orms.

They want software devs on the market already proefficient in
proprietary/tricky technologies, and no one understand why jobless persons
with so much time cannot buy these 10K€ tools and use their worthless time in
self formation.

And salary expectation are low : a coder MUST not be paid more than any
manager. Even the manager responsible for the cleaning team of 500m² office
with a headcount of 2.

They just have irrealistic expectations. That's all folks.

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mikerichards
So Spain isn't Germany, but I'm curious why even in the midwest (St. Louis no
less), senior developers easily command $120k+.

But I guess this also goes to the point why SV is only playing "normal" senior
developers $150k/yr?

Unless you're really digging the Bay Area lifestyle (or "I'll get my chance in
the next cool startup), why even bother.

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internaut
Europe in general, with some rare exceptions, does not value the kinds of
skills that are selected for in SV.

The culture is bad. The incentives are all wrong. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

The typical business person in Europe considers him or herself top of the
pecking order. This only looks to be true relatively because they hire less
capable workers. These are the exact kind of people who imagine hiring twice
as many developers gets the job accomplished faster i.e. simpletons.

The typical software engineer is at least one standard deviation above them.
Just not in one specific area. In everything. I have friends who did part-time
degrees in literature or language studies while they were also studying for
computer science at some of the most elite european universities. Most geeks
are systems thinkers and have no trouble in grokking areas outside of their
main thing. Many of us refuse to be put into a box.

Having interests in exclusively one thing is a pretty fair indicator of not
being very adaptive, I'd say it's almost defintional. That is the kind of
person they want to hire. You can hire them, but they won't be very good.

Then you get these idiots who think they