to betray Christ.I am not sure but it seems that a loving Christ would not want a man like Judas condemned for all ages.In the documentary they portray Jesus taking Judas aside and telling him of the things to come and the part Judas will play.But if that is true then why did Judas hang himself,out of fear or out of guilt.Any intelligent thoughts about this.No atheist please
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the gospel of judas was written in 300 ad in egypt, it a gnostic gospel , judas had nothing to do with writing this gospel. the gnostics also wrote other gospels like nathans stevens and marys among others, gnostics could be compared to new age believers today who think knowledge is the ultimate goal of humanity. theyve turned satan, in the garden of eden, into good character , now you want me to believe a gospel from the gnostics about judas is true when they believe satan is a good guy because of his knowledge .. come on
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judas iscariot!!! the betrayer!!
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If he didn't love sinners, why did he send Jesus to die for are sins?  For God so loved the world, ta ht he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life.  For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:16,17\n\nWe are all sinners, saved by grace
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They were offended at Jesus. They all knew Him and now He was telling them the way to God and they did not want to receive Him.\n\nThere were actually 3 Judas' named in the NT. Jesus had a half brother named Judas he would have been Judas of Nazareth or Judas son of Joseph. Another Judas the one who betrayed Him was Judas Iscariot see Mark 14:10. There was also another apostle named Judas he was the son of James mentioned in Luke 6:16. Hope that helps.
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Okay, this is my understanding of it from all I've read here on Y!A and elsewhere... Please correct me if I've made any mistakes...\n\nIn the beginning, God made a bunch of rules. Those who followed them went to heaven and those who broke them went to hell.\n\nBut they were really difficult rules, so God decided to send Jesus to the world. Jesus was God's son, but he was God Himself, too. Plus the Holy Spirit. And the "Word made Flesh". And many other things too.\n\nJesus's mission was to spread the word of God, his Father (i.e. Himself), but he was also our Saviour. This he accomplished by dying. You see, everyone is a sinner, and no-one can live up to God's rules. God seems to have realised that in due course. He could have, say, changed the rules or just absolved us all by fiat, but this whole kill-My-son (i.e. Myself) thing seemed easier.\n\nJesus was predestined to die for our sins. It was his calling. This is why he hid from the Romans like a fugitive, and why Pilate, Judas and the Jews are all condemned for their complicity - because they wanted to kill a man who wanted to die and was preordained to die. Their crucial role in carrying out God's plan to redeem us all is why we should hate them today.\n\nWhen Jesus, who willingly died and could have prevented it if he had wanted, was on the cross, he called out 'Father, why have you betrayed me?' This means, 'Father (i.e. myself), why have You (i.e. I) abandoned me (i.e. Yourself) when I'm carrying out the mission that you (i.e. I) decided to undertake in the first place?' This is because God, who is omnipotent, could not bear to look sin in the face, and Jesus (i.e. God) had become sin at that moment. Then Jesus died.\n\nExcept he didn't die. He spent a long weekend somewhere and then he was resurrected. So Jesus died for our sins, but he didn't die. He was raised again and now sits at the right hand of God. Except that he is God. But anyway, we can all go to heaven now, where we couldn't before Jesus died/didn't die for us.\n\nOf course, we can still go to hell. Jesus died for our sins, but it doesn't count unless you accept him as your Saviour. Plus, if you're Catholic, you also have to confess and repent and atone. And if you're Protestant, it doesn't much matter anyway, because God decided where you were going before you were born. Plus there's something about wine and thin little wafers.\n\nSo then... what have we learnt? Well, God's law is eternal, but God's law is really harsh so He gave us a hand by sending His son/Himself to die. Except that he didn't die. Because he died/didn't die, people can go to heaven. But they still have to follow God's law, or else they'll go to hell. Just like it was before God sent His son/Himself to die/not die on the cross in order to absolve/not absolve us of our sins.\n\nI hope this clears up any misunderstandings... It's all very clear and logical when you approach it the right way.
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cheri_da_rn: he meant carpentry!\n\nI wonder, was it before or after he got married to Mary Magdalene? You couldn't really hold it against the guy if he was already married and THEN found out that he was supposed to be the Messiah, and die on the cross, etc.
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PAUL the Apostle had wealth, so much that one of the Ruler's back then, was hoping to get some of it. JESUS was wealthy as a Baby.  (the Wise Men brought HIM alot of money and wealthy thing's).  JESUS had so much money for HIS Ministry, HE had to appoint a Treasurer over it (Judas).. We start out as Baby Christian's, and hopefully we will Learn and Grow.  If a kid trie's to do Adult thing's, he could get hurt.  Growing up in the Spirit, just about like growing up in the EARTH.  You have to learn, try thing's till you get them to work for you, and get big enough to do some other thing's!!!!\np.s. Did you ever wonder why JESUS put Judas over the Money????  JESUS was trying to MAKE a MAN out of JUDAS.!!!!  It didn't work, but that's just like JESUS, JESUS has a lot of MERCY!!!!!  HE LOVE's us and is trying to HELP US GROW!!!!   Ditto!!!!!!  Hope this helps!!!!
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Interesting scripure. But I'm also interested in this: the term 'last days' has been mentioned, and keeping in mind two things: the lord's overwhelming power to stretch and shrink time, combined with the fact that the last 2000 years there have been scoffers like mentioned above, when exactly will these 'days' end? This could take thousands of years, or be in a minute. But in that very minute a 'scoffer' *could* convert to the true faith, so if the lord is truly patient, he'd wait that minute too, or those thousands years, else it wouldn't be fair, I'd say.\n\nAnd tell me this: I am no scoffer, but in your eyes I'd probably be. But which of my desires are actually evil? My strongest desires are that people all over the world be stopped by blind judging other people, that people actually think before they act, that they take other people in mind when they take decisions that might effect them, in short that they respect other people and let them be. Another desire of mine is that helping people develop themselves, seek out their potentials, and enhance them, that they enjoy living in this beautiful world, and teach other people to enjoy too.\n\nBut since I don't need Jesus to actually do this, I am truly an ungodly man and I shall be destroyed by your lord.\n\nIf I'm to be judged by someone who doesn't look at my actions or my desires behind them, but at my lack of faith, and still wants to destroy me, please, let him do his thing, for I have nothing to be ashamed of and I rather live in hell knowing I have done right, than living in heaven for being a hypocrite.
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Um, there IS a gospel of Judas, and it says NOTHING about Judas being the Messiah. You can read it for yourself at the link. What's with the disdainful way you phrase your questions? I know it has little to do with beliefs, because I've met many a respectful and tolerant atheist and agnostic on this site.
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ALL THIS 17 YEARS I HAVE BEEN TRACIN GOD I DID NT FIND ONE.BUT ACCORDING TO ME JESUS WAS A BABY LEFT IN CATTLE SHED.HE WAS FOUND BY MARY WHO WAS A VIRGIN SO CALLED VIRGIN MARY (MOTHER)AS SHE WAS NOT MARRIED.HE GREW UP AS A NORMAL BOY BUT HAD TO FACE HUMILIATION OF BEEN BORN TO MARY WHO WAS VIRGIN.HE TRIED TO PREACH LOVE BUT IN FAVOUR THE JEWS PRIEST WANTED HIM TO CRUCFIED .BUT THE COMMANDER OF CEASER WAS NOT HAPPY WITH THIS AS JESUS HAD ALREADY FACED THE PUNISHMENT HE REQUIRED.SO HE MADE A PACT WITH JESUS THAT THE CRUCIFICATION WOULD BE DONE BUT IT WOULD IT WOULD BE A PLAY HE WOULD BE GIVEN ANESTHESIA (MOSTLY WINE IN THOSE DAYS) AFTER THE CRUCIFICATION .HIS ALIVE BODY WAS SHIFTED TO THE CAVES SECRETLY HEALED AND HE RECOVERED IN 3 DAYS .HE WALKED INTO THE CITY AND ASKED HIS FOLLOWERS TO COME WITH HIM .HERE ONLY JUDAS FOLLWED HIM FROM HIS TEN FOLLOWERS .PEOPLE FOLLLOWED HIM AND WENT TO EGYPT .AND SETTLE BESIDES A NILE RIVER BASIN.JUDAS NEVER BETRAYED JESUS HE FOLLOWED THE ORDERS OF JESUS .HE WAS OBEDIENT ,FAITHFULL AND DIFFRENT FROM OTHERS THATS THE REASON JESUS LOVED HIM.JESUS MARRIED MARY AND WAS ALIVE FOR 45 YEARS AFTER CRUCIFACTION .HE HAD A SECRET FAMILY WHICH WAS PROTECTED FROM BEING KNOWN TO MANKIND .THERE ARE MANY EVIDEINCE OF IT.THE BIBLE ITS IS ONE IT STATE MARY MAGDELENE AS A PROSTITUTE TO PROTECT ITSELF .AS THE CHURCH SAYS A PERSON CAN BE GOD ONLY IF HE IS SINGLE.THE CHURCH ALSO SAYS GOD IS IMMORTAL .DOES ANY ONE NO WHAT IS IMMORTAL .IT MEANS UR NAME SHALL REMAIN IN THE MINDS OF PEOPLE EVEN IF THE DUST FROM UR BONES IS GONE.
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As a matter of fact Peter did it worse than Judas, who denied him only ONCE, when he was given the 30 silver coins.\n\nThe fact is that Peter repented and had his punishment when he died, the day he was going to be crucified, he asked the Roman executors to put him upside down, as he felt he \ndidn t deserve to die like the person he cheated.\n\nJudas, on the other hand, NEVER repented and commited suicide shortly afterwards.\n\nThere it is!
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"The Gospel of Judas, however, gives a very different account. \n\nThe text begins by announcing that it is the "secret account of the revelation that Jesus spoke in conversation with Judas Iscariot during a week, three days before he celebrated Passover." \n\nIt goes on to describe Judas as Jesus' closest friend, someone who understands Christ's true message and is singled out for special status among Jesus' disciples. \n\nIn the key passage Jesus tells Judas, "'you will exceed all of them. For you will sacrifice the man that clothes me.'" \n\nKasser, the translation-project leader, offers an interpretation: "Jesus says it is necessary for someone to free him finally from his human body, and he prefers that this liberation be done by a friend rather than by an enemy. \n\n"So he asks Judas, who is his friend, to sell him out, to betray him. It's treason to the general public, but between Jesus and Judas it's not treachery." \n\n-------\nhttp://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/04/0406_060406_judas_2.html\n\nread it , its very interesting. Judas did love Jesus, but most accounts see him as opposite. He was not a traitor as we see in plain eyes, but the carrier of what Jesus knew had to happen in order to die for us. The kiss yes its a symbol, saying goodby and leading the executors to fullfill prophecy. Christ redemption of our sins.
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Christians will argue that it was not suicide but rather him giving himself to "save" you. trust me There are better augments against Christianity especially if you use their own texts against them.\n\nhear is a small sample\n1) The Gospels teach that Jesus appeared to the disciples after his resurrection. We are unclear, however, whether those appearances took place in Jerusalem or in the Galilee (or at both locales). According to our reading, the Galilean accounts seem to rule out prior Jerusalem appearances. Where did Jesus actually appear? If he appeared in Jerusalem, how should we read the Galilean accounts?\n\n(2) We find the genealogy of Jesus provided by the Gospels confusing. Who was Jesus’ paternal grandfather? (We notice that Matthew says that his grandfather was Jacob, but Luke says it was Heli). Also, we notice that Matthew declares that Jesus was separated from King David by only twenty-eight generations, but Luke’s list shows a forty-three generation separation. What does this contradiction mean?\n\n(3) The genealogical line linking Jesus and King David seems to pass through Jesus’ father. But since Jesus was the product of a virgin conception, then he does not share in his father’s Davidic ancestry. How is Jesus a descendent of David?
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I looked at your links, and I went to the home page of the first and looked at more of the articles. I'm sorry, but it did not change my mind. Much of what he said made good sense, and in coming to his conclusions, I think he felt what we refer to as "red flags" in his religion that caused him to doubt its logic. But, I find red flags in the fact that like many, including Christians, his understanding of Christianity seems to be in parts of the the concept rather than the whole. \n\nCase in point... The "contradiction" he mentions as a very serious one: salvation by faith vs. works/law\n\nQuoted are:\nJohn 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. \n\nJohn 6:47 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life. \n\nJohn 6:28-29Therefore they said to Him, "What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?"  Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent." \n\nversus\n\nMatt 19:16-21  16 And someone came to Him and said, "Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?" 17 And He said to him, "Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments." 18 Then he said to Him, "Which ones?" And Jesus said, " YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER; YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY; YOU SHALL NOT STEAL; YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS; 19 HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER; and YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF." 20 The young man said to Him, "All these things I have kept; what am I still lacking?" 21 Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." \n\n\nFor my answer to this supposed contradiction, please see the link where I have already answered the same question.\n\nP.S. - I do agree with you that the asker should have been able to look at the info provided and form his own opinion rather than immediately dismissing it, apparently w/o reading it. I would, however, be careful in claiming evidence as proof - even the writer of the articles in the first link admits he cannot disprove God.
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Exactly.  Why did Jesus HAVE to die?  Why was it necessary?  Why did God set that rule?  God could've just as easily said "Jesus, if you pick that daisy over there, you will become the redeemer of mankind".  It could've been that easy.  But no.  God had to REQUIRE that his only son let himself be killed in a brutal, excruciating way.
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Here it is, and I'm going to cut and paste from another answer I gave, b cuz I've answered this so many times now...\n\nThe gospel of Judas is not credible. Scientists believe it to be the work of gnostics, a mystical early Christian denomination. People in those times did not have the access to the scriptures as we do today. They rarely had more than one or two books of the Bible at one time, so they often did not know what the other parts said. Gnostics often wrote stories of the way they thought things might be. The gospel of Judas is a philosophical conjecture, not scripture. It was also written at least 100 years after the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John - the 4 gospels present in the Bible that tell of Judas's betrayal.\nAlso, because "gospel" means "good news", and the good news is that Jesus died for our sins, the text would have to include the crucifixion and resurrection. The gospel of Judas tells of neither.\n\nAs for the other gospels, the earliest known manuscripts date from 65 to 95 AD. That is 35 to 65 years after Christ died. It is quite possible then, that even if these were the earliest manuscripts (and not just the earliest known ones) that they are first-hand accounts.\n\nAnd by the way, the verse that people use to say that we are not to add or remove from the Bible is found in Revelation 22:18 - For I testify to anyone who hears the words of the prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are mentioned in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the Holy City, and from the things which are written in this book.\n\n"This book" refers to the book of revelation - not the entire Bible. The Bible as a whole book did not exist when Revelation was written. Granted we are not to add or remove from scriptures, but this verse is misused all too often. Furthermore, we are to use good judgement by finding out the origins and intentions of any text before latching on to it as scripture.
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Simple Answer:\n\nHe never fouled up. The Bible distinctly say He was God and perfect and therefore incapable of screwing up.\n\nBut from my own human perspective His biggest mistake would have to be allowing judas iscariot to betray Him. If He stopped him then they never would have captured Jesus...He never would have been crucified...and we would all still be in our sins separated from God and all going to hell and deserving it because humanity is the biggest pool of refuse that could ever have been concocted. \n\nBut...as it turns out God is a lot more merciful and loving than I am and decided to die for us so that we could live with Him forever and fulfill our purpose...Good thing too, if it were up to me we'd all be burning...\n\nhope this helps.