will this work with no box spring...i.e foam mattress on top of hard composition lpiece
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As long as you can push the bar between the mattress and hard composite piece it should work. The other issue might be the distance from the floor to the middle of the composite and mattress, the bars have to be able to adjust to that height. (In my case it was too high). A lower one should work
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I can only guess. How it works would kind of depend on how heavy the mattress is and how much pull the person is exerting on the bed assist. My intended use of this device changed from assist into bed to assist out of bed with something to hang onto while standing and transferring into wheelchair. Watching user stand it became evident another device was needed to get into bed and so I purchased a hand "ladder" from Amazon that is made of nylon webbing with 3 handles for the "steps". This goes across the bed and attaches either to the bed frame or, in my instance, I attached it to the bed assist you are asking about and both are working wonderfully. I hope this answers your question. I can only guess. How it works would kind of depend on how heavy the mattress is and how much pull the person is exerting on the bed assist. My intended use of this device changed from assist into bed to assist out of bed with something to hang onto while standing and transferring into wheelchair. Watching user stand it became evident another device was needed to get into bed and so I purchased a hand "ladder" from Amazon that is made of nylon webbing with 3 handles for the "steps". This goes across the bed and attaches either to the bed frame or, in my instance, I... » Read More I can only guess. How it works would kind of depend on how heavy the mattress is and how much pull the person is exerting on the bed assist. My intended use of this device changed from assist into bed to assist out of bed with something to hang onto while standing and transferring into wheelchair. Watching user stand it became evident another device was needed to get into bed and so I purchased a hand "ladder" from Amazon that is made of nylon webbing with 3 handles for the "steps". This goes across the bed and attaches either to the bed frame or, in my instance, I attached it to the bed assist you are asking about and both are working wonderfully. I hope this answers your question. « Show Less
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We have purchased 4 of these for my aging parents - one of which they had delivered to a vacation home. All of the beds they used it with had a box spring so I'm not sure. I would think it would work if there was a solid surface. There are foam covered bars so that would eliminate sliding but you may want to further protect any edges if you are worried about scratches.
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Tough to answer without seeing the edge, but if you have 2" or so it should work, The edge of the wooden box spring is quite strong. In fact I sit on the edge of my mattress each morning talking to my wife and I weigh about 180 lbs.
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yes Bonnie you can use your box spring with this mattress, but it will make your bed higher than a regular one ! I like mine that way , enjoy !
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I suppose you could but (a) it's going to be a high bed and (b) the foam mattress might slide atop the box spring base. The whole point of this mattress is that you don't need a box spring. I bought the bed "box" to go along with it and it's perfect!!
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No box spring needed. I bought one and the bed fit perfectly. the box spring might make the mattress to high
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It will work with a regular mattress. No box spring needed. Lots of space for storage underneath. Haven't noticed scratches on our stained concrete floor. Excellent choice.
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This would be a question for the manufacturer. I don't see why it would not work though because this "Beds Up" frame fits right into my metal frame and the box spring rests in the "Beds-Up" frame. So it should work for you.
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I would say yes, it does required a box spring. The base is only 7inches off the floor and with a mattress 9 inches thick this probably would be too low. I have used a box spring and in total the top of the mattress is 25 inches off the floor
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Yes it works. I would not use a box spring. The frame and a matress are enough and as for looks makes an appealing bed.
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I guess so. Mine is on a platform frame which is just flat with no support. Just keeps the mattress raised from off the ground really
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Yes, if you don't plan on using a box spring. Also if you use a spring mattress it may damage the springs over time due to repeated lifting.
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would say yes, toss the box spring (I didn't have one). I'm not sure if you can put it on top, but even if you did it would make your bed really, really high (the height of your mattress & box spring + about 15 inches)
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My frame did not come with a box spring. It doesn't have much support, just enough to hold the mattress. In short yes.
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It fits between the box spring and the mattress. So without a box spring? I don't know, it may make it a little tricky...
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No! I have a really thick memory foam mattress on mine and it fits perfectly. No box spring needed!
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If the mattress sits down inside any sort of bed frame (meaning that the top edge of the frame comes up above the bottom edge of the mattress on the bed rail side) you will need to make some modifications before it will work. I use the bed rail on a twin bed without a box spring, but I needed to raise the mattress up to the level of the top of the frame to make it work. I did this by placing 2"x10" boards on top of the frame, and setting the mattress down on top of the boards.
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I don't think that this would work in your situation. I tried to install this on a bed without a box spring- the mattress sat on the wooden slats. The rail part (which is what you see in the picture) is a round metal tube perhaps 3/8 inch diameter- so there would have to be a gap between the bed and the frame. The other issue I ran into was the round piece at the end of the strap to hold the rail flush against the bed (the straps run under the bed and are meant to wedge between the box spring and mattress). Since I was trying to install it with a mattress on a flat surface the circle was unable to lay flush against the bed and would slip free. Both issues meant that I was unable to secure the bed rail to our child's bed and I ended up having to return it. I went with the little bumpers that slip under the sheets and that has worked wonderful for us. Since you are using this on a trundle bed I would expect you to run into similar issues.