in my other question people kindly answered that if a person accepts jesus as his saviour will go to heaven... so thats it, its that simple ? compared to other religions that seems a bit "too easy", jewish and muslim people seem to do so much more .. am i right ? do you really beleive its that easy to go to heaven ? are muslims and jews just seeking hard work ?\nif the bible is the book of god, or jesus to christians, who keeps rewriting it after he died ? should take priests words a book from the sky ? so many questions no offense intended just seeking answers
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The Bible says you must have both faith and works. \n "But wilt thou know,O vain man, that faith without works is dead?" James 2:20
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Sola Scriptoria[isim?]!!! W00t!\n\nI think things are pretty much predestined but we've still got plenty of wiggle room.\nKind of like God has set the basic pattern for things and lets us fill in the details. \n\nYou've been wondering this for a while, haven't you? I think I remember you asking pretty mush the same question when you were 10 or something.\nIf you actually believe and accept (accepting is the important part) that Jesus is the Son of God who died for your sins and was resurected, you're going to heaven. Even if you're stuggling with "being good", you're still saved.\nAnd as for God deciding beforehand who's going to heaven and who's not. Well, if it was up to Him all of mankind would end up in heaven and there wouldn't be a Hell because everyone would be perfect. But He gave us free will and Adam and Eve took advantage of that and now look at things.\nGod knows everything and is all powerfull but I think he decided to let some things out of His grip and give us free will because He's nice like that.\n\n(And yeah, I have class this morning but not 'till 1050)
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Yes!  Any one who says there is another God besides God, even if it is His prophet Jesus, will go to hell.  By the way, the Arab Christians and other faiths that live in the Middle East read the Bible in Arabic and call prophet Jesus Isa ibn Allah, Jesus son of Allah/God; they also happen to where turbans and ride camels for those too narrow minded to think for themselves and wait for stooges like this to make stupid comments.  Every one is born Muslim, it is your parents that make you Jews or Christians if that's what you claim to be.  After all, according to Christians and Jews, and this stooge asking this question, Muslims will go to hell.  Too bad wolves like this have become your leaders.
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You are a better person that a lot that I have met, and definately better than some of the posters to your question.  You keep on being who you are.  Don't compromise your self or your beliefs to satisfy someone else.  You do what you feel is right.  Don't worry about the nay-sayers; It's their hell, they can burn in it.  Just tell them if heaven is full of people like them then you'll take your chances in hell.  It can't be any worse.\n\n************************************\n\nAnd Christian99, I guess everyone that ever existed before Christ and those who never got the chance to know him are going to rot in hell?  That includes Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as well as Moses, Ruth, Isaiah, David, Solomon and everyone else mentioned in your precious Bible that existed before Jesus did.
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Hang on a minute. I thought Muslims looked to Allah and Mohammed as their Saviour/Prophet and Islam as their religion? Regardless, there is nothing on record that says Jews are the 'chosen people'. The only people who say this are Jews themselves, and these interpretations are based on THEIR interpretation of a 'Bible' written by fellow Jews...who played down their role in the execution of another Saviour of mankind. \n\nIf we all believe that the Lord/Allah/Jesus/Jehovah is our saviour (because God has many faces), we are ALL chosen people - not just one race or one nation of people and certainly not because one race of people has written a 'Book' biased in their favour...\n\nWhy ask such a stupid and ill-informed question on this board if not to provoke ill feeling?
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Hi Rodney. Good evening/day.Very good subject! First of all, in case anyone does not know what sin is, let's define it.  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. or MKJV- Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness, for sin is lawlessness-1John 3:4. Myself included, we need to ensure that we know what sin is so that we can be sincerely repentant and strive to not commit sins. You are correct everyone sins, that is why Jesus - the perfect Son of God who was sinless died for our sins and rose from the dead. Second, the word rapture is not in the Bible. Jesus will return to raise the dead and claim those of us who are saved. John 3:13 says  -And no one has ascended up to Heaven except He who came down from Heaven, the Son of Man who is in Heaven. May God Bless  you.
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It's kind of a new concept, but folks have been trying to reconcile the different 'versions' of religions for years.\n\nGod is not 'one' with the universe. He's the creator, everything else is the created.\n\nGod is 'One', 3 persons, - one god head.\n\nThe only human person to come to earth as God, - is Jesus. Others may not have even made this claim, - but his followers may have exalted, him to that status.\n\nAnd no, God the Father did not appear as these other forms. If another religious icon, aligned correctly with Bible teachings, -then great. I still give credit to the original author, - ie God of the Hebrews.
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there is no real right religion. all religions have got it wrong.\n\nthe only way that u'd get into paradise, is by living ur life with kindness, humility and compassion.\n________________\nmr_jaymz19, what if jesus was a weed smokin stoner, and u're following him blindly? \n\nlook, i believe that there was a jesus. i dont necessarily believe that he was the son of god. i believe that he was a kind man, and he KNEW the answers of the universe, but being that mankind is so simpleminded, he had to explain it in terms of "i am god". \ni mean what makes the bible so substantial as a text? it was written by man, and was editted by a controlling patriarchal society who didnt want us to know everything. this is where YOU sunstantiate your claim.\n\nwhat makes the bible so substantial when the bhagvad geeta is much OLDER than the bible.\n\ni mean, do u know that islam and hinduism actually incorporate the belief in jesus christ? they may not say that he is god, but they say that he was a holy man.\n\n do u know that its speculated that jesus received training from holy men in india? that that was where he was when he wasnt mentioned in the bible?\n\ndon't just read the bible and nothing else and assume its the whole truth. that's just choosing to be ignorant, and choosing to be ignorant is a sin against your god.\n\nPS. are u saying that kindness and compassion won't get u into heaven? are u saying that we can just be mean to people but because we believe in god, we will get into heaven?
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I am not a Christian, but I'm willing to lay odds most people would not change their beliefs. Faith is a powerful tool, and if its strong enough, not even irrefutable proof will bend it. There have been many such discoveries lately, lending credence to the fact Jesus was human, had children, etc. About 80% of the world's biblical scholars agree that Talmudic law would have demanded Jesus as a prophet to have a job and a wife. I doubt he would have been married and remained a virgin his whole life lol. Yet even in light of these facts, many christians remain steadfast in their religion. And so what if they do? When they die, they'll know the truth, just like the rest of us.
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f you accept Jesus as your savior, you are saved.  Sometimes, people cannot believe it is that simple.  Then again, to accept Jesus as your savior is anything but simple.\n\nDo you think God wants to see you suffer?  Of course not.  Life is easier when you follow Christianity.\n\nI would recommend to get into a good Bible-based Church, and understand the depths of our faith.
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>why is killing non-muslims Godly?<\n\nIt isn't\n\nIn Sura 9 Muslims are encouraged to fight Jews and Christians because their prophet had a problem with them [Jews and Christians]\n\n>if allah is god<\n\nAllah isn't actually God he is a demon come as light - if you look at Jehovah in the Old and New Testaments - Allah is the exact opposite and as God says in Malachi 3:6 - 'I am the LORD Thy God I change not' - then Allah can't be truly God!\n\n>could it be he isn't what people think he is?<\n\nIt's satan who comes as an angel of light sometimes!\n\nJEHOVAH/YAHWEH/EL SHADDAI etc [these are the true God's names] is the only one true God!
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Interesting question. According to the bible, you have to accept Jesus at the time of death and then you will be forgiven and allowed to paradise.  However, I find it very hard to believe that someone like Ghandi is going to hell. You can never do wrong by being a good, honest and kind person.
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Please take my 'do you doeserve to go to heaven ?' test.\nDo you think you are a good person?\nHave you keep the 'Golden Rule' or in essence the ten commandments?.\nThis is Gods law and his standard, can you measure up?\nIf so how many have you kept ? ,lets try a few,\nHave you ever told a lie? I,m gonna guess you said yes to this one, every one has told a lie at some point in there lives.\nWhat would that make you , a liar ,right?\nHave you ever stolen anything even something small ?\nI'm gonna guess yes to this one also,every one I know has stolen something at some point in their lives, I know I have.\nWhat would that make you , and me?\na thief,right?\nSo by your own admission (if you are being honest with yourself ) you are a thieving liar.Now before you say that if you steel once it doesn't really make you a thief, then ask yourself this, how many times must a man rape to be known as a rapist.\nSo if you were to die right now ,as that thieving liar and what ever else you may be, and were judged by God(assuming you don't believe he exists,just imagine for a second )\nwould you be found innocence or guilty.Would you deserve heaven or hell?\nI know myself that I should be found guilty.\nIt is because we are all guilty that we deserve hell ,\nbut God is not willing that any should perish,he does not want this to be any ones fate,so what did he do?\nThat is why he sent Jesus.When Jesus died he took the punishment we deserve for  the wrong things we do.\nThe bible says that it is, a  free gift of God ,not of works ,so that no man may boast. this means that good works are not going to get you to heaven,that God offers you this gift of not haveing to pay for your sin, if you simply admit to him you are a sinner , ask for his forgivness and tell him that you want the free gift of salvation he is offering.It is as simple as that.\nSome people are going to read this and laugh and say ' there goes another Bible basher trying to 'save' us all'\nBut how do you know the Bible unless you read it, nowhere in the Bible does it say, that if you be good you can get to heaven.\nAnd if everyone is being honest ,and if they are going to be judged as guilty then they do indead need to be saved.\nThe Bible says that there is' no name under heaven(Jesus' name)  , given to men, by which you must be saved'
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The Koran says Jesus didn't die on the cross:\n\nAnd their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure. Nay! Allah took him up to Himself; and Allah is Mighty, Wise. Qur'an, 4:157-158\n\nBut there are other passages that suggest he died later on earth instead of ascending to Heaven. What doesn't make sense is that God himself would put someone on the cross who looked like Jesus in order to fool the Jewish leaders. Why not just save Jesus. Why did someone have to die. Can't the Christians blame Allah for following Jesus if this story is true?
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Okay, this is my understanding of it from all I've read here on Y!A and elsewhere... Please correct me if I've made any mistakes...\n\nIn the beginning, God made a bunch of rules. Those who followed them went to heaven and those who broke them went to hell.\n\nBut they were really difficult rules, so God decided to send Jesus to the world. Jesus was God's son, but he was God Himself, too. Plus the Holy Spirit. And the "Word made Flesh". And many other things too.\n\nJesus's mission was to spread the word of God, his Father (i.e. Himself), but he was also our Saviour. This he accomplished by dying. You see, everyone is a sinner, and no-one can live up to God's rules. God seems to have realised that in due course. He could have, say, changed the rules or just absolved us all by fiat, but this whole kill-My-son (i.e. Myself) thing seemed easier.\n\nJesus was predestined to die for our sins. It was his calling. This is why he hid from the Romans like a fugitive, and why Pilate, Judas and the Jews are all condemned for their complicity - because they wanted to kill a man who wanted to die and was preordained to die. Their crucial role in carrying out God's plan to redeem us all is why we should hate them today.\n\nWhen Jesus, who willingly died and could have prevented it if he had wanted, was on the cross, he called out 'Father, why have you betrayed me?' This means, 'Father (i.e. myself), why have You (i.e. I) abandoned me (i.e. Yourself) when I'm carrying out the mission that you (i.e. I) decided to undertake in the first place?' This is because God, who is omnipotent, could not bear to look sin in the face, and Jesus (i.e. God) had become sin at that moment. Then Jesus died.\n\nExcept he didn't die. He spent a long weekend somewhere and then he was resurrected. So Jesus died for our sins, but he didn't die. He was raised again and now sits at the right hand of God. Except that he is God. But anyway, we can all go to heaven now, where we couldn't before Jesus died/didn't die for us.\n\nOf course, we can still go to hell. Jesus died for our sins, but it doesn't count unless you accept him as your Saviour. Plus, if you're Catholic, you also have to confess and repent and atone. And if you're Protestant, it doesn't much matter anyway, because God decided where you were going before you were born. Plus there's something about wine and thin little wafers.\n\nSo then... what have we learnt? Well, God's law is eternal, but God's law is really harsh so He gave us a hand by sending His son/Himself to die. Except that he didn't die. Because he died/didn't die, people can go to heaven. But they still have to follow God's law, or else they'll go to hell. Just like it was before God sent His son/Himself to die/not die on the cross in order to absolve/not absolve us of our sins.\n\nI hope this clears up any misunderstandings... It's all very clear and logical when you approach it the right way.
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Actually, this isn't an easy question to answer.  But, I'll give it my best shot.  Christians believe that Jesus is the ONLY way to heaven (John 14:6).  Jews believe that Jesus was a false prophet and a self proclaimed Messiah (that is why he was killed).  Muslims beliefs are based on the Five Pillars of Isalm.  You can see the site in my sources for more info.\n\nSo, why do they hate?  Simply out of ignorance.  I am an ordained minister who is Agnostic.  I don't know what to believe.  But I do believe in God.  Some people are so set in their ways that they become close minded to the idea that they might actually be wrong. \n\nPersonally, I say we all just need to get along.\n\nRev. Jank\nReach Universal Life Church
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Because Muslims do not have a love relationship with God the way Christians do. He is not their loving father, but instead he is a judge. Don't lynch me just yet... my best friend was Muslim when I lived in AL and we'd talk about this a lot.  I went to her temple, read any book she wanted, I ever read the whole Qu'ran, but I am a Christian because I need someone to love and I need someone who will love me back.\n\nIn her temple, I heard a "sermon" (I know i'm using Christian terminology here- my apologies) and the guy told this story: One very pious woman who prayed daily and faithfully did everything she was supposed to, let her cat outside on a leash.  She did not feed the cat or give it water and it died.  This woman was damned to hell.  Another woman who was living loosely saw a thirsty dog and had compassion on it and gave it a drink- and she went to heaven.  His point was that Muslims never know which actions will damn them to hell, so they must be good all the time.  It is fear based. You could do the right things your whole life, then mess up once and God can damn you and not even let you know!  \n\nLook at their heaven.  A christian sees heaven as a final oppertunity to recieve the fullness of God, we get to spend all the time we want with Him, fellowshipping with Him at banquets, worshipping Him.  Muslims think that heaven is full of virgins waiting for them, among other things- why get excited about this?  Think about it.  Why would you need something other than the presence of God to get you excited about heaven?  It's interesting to think about at any rate.\n\nBasically if you do more good than bad- you're OK.  The problem arises when some actions hold more weight than others.  Sadly their God has not clearly written out which actions these are and how much they cost- like "if I feed the homeless this week will it make up for the fact that I kicked the dog on Tuesday?"  They don't know!  No one knows how much each sin and each merit costs.  Their salvation is not secure- it's a constant state of proving your worth to a Being who finds you unworthy anyway.\n\nThe difference is, Christians do it backwards.  Instead of working to get to God so we can try and be near Him like they do; we are given God freely (the Holy Spirit) when we accept Christ's sacrifice.  So we're given God at the get-go, and then we get to spend time with Him because we love Him, not because we're trying to prove something or get into heaven.  Our salvation is secure when we accept that we'll never be good enough to get to heaven, so a sacrifice is needed.