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<hamitron> I didn't do it, and wish I had
<monsterwizard> but are you making a living?
<dwatkins> likewise, I dropped out before going to work for Siemens in Munich
<monsterwizard> can you provide food for yourself?
 * dwatkins grins
<monsterwizard> While buying the odd electronic device and book?
<davmor2> gord: if it's a any key press chage it to tab you'll soon find out :)
<dwatkins> monsterwizard: despite what you may have been told, having a degree is not essential in order to get a job you enjoy and that pays well
<dwatkins> It's just a very good idea to start off with.
<monsterwizard> dwatkins will that be the case in the future as these qualifications become more important.
<monsterwizard> ?
<dwatkins> monsterwizard: I can't say, but it depends who you're being compared to
<oimon> degree isn't esssential but can involve a bit of luck getting started in your career
<dwatkins> Imagine you're in an interview against your closest friends at uni, monsterwizard
<oimon> i'm sure we have this convo every few weeks. try to chill :D
<monsterwizard> haha yeah I must
<dwatkins> if you have the edge, more experience etc. you're more likely to get the job
<monsterwizard> and just one more question.
<monsterwizard> I feel if I become a sys admin I would of failed
<monsterwizard> it's not that bad of a job, right?
<dwatkins> That's quite a generalisation.
<smittix> popey: How do you manage your iPhone within Linux?
<hamitron> getting any job you enjoy, is not really failure
<smittix> Or don't you?
<dwatkins> I'd love to be the sysadmin of an interesting place with fun people, monsterwizard, but I'd hate to be a sysadmin for a small company that's going nowhere
<smittix> monsterwizard: I started as a sysadmin
 * dwatkins also started as a sysadmin, in a sense
<monsterwizard> ahh ok.
<smittix> we all have to start somewhere.
<popey> smittix: define 'manage' ?
<smittix> popey: Do you add content via linux?
<popey> no
<smittix> ahh
<popey> i pull photos off it with shotwell
<oimon> sysadmin with linux is fun. sysadmin 