Mormons belive that Michael The Ark Angel is indeed Adam of ADAM AND EVE. If anyone else has heard this please say so christians or what ever your religion may be i encourage you not to be chicken and stand up for what you know even if your a mormon tell the truth it is in your laws.
206238
While I don't ever recall hearing this in church, it appears that it's actually a part of Mormon scripture:\n\n"And the Lord appeared unto them, and they rose up and blessed Adam, and called him Michael, the prince, the archangel."\n(Doctrine & Covenants 107:54)\n\n\nWhat's interesting about this is that in the early church it was actually taught that Adam was *God*.  This doctrine has been abandoned and is no longer recognized by the church, however...
148411
Yes, they do.  However, Mormons will tell you that just because he said it doesn't mean they believe it...which goes against their believing that the words of the prophet/president are the words of God...\n"I know that the Mormon (LDS) church's official stance on ALL races today is that they are to all receive the same blessings according to their faith and diligence."  The key word is "today."  That wasn't the case when the Prophet Brigham Young held the flock under his thumb.  You claim not to pay mind to this because it was well over 100 years ago...The Bible was written 2000 years ago!!!  It only takes a century for the Mormon doctrine to change.  It's been 2000 years for Christianity.  Plus, I've encountered LDS on this site that claim the word of the Prophet to be good enough for them, after all, it really is the word of God.  Why, in the last 150 years had God been so confused?  Does he have Alzheimer's?  For almost two millennium he was solid, then Joseph Smith came along and claimed that God's mind was ever changing.  One cannot trust in a faith that is constantly changing, one that has president's who override past presidents AND the doctrine itself.\n***\nThe LDS keep saying that the remarks sound racist today, but that they didn't back in the 1800's.  His words were the words of God...Was God racist in the 1800's?  Why do you defend him with that answer when all you are really doing is claiming that 100 years ago, God was cool with racism?
348830
While I don't place any stock in the Biblical creation story, it is silly to say that Adam belonged to any religion whatsoever. There were no religions at the time stated in the Bible. Even Judaism didn't start until Abraham.
494616
Mormons may not like the idea of being labeled a cult, but that's what they are.\n\nOne of the primary red flags in Christianity is to ask about the Deity of Jesus Christ. \nJesus states repeatedly in the Gospels that He is God in fleshly form. He says it so emphatically that the Jews picked up stones to stone Him for such a blasphemous claim. \n\nChristian denominations all support Jesus' Deity, and they worship Him as God.\n\nMormons deny Jesus' Deity, and then also deny the accepted  doctrine of the Trinity of mainline Christian Churches. The Apostle Paul would take GREAT exception to Mormons claiming that they are Christian. \n\nOther Red Flags? \n*Exclusivity for salvation. They believe they are the only true church and the rest of us are going to hell. "Membership" in their church is required to get to heaven.\n*Exclusivity for interpreting the Bible. Without their unique explanations of the Bible, a person cannot fully understand the scriptures. Therefore, they added books to the scriptures to further explain God's plan. (additions and subtractions to or from are clearly prohibited in the Bible.) \n\nI wonder what the Angel Moroni (source of Joseph Smith's Golden Plates) would have to say to Paul?
34859
Cain was concerned with the people that the Elohim created BEFORE the christian god created Adam and Eve.\n\nHeck.  I would be concerned and scared too if I were being sent out into a world among people I don't know after my parents isolated me from everything else.\n\n=======================\n\nThe following is an Article published six or seven years ago in Green Egg.\n\n*We Are the Other People*\n\nby Oberon (Otter) Zell\n\n"Ding-dong!" goes the doorbell. Is it Avon calling? Or perhaps Ed McMahon with my three million dollars? No, it's Yahweh's Witlesses again, just wanting to have a nice little chat about the Bible... Boy, did they ever come to the wrong house! So we invite them in: "Enter freely and of your own will..." (Hey, it's Sunday morning, nothing much going on, why not have a little entertainment?) Diane and I amuse ourselves watching their expressions as they check out the living room: great horned owl on the back of my chair; ceremonial masks and medicine skulls of dragons and unicorns on the wall; crystals, wands, staffs, swords; lots of Goddess figures and several altars; boa constrictors draped in amorous embrace over the elkhorn; white doves sitting in the hanging planters; cats and weasels underfoot; iron dragon snorting steam atop the wood stove; posters and paintings of wizards and dinosaurs and witchy women, some proudly naked; sculptures of mythological beasties and lots more dinosaurs; warp six on the star-filled viewscreen of my computer; a five-foot model of the USS Enterprise and the skeleton of a plesiosaur hanging from the ceiling; very, very many books, most of them dealing with obviously weird subjects... To say nothing of the great horned owl perched on the back of my chair and the Unicorn grazing in the front yard. You know; early Addams Family decor. And then, of course, it being late in the morning, you can expect Morning Glory to come wandering out naked, looking for her wake-up cup of tea. Morning Glory naked is a truly impressive sight, and the Witlesses look as if she'd set titties on stun as they stand immobilised, hands clasped over their genitals. With the stage set and all the actors in place, the show is ready to begin.\n\nTheir mission, of course, is to save our heathen souls by turning us on to "The Word of the Lord"- their Bible. I guess they figure some of us just haven't heard about it yet, and we're all eagerly awaiting their joyous tidings of personal salvation through giving our rational faculties to Jesus. Every time they come around, I look forward to trying out a new riposte. Sure, it may be cruel and sadistic of me, but hey, I didn't call them up and ask them to come over; they entered at their own risk! This time should be pretty good. After letting them run off their basic rap while lovely Morning Glory serves us all hot herb tea, I innocently remark: "But none of that applies to us. We have no need for salvation because we don't have original sin. We are the Other People."\n\n"Hunh? What?" they reply eloquently. It's clear they've never heard this one before. "\n\nRight," I say. "It's all in your Bible." And I proceed to tell them the story, using their own book for reference: (Genesis 1:26) The [Elohim] said, "Let us make humanity in our own image, in the likeness of ourselves, and let them be masters of the fish of the sea, the birds of heaven, the cattle, all the wild beasts and all the reptiles that crawl upon the earth." Elohim is a plural word, including male and female, and should properly be translated "Gods" or "Pantheon." (1: 27) The Gods created humanity in the image of themselves, In the image of the Gods they created them, Male and female they created them. (1:28) The Gods blessed them, saying to them, "Be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth and conquer it. Be masters of the fish of the sea, the birds of he
669464
Good question.......I asked how did Adam and Eve have two sons and carry on the human race. Was it incest? i have no idea.\n\nWe have this idea that Adam and Eve were white (seen in pictures) but who really knows what race they were or if they truly existed. I was told that the bible is theory and it is symbolic not to be  taken literal. So take it for the "story" book it is.
592632
I thik that you may find that you are correct in your assumption.  I don't think it will validate the whole Bible... unless Noah carved his name in the boat!!  But I am with you on the Epic of Gilgamish.
27858
Well it is interesting that you ask that. My brother who is not mormon recently married a mormon. They were married in the temple and we were not alowed to attend because we are not mormon. We asked what the big deal was and we were told that the temple is considered a sacred ground for the worship of mormons to their god and that non mormons entering this temple curses the belief of the church. I know it sounds ridiculous but that is part of there religion and so be it I guess. I sure am glad I am not mormon.
645179
Ok Buckar you have a point here, now years ago when Lucy evolved and passed our DNA on down the line we soon began to walk different and get taller. See we had short legs to be able to survive on the terain and the legs were the power to run from the animals that could eat us. Oh sorry we are on Adam and Eve aren't we. After reading all these great answers I noticed one thing. Most have different answers. Now I find that there are 2 Creators, God and Lord God who created God. Jesus did have kids and hung with Mary so he could use her money to support him and he supposedly had kids too. He may have had illigedimate ones too cause they didn't have good birth control back then.As for the nipples on man they may be for the gay men. I mean its like you said God doesn't make misakes and I know a lot of gay people that are Religious and good.As for the person that stated woman was created as a helper to man I think he should have said slave cause a lot of women are supporting lazy men today.I don't see why people say the bible is fact but when I say my horoscope is true all the time they say oh that is man written and the chance of it being true is only cause some people may believe it and might have a day where it might go that way. Make sense eh ! I think we evolved from like viruses and stuff like insects did. If animals were created first and then man in Gods image only by feelings and not physical then animals are too. I say my animals love me and never sin against me where as man does, did and will continue to. Most preachers that are child molesters think it is not a sin because it is not with a woman and a man is ok cause they have written this down through time. The Monks had homosexuallity all the time and hid it, yet burned people at the stake cause they thought they were witches. This was to cover up their fears that they may be found guilty of being gay.Noah, This is utter nonsense, No way can you get 2 of all creatures on Earth into a boat for 40 days and not have them eat each other.Too many species to find to fit the boat.And how did it flood the whole world when they didn't have the weather map to show that all was flooded.I am sure that the 2 so called Gods did not send hundreds of animals from thousands of miles all over the world to get to a boat in one spot.I wonder why Jesus was in one spot on this vast Earth and at the time where there was no travel to spread the word of 2 Gods faster. If Noah had God mentally control the animals to board the boat and control the situation then why didn't he crack the whip on those darn Unicorns ! And if man is all so mighty over animals then someone was reincarnated into my parakeet cause he can say over 120 different phrases and I can't fly or immitate his language. Sorry so long as I just stopped here cause it was an interesting question .
204997
Yeah! i agree with you 100% and a lot of them that i've talked to claim that it doesn't "SPECIFICALY" say that its wrong in the bible and uhhh hello! Leviticus 18:22, "Do not lie with another man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable." So my advice would be attack them with their own source of their job, the bible and god, also im pretty sure god wouldn't have song of solomon in the bible with a man and a woman instead of two men or two women. I mean c'mon people use some common sense! Like there was this gay guy and his bf that wanted to come to our youth group and we obiously had no prob. w/ it except it was really wierd and he claimed there was nothing wrong with it! HOW DARE HIM! i tried to not get upset and be respectful because its the devil whispering in his ear and ya don't fight fire with fire\n\n\n\n\nGod made adam and eve not adam and steve... lol sry, cheesy :)
65974
You have done research on "Mormons", yet you say they don't believe in the resurrected Jesus Christ!? Mormons ARE Christians because they DO believe in Jesus Christ. Why would they name their church "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" if they didn't believe in Him? Obviously your research skills are extremely flawed!\nTheir doctrines do not contradict the Bible. They believe in the Bible. They follow biblical teachings. They have another book of scripture that is a companion to the Bible. Again... your research skills need work. \nAs for the original question "are Mormons an occult religion?" The answer is no. the 'Mormon' religion is open to everyone.
634302
Mormons are Christians. I cannot see a problem, but then again, I am a Pagan.
501211
First off, those who believe it was "Adam and Eve" don't believe in EVOLUTION. So that throws that out.\n\nSecondly those same people who claim they're "Christians" Keep throwing Levitical/Mosaic Laws in our faces when as "Christians" they should know that even THEY aren't bound to those same laws...their insistance is purely hatefilled.\n\nYou reminded me of something my brother says when he meets someone who's vihemently against gays and gay marriage. \n"Do you believe in God?" \nif yes, he moves on...\n"Do you believe your God is a loving God, a "father" in heaven?"\nif yes, he moves on...\n"Do you believe your God created all people?"\nif yes, he moves on again...\n"Then why would your Loving God, who creates all people, who is OUR Father in Heaven...Ever create an entire group of people JUST to be hated?" \n\nNow, as far as those who do use that silly phrase I say: \n\nYes, it was Adam and Eve, but if you believe in God who created all people, then it's more accurate to say "it's Adam, Eve, Steve, Larry, Janet, Misty, Kahdeem, Horacio, Tiffany, Joe, Alex, Jon, Pete, Doris, Patty, Edith....etc" \n\nI also remind them that if they claim to be "Christians" then they should remember that Jesus left us with only one mandate: "LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF!" \n\nThat was it, only one...and he NEVER ONCE said anything about gays/lesbians or same sex marriage. As a matter of fact there's not ONE referance to a committed, loving, devoted same sex couple ANYWHERE in the Bible!
217849
Very true i testify that what you say is true in the name of the christ child JESUS. Who died on the cross for our sins so that we may be forgiven. It is not by works alone or power nor is by gaining anything that you have salvation. The only way through the father is the son and the only way to know the father is know the son. Who came to you on this earth. \nIf mormons dont go to the correct jesus then they well be lost the end.
507946
It really depends on where you go as to what kind of experience you're going to get.\n\nI'm Pagan, but I attend church with my Mormon parents-in-law when I visit them in Virginia, but I've never heard a single word uttered about Joseph Smith, and I've heard many about Jesus.\n\nThere are many little differences, but essentially Mormonism and other Christian faiths are the same.\n\nOne difference is that Mormons don't believe in the Trinity - they believe that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are three separate entities instead of three aspects of one entity. And, if you do your research, you'll find that the idea of a Triune god is actually a Pagan ideal - one of many stolen by Christianity in it's earlier years.\n\nThey also have more respect for others' beliefs and their right to have them. They do evangelize during 2-year long missions (which are optional), but they do not push the issue if they are told that someone is not interested (at least, they're not supposed to).\n\nThey believe in three different "layers" of Heaven: Celestial (the best/top), Terrestrial, and Telestial (the bottom/worst). They also believe in Hell, but they believe that Hell is only reserved for those of truly unforgivable evil. Even if you are not Mormon, so long as you have lived a reasonably good life, they believe that you can still go to Heaven, however you cannot reach the Celestial level unless you follow every commandment, are married in the Temple, etc. The Celestial level is where it is believed that God and Jesus themselves reside.\n\nThey are also the only denomination that uses additional scripture in conjunction with the Bible. They do not favor it over the Bible as many believe (not all of them, anyway), but they do have three extra books that they regard as scripture: The Book of Mormon (for which they are nicknamed), Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price.\n\nThey also believe in one additional prophet, which no other Christian Church acknowledges: Joseph Smith.\n\nLast, but not least, they believe that as "man was created in God's image," God was once a man Himself, under the rule of another god when He was human. I don't fully understand the conditions, but I know that it is believed that under certain circumstances, you can reach godly status after you die, and are given the power to create and control a planet as God created and controls this one.\n\nTo my understanding, these are the most prominent differences between LDS faith and other Christian faiths.
261368
I was married to a mormon once, and her daddy was a bishop.  For her sake I tried to validate mormonism, but Joseph Smith was a lying con artist who victimized the weak and ignorant.  This is based on the mormons version of the mormon history.\n\nBeyond that, their doctrine is a perversion of Biblical truth on almost every point of their doctrine.
239971
Hum interesting. It's odd to see it portrayed in a South Park kind of way. \n\nIt hits a few points right--but it is mostly inaccurate. Here are just some of the points that are twisted:\n\nFor one, it makes it seem as though all the people accepted Joseph Smith or at least didn't make too big of a deal about it. Far from the truth. The far majority of the locals thought Joseph to be crazy and many even came out strongly against. As he further organized the LDS church, they were even further persecuted. Joseph Smith was eventually martyred because of people's hatred of him and other Mormons. \n\nIt depicts that Joseph Smith translated the entire Book of Mormon using seer stones in a hat. That simply isn't the case. There are a few accounts (that are hard to even verify) that he in perhaps one or two cases translated with the aid of seer stones without the presence of the actual plates. All other accounts specify that the plates were in front of him. \n\nIt depicts that Martin Harris never saw the Gold Plates. In fact, he was one of the witnesses to it's existence. \n\nIt suggests that Martin Harris agreed with his wife in taking some of the pages to test Joseph Smith. Martin Harris's own account refutes this, further there is no clear evidence that of his wife's sole involvement. It is thought that others that were trying to expose Joseph Smith were involved.\n\nIt suggests that Joseph Smith made up the entire account while looking into a hat. Even anti-Mormons are having trouble explaining how it would be possible for Joseph Smith to recite such a complicated account simply from memory.\n\nSo all in all--it isn't very accurate. It left out any details that lend to the credibility of the Book of Mormon or Joseph Smith. But it did get one thing right--the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith are vital to the LDS faith. It just left out the true depth of the BoM and Joseph Smith.