What if you saw Adolf Hitler in Heven because right before he commited suicide he asked for forgivness for all of his sins and according to the bible if you repent your sins you will go to heaven.  So he is there in heaven with you and you have to sit next to each other every day durring bible trivia.
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I'd smile and say hello. Not because I agree with the horrible things he did, but because he was human. If he truly repented and was saved, and he truly went to heaven, that is a wonderful thing. It's wonderful if anyone does. And if God is able to forgive him, imagine how loving God must be!
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Because Gd had already told us that one person could not die for the sins of another!\n\nIn Deuteronomy 24:16 it specifically says this:\n\nDeuteronomy 24:16 The fathers shall not \nbe put to death for the children, neither \nshall the children be put to death for\nthe fathers: \nevery man shall be put to death for his \nown sin (eesh b’chet-o yumatu).\n\nIn Exodus 32:30-35, Moses tries to offer himself to atone for the sins of the people. To be written out of Gd's book, means to be written out of the Book of Life, which means Moses was asking to die for the sins of the People. Gd's response is No, it does not work that way, each man dies for his own sin:\n\nExodus 32:30-35 And it came to pass on the \nmorrow, that Moses said unto the people, \nYe have sinned a great sin: and now I will \ngo up unto the Etrnl; perhaps I shall make \nan atonement for your sin. And Moses \nreturned unto the Etrnl, and said, Oh, \nthis people have sinned a great sin, and \nhave made them gods of gold. Yet now, if \nthou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, \nblot me, I pray thee, out of thy book \nwhich thou hast written. And the Etrnl \nsaid unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned \nagainst me, him will I blot out of my \nbook. \n\nThe whole of chapter 18 of the book of Ezekiel is about this idea, that no one can die for someone else's sin. Further, this chapter of Ezekiel teaches us that all we have to do for Gd's forgiveness is to stop doing the Bad and start doing the Good, and Gd will forgive us:::\n\nEzekiel 18:1-4; 20-24; 26-27 .....Behold, all \nsouls are mine; as the soul of the father, so \nalso the soul of the son is mine: the soul \nthat sinneth, it shall die. Eze 18:20 The soul \nthat sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not \nbear the iniquity of the father, neither shall \nthe father bear the iniquity of the son: the \nrighteousness of the righteous shall be upon \nhim, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be \nupon him. But if the wicked will turn from all \nhis sins that he hath committed, and keep all \nmy statutes, and do that which is lawful and \nright, he shall surely live, he shall not die. \nAll his transgressions that he hath committed, \nthey shall not be mentioned unto him: in his \nrighteousness that he hath done he shall live. \nHave I any pleasure at all that the wicked \nshould die? saith the Etrnl Gd: and not that \nhe should return from his ways, and live?.... \nEze 18:26 When a righteous man turneth away \nfrom his righteousness, and committeth \niniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity \nthat he hath done shall he die. Again, when \nthe wicked man turneth away from his \nwickedness that he hath committed, and doeth \nthat which is lawful and right, he shall save \nhis soul alive. \n\nSo, the Bible is clear, no one can die for the sins of another, and this means that Jesus cannot die for anyone else's sins.\n\nJews have always believed in Gd, and not in Jesus, because to believe in Jesus goes against all that Gd said for 2,000 years before.
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Suicides—A Resurrection?\n\nTHE tragic news of a suicide does not close a chapter in the lives of relatives and friends; it opens one—a chapter of mixed feelings of pity and anger, sorrow and guilt. And it raises the question: May we entertain any hope for our friend who took his or her life?\n\nAlthough self-inflicted death is never justified, never righteous, the apostle Paul did hold out a beautiful hope for even some unrighteous ones. As he told a Roman court of law: “I have hope toward God . . . that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.”—Acts 24:15. \nMany theologians have long dismissed any suggestion that the resurrection of the unrighteous might offer hope for those who commit suicide. Why?\n\nCenturies ago, churchmen introduced a non-Biblical concept: immortal souls that leave the body at death and go straight to heaven, purgatory, Limbo, or hell. That concept clashed with the Bible’s clear teaching of a future resurrection. As Baptist minister Charles Andrews asked: “If the soul is already blissfully in heaven (or is already justifiably roasting in hell), what need is there for anything further?” He added: “This inner contradiction has remained to plague Christians throughout the centuries.”\n\nOne result of such errant theology was that “since Augustine’s time [354-430 C.E.], the church has condemned suicide as a sin,” says Arthur Droge in the Bible Review, “a sin beyond redemption, just like apostasy and adultery.”\n\nJesus told a criminal sentenced to death: “You will be with me in Paradise.” The man was unrighteous—a lawbreaker rather than a distraught suicide victim—guilty by his own frank admission. (Luke 23:39-43) He had no hope of going to heaven to rule with Jesus. So the Paradise in which this thief could hope to come back to life would be the beautiful earth under the rule of Jehovah God’s Kingdom.—Matthew 6:9, 10; Revelation 21:1-4.\n\nFor what purpose will God awaken this criminal? So that He mercilessly can hold his past sins against him? Hardly, for Romans 6:7, 23 says: “He who has died has been acquitted from his sin,” and “the wages sin pays is death.” Although his past sins will not be accounted to him, he will still need the ransom to lift him to perfection.\n\nOnly God can fully understand the role of mental sickness, extreme stress, even genetic defects, in a “suicidal crisis,” which, the National Observer noted, “is not a lifetime characteristic [but] often a matter only of minutes or of hours.”\nGranted, one who takes his own life deprives himself of the opportunity to repent of his self-murder. But who can say whether one driven to suicide might have had a change of heart had his fatal attempt failed? Some notorious murderers have, in fact, changed and earned God’s forgiveness during their lifetime.\nThus, Jehovah, having paid “a ransom in exchange for many,” His Son, is within his right to extend mercy, even to some self-murderers, by resurrecting them and giving them the precious opportunity to “repent and turn to God by doing works that befit repentance.”\n\nThe Scriptures encourage us to see ourselves, not as immortal souls, but as valuable creations of the God who loves us, who treasures our being alive, and who looks forward with joy to the time of the resurrection.\n\n4000 years had passed from Adam & Eve, Jesus said to a Religious Leader that no one had gone to Heaven, and millions of people had passed away in death. This is a quote from the King James Bible: \n\nJohn 3:13 " And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven," \nit seems to me, this would eliminate the "immortal soul" belief, not only that, if you go to Heaven or Hell when you die, you completely do away with the resurrection that the Bible speaks about, because the resurrection is suppose to take place after Jesus comes the second time, and that has not happened.
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3)You wrote, "Our difference is in the interpretation of the data." If the 'data' states specifically, "Every man shall be put to death for his own sin,' how do you interpret that statement to allow for Jesus dying for our sins? It seems to me that your interpretation of Isaiah must be incorrect, or that 'every man shall be put to death for his own sin,' does not mean what it says, or Gd changed His mind somewhere between Deut.24:16 and Isaiah 53.....???\n\n1)You say 'no mortal man can atone,' so who actually did the dying on the cross? Gd cant die, so it was Jesus-the-mortal-man, and so all you have is a human sacrifice, which Gd calls an abomination and something He hates, in Deut 12:30-31!\n\nFOR YOUR QUESTION ABOUT ISAIAH 53, see the BEST ANSWER AT:::\n\nhttp://answers.yahoo.com/question/;_ylt=AqACR_rSjfAqZek.PZv_OM0jzKIX?qid=1005123006794\n\nFOR YOUR QUESTION ABOUT LEV. 17:11, see the web sites i refer you to below.\n\n2)And Jesus being your prophet priest and king, i refer you to what i wrote below, all the theology of Christianity still flies in the face of what Gd already revealed to us through his Bible. Even a Jesus/prophet/priest/king still has not brought about those things the real messiah will do!\n----\nThe basic beliefs of Christianity about Jesus are against what the Bible says, and so Real Jews cannot believe in Jesus at all.\n\nThe Christian understanding is that the Messiah, Jesus, died for the sins of the people. The messiah is supposed to be a human sacrifice that is the blood sacrifice necessary for the forgiveness of sin.\n\nBut we are taught in our Torah that no one can die for the sins of another. In Deuteronomy 24:16 it specifically says this:\n\nDeuteronomy 24:16 The fathers shall not \nbe put to death for the children, neither \nshall the children be put to death for\nthe fathers: \nevery man shall be put to death for his \nown sin (eesh b’chet-o yumatu).\n\nIn Exodus 32:30-35, Moses tries to offer himself to atone for the sins of the people. To be written out of Gd's book, means to be written out of the Book of Life, which means Moses was asking to die for the sins of the People. Gd's response is No, it does not work that way, each man dies for his own sin:\n\nExodus 32:30-35 And it came to pass on the \nmorrow, that Moses said unto the people, \nYe have sinned a great sin: and now I will \ngo up unto the Etrnl; perhaps I shall make \nan atonement for your sin. And Moses \nreturned unto the Etrnl, and said, Oh, \nthis people have sinned a great sin, and \nhave made them gods of gold. Yet now, if \nthou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, \nblot me, I pray thee, out of thy book \nwhich thou hast written. And the Etrnl \nsaid unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned \nagainst me, him will I blot out of my \nbook. \n\nThe whole of chapter 18 of the book of Ezekiel is about this idea, that no one can die for someone else's sin. Further, this chapter of Ezekiel teaches us that all we have to do for Gd's forgiveness is to stop doing the Bad and start doing the Good, and Gd will forgive us:::\n\n             Ezekiel 18:1-4; 20-24; 26-27 .....Behold, all \n             souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so \n             also the soul of the son is mine: the soul \n             that sinneth, it shall die. Eze 18:20 The soul \n             that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not \n             bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall \n             the father bear the iniquity of the son: the \n             righteousness of the righteous shall be upon \n             him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be \n             upon him. But if the wicked will turn from all \n             his sins that he hath committed, and keep all \n             my statutes, and do that which is lawful and \n             right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. \n             All his transgressions that he hath committed, \n             the
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sorry i didn't get back to you.  this was not saying that God was a liar for we know God can never lie.  His promises are yeah and amen and also He is not slack concerning His promises.  What He says he will do he will do.  God can NEVER lie.  It is not possible for him to sin because He is Holy and Pure.  This particular passage of scripture was about a spirit(angel) that told God he would go and cause one of Ahab's prophets to lie to him and cause him to go into battle where he would ultimately be killed.  All things serve the Lord and even with deceipt, God can use these situations to serve His purposes.  We can see this in our own lives when things aren't going good or seem out of control, but we know God is on the throne and He is in control.  He can take any problem and make it a blessing for us if we will just wait for Him to shine through.  Keep studying his word and asking these questions.  It's how you will learn. And ask for the guidance of the Holy Spirit as you study His word.
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Is this what you're getting at?\n\nRomans 5:1-21\n\nTherefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; 4and perseverance, character; and character, hope. Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.\nFor when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.\nTherefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned—(For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man’s offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many. And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification. For if by the one man’s offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)\nTherefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.\nMoreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more, so that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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You die, you hurt all the people who love you, all the people who have ever known you.  You leave a much deeper hurt  than you can ever imagine.  If you are religious then you will know that it is a sin to commit suicide, so you go to hell or purgatory.
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Dear Bill, I would Like to explain why a person goes to hell and Howwe can escape the consequences of hell. I would like to ask you a few questions.............\n\nHave you ever lied (even once--fibs, white lies, etc.)? Ever stolen (anything--the value is irrelevant)? Jesus said, "Whoever looks upon a woman to lust after her, has committed adultery already with her in his heart." Have you ever looked with lust? If you have said "Yes" to these three questions, by your own admission, you are a lying, thieving, adulterer at heart; and we’ve only looked at three of the Ten Commandments. Nothing you’ve ever done is hid from His holy eyes. Will you be innocent or guilty on the Day of Judgment? Listen to your conscience. You know that you will be guilty, and therefore end up in Hell. That’s not God’s will. He provided a way for you and I to be forgiven. \nHe sent His Son to take our punishment: "God commended His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." He was bruised for our iniquities. Jesus then rose from the dead and defeated death. \nYour own so-called “goodness” can’t get you into heaven any more than mine could.  Jesus is the only way to Heaven. He is the "Door," the only "mediator." There is salvation in no other name, and if you will repent (turn from sin) and place your faith and trust in jesus, God will forgive you of your sins and grant you eternal life. A person dosent go to Hell because they are foolish, but raher because they have trasgressed the Law. Please, turn from sin and trust in the savior today.\nGod Bless\nWDJD
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Nobody knows what happens to us when we die, or this concept of hell or heaven. Well by catholic mythology, i think as long as you live a good life, christian or not, youll go to heaven, or spend a few years in purgatory at the most, because comon, then over half of the world would be going to hell. Heaven would be like some deluxe snob club where only a few members were allowed in.\n\nBut realistically our concept of heaven and hell has grown out of control, its turned into a huge bribe, but hey i guess it works a lot of the time. The jews (the religion christianty evoloved out of) didnt have a strict conept of heaven or hell, they knew to live life good, and that god would punish them in life for unfaithfulness and sometimes the punishment would carry over to those that were close to them. They had some slight concept of bliss and punishment in the afterlife but it didnt consume all the time and thought as it does in christianity. Actually it sounds like it was tampered with somewhat by rulers and writers.\n\nI dont think jesus wants us to suffer, if anything i think hed give us a redo, in a soemwhat reincarntional concept., then again if jesus did exist and was god's son.\n\ndont worry about it so much and just try to live a good life by the golden rule.\n\ndont take naything form the bible literally, most of its to be taken out of context into your own consideration and recieve a message and apply it to your own life.
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Ok first of all....LMAO at The Wanderer.\nNow that that's out of the way....The Bible doesn't speak directly about suicide. It kinda lingers on the Sixth Commandment of Thou shalt not murder. But it doesn't say suicide is unforgivable either, The only sins unforgivable to God are rejecting Christ and blaspheming the Holy Spirit. But it's a complex issue not to be taken lightly
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When you backslide, if you do not repent, you will not enter the kingdom of Heaven.  Sin, cannot stand in God's prescence.  If you have sin in your life, this will stop you from entering Heaven.\n\nIf all the saved people on earth, believed that once saved, always saved, then we would be going about murdering, stealing and doing all the worldly things, because whatever we do, we're still going to Heaven! Wrong teaching.\n\nThe Bible says work out your salvation with fear and trembling.  In other words it is not to be played with.  Follow the Lord, repent and enjoy your life with Him.
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I believe that you can ask for forgiveness when you see god, because the bible promises everlasting life.  Even in hell you live forever so technically you do not die.
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It was part of God's plan for the human race for Jesus Christ to die for the sins of the human race.  He was the Last Adam (the last perfect man born as Adam was created) so He was the only One qualified to die for our sins.  Fortunately for us He didn't disobey God as Adam did and He was able to do what He did or we wouldn't have the opportunity to believe in Him that He paid the penalty for our sins.
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i know this isn't really answering your question but i was kinda surprised to see what you said about "God looking like an unforgiving bully". I don't get that - He says do anything you want with this amazing garden I've given you, except one thing. If you do it, I'm going to punish you. So they do that one thing, and surprise surprise, they get punished. THEN He says, ok, so now you all do loads of stuff that goes against what i have said you should do, but I'll offer forgiveness through Jesus. That seems both pretty consistent and forgiving to me. \nSorry that doesn't answer your question, and I'm not ranting at you, just interested that you think that. I've never looked at it in that way. Hope other's answers are more on the point.\n\n\nAnd shadowalfalfa -sorry to disagree with you again, but Moses is thought to have written the first 5 books of the Bible.\n\nAn addition to my answer after your addition to your question - there is a prophecy in Daniel 7 that is entirely consistent with the acts of Alexander the Great many many many years later. There is historical evidence that Jesus existed and did many of the things the Bible says He did. So at least those things happened. Coincidence??? I don't think so.
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Hitler was NOT a Christian.  There are many who claim to be yet know nothing of the Love of Jesus.
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the bible says we all sin and therefore fall short of the Glory of God. for any man to sit here and judge sins of others would be to commit sin himself. i believe if a person has a personal faith in Christ and God they will come to know their own sin by reading God's word and allowing the Spirit to guide them in life. until that time we are to love the sinner, pray for them and minister to them of God's grace in our life that God may do His job in their heart, not condem them.
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I would go to heaven, because I have accepted Christ as my lord and savior. You see, heaven is a free gift. It is not earned and can not be deserved.  "For it is by grace that you are saved through faith. it is the gift of God, not of man, that none may boast."Eph 2 8-9 It has to be a free gift because man is a sinner. "For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." Rom 3:23 Anything that is against God's will is considered sin. There are sins of thought, omission, and commission.  God gave a standard we must achieve if we wish to earn our way into heaven According to Matt 5:48, that standard  is " Be therefore perfect as your father in heaven is perfect."  That definitely leaves me out. Our God is merciful, and does not want to punish us, but He is just and must punish sin. This apparent problem was solved by Jesus - who is 100% God and 100% man. What did He do? He died on the cross, rose from the dead, and purchased a place in heaven for us. Does everyone receive this gift? No - the key to heaven is faith. Not temporal faith - like praying when you have a sick loved one , not head knowledge - many people believe that Jesus lived, much as they believe that George Washington lived. However, they are not counting on him to do anything for them today. Scripture tells us "You believe there is one God? You do well. The demons believe as much - and tremble!" James 2:9 No - the key to heaven is saving faith - asking Jesus to save you from the penalty of your sins. If this is what you want to do, ask Him to be your lord. Ask him to be your savior. Repent of your sins, and be a new creation!