Please explain to me how the books of Moroni don't violate the numerous statements throughout the Bible that say not to add anything to the Word of God. Also, how do you edxplain the statements that Jesus made in John 14:6 ("I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. o one comes to the Father except through me," and John 3:16. No additions, no legalism necessary. Do you claim to be Christian? From my reading you can't be both Christian AND Mormon. Thanks.
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Here are some websites that will explain it all if ya don't know the answer yet.
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Yes but  They like so many others have other books and other prophets.  Joseph Smith for instance, was not a prophet of God, but they would say yes.  There are many things they do that the Bible says not to do.  Not bashing, just telling the truth and I can back it up with a lot of scriptures and Mormon statements if you would like.
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Isn't that a Mormon church? If it is, then it's full of morons. The Bible clearly says not to add or take away any part of it, and they just decided to write their own version.
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This is not a prophecy for one, matts got that right.  And God never told Joseph he would live to be 85, He said, if thou.  In v16, this leads me to believe that the Lord is telling Joseph not to be concerned with such things, that he will see Christ regardless of when the second coming is.\n\nI am wondering if these are even your own thoughts, because this stuff looks like it came from www.exmormon.org.  Do you know anything about these people who write this stuff?  For all you know they are apostates that have been excommunicated for being an adulterer and become imbittered over it, or something else, and instead of repenting and working to be reinstated into the church, they live their life trying to justify their actions by claiming the church isn't true.  It is all biased.  It is worse than mainstream news.  How can you actually read this stuff and feel fulfilled?  What happened with you Brandon, that you feel you have to destroy the faith of others?  Isn't the faith you have good enough; you have to try to discredit others faith for what?  To strengthen yours?  That is not how to develop faith.  If you were content with your beliefs that would be enough for you.  What is this enfatuation with the LDS church?  It sounds like you might read this anti-mormon trash more than you study to develop your personal beliefs, I hope I am wrong, but is that what God wants?
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Be careful of spirits and especially deep meditation that is not with the Bible. The last guy who i heard did that the Mormon religion started out of him and today they put the book of Moroni above the Bible. The Bible says that if a spirit comes to you you should test it from the Bible, Isaiah 8. If they speak of things contrary to the Bible then they are not of God, or if they add to things in the Bible, Revelation 22:18,19.  Hope this was helpful.
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Interesting how so many people quote a different part of the bible without dealing with the fact that there is a clear contradictino here.\n\nTHis guy posted a verse that says basically, ask and you shall receive. Not "I'll think about it", but you shall receive.  And you all quote verses saying "not so fast".  Well, which is it? Can we move mountains with faith? Only if it's for a good cause? What?
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After reading thru your answers I gather that most anti - Mormons are highly mis-informed! The Book of Mormon tells of the first inhabitants of the America's. All the way from the southern tip of South America on up to the Alaskan territories!  The American Indian and the Native Peoples of Mexico are the decendants of these people.  We believe in the same God, the same Jesus, Trinity (Father, Son & Holy Ghost), We definately believe That Jesus suffered in behalf of the all the sinners of the worild that they might be forgiven of their sins. And died on the cross to seal that offer.  And yes we believe in the Bible as far as it is translated correctly!\nI have a challenge. All Mormon Bashers should prayerfully READ the book of Mormon., before deciding what it says. After you've read it and taken Moroni up on his challenge. Then  - lets talk!!
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GodShew, could you please enlighten me (and hopefully other Christians) as to what Bible you are referring to when you come up with your questions/answers/comments. Sometimes you Bless ppl in the name of God, and sometimes it almost seems as though you are cursing His Word. Although this comment may seem offensive to you, that is not what I want to accomplish. I just truly want to know, where do you stand on the TRUE Word of God?\n\nWhy do you sometimes speak in "code?" If demons are putting this in your head, you are responsible for rebuking them. Since you know SOME truths about God's Word (even though many times you twist it, as is a characteristic of Satan and his demons), you are responsible for your actions, as it is my responsibility as a Christian to tell you that.
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I have never heard this before, and I have studied a lot on the religion.  Because they are so secrative rumors like this start.  However, there are so many wrong teachings of the mormons that there is no need to make stuff up about them!\n\nMormonism teaches:\n\nThat there is more than one God.\nThat God the Father is really just an exalted man with flesh and bones just like you and me.\nThat we also can become gods.\nThat the apostle John is still alive today, but yet believe that the church went into complete apostacy (meaning John must have left Jesus, too).\nThat Adam and Eve didn't really sin.\nThat salvation is earned and that grace is nothing more than "enabling power" that aids people as they seek perfection.\nTeaches that the Father actually had sex with Mary and that she was not a virgin.\n\nI have been told that the last one is not widely believed by the Mormon church, and is not an "official" church doctrine.  I know that Doctrines of Salvation vol. 1:18 says that Jesus was not begotten by the Holy Ghost.  I do not know if that is one of their "official" sources of doctrine.  I know this does, however, contradict both Matthew 1:18, and even the Book of Mormon (Alma 7:10).  \n\nMormonism IS a cult, IS a perversion of the gospel of Christ, and IS NOT the "true church" as they claim.
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first- notoriousnick- Are you LDS?\n\nAnyway, back to the question- Why do others think Mormons aren't Christian....\n\nI think it all has to do with definitions.\nIf you define a duck as a waterfowl with webbed feet, a big bill, a bird that waddles, quacks and is white in color, eliminating any animal that does not fit this description... that's a pretty specific definition!... it also eliminates all wild ducks, like malards...\n\nIf you define Christians as people who believe in the Bible, both the Old and New Testament, have accepted Jesus as their savior, and accept the Trinity as fact... Again, that could be considered a pretty narrow definition.\n\nBecause "Mormons" don't accept the idea of the Trinity, they are often exluded from the label of Christian.\n\nMy own definition of Christian-\nA Christian is one who\na) accepts Jesus as the Son of God, Savior of mankind (including him or herself), and Redeemer of the world (btw- these characteristics, when applied to Jesus of Nazareth can be found in the Bible, both Old and New Testament).\nb) also tries to follow Christ's example as recorded in the New Testament, living the "Golden Rule" throughout their lives.... (this definition could eliminate many who call themselves Christian, simply because they arent' living the "Golden Rule")\n\nIn essence, my definition of Christain is someone who not only talks the talk, but walks the walk.\n\nAccording to my definition of what a Christian is- someone who fulfills both parts of what I've written, yes, "Mormons" are Christian.
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seekfind, \n\nhow did Jesus come down from heaven when he was born here on earth???!!\n\nAhmad don't ask them questions they can't answer. they can't seem to agree on whether he was God or son of God or both.\n--\nedit:\nfor mimi.\ngreat i agree with you that the Trinity doctrine is made up and that Jesus and God are indeed not equal.\nso what would make Jesus a physical son of God just because he spoke God's word? was Moses the son of God? was David the son of God?\nGod is so powerful and can do any thing he wants just by saying "be" and it is. then why couldn't God do the same in the case of Jesus' birth? we know Mary was virgin, but why couldn't Jesus be a Human Miracle? a sign from God for the Israelites?
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hi.. First of all, I would like to congratulate you for choosing the way of Christ.\n\nI'll try to answer your question to the best of my ability.\n\nI believe that when God speaks about All flesh\nin Joel 2:28 "And i shall come to pass afterwards that I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions."\nHe meant the believers or someone who is being prepared for the Lord's works.\n\nIf you check sub chapters before that verse, God talks about A call to repentance and the land refreshed.\nThe Lord obviously speaks about the people who repent and refreshed into the new creation in Christ (believers).\nThus, I conclude that All flesh, in Joel 2:28, means All believers\n\nThat's why it is important to always read at least a chapter or two before and after the verse.\nFor the bible works as a whole; we should avoid reading bible verses by chopping it individually. If we do that, there is a chance for us to take the verse out of the original context. \n\nAnd, yes there are still prophets appointed by God.\nand as it is true that there are true prophets, there are also false prophets/teachers.\n\nand your question is How we can tell the true from the false one, right?\n\nthere are 3 steps for us to know that a prophet is a false one or not:\n1. God says "My People perish from the lack of knowledge." It is very important for us to read the bible and pray everyday to build a sweet and intimate relationship with God. And also sharpen our knowledge about God's characters.\nWe know that Jesus has warned us about the false prophets/ messiahs in Matthew 24:24-28. So, when there are news about  messiahs that come to deliver us from sin, we knew that we have to be careful with those fake messiahs. We know in our heart that Jesus Christ is our only messiah that no one comes to the Father without going trough Him.\n\n2. From reading the bible everyday and become more and more alert and sensitive to God's voice, we knew that the true prophet sent by God will NEVER contradict the bible.\nSo, when a teacher/prophets come to you and said that he is the messiah or something like you should divorce your husband, we know immediately that this prophet is a false teachers and should be avoided.\nRemember! the bible is the ultimate guide that you should use to check whether a prophet is false or not.\n\nwhen they go against the bible, don't waste your time.\nPack your things and go.. Don't bother listening to them.\n\n3. What if the prophet looks and sounds fine for now...but in the future, he will finally shown his true self. how do you know  that he's not going to trap you in his web of lies. For we know that the devil is cunning and deceitful.\n\nWell, go and look in matthew 7: 15-20.\nIt is okay and even recommended to test those people.\nDon't accept them immediately just because they said they are prophets.\nDon't be rude to them, but keep your Spiritual alert system on all the time.\nTest the fruits and the labors. For the things that came from the Lord always bring forth peace and goodness.\n\nTake whatever good and biblical inside. but, disregard the weird teachings. Keep alert and pray all the time for the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to you about those prophets.\n \n\nHopefully that helps,\nIn jesus name,\n\n\nAmen
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The Scripture in Phillipians quite explicitly refutes the idea that Jesus the Son and Jehovah the Father are the same person.\n(Philippians 2:6) [Jesus] gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God\n\nSimilarly, pretending that Hebrews 1:5 supports trinitarianism requires that one purposely ignore the obvious answers to the obvious rhetorical questions posed there. In fact, Hebrews 1:5 actually contains strong proof that Jesus *IS* (and was) an angel. That verse asks two questions to which any bible student then and now knows the answers. Here is every word of that verse at Hebrews 1:5:\n\n(Hebrews 1:5) For example, to which one of the angels did he ever say: "You are my son; I, today, I have become your father"? And again: "I myself shall become his father, and he himself will become my son"? \n\nTHE CLEAR ANSWER TO BOTH QUESTIONS ('Which angel?') IS THAT THE ANGEL IS JESUS!\n\nThis scripture is a strong argument to PROVE that Jesus *IS* an angel, albeit the Archangel. Sincere bible students are interested in the verses which answer the straightforward questions of Hebrews 1:5:\n\nQ: To which one of the angels did God ever say: "You are my son; I, today, I have become your father"?\nA: To the angel Jesus, the Christ!\n(Psalm 2:2-12) High officials themselves have massed together as one Against Jehovah and against his anointed one [footnote; "Christ"]... Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah; He has said to me: "You are my son; I, today, I have become your father..." And now, O kings, ...Kiss the son\n\nQ: To which of one of the angels did God ever say: "I myself shall become his father, and he himself will become my son"?\nA: To the angel Jesus, God's chosen King!\n(2 Samuel 7:11-14) Jehovah has told you ...I shall certainly raise up your seed after you ...and I shall indeed firmly establish his kingdom. ...I shall certainly establish the throne of his kingdom firmly to time indefinite. I myself shall become his father, and he himself will become my son\n\n\nHere are three connections (in addition to Hebrews 1:5) showing that Jesus Christ is the same person as the archangel Michael:\n\n1. Note that Jesus the Lord calls with an archangel's voice:\n(1 Thessalonians 4:14-16) Jesus died and rose again, so, too... the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice\n\n\n2. Note that BOTH Jesus ("The Word") and Michael are spoken of as leading the angelic armies; can there be two such leaders who do not even mention one another?\n\n(Revelation 19:13-14) the name he is called is The Word of God. Also, the armies that were in heaven were following him\n\n(Revelation 12:7) And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled\n\n\n3. Note that BOTH Jesus and Michael return and stand up at the same time; this is during a time of distress (or tribulation) "such as has never happened before" which seems quite clearly to be a one-time event.\n\n(Daniel 12:1) And during that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of your people. And there will certainly occur a time of distress such as has not been made to occur since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, every one who is found written down in the book.\n\n(Matthew 24:3-21) the disciples approached him [Jesus] privately, saying: "Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?" And in answer Jesus said to them: "...All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress. ...But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. ...for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world's beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.\n\nLearn more:\nhttp://watchtower.org/e/ti/
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The Bible says not to add to or take away from it in any way.  Therefore, if another book comes along and "supersedes" the Bible, it must be thought of as false teaching.  Unfortunately, I don't know enough about the Muslim religion to comment on its readings, but from the Christian point of view, any religion that rejects Christ as the Messiah must be a false teaching.  From what I understand, they have elevated Mohamed to be equal with Jesus and for that reason, I must get out my rubber stamp and red ink and label it "FALSE"!
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Please read. \n\nI am a convert to the Church, having joined my senior year of high school. It has now been 16 years of blessing after blessing from the Lord for that decision. During all of those 16 years, I have read and re-read the Book of Mormon countless times as well as the other standard works and tried to live by their teachings. My testimony of the Book of Mormon is that it is God's word and work and it is true. You still get that burning in your bosom because despite what any critic says because the Church is true!\n\nAs far as the anti-mormon claims on this site, I agree that we should study and investigate OUR FAITH, not someone's mis-interpretation of our faith. Studying anti-mormon literature is hardly worth the effort and its sole purpose is to create doubt and lead people away from Christ. Many such sites simply isolate, twist doctrines or blatantly lie about the church. A great site for explanations to many such claims can be found at: http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/\n\nYou must remember, however, that the witness from the Holy Ghost is infinitely more valuable then any proof that man can provide. \n\nHaving said all of that, I will address some of the criticisms of the website to help you see that they are not as substantial as they appear. Nor could the Bible stand up to many of the same standards that they use to measure the Book of Mormon and the church.\n\nThere were no figs in America yet the Book of Mormon mentions figs (3 Ne 14:16). This is actually a great piece of evidence in favor of the historicity of the book of Mormon.  Since the Nephites came from Jerusalem, where they have figs, it would make perfect sense that they talk about them. The website does not mention Jacob 5 which talks about olives. The Nephites did not have olives, nor could Joseph Smith have had the knowledge he did to discuss, in accurate verifiable detail, how to care for and graft olive trees. Why mention only the things that they think will cause doubt?\n\nSince the site mentions breatplates, I will touch upon this briefly. I showed a film to my Spanish class today on the ancient Mayan civilizations. One of the first things that they discussed was how the Maya people, until recently, were seen as a peaceful people (one of archaeology’s errors). Evidence has been found of massive warfare. Cities with bunkers of dirt have been located and described as far back as Cortez himself (all of which support the Book of Mormon). The host of the video then shows a Maya carving of a warrior and points out, none other than, his breastplate. Much of the information on your anti-mormon site has long since been repudiated by current archaeologists.  \n\nThe witnesses are another good example. This website claims that the Book of Mormon is false because they apostatized from the church and may or may not have had other problems (I do not see isolated quotes, taken out of context from an anti-Mormon site as reliable). \n\nIs the Bible then also false because some of its prophets and leaders were unfaithful? The prophet Balaam disobeyed God and compromised the ancient Israelites and was killed.  Aaron allowed the Israelites to build a golden calf and worship it. Paul persecuted the Christians. Jonah failed to preach to the people of Nineveh. Peter denied Christ three times. Thomas didn't believe Christ could resurrect, even when Christ was standing right in front of him. Judas betrayed the Savior. All of these offenses seem much more serious than those of the Three Witnesses, yet we unquestioningly accept the bible. Christ was perfect, no one else. This is no reason to discredit the Book of Mormon. \n\nThis site claims that the lack of archaeological evidence as a reason to discredit the Book of Mormon. This only shows their lack of knowledge about archaeology in the ancient Americas. It is in an embryonic state when compared with the amount of time that similar research has been conducted in biblical lands. Only a very small pe
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It really depends on where you go as to what kind of experience you're going to get.\n\nI'm Pagan, but I attend church with my Mormon parents-in-law when I visit them in Virginia, but I've never heard a single word uttered about Joseph Smith, and I've heard many about Jesus.\n\nThere are many little differences, but essentially Mormonism and other Christian faiths are the same.\n\nOne difference is that Mormons don't believe in the Trinity - they believe that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are three separate entities instead of three aspects of one entity. And, if you do your research, you'll find that the idea of a Triune god is actually a Pagan ideal - one of many stolen by Christianity in it's earlier years.\n\nThey also have more respect for others' beliefs and their right to have them. They do evangelize during 2-year long missions (which are optional), but they do not push the issue if they are told that someone is not interested (at least, they're not supposed to).\n\nThey believe in three different "layers" of Heaven: Celestial (the best/top), Terrestrial, and Telestial (the bottom/worst). They also believe in Hell, but they believe that Hell is only reserved for those of truly unforgivable evil. Even if you are not Mormon, so long as you have lived a reasonably good life, they believe that you can still go to Heaven, however you cannot reach the Celestial level unless you follow every commandment, are married in the Temple, etc. The Celestial level is where it is believed that God and Jesus themselves reside.\n\nThey are also the only denomination that uses additional scripture in conjunction with the Bible. They do not favor it over the Bible as many believe (not all of them, anyway), but they do have three extra books that they regard as scripture: The Book of Mormon (for which they are nicknamed), Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price.\n\nThey also believe in one additional prophet, which no other Christian Church acknowledges: Joseph Smith.\n\nLast, but not least, they believe that as "man was created in God's image," God was once a man Himself, under the rule of another god when He was human. I don't fully understand the conditions, but I know that it is believed that under certain circumstances, you can reach godly status after you die, and are given the power to create and control a planet as God created and controls this one.\n\nTo my understanding, these are the most prominent differences between LDS faith and other Christian faiths.
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True, and it is what I've been saying all along. When I was a Christian, I still didn't believe in the letters of Paul. Was it not the prophets of the ancient times that brought laws and the word of G-d through revelation (ie. a burning bush, the direct voice of G-d)? Then years later, the "new" testament is revealed through letters and secondary sources written by people who weren't even there.  Another great point, thanks for the question.