examples? how about: mexicans don't learn english! agh, i'm an angry white person!! agh! well, angry white person, did your ancestors learn sioux? or the navajo language? or how about: i hate how mexicans force their way on people here, this is america! ok, to that i say: didn't your grandparents' grandparents come here and force their language and their guns and culture on the native americans? and when they didn't oblige didn't europeans just kill them and take their land? oh, and my favorite one: american was built on LEGAL immigration! white power! hmm.. i think a mor accurate depiction is: america was built on the genocide of the indian and FORCED relocation of African slaves. africans didn't ask to come here chained 400 per boat and be beaten raped murdered and forced to work 20 hour days with NO PAY. yea, well no wonder america is a superpower. that kind of workforce cannot be beat, no pun intended.
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People will justify their answers but you are exactly right.  This is why on the 4th of July I have a hard time getting into "love of country"...genocide, slavery, suppression of human rights, exploitation of minors and women...these days were are killing people and destabilizing the middle east in order to force our form of govt on them...basically the winners write the history...it has always been this way...right now lots of children, grandchildren, great grand children of immigrants are slamming the newest wave of immigrants...this isn't new...immigrants have always been reviled...I remember reading historical documents about the anti-Irish, German, Italian, Japanese movements...there are real issues regarding immigration - health, housing, education...but these people would not be here if they weren't working...so they have a place...now the challenge is to see if we can solve these problems without the fear and hate spread by the hysterical chicken little alarmists.  Unfortunately, people often are ruled by emotions and fears than by rational thoughts when dealing with these issues...of course, emotions and fear sell papers, get ratings, and consolidate political power...and rational discourse is very boring to much of the US public.
103694
Im not a Native American, but I do live in Alaska, and I  am proud to be an American. Im not sure why the person you talked to was bitter about the way Alasksn's are treated, but I have no complaints. It's just a little boring here :)
644205
Why not put it in writing, and call it the 'mexico needs to go home Act'? Bluntly spoken, that's what all this is about, not about foxes and rabbits, but about an indigent nation(well, not really, but they still screw their people regularly) trying to permanently ingratiate and integrate itself into the american fabric. Increasingly, americans are seeing a Big Problem with all of this, and already they're starting to work on things like recalls for pro-mexico politicians etc., with some degree of success. Hopefully, when the House goes national and starts canvassing the individual states through polling, the issue will be brought to a head, and dealt with, and in such a way that it sends the message 'don't go away mad, just go away' to Mexico.  Mexico fully has the potential to be independently wealthy. It's just that they choose to keep leeching off america in any/every concievable way, from trying to advocate 'growth'(open borders), more debt(more money for their people in america), and yes mexico's got advocates that are active in our american political system(see 'conflict of interest). At the end of the day, though, it boils down to a fair amount of incompetence, and no small amount of intellectual dishonesty on the part of our own representation also, along with sweetheart deals on behalf of big business that wants only more fresh mexican meat. Last time I checked, this country wasn't a wholly owned subsidiary of either Exxon, or Big Lettuce. Both can go to hell and have a GREAT day, for my nickel, we're talking about YOUR rights, liberties, citizenship, birthright, etc etc etc being sold down the river by a politician with a relative in the meat-packing industry etc. The more of THOSE clowns that can be weeded out prior to election day, the better off we are. \nThere's a workforce of approximately 150 million people in America. There ARE no jobs 'that americans won't do'. This type of rhetoric grits the teeth of most people that have worked for any measurable amount of time in america, and it's time to call some of our so-called 'representation' on the carpet about it, and get some reforms instituted so that Mexico understands FULL and WELL that 'the game is up' for their cross-border psuedo-law shenanigans.  \n\nCutting handout programs that practically encourage people to 'run for the border' would be a GREAT start. But, it's not the only step, another great step would be actual border enforcement that bars no holds, works as advertised, is publicly accountable, is provided sufficient external oversight by a disinterested 3rd party, is audited, and is equipped with the necessary wherewithal to accomplish its' job in a quick and efficient manner. \n\nTake the handout money, and buy a fleet of 2nd hand charter buses, and 10 airplanes. Hire top-flight mechanics and drivers, \nget the border fence(s) built, and take care of business. No more tap-dancing, no more excuses, no more half-ass half-measures,\njust get the job DONE. Take note of the people that bitch loudest, and see how many 'friends' they have in places like Mexico. \n\nThere is That Which Is America, which needs to be preserved and not sold down the river for $2,500 as the Senate would gladly do. And, yes, there are other countries that let their people go to america, they, too, can fix their own domestic problems instead of expecting america to do it. Places like Africa can discover 'birth control' and 'reading'...this isn't rocket science, either...
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What difference does it make,english or spanish.A person can hate with either language.\nThe Navaho are from here.Yet why were they told not to speak their native language.\nWhite  people have always hated native Americans.Why are you looking for excuses.\nSpanish did not come from Mexico.It was brought here by spaniards who came here to plunder and take from the south American natives.\nThe reason for the hate is because all Native Americans will not stay in their place and do what they are told by white people.\n\nIf there are 20 million illegal aliens here.I bet the Democrats make them legal so they  can pay taxes.
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I'm sick of people defending the Mexican invasion by saying "are YOU a Native American?" \n\nThe natural progression/ regression/ aggression of the world is change of power and control. EXACTLY LIKE IN ROME, and in London (once Londinium) and the USSR, and in every other part of the world.\n\nThe Native Americans were not a strong enough, unified force. They could not stop Europeans from taking over their lands. So it was forfeited. That is what happens in the world, that's what has happened ALL throughout history.\n\nNow, the Mexican invasion will more than likely change power and control of this country. Except for this time, we are not weak and ununified. We are just afraid of stepping on toes, and being called inhumane, or racist. We have the ability to fix this problem (we have for many years) but we CHOOSE not to. We'll probably be the first country EVER whose government allowed themselves to be taken over by another country without putting up a fight.
269788
would you people quit begging for bigger government & global authorities to solve all your percieved problems. its none of the un's business what happens here or anywhere else. thats why usa was formed remember? un shouldnt exist. mexicans have been the dominant culture & population in the south for the entire time the viande have been here. why are they such a problem? were you so worried about this 6 months ago or is this the product of the media blitz?
403303
There are alot of prejudice people in this world; it's always been that way. But we are a separate country from Mexico so we must have laws and they must abide by them. If we'd go to someone else's country, we'd have to abide by their laws. I totally agree that what the "white" people did to the Native Americans was terribly wrong.
509452
As long as they're legal I don't care.  It's the illegal ones that I have a problem with.  And English "is" our National language.  And no, Native Americans are not our ancestors.  The majority of Americans are of European descent.  That's why we speak English.  No, it has nothing to do with culture diversity.  It has to do with intelligence.  The morons who think it's better to have multiple languages are that, morons.  How many teachers are we going to hire to teach all these languages?  How many interpreters do we have to hire because not everyone is going to know "all" the languages.  I took French in high school.  Why?  Because I wanted to.  Did I "need" to?  No.  Do I speak it now?  No.  You want to live in the United States, learn English. I was in the military and went to Germany.  Guess what?   I learned German.  At least enough to get by.  I didn't force them to learn English.  When in Rome, do as the Romans do.  Nuff said.
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This is a ridiculous analogy and those above who agreee with it need to open a history book and actually read it.  The differences are numerous:\n\n1.  African slaves did NOT come here willingly--illegal Mexicans do.\n2.  African slaves were never paid ANYTHING for their forced labor--illegal Mexicans are paid according to the market economy THEY have chosen to enter.\n3.  African slaves could not own homes, property, or get legally married--illegal Mexicans CAN and often DO own homes, property and marry legally.\n4.  The fate of African slaves was entirely in the hands of their owner--illegal Mexicans don't have any owner (masters)--therefore their fate is in their own hands.\n5.  Slaves were denied education and could not attend public schools--illegal Mexicans CAN attend school (the very schools that REAL Americans pay taxes to support,) they simply don't take advantage of the free schooling and drop out at a higher rate than any other ethnic group in America.  However this high drop out rate is not forced upon them it is evidence of their their poor decision making skills.\n6.  African slaves could not vote by law and no steps were available for them to remedy this status--Illegal Mexicans can vote if they go through the legal process of becoming citizens and obey the law, however even legal citizens of Mexican heritage seldom vote (less than 6% as of the 2004 presidential election.)\n7.  Slaves could be bought or sold by their masters for any indescretion or lack of motivation--illegal Mexicans do not have any masters there they cannot be bought NOR sold.\n\n\nIllegal Mexicans would LOVE to claim slave status; however this claim reflects their ignorance of history NOT their second-class citizenship status in America.  They are NOT second-class citizens at all, they are criminals living here illegally and should be caught, arrested, and deported just like any other criminal should be treated.  The fact that they come from a poor country and their children are hungry is moot.
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As many have already said, those lines you use are from Thomas Jefferson's editted 'Declaration of Independence'.  It was merely congressional document forwarded to the British King, and not an official policy of America.\n\nOur founders were idealistic of this country.  Although when you get down to the truth of the issue, all of them wanted America for white people.  Even Jefferson believed that slaves would have to be eventually shipped to Africa to prevent the calamity between the two races (which he highly feared), and what he thought were cultural difference.  It's not that they were overtly racists in todays terms, they were more or less realists to how different the cultures were.   Within many of our founder journals they noted it would take quite sometime for even eastern europeans to evolve enough to be part of America.  Thus the reason why immigration was restricted to the western europeans for sometime.\n\n 'The People' in all essence were American born or former western europeans.  The founders really wanted to make a country like Europe, but without the messy politics of Europe.  Only when the 14th amendment was made (which was more or less forced on to the south), was anyone but white considered a person with constitutional rights.\n\nIn the case of foreigners/illegal immigrants not having special rights in America,... it's fairly simple.  The Constitution give Congress the right to dictate policy on immigration/naturalization.  While history shows you that for consesus building, the Constitution did a horrible think in permitting slavery; it also shows you the pragamatism of politics.  Reality is illegal immigration has conflicting nature like slavery.  People of all sides favor it or disfavor it, depending on the interests.  While you might consider it wrong, the laws of our land and our people say in larger force that it's right.  It may not be perfect, and it may have to be worked on, but that's government, and people. \n\nI would not pull the race card on this, though, as it depletes the actual nature and reasoning of why we have it today.  As I've shown you (very honestly), that our past exhibits many wrongs, but our present has much more to do with structural capabilities and cultural harmony.
556888
Most of the people fighting in Iraq are minorities... and since when does the act of killing another being prove you are American. I thought being American meant spreading capitalism and exploiting third world countries like Mexico. Killing Native Americans and displacing Mexicans off their land does not give anyone the right to be American and stay in this land.
149550
How was America stolen from Hispanics? From the Native Americans, sure, but not Hispanics, sorry. And no, they're not the same thing.
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First of all just so you know my background is German, Irish and English my wife is Dominican (Spanish speaking). I can only think of two things. 1) They are ignorant! 2) Mexico is one of the largest countries, so it is more noticeable. Plus, how can anyone say that Mexicans are taking all the jobs when other Americans won't even do that type of work? I appreciate them, 'cause if it weren't for them then the fields of fruit and veggies would not get picked. I'm from CA and now I live in NY. There are so many other immigrants here too. At one time Western United States used to be Mexico and the "White Man" took it away. People are just plain ignorant or stupid. Don't let it bother you, hasta
549542
It's called a 'double standard'. White Americans have the strength, stamina, backbone, intelligence and determination to build a country out of wilderness. I, personally, consider the source. It seems to come from people who still can't find anything in their own heritage to be proud of, so they bash us and ours. They try to bring us down to their level. I don't let it bother me. They show their racism every time they spout such bigotry. Let it roll off and remain above it.
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i have realized this, just like if we had white history month we would be racist, or white entertainment television. it's obviously a double standard. i also think it's funny that a lof of back people call themselves african americans when they were born and raised here, have never been to africa and neither have their parents. i dont walk around saying i am german american. there are sooo many double standards it's un-real.
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8:00 pm east coast, history channel. Maybe some people can learn a bit of truth about this holiday. Native Americans have gotten the crappy end of the stick more than any other race of people in America. If more people really knew their history, not the crap they teach about feel good history, they wouldn't write the kind of responses I have read. I guess it applies to all forums on here. Some people wouldn't believe the truth even if it was smacking them in the face. Demonize it, then kill it or pass a law to control it. Worked then, works now.
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What is the point of spitting so much hatred and nonsense??? And yes it is coming from others as well on both sides of the issue. But you are generalizing the issue and all Americans. They never asked me if they could go to war in Iraq or permission for any of the other issues you stated. And yes I do speak out to my representatives regarding things i disagree with.\n\nNo one is perfect, and obviously the US has created an envious society and quality of life.  Many of the things you mentioned are a result of aggression not started by the USA. If we did not use the bomb, there would have been a lot more deaths than there was in Japan! And you may notice it has never been used after WW2 in such a scale! \n\nWe have an idiot President with an IQ of 90, on that I think we can all agree. And I do not agree with the war in Iraq.  We are there like it or not, but the people of the USA do not want to subjugate the people of Iraq or anywhere else in my opinion. So let's do what we can and get out of there.\n\nI am all for immigration and helping other countries improve their economy and lives. You must see that the illegal immigrants are being used as a tool in a grander scheme by those in power with wealth. The layman, all of us in the working class just want those coming here to respect the land we work hard for and take pride in every day.  \n\nI really do not understand where your hatred of people in the USA comes from, perhaps you have been mistreated somehow?  If you really feel that way, it may be best to live somewhere else for a while as abscense make the heart grow fonder...  \n\nYou talk about Whites taking lands and such. Well don't you think the Indians would have wiped out all Europeans coming here if they could? Is that right for them to do?  The ones you should be complaining about are the Spaniards, and maybe you dont notice but the decendants of the Spanish rulers are still in power and subjugating the Mexicans. So if you have a beef with Europeans from centuries ago I suggest you deal with them in Mexico, bcs the people of the USA have moved on since the 19th century!!!1\n\nI would like to hear your view in a rational way and understand why you have those opinions....