untu 10.10 as i think either ffmpeg or unity is messing up the video out put in the clip monitor in kdenlive on 11.10.....
<AlanBell> hmm, not sure then. I use openshot to edit stuff and it handles ogv fine and can export in various formats
<Neoti> humm i will have to try that out ...
<Neoti> seems similar to kdenlive
<Neoti> my requirments for what i do are just ability to add titles, fade in and out, cut a section of video out and delete that section and out put in 1280x720 600k 15FPS mp4 for youtube etc... if it can do that and is easy to use gr8
<gordonjcp> Neoti: AVI is a file format, not an encoding
<gordonjcp> Neoti: you can make .avi files that just cannot sanely be edited
<Neoti> well over the last week i have had more luck with avi then ogv.
<gordonjcp> Neoti: .avi and .ogv makes very little difference
<gordonjcp> the codec in use does
<popey> AlanBell: Google talk isnt USA only
<Neoti> so based on the above unity/ubuntu 11.10 uses a differant or updated codec which is broken! to the codecs used on ubuntu 10.10 ?
<jacobw> no
<jacobw> its nothing to do with ubuntu
<AlanBell> applications like openshot benefit from an extra year of development Neoti
<popey> Neoti: read all of the above, and cant actually see what the issue is
<shauno> a bit slow, but I'm using jabberd14 to provide an xmpp server  (and it sounds like you're confusing google chat with google voice - the later is the telephony 'thing', and is US-only.  talk is just IM/xmpp, and is global)
<popey> nothing specific anyway
<AlanBell> shauno: yeah, I am no doubt confused
<AlanBell> I only looked at XMPP 4 years or so ago when looking at Sametime and SIP stuff
<AlanBell> any instructions on trying google talk, all I see on http://www.google.com/talk/ is a browser plugin and an XP client
<shauno> I don't use their service; I run my own jabber server, and can talk to people who are using their service, because xmpp 'federates'
<AlanBell> ok
<popey> AlanBell: which client?
<shauno> I believe the capabilty is coming to Live (nee msn) soon too.  and a