People are saying that being here illegally is a crime.  Then again doesn't the pledge of alligence state that liberty and justice for all. well i have no idea what is happening. is it true that the border patrol is going to start taking people back. cuz i have a friend and well i just can't let that happen. so if you know anything about whats going on please tell me or e-mail me mendegirl@sbcglobal.net  i really don't know if to believe the news or not. they're all saying diffrent things!
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yes being here illegally is a crime. like u have a point on "just and liberty for all" but you dont always have to come here illegally. its not like people are going around searching to take someone back to mexico but if the police or watever find out they may send you back or just fine you BIG TIME
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Both ILLEGAL immigration and FOREIGN INVASION!!  These people were marching in our streets demanding that we give them the same rights as everyone who came here through the LEGAL channels.  Don't you guys see something wrong with this picture??  There is a war going on here at home and people need to wake up to the truth before it gets out of hand.  Yes it is a WAR pro-ILLEGAL immigration supporters have already stated as much.  FOREIGN INVASION?  ABSOLUTELY!!  They have already proven a willingness to disregard our laws and are marching in the streets waving MEXICAN flags.  You can't tell me that's not an invasion of America.  Wake up and smell the roses people.  We can't nor do we have the responsibility to take in and support everyone who wants to immigrate here which is why we have immigration laws already on the books.  I'm sorry that their countries are so hard up but that IS NOT our fault.  Their countries were based on immigration too (Spanish Conquistadors, duh) and they've had A LOT of the SAME opportunities that our forefathers had.  It IS NOT our fault that they didn't use them!  Oh, and I don't have a swastika as I don't see this as a racial issue but a LEGAL issue.  If those of you saying that we're all racist for not wanting CRIMINALS here then you need to get a dictionary and look the meaning of racism up.  I'm not discriminating based on anything other than that they are here ILLEGALLY, REGARDLESS of their reasons and therefore according to the laws already on the books and in effect are supposed to be deported!!  EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY has its own immigration laws.  Why is America made into the bad guys for wanting theirs enforced, when the other countries are enforcing theirs???
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Veronica,\nWhat is your opinion on prosecuting criminals??\nIllegal aliens are considered criminals, as much as you might not like it, since they broke the US entry laws.
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It really sucks, doesn't it!?!   It infuriates me that these people are able to sneak into our country in the first place. I have seen the videos showing the coyote layup sites (where they meet up with their smugglers).  What a huge mess.  It is a real shame!\n\nI have joined the Minuteman project (National as well as my state chapter). They are at least trying to make a dent in it.  Check out the videos and other information at their website.\n\nI love the new motto "National Citizen Neighborhood Crime Watch - Securing America's Border"
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was this sort of on, sort of not on, the news tonight?  All I saw was them talking about an "incident" and not saying what it was.  \n\nWhat you describe is a horrific crime and brings shame on those men's families, combrades, country, and flag.   But the answer to the question is that everyone is capable of their very own acts of evil.  \n\nThe question here may be partly one of respect.   If you think you're part of the best nation on earth, what is everyone else?   If you can dehumanise the "others", regarding them as less than you, you can justify anything. That is not a uniquely American problem - aggressor nations very often commit horrible violations, with attitudes like that never far away from the action.\n\nBut it's also about self-respect.   If that were you doing that, could you look yourself in the eye afterwards?   Of course not.   So how can they?   People who have pride in their good qualities are less likely to descend to such horrible depths.\n\nNot much of an answer, more of just a train of thought.   Not much shocks me these days, but that does.   If I believed in hell, I reckon I would believe in it for that.
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If they're here illegally, how do we know how long they've been here? Send them all South. Illegal = criminal! Adios!!
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Personally, I think that the border patrol should just let up - I mean - after all - that border belonged to politicians before the border patrol even came along and STOLE it from them.\n\nPLEASE DAR! Politicians are JUST HUMANS....\n\n(okay, even I can't keep a straight face with that last comment, do you think I'll get struck by lightning for even suggesting politicians are human?)\nI thought it was a funny story too.
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Mendi if you open your yahoo browser and put in 'immigration' and 'border security' it will come up.  I saw it on the main stream press.  They are trying to get help from their government.  It was such a problem the US started spending more to drop people further into the interior, to make it easier.\n\nhere: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060617/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/mexico_no_way_home_3
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I started poking around the site and found some of the other things about NAFTA, FTAA and SPP.  It really is scary that so many people do not understand what is happening to our country.  A lot of people will call you a bigot or a hate monger if you say something about illegals.  I really have more of a problem with the government lying and saying they are doing something about the illegal immigration.  The fact is, they let it happen because it is part of the broader plan to make Canada/United States/Mexico one economic entity.  This will at some point lead to one country.  And they sit there and say you are unpatriotic if you don't support the war in Iraq!  In the meantime they are stabbing the American public in the back and selling them down the river.  I must reiterate, I don't hate the illegals.  I hate those that have let our borders turn into a "free trade zone".
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As far as the immigration issue, I have no problem with anyone wanting to immigrate, but why all of the sneaking over? Does it just take so long to go through all of the red tape or something? Just curious. I didn't see any of the previous postings, but you are completely correct! Unless you are of American-Indian descent, TECHNICALLY none of the rest of our bloodlines originated in what is now the United States! It frustrates and saddens me to see that people are still so ignorant. Even more so when I see them passing these beliefs and attitudes down to their young children! I think there is no greater crime than that! Where did the innocence of youth go? Way to go though. Great topic!
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Bravo Patriot... I have noticed this (particularly "defender of the hated") here and in almost all forums.\n\nDid you see the CNN town meeting on "Broken Borders"... the woman defending illegals wouldn't answer a question... she merely ran on in her prepared manifesto covering the standard points: the border crossed us, it's our land, your economy can't survive without our work... blah blah blah.\n\nI'm a Californian, and honestly have had no KNOWN contact with ILLEGAL immigrants of OTHER than Hispanic origin.  My Indian, Fijian, and Russian co-workers all have work-visa's (I'm their supervisor and have to know).  My comments are based on first-hand observation.\n\nYet while in the Navy I lived right on the border in San Ysidro... watched lllegal crossings night and day.  I couldn't report them... HONEST !!  My reports were REQUIRED to be ignored by INS /Border Patrol because my reporting would violate the illegals' rights due to "posse comitatus".\n\nI pay my high California taxes, and while in San Ysidro, my daughter had to go to a school 5 miles away because the school NEXT DOOR was reserved for ESL students !!  An investigation in 1992 found that 85% of those students had PO boxes or false addresses... and further investigation found that those students crossed the border back to mexico each day. On falsely obtained student ID !!\n\n230 students... and at the time, the State said it cost $30,000 per student per year... So that's 6.9 MILLION stolen from the tax-payers from ONE school.
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Good to know ICE is doing their job..keep up the good work...a good day in the USA...1000 less illegal aliens.\n\nGod Bless The USA...illegals...go home!
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Be careful friend. Talk like that in here can get you called a racist. Illegal immigration has ruined the town I've lived in most of my life. We can't even take care of our own in this country, but we are supposed to give everything we have to the illegals? We have no health care for so many here, too many are homeless and/or unemployed. All I can really say is would you feed your last bit of food to a stranger and let your kids go hungry?
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Immigrants are great, but these are ILLEGAL ALIENS.  It looks to me like a great opportunity for INS to find all these lawbreakers in one place and initiate arrests.  With our being told which companies HAD to shut down completely or partially, that the Attorney General, Homeland Security, or whomever is responsible for fining companies who do hire illegal aliens, really just have a list now that they can follow. \n\nThe protest offended, but didn't really affect me, or the town in which I live.  The following things bothered me:\na.  these protests were for ILLEGAL ALIENS, NOT regular immigrants.  Their PR machine was great in blurring the lines here.\n\nb.  The Mexican flags were still very prominent.\n\nc.  I was soooo tired of seeing all the posters written in Spanish!!!!!!  And the signs that were translated to English were often very critical of this counry that they claim to love so much.\n\nd.  One of the organizers, last name Rodriguez I think, was on some TV shows the day before.  He made very negative comments about the U.S. in general.  It seemed he was leading up to the one comment that made me wonder about the REAL agenda.....he said, paraphrasing, that the southern part of the U.S. was STOLEN from Mexico, and that the people just wanted to reclaim what was rightfully theirs.  Okay, we did fight and confiscate land way back in our early history......but wasn't just about every country formed by gaining land from somebody??  \n\ne.  The whole thing would have been so much less significant, had our media simply refused to give these demonstrations wall to wall media coverage!!\n\nf.  Do these illegal aliens have the constitutional right to assemble like this?  This is just a question I wondered about.......they are not citizens.\n\ng.  IF these folks are really protesting for rights, better conditions, etc., well, I can't help but be curious as to why they don't just demonstrate in their own countries where conditions must be worse.  Couldn't they use this energy to focus on problems at home?\n\nh.  I can't help but wonder WHEN the LEGAL CITIZENS of the U.S. will step up to the plate, care enough to organize as efficiently as these folks, and take our voices and opinions to the streets, all the way to Washington D.C.\n\nWhew, got some of that off my chest!  I understand the plight of these illegal aliens, and this IS a country of immigrants, but it's also a county of laws.  What do you think would happen to us if thousands of U.S. citizens decided to sneak into Mexico, Colombia, Venzuela, Russia, China, etc., and march on their capitols & make demands for rights while waving American flags and speaking mainly English?  How about trying that in Cuba or Iran?  \n\nWelcome to all immigrants, just do it LEGALLY!  We do have a process in place for that.  Many of us feel that we and our country are being greatly disrespected by the ILLEGAL ALIENS. (I am ever so tired of the term "undocumented workers"..............does that mean that we citizens can drive around freely with no drivers' licenses, and simply be "undocumented drivers"?  Political correctness can get way out of hand.\n\nI just about forgot one other thing that burns me, and that's the so-called Spanish version of our National Anthem!  This is not a translation, the lyrics are totally different.  This is the United States.  We speak English.  A common language is necessary for assimilation.  And our National Anthem should be sung in English!  What's next, translating our Constitution, the Pledge of Allegience, etc??
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I hope it wakes him up to see that any "comprehensive" plan is impossible to enforce because they are constantly going to try and find some way to show they are exempt....even if it means using their children as pawns.  Even abiding by the rules that the Senate wanted to pass, with the "path to citizenship", she would not have been allowed to stay here.  She was already deported,  had here stay extended.  She's failed at every legal move since.  Even with chances and reprieves she LOST....but still won't abide by the law.  She's 1 and you can imagine all the chaos when they all try their shot at it.  As far as I'm concerned she proved there is no way but strict enforcement to get these people out of here.  They just don't think they have the responsibility to abide by ANY law.  "For the sake of the children" burned out a long time ago.  To me this is the same as some thug holding his child as a shield from bullets.  She looking out for HER best interest.  They make it sound like their children will be taken away from them.  Some even go so far to say the kid couldn't make it in Mexico because they don't know Spanish and it would be stressful to assimilate.  They haven't assimilated here and don't seem to know English either.  All their "excuses" don't work.  They made the choices and any problems for their kids are THEIR fault not ours.  The kids are free to go with them.  If not, then sign them over to a legal guardian. Otherwise they can come back when they are of legal age and hopefully learn from their parents mistakes.  They need to learn that having children doesn't make them exempt from having to abide by the law.
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I recently read this article in the Chicago Sun Times.  It is both enlightening and scary.  I am living overseas temporarily, but I often wonder what I'll return to when I do come home.  The US is not what it used to be.  Here's the article:\n\nNo easy answers on immigration conundrum \nApril 9, 2006 \nBY MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST  \n \nHere's my immigration "compromise": We need to regularize the situation of the 298 million non-undocumented residents of the United States. Right now, we get a lousy deal compared with the 15 million fine upstanding members of the Undocumented American community. I think the 298 million of us in the overdocumented segment of the population should get the chance to be undocumented. You know when President Bush talks about all those undocumented people "living in the shadows"? Doesn't that sound kinda nice? Living in the shadows, no government agencies harassing you for taxes and numbers and paperwork. \nGo ahead, try it. In Michelle Malkin's book Invasion, she recounts the tale of two fellows who in August 2001 pulled into a 7-Eleven parking lot in Falls Church, Va., in search of fake ID from the illegal-alien assistance network that hangs around there. Luis Martinez-Flores, who'd been living here illegally since 1994, took them along to the local DMV, supplied them with a fake address and falsely certified they lived there. The very next day, the two guys returned with two pals of their own, and used their own brand-new state ID on which the ink was not yet dry to obtain in turn brand-new state ID for their buddies. A couple of weeks later, all four of them used their Virginia ID to board American Airlines Flight 77 at Dulles Airport and plowed it into the Pentagon. \nThink about that. From undocumented illegal alien in the 7-Eleven parking lot to lawful resident of the State of Virginia in just a couple of hours. Wow. Say what you like about Luis Martinez-Flores, but he runs one efficient operation. \nBy comparison, say you've got two kids under 5, and you'd like to bring over a nice English nanny to look after them. Name of Mary Poppins. Good references, impeccable character. If you apply now, there's a sporting chance the process may be completed before your children's children are in college. \nGiven that the new immigration "compromise" bill retrospectively approves all the millions of people who've been through the super-efficient Luis Martinez-Flores immigration system but without doing anything to improve the sclerotic U.S. government immigration system, maybe it would be better just to subcontract the entire operation to Senor Martinez-Flores and his colleagues. It would certainly be cheaper. The extensive Undocumented American support network manages to run it out of the back of the car from a parking lot without a lot of air-conditioned offices full of lifetime employees on government pensions, and given that the net result is exactly the same people who'd be living here anyway, why not go with the lowball bid? Legal immigrants to the United States can only envy the swift efficient service Messrs. Hani Hanjour and Khalid Almihdhar received outside that 7-Eleven. \nAll developed countries have immigration issues, but few conduct the entire debate as disingenuously as America does: The president himself has contributed a whole barrelful of weaselly platitudes, beginning with his line that "family values don't stop at the Rio Grande." True. They don't stop at the 49th parallel either. Or the Atlantic shore. Or the Pacific. So where do family values stop? At the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services. If you're an American and you marry a Canadian or Belgian or Fijian, the U.S. government can take years to process what's supposed to be a non-discretionary immigration application, in the course of which your spouse will be dependent on various transitional-status forms like
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First and foremost.... these people DO NOT WANT TO BECOME CITIZENS.  Therefore, they will not join up to pay taxes, etc.  They will just continue to send $$$ home to Mexico. Bush and company assume they want to be citizens, but I have not heard any of the illegals say that.  Just that they are "taking over".  Send them all  back.  No special treatment or deals.