What's that all about??\n\nIs this talking about Israel, the prominent one that still exixts today?
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Well, the anti-christ is supposed to become some sort of world leader so you could assume that he, at this point, would come to power in the USA.  Beyond that, I would assume that the peace would be in the middle east. In the area or areas around Israel as you know it today.
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I don't know. However, seeing that most Christians read and study the bible, including the Old Testament, even if they don't still follow it, it's still important to them, and so is it's main subject, the Jews. I believe that even if they don't consider the Israelis god's chosen people anymore, they still consider them important in some way.
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The problem is that people tend to hide political issues behind religion as a way of defending their actions. The whole Israel thing has little to do with religion and more to do with power and greed. Same with my country Ireland for a long time.
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Ahh- you are going to be facedf with the normal anti-Israel diatries.  The fact that there has never been an independent country called Palestine, that the Romans called the province Philistina to punish the Jews, the fact that even in ROman times not all the Jews were expelled, the fact that there has been a continuous Jewish presence in the area for the last 3500 years, the fact that until the mid 1800s the Palestinians were a largely migratory group, and even then ended up spread across most of the middle-east, including Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt.  All of these facts slip the anti-Israel lobby by in their virulent hatred.
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That's a pretty poor understanding of history.\n\nThe Jewish people are one of two Israel-ish people to emerge from the bronze age into Iron age Canaan. Current archaeology shows that the legendary kings, David and Solomon, were truly historical person who lived about three thousand years ago in the area. Some Bedouin-style tent sites show that the inhabitants of Judaea (at around this time) had stopped eating pork - the only bronze age people to do so. \n\nThe ancestors of the modern Jewish people were conquered by the Babylonians from 2700 to 2500 years ago - Israel first, then Judaea next. The Judaean fall - which is better attested to, appears to have been the less traumatic in fact, since the people survived the seventy year period of exile from their ancestral lands, and were restored to it in living memory of the elders.\n\nThe Jewish people would come to be occupied by the Romans 2,060 years ago, following a period of alliance between Rome and the Hasmoneans (the Maccabees.) Eventually, the Jews revolted, first 1,930 years ago, and then 1,870 years ago. The first revolt resulted in the destruction of Herod's temple. After the second revolution, the Romans razed Jerusalem and expelled the Jews from jerusalem.\n\nRome and its successors held Jerusalem for another 500 years, then were thrown out by Muslim conquerors. Conversion to Islam or Christianity played almost no role in the waning Jewish demographics of the land - Jews throughout history have been largely immune to forced conversion, as the Maccabean revolt and babylonian captivity showed. Constant war and persecution are what drove Jews from their own land.\n\nZionism is, like any other aboriginal land rights movement, the effort to restore land to its original and idigenous people. Despite the biblical motif, there is every reason to believe Jews are descended natively from people of Canaan, and are the only living people who can rightly claim to be ancestral to the land. It should be theirs, as the United Nations decreed it to be in 1948.\n\n"Palestine" is in fact Jordan. That is where self-identified Palestinians were meant to live in the 1948 agreements. As to what happens in the occupied lands of the 1967 war, that should be solved politically between all the stakeholders, and not resolved through strange claims about converting to Christianity or Islam.
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Have I seen what Israel has done with Palestinians?  Yep- shown unbelievable restraint considering the provocation!  Considering the suicide bombers, the daily rocket attacks, the continued attempts to infiltrate terrorists into Israel- the Palestinians are exceptionally lucky that Israel hasn't behaved the way other countries have in the past and walked in- flattening everything and evryone in its path to get rid of the threat to its people!\n\nOn top of that- it is now coming out that it may have been from an explosive device on the beach-rather than from an artillery shell- in otherwise a hidden terrorist weapon exploding accidently!  And that is more than feasible since during Israel's occupation of Gaza a lot of weaponry and explosives was smuggled into Gaza via the sea.\n\nThe only animals here arre the sick terrorists that use civilians areas from which to stage their attacks- and thus putting civilians at risk when Israel defends itself- the only sick animals are the terrorists that use civilians as shields- and then capitalise on the deaths they have caused- using them to glorify their sick, demented aims!
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there's no such thing as Israel..they came there not be friends with the Palestinians but creating havoc..has you ever been to palestinian side..they being treated like animals there..have you seen the walls?? israelies are worse then talibans..two faces satanism,deception on the world\n\ngod almighty,the palestinian will thrive
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omg! i cant believe how many people are so rude to Israel!\n(ahem, Desi_Godfather, freedomhammer, fu_smoker).\nwhen i think of israel, i think of a beautiful country of old and new. histroy dating back thousands of years, and yet the modern-ness of today. i think about how its the second country with the best technology, thanks to incredibly smart israelis. i think how you can do so many things there like seeing fish and underwater animals only found in israel. i think of hundreds of water sports. so many delicious foods and great traditions. you think terrorism, i think of the wonder.
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What surprises me is there are 11 islamic countries surrounding little itty bitty Israel and not one islamic nattion has ever defeated  Israel, If it werent for Condi back in this summer pushing for peace Israel would have turned lebannon into a heap of rubble. \nNevermind has-no-balls-a went into israel slew 8 soldiers and kidnapped 2 of them. whay aint no one belly-aching about them 2 kidnapped soldiers? \n\nAs far as im concerned they have held their own and deserve to be called a country not a state. \n\nIf any islamic or kumbaya loving liberal disagress then get the hell out, join hamas, osamas renegade group or has-no-balls-a and wrap your old lady's face up like an extra in a kung-fu movie. another words, put up or shut up.\n\nI hear ya there was an AP article that headlined "Israel has settled illegally on Palestine property" or something like that. I mean what a bunch of hog-wash.  But it was an american reporter writing for the AP. \n\nThe way I see it nuke jordan, syria and Iran and set them idiots 100 years back. Thats the real solution. As long as left wing media is in control people are going to beleive Israel is a land of criminals, next thing the media will  be saying the holocust never happened just like that idiot president of Iran said a while back. \n\nThe way i see it a rattlesnake is a rattlesnake you think you might tame it but sooner or later its gonna bite you.\n\nBush do the US and democrats a favor and nukem before you leave office. By the way Bush, GOOD JOB keep your Chin up,\n\nthank you kindly\nan ex middle east vet
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AND DO NOT FORGET THE REST OF THE WORLD!!\nIn Israel, Arab suicide bombers are thwarted every day!!!
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in a w ay yes but Israel has gone far more than south Africa. just last two days they have made  crimes and mascara   in Gaza against the poor Palestinian people. but one day Israel will be gone.
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Hey Jim, finally a good theological question from you, I knew you had it in you! Your starting to come over to the other side, I can just feel it. In all seriousness, there is no record the children of Israel coming out of Egypt washed their clothes, used deodorant, or brushed their teeth! After forty years, this would be a pretty ripe bunch, maybe that's why the walls of Jericho fell flat!,. what do you think?
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Oh my god\n\nWhen a question like this is asked on a forum like this and then I read some of the frankly stupid answers I really do fear for the world that my children are growing up in.\n\nHow can people who are so dense really afford computers?\n\nAguy has got it pretty much right. Palestine was not a country, it was a region within which over the last 2000 years and more has resided several peoples including the Jews and Palestiniant Arabs.\n\nThe Jews were driven out over the years as part of the global persecution which has happened to that race and the territory has been variously ruled by whichever superpower has been charging through at the time.\n\nThe Roman empire, the Crusaders, the Ottoman empire, and the British Empire were just some of the users of this land.\n\nAfter WW2 presecuted jews from all over Europe including the concentration camp survivors and millions from Russia headed back to re-claim a homeland in the area known as Palestine, which at the time was under British administration.\n\nThey even fought a brief terrorist campaign against the British Army. \n\nIn 1947 the international community agreed to recognise the state of Israel as a home for all the worlds displaced jews, and in fairness to them they set about turning a barren and desolate place into the vibrant place it is today.\n\nEver since then every neighbouring country, all of which were bigger and more powerful have tried to invade and eliminate Israel, and every time Israel has won.\n\nA different tactic was then employed in winding the regional arab population up under various terrorist organisations, some of which were funded by Libya and others by Iran.\n\nOver the years this has caused such a rift between the Israelis and the Palestinians with horrific suicide bomb attacks on Israeli civilians, that the way the Israeli army now treat the Palestinians is terrible and brutal.\n\nHence you now have a political, economic and military situation which has no easy or glib answers.
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No one ever talked about "Palestine" until the mid-1960's. Until then, all the Arabs ever talked about was annexing the land into Syria/Jordon/Egypt.\n\nBut I have good news. There is a Palestine. It's called Jordon.\n\nEDIT:lol @ Global's non answer. All he needs is a few quotes from the fake "Protocals of the Elders of Zion" and he'd be all set.
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IT is about time someone spoke up,and thanks for your courage.Under the protection of the united states Israel has behaved so badly in it's dealing with its enemies.When one objects to their inhumane behavior,they raise the antisemitic flag.This is supposed to quell opposition to their actions.
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What a great question....KUDOS!!!....This was truly not a small matter and it seems it has become very important to human history. Jesus accuratly foretold this destruction. It marked the end of an exclusive relationship described in the Bible between the God of the Israelites and them as a people. The original promise to Abraham was that through the seed of Isaac all the nations of the earth would be blessed. True to the prophecy, the relationship God had with ancient Israel produced the messiah, and  the royal heir to the throne of the Kingdom of God. Every one now benefits, (if they just take the opportunity).\n\nThe opportunity for a special relationship with God is now open to anyone who wants to excersize faith in the ransomer Jesus Christ. \n\nThat said....back to the destruction of Israel by the Roman Army in 70CE. So terrible was that destruction that Josephus (Jewish historian) reports that over 1.1 million people were killed! almost 100,000 were taken captive. Many of those taken captive were tortured and killed on the road.....and the rest were hauled all over the then-known world to be made slaves. VERY IMPORTANT POINT: all jewish records and geneologies were then totally destroyed. No "jew" today can prove he is related to Abraham, and yet the ancient record is intact that Jesus is the messiah.\n\nAfter WWII and the Nazi persecution of the Jews, the UN and the world leaders set up a secular nation of Israel. This is not the "Kingdom" of Israel and has nothing to do with any Bible restoration prophecy. People today think it is according to prophecy, but they are seriously mistaken. Any restoration prophecies that really pertain to literal Israel were fulfilled long ago when they were released from Babylonian captivity. Any newer prophecies are fulfilled in a new Israel which is not the literal nation of Israel, but rather a spiritual nation of people made up of every nation and tongue today. Thier Jerusalem is a heavenly one. Their capital city is a heavenly government ruled by the resurrected Christ Jesus.\n\nJesus Christ, near the end of his lfe, stood on the hill overlooking Jerusalem and the temple....looked down at it and condemned their relationship with God.\n\nNow....looking at the modern situation...it gets very interesting....you see there are a great many Christian Zionists who think that Israel is still favored by God and they feel the Israelites have a god-given right to palestine....these people have HUGE pull in the affairs of the governments which support Israel. Believe it or not this zionist movement will do anything to prevent the current peace efforts from proceeding because they do not want Israel to loose any of their "god-given" land. (The peace plans or "road map to peace" calls for them to loose some)\nThese people interestingly think they are going to be raptured off the world scene so they do not have to deal with any of the nasty results of their meddleing. The Christian zionists are sadly mistaken and bad things will come from their involvement.....(They already have).\n\nGoing on.....ponder this....just 3 days before the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the US.....the United States and Israel walked out of the UN conference on racism...they turned their backs on the world community who had passed a resolution that stated that zionism equals racism. This conference was planned for years......the arab community for years planned to present this resolution at this very conference......I wonder.....Could it be.....that this was in fact the TRIGGER for the attacks on the WTC in New York and the pentagon? Were these Al Khada terrorists poised and waiting for this walk out? I say this is a possibility, but what do I know? This presents the question.....If the US was not so motivated by Christian Zionists and their political influence, would there have been an attack? Would Muslims have the same view that they have of Americans today? Thanks for aski
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Your comment has merit. The heavy handed approach, seems to do little more than spawn new generations of anti-Israel kids. To call them Nazi-like will earn you score and reproach. I would simply say that their approach does not seem to be working.