I'm so tired of christians touting how they are so loving and kind and accepting.  In reality they are some of the meanest nastiest people I've ever met.  They have crushed so many other cultures and peoples in the quest their self-appointed "rightness".  I'm gay and so I have bore the rath of SO many of them.  Who says their ideas and beliefs are right or the only acceptable religion?  I for one will not be told what to think or how to live.
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People who are only religious tend to be that way.\n\nIt is not so with true Christians. The only problem is that there are so many religious people out there giving the true Christains and Jesus himself a bad name.\n\nIt was the same way in Jesus' time. Jesus constantly rebuked the religious people of His day. They fought all of the time. But Jesus himself was not like them at all. \nEven still, people are still flawed, but Jesus is not. HIs love is perfect and unfailing. He loves you like crazy, no matter what anyone else says or does.\nGod bless.
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When your fellow christians are condemning you for being gay you should point out that none of them are living by the word of God either. I'm pretty sure God frowns on divorce, adultery, and a lot of other stuff that christians do all the time. According to God's word you're not even supposed to work on the sabbath, but they're not trying to ammend the constitution to enforce that rule, are they? They are using their religion as a moral cloak to hide their homophobia. Doesn't it seem strange that they crusade against homosexuality, but have nothing to say about any of the other sins people commit daily. Why do you want to be a part of all this nonsense anyway? Find your own path.
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Well, I didn't have to open the above link to know what it would say.\n\nYour question was extremely eloquent, and very valid to question these things.\n\nIn all fairness, I gave up on religion (at least my religion, catholicism, anyways), as I did not agree with many of their outdated views. They continue to ban homosexuality, rating it as a sin, and continue not to allow women priests.\n\nBeing gay myself, I know, as you know yourself, that this is how you are made. This is who you are. No amount of praying or trying to be anything else is ever going to change that.\n\nDeep down, I think we all know that this is how God made us. Infedelity, murder, greed, all easy to see how they are sins - they are perpetrated and can be redeemed... but wanting to be in loving relationships with members of your own sex - I could never understand how sinful that is.\n\nI know this is how I always was, I know that there is a lot of good I do in my life, and I try to lead a good and honest one, by being kind to my fellow human beings, respecting them, and overall trying to do some good.  The fact that I want to spend my life with a man instead of a woman - well I am positive that if I'm going to hell, it won't be because of this - how can it possibly? \n\nThe people on this earth who say we will go to hell, have not personally died and witnessed where straight and gay people go after they die. Hence they have no authority to tell us what will happen to us in an afterlife, and your guess is as good as theirs.\n\nAt least you know this is who you are - do not fight it, live a good and happy life, try to do good and live a moral life - one that you will be happy and fulfilled with, not one you will be miserable in and struggle to overcome something that is not overcomable. And know that while some will think you are sinning, there are others who are sure you are not. Its all opinion anyway.\n\nNo quoting bibles guys, the law of the bible is more strict than what is being practiced now anyway - statements such as slavery being acceptable are clearly wrong in this day and age, so why can people selectively discard these statements but hold onto its thoughts about homosexuality?\n\nToo many youths are depressed and sometimes comitting suicide due to society's inacceptance to gays. This has got to end. It's been a long time coming.
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Let's see if I have this correct, a Christian student is suing her school for the right to harass gays?  And, there are people here hiding behind their Bible and defending this?  Just when I think humanity can't possibly surprise me, I come here and read ignorant and hateful comments and find out I haven't heard it all yet.\n\nLet me ask everyone this question.  If my religion said that I should be as intolerant and hateful to Christians as humanly possible, would you be supporting me if I sued my school? I highly doubt it.  \n\nI believe in expressing an opinion, what I don't believe in is being harassing and intolerant as part of voicing that opinion.  If you don't like gay people, fine, nobody is forcing you to.  Oh, those terrible gays, they want to be treated like human beings.  That's just horrible.  So, to make up for it, some people want the right to insult and berate them while using their Bibles as as shield.  Nope, sorry, bigotry is bigotry no matter whether you're hiding behind a book or not.
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I am very open to having logical, intelligent conversations, and even debates, with people that respect MY belief as well.\n\nI respect people's right to believe what they want, and have no problems with it until they begin condemning, name-calling, or just being outright rude (the whole sit down and shut up comment from my brother/sister would get a good butt-kicking...).\n\nIt is sad and disturbing that SOME Christians find it easier to just hate everyone who is different from themselves then to actually LEARN something new.  Ask questions, discuss thoughts...etc.  It's not hard, but I think that they are intolerant of difference.\n\nOn top of that, I feel that they fear challenges.  They may not be secure enough in their faith to understand others, as well as defend theirs when the going gets tough.  Again, this is not all Christians, just the ones who feel we are attacking them by our very existance.\n\nI think it will be a cold day in their hell before they ALL respect us COMPLETELY.  All we can do is continue smiling and be the better person.  We are strong enough in our non-beliefs to continue on with our lives without hating people for their choices.  They are the ones that, according to them, have to live with their choices in the "afterlife".
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The amount of friggen judgemental people on this question and answer thing.."Oh, If your not a Christian?"...or "Oh ,Why are gay people?"... or "Oh, Why are black people?" ....My question is how are we ever going to get past all this stupid judgment of people and start embracing each other's differences? I LOVE that my children live in a word of diversety. I am just so sick of people that think that there is only ONE way to believe, be, or act!!! Thanks for the space to let me vent!!!!
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Wow-very very true! I can't believe you picked up on that.I thought I was the only one. \n\nyou are very perceptive. Don't Libs understand that it's Christianity that makes them act that way?\n\neverybody listen to this guy-he knows what he's talking about.
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It is very sad indeed that these statements hold so much truth. Just because someone says they are Christian does not mean they are Christ like although that is what the bible teaches us to be. All through out the Word of God we are taught love. I believe because of a few who are ready to condemn or judge others they are defeating the purpose of true Christianity. We are not suppose to turn any away and still there are those that do. Then again the bible says that many will knock but few will enter. I personally apologize to all who have been hurt by someone claiming to have done so for religions sake. The God I serve is a God of love and He loves each and every one of us no matter what our flaws. I'm sure that when He sees someone turning away from Him because of something said or done He is truly heartbroken and disappointed.
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Yeah, i'm tired of ultra religious christians being closed minded and pushing there ideas on me. They do help, but no more than your average man. Christians think they are above everyone, a lot don't realize we are here to help each other.
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It's amazing.   No wonder people turn their backs on religion.  When you get remarks like this, it's no wonder why gay people will not listen to Christians.  Simply put, they are tired of being put down all the time.   If you could actually talk to one, and explain to them why YOU think it's wrong, than they might listen to you, if you were to be non-judgemental, and listen to them.  \n\nInstead of just saying you are going to hell, you better be able to back up any statements you make.  For example, don't tell me the bible says so.  PROVE to me that the bible says so, and we might have common ground to stand on.   I personally will not listen to some hypocrite who tells me that I am going to hell because the bible says so.  All I hear is blah, blah, blah.     Amazing, how Christians are the first people to usually judge someone else, although Christ commanded "Do not Judge."   See Ezekiel 7:27, , Matt 12:36, John 8:15, Romans 2:1-5.
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Yes, im very sick of it...I know this is america, and we do have freedom of speech, but making someone feel like theyre less than human because they have different beliefs is just wrong...example: Ive seen plenty of atheists saying horrible things to christians...one person (and I use that term VERY loosely) had an entire poem called "F*** The creationists"...and one girl even suggested that all christians should be eaten for being so stupid (kinda reminds me of the ancient romans who sentenced christians to be eaten by lions for having religion...and we dont want to go back to THAT now do we?)...and then theres the name calling (sheep, morons, cowards etc.)and insults claiming that christians cannot think for themselves... they seem very chidish to me...personally, as a christian-type, im very capable of thinking for myself, because I have CHOSEN to believe in something that most people do not understand...Also, in this country theres a little thing called freedom of religion, meaning people of faith should not be ridiculed for their beliefs...Atheists always complain that Christians force their beliefs on others, when meanwhile theyre very hypocrytically forcing their non- belifes on christians...frankly, I dont belive in forcing my religion on others, actually, I think people who do that are worse than athiests...I believe in having your own opinions, but also giving others the respect that they deserve...and id apreciate it if others would return the favor...my message to all atheists: contrary to your beliefs, you DONT know everything...and one day youll realize that...but untill then, stop being so unfair, childish and FRIGGIN mean...yes I can be one pissed off Christian sometimes...
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I think you are wrong. True there are some Christians who try every chance they get to cram down your throat their version of their religion. And is it also true that in other religions that same type of narrow middle zealots exist. So the problem really is one of the zealots not getting along and not the billions of us left in the world who do get along.
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ok spud, its not just 'gay' people.  it's people in general.\n\nyears ago i was an unhappy Baptist.  being baptist just wasn't doing it for me and i had been born and raised in that faith.\n\na lot of the baptists i knew were mean spirited and hateful. they also had the "we're the only ones going to heaven" attitude.  i began looking for another faith.  that is a HARD thing to do, believe me.\n\ni worked in a pharmacy where one of the employees was obnoxious about his protestant faith.  if you asked him how he was he'd say "He was fine ever since he became a Christian." if you asked him what he knew he'd say "I know I'm saved."  and on and on and on.  there were also a couple of Catholics that worked in the pharmacy.  when steve the protestant was telling people why they were going to hell the Catholics never were mean or hateful to anyone. they accepted everyone, it seemed.  they accepted me---even though i didn't know what i was and they accepted steve even when he was telling them they worshipped statues.\n\ni thought to myself, there has got to be something to what these people believe, i want whatever that is for myself.\n\ni asked them how i could learn more about the Catholic Church and they told me about classes that were given at the local parish.  i went and talked to the priest and he signed me right up.  six months of classes later, i knew i'd found what i was looking for.  i joined the Catholic Church way back in 1980 and its been an important part of my life ever since.\n\nso---i don't think its just gays.  Catholics seem to be tolerant of just about everybody.  And that's a good thing.
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Yes, I'm sick of it.\n\n"Are you happy?"\nYes, very much so.  I have a loving husband, a beautiful son, walls all around me and a roof over my head.  My son has toys, food, clothes, protection, love, everything he needs.  I have friends, I have hobbies, I have talents, I have conversations.  I'm quite happy.\n\n"Do you have good morals?"\nYes I believe I do.  Some may not agree with me on political points, but generally I've been characterized as a very moral person.  Mind you, these were mostly Christians who told me I'm moral so I think I've demonstrated a solid morality at least to those who hold atheists to a particularly higher standard.\n\n"How on earth is that possible if "God" isn't a part of your life?"\nContrary to popular belief, happiness and contentment is attainable without the Christian God.  I know several Buddhists, Wiccans, atheists, agnostics, even a couple Satanists, who are good, moral, happy people.  They require no Judeo-Christian deity.\n\n"Do you find that thinking slightly ridiculous?"\nOh, not just slightly.  HUGELY.
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Hi Jenny,\n\nYou are super even though you seem to dislike the christians, all the words you mentioned are nasty characters of a person, you hate all these characters , so you must be wonderful .\n\nBut we should remember that if a person is obnoxious and he says he is a christian you know that he isn't one, even if he insists on being a christian . \n\nAnd if a person is really a christian he cannot be obnoxious.\n\nPriests who molest children aren't christians for sure, they have all those robes on'em, look like christians , act as Christ's ambassador's on planet earth, but sorry , you have to act like christ so you can show people like Jenny that real christians are lovely people and if you don't do so then God help you .\n\nHope the best for you Jenny.
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i'm not religious at all, but i agree with you on all points. God seems to be love, but it's the followers that seem to abuse the message.\n\nprobably out of fear they condemn everything that strikes them as weird, with a bible in their hand.\n\ni'm from Holland, a country that is (thank god) very liberated to the gay people. But even there, i see the narrow-mindedness of gay-bashing. I have some gay-friends, some of them are even married to eachother. \n\nSometimes i even have the feeling that their love must be more pure than any hetero-sexual love, because the homosexuals had to do many hard steps to be with their loved-ones. The coming out, the elling it to the parents, living in doubt for years before coming-out, being ridiculed by society day in day out....\n\nmost people condemn homosexuals, because a group of them is very open about sex. these people that condemn that, never seem to realize that that same homosexual had to hide his feelings of sexuality for years and years, untill he came-out. It must be the same as people living in a land where a dictator rules, and they finally got rid of the dictator. these people we see always cheering on the streets the first day, feeling relieved, yet still insecure of the future.\n\nwith coming out, it probably feels like that. a feeling of relief, and at the same time the feeling of 'and now what'. I can't blame them for wanting to scream their sexuality of the roofs, after having to hide those feelings for years.\n\nIt's society, and specially christian society that does these people harm. I always wonder how christians would feel if i told them that their act of love is a sin. i always wonder if they would be able to stop sinning, as they always tell the gay-community.\n\nit's sick!\n\nchristians make it hard on this big group of people, who obviously don't deserve that. \n\none of my gay friends is married and would love to adopt a kid. i know he's great with children and i know he would make a very good father. He just chose, by himself, that he would never adopt a child, because he doesn't want the child to grow up in world where the child will be teased at school for having two fathers. \nThat is, in my opinion, the greates act of love i ever seen. giving up a dream, in the interest of a child he never even met. It's also a sick act, because it's caused by a judging society.\n\nand i can go on and on complaining about all this. i even asked a lot of quetsion about the subject in this Q&A-thingy, trying to disprove that the bible condemns homosexuality. But i found out that these zealot-christians don't even read, listen or think, they only judge based on an old book.\n\nif i truly admit: seeing two guys kissing on the streets is like a grose thing to watch. i can't help that, i truly find it grose to see. but at least i also try to look beyond what strikes me as grose, and see the true love that two human-beings can have for eachother.\n\ni actually wonder what homosexuals ever did to christians, to deserve this treatment. i can't figure that one out.\nthese christians always say 'we love the sinner, but he hate the sin' or whatever. In that way they try to justify their own condemning. i really don't see what gives them the right to even call it 'sin'. \n\nLove can never be a sin. Never!\n\n(sorry for the long answer, but during the typing i got just as angry as you got during asking this question, i guess)
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I have seen some "religious" people bash gays and do nothing but hate them, but the true Christian does not hate anyone at all, and they do not bash anyone either. Gay people feel that way because that is what has happened to them from people who claim to love God...but the word of God is REAL clear..."anyone who hates their brother is a murderer". It also says "if you can not love your brother, who you can see, you can not love God, who you can not see."...anyone who claims to be holy and hates is a liar and deceives himself.