united-states criminal-law criminal-procedure punishment eighth-amendment
Can I be subjected to physical punishment by the police in the US as long as it is outside criminal proceeding?
<p>In <a href="https://www.oyez.org/cases/1976/75-6527" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Ingraham v. Wright</a>, the US Federal Supreme Court ruled that it had &quot;limited the application of the Eighth Amendment’s <em>cruel and unusual</em> language to <strong>criminal</strong> punishment&quot;.</p>
<p>Can I be subjected to a &quot;cruel and unusual&quot; punishment by the police, as long as it is done outside of a criminal proceeding?</p>
<p>For example, suppose I jaywalk. A police officer catches me.</p>
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<li><p>Suppose the punishment is a result of a bargain. Suppose that me and the police officer agrees that the police officer will give me a slap in the hand, and in return the police officer will not press charges against me. Can we make out such a bargain?</p>
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<li><p>If yes to (1), suppose that after that I change my mind and sue the officer on Eight Amendment grounds. Can the officer defend himself/herself by saying that the punishment doesn't violate the Eight Amendment because this amendment only applies to &quot;<em>criminal</em> punishment&quot; (<em>Ingraham v. Wright</em>) and this was not a &quot;<em>criminal</em> punishment&quot;, because it was outside of a criminal proceeding? After all, charges were never pressed and so I was not convicted of any crime</p>
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<li><p>How does the answer to number (1) change if the punishment is imposed against my will?</p>
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<p>No. Police are not permitted to impose any punishment whatsoever. Their role in the American justice system is to prevent and investigate criminal offenses.</p>
<p>What you're describing is a punishment for a criminal offense, even though it is imposed outside the criminal justice system. The same principles that prevent an officer from punching a suspect in the face or demanding a cash payment to not write a ticket prohibit a police officer from imposing a punishment of his own design, with or without your consent.</p>

<p>If the government are not punishing you as part of a criminal offense, then under what guise are they subjecting you to physical punishment?  (Separating the &quot;police&quot; out of this, as it's really &quot;the government&quot; more broadly here.)</p>
<p>If they subject you to physical punishment <em>not</em> part of a criminal proceeding, and in a venue not otherwise covered by due process, then they are violating your civil rights - see the 14th Amendment:</p>
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<p>nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law</p>
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<p>In the cited case, this &quot;due process&quot; was <em>covered in Florida law</em> by explicitly prohibiting excessive use of force, and thus the victims could and should apply for protection under those statutes (and more generally, under the standards of tort law).  (I assume they did and did not receive a satisfactory outcome, but can't find the case trivially).</p>
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<p>I will note that I wonder if this case would have a different outcome now; note (from the Oyez summary):</p>
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<p>While acknowledging the general abandonment of corporal punishment as a means of punishing criminals, Justice Powell looked to the common law history of similar punishment in schools and discerned no trend towards its elimination. Rather, common law suggested that teachers could legally impose reasonable, non-excessive force on their students.</p>
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<p>That's certainly no longer the case, and so (politics aside) it's possible this specifically would have a different outcome.  Schools are somewhat of a special case, acting <em>in loco parentis</em>, which was generally the rationale behind the use of corporal punishment - parents also during that period of time typically used corporal punishment; even now, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment_of_minors_in_the_United_States#cite_note-Phoenix-7" rel="nofollow noreferrer">the <em>majority</em> of (U.S.) General Social Survey respondents believe spanking is sometimes appropriate</a>, though most likely the majority don't use it as a matter of course, and the majority of states explicitly prohibit it in schools.  So perhaps the &quot;common law&quot; rationale might not apply; but either way, it's likely a special case that schools are permitted to act in this way, and would not apply more broadly.</p>

<p>The 8th Amendment is much stronger in prohibiting types of punishment than in prohibiting disproportionate punishments. Corporal punishment such as a slap on the hand, is <em>per se</em> prohibited under the 8th Amendment as punishment for a criminal offense, whether or not the consent of the person upon whom it is imposed is obtained (subject to narrow exceptions like the death penalty not applicable here).</p>
<p>Also, a non-judicial bargain to accept a corporal punishment, or any punishment, would usually constitute a punishment imposed in violation of various 5th and 6th and 14th Amendment rights and would provide a basis for a civil rights lawsuit under § 1983 for violation of a clearly established constitutional right against the officer who did so.</p>
<p>It would also probably constitute a simple assault by the officer because no exception to the simple assault statute that prohibits a person from slapping another person would apply because no statute would authorize the officer to enter into or accept such a bargain.</p>
<p>It is a criminal matter because it is punishment for violation of a criminal or quasi-criminal statute prohibiting jay walking. An officer attempting to raise this defense would surely lose.</p>
<p>The officer's better defense, although not a tenable one in a world where the true facts and intent are known to be as set forth in the question, would be that the officer engaged in a reasonable use of force to apprehend the defendant and then exercised in unilateral discretion to not cite the person slapped.</p>
<p>Another defense that might hold up under these facts would be that the &quot;punishment&quot; was so <em>de minimis</em> that it does not justify any legal action against him and does not really amount to a &quot;punishment&quot; any more than a verbal warning, which is not considered to be a punishment, would.</p>

<p>In the first place, the police cannot legally impose any punishment: that is the prerogative of the judicial branch and the people.  They can decline to arrest, but any physical compensation could be considered bribery which would make both of you guilty of a much more serious crime than jaywalking.</p>
<p>So, to answer your first question, you cannot enter into such an agreement legally because the officer would be guilty of accepting a bribe and you would be guilty of paying a bribe.</p>
<p>Secondly, if you did enter into such an illegal agreement, in order to have 8th Amendment grounds, the officer would have to be acting per policy not simply as an individual actor. Since as an individual actor the officer doesn’t have any right to inflict punishment, any such “punishment”, would have to be considered either (a) bribery, (b) consensual behavior between adults, (c) assault.</p>
<p>How it got treated would depend upon the exact circumstances, but it wouldn’t be considered a violation of your rights under the 8th Amendment.</p>
<p>If it was official policy, then it would more likely fall afoul of the 5th.</p>
