I have not seen even ONE post against LEGAL immigration yet pro illegals keep using the race card to justify ILLEGALS.  YOU are the racist. (I can't wait to hear all the "excuses" for this one.)\n\nStop using the race card.  It doesn't work anymore.
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You know, that is so funny that you posted this.  I posted a question just like this and people called ME a racist and I am an immigrant from the Ukraine!  I am not even WHITE!!!  I posted the websites for hispanics for legal immigration, Vietnamese for immigration reform, etc.\nHEre's a letter from a retired Border Patrol Agent who had the balls to say it like it is!\nA retired border patrol agent shows some common sense\n\n    This letter sent to Tennessee Senator Bill Frist from a retired border \npatrol agent, and it has more common sense than all the bull being spewed \nfrom the Senate, with the exception of a few sensible representatives.\n\n    Dear Senator Frist:\n\n    There is a huge amount of propaganda and myths circulating about illegal \naliens, particularly illegal Mexican, Salvadorian, Guatemalan and Honduran \naliens.\n\n    #1.\n    Illegal aliens generally do NOT want U.S. citizenship. Americans are \nvery vain thinking that everybody in the world wants to be a U.S. citizen. \nMexicans, and other nationalities want to remain citizens of their home \ncountries while obtaining the benefits offered by the United States such as \nemployment, medical care, in-state tuition, government subsidized housing \nand free education for their offspring. Their main attraction is employment \nand their loyalty usually remains at home. They want benefits earned and \nsubsidized by middle class Americans. What illegal aliens want are benefits \nof American residence without paying the price.\n\n    #2.\n    There are no jobs that Americans won't do. Illegal aliens are doing jobs \nthat Americans can't take and still support their families. Illegal aliens \ntake low wage jobs, live dozens in a single residence home, share expenses \nand send money to their home country. There are no jobs that Americans won't \ndo for a decent wage.\n\n    #3.\n    Every person who illegally entered this nation left a home. They are NOT \nhomeless and they are NOT Americans. Some left jobs in their home countries. \nThey come to send money to their real home as evidenced by the more than 20 \nbillion dollars sent out of the country each year by illegal aliens. These \nillegal aliens knowingly and willfully entered this nation in violation of \nthe law and therefore assumed the risk of detection and deportation. Those \nwho brought their alien children assumed the responsibility and risk on \nbehalf of their children.\n\n    #4.\n    Illegal aliens are NOT critical to the economy. Illegal aliens \nconstitute less than 5% of the workforce. However, they reduce wages and \nbenefits for lawful U.S. residents.\n\n    #5.\n    This is NOT an immigrant nation. There are 280 million native born \nAmericans. While it is true that this nation was settled and founded by \nimmigrants (legal immigrants), it is also true that there is not a nation on \nthis planet that was not settled by immigrants at one time or another.\n\n    #6.\n    The United States is welcoming to legal immigrants. Illegal aliens are \nnot immigrants by definition. The U.S. accepts more lawful immigrants every \nyear than the rest of the world combined.\n\n    #7.\n    There is no such thing as the "Hispanic vote". Hispanics are white, \nbrown, black and every shade in between. Hispanics are Republicans, \nDemocrats, Anarchists, Communists, Marxists and Independents. The so-called \n"Hispanic vote" is a myth. Pandering to illegal aliens to get the Hispanic \nvote is a dead end.\n\n    #8.\n    Mexico is NOT a friend of the United States. Since 1848 Mexicans have \nresented the United States. During World War I Mexico allowed German Spies \nto operate freely in Mexico to spy on the U.S. During World War II Mexico \nallowed the Axis powers to spy on the U.S. from Mexico. During the Cold War \nMexico allowed spies hostile to the U.S. to operate freely. The attack on \nthe Twin Towers in 2001 was cheered and applauded all across Mexico. Today \nMexican
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WE use the race card? Pro-illegals are the ones that state that "Not all illegal immigrants are Mexican", then say that "The only reason you people hate illegals is that you don't want a taste of the Hispanic culture."
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Its very unethical; and sadly yes some are going to lable you a racist for asking it.  \n\nHere is the question I would have posed; which is going get them to lable me a racist too I'm sure.  How unethical would it be to order them to stop coming into this country illegally and then shoot if they didn't stop?
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The "racist white people" you are referring to are against ILLEGAL immigrants.  Why is that so hard to understand?!?!?!
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a civil war... over this?!  That is a melodramatic statement.  Is the issue out of hand?  yes.  People tend to complicate things before they solve them.  \n\nI've written the following into several discussions but here's a suggested solution:\n\n\nThe reality is that US immigration policy is inherently racist.  The moment you use a quota system in a lottery to figure out who can come in, you are a racist. We need to resolve this once and for all.  Amnesty won't work because we don't enforce the laws.  America tried amnesty some twenty years ago, and here we are,\n\nFor the record, it's not just Mexicans, but illegal immigrants from anywhere including Western/Eastern/Central Europe, Asia, Africa, and South/Central America.\n\nWhat we need to do is resolve our racist policies the following is an example of what I would do:\n\n1.Simplify the process\na.Charge $3000, USD.\nb.Request proof of birth, proof of no criminal record, work history and 6 references\n\n2.Give a specific time-frame say 1 year.\n\n3.No quotas, if you pass, you pass.  If you don’t pass, you are not welcome, not even to visit.\na.If you don’t pass there must be an initial review to make sure nothing was missed\nb.There should be a 1 time appeal.  The results of which can not be contested.\n\n4.Once in the US, you are on a temp status for the next 6 years.  If you want permanent status, then you must prove the following:\na.You have worked/gone to school,\nb.Paid all relevant taxes (local, state, federal),\nc.Committed no crimes, \nd.Have a minimum capacity of functional English (speak/read/write).\n\n5.Complete all of item 4 and you get your initial application fee back (less interest).\n\n6.Any illegal in the US at the time of the law would be allowed to submit their papers locally without fear of incarceration (unless other criminal issues attach)\n\n7.Make it a crime to hire illegal immigrants.  With a simple formula:  Whoever is responsible for hiring  does 5 years for each illegal hired; this could only be served sequentially, not concurrently.\n\n8.For anyone who opts to remain illegal or come here illegally after the new immigration standard:  \na.No benefits; not medical, dental, no drivers’ licenses, no emergency room visits, nothing.\nb.The same would apply for the children of illegal immigrants born here.\n\n9.The key is that immigration must be reasonable and fair.\n\nAs for the illegal immigrants here now, well they should submit the same documentation and expect no preference during the approval process.  They should be allowed to stay here during the process.  If found to be unacceptable, jail and then deportation.
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I think this particular pissing contest was started by a bunch of psuedo-militant hispanics, bent on gaining access to america by any means necessary, you should talk to them about your feelings on racism...anytime someone throws the race card, there's going to be backlash.\n\nWe don't need this stuff in america, but we've got it now...\nbe sure to thank all the nice people that have come into the country in recent years with an attitude, and a chip on their shoulders, ready to pick a fight...
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Saying someone is racist is a quick way to get out of a debate if you are losing. just like that english national language bill passed recently. Many people called it "racist" because they were against it. It only damages their own side and makes them lose credibility. I liked when one senator asked "what color is english?"\n\nNow if someone is losing a debate on illegals (can't find positives for illegal immigration) they will say "Well you're just racist!" or "you're a redneck!". They just resort to name calling'\n\n"Because your racist." -- Pancha\n\nsee pancha is probably the worst one on here, all of her posts say what I just pointed out. She either says "you're racist" or "you're a redneck". Even though I live in new england.\n\n\n"primarily because "whites" were the last to have slaves in our country and that wound is still fresh albeit it happened 40 to 50 years ago."\n\nWhat?? Slavery ended in the early 1800s. Hundreds of thousands of white people died in the civil war over it.\n\nAnd your comment about racism still existing. yes it does and we must not put any laws against it. Whether it be black on white or white on black. We can't become anti-freedom of speech.\n\n"Take a trip outside of your safe borders and get a whole new perspective of the WORLD. Then you will begin to see........ if you'r not in denial or a coward."\n\nYeah we are not talking about third world countries, we are discussing people selfishly using the race card in the USA to win arguements.\n\n"IF YOU WERE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE I'M VERY SURE YOU WOULD NOT BE COMPLAINING ABOUT PULLING "THE RACE CARD.""\n\nUhh yeah because the klan is still running around lynching people and blacks and minorities aer still being oppressed by the gov. Wake up in the 21st century, its over. No one is being discriminated. May be someone will make fun of you for who you are in life, but how is that severe? Happens to everyone.\n\nAnd the people using teh race card are usually white liberals who are losing the debate on illegal immigration.
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the illegal ones have no right to be here ....PERIOD !!\n It is an insult to the many who have gone through the legal channels...try to get into Mexico illegally and steal their jobs,health care,governament grants,change their language & all their road signs and see were it lands you.\n I am not racist....I just believe the USA has allowed way too many to come here illegally....a few years ago a Cuban boy ,in Florida,was taken by the SWAT team,sent by sweetheart Rino...and sent back to Cuba to a father he didn't really know....how much money was wasted on all that?\n The people who are REALLY discriminated against are the Christians...they are not even allowed to display a nativity scene at Christmas time ?? The 10 Commandments are a hate crime...say God bless you and you offend someone...I just wonder how much money & time our nation has watsed on all this...when our nation was founded for the Christains to have the freedom to worship,without the government stepping in and controlling the churches....Seperation of Church & State was written so that wouldn't happen..yet it's turned & twisted now to make it the church HAS to OBEY the courts(governmentally ...appointed judges) or be sent to jail,fined,told they are "haters".....Now that's REAL discrimination in action !!\n Round up all those with Visas and those who are here legally,put a VeriChip in them...to keep track of their expired status....when it's up...home they go....the ones who can not prove they have a LEGAL right to be here...send them back home.helping the leagl Americans find a job....it's .cheaper than suporting them with free medical treatment,housing & food....which every hard working tax payers has to pay for...while our own LEGAL citizens go without.
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Well it's pretty simple but clearly you are just an ignorant ass. Let me ask you one question. Are you a Native American? \n\nThey are probably here for the same reasons your family came to be here persecution, hardships, a shot at giving themselves and their families a better life. Do you realize the chances and danger they face trying to get into our country? This should be a complement to all of us. We have such a wonderful country that people are willing to take incredible risks just to be here. Should we punish people for wanting a better life?\n\nI will also say I am a car salesman. Let me tell you I'm all for them getting Social Security cards. Most of the Hispanic people (I'm assuming this is what you are targeting) I have met in through the business work very hard and long hours so they can provide for their family. Most have at least Tax ID's so that means we are collecting tax's from them so why not allow them the rights and freedoms we enjoy. It's a shame that I cannot sell them vehicles because they do not have SS cards. Also I have several banks that will only loan money to Hispanic people. Do you know why? They do so because the Hispanic community has a much better rate of paying their bills unlike most of the "Americans".\n\nI have one final question for you. If we didn't allow anyone into our country how would that benefit you?
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Youre Exactly Right\nThats Why This Hairbrained Scheme Is POINTLESS\n\nThe ILLEGAL Camp Continues To Lay Claim That WERE All Racists - When In Fact This Entire "BOYCOTT/PROTEST" Has Been Organized By, And Will Consist Of RACISTS Attempting To STRONGARM Our Government Into Granting Amnesty To ILLEGAL Aliens In Our Country\n\nThe Only Result To Come From This Endorsement \nCondoning ANARCHY And The Breaking Of Our Laws\nWill Be Violence In The Streets\n\nPeople Will Get Hurt That Day For NO REASON
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There are SO many I respect on immigration.....YET do not agree with.  \n\nYou mentioned DAR.....he is perhaps the only one who isn't 100 percent one sided.  By that I mean so Pro he can't see Con....or likewise.  \n\nI love the passion of some of these people.  I wish this passion could be bottled and sent to DC.  That is the only place we (any of us) are going to make a difference.\n\nAlso....my stance on holding the employers responsible has never wavered.  If you choose to call these people felons....well than you damn well better call the employers felons.  \n\nStill everyone uses the race card....that is not significant in this crisis......until you get a poster who says...."Because a Mexican did this to me.....or because I lost my job to a wet back".  Well than how do we not expect racism and call it out. \n\nGood question.....I probably could have answered better....but I happen to be one of those "bleeding hearts" that get posted about so often.\n\nPeace
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I truly understand and admire you for admitting it.  I, too, have become a racist.  Mexicans are creating a very uncomfortable position for themselves.  Again, thank you for being brave in your admissions.  You are not alone.\n\nTHIS IS WHAT MEXICANS HAVE CREATED!
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Get use to it.  The real native Americans did!\n\nAll the racism in the world WILL NOT stop immigrants - legal or not.  So shut the f*ck up and move over! \n\n\nI say welcome muchachos - there is room for all of us.!!
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The idiots who have answered this question so far are obviously ASSUMING by your name that you are not an American citizen.  Their racism is showing, no?  Dear friends, this man is an American citizen.  Want to maybe rethink your answers now?\n\nDear sweet Mimi, and the Titanic was unsinkable, right?  And the earth was flat.  Racists have never won in this country.  You will be the ones shunned when we get through this current new politically correct wave of racism and everyone starts recognizing Hispanics as the human beings that they are and allowing them their God-given rights as such.  God didn't put a better soul in you because of the WHITE packaging.  Sorry to burst your bubble!\n\nWHEN amnesty and/or the Guest Worker Program goes into effect I think the Minutemen will run like the lily-livered cowards that they really are.  How much courage does it take to stand at a border heavily armed and face unarmed desperate men, some of whom are on the verge of death from their journey and act like God?  What heroes!
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Don't let it bother you.  It's a last ditch effort to justify ILLEGAL actions.  The race card no longer holds any meaning here.
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hide behind words like illegal ?  wtf  its a word to describe breaking the law i don't care if your purple its still the word used for breaking the law  try to come up with something new besides the race card  its old and its not working
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are you sure you know what a racist is?? i keep seeing that term thrown around by angry people who have no real argument. why should somebody be called a racist because they have a different opinion than someone Else's. BECAUSE I DONT WANT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING TO THE U.S. DOESN'T MEAN I'M A RACIST.I DON'T CARE WHERE THEY HAPPEN TO BE COMING FROM, NOR WHAT COLOR THEY ARE. I DON'T WANT THEM HERE. u.s. citizenship is a birthright, or earned legally otherwise. the others are criminals breaking the law.\n\nthank you.