I am willing to listen to both sides, negative or positive.  I am open-minded and I think that it should be left up to the couple to decide, not the rest of the world.  I mean come on.  What I do in my bedroom behind closed doors is my business, and what i do in public is of public interest.  PLAIN AND SIMPLE.  I have been told that it is against what the bible preaches to be gay.  If this is the case then i guess it is ok for us to have sexual relations with our mother.  Thats in the bible.  Whats the difference?
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Because Jr. doesn’t realize (despite having been told and having pledged twice) that his job is to protect, and defend the constitution of the United States.  He thinks his job is to do a variety of other things.  If you watch him speak for long enough, he will tell you what he thinks his job is, usually something along the lines of “to lead” or “to tell people what I am thinking” or “to unite Americans behind my common cause” or some other rubbish – never to protect and defend the constitution.\n\nSo to answer your question, Jr. thinks it is his job to decide if homosexuals can get married, because he truly honestly has no idea what his job really is.
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Are you kidding me?  God wants us to take delight in our spouses.  Sex isn't just for procreation.  Otherwise why would it feel so good?  He would have made it about as much fun as planting a garden.  My husband and I are both born-again Christians.  The only reason I don't moan loud is because I have kids in the house.  I too say read the Song of Solomon.  That book is quite direct about the pleasures of sex.  And it is in the Bible.
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Is it controversial? Notice the difference in arguments!\nGays do not want marriage; they want to have their behavior accepted.\nMarriage (monogamy) is by definition a union between one man and one woman.\nNo law prevents gays from living together, sharing their possessions being on each others wills and insurance policy even being head of household on their income tax\nThey want a legal requirement that their lifestyle be approved of by non homosexuals   political correctness diversity etc.
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You must put things into context. Someone quotes a bible verse, or a half a verse, and you get the quote completely out of context. Sometimes a single verse can suffice a question. If someone comes at you with something and you prove them wrong due to it's context, good for you. If you can't prove them wrong, then they are right. Right? So, take the statement of homosexuality and prove wether it's right or wrong using the very book you got your statement from. \nGod says that:\n-homosexuality is a sin, because it is sex outside of marriage. And he created marriage to be between a man and a woman. Therefore, a relationship involving homosexuality and sex will be viewed as a sin because they could never be married according to God's law.
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I'm not sure where it is "in God's word" that states homosexuality is a choice.  I laugh when people want to stand on the Bible as their grounds for spouting nonsense or uneducated "answers" which we are supposed to then accept as factual.  Some of the answers to your question thus far seem to fit into the "nonsense and uneducated" category.  I was born gay, and I've had to re-evaluate my own beliefs about God.  I had a sister to die suddenly, and I've had to re-visit and re-structure my relationship with God.  I lost a job because I'm gay (don't know how they found that out), and I then had to re-examine my trust in God.
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I'd agree with you. But I think you're generalizing the whole christianity...cause...not everyone DOES have God as their foundation for their marriage. I mean...God is love...and if God isnt' in the relationship...then neither is love. I think instead of throwing so much at christians...generalize more in terms of...humans. Yeah...we all sin...but it's still the person's choice to truly start a relationship with God in the center...and yes...looking at porno, masturbating...sodomizing...and w/e other fornicating act...IS sin...and should never be commited by anyone...not even married couples. A healthy relationship sure..has sex..cause God created it not only for having offspring....or recreation...but also being a pleasure. He's good that way. Why change it?\n\n\nOh...dude...I DO suggest you not try to correct people so much. It's not right to just tell people what to do. You gotta explain what God has to say...the Bible says everything we need to know. Try not to argue with people...that just causes more disruptions and arguements. I agree with a lot that you're saying...but preaching is not about rubbing people's beliefs in their face...it's about showing them respectfully the truth. Follow Jesus's example...
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Perhaps it's just an easy out for people who don't quite know what to do with homosexuality as a concept or as a practice.  There is a small part of the queer movement who believes that sexuality (important to note that not JUST homosexuality) is a choice which, I suppose, I could support more than just saying that homosexuality is choice.\n\nAnyway, other than that faction within the queer group, it is mainly heterosexual people who I hear that say that to be homosexual is a choice.  I would think it is simple for a person in a heterosexuals position to say that simply because the logic would be, "Well, I choose to be straight because I'm not attracted to (whatever)."  That is just an interesting statement (which I know I am generalizing, but I have certainly heard that one more than a few times) simply because it is defining sexuality based on what it's NOT.  \n\nAnother interesting thing is that it's always homosexuality that is the choice, but NEVER just plain old sexuality in whatever form it comes.  \n\nBuuuut beyond that ............ I have no clue why people think that sexuality is a choice.  You like what you like.  I like apples a lot, but I'm not such a fan of oranges (but I do like clementines).  I like women a lot, but I'm not such a fan of men (but I do like some).  That sums it up for me - it's not a matter of choice or really preference, but just what I like.
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People are giving you answers to two questions.\n\nSome people are telling you no one has to have sex.  That is true.  Celibacy has always been around -- some religions are very keen on it.  So, a person can choose not to have sex.  I could choose not to have sex with my partner, I could even choose to force myself to have sex with a female.  It makes my physically ill, but I could force the issue, at least I think I could.  Likewise, a heterosexual could force himself to have sex with another man. He could choose not to have sex with women.  In NEITHER CASE would the person change.  the homosexual would still be homosexual, the heterosexual would still be heterosexual.  What they would be doing would in both cases be unnatural for them.  But they could choose.\n\nThen there is the question of choosing how you feel.  No, there is no choice there except for bisexuals.  I have never found a single woman even vaguely attractive sexually.  I get along with women well enough, though the vast majority of my friennds are straight males.  I've had the same male lover for nearly 15 years, but I still notice other males, I just choose not to have sex with them (back to that choice thing again, in this case the same choice a straight man in a committed relationship makes).  \n\nNo one knows the reasons for this, it may be a cocktail of reasons, or  it may be genetic, or chemo-genetic -- both the eyeblink logitudnal study and the pheremonal response study imply that it is one or the other. What it is not is environmental.\n\nAs for our friend who thinks he turned gay because he wanted to see a penis at 6.  I think you feel guilty inside for being gay, and you concocted that as an excuse.  I saw penises and vaginas all my life -- my family was not big on modesty inside our home, and it was no big deal.  However, I began to realize what I liked by 8 and fully understood it was sexual by 11.  So you were interested in penises earlier, as I was - and then you realized what it meant at 10 -- not that much different from me, but without the self-acceptance and family support -- therefore, instead of realizing that it was self-recongition, you make it into a cause.  It isn't, you were not born straight.\n\nIf people have questions do not hesitate to email me.\n\nRegards,\n\nReynolds Jones\nSchenectady, NY\nhttp://www.rebuff.org\nbelieveinyou24@yahoo.com
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^\n^\n^\n^\n\nBut if the whole bible is the word of God,why would you disregard certain parts.\n\nI agree.people pick and chose what they will follow and disregard others.\nThe bible said it was an abomination unto God for two men to have sex,but what about tatoos being prohibited,certain foods not to eat because the bible claimed it was unclean.Back then it probably was unclean to eat certain animals because they didn't have reservers that we have today,but that doesn't apply to now.The bible also said not to shave or trin your hair,it prohibited piecings,it said that it is degrading for a man to grow his hair.\n\nChristians disregard all of those laws,but speaks against homosexuality.If you christians believe that the bible is the word of God,why do you pick and chose.\n\nDid you all know that in the bible,David and Jonathan were lovers.If you don't believe me look it up for your self.Search on the internet to make it easier.\n\nNo matter how we prove that the bible is man's word not God's the more scriptures you all quote.\n\nGod condons slavery\nsexism\nwar\n\nAccording to the bible he does.A loving God condons slavery?\n\nI surely hope one day you all come to your senses.
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Sure!  I probably wouldn't feel nearly as cautious about it if more of these relationships were 2 men/1 woman, though, instead of 2 women/1 man.  There's something frighteningly archaic and patriarchal in the latter case, but I do believe that consenting adults should be able to lead the lifestyle they choose.  Morality is subjective, and "marriage" is only "sacred" if you're a christian.  For the rest of us, it's a legality.  There are still plenty of us who are NOT christian, and who don't care to revert to the 19th century and live under the oppression of that incredibly limited perspective.
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Where does it say in the Bible that sex is only for procreation? It says sex outside of marriage(between a man and a woman) is wrong. And I don't think that bd/sm..D/s is wrong or they are devil worshipers. Again as long as it is with your wife or husband. I am truly sorry that you have dealt with Christians like you described. Please know that A) not all Christians are like that and B) the Christian faith does not teach to be Judgmental.  I know that there are a lot and I mean a lot of Christians that are judgmental. They are wrong! But, also know that we are not supposed to be judgmental but at the same time we are not supposed to be open to all things. We hate the sin not the person. For example: I do not hate people that are homosexual. I don't look down upon them like I am better than them or anything like that. I don't gay bash. Homosexuality is a sin just like any other sin. I have my sins to deal with that are no lesser than theirs.  However I am not going to accept homosexuality as a life style any more than I would accept murder, child abuse, alcoholism, or lying as a lifestyle.  They are all equally bad in the eyes of the Lord.  I do pray for those people as fervently as I pray for my own sins and ask God with help in my own sinful urges.\n\ntosmith
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People may not agree w/ the gay lifestyle, however if they got to really KNOW some gay people the ignorance surrounding their beliefs would be wiped out.  Gay people are just like straight people as far as I can tell.  Live and let live, why do people care about what others do in the bedroom?  Is it a sin?  Who are we to judge or care?  I can think of many other "sins" that humans commit that far surpass being gay if being gay is a sin.
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Sonstraal,\n\nEvery decision is best made based on the principles and direction of the Word of God; however, there are things that just aren’t covered in the Bible. Should you take a certain job or buy a house or move to a different city, etc.\n\nThere are guidelines for relationships in the Bible, and when we choose to violate them, there are consequences. I’m old enough to be your father, so let me tell you from a father’s perspective that, when it comes to relationships, parents often have a very keen sense about who is “right” for you. Parents have God given insight into our children’s character and the character of their potential mate, and we can see if the match is correct.\n\nEven if your parents are pleased with a certain match, you are the one who has to live with your choice. When you reach marriage age, you are old enough to make your own choices and hopefully your parents have prepared you by their example and their words to make wise choices.\n\nYou really should get your parents OK and God’s OK before proceeding with plans to marry. Many traditions are outdated or incorrect, but the tradition of a young man asking a father’s permission to marry his daughter was a good tradition, but regrettably it is out of vogue.\n\nIf you look around you at the people who “loved” each other and later divorced, you will take any godly advice that you can get before you marry.\n\nGod bless.
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You know I am a strong christian, but I don't shun science and common sense. Being gay is not a choice. It's just not, if you ask almost any gay guy or girl, they would say they would not choose to be gay, because who in their right mind would choose to be made fun of, shunned and hated? No one.
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Find an argument for gay marriage that I cannot use for bigamy, incest, etc.\n\nO.K. Me and my Mother are two consenting adults who want to marry each other. Why can't we? By your standards we should be able to also.\n**************************************************\nAll I'm stating is that once you change the definition of marriage, there is no stopping it. Gay people CAN get married, so long as it's with someone of the opposite sex. \n\nIf you're argument is that the definition of marriage is two consenting adults who love each other, then anyone can argue that they can marry their relative. Why can I not marry two women? If we are all in agreement and we all love each other, why can't we all get married?\n\nWhat is your argument for changing the definition of marriage? Every argument leads to other types of marriage such as incest bigamy etc.\n\n***********************************\nI also can't believe how Separation of Church and State has been so distorted. Separation of C&S was designed to keep the government out of the church not the Church out of the Gov't. There is nothing that says people cannot make laws that coniside with their religous views.\n\n************************************\n*******************\n"I certainly hope this person is kidding, because if they aren't, we should all be very afraid. There is a vast difference between two consenting adults engaged in a loving relationship and incest or bigamy. They are very different things and frankly there is no logic in this answer what so ever. "\n\nExplain why it is different? Is it because you think incest is wrong, unnatural, immoral? I think gay marriage is wrong, unnatural, and immoral. Why is your standard better than mine? If you want marriage to be b/w two consenting adults who are the same sex, what difference is it that someone wants to marry multiple wives or their relative? Again, I'll say it again. Any argument that can be used for gay marriage can be used for big./incest. Why homosexual and not incest? Once you open that door there is no shutting it.
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Alright... Where to start... For those of you out there that are against gay marriage... first of all, i must ask, what happened to the freedom that we hold so dear in our country? Didn't people come to this country to get away from small minded people that wanted to impose their beliefs onto other people? Although it does seem to be a trend in this country, what's different has to be wrong. It happened with racial segragation, it happened with women voting, it's happened time and time again, and now the new topic of bigotry and hatred is gay marriage. \n\nMany comedians have looked at a perfect oportunity with jokes such as, "don't they have the right to be as unhappy as straight married couples?"\n\nOk and this is specifically for you Rae... so you come from a "religious" background. So what does that mean? you were brought up in a closed minded church with people telling you what to think and what to believe? what is your reason for being against gay marriage? first of all, the adam and eve adam and steve phrase is way overdone and frankly just pisses me off because it's a prime example of the narrow-mindedness of christians.\n\nI was brought up in a church, so i suppose i have a christian background. But did you completely forget the new testament. Jesus gave a revalation to Paul that said all things are lawful but not all expediant. So this is my point. Even from a christian standpoint, you are allowed to do whatever it is that you want, but you have to pay the consequences.\n\nThat's the final verdict that the bible has to offer. Also from a christian standpoint, no sin is worse than any others right? so even if homosexuality is a sin, then why does it have to be such a point of contention for christians. It's no different than the evengelical preacher that gets a "hummer" from a transvestite, it's no different than a preacher that stand in front of a church and preaches the gospel and looks at porn(not that i'm saying porn is evil or anything), it's no different than a "goody-goody christian" that follows all the rules... but tells a little white lie here and there. according to the Bible a sin is a sin is a sin right? so why harp on this one? I'm not saying it's wrong, i'm saying why do the christians have to harp on the one "sin" they think is so bad...\n\nIt's all just hypocrisy. preach one thing, but live another.\n\nand as Littlefireyballofhate said, why is it that those with the most closed minds, have to have the biggest mouths? Just because it's something different, "OH" it has to be wrong?\n\npeople with such a narrow viewpoint of the world simply disgust me... The whole point, the foundation of America was for a land where there could be freedom of relgion, or from religion if that was your choice, freedom of expression, and freedom to do and say the things that you choose to be right. So what right does anyone have to shove their opinion down someone elses throat? you don't like it, get over it, and shut the hell up!\n\nThe bottom line is, whether or not your personal belief is that homosexuality is wrong or bad, even if this country proves to have more closeminded people than we expected, you will never be able to get rid of homosexuality, nor should it be "gotten rid of". If that's what makes someone happy, then for god's sake, let them be happy. Rae, you are happy in your life as a "straight" christian correct? so what, your beliefs say that what they are doing is wrong, let me remind again, freedom... that's what it all comes down to.\n\nClosed minded people just want to take away their freedom to express their love, and frankly if they do, what's next? you can't say or do the things you want? when does it stop. This country's foundation is freedom so why would you want to rob some of its citizens of the right to freedom which is held so de
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A LITTLE HARSH, BUT TRUE.\n\nAMEN BROTHER!\n\nALL THE PEOPLE THAT GAVE HATEFUL ANSWERS ABOUT JUDGING ETC.\n\nTHIS PERSON IS NOT JUDGING, ONLY INTERPRETING WHAT THEY READ IN THE BIBLE.\n\nSHOW ME WHERE IN THE BIBLE IT SAID IT WAS OK FOR A MAN TO STICK IS WEE WEE IN ANOTHER MANS POO POO AND A WOMAN TO LICK ANOTHER WOMEN'S WEE WEE?\n\nIT STRICTLY FORBIDS IT AND SINCE THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD, AND OF THE LORD, THEN HOW IS THIS PERSON GUILTY OF JUDGING?\n\nGROW UP YOU PEOPLE, SEE THE LIGHT AND REPENT.\n\nYOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING IT A SIN, AND YOU KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES FOR IT.  YOUR OWN GUILT MAKES YOU LASH OUT AT GOOD PEOPLE, PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO HELP YOU AND SHOW YOU THE ROAD TO EVERLASTING LIFE ANS SALVATION.\n\nDON'T TURN AWAY FOR THE LORD, YOU ARE HIS CHILD AND HE WILL PROTECT YOU.  CONFESS YOUR SINS AND YOU WILL BE FORGIVEN.\n\nGO IN PEACE, LOVE AND KINDNESS FOR EACH OTHER, GAY, STRAIGHT, BI, ETC.....\n\nWE ALL HAVE SIN, BUT SOME TRY TO LIVE RIGHT, AND GAY IS NOT LIVING RIGHT.