If they get a check, taxes are deducted from it.  Since they don't have a real social security number, they can't get the benefits.  There is also an id for people without a social security number to pay taxes.  Then why do they pay taxes if they know they can't get the benefits? Because they hope this help them become citizens.  Look at this: \nhttp://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0321/p02s01-ussc.html
204633
If you go to the local health department they will treat you regardless as to whether or not you are a citizen of this country or not.\n\nI think the biggest thing is not about taxes its about them being here "illegally"...if they are working they should get work visas.
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Do some research!\n\nLess than 1/10th of 1% of illegal immigrants pay taxes.\n\nThe Social Security Card (fake) only enables them to be employed. \n\nYes, to the employer, they claim many "exemptions" - so they have less taken out of their paycheck.\n\nThey learn all about this from those who give them the fake cards.\n\nBut most, simply get "cash" payment from unscrupulous employers, who don't want to pay "matching funds." Same thing holds true for those who "sub-contract" and give them a form 1099 at the end of the year. The 1099 is ignored by the so-called sub-contractor, and the employer if later contacted by IRS, holds up a paper showing a sub-contract agreement. (also bogus). \n\nDoubt seriously many employers who go the sub-contract route, even have to pony up to the IRS.
293511
Yes it seems strange to me that all of a sudden this issue has caused so much hatred. And it is something that has been around for years. Statistics show that most people on welfare are white americans. When an illegal comes here they dont even know they can get welfare for their US born kids until they make an appointment for a doctor they pay cash to see and at the hospital they are told about welfare.Or some are told by friends or relatives but they are afraid to get it because they are illegal or they dont know how to go about it. Many illegals do have taxes taken out of their checks even if they use a fake social security number and then they never file taxes and dont get a refund so that is more money the govt keeps.ANd of course when they purchase something they pay the tax. I dont agree with that idea that illegals dont pay taxes.\n\nPeople that have no idea what they are talking about hate their miserable lives so they point the finger and blame to illegals. Instead of taking resposibility for their own lives. If they finish school and work hard for a better life they will have no reason to complain.
556160
I have wondered this same thing many times.  The illegal immigrant supporters always say these things, "Well, there are lots of American citizens on welfare!" and " American citizens break laws, too." and "Lots of American citizens are in jail."  "Sometimes American citizens steal SSNs."  "Sometimes American citizens drive without licenses or insurance."  What these questioners don't seem able to grasp is that, yes, we have bad American citizens, too, but the big difference is that they are AMERICAN citizens, meaning they ARE our problem and so we have to deal with them with our systems and our tax dollars.  However, illegal immigrants are NOT our legal problems - they are legal residents of their own home countries and only those countries should have to deal with them and their problems.  We should not have to pay for illegal immigrants' children attending our tax-paid schools, and we should not have to pay for their medical care when they go to the ERs of our hospitals.  They should not even be here and every time they are discovered via arriving at ERs, applying for social services, registering their children in schools, applying for jobs, etc., they should be immediately arrested and they and their families who are also illegally in the USA should be deported immediately, no questions asked and no consideration, whatsoever.
408871
Because they're bastards.  The retirement package is not free to the employer, and often the employer would rather not pay it.  It sucks.
294102
The illegals get welfare by stealing social security numbers and identities and using false papers. Therefore, the time limits under the Clinton welfare reform doesn't apply to them because once the time limit is up, all they have to do is get new stolen social security numbers and identities and false papers and start all over again. American citizens who draw welfare are limited to the time limits from the welfare reform and are then cut off. American citizens who fall on hard times and have to turn to welfare assistance have a harder time finding jobs that pay enough to live off of because the illegals have taken jobs and depressed the wages of those jobs still available to American citizens. Therefore, those in the lower working class are highly unlikely to ever be able to "work their way up" since the opportunities have been stolen which will entrap these people into poverty with little to no way out.
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Are they....I dunno...what I do know is that do the job "Americans" wont and get paid pennies for it.  Plus employers take advantage of them and don't offer any type of medical or dental or anything.  Most of them work 10 times harder than any American in the US.  I don't think its right they don't pay taxes. It's unfair for us to assume they all want to be here without paying their dues, some do want to but can't.  I dunno, I can go either way on the subject but all I can say is that every American at some point in time was an illegal...heck...didn't we steal this country anyway?
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It's for tax identification purposes for the IRS.  It can also be used with a drivers license to satisfy the I-9 form, which proves you can legally work in the United States.  Normally, on a criminal background check they use your Date of Birth and drivers license to identify you as the person with or without a record, not your social security number
636463
If they got a job, they would have to pay taxes and would lose their welfare checks.  They would be forced to contribute to the society that owes them something for being 'less fortunate'.
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Where I live, there is a HUGE Hispanic population.  All, if not 99% of the illegals here DO pay income taxes.  Most of them work under false SS#'s.  So...they DO pay in but cannot collect income tax refunds.  If people in America would educate themselves I wonder if anyone would be complaining.  In my personal experience the only people I have known of in my life that have worked under-the-table have been White and it was t either avoid income tax or to screw unemployment.  This immigration debate is fueled by ignorance.  The focus is on "those Mexicans" instead of on improving the LEGAL immigration process.  This isn't 70 years ago when my Grandparents got off their boat from Portugal, waited in line, told someone their name and YAY! We're Legal!!
217791
Has JD ever had an original thought?  War, invasion - typical scare tactics that too many ignorant citizens choose to worship.  You act as if you earned your citizenship.  It is just a matter of luck that you were born in this country.  You are not special and you have never done anything spacial, just dumb luck.  What is a bigger drain on society a population that works but can't pay taxes because their oppressors choose to look the other way or citizens who sit on their butts and collect TANF (welfare) and don't pay a penny in taxes?  Guess which ethnicity makes up the highest percent of the total welfare recipients.  Let's just say "illegal" immigrants can't receive welfare.
466185
They should try and remember that number then try to file taxes on that number and see how far it gets you.  Many people work under a false social number and the only thing that happens is the money goes to the treasury where nobody can claim it because it does not match with the Social Security Administration.....
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agree with you. It's something I think about quite a lot. Where I come from to work is kind of a privledge and a pain in the ass at the same time, but taxes do take a sizeable chunk out of anyone's income. People on a benefit admittedly do not receive a large income, but it's a pain in the ass when they say that they should be on one because "boo hoo" they are a single parent or whatever. And when the people who are working and basically, apart from all the rest of it, paying for them through their taxes, quite possibly have things which they could choose to say "boo hoo" about also. Anyway - that is just regarding your basic everyday run of the mill single parent family, which honestly probably does need quite a lot of help. If someone is together with someone else and passing themselves off as single so they can claim more benefits, then that is shitty yes. If they have plenty of money coming from someone else I don't think they should be chasing welfare stamps as a lifestyle option.
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As others have said, Unemployment is not related to Social Security.  Asking if anything "comes out of your Social Security" seams to indicate you are under the common misconception that you have a social security account.  The social security taxes you pay are used to pay benefits to current recipients and most people receive more than they 'pay in'.  The so called 'trust fund' is a collection of IOUs from the federal government.
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Illegal aliens can get welfare by applying for welfare with false/stolen id. Another way is if they have children who are US citizens, they can get welfare through them.\n\nAs a taxpayer, you pay taxes for things such as hospitals and schools. The taxes you pay should be used for healthcare and education of US citizens. Not of illegal aliens. But since hospitals are not allowed to refuse people emergency care and no one checks legal status when kids enroll in school, we have to pay for it.
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Some do pay taxes through stolen social security numbers, and IDs.  And they do get social services using fake IDs. \n\nMost school systems practice "Don't ask, Don't tell", so illegals do get free education funded by taxpayers. \n\nInternal Revenue Service (IRS) does issued TIN (indiv. taxpayer ID number) to illegal aliens, so they can pay taxes.
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call the social security office there is nothing i hate more then people who do that. my father is very sick and he is not eligible but i see all these people faking it and reeping money off the people who are currently not going to have social security as an option. another good way is to video tape it and send it to the social security office.