I used to like the "game" of politics... I consider myself a Conservative. I believe there is no greater use for the military than to fight for freedom (ours or theirs). I believe in the sanctity of human life and that children deserve the greatest protection. I believe in equality for each and every human. I believe in a streamlined government who lets me keep what I earn, and who doesn't waste what I give them.\nNone of this matters... Republican/Democrat/Independent/Whatever they seem to stand for nothing but $ and their re-election.\nNot looking for bashing or war debate. I believe we are all tired of our bloated and decidant government. They are supposed to SERVE us not walk on our backs. Executive,Legislative, Judicial and across party lines... stop with the BS!\nNO FLAMING PLEASE!!!!
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Although I disagree with mostly everything you used to believe in I wont as you requested bash you or argue about the war ;)\n\nbut no you are not the only one, I feel the same they are not supposed to stab their loyal supporters in the back and say and do whatever it takes to stay in power regardless of who they shit on and what party lines they cross.\n\nMeant to add never thought id agree with a tory! (sorry couldn't resist) ;)\n\nThere is a cigareete papers differnce between all the bastards these days
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I'm against it. And I'm not against it because I hate the military and don't support our troops. I feel like our leadership started this war for their own gain, and that is so dirty I kinda wish I believed in hell. Even if you think the media is "liberal" how can you ignore the memos between Bush and Blair about how Bush could instigate this war while at the same time, Bush was saying war was a last resort? How can you ignore the outing of a CIA operative who was a weapons of mass destruction specialist only to find out that Bush ok'd the leak? How can you ignore the fact that we stopped focusing on the person responsible for 9/11 only to go for someone who had shakey at best connections to it? I don't see Bush's daughters signing up to fight it. I don't see Congress urging thier children into the military. They play war games with other people's children, with other peoples spouses, brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, and that just sickens me.
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Do some time in the military and find out. I have...\n\nedit: So the correct question would be:\nHow many politicians does it take to defend America?\nTo which the correct answer would be:\nThe world may never know...\n\nThe military is indicative of American. I would assume there were as many liberals "defending America" as there are conservatives. \n\nThere are very few in the government, and especially our current administration, who have served or have children serving. Strangely enough, most of the former military are on the liberal side - 24% (13 of 55) of Republican Senators  have served, compared with 27% (12 of 44) of Democrats (including a Medal of Honor winner) and 100% of Independents.
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Sounds like a typical libterd statement. The Army and the republicans can't win with you no mater what. Stay the course, right thing to do, now and always!
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Well, let's see.\n\nA liberal wants to preserve the limited powers of the government, and conservatives want to have a strong central goverment that can protect the country against foreign aggression.\n\nNo wait, that's backwards ...\n\nLiberals want to stop Congress from deficit spending, and conservatives want to continue to fund military-related projects and spend far more than is in the Treasury.\n\nNo wait, that's backwards too ...\n\nLiberals want to protect a citizen's right to worship as he pleases without government interference, and conservatives want to set the Ten Commandments into Federal law.\n\nGee, now I'm really confused.  Seems liberals and conservatives are all mixed up these days ...\n\nI think you should go back to the sixties and seventies, when liberals were the party of affirmative action, school desegregation, and welfare, and conservatives were the party of fiscal responsibility and anti-Communism -- and the world made sense.\n\n(Sorry, I know I'm being a little sarcastic and you're probably just a kid who doesn't understand any of this stuff.  But government is a weird place these days)
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this is mostly an answer from another question but very relevent here:\n\nit's not so much people opposed to people as it is politics vs. politics. thruthfully, there is a way to end this bullshit entirely...abolish all political parties and set term limits. let a person who is willing to take no salary hold office in the goverment...and most of all, take religon out of the goverment.\n\nit's a game meant to make u ask why "the other side disagrees and defend your own political views" that have been "indoctrinated into you" from the very people that you elect. we don't have the choice in this country to put a real honest concerned person in the white house. what we do have is a "filtered canidate from both partys" that will keep the status quo humming. think about this: if we all agreed there would be no need for this "form of goverment" and certainly no reason for Profit Politicians that us americans have been deluded into perceiving as "leaders". neither side has produced a REAL LEADER in decades and i mean decades...\n\nwe need to do away with politicians for hire, lobbyist's, and professional politicians. then we MAY have a chance to communicate with one another as equals\n\nif there's a war, it's internal and we're in and it's with the Party Politics and Politicians. problem is we're just the foot soldiers gunning for the other side...everyone of us!\n\nIn realting this to the World and Peoples of the World, it still boils down to inbred fighting that sidetracks us from the real issues, some of those listed here, but many more.\n\nthe deal is we could solve the majority of the worlds problems if we would shed the "failure to deliver" forms of government that we let control us into scurmish with eact other while the leaders pick our pockets.\n\nnow trun around and shoot your neighbor if he is not the same as you... keep being part of the problem   [i kid all mankind]
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I'm not even sure that's being "conservative" anymore... I think it's just Batsh*t crazy...\n\ndovebar...  do you really think democrats in congress and the senate are "fascist liberals"... don't you think that's a bit extreme... besides the fact that it doesn't even make sense...
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Excuse me Bradship, I think the Mothership wants you back.  Maybe it's past your bedtime you window licking jerk!\n\nI think pansy flowers would be a better sign for your political party.\nNo, I take that back...a dog licking it's A$$.\n\n\nIt's kindergarden when you have more fun fucking with people.  I guess that didn't come to mind when you posed the question huh?  How long did it take you to get out of there anyway?  Or, are you still there?  Funny, you want to talk about politics and all.  Here you sit in front of your computer at 4:36 am, with NOTHING better to do than to put down Republicans?  That takes a lot of \nB-R-A-I-N power.  Bravo!  Gold star!
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I personally look at the issues that are important to me, and try to vote for the person who best represents my views. I consider myself a moderate with liberal leanings. \n\nI don't like extremism, and I don't like it when people get locked into a position and refuse to consider all sides of an issue (not a big Bush fan . . .)
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That, my friend, is the problem with those people that think that way.  They do not think about the fact that they enjoy the freedom to speak out against their government because millions of men and women have died defending that right.  Anyone who ever says taht we should just dump the military all together is woefully ignorant of the truth.  not only does the military fight to rpeserve our rights, and show the world what it feels like to have those rights, but it also provides millions of jobs in not only the US, but around the world.  Having a massive military helps our defense and our economy in a big way.  If we got rid of the military all together in just an instant (historically speaking) the US would fall into absolute turmoil economically and would likely sink bacck deeply into the depression that plagues us still today.  Gettign rid of the military woudl make us defenseless to attack by our enemies, powerless to defend our friends, and knock out from under us a major economic leg that we stand on.  All in all, it would just be plain stupid to get ris of the military.
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I suppose that, in this instance, I would side with the mainstream democrats, not the 6 or so that keep voting for "Come home now!"\nThat was context.\n\nI'm not opposed to the war on terror. For example, I believe we should have gone into Afghanistan. That made sense.\nIraq didn't. That's my firm OPINION. I support the war on Terror, but I don't support what I perceive to be the war on terror destroying what the United States IS. For example, we've seen the executive use the war on terror to deny hundreds and hundreds of folks their right to not be held without reason. The Supreme Court just labeled Guantanamo that, I think quite clearly. \n\nTo answer your question more directly, I am an absolutist. I believe that occasions where relativism fits morally are created by prior fails to 'do the right thing.' Like the example of "What if you were hiding Jews, and the SS asked you if you were. Would you LIE?" Well, this example, which seems to support moral relativism, is caused by the SS's failure to observe basic morality. So I am an absolutist. I believe in a firm list of right & wrong. I believe in absolutes, and absolute truth. (I'm a christian; not much of a way around it for us, is there?)\nI believe firmly that it is wrong to kill non-combatants for political/military ends. This is what terrorism is. I believe this is universally, always, everywhere, wrong. And I support our government for attacking it.\nI do not support our government when it uses this good thing as a pretext to do other things.\n\n-Stephen
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I agree with many of your points that you bring up, but then again...here is a good reason why people might be undicided....\n\nDemocrats and Rebulicans are very close on the issues.....many of them are very hard to tell apart. I know that the republican party claims to be conservative, but I haven't seen anything conservative in the Bush administration. National Defense is not a conservative or a liberal issue in my eyes...It's an American issue. But unfortunately many Democrats want to cut and run from Iraq, causing even more problems in the middle east. \n\nWell, I did end up voting for almost all the republicans on the ballot this year. I voted for one Democrat and one Libertarian.\n\nI need a new party....If the Fair Tax orginization would start a new party....well, I would be there.\n\nI guess what I am trying to say is, both of the major parties are money and power hungry...... Take away their tax power on the public and America will grow so fast.....It would be unbelievable.\n\nJust one honest guys opinion....\n\nTravis Hill\nugadawg30@yahoo.com
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I think it's that the opposite of liberal is conservative.  Conservatives favor the ways and institutions of the past, and would like to revert to them.  And many republicans are conservatives.  Their ideal is therefor the polar opposite of liberals.  And no, I don't think there's anything wrong with liberals, both keeping an open mind and respecting the past seem like good ideas to me.  That's why I couldn't be a member of the press.  I make too much sense and am too respectful of other peoples opinions.
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After thinking many years about my ideas about liberal and conservative politics. I have come to define liberal politics as those that liberate the many from a power structure that concentrates the wealth of the global culture into the hands of a mercenary, plutocratic, predatory few. I have come to define conservative politics as those that conserve a power structure that concentrates the wealth of the many of our global culture into the hands of a mercenary, plutocratic, predatory few.\n\nWhy should I expect to win a "war on terror" by creating terror in war? Why should I expect to win a war on terror by giving all my gold to a mercenary plutocratic predatory few when it is a mercenary plutocratic predatory few that profit from the demand for protection created by terrorist activity? Terrorist activity creates demand in the market place for the protection services offered by a mercenary plutocratic predatory few. I think, believe and expect a more rational approach to winning the war on terror would be to redistribute of the wealth of the global culture by taking wealth from a mercenary plutocratic predatory few and giving wealth to the many. This would have the dual effect of diminishing the profits derived by a mercenary plutocratic predatory few from operating a global shakedown of epic proportions that some call a war on terror; and enabling the many to protect themselves from terrorist attack as individuals by using wealth acquired through redistribution .
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In a brief nutshell, today's Republicans (the Good Old Party, GOP) are characterised by a want for 'smaller' government, a more agile (not necissarily bigger) military, and a connection with (usually religious) blue-color 'everyman' workers.  They believe in a government that is reflective of overarching, 'home grown' family values, as can be best seen in their "Contract With America". Democrats are more for creating a social welfare society, and believe that goverment should play a more active role in daily life (though not necissarily intrusive).  Many people brand this party as being 'liberal', which is actually a fairly new designation considering many Democrats (also known then as Dixiecrats) were opposed to 'liberal' civil rights reforms in the 1960s.  Further, whereas Republicans target typically older citizens, Democrats tend to lean towards younger, educated professionals (for example yuppies) and are a favorite on college campuses.  Unfortunately, in today's America politics has become frieghteningly divisive.  We can't even have a hurricane (I cite Katrina) without people pulling out 'Repbulican this' or 'Democrat that'.  Further, the two parties aren't helping the matter either.  Whenever someone does something wrong (For example a Republican President or Democratic governor), it is suddenly the fault of the entire party, and not just that one person.  You seem educated enough to visit each party's website and read their platform.  Skip over anything with the word 'Iraq' or 'terror' in it (because these are in the spotlight, and are likely to be uselessly full of propogand) and instead read your opinions on issues that effect your daily life, such as public education, health care and taxes.  I think you (and many other people) would be surprised at how much the two parties actually agree on, but with different routes.
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I used to be one of those thinking conservatives. I'm embarrassed to admit I was a Republican for most of my adult life. But with age, comes wisdom (for some of us).\nI turned my back on the Republican party about two years into the Clinton presidency. I got disgusted with the attempts to get Clinton out of office with one so-called "scandal", after another. When one thing didn't work, they went on to the next...for the entire eight years.\nIt's a wonder the man managed to get ANY thing done. Including a "bj".\nAnd yet, get things done, he did. I came to greatly admire the man for persevering those eight years.\nSo, yes. This former thinking conservative got tired of it a long time ago.
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Amen.\nSo when do we start the new party?\nPersonally, I'd like to find a political party is fiscally responsible, socially active and is 100% against invading private lives.\nAs a friend once described me: my head is a Republican, my heart is a Democrat and my body is independent.