These are facts:\n\nImmigrants contribute 7 billion in social security per year. they earn 240 billion, report 90 billion, and only are reimbursed 5 billion, "where are the 85 billion?"  They also  contribute to the U.S. economy 25 billion more than they receive in healthcare, etc., etc., etc.  According to the anti-immigrant politicians and hatemongers, "immigrants are a drain on society."  If this is true, then during the day on May 1st the stock market will surge, and the economy will boom.  If not, we prove them wrong once and for all.  We know what will happen! \n\nAll the people who say that they will buy more things on that May 1 are just AFRAID of what will really happen. If are not scared they will not say that.\n\n\nWant to visit the page where a got this information? \n\nWhen you go to this page it is going to tell you that you have to install a language pack , press cancel and it is going to show you the page in English.\n\nhttp://www.nohr4437.org/
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You have two different sides, touting two very biased sources... the facts are that some do pay taxes... some do not... it's silly to compare it to the European immigration because America was accepting so many immigrants then, compared to the small number now... \nAnd just because something is a law, doesn't nescisarily make it a good law... that the law in that one city that ducks have to wear pants...\nWho is benifiting most, American employers who abuse the labor from immigrants... \nwho is being hurt, probably the taxpayers to some degree... but it's probably the least of America's problems when it comes to overspending... \nI would rather give it to the illegal immigrants than in tax cuts and grants to the oil companies... those guys are much bigger crooks than any immigrants, and they are doing it "legally"... hahaha
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ilegal imigrants PAY 99 % OF EVERY TAX THERE IS and get nothing back come tax time, all that money from every single check they took from them.. GONE. \nall they get back is a bunch of racist people calling them names, because they work their asses off to feed their families, and risk alot in doing so, including being killed by armed civillians,militia style.\nso much for the land of the free.\nimmigrants do hundreds of jobs that the average american take for granted, if they didnt, your life as it is would change drastically.
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Don't even get me started.  I have so many problems with the immigration problem in the US I am not even sure where to begin.  The bottom line is that we spend billions on social welfare programs for people that contribute nothing more to this country than provide cheap labor.  I don't think it is unreasonable to ask that these folks go thru the legal immigration progress, and then become a productive "tax paying" citizen.
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I agree with some, but not all of your thoughts...\n\n1) when they come here and work, they are paying taxes - it gets taken out of their paychecks. So does Social Security. \n2) when they go to the store here, they pay taxes, just like you and I. Same thing at the gas pumps, liquor stores, mall, etc. Its not like they come here, work and take the money to Mexico to go grocery shopping. So, they are contributing to the economy - more so than rich folks in America that hide all their money so they DONT have to pay taxes. \n3) they are humans...they have HUMAN RIGHTS. \n\nLast study I read said that Illegals contriubute $90 BILLION dollars to Social Security a year, and only receive $5 BILLION in outside aide. That leaves $85 BILLION to the rest of us. Im also willing to bet that there are more African Americans in our prison system than illegal immigrants - so they are obviously following our laws, despite having "jumped a border." At least they arent killing each other over gang territory or robbing their own people or getting over on charities like wwhats been going on with all the Katrina aide...\n\nNow that I think about it, I dont agree at all with you!
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That's only in LA. So, even though you say big numbers like 29%,90% etc. and fractions like 2/3 you fail to mention that the population is significantly made up illegal immigrants and besides they cannot get out of paying state taxes when purchasing. You are also failing to mention the fact that even though 40% of workers in LA (legal or illegal) get paid cash and don't pay taxes, the US "entrepreneurs" who employ them also get out of paying that portion (and even more than the employee) of social security, medicare, state disability, insurance, EDD and Regular Payroll Fees, and certain minimal benefits that are usually provided with any job. To cut this one short it ends up that you benefit from this whole thing too (you can figure that one out on your own... I hope).\n\nOh your comment about Mexican people not being able to run a government, it's more like the Mexican govt. can't run the country. Mexico's govt. has it's share of problems, more than the US and still the Mexican people know it's the govt. and don't blame their problems on the flow of illegal immigrants crossing the border from South America in to Mexico. (=_=)
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This is all trash to get the focus on illegal immigrants. The economy is going to hell because of a trillion dollar deficit from the pointless war and that is incomparable compared to the millions illegals mooch off the health care system.\n\nhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848\n\n\nThe rate of illegal immigration has not changed, yet all the stories suddenly switched to illegal immigrant problems in the news. This is a political switch for when blame time comes and the economy is doing horrible, people will blame immigrants instead of the massive accumulated debt killing our soldiers to protect some random countries oil for exxon.\n\n\n\nillegals work cheap. The companies get more profits. The companies have to pay more taxes. Taxes pays the illegals healthcare. Blame the companies that employ them cheap if you have a problem with that and demand they give them healthcare like any citizen. Right now they work for slave labor prices and get hurt, just like anyone else.\n\n\nThe fence will be the largest most vandalized project ever and a waste of tax money. Immigrants what a better life forever. Fences won't stop them.
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Pancha, I am not talking about the 4% here. I am talking about multiplying that by family not yet here, and by the HUGE increase from the Senate Bill proposed guest worker program.  I think the illegals except those we are really willing to root out (the awful ones) are going to be here legalization or not, so the impact is already here.  My focus is on the future immigration level. This is not just a 'lets make it a little easier'.  This is a 'let's flood the market so we can pay peanuts, like China does' and there is no hope that won't impact us, particularly when the baby boomers retire and need the social services they have been paying into all of their lives.  Read this.  I MEAN it: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1109.cfm
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I do not agree with this guy^^^^^yeah they might have been doing all these great things but you have to remember that in those times, mostly all women stayed home and took care of their children while their husbands went to work. Nowadays most women work all day...because a lot of them choose to..to have more money...so if all these women start working the income goes up in a home...the prices for living go up and it's a never ending circle......most of them have NO time to come home, being tired, and clean houses which is usually populated with 2 or more children. So they go and hire a nanny.....and not one who will charge a lot....one who will charge them a lesser amount because they don't want to empty their pockets.......IT's all about being selfish and you know that. Why do companies hire employees who will work for a lower wage?....cause the more money you got the more you want to have and keep....and a lot of these companies have people who invest their money on them and an investor wants results, profits,.....and if the person who is in charge of running the company is not giving them the results that they want.....well they have a great chance of loosing their job to someone who is competent and can give them the output and results the investors want. Don't start blaming all the mexicans for america's problems, as far as I know, mexicans aren't the only people immigrating to america so stop saying it's thier fault. All this blame should be put on the US GOVERNMENT, and you know why! They are aware and have been aware for the past 40 years that there is a shi* load of immigrants coming in through the southern, northern borders....coming in through our ports, and even people who come here as tourists with a passport that never go back.....and they didn't and still haven't done anaything about it...so if you say that americans are so great because they have done so many things for this economy...well where were they when they elected the president and their senators? Because it's the american people who chose them...not us....(the immigrants).....so for this guy up here if you want to blame the immigrants I say do some research before you start typing away....the only ones responsible for this are the Greedy Coroporations/companies/investors and the GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!!IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!!
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" (i'm sure most of these comments are from people who are on the assistance and aren't working"\n\nWrong Answer Sweetie\n\nCITIZEN TAXPAYERS Fund The VERY Systems That Your Shootin Your UNINFORMED Mouth Off About\n\nHEALTH, EDUCATION, And WELFARE Are Set Up For, And FUNDED By\nTAXPAYERS So The Children Of CITIZENS Get Medical Benefits,\nAnd The Children Of CITIZENS Get An Education, And The Children Of CITIZENS Get Welfare Benefits (WIC Etc.)\n\nIts NOT Set Up For ILLEGAL Immigrants To Have Their Babies So They Can Get Free Benefits Out Of The Pockets Of TAXPAYERS\n\nThose Programs Are There For CITIZENS And WE THE PEOPLE Are NOT Going To Allow You To Take ADVANTAGE Of Us Any Longer\n\n\nLet Me FURTHER Educate Your Dumb@$$ And  Explain To You That Unemployment IS NOT HIGH\n\nILLEGAL Immigrants Comprise 5 Percent Of The Workforce\nAnd The Unemployment Rate Is 4.7 Percent\n\nCan YOU Do The Math??? Let Me Do It FOR You\nDEPORT ALL ILLEGALS--Unemployment Drops To ZERO \n\nStop BASHING Hardworking American Citizens\n\nGet An Education, Youve Got ALOT To Learn
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It is OUT of the USA revenue FOREVER!! That is one way the illegal immigrants and anyone else who sends OUR revenue OUT of this country are destroying our economy!!\n\nangela R - up yours  t(-_-t) ,you ignoramus.
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Well, im american, and we have a lot of debate always going on about immigration policy here too. I know little of canadian immigration matters, however, if it helps, most{not all} immigrants to usa dont contribute much but cheap labor, however, there children usually assimilate very quickly, and that generation becomes contributing tax paying citizens. So, if your an optimist,  it can be looked at as an investment in the future.
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The Social Security crisis is not a myth, it's an inevitability of demographics that there will be more people drawing than paying in to it in the future.  The so called trust fund has been invested in very low yielding bonds for a long time, mostly so Congress could have access to the money to hide deficits (both parties share blame equally for this).  Generally speaking the average person  would be able to get a better return on on that money in a self directed IRA, 401K plan, or buying annuities.
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WOW....Hayleyhate is on a roll today.  \n\nI don't think ALL Americans are afraid....I think those Americans who lack compassion and sensiblity are.  I know...I know...I am going to get the "illegal rhetoric and it's my backyard why can't they play in theirs".  \n\nSimple fact is....these people are not draining our economy...89 percent of the time they are making it more diverse and pleasant.  They CAN'T apply for aid illegally, they CAN'T get housing illegally, they CAN'T get Medicaid and so on.  \n\nI will say it now and will probably say it again...you are not going to kick out 11 million people.....Hell Bush even said it. So instead of griping and whining come up with a plausible solution that you can submit to your representatives and then "get over it".
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Immigrants legal or not do a whole lot of jobs that 99% of Americans wouldn't do and even if we somehow forced everyone of the unemployed to work there wouldn't be enough people to fill ALL the jobs that immigrants do.\n\nThe US economy wouldn't crash per se but would be placed in a serious world of hurt. \n\nThank God for all the hard working immigrants in our country. Remember that ALL OF OUR FOREFATHER WERE IMMIGRANTS!
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Because people is too freaking stupid to see pass their noses. Our nation was established by IMMIGRANTS! Jez!? Give me a break! I have friends who are immigrant workers and let me tell you been an immigrant is not easy at all, yes they do pay taxes, yes they do work their butts off doing what "little white boys" doesn't like to do! Immigrants are the reason why the US is the way it is, if it wasn't for them the US economy would drop inmensenly! I wish that all the immigrants did went back to their home countries...and I want to see the US survive! As soon as ALL the immigrants are gone the US is going to go downhill. Because the US depends of those immigrants as much as the immigrants depend of the US. It's a vicious cycle and you know what people....It's giving us the way of living that we have!
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britain is going the way of most of euroope. The promise of social support and medical coverage is more than the government can handle.  Immigration fills jobs that others do not want.  But what people do not recognise is that the immigrants have plans to better themselves while too many people sit back and expect the government to take care of them.  Anyone that does not work at getting better will end up falling into the muck.  You make the future.  By getting more valuable to society the chance of success is increased. Do not blame others for your sitting still.
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Your right we mexicans are very united and we believe in family. We will work as hard as possible to abe able to give our families a better life. I see it every day when American decide to kick out there 18 year old or I also see American divorced parents who either mom or dad do not want to help support there own children. I see more homeless white folks then anything else. In California I do not see a mexican begging for money why because me have to much pride for that. Our saying is We will rather die on our feet then live our lives on our knees. Please give respect to the people who are making your economy stronger. As for people who say that the dont pay taxes. Well guess what i work in a tax office and there are ways they do it. The apply for EIN but they are never able to receive disabilty, social secuirty or unemployment. They don't complain. If we do send illegals back then you american will be paying $75.00 for a bag of tomatoes.