united-states immigration
When is the effective date for travel ban?
<p>In the <a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-proclamation-enhancing-vetting-capabilities-processes-detecting-attempted-entry-united-states-terrorists-public-safety-threats/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">White House</a> travel ban announcement Under the Section 7 part (a) I can see that:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>The restrictions and limitations established in section 2 of this
  proclamation are effective at 3:30 p.m. eastern daylight time on
  September 24, 2017, for foreign nationals who: (i) were subject to
  entry restrictions under section 2 of Executive Order 13780, or would
  have been subject to the restrictions but for section 3 of that
  Executive Order, and [...]</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Does that mean that the effective date of travel ban would be September 24, 2017?</p>

<p>I'm asking because I noticed under Section 3 of the same document:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>... this proclamation shall apply only to foreign nationals of the designated countries who:</p>
  
  <p>(i) are outside the United States on the applicable effective date
  under section 7 of this proclamation;</p>
  
  <p>(ii) do not have a valid visa on the applicable effective date under
  section 7 of this proclamation; and ...</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Many people potentially affected by the ban where present in the states this summer so I'm hoping to understand better what the effective date of the ban is.</p>

<p>The proclamation says that the restrictions "are effective at 3:30 p.m. eastern daylight time on September 24, 2017" for persons who both "lack a credible claim of a bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States" and "were subject to entry restrictions under section 2 of Executive Order 13780, or would have been subject to the restrictions but for section 3 of that Executive Order". North Koreans and Iraqis (etc) with bona fide relationships were not covered under section 2 of the earlier order, and a different effective date exists for them under Sec 3(b): </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>The restrictions and limitations established in section 2 of this
  proclamation are effective at 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on
  October 18, 2017, for all other persons subject to this proclamation</p>
</blockquote>

<p>In other words, there are two different dates, one for those covered by the older order, and a later date for those added to the excluded list. For instance, if an Iraqi with a bona fide relationship was outside the US on Oct. 18 2017, also did not have a valid visa on that date, and didn't have a cancelled visa from the Jan. 27 event, then that person would be subject to the restriction. For an Iraqi without a bona fide relationship, the relevant date is Sept. 24.</p>
