SAP admits inappropriate downloads in Oracle case
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SAP admitted on Tuesday its TomorrowNow unit had carried out some "inappropriate downloads" of documents belonging to Oracle but said SAP had not had access to that material.
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German business software vendor SAP AG issued a warning to customers not to provide confidential information on the phone to people claiming to be company support staff.
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newsmaker SAP's Henning Kagermann discusses his company's disclosure that its third-party support and maintenance subsidiary made illicit downloads of Oracle software.
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Oracle Corp. is warning customers to apply software patches it released in August, citing the availability of malicious code that can exploit unpatched vulnerabilities in its software.
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The Motley Fool - It appears that Larry Ellison took to the stage last week with more drama in mind than he had the right to perform. Oracle (Nasdaq: ORCL - News) really did produce a strong quarter, but the CEO may have been speaking with feet of clay when he came out strongly in regard to rival enterprise-software developer SAP (NYSE: S News). An SAP representative took the time to give me his company's side of the story, to which I've added my own Foolish touch.
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I2 Technologies accused SAP of patent infringement in a lawsuit filed Tuesday.
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(InfoWorld) - SAP AG has asked a U.S. court to order settlement talks in its legal battle with Oracle Corp., arguing that Oracle exaggerated its claims against the German software maker. Oracle said it opposed such talks and accused SAP of trying to "make this case go away." In court papers Tuesday, SAP picked several holes in Oracle's lawsuit,Â which was filed in March against SAP and its TomorrowNow Inc. subsidiary. The suit charged the companies with posing as Oracle customers and illegally downloading customer support materials from an Oracle Web site. Oracle's version of what happened is "dramatic but inaccurate," SAP argued in a joint filing submitted ahead of a case management conference scheduled for Sept. 4. It said Oracle ignored several factors in its complaint, including thatÂ TomorrowNow was entitled to access the Oracle Web site because it was doing work for Oracle customers, and that none of the material was downloaded by SAP itself. "This case, in short, is about whether TomorrowNow exceeded its customers' rights in downloading certain materials. That is not a matter of 'corporate theft on a grand scale,' as Oracle says in its complaint, but a matter of contract interpretation," SAP wrote. It asked the court to order the two sides into an "alternative dispute resolution" process, which would seek to settle the case outside the courtroom. It wants the process to begin in a few months, mediated by a magistrate judge, and for discovery -- the process of gathering evidence and interviewing witnesses -- to continue in the meantime. "As with most cases, prompt resolution of this case is in the best interests of all concerned," SAP said. Oracle was against the idea, however. It said SAP has given no evidence that it never received the documents downloaded by TomorrowNow. What's more, the downloads that Oracle has uncovered so far may be only the "tip of the iceberg." Settlement talks would be premature until Oracle has determined the extent of SAP's illegal conduct, Oracle said. SAP has "one obvious goal: to make this case go away without meaningful discovery into what it really did," the company said. The positions are laid out in documents filed ahead of a case management conference scheduled for Sept. 4. Oracle portrays the case as highly complex and requiring lengthy discovery, including depositions from dozens of customers. It is seeking a trial date in September 2009. SAP says the scope of the case should be narrower and that it is unnecessary to interview so many customers. It wants a trial date of February 2009 or earlier. The issues are likely to be discussed further at the case management conference on Sept. 4, and the court will issue an order with its decisions after that, SAP said. SAP posted a copy of the joint filing on its Web site. Â
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Germany&#39;s S- the world-leading business software group -- on Tuesday rejected accusations by its US rival Oracle that it had stolen software, but admitted &quot;some inappropriate downloads.&quot;
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A U.S. district court judge has ordered that&#160;Oracle&#39;s lawsuit against SAP and its TomorrowNow subsidiary&#160;be sent to mediation, according to a court document posted on www.tnlawsuit.com, a Web site SAP set up for the case.SAP spokesman Andy Kendzie declined to comment in much detail Thursday about Judge Martin J. Jenkins&#39; ruling, which occurred after a case management conference on Tuesday, according to the document.&quot;Our preference had always been that we explored mediation,&quot; Kendzie said.Oracle filed suit against SAP and TomorrowNow last year, charging that TomorrowNow employees illegally downloaded data from a secure Oracle support Web site, and used it to court Oracle&#39;s customers. The initial complaint alleges that &quot;corporate theft on a grand scale&quot; had occurred.SAP has said TomorrowNow was authorized to download materials from Oracle&#39;s Web site on behalf of TomorrowNow&#39;s customers, but also acknowledged &quot;some inappropriate downloads of fixes and support documents occurred at TomorrowNow.&quot; SAP has asserted that this information remained in TomorrowNow&#39;s systems and that SAP itself did not gain access to Oracle&#39;s intellectual property.TomorrowNow provides third-party support for Oracle&#39;s PeopleSoft, Siebel, and J.D. Edwards software products.Oracle could not immediately be reached for comment Thursday.
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San Francisco, December 7: Oracle Corp on Monday said it believes its business software applications, an area that has lagged the rest of the company, are gaining ground against market leader SAP AG of Germany.
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Oracle is warning customers to apply software patches it released in August because of the availability of malicious code that can exploit unpatched vulnerabilities in its software.
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Oracle's  search for a  smoking gun to prove the truth of its allegations that rival  SAP  stole its software is likely to be long and  arduous, making an out-of-court settlement attractive for both  parties.
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SAP AG , the world's largest maker of business-management software, said it made "inappropriate" downloads of Oracle Corp. documents, responding to a lawsuit that claims the German company stole files from the competitor.
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Software maker SAP AG  admitted a subsidiary had carried out "inappropriate downloads" of documents belonging to archrival Oracle Corp but said on Tuesday SAP itself had not had access to that material.
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Company had disputes with supplier of necessary software, iSoft.
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Oracle and SAP faced off in a U.S. District Court hearing Tuesday over Oracle's allegations that its archrival pilfered some of its software and support materials.
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Software maker SAP admitted a subsidiary had carried out "inappropriate downloads" of documents belonging to archrival Oracle but said on Tuesday SAP itself had not had access to that material.