exchange, not an intimate family-like relationship. Being open to
the market is not 'treason'.

\- Tech stacks tend to be years behind San Francisco, whether is languages,
frameworks, ops practices...

\- Functional programming opportunities extremely scarce. Elixir is gaining
traction here though.

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charlesdm
Have you considered working remotely for a US company? I know a guy making €7
or 8,000 per month, after tax, living in Paris. Best of both worlds: amazing
quality of living, cheap cost of living + healthcare, lots of spending (or
investing) money! Seems to be working well for him.

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jules
Is the cost of living in Paris less than a normal US city?

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fchollet
Paris is much less expensive than the bay area, but more expensive than the
average US city. In fact, it's barely less expensive than NYC, one of the most
expensive US cities.

Also, if you are working remotely you cannot command a bay area salary.

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gorkemyurt
So you are saying NYC is much less expensive than Bay Area?

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fchollet
Yes. Specifically, rents are much higher in SF/SV than in NYC. SF has even
higher rent than Manhattan. Most of NYC (not Manhattan or Williamsburg) can be
quite reasonable.

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feklar
Does SF gave rent brokers you have to go through? Manhattan you have to pay
first/last rent to a broker plus deposit you need around 8-$12k to sign any
lease up front

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JBReefer
Brokers fee is one month, not two, and the outer boroughs are much cheaper.

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dlandis
Broker's fees of 15% or even 20% seemed to be fairly common last time I was
looking in Manhattan several years ago. It's definitely not pegged at one
month anymore nowadays even in Brooklyn.

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altoz
You have two groups:

1\. 5 million unemployed people 2\. very highly sought after workers

The employers complaining about people in group 2 being scarce are merely not
paying enough. The workers complaining in group 1 need more skills that the
market wants. They're at different ends of the spectrum.

Other than that they live in the same country, they really don'