I am Agnostic, so before all of you hardcore Protestant, Catholic, and Muslim retards respond to this query, please realize that I have posted this only so I can read the advice given by fellow Agnostics. An objective point of view is the best, I feel. Recently, I had two Mormon gentlemen knock on my door and claim they had the answers my heart had been searching for. After two tedius hours, I had to ask them to leave my house. Everyone has their own opinion, but does anyone else agree that Mormons are the craziest SOBs on the planet? These two gentlemen returned the following day. I told them I was not interested, and I closed my door. Unfortunately, they would not take "no" for an answer, and they continued to knock until I threatened to call the police. Has anyone else had a similar experience, or were these two simply "renegade" Mormons?
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They are as serious as a heart attack, take my word for it.  And I think we have all had an experience like that, they are persistent.
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My friend, I agree with you, yet I also see a more pressing matter at hand. What about those persecutors and all the non-believers? If they die, they will not rejoice with all of us in heaven with the Lord God. I will pray for both the believers and the non-believers. There isn't much I can do from my present state but pray and preach the Word, since i'm not in a position to do anything but that. Email me if you have questions or are a fellow believer in Christ at questinchrist@yahoo.com. God bless
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Goodness, no!  Why would I invite a stranger into my house?  That's a silly question.  Who knows what would happen next.  My daughter might be exposed to religion way before her time, my family might be burned at the stake because we're Wiccan, who knows.  I'd rather keep my door firmly shut.
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What is Abduladu interest in this woman?\nI notice most of his post are pro-Mormon.\n\nTell me Abduladu are you Mormon?\nHave you been on a mission trip?\nDo you know this lady?\nAre you or do you know Matthew Vanderpool?\n\nWhat she did was wrong but the brand of compassion you and other Mormons are showing her, doesn’t speak well of your church either.\n\nYou must admit it is a questionable practice to send young boys un accompanied by a female into homes of unsuspecting stay at home moms\n\n2 Tim 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,\n3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,\n4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;\n5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.\n6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,\n7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.\n\nProblems like this arise all the time as a result of that practice. You might do better to reconsider the practice than to condemn this lady. One can hardly help but imagine what Jesus would do. My suggestion is that only the Mormon who is without sin throw the first stone.\n\nAs for you joann_46er, you would do better to forget this boy, repent of what you have done, pray the forgiveness of your husband and kids even if he doesn’t take you back. If you confess your sins and ask him, God will forgive you. This will hurt for a long time but you will get over it. Be responsible and take the results of your acts as deserved outcomes. Be humble and contrite. Who knows your husband with Gods grace and power and time might be forgiving. Many who have read your post are praying for your forgiveness’, your reunification with your family if that is Gods will and His grace in your life. More importantly you should join us in praying for the best possible outcome for your children and husband.\n\n2 Tim 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,\n3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,\n4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;\n5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.\n6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,\n7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
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My wife used to be Mormon (and still retains many of their beliefs), so I hope I'm qualified to answer.  I'd like to help, anyways.\n\nIt's not as simple as "when men die they become Gods," but you do have the jist of it.  It's kind of like transcendence, or the concept of Nirvana if you will.  They believe that through many, many steps involving probably millions of years after death, a man can become as God and, yes, can have his own planet by birthing the children with the wife he was sealed to in the temple (which is a totally different subject.)\n\nThe theology behind this is very involved and most of the "scripture" comes from their books.  From the Bible, they follow the track of verses about us becoming like Jesus -- including that verse about "when He shall appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as He is" (I John 3:2).  Don't fall into the trap of believing they cannot defend their beliefs; they have answers for just about any question that are good enough to confuse.  Satan is no fool.  After all, we are admonished to be "as wise as serpents" (Matthew 10:16).  The only way through the myriad of doctrines rampant throughout the world today is by the Holy Spirit's direction.  I would encourage reading what Jesus said about the Holy Spirit's job in the book of John about leading us into "all truth."\n\nMy wife was raised Mormon and, in later years, learned about the polygamy issues and the blacks not let into the priesthood until 1971 issue.  This has shaken her confidence.  \n\nHope I helped some and that I was not offensive.  I wouldn't want to offend my wife or you, but I do want to relay my observations.  Feel free to e-mail me if questions arise.
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What I find ironic is that one of them wanted to know if they should have their own section and split off from us.\n\nThey keep saying they are not a religion, but this is where they hang out.  What gives?\n\nI'm all for them being here if they are curious.  I don't like that they make fun of others or make fun of God.\n\nHe's powerful enough to handle it, it just saddens me for His sake.
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I am so happy for you!  Doesn't it feel wonderful to FINALLY come home?  For people of all faiths - even if you didn't know you were coming home!\n\nAnd NO, you cannot simply stop 'bugging us'.  What if someone else of your faith is looking for guidance?  Shouldn't you at least be around to give them a name for what they might really be thinking?  Stick around.  It's obviously enlightening for some.\n\nAlso, try Amazon.com.  Especially the 'used' book section.  Or even your local library.  You'd be amazed what I've come up with from 'Friends of the Library' sales.\n\nCongratulations on finding your path!\n\n~Morg~
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A friend of mine got married. She is Mormon. I am not. I could not come to the ceremony. THAT was hard for me to accept...why would a church exclude people from its walls? Exclude people from such an important ceremony. It kinda hurt...and that was like 20 yrs ago too.
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First off don't be discouraged at all of the hateful responses you'll see posted. They just haven't see God's love yet. Pray for them.\n\nAs for me, to make it brief because it's kind of long, I was instantly healed physically from the damage that alcohol abuse done to me. I was never interested in God or the whole "religious" thing until one day I went to my cousins church and they prayed for me and I was delivered in an instant! It was truly a miracle. Ever since then (June 9th, 2002) I haven't had a sip of alcohol and have completely devoted my entire life to serving Him. I cannot fully express the joy I have experienced in these almost four years of walking with Jesus. But I know I still have a lot of work to do for Him.  God Bless You amanda2008 God be with you.
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I left because of the death threats but I resurrected myself in a new account and maybe it'll take them a little longer to find me this time.Spooky how things happen, isn't it? I don't know what's up with all the threats everyone's getting...my guess is over-exhuberant trolls with nothing better to do with their time. But I've been wondering where all the familiar faces had gone off to...you were one of those whose disappearance I had pondered.\n\nTo answer your question...I guess religions are frowned upon when the actions of a few bring disgrace to the many. Islam itself isn't horrible, just some of its followers. Same holds true for all religions.
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i ponder this same question-kinda like, why are they on my catholic forum trying to shoot down anything that anyone says?? it doesnt make sense. it's almost as if they need to prove to THEMSELVES that "there is no God". i think that they are not completely certain that THEY believe this. they need as much supporting evidence that will make their claim a "fact". i think it shows nothing more than insecurity about their views. but that is just my two cents. there's no need to argue about something if you "know" you are "right", correct?\n\n\nalso, great job on striking some nerves! i see that some are still capable of being civil when this issue arises, while others just prove themselves to be babbling morons. i love it..
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First, tabbymomma is not making a statement or asking a question about whether or not god exists, or the veracity of atheism versus agnosticism versus Christianity.  What she is asking, is why do people call other people idiots when they are trying to convince them that their view is right?\n\nI agree with her.\n\nIt seems the "debate" in here consists of believers and non-believers calling each other idiots.  This is not a debate.  Neither is telling a non-believer he/she is going to hell, or telling a believer they are in the thrall of ignorant superstition.  Debate involves respecting your opponent, and his or her ideas, while you are pointing out what you believe are the fallacies.  In the very least, it involves a little civility.\n\n___________________________________________________________\n\nOh, and an agnostic is not a "pansy" atheist.  Agnostics hold that, ultimately, the existence or non-existence of divinity can not be proven one way or the other (and, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence), so this is a question which is ultimately unanswerable and unknowable.  This is different from atheists, who believe there is no god at all.
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Thanks for respectfully asking us all to answer... Great thinking in your question, I think.\n\nHere is part of your dilemma: \n\nYou "say" come let us reason together .. but what happens is your clan hears: "Come let us proselytize the heathen .. you listen with an open mind, and we will tell you the way it IS"\n\nYou say your god is "blasphemed," when this actually is a victimless crime .. this imaginary "being" does not exist, and is only an anthropomorphic representation of reality, made up by towel-headed people thousands of years ago, at a time when they did not have even a concept of how to keep fleas from infesting the bedding in their tents and earthen-floored huts.  In today's world, your clan claims to hear voices in your heads from this imagionary (non)"being" .. and many of you are trying to legislate the messages you hear in your heads to legally direct those of us who know you are crazy and really, REALLY far-out delusional.... but, that does not matter when the SWAT police crash into our homes to enforce these "god-driven" laws.\n\nIf your clan had your way, we would be back in the Inquisition, with things like "blasphemy" a crime to be punished by threats of force, or lethal force, "where necessary."  This kind of irrational and unrational stuff is the reason why we MUST seperate religion and state.\n\nYou stand for what you believe in, Sister, biblical comic book in hand, and your "gang" around you .. pardon me if I remain seated, reading a philosophy or physics book, OK?
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I was raised strict mormon..now I'm an athiest. I believe that the people are good and mean well, and have good basic morals and values. I also think that Brigham Young, Joseph Smith, and James Strang are full of it. Why couldnt anyone else see the gold plates? I am technically still a member of the church but have been inactive for many years.
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When was the last time a Buddhist knocked on your door, interrupted you in what you were doing, and in an obnoxious way tried to share their faith? When was the last time a Muslim approached you on the street and tried to embarrass you into accepting literature pertaining to their faith? When was the last time a Taoist walked into your buisness, sat down in a chair reserved for paying clients, and procceded to quiz you on your beliefs in an attempt to convert you? When was the last time your phone rang and, leaving your meal to get cold, you answered it only to hear a plea for money from a Wiccan so that their coven could add you to the supporters of their building fund? I tolerate Christians. But I refuse to allow them to trespass on MY RIGHTS!!! IF YOU CONSIDER THAT INTOLERANT ON MY PART PERHAPS YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THIS ... Show me your faith by your living it. If I like what I see maybe I'll ask you how to get what you've got. Other wise ... RESPECT MY SPACE AS I RESPECT YOURS!!! Its as simple as this ... For hundreds of years Christians, some at least, have had the upper hand in things like numbers, politics, etc. NOW that's changing. Others refuse to put up with it any longer, and rightly so. I've said it before, and now I'll share it with you ... The shoes not all that comfortable when its on the other foot, is it? I'm just glad that not all Christians fall into the above catagories. Those are the ones I listen to ... As, in their own quiet way, they live their truth. They have my attention. They others? Well, I tolerate them. You probably think yourself persecuted. I ask you this ... How many times, and how much, blood have you lost due to your faith? How many times have you been beaten because you're a Christian? Never, I'll wager. But someone tells you to back off and you consider yourself ill used. I got news for you. Untill the 1970s MY FAITH WAS ILLEGAL TO PRACTICE IN THE U.S.! (And it wasn't because of any thing like animal sacrifice, or stuff like that either. It was because my people were second class citizens at best, and no one cared one way or the other what we believed.)Know what I learned from that? I learned to be tolerant. You might like to take a hint. ~~~ P.S. One of the posts above speakes of Paul's having taught Christians to be tolerant. Its taken out of context. Paul was admonishing his followers to be tolerant of one another. It has nothing to do with those outside the Christian community. It pertains only to Christians themselves. It has nothing to do with whats going on now, and it doesn't honestly touch on the topic at hand. And the "new" tolerance? Kinda easy to make up a concept that covers your rear, one that no one else has ever even heard of. But, hey, it sounds good ... Untill you THINK about it. And one person apologizing for the actions of others? No. That doesn't wash. That's not your right. Its unacceptable. You take responsibility for your own actions. That's cool. I promise not to say I'm sorry for what happened at Little Big Horn in return.
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To what end?  Are athiests looking for converts?  Do they feel descriminated against?  When I hear athiest agressively defending their beliefs it often sounds like they are trying to convince others that they are silly, stupid or delusional - and I don't think that is very productive.  How about if we all just keep our religion to ourselves and let our neighbors enjoy their own path as we do ours?  Let's live and let live - ok?\n\nPeace!
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Last night I went to a great agnostic and atheist websit with 20,000 articles, let me see if I can find it...\n\nOh, and d man, being agnostic is not so simple. I am one too, you should open your mind up slightly.