i am for one! americans dont want the jobs because the mexicans are driving pay wages down wait till it happens in your field
198974
CURLIES_10-You Need To Learn The Underlying Issues Before You Become A Taxpayer(Im Assuming Youre A Student Living With Your Parents)\n\nFREEDOMHAMMER Makes The Point Best-It Is GREEDY Unscrupulous EMPLOYERS That ENABLE This Problem And Have Compounded It To This Point\n\nThere are jobs Americans simply won't do, so that the importation of foreigners is essential. Whether these foreign workers are ILLEGAL ALIENS,  guestworkers, or permanent Legal Immigrants is a detail to be worked out by us, the argument goes, but our need for them is unchanged.Even many opponents of the proposed Bush Amnesty assume this to be true, leading them to propose new and improved guestworker programs, with provisions for stricter controls against Permanent Settlement, greater incentives to return, tighter enforcement against Unscrupulous Employers, etc. As well-meaning as such efforts may be, the basic assumption is false — \n\nThere is simply no economic reason to import FOREIGN Workers.If the supply of FOREIGN Workers were to dry up (say, through actually ENFORCING the immigration law, for starters), employers would respond to this new, tighter, labor market in two ways. \n\n1: One, they would offer HIGHER Wages, INCREASED Benefits, and Improved Working Conditions, so as to recruit and retain people from the remaining pool of workers.\n\n2:At the same time, the same employers would look for ways to eliminate some of the jobs they now are having trouble filling. The result would be a NEW Equilibrium, with Blue-Collar Workers making somewhat Better Money, but each one of those workers being more productive.\n\nMany people fear the first part of such a response, claiming that prices for fruits and vegetables would skyrocket, fueling inflation..NOT TRUE..Labor accounts for only about ten percent of the retail price of a head of lettuce,  so even doubling the wages of pickers would have little noticeable effect on consumers.\n\nSeveral people told me they used to do the "jobs Americans won't do" until local employers figured out they could get ILLEGAL Aliens to work for less than half the same amount. As an example, a young landscaper who used to make $15 an hour 10 years ago, can't get a similar job now for more than $8 an hour. Same heat. Same difficult working conditions.  But with the Depressed Wage, AMERICANS – who live in a country where the cost of living is miles above that of Mexico's – can't afford to take such jobs.It's not that he and other Americans don't want to do landscaping anymore; it's just that in heavily trafficked ILLEGAL Alien environments, IT DOESNT PAY WELL ENOUGH ANYMORE.\n\n Younger U.S.-born high school graduates are squeezed at both ends. Jobs that would have gone to them in the past are now being grabbed by college graduates. The lowest-wage jobs are unappealing, and employers will not raise wages as long as ILLEGAL Immigrants will take them.\n\nIf this is what the open borders crowd means by ILLEGAL ALIENS doing jobs Americans don't want, they're right. American workers want jobs that can Earn them a DECENT LIVING in this country. Minimum wage is a fortune south of the border, but it doesn't go far here. \n\n\nthis is to illustrate the absurdity of a "comprehensive" approach to ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS , and the more radical of the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT  advocates who are proponents of an "open borders" policy. We don't take a comprehensive, humane approach with drug dealers because they are breaking our laws and causing great damage to this country by poisoning our children. Similarly, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS  violate our laws and Poison our system of Economics by TAKING JOBS  from American Workers, Keeping WAGES ARTIFICIALLY LOW, and Sucking MILLIONS of Dollars of TAXPAYERS MONEY out of our Welfare and Medical Systems. \nNot To Mention The Fact That A Majority Of ILLEGAL ALIENS Live And Work In This Country And Then Send Their Money Back Home To Their
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If we get rid on Mexican works your going to see a whole lot of price increases.  I'm sorry but I have had two houses built and Mexican workers are the best hands down.  They work their butts off and do an excellent job.  In Texas they estimate that 80% of homes are being built by illegal immigrants.  If you took that 80% away no one could afford to by a house.\n\nDon't give me this crap that American's would do these jobs because they wont.  The ones that do will half ass it.  Americans expect lots of money for little to no work.
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First it is considered rude to type in all caps..........Second...........Illegal immigrants DO NOT just take the lower waged jobs. They take jobs in the construction field, plumbing field, roofing field, food service field etc. They work for less money in these fields than an American will, so they are getting hired over Americans. Americans are NOT too lazy to work the lower waged jobs, but they are too smart to work for the sub-standard wages that the Illegal Immigrants will work for because they can't stand up for themselves and demand better wages. I have had family members who did work the orchards, fields and rice fields, but they lost their jobs because the owners could hire Illegal Immigrants for less money.\n\nYou can claim they aren't Illegal that they are human, but they are still Illegally entering OUR country and taking work and other resources away from Americans. Which makes them Illegal Immigrant humans! This has nothing to do with Iraq, so that argument is ridiculous. \n\n\nQuinn..........You're right, an American won't work for "Crap Wages", but if the Illegal Immigrants weren't here these companies would be forced to pay decent wages. I am so sick of people claiming Americans won't work any job that isn't in an air conditioned office, pushing around a pencil. We aren't lazy and we aren't afraid of hard work, but we do expect to be paid a decent wage for any job we take. Thanks to Illegal Immigrants these companies won't hire Americans because they can pay slave wages to the Illegal Immigrants.\n\n\nmaat...........There is no job that is "beneath" an American! My father has worked for 35 years as a Mail Carrier, fighting the weather, crazy people, traffic, horrible working conditions and dogs. He works 6 days a week, 10-12 hours a day just to make ends meet. Don't give me the crap that Americans don't or won't work long hours in the sun! My father has worked in the snow in Illinois and the hot sun in California and the winter rains in California. You are right that we won't work for the "Crap Wages" though. The companies who hire the Illegal Immigrants would have to pay a decent wage if they couldn't hire the Illegal Immigrants instead. My family and friends have picked fruits and worked the rice fields and other fields and would do it again if the wages were decent. \n\n@--->---
248327
if we didn't have illegal immigrants in this country working for such low wages, the economy would never survive. i doubt many american citizens would get down on their hands and knees to do all the dirty work that illegal immigrants do. if all of them in america decided to strike, we'd probably all go into inflation by the end of the week.
227371
You know... I am an anglo... and I worked at a TV station in the southwest... I was very good at my job and after 6 months I was doing the job description of three people... I was so good... I went to the Manager of the TV station and spoke of the fact that my work was now way above my initial interview job duty description and that I was fulfilling the work of three people and I asked for a raise... do you know what he said... He said that if I was unhappy with my job and pay, I could quit... as they could get someone for less money to do my job.  So I gave notice and quit in two weeks... I went back to the TV station for a visit with my co-worker friends and I was told that they had to hire 3 people and pay them 3 full wages to do the same work that I did... I went to the Manager's office and said... I see that you had to hire and pay three wages to get my job responsibilities covered... and he said, Yea... he didn't realize how right I was... and that is the attitude of Managers in the southwest where Mexican help is available... they are cheap... and they are a threat to people who try to do a good job but don't get credit for it. Do you know that for $1000.00 a month you can live in a high class home with two servants, a cook and a maid and all your living cost paid for $1000.00 a month??? Check out the ratio of pesos to dollars and see...that is why Mexicans come to the US because they make money here to send home so that they can live like kings there and even have servants for their homes... Many Americans go to Mexico ro retire... as they can live like royalty there on their medimum anount of retirement income...
109373
some of the responses angered me. Plenty of Americans get there hands dirty everyday. as this gentlemen asking the question has just proved. but I guess you weren't listening. The fact that Mexicans are doing work for less then base wage is not helping anything. Because there working under the table meaning when they get hurt they go to the hospital and pay nothing factor that it and its much more then base wage. Illegals should be sent back home. My single mother immigrated to this country and did it legal why should she have to pay immigration fee's so you can run across the boarder? Legal means are in place to allow people to enter and live in the united states why are they not used?
600140
F U Pake! Immigrants do jobs most americans do not want to do.(Sewer regulation, bird poop cleaners) GO AMNESTY!
301622
I don't think anyone wants to see 'guest worker' ANYTHING until about 1/2 million mexicans go HOME. After that starts to happen,then we can start talking about work permits and all that jazz....but right now, Mexico's got a problem, they forgot they LOST the war of 1848 and that americans are just going to stand idly by while they walk back in en masse. The border patrol says Bush's plan is horse%%%%,so we'll have to wait and see what's really going on with this issue, and whether or not this administration's going to carry off the kind of reforms that will make Mexico sit up and take notice...Mexico doesn't just want 2 bites, they want the WHOLE enchilada. They use their people as tools for their policy goals...hold the baby CLOSER to the camera LOLOL
570036
What you obviously dont understand is that the companies that hire these people for minimum wage COULD NOT do this if they were forced to pay higher wages.  By having these illegal immigrants working for these low wages, it brings down the entire middle class.  There are very few places that pay much more than the minimum wage but in Texas where I live, it is a common thing to see most jobs paying $7-$10 an hour.  How is a person to live?  Not everyone is cut out to go to college.  What you dont acknowledge is that these illegals are also being exploited.  And it is a matter of time before they too will decide that the profits that these companies are raking in are going to the CEO's and not trickling down to the people who are actually doing the bulk of the work.  And along with that are the numerous jobs that have added to it that you must be bi-lingual.......
324569
Why don't you start working instead of wasting your time on here saying your stupid opinions.  That's why the illegals are taking the jobs, because of lazy ass people like you who are not willing to work.
507546
President Bush has been dropping the unemployment rate with his new awesome minimum wage jobs. I'm with Rosanne bar. We need to create a maximum wage, I think that will create more job opportunities. Huge corporations will stop exporting jobs because the cheaper labor in other countries won't help them see more profit. They'll keep the jobs here and maybe pay decent wages. I'm talking 100 mill a year. I think that's plenty for one person.
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Funny it is all us "lazy Americans" that did all those jobs before! Hmm yea I beleive its all the LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and born Americans that created this "land of Milk and honey" that the illegals run to. \n\nBush has made sure our economy has stayed rock bottom , media lies about new jobs being created when they are merely seasonal jobs or fast food. Starve them and they will come, is and has been his tactic. So our young people are forced to join the military to fight this b.s. war and run our countries debt up more. Were else will they work? \n\nTHERE ARE NO JOBS! Illegal immagrants around here are working at Taco Bell! Gas stations, Wendy's, road construction, housing construction, cleaning services, day care! We cant get government aid for ourselves and our children when we can not find any work. We can not even get a Taco Bell job now! I have dozens of friends who have built houses all over this state all their lives, and now are lucky to work one or two months a year cause illegals have their jobs. Was it because they didn't want them? NO, as a matter of fact no one even waited to ask them if they did or not. They show up for work after the ground thraws and are told to go home. And yes for the sake our kids we would work it!!! And have been for years. The truth of the matter is there are large numbers of Americans in their 30's and 40's with hs diplomia's and many with college that cannot find work now. Job statistics are and have been manipulated (lied) about for some time.\n\nThe Illegals do not come into this country and stay on the tomatoe farms... They run to any employer who will take them, and send there women to the welfare office for government aid. Destroy a large percentage of rental properties, Sell some mexican swag on the side and do not go home after harvest time in most situations. Why should they? We hand them the keys to the city! \n\nWe spend billions on medical care, food, housing, prisons. They send all their money back to Mexico. Lower our wages and work standards and are now filling job slots we Americans need, now that all American jobs worth a damn are now "outsourced" or "sized down". How can you use someone who illegaly came over here knowing all this? They arent forced to illegaly jump our boarders and come here to work. Hell they can grow tomatoes in mexico too. And do! Most of our winter produce is now Mexican grown in Mexico. Hell they now have handbooks on how to survive in America now, it's printed by the Mexican government. Very few of their employers legally withhold taxes or SS. Most are contractor type jobs. And it's time a few of you get your heads out of the clouds, cause this whole situation has been corrupt for some time. We don't abuse and use them, corrupt employers might. The illegals think what they are being offered is great! And that is why the employers also need to be punished and fined. \n\nThey come here Illegally and expect we owe them food stamps and medical care! Do we get this when visiting their countries? Hell no! Everywhere the American goes now we have "sucker" on our forheads. We can pay for it all! Lower their import taxes into our country or remove them all together. Send them food that our government won't even give to our poor, send them weapons and training. Yea we can do it all ! Now they have the nerve to march in our streets with their country's flags! Demanding they have rights here and the right to come here by whatever means they choose and act as they choose. The problem has been let to go on so long, and catered to for so long they now seem to think they are intitialed to EVERYTHING WE HAVE INCLUDING PRESSURING OUR POLITICIANS! When was the last time you picked up a product or a set of instructions without having to search for the English text? \n\nIs this just directed towards Mexicans? NO, but what other country is flooding our boarders illegally and now marc
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i am mexican, i am not illegal n e more, but pple still pick on me like tellin me tht we are called "BEANERS" + they tell me "GO GET A JOB AS A CONSTRUCTION WORKER!" they just dont no wad its like 2 b a mex. w/out mexicans they US wudnt b wad it is 2day, mexicans take jobs tht americans arent willing 2 take, they just hav no idea wad a mexican goes through, they hav absolutely no experience.
162008
The only job that I would say Americans don't do rather wouldn't do is the operate one of those Ice Cream trucks that drive around in some neighbors in the summertime. But, then Mexicans won't do that either. \nThose jobs I don't believe would be much of an impact on American workers. \nSome other answers were rather interesting.\nI would say Americana's won't do etc etc what ever that job is. \nI think Republican racist is probably a volunteer job,so nobody is lining up for that one. \nA friends in Washington DC said there was a long waiting list for hiring Raving lunatic that is a demand job. That is all I could think of.
268863
I have no problem with anyone who comes to this country legally taking any job they are able to do. But this is America and the jobs it produces are for Americans.  If you like our economy, our freedoms, our way of life, our laws, then by all means find a legal way to come join us, become one of us, add to our work force, our culture, support this country, and love it as we do.
233050
Well, they can't sat SH*T to me. I'm American...of Mexican blood...and I think all illegals need to stop complaining, go home, and not come back here until they're legal. They hurt regular Americans by taking jobs that would otherwise offer decent wages to those with less education or those who just prefer to work with their hands instead of sitting behind a desk.
663254
Yes, this is a yahoo war because I am totally against illegals right to work in the United States and every AMERICAN, it does not matter what race, should feel the same.\n\n But, however I do like tequila!! And usually end up on the floor!!\n\nBOOBOOLUBEAR, THAT HAPPENS IN OTHER COUNTRIES TOO!!!DUH!!! AMERICANS CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT TO BECAUSE WE PAY FOR THAT RIGHT TO BEAR CHILDREN AND I BELIEVE WE SHOULD SUPPORT OUR CHILDREN. THE MEXICAN GOVT DOES NOT SUPPORT OUR CHILDREN AND FAMILY!!!!!