other countries in the world, put together.\n\nHowever, I agree that name calling is a distraction at best, and nasty to read.  We could do without it, on BOTH sides of the debate.
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Pretty sanctimonious for someone who confessed to doing the very same thing tonight, I think that is called hypocrisy, and you, like the NY Times, seem to keep leaving out the adjective illegal. None of us have an issue with legal immigrants we simply do not like it when the Mexicans jump the boarder and refuse to speak English or assimilate into our society. They are bringing this all upon themselves with the reconquista attitude and shoving their flag in our faces.\n\nUpdate;\nUnfortunately you are mistaken, yes, I am patriotic and clout our flag 'here' in the good old USA however when abroad in the many countries that I have been to, I do not do that, in fact I made every effort to learn as much of their languages as possible in the short amount of time I was there. As to my blog on Memorial day, hey, it is my blog and any visitor there is welcome to either comment (for good or bad) or leave, it is their choice but my blog of which it can not even be perceived as rubbing our flag In anybodies face unless you can not read very well, it is a tribute to our veterans.\n\nTo my statement in another question about assuming that that person is Mexican, that was a simple deduction based on the ignorant way that person composed the question, surely you can see that, oh I am sorry, no profiling.
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I think you are the gal having a legal mexican bf... Some of us do not forget the word illegal actually I say it and often and I do not agree on how some actions are being taken to solve this issue ,as well as on the american side as on the Mexican/ sud american side. To secure your borders is ok but the way some americans attack them and refer to them is unacceptable even those patrolling and shooting , or those who throw things to ppl while marching no matter what ppl are free to express themselves specially in USA , am I not right? You can not talk about 3er world mentallity and are just showing a bit of missinformation for you to know Mexico belongs to the 2nd world countries.Unfortunatly most of the ppl who cross are ppl who couldn´t really study much and americans do wrong by stereotyping every person cuz of a small group.Not all the ppl in USA have a first world mentallity I can tell I Live on a first world country. Anyway it is not a matter of pin pointing anyone it is a matter of making ppl understand on both sides that the best is to reach an agreement in which both sides will get benefits.
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80% of the illegals that are coming across the border are not even Mexicans. They are from Guatamala and El Salvador , Panama, China and so on. Its not the Mexicans that are crossing over the border except for maybe a few. Now 1000's cross everyday with a Visa to go shopping in San Diego and in doing so are paying mega cash into state tax which who is benifiting from? They arent because they are go back home.  Yeah the government in Mexico sucks but things are changing slowly and thats because who ever tries to change things to fast and are noticed those people disappear. A few years back Colossio who was running for President came to Tijuana to speak and since he was wanting to change things for the people he was shot. In your question you said " it will take some Blood , sweat and tears . and thats how we made this country what it is.  Now I ask you Whos blood sweat and tears  made this country? Yours?  Whos blood and sweat do you think made The US?  AMericans?   American is not a race, it is a name given to a country in which every race of the world came together to build the country.
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obeirn1:  Fianlly someone with a brain on here.  I agree with you 100%.  Here is the trouble with this immigration debate, to much prejudices, and racisits trying to run the country.  Also some of these "haters" as I have so affectionatly called them, tend to go with what the neighbor says without investingating things themselves.  Like most things, when people jump to conclusions, this whole thing will turn out to blow up in the "haters" face.  People dont realize that it is not just "Mexicans" here illegally, and if you look at the problem more, you will se that it is actually our own Governement (INS policies) that prohibit the majority of these hispanics from gaining papers.  Look at it from their side, if your kids were starving would you not do what you had to do to feed them?  Now if you cant afford food, how on earth are you to afford thousands of dollars for papers, when the wages in countries like Mexico are 5 bucks a week....people just think they know all when they refuse to see the tarnish on the coin.  ~~To answer the question, I am ashamed that as a whole, americans think they are somehow better than the rest of the world!~~
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HELL NO!!! You can think Iam a racist biggot if you want..I don't care. Do you think I could move to Mexico City and DEMAND ANYTHING?? Much less demand RIGHTS?  Of course not!!! Especially when someone is here Illegally how many rights are they actually entitled to? NONE!! Iam sick and Fuck*ing tired of going to the grocery store and picking up a box of something and having to turn it over 2 or 3 times to find where it's written in english. DO they have half the Shi*t written in english on there products in mexico?? Hell No Would they start printing every thing in english to accomodate me or anyone else english speaking? HELL NO! SOme (not all) don't pay taxes cause they work for cash. And to top it all off some Beaner re-wrote the national anthem in SPANISH so some Illegal wet-backs can sing it in spanish. They breed like rabbits, Let their kids run around in the stores like goons, can't speak the language, and drive around with no car insurance and stolen social security numbers  and I know what iam talking about I live in Texas BEANER CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.....F*UCK EM' They need to go home.  As far as the flag waving goes the bastards don't deserve to carry the american one. And need to go home to mexico if they are gonna carry their flag...
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The U.S. doesn't have an official language as such ... but we should have!!  And present day Mexicans have no claim whatsoever over any part of the U.S. ... even the Mexican constitution acknowledges where the border is drawn, and what belongs to Mexico ... and having read their constitution, I didn't find one reference to California or New Mexico or whatever they want to claim belongs to Mexico ... we have to deal with the realities of TODAY ... not the realities of hundreds of years ago ... at the same token, Russia could then claim Estonia again ... Sweden could claim the ports of Germany .... and on and on it goes ....