ALONG WITH THOSE BOGUS IRAQI WMD'S?\n\nWHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE CHIMP'S 'I WANT BIN LADEN DEAD OR ALIVE' RHETORIC??
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If you knock that beard & moustach off of Bin Laden he looks just like George Bush. Isn't that amaizing? The new Congress America is getting ready to have will settle all these crimes. Vote the terrorists out in November.
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To have something to complain about. For example:\n\nIraq's arsenal of weapons of mass destruction was not captured by US forces who heroically brought down Saddam Hussein's regime three years ago this week. It vanished before they arrived.\nIsraeli intelligence reported before the US-led invasion that starting in late summer 2002 Saddam's WMD arsenal was shipped by truck convoy to Syria. Recently, documents seized from Iraq after the fall of the regime were released to the public. Those documents revealed that under the direct command of former Russian prime minister and KGB boss Yevgeny Primakov, Russian Spetnaz forces oversaw the transfer of Iraq's WMD to Syria ahead of the US-led invasion. These reports have been corroborated by Saddam's Air Vice Marshall General Georges Sada.\n\nSo rather than being destroyed or secured, Saddam's WMD arsenal was simply moved from one rogue regime with intimate ties to terror organizations to another rogue regime with intimate ties to terror organizations.\n\nOf course, American Media will NOT report this, it will prove Bush right, and then they would look stupid.\n\nMichael Moore, thanks:\nFriday, 23 June 2006 \nWhen News Lies \n\n\nWHEN NEWS LIES\nMedia Complicity and The Iraq War\n\n\nBy Danny Schechter, The News Dissector\n\n\n\nA new book from Danny Schechter offers an up to date indictment of the role media played in promoting and misreporting the war on Iraq. It is an analysis of how and why the media got it wrong that pinpoints the failures of journalism and the collusion of media companies with the Bush Administration. The author of EMBEDDED: Weapons of Mass Deception (Prometheus 2003), an account of the TV coverage of the US invasion, returns with a more comprehensive, updated and insider look at the media complicity that Schechter argues "made the war possible."\n\n\n\n"Most of the anti-war movement focused on the crimes of the Bush Administration ignoring the mainstream media, its far more effective accomplice," says former network producer Danny Schechter (ABC, CNN). "The government orchestrated the war while the media marketed it. You couldn't have one without the other."\n\n\n\nWHEN NEWS LIES includes the feature -length DVD of the prize-winning film WMD (Weapons of Mass Deception). The book will also include the complete script as well as a discussion of the challenges of exposing media with media with a documentary. It chronicles the media war fought alongside the military campaign and the struggle to stand up for truth. \n\nSource(s):\nGoogle it:\n\nSaddam, WMD, Spetsnaz\n\nhttp://www.wmdthefilm.com/mambo/index.ph...
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Everyone notice, not one intelligent response or idea from a liberal. Just crap.\n\nEDIT: Hey G, no troops in Pakistan because they don't want them and they would destabilize a teetering government that has nuclear weapons. How many buildings has Bin Laden taken out lately? He is in caves with people who would die to keep him hidden. He will fall eventually. Can't hide forever.\n\nRE-EDIT: 20,000 troops in Afghanistan because they had the military might of the L.A.P.D, we didn't need more, they had the Northern Alliance there to fill the void.\n\n100,000 in Iraq because they had a real military with 500,000 troops. Other than Saddam's regime, there was no one else to take power, hence the large occupation force
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you really think this is all about Bin Laden??How can you believe such propaganda?\nTell me,how is Osama communicating with his operatives world wide and pulling off all these mastermind stunts?
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Abu Gharib ... ooooh scary, dogs barked at me, someone put underwear on my head, a woman pointed at me and laughed.  Big deal.\n\nGuantanamo ... tell me, what happened there.  FACTS, not the NewsWeek/60 Minutes lies.  Air conditioned rooms, 3 hots and a cot, meals made specially for them.  WOW that's real torture.\n\nHaditha ... you don't know what happened there, I don't know what happened.  All we know is that there has been an investigation, all of the Marines were given thumbs up on a job well done.  No soldier is being charged with anything.\n\nOK now let's look at the guys we are fighting:\n-using women/children as bombs\n-beheadings, kidnappings, REAL torture, rape\n-blowing up anything and everything with IEDs\n-these guys would kill you, your family, and everyone you know if you gave them half a chance\n\nSo before you want to wring your hands and shout THOSE POOR PEOPLE.  Look at the facts before you dump on Pres Bush and our marines and demand we leave.
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The story has been reported on various news media. The problem is that the version of story that Fox "news" is running isn't the whole truth. The WMD we went to war for have not been found. We did not go to war to find decades-old chemical weapons that had been buried since the Iran-Iraq War. We were looking for WMD proving an ongoing weapons capability that could pose a threat to world peace, not these aging remnants. President Bush has already accepted the findings in the Duelfer Report dismissing these weapons as irrelevant. (See link below)\n\nMore importantly, we already knew about those weapons and turned the other cheek when they were originally produced. Google "Rumsfeld" "Reagan" and "Saddam Hussein" and you'll learn all about the U.S. support of the Iraqi ruler during the Iran-Iraq War, when we supported one monster (Hussein) in the hopes of defeating another (Khomeini). We knew at that time that Saddam Hussein was using chemical weapons against his enemies and his own people, but we did nothing about it. Or more accurately, we signed a piece of paper saying we disapproved of his use of chemical agents, but we continued cutting deals with him because he was fighting a common enemy. We even sold him some of the chemicals that he used to construct these weapons because he seemed like the lesser of two evils at the time. Ironically, we were therefore partly responsible for creating the monster that he is today.\n\nAs a result, the real reason why the WMD story isn't any bigger is because the Republicans want it just big enough for their conservative supporters to hear it and say to themselves, "They found WMD!" but not so loud that people actually start asking questions about where and how these chemical weapons were manufacture or, more importantly, about who supplied Iraq with the raw materials to make them. That would make Reagan, Rumsefeld, and by extension, the Republican party as a whole look like hypocrites. So it's best to keep the story just large enough for Fox news addicts but not so large that the rest of the world hears about it.\n\nIncidentally, I don't suppose you remember what the liberal response was when Bush originally announced his intention to break international law in order to attack a sovereign nation, claiming that  we "knew" Iraq had WMD? One of the most quoted responses at that time was, "Of course we knew he has WMD! We sold them to him!!!" \n\nOnce again, if you people had only been listening to the liberals in the first place, you'd be so much farther ahead in the game.
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oh no dear it was completely accidental that it occur ed just before elections. lol, of course it was a ploy, politicians no matter how they act are not stupid, but they think that the American public is that is why they do this sort of thing, to swing your opinion. Even though Saddam has nothing to do with the war on terror and neither does Iraq if u think about it. He is a distraction from a failure to get osama! simple as that. Now they are going to use his sentencing as propaganda to show how good they have been doing. They are just trying to manipulate people and it is sad and pathetic!
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... that's an excellent question... apparently Saddam (who killed no one on American soil) is more important than Osama (who killed 3,000 on American soil).... It doesn't make sense to me...\n\nIf Osama does attack again.... as far as I'm concerned... it's over for the Repubs... you don't give someone another chance to hit you after he kills 3,000 ... that's just stupid...\n\nAnd many say Osama's not a threat... with NO EVIDENCE TO BACK IT UP... they don't even know where he is or what he's doing? yet they say Kerry was weak on defense? HOW CAN YOU GET WEAKER THAN THIS?\n\nI CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT SO OFTEN SAY "YOUR A PANSY" JUST LET THE LIVES OF 3,000 GO WITH NO REAL CARE FOR THE MAN THAT MURDERED THEM... THEY MAKE ME, WHO'S LEANS TO THE LIBERAL, LOOK LIKE THE ONLY ONE WHO CARES... OR MAYBE I'M JUST SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT THAT IRAQ HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11?\n\nAND SOMEONE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT WIRE TAPPING... THIS IS 3,000 LIVES ON U.S. SOIL... THAT'S COMPLETELY OFF THE SUBJECT?
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Did the Liberals think that when Clinton would bomb places after a new Monica headline came out, that we would forget his crapola?\n\nThe garbage we don't buy is this liberal hate propaganda we hear non-freaking-stop
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??? I question your logic. We didn't go into iraq to SEE if they had wmd - we told the world that there WERE wmds there and we had to get them out. So right there - your logic is off.\n\nFP
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Alive and well - probably\nBut if he was under the US govt's pay, why would the government make fake tapes?\nHas anyone even heard of BinLaden going against America before 9/11? America helped him drive out the Soviets and establish Taliban. Then they kicked him out. Same with Iraq. Anyone thought he could be another one of Bush's use and throw victims? Like Saddam Hussein? Those fake tapes are the biggest 'evidence' they have of Bin Laden attacking America.
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You know.... this whole WMD debate is really just flat silly.  We KNOW they had WMD's for two very obvous reasons.  \n\n1)  He used them to gas hundreds of Kurds in '88.  He killed hundred of people!!  It's not propaganda, it's not right wing rhetoric, it's not some strange fruit cakes unsubstantiated editorial..  It's a fact!!\n\n2)  The other reason we know, though a little less welcome in the media is that WE SOLD THEM TO IRAQ!!  Durring the Iran Iraq war, we backed Saddam.  Makes sense after Iran overran our embassy and held captive our diplomats back in '79 for us to back their oposition.  The enemy of our enemy is our friend kind of thing.  Just as we trained and equiped Afgani "freedom fighters" durring the soviet invation, we trained and equiped Iraq durring the Iran Iraq war.  We know they had WMD's then, because we have the reciepts.  It's a plain, unwelcome fact.  Made sense at the time, but there it is.  \n\nClinton may or may not have had data on WMD's in Iraq in '98, but I really don't see how it matters, they were there.  The WMD's are most likely either burried in the desert, or in Seria now.
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And what about that CIA lady that Rove had killed cause her husband was a critic?  Oh yeah he denied it..so it must not be true...lol.\n\nWhat happened to the guy Cheney shot while hunting with their mistresses?\n\nThat story kinda disappeared.\n\nAnd what IS the deal between Bush and Rice?  lol  cant get that image out of my mind (true or not its just funny)\n\nRemember when the nazis get mad and call names its cause your point hit home.  Maybe one will disagree respectfully?  Not likely...but would be a nice change.\n\nbtw. Liberal simply means free...Con means trick.\n\nPS  just read Larry's post....there it goes again the persistent view that Iraq was connected to the towers...where do they get this info from?  A couple of headlines and these people will want to invade anyplace and kill anyone.  The power of propaganda.\n\nLove your enemy good Christians.
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Ever heard the term "chicken hawk"? Only Bush is more like a "chicken monkey", at least he looks like a monkey and he sure is a chicken$!#+ SOB. Of course he evaded serving his country, he still is.
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Not sure what the question is?\n\nI forgot the name of that recent report that officially stated the Iraqi War had created and was still creating more terrorists. So, you make a valid point.\n\nDo I care about what has happened and this creating terrorists? Of course I do... I want us to get OUT of there.
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HE STARTED A BOGUS WMD WAR BASED ON LIES IN IRAQ WHICH ABOUT 2500+ TROOPS HAVE DIED IN.\n\nHE OUTTED A CIA AGENTS IDENTITY BY PROXY.\n\nHE SIGNED FASCIST LEGISLATION INTO LAW LIKE THE PATRIOT ACT.  (NOTICE THE PSYCHOLOGY IN THE NAME, IF YOU ARE AGAINST THE PATRIOT ACT YOU ARE 'UNPATRIOTIC', VERY CLEVER OF BUSH'S MINIONS TO TITLE IT THAT WAY.)\n\nOVER 2 MILLION MANUFACTURING JOBS HAVE LEFT THIS COUNTRY SINCE BUSH TOOK OVER.\n\nOSAMA, THE ONE WHO ACTUALLY ATTACKED US, WALKS FREE. WHILE SADDAM, WHO NEVER DID ANYTHING TO US FACES EXECUTION.  MY DETRACTORS WILL SAY BUSH 'FREED THE IRAQI PEOPLE'  TO THIS I SAY, WHY THE HELL IS OUR DUTY TO FREE THEM??  I THINK THOSE THAT WANT TO PAY FOR IT SHOULD, BUT LEAVE MY TAXES OUT OF IT!!\n\nBUSH IS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY.
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if you find out please tell me. i also wonder why do we keep refeing to 9/11? i hate the song "have you forgotten" NO! i havent forgotten thats why i wanna know why are we in Iraq instead of chasin bin laden? ohhh thats right, were there so bush could fill his daddys dream... With all our guys in Iraq i hope the government sleeps well knowing the "terrorist" is still at large!!\nPS~ this is the same as Vietnam in my opinion.it also has nothing to do with us yet we stand to loose the most.