I have never been able to understand this. I had no idea you could still call yourself a christian and think that Jesus and God are not the same person. I remember asking my grandmother why people thought Jesus was God and she looked at me like I had two heads. I do believe Jesus was real. I do believe his message was sincere. But, I do not believe Jesus is God. I pray to God. and I thank Jesus for the opportunity to....make sense to anyone?
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The title 'god' or 'God' can be applied to Jesus. It's like the title Atty. (Psalm 82:1-6) But Jesus is not God Almighty. He admits to the following:\n1. He is a worshipper of the Almighty God, Jehovah. (John 20:17 ?)\n2.His Father is greater than he is. (John 14:28)\n3. He does not have the authority to appoint who will sit at his right hand. Only his Father has that authority. (Matthew 20:20-23)\n\nHe was seen by many. Whereas no one can see God and live. (Exodus 33:20?)\n\nThrow away the concept of a Trinity. It confuses many. Further, it is pagan in origin and therefor unclean in God's eyes.\n\nhave a good day.
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Jesus did not worship himself and either do I.  I worship the God that he worshiped.  I am a folower of Jesus (peace be upon him) but not a Christian.\n\nJust like he said "the father is greater than me." enough said.
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No, Jesus is not God and he is not to be worshipped. Worship to God is to be done THROUGH Jesus because Jesus is the mediator between God and mankind. The Bible makes it very clear that Jesus Christ is not God Almighty. Jesus is the very first of God's creations and the second most powerful being in all the universe. Jesus is a being separate and distinct from his Father and the Bible makes abundantly clear. True Christians follow Jesus' example in directing their worship not to Jesus, but to Jehovah God. \n\nTrue Christians do not adhere to a ridiculous, God-dishonoring teaching of man such as the trinity, which dares to put God and Christ on equal footing, something the Bible doesn't do, nor did Christ.
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Jesus is not God.\n\nGod does not die. So if Jesus was God how could he be dead? That means God is dead?\n\nIt was said in the old 'non-corrupt' Bible that Jesus was NOT divine. He was a mortal prophet sent from God. God did not allow the Jews to crucify him. God then sent him back to heaven and replaced him by the person who suggested Jesus' death.and altered his physical appearance. That person who was crucified is whom people worship. \n\nI just can't understand the arrogance of people. You all know that the Bible is corrupt. Constantine and his fellow members of the supreme Roman court actually wrote the Bible and added some stuff of their Sun worship religion. They kept a few Gospels that Jesus said..\n\nThere is only one God. Jesus said and it still exists in the Bible but in a modified way that after him a mortal prophet will come and his name is "Ahmed" which is another name for Muhammed. Muhammed is a prophet sent from God just like Abraham, Moses, Jesus etc.. They were sent to show people the right path that is to worship God alone.\n\nAnother misconcept many of my fellow users believe. Jesus is NOT son of God. God is divine and does not reproduce but creates. We are servants of God. God created us and this universe.\n\nJesus is NOT son of God. If he is then why couldn't God save him? Why would God sacrifice his only Son??? Because he is NOT God's son!! Where is God's wife? Where did they get married? Where is Gods father?\n\nCome to your senses. God gave you a mind, the most powerful thing in the world. God gave you a mind to think with. Use it wisley
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Right! Each religion says there is only one God, they just disagree on what this God's name is and how it/He should be worshipped. One thing all religions say though is that their god is LOVE and His message is love... nonetheless their most devout followers (are they one's with the most love?) go forth and kill each other in His name. Go figure huh! Incidentally Jesus was a prophet not a God. Read the Bible- he and his apostles are quite emphatic in making the point that Jesus was NOT God. Some christians have other ideas though. It's a power issue.\n\nIt would also be funny to see what happened if Jesus came back because he would NOT be a christian. Christianity was created in the decades/centuries after Christ based upon other folks interpretations of his rumoured teachings. So Christ was not preaching Christianity- it didn't exist at the time and christianity today does not actually conform to his teachings. He'd most likely be a Buddhist if anything.
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Jesus was telling his people that he was teaching the true spiritual way to God.\nAnd also saying that the religion had been corrupt, listen to what he teaches and follow his example in life.\nNot to think he was a GOD!! That would be a sin.\nNot sure if anyone remembers but he was on a quest to go back and follow the old ways.\nHe was trying to teach people the old ways, and you all screwed it up!
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This actually seems to prove what you ask, just think about it. You got me to thinking and it is really cool. People have asked, IF, Jesus was God how was He praying to Himself. Your question help me see this because I have never thought to put these two questions together. IF, God can be everywhere, then He was Jesus and God at the same time. God in Heaven and Jesus on Earth. Which would prove the Theory that God is Everywhere. I not sure if I answered your question, but, now I understand the Concept I have been hearing. God may have showed people His ability to be everywhere when as Jesus He Prayed to Himself (God) in another place, because He is everywhere. Thanks!
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Jesus was Never God the Father or God the Son, Nor did he or his Disciples say that he was God! Rather he was the SON OF God!. Some questions to reason on: \n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord."\n\nThe words "our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him. Jesus didn't say "Your God". He said "our God" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD.\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in John 20:17 Jesus said I ascend to my God and your God? This tells us that Jesus and we have a common GOD. John also tells us that the Only True God, Yahweh, is not only our God and Father, but He is also the God and Father of our Messiah, Yahoshua.\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in John 14:28 Jesus said "My Father (GOD) is greater than I"?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in Luke 23:46 Jesus said "Father (GOD), into thy hands I commend my spirit"?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 19:16 Jesus said "Why call me good, there is none good but One,\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 26:39 Jesus begged his GOD to have mercy on him and to pass the cup to death (kill Jesus in another words) before Jesus goes through the pain of crucifixion?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in John 18:38 he didn't reply when he was asked about the truth?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 24:36 Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in Isaiah 11:2-3 GOD had put the spirit of fearing GOD in Jesus?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:31 Jesus told his followers that if he (Jesus) bears witness of himself, then his record is not true?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:30 Jesus told his followers that he can't do a single thing of his own initiative?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:32 Jesus told his followers that they have never seen GOD at anytime nor ever heard his voice?\n\nIf Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 26:39 Jesus fell on his face and prayed to his GOD?\n\nThe "God" (theos in Greek) title literally with Jesus in Isiah 9:6 and they don't take it literally for the rest of the prophets and people who were called Gods?\n\nKing David in Psalm 45:3 Note: The only unique title given to GOD in the Bible that was not given to others at all are Jehovah, GOD, and GOD LORD. "God", "Most Mighty" and "Almighty One" are titles that were given to Jesus, other Prophets and to Satan himself in the Bible.\n\nIf Jesus is also equal to his father in terms of God-ship, why at John 17:1, 3 in prayer to his father (God) that he refers to his father as the “ONLY true God”. John tells us according to the Savior Himself that the Father is the 'Only True God,' NOT the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit but the Father ALONE is the Only True God.\n\nFinally, John ends his gospel; by telling us the reason for his writing it. So that we might believe that Jesus is part of a mystery god made up of 2 or 3 different beings? NO, not at all, but rather the reason he wrote his gospel was to prove to us that Jesus is the Messiah (Christ) \nJohn 20:30 Many other signs therefore did Jesus in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book:  John 20:31 but these are written, that ye may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God; and that believing ye may have life in his name.
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As a Christian, my church believes that Jesus and God are two separate beings.  During the early years of Christianity, there was a great debate regarding the godhead.  Were the Son, the Father, and Holy Ghost separate beings or a single being (Trinity).  The Emperor Constantine, under political pressure, ruled in favor of the Trinity theory, a ruling which has dictated the beliefs of a majority of Christian sects.  However, on his deathbed, Constantine recanted his decision and declared his belief for the the three separate beings theory.\n\nBelief in the separation theory causes one problem:  It means there is more than one deity.  However, this should not be a concern for most Christians because "God" is a relative term, referring to our specific deity.  For us, there is only one God.  (There may only be one Sun, but there are many stars).\n\nThe Trinity theory quotes the Bible where they repeatedly say that Jesus and God are "one".  However, it is clear that this translation is intended to mean "one in purpose" or "one in belief" or "one in love" etc.  This is evident when looking at other scriptures that say that Jesus and his apostle were "one".  Certainly, the Bible did not mean that Jesus physically merged with one of his apostles.\n\nHope this was helpful!
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I see where you are going with this, but your logic is faulty.\n\nYes - He is saying that some people will claim to know Him, but as he just got done saying a few verses earlier, they won't have been doing the will of His Father, and which means they don't truly know Him, they only think they do.\n\nTwo observations:\n\n1)  That does not mean that all Christians will not be acknowledged by the Messiah - only that some who claim to be Christians won't.\n\n2)  That does not mean that there are any other ways to God.  Jesus was also very clear about that:\n\n  * John 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."\n\n   * John 14:6 "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me"\n\nI see that you honor Jesus as a Prophet, when you write "PBUH" (Peace Be Unto Him) after His name.  How do handle the knowledge that Jesus claimed to: 1) have the authority to forgive sins (something only God can do), 2) said He and the Father were one (John 10:30), and 3) claimed God granted him the authority to lay down his life  - and - take it up again (John 10:17-18).\n\nIgnoring whether or not He proved those things with the Resurrection (and there is evidence He did), these claims are very bold.  I can see two possibilities.  Either 1) These were not true (in which case you should not be saying "Peace Be Unto Him" every time you mention his name, for he was a Blasphemer, or 2) What he said was true, and he was God in human form come to save mankind.\n\nAs a Muslim, how do you handle that?
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Jesus is not God, he is the Son of God who lived upon this earth to be a testimony to God's existence, grace, and purpose in our lives.  He struggled with demons and temptations the same as we do now. He walked the walk of man so that he could be a testimony to God's power and greatness, His forgiveness and love.  He worships God, not himself.
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I have waited to answer this question to see what others would say. It is interesting. Unless you have a personal relationship with me, you really do not know me, just "about me", which is the same thing with Jesus. \nI genuinely thank those who spoke such kind and gracious words, I am humbled and grateful. \nOK, to answer, we will start at the beginning. I have always assumed there was a God. I was raised initially in the Catholic church, but I did not like the repetitive rituals or the standing when the priest walks in. My mother did not force me to continue the Catechism classes, and I continued my search for God into my teens. \nOn Thanksgiving evening, 1970, I was cruising in my friend Steve's 1955 T-bird around the towns surrounding Eglin AFB, Florida. We walked around an old cemetary and we got to talking about the spirit world. It sort of gave me the shivers. Steve asked me if I had ever been "saved". What is that? It is asking Jesus Christ into your heart. Something inside me said, "Isn't that what you have been looking for all your life?" That night, I asked Jesus into my heart and to be my Lord and Savior.\n\nMy approach to the Bible changed over the years. Before I met Jesus, it was a confusing array of religious writings and myths. \nAfter I met Jesus, it became a curious array of religious writings that may be true. \nAfter receiving the Holy Spirit a year later, it became personal love letters to me. \nDuring my high school years, it became a book of do's and don'ts that I could not quite live up to. \nDuring my college years, I came upon my mentor Chuck Smith, of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, who guided me through the Bible, verse by verse. The Bible became my life and foundation for living.\nDuring my single working years, I graduated to my next mentor Chuck Missler, who showed me the importance of types, how the old relates to the new, how the Bible is an intrigate message by One author. The Bible WAS and proved to be the Word of God! \nFive years under him and other great teachers, and I married Julie (Juliart). I was have been blessed to pass on all I have learned her and to my children and also to people stuck in cults, those confused by manipulative religions, and see the freedom the Word of God brings. \nThirty five years since that night in Florida, I have decided to pass all I have learned on to you. But in all things, be like the Bereans in Acts 17:11. Receive everything I have to give with joy, but check the scriptures daily to see if these things are true. I consider what I impart here as "Handfuls Dropped on Purpose" (see study below).\n\nSo to answer this question once and for all. I am just like my other fellow Christians who just love the Bible and have a personal walk with its Author. An old Jesus Freak from the 70s who's life's motto is...\n\n"Have Bible, Will Babble."\n\npregowtwins-Julie cracked up at your post. I could hear her across the house!\nmikeiam20-Your post reminded me of a line in Close Encounters. "Einstein was probably one of them." (looking at the alien mothership) ;)
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The apostles after his death continuously referred to him as he Son of God.  But I look for a more logical way.  The scriptures said that Jesus was without sin and that he had no deception in him.  If that is true and it is, why did he always refer to God as the Father if indeed he was not. And why did the Father always refer to Jesus as his son if he wasn't?  If Jesus was not praying to His father as he said he was, would that be deception? Yes! If at the time of his baptism and voice came out of the heavens and said in effect, This is my beloved Son, if that is not true, is it deception?  Some say it is a MYSTERY and can't be explained.  the real mystery is how anyone can belief such rubbish that God and the Son are the same.  The only place that it says that I (Jesus speaking) and the Father are One, is referring to UNITY of belief and teachings.  Look up that scripture and go back to the previous chapter and the verses before that quote and you will find that the subject is unity of teachings and purpose and not oneness in being.  The Jews accused Jesus saying that he was God so they could punish him by death.  He never said he was.
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Yes, lots of people do. I was brought up to believe that Jesus was the son of God and that God himself was a different person, not a trinity. I'm not religious now, but when you've had the same thing told to you since you were a small child it's difficult to unbelieve.
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I've had this discussion many times with my religous friends and family. I see no reason that he is above us. Some christians believe he is the only true son of god. Others say he is god made man... The christian's book says we are all children of god. Jesus was a great man in the Bible, he gave his life for what he believed in. Not to take away from him, because he came with a noble cause, however, even HE wouldn't want you to believe he was greater than you. The christians know this. Some are just fanatics and will stretch and misinterperate things. They are human too.
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Jesus was a 100% God and a100% man. He is part of the Trinity. IT is not something that can easily be explained, even if God were to reveal this answer to us now and explain this, our human minds would not be able to comprehend what he said. God is much bigger and infinitely more intelligent than we are. We cannot confine him in just a book, a church, or even up in heaven somewhere, because God is everywhere, he knows everything, and is King of kings and Lord of lords. He gave us his word which is called The Holy Bible in order to show us what we must do on earth to be good servants and followers for him, and that is all we need for now. Instead of asking trivial questions, ask yourself what purpose God has for your life, and how he wants to work through you to spread his Gospel to others. I will pray for you. Have a nice day! =)
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Then they are not really Christians. Where do you think most of the people in churches come from? Those who did not know Jesus. And how did they meet him? By people how have met him. So if Christians keep themselves from non Christians, then who are they going show the love of God to? Jesus did not only hang in the temple, he also hung with people from all over. Some who worshiped false gods and some who worshiped no god. But after meeting him, they were never the same. So I say again, if a Christian is so closed minded as to not let their children play with another child who believes something different from them, they have little to no faith. God knows how to keep who is his, so there should be no fear or judgment of another.