is it covered by the "strictly necessary" exception?
<MartijnVdS> Like "Google Analytics"?
<MartijnVdS> As far as I've heard.. no
<ali1234> nah. more like a site that just says "you last visited on ..." and nothing else at all
<ali1234> whendidilastvisitthiswebsite.com
<Paladine> MartijnVdS, there is no law which requires web sites to track visitors
<Paladine> the Data Retention Directive only applies to telecommunications companies, not content providers
<Paladine> so I am not sure why you think it does
<MartijnVdS> Paladine: Dutch Public Broadcasting is required to keep stats on its visitors
<Paladine> and where did you see that?
<Paladine> because I know the dutch law very well and it is explicitly written into the dutch transposition of the data retention directive that content providers are NOT required to retain data
<MartijnVdS> Paladine: it's part of the charter of "Dutch Public Broadcasting" (NPO) to report on its performance.
<MartijnVdS> Paladine: i.e. how many people it's reaching, related demographic data
<Paladine> Charter != Law
<Paladine> a Charter doesnt override law either
<Paladine> so if their charter is incompatible with law they need to chaneg their charter
<MartijnVdS> Paladine: except they won't get subsidies if they can't prove they're doing their work
<ali1234> yeah, instead of having tracking cookies, they could just shut down instead
<MartijnVdS> Paladine: and then we wouldn't have public broadcasting anymore
<ali1234> they would be within the law
<Paladine> you can argue the point as much as you like, their charter doesn't override law, same as BBC's charter doesnt
<Paladine> if their charter is incompatible with law they need to change it
<penguin42> hmm impressive change in weather over night
<ali1234> if the law is incompatible with reality they need to change it
<Paladine> I will have a chat with Jacob Kohnstamm about it
<MartijnVdS> Paladine: they can't change their own charter
<brobostigon> penguin42: that was yesterday, sun and gradual daytime increase in temperature.
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