Liz made it clear to me that the education system is seriously lacking.  I wasn't aware of this fact until her recent IM telling me about my home, my family and what I should do to her friend Chris.  \n\nIf illegal immigration is any fault of the current lack of Good education would that make any of you change your stance at all?
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For me, it's not clear how education affects illegal immigration. You could argue that an abundance of poorly educated citizens, scavenging for low pay jobs, might actually deter illegal immigration.\n \nWhat is clear, is that well educated people are less threatened by illegal immigration because their job's profile is not that of the kind that an illegal might take. Further on, since they are likely to hire some of these illegals, they might benefit from the cheap labor.
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I think it is great. I think 5 years is more than enough time for illegals to get their things in order and gain citizenship or leave. It's not because I think we are better than them. It's because I live in Northwest-Arkansas. And for those of you who don't know. There is a sign on the US side of the Mexican border that says "Come to Northwest-Arkansas for work" Well, that's great...because half of the people I know...can't get jobs, because illegals are taking them. How is that fair? This is the first right thing that Bush has done. Why protest it? I DO believe that illegal immigrants should have the right to the American Dream, if they gain citizenship. But when you think about it, The money that is taken out of your weekly paycheck, that is supposed to go to the Social Security Fund, (to help you and your family out later on in life) is paying for their healthcare and their housing in some cases. So, tell me, how is it fair that the people who are citizens, get to pay for the illegal immigrants' needs and get nothing in return. Do you think  there will be any money left, when it is your turn to need the Social Security money?
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Am I supposed to cry?  Millions of ILLEGAL ALIENS lined up in the street saying America sucks waving the Mexican flag (I assume she is Mexican, but it doesn't matter what country), and we're supposed to feel sympathy for another law breaker?\n\nWhy would going home lead to death or endangering her life?  Why should we care?  Millions of people endanger their lives, break our laws and cross our border daily.  Fix the country she came from, or shut your pieholes slamming America, and maybe, just maybe we will let the issue die.\nIt wasn't the Americans who hit the streets telling us we were wrong now was it?\n\nOh, and not be be meanspirited, cancer in any country could lead to death, no?\nI hope she lives.
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I hope it wakes him up to see that any "comprehensive" plan is impossible to enforce because they are constantly going to try and find some way to show they are exempt....even if it means using their children as pawns.  Even abiding by the rules that the Senate wanted to pass, with the "path to citizenship", she would not have been allowed to stay here.  She was already deported,  had here stay extended.  She's failed at every legal move since.  Even with chances and reprieves she LOST....but still won't abide by the law.  She's 1 and you can imagine all the chaos when they all try their shot at it.  As far as I'm concerned she proved there is no way but strict enforcement to get these people out of here.  They just don't think they have the responsibility to abide by ANY law.  "For the sake of the children" burned out a long time ago.  To me this is the same as some thug holding his child as a shield from bullets.  She looking out for HER best interest.  They make it sound like their children will be taken away from them.  Some even go so far to say the kid couldn't make it in Mexico because they don't know Spanish and it would be stressful to assimilate.  They haven't assimilated here and don't seem to know English either.  All their "excuses" don't work.  They made the choices and any problems for their kids are THEIR fault not ours.  The kids are free to go with them.  If not, then sign them over to a legal guardian. Otherwise they can come back when they are of legal age and hopefully learn from their parents mistakes.  They need to learn that having children doesn't make them exempt from having to abide by the law.
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Wow! That IS interesting. Maybe when I can afford to have a child.(Rather than moving illegally to another country and expecting said country to foot the bill for my pre-natal and maternity care) I will consider moving there. Then when I send my child to school, the school may actually be able to afford to give my child an education. Here in L.A. the schools are PACKED with illegals and the children of illegals. The school down the street has only 1% caucasian children. 88% latino.The school is sub-par because it can't concentrate on giving an education to the legal citizens because they have to spread everything so thin.\n\nI was more sympathetic to the illegals until they decided that as non-citizens they deserve more rights than American Citizens. And the TOTAL lack of appreciation for what America has done FOR them.
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just posted this in another question but it works here too.\n\n girl asked her dad if she was a dem or rep. He says ok well you work really hard in school and you get good grades right. Yes. Well You know how Stacy doesnt work very hard and sometimes she is real close to passing but fails by a little. Yes. Well since you have a 4.0 and she has a 1.9 why dont you give her a little of your gpa so she can have a 2.0 and you will have 3.9 you still pass and she passes too everyone is happy. She says thats not fair I worked for that grade. Then you are a Republican\n\nwell this is what it is supposed to be but today there is no real conservatives in govt the entire country fell left.
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The dumb thing about this is that ALL education is "outcome based".  Even the classic styles suggest that the final OUTCOME will be a productive member of society.\n\nWhile there are some HUGE problems w/ public education, this particular author mixes up so many theories in her conspiracy quest, that she does a disservice to those who want to improve education.\n\nShe bashes on "total quality management" with no understanding of the concept.\n\nShe bashes on "outcome based learning" with no appreciation that not all students are suited to studying latin...and btw they are valuable members of society as well.\n\nI'd love to see education improvement, but it ain't coming from this lackwit.
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horn balls ... \n\nRelax...the only part of her questions that are authored by her is the leading intro setting up the question - i.e. "did you hear."  When the ALL CAPS start, she's editorializing her own research.  There's a certain segment of country folk that cannot do it for themselves.  For the kids, it's a whizzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.\n\nThe correct English composition is COPIED.  Lookout after the word, "personally."  That's when  the ??????!!!!!!! start.  Try to visualize it, when she's pissed off and placing emphasis on her words.  It's entertaining.  Don't even think about disagreeing, ok;  that's not allowed.  You will be called a non-citizen, illegal,  pro-amnesty,  Mexican or all of the above.  \n\nOOh, K....get used it; some things never change.
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Very well done, I hope she sees it!\n\nOk I'm guessing some of you didnt see the rant this is based on, I'm sure there is no offense meant by this. See this question....\n\nhttp://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AnIVmoS8.l3PHGSr1aJBOvnzy6IX?qid=20061122082407AA9ZV6V
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Come on do you really think it's Bush's doing? I swear the Democrates are hypocrite especially Hilary Clinton. Sean Hannity had a tape of her actually 2 one from months earlier slamming the illegal aliens and a recent one talking about how great they are. My whole problem with all of this is that they are here illegally, why aren't we out arresting them and sticking them on buses and taking them back across the boarder. They are out of control and if we allow them to stay we are just setting ourselves up for future problems. Riots because Gee if we throw a fit and protest then we get our way. What about all the ones over on the other side who are trying to follow our laws and filling out the paper work, is it fair to them. What are we teaching these people? I'll tell you, we are teaching them that it's OK to break our laws, it's OK to protest, well I don't agree, they need to be dealt with and taught that there is no tolerance to those who would break our laws and not follow our rules. I am all for allowing people into our great country, I love my country and I understand why they want to come here but it needs to be done the right way. If it isn't then it will set a president that we won't like and will not be able to live with in the long run. I want people who will follow our laws and respect them. So me that you will do the right thing then I'm all for you coming here.
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Jackie, it's a shame all this is reaching down to kids in school, all these adult concerns, but I applaud you for taking a stand.  Stand up for your convictions, but do it in a way that doesn't personally attack someone.  For example, "I don't agree with you that we get all the good jobs.  There are lots of LEGAL Americans with hard, dirty jobs. Besides, if people come into the country legally, they don't have to worry about taking low paying jobs.  They can apply, LEGALLY for any job for which they are qualified."\n\nAs far as her speaking Spanish is concerned, I believe it's on her to learn the language of our country.  Her family moved here, legally or illegally, so that indicates to me they want to be Americans.  Well, in America, we speak English.
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This is long (I'm sorry).  But I just received it in an e-mail and I think it speaks pretty eloquently about "progressive" income redistribution.  Here goes:\n\nFather-Daughter Talk \n\nA young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and was very much in favor of the redistribution of wealth. \n\nShe was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his. \n\nOne day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the addition of more government welfare programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school. \n\nTaken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, And let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying. \n\nHer father listened and then asked, "How is your friend Audrey doing?" \n\nShe replied, "Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA.  She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties, and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she‘s too hung over." \n\nHer wise father asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA." \n\nThe daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, "That wouldn't be fair! I have worked really hard for my grades!  I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!" \n\nThe father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, "Welcome to the Republican party."
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What do you do when you want something from someone you can't beat up?  You kiss their as_s, right?\n\nWhat do you do when you want something from someone you can beat up?  You beat them up.  \n\nSo, they think they can intimidate us into giving them what they want.  Well, they're SORELY mistaken.  I'm fairly liberal, and I might have been cool about this, but they made a serious mistake when they started DEMANDING these things.\n\nAnd the lack of assimilation is ridiculous.  They're chanting things in Spanish that the citizens, those who vote for the freaking representatives and senators, can't understand.  This is extremely disrespectful.  They've won themselves over, but they've turned the rest of us away.
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See the problem here is you should be asking why illegal immigrants are allowed to be here? Yes a lot of our ancestors were immagrants, but this is now... Why are there illegal immagrant children in US schools expecially if they can't speek english well, how much can they learn like that? But ultimantly you can blame the politicians they always promise better education until they're elected then it gets pushed to the side.
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viper_najem-I AGREE The Asker IS An EGOTISTIC Loser\n\nbanana_bean01 Asked 2 Of The BEST Questions Ive EVER Seen Posted In ANY Of These Forums\n\nteresa-I WISH More People Would Understand The Underlying Economics As You See Them Because The Issue IS NATIONAL ECONOMICS NOT RACE\n\nJust Cause Life In MEX. And Some Other Countries "SUCKS"\nDont Give Someone A RIGHT To Be In This Nation\n\nAnd I Know That Pres.Fox Is CORRUPT But THAT\nDont Give Someone A RIGHT To Be In This Nation\n\nAnd Just Cause You Dont Have A Criminal Record\nDont Give Someone A RIGHT To Be In This Nation\n\nThis Is A NATION With LAWS-THAT IS The REALITY\nThis NATION Of LAWS Has BORDERS\nIt Dont MATTER HOW It Got To Be That Way\nTHAT Is The Way It Is\nThe INDIANs, The BUFFALOs, The WARs, The ESKIMOEs,\nIT DONT MATTER-Thats The WAY It IS\n\nYou Have The RIGHT To Be Here If \n1:You Were BORN Here\n2:You Take The Basic Nessesary Steps To Apply For A VISA And Then CITIZENSHIP And Are APPROVED\nTHAT Is The LAW In THIS NATION\nIF EITHER 1 or 2 Of The ABOVE Are In Fact TRUE\nThen You Are A CITIZEN Of This Nation\nAnd You Have A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT To Be Here\n\nTHATS IT-THATS ALL-There Are NO More Arguements About The RIGHT To Be Here In This NATION Of LAWS\n\nILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS Have No Constitutional Rights\n\nYou CANNOT "STEAL" The RIGHT To Be Here As You CANNOT STEAL ANY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS\nIf You DO, You Are A FELON\nYouve BROKEN FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS\nIf You VIOLATE The FEDERAL LAWS Of A NATION, You Are A CRIMINAL\n\nIts THAT SIMPLE \nIf You Break Into A House To Steal Property, That Is An ILLEGAL ACTION, With A PENALTY If You Are Caught \nIf You SNEAK Across The BORDER Of A NATION To STEAL The RIGHT To Be There, That Is An ILLEGAL ACTION, With A PENALTY If You Are Caught\n\nILLEGAL ALIENS in America are here only because they are GUILTY of CRIMINAL VIOLATION of our FEDERAL LAWS, Jumping our borders and living in a shadowy underground economy. They are morally culpable for shoving aside those who adhere to the law and enter these United States in orderly and Legal Fashion. Since when do criminals and cheaters receive pride of place for the blessings of liberty, over those honestly, earnestly and faithfully seeking to become American citizens? \n\nPresident Bush has called for a reasonable and civil debate over the issues of border security and immigration reform. But the American people understand there can be no responsible immigration reform UNTIL OUR BORDERS ARE SECURE. “Guest worker” amnesty programs ARE NOT a part of border security. Amnesty is not the answer. To grant amnesty to these trespassers is to say "You crossed our borders ILLEGALLY, You BROKE OUR LAWS and now we are REWARDING you with U.S. Citizenship -- Congratulations!" \n\nThis is unacceptable. \n\n\nWe cannot allow illegals to remain in this country because it sends the very clear message to anyone from any country: \nGo ahead and enter the U.S. illegally. Nothing will be done to you. \nThe stupid Americans will pay to feed you, clothe you, educate your kids and pay for your medical care\nwhile they themselves are forced to go without because they can't afford health insurance because their tax dollars are paying for you! \nHa, Ha! Go ahead and enter the U.S. illegally If you're a terrorist, no problem, go ahead and build your cells, blow up buildings and schools.\nNothing will happen because American politicians are too cowardly to repel this invasion and deport the millions of \nillegals aready here while the illegals rub their lawlessness in our faces.\n\nAFRAID???-AFRAID???-NO< Im NOT AFRAD-IM PI$$ED\n\nIM MAD AS HELL-And IM NOT GONNA TAKE THIS $HIT \n\nYou Wish To Become AMERICANS With The RIGHTS Of AMERICANS .. \nYet Many Of You REFUSE To SPEAK My/Our LANGUAGE \nAnd REFUSE To Honor My/Our Flag \nWell I REFUSE To Let YOU Continue To Burden My Pocket \nAnd The Pockets Of My "PROUD TO BE AMERICAN" BROTHERS \nOf ANY DESCENT\n\nY
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Since you were kind enough to ask what I think, I will be kind enough to tell you straight up.\n\nWhen I read the writing from a person such as yourself it conjures up a variety of thoughts.  Please forgive my directness, but ignoramus is the first word that comes to mind. \n\nIf I had not acquired the ability to spell a four letter, monosyllabic word, which also happens to be part of the title for the second most powerful person on the planet, I would be raining lawsuits on the school district which had advanced me through its system. \n\nThen when I read that same person can not correctly spell the name of the 1st Lady who served this country for eight years, I am immediately prone to think that they, along with the people who were responsible with providing them a decent education, are without doubt some of the most imbecilic creatures who somehow manage to walk upright.  \n\nAllow me to qualify that last point.  At the risk of having to meet any of you to prove otherwise, I assume you all walk on two legs.\n\nMy friend, you should be the poster child in support of school vouchers yet are seemingly a huge supporter of liberal ideology.  You are the reason for prayers as they will do you infinitely more good than your "free" public education ever will.
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True, true, Hayley... Pancha DOES have voices in her head. What we need is a three pronged attack to this problem (let's get tactical!). First: The border needs to be sealed with a combination of high tech walls and fences, with multiple sensors and cameras. It has to be manned by both the Border Patrol and the National Guard due to the escorts from the Federales and Mexican army - they have the Border Patrol outgunned and are already firing on our Law Enforcement personnel. Second: We need get rid of the illegals. To try and catch 20 million at one time is not feasible. We conduct raids and deport the ones we find. We give our Law Enforcement around the country the tools they need to question suspected illegals and arrest them if necessary. As it stands now, most Police Departments in our major cities have directives that direct the Officers NOT to question a suspect (or person of interest) as to their resident status. We can't expect them to do their job if we make them work with their hands tied behind their backs. Third: We need to come down like a ton of bricks on the employers that continue to hire illegals. If we start handing out some big fines, and possibly prison, they will stop hiring these fleabags for hardly any money. If they stop hiring, then the well dries up, and they stop coming over, and the others go home to whatever rock it was that they climbed out from under. As an afterthought, the Federal Government should look into some of these elected officials in California speaking of "civil war" and taking over. I believe the English term for that is "Treason"!\nThen maybe after puking these mutts out, I can go to Home Depot and buy something that is printed entirely in English! Oh, what a wonderful world it would be!!