If not, why did he kill himself on cross? Was it not an act of deceiving the non believers? Is he a deceiver?
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It is a false belief that Jesus was God or was the only son of God. God cannot make himself die. Also He does not deceive people. He sends reformers who tell the truth about God. Jesus called him father only because he loves us all like a father loves his children, that does not make the God actual father of Jesus.\n\nThis is a fact too, that Jesus did not die on cross as he was put on cross for such a shorter time the he did not die. His wounds were cured after he was take off of it. Why would a person tried to be cured if he is dead? Read Bible and you will find the truth about Crucifixion. Christians do not want to use their brains in this matter, otherwise a sensible person can simple understand that he did not die on cross. Why do they think, he died? Only because they do not find the traces of Jesus after crucifixion. My question to them is that in such a case where did Marry go? Did Jesus's deciples thrown her into no where and not care about her? Some researchers had tried to bring the facts into the knowledge of those who really want to know the truth, instead of just following the wrong belief.
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To the Mainstream Christians, Jesus the Christ sacrificed Himself for the sake of removing the Original Sin off humanity, and in so doing Jesus the Christ opened a pathway to Eternal Life by His Salvation for humanity.  This is, of course, the view point of the Christians in general.\n\nTo the Gnositic Christians, such as the Cainites and Sethians, the Death of Jesus is viewed in ways very different from the Mainstream Christians; many of these gnostical views are termed as heretical and blasphemous even as far as to consider them satanic by many Mainstream Christians.\n\nThe view of the Gnostic Christians on the Crucifixion of Jesus is that, Jesus of Nazareth chose Death in order to release the Spirit within; in other words, he died for the sake of showing there is an Eternal Life by following his methods (of spiritual practices, not in the attempt on death), and not as an offering to the Eternal Life: "Pick up YOUR cross, and Follow me."\n\nOf these two very different, and might even opposing, views; each individual is entitled to select which to believe by his or her own choice.  The Scriptures, after all, can be read in more than one way -- let the Holy Spirit guide you or let the Divine Grace bestow you, the choice is always a personal one.\n\nPax et Amore Christi vobiscum,\nLux Mithrai ex Tenebras Crucis.
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well Jesus was nailed and hanged from a cross so I don't know how the cross would be good if it was used to kill someone, semantics my friend that's all!!!
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I didn't see the body but I would bet he was dead. I don't think this is all part of some elaborate hoax to fool the world. He was an addict with a bad heart and unfortunately, he simply died.
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Do you sincerely believe literally that Jesus was holding His own flesh and blood?\na little more study of Scripture might help here.
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First of all, I apologize on behalf of Donald Shaw.  I thought his response to your question was absolutely terrible, and very un-Christian.  \n\nI was dismayed that, instead of sharing his faith with you and trying to bring Christ to you, he chose words that would serve no other purpose than to alientate you and push you away.   Trust me, not all of us Christians are like that.\n\nNow, in response to your question:\n\nGod can (and does) effect His forgiveness in any way He wishes.  He's God.  He can do whatever He wants.\n\nSo why did He have His Son suffer and die for our sins?  \n\nOne reason is that this was predicted in the Old Testament.  The OT speaks of a "suffering servant," a human Lamb of God who -- like the lamb sacrificed each year by the ancient Jews on the Day of Atonement -- would die for us and take our sins with Him. \n\nSecond, human nature being what it is, it's not enough for us to read something (like "your sins are forgiven") and then believe it.  We human beings need visuals.  We need proof.  For us, seeing is truly believing.  \n\nAnd seeing Christ suffer and die the worst form of execution in the history of capital punishment -- for us! -- is truly believing.  \n\nWhy else would anyone, let alone the Son of God, willingly put Himself through that?   He certainly didn't do it for nothing.  He definitely didn't do it for Himself.  \n\nHe did it to conquer sin and death.  And for those who believe in Him, that's what He accomplished.
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cheri_da_rn: he meant carpentry!\n\nI wonder, was it before or after he got married to Mary Magdalene? You couldn't really hold it against the guy if he was already married and THEN found out that he was supposed to be the Messiah, and die on the cross, etc.
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Jesus, innocent of all sin, allowed Himself to be killed for love of us all, including His enemies. \nMuslim terrorists deliberately kill themselves at the same time as murdering other people, out of pure hatred for anyone who doesn't agree with their twisted beliefs.
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It hasn't been quite that long - he died 35 C.E or some year near and it is now 2006. But yes - that is an awfully long time considering many of the early believers are recorded to have thought his return was imminent. Matthew 24 also suggests that his generation would not pass away until the tribulation and his return. Certainly does seem like he missed his appointment, but maybe something about all this is misunderstood - i.e., his words or the expectation of this itself. To me that is good evidence supporting he actually did ressurect, because no one would resonably expect him to return again if they didn't see him return once already.\n\nMany Chrisitians want not only every word of the Bible (which has been translated and rewritten by people with different theologies many times) to be right, but it to fit their interpretation of it. So they come up with scenarios to make it all fit in their minds rather than ponder the difficult questions and admit there are some things few if any of us know.
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YES!!! Finally someone that agrees with me!\n\nALso note in Hebrews how Paul keep changing his "VISION OF CHRIST" story! 3 TIMES!\nIf Jesus appered to me in a vision, I DEFNITLY remember.\n\nALSO note his obsession which finding salvation through the "BLOOD OF CHRIST". Why is he so interested in SACRIFICE?\n\nOh and Jesus said become as children (humble, trusting, submitting to the Lord) in order to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. (See Matthew 18:3.) There is no mention here of Him (christ) dying and ressurecting as basis for salvation.\n\nIf i am not mistaken he also say that "THE BLOOD/SACRIFICE of Jesus smelt good to GOD!\n\nPaul liked to profess that he is a Jew yet he INSULTED Jews at every hook and turn!\n\nThe dude had issues!!!
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Judas killed himself as one supposes he realised his sin and thought he was beyond redemption.  If as the Judas text suggests, Jesus put him up to the sin, why would Judas then kill himself.
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For a long time (since at least the middle 1800's) people have subscribed to the 'swoon theory', that Jesus did not actually die but just fainted from lack of blood and recovered later after being taken down.\n\nThere are several problems with that, the most important of which is the fact that it was not just a bunch of townies lynching a guy they didn't like by slow torture, it was an official execution, capital punishment Roman Style. The executioners were paid professionals. The Roman state was pretty brutal, and you can count on it that if an executioner let someone off the cross alive, he'd be up  there himself next. They wouldn't let a condemned man go without checking to make sure he was dead any more than we'd let a guy off the gurney to have his lethal injection flushed from his veins. \n\nBut, some said, they didn't have modern medical knowledge. How could they be sure Jesus was dead? Well, driving a spear into a man's side and watching to see if he twitched is a pretty good indicator. That doesn't take much modern medical knowledge. Even the authorities double checked when Joseph requested the body, because they were surpised that Jesus had died so soon.\n\nBut nobody-- NOBODY-- at that time, suggested that Jesus could possibly have been taken down from the cross still alive. Why? Because they did check, and they were quite certain that Jesus was, in fact, dead! Even when the priests were looking for some excuse for the empty tomb, they tried to say that the dead body had been stolen, but they never suggested that Jesus might not have been killed. Why not? Because they knew better! Half the city must have been there to watch the crucifixion. Nobody would believe it.\n\nBut let's suppose for a moment that Jesus was taken down from the cross alive. Was he given medical treatment? no. Was he given a saline infusion to conbat the effects of dehydration? no. What was he given? He was wrapped in grave cloths-- they made a mummy out of him! \n\nWhat, did people think that Jesus' arteries just slammed shut by themselves...? Or that He wasn't suffering from shock and dehydration? It's absurd to think that a man mortally wounded could have lived from Friday afternoon until sunrise on Sunday without any care at all. That's at least 36 hours of further, uninterrupted bleeding. The shock alone could kill a man.\n\nFinally, the jewish authorities had the strongest motivation to see to it that Jesus stayed dead. If the people went to the wrong tomb, they would have seen to it that everybody learned that a mistake had been made. If there was any doubt that Jesus was really dead, they would have had the body dug up and dragged around town on a donkey-cart so that everybody could SEE that Jesus was dead. Why didn't they do that? Because they didn't HAVE the body. \n\nNo matter how self-deluded people can become, do you think that all eleven apostles bore beatings and torture without giving in without ever questioning that Jesus was alive? Why not? Because they knew he WAS alive. \n\nWhat's so imporant about being alive? It happens to everybody. Well, it wouldn't have had any significance if Jesus hadn't been dead first! A man who crawled out of a tomb bleeding and nearly dead could never have convinced his folowers that he was resurrected. Maybe that God had spared him from death, but Jesus was too honest to take advantage of such a mistaken impression. His whole life and character goes against such basic dishonesty.\n\nThe only conclusion that seems honest to me is that Jesus really did die and rise from the dead-- just as he said he was going to-!- and that means that all the other things he said were true as well. He was and is the Messiah, the Son of God, the Savior of the world, the One Who will return to judge the living and the dead.
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Didn't Jesus Christ came down as a man, to be an example for all of us? Wasn't he a God of Jacob, God of Abraham?\nWhy is it so difficult to comprehend?\n\nNo, he is not "like a slug', but he is trying to get us home.
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The apostles after his death continuously referred to him as he Son of God.  But I look for a more logical way.  The scriptures said that Jesus was without sin and that he had no deception in him.  If that is true and it is, why did he always refer to God as the Father if indeed he was not. And why did the Father always refer to Jesus as his son if he wasn't?  If Jesus was not praying to His father as he said he was, would that be deception? Yes! If at the time of his baptism and voice came out of the heavens and said in effect, This is my beloved Son, if that is not true, is it deception?  Some say it is a MYSTERY and can't be explained.  the real mystery is how anyone can belief such rubbish that God and the Son are the same.  The only place that it says that I (Jesus speaking) and the Father are One, is referring to UNITY of belief and teachings.  Look up that scripture and go back to the previous chapter and the verses before that quote and you will find that the subject is unity of teachings and purpose and not oneness in being.  The Jews accused Jesus saying that he was God so they could punish him by death.  He never said he was.
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Suicides—A Resurrection?\n\nTHE tragic news of a suicide does not close a chapter in the lives of relatives and friends; it opens one—a chapter of mixed feelings of pity and anger, sorrow and guilt. And it raises the question: May we entertain any hope for our friend who took his or her life?\n\nAlthough self-inflicted death is never justified, never righteous, the apostle Paul did hold out a beautiful hope for even some unrighteous ones. As he told a Roman court of law: “I have hope toward God . . . that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.”—Acts 24:15. \nMany theologians have long dismissed any suggestion that the resurrection of the unrighteous might offer hope for those who commit suicide. Why?\n\nCenturies ago, churchmen introduced a non-Biblical concept: immortal souls that leave the body at death and go straight to heaven, purgatory, Limbo, or hell. That concept clashed with the Bible’s clear teaching of a future resurrection. As Baptist minister Charles Andrews asked: “If the soul is already blissfully in heaven (or is already justifiably roasting in hell), what need is there for anything further?” He added: “This inner contradiction has remained to plague Christians throughout the centuries.”\n\nOne result of such errant theology was that “since Augustine’s time [354-430 C.E.], the church has condemned suicide as a sin,” says Arthur Droge in the Bible Review, “a sin beyond redemption, just like apostasy and adultery.”\n\nJesus told a criminal sentenced to death: “You will be with me in Paradise.” The man was unrighteous—a lawbreaker rather than a distraught suicide victim—guilty by his own frank admission. (Luke 23:39-43) He had no hope of going to heaven to rule with Jesus. So the Paradise in which this thief could hope to come back to life would be the beautiful earth under the rule of Jehovah God’s Kingdom.—Matthew 6:9, 10; Revelation 21:1-4.\n\nFor what purpose will God awaken this criminal? So that He mercilessly can hold his past sins against him? Hardly, for Romans 6:7, 23 says: “He who has died has been acquitted from his sin,” and “the wages sin pays is death.” Although his past sins will not be accounted to him, he will still need the ransom to lift him to perfection.\n\nOnly God can fully understand the role of mental sickness, extreme stress, even genetic defects, in a “suicidal crisis,” which, the National Observer noted, “is not a lifetime characteristic [but] often a matter only of minutes or of hours.”\nGranted, one who takes his own life deprives himself of the opportunity to repent of his self-murder. But who can say whether one driven to suicide might have had a change of heart had his fatal attempt failed? Some notorious murderers have, in fact, changed and earned God’s forgiveness during their lifetime.\nThus, Jehovah, having paid “a ransom in exchange for many,” His Son, is within his right to extend mercy, even to some self-murderers, by resurrecting them and giving them the precious opportunity to “repent and turn to God by doing works that befit repentance.”\n\nThe Scriptures encourage us to see ourselves, not as immortal souls, but as valuable creations of the God who loves us, who treasures our being alive, and who looks forward with joy to the time of the resurrection.\n\n4000 years had passed from Adam & Eve, Jesus said to a Religious Leader that no one had gone to Heaven, and millions of people had passed away in death. This is a quote from the King James Bible: \n\nJohn 3:13 " And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven," \nit seems to me, this would eliminate the "immortal soul" belief, not only that, if you go to Heaven or Hell when you die, you completely do away with the resurrection that the Bible speaks about, because the resurrection is suppose to take place after Jesus comes the second time, and that has not happened.
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Consider this. If he hadn’t killed himself and had met the resurrected Christ and sincerely asked for forgiveness, Christ would have forgiven him.\n\nKnowing the greed in his heart, Jesus allowed him to play his role in the betrayal, knowing that the Crucifixion must happen. \n\nBut Judas could’ve been forgiven if he had lived and genuinely repented.\n\nInstead he chose suicide.
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no.  there was a show on a few weeks ago about his siblings, and how if he was holy, wouldn't they be to?  It was an interesting show, but there is no DNA from Jesus left today, not even on the shroud of Turin, which some claim is a fake anyway.